Unlocking Your Inner Billionaire: Financial Freedom, Gratitude And Faith

Today, I sit down with Debbie Dobbins, an entrepreneur and author of "Your Inner Billionaire"— to uncover the real secrets behind abundance and prosperity. Ms. Dobbins shares her journey from building million-dollar businesses to losing it all during a battle with cancer, only to rebuild from the ground up using spiritual and scientific principles. She opens up about how prayer, energy work, and redefining self-worth allowed her to not only heal her body but restore her finances and purpose.

We explore the deep connection between worthiness and wealth, why many people subconsciously repel success, and how Gen Z’s comparison culture has led to disconnection and delay. Ms. Dobbins challenges the belief that hustle equals success and offers an alternative — alignment. We talk about social media as “refined sugar” for the brain, the dangers of micromanaging God’s timing, and how authentic joy can only come from within. We cover advice on mindset, energy, and spiritual alignment for anyone tired of chasing someone else’s version of success.

Ms. Dobbins also unpacks her new book and coaching work, including the Inner Billionaire Circle mastermind and her retreats in Playa del Carmen. She offers real talk about building wealth from any place — even food stamps — and reminds us that every action, thought, and feeling is an investment in our future. Whether you’re struggling with finances, toxic comparison, or limiting beliefs, this conversation is a blueprint for reclaiming your inner billionaire — and creating a life that aligns with your authentic self.

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Transcript

 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Couple of Nukes. As always, I'm your host, Mr. Whiskey. And if I were to ask all of y'all who here would like to unleash their inner billionaire, I, I like to think that no one here would say, not me, Mr. Whiskey. I'm, I'm good. Um, that's not to say that money is everything and that money is happiness, but if you can make more money and you can have that money be in alignment with you and who you are.

And in a balanced way with your life, wouldn't you want that? But today I am here with an expert in that, Ms. Debbie Dobbins. Great to have you here. And I'm definitely ready to become a billionaire. I would settle for millionaire. But hey, if you can take me to billionaire, I'll, I'll take what I can get. So, Ms.

Dobbins, please tell us a little bit about yourself and how you became the expert billionaire that you are. Well, thank you, and I'm so excited to be on this podcast and I, I shared with you off, um, camera that I feel like I'm old enough to be your, not your grandmother, your great-grandmother, because I've been on the planet for a really long time and I found myself about, oh gosh, it's been eight years ago.

I've, I've built millions, I've built million dollar businesses, and I've been very successful and I've taught prosperity. About eight years ago, uh, I always say, if you wanna make God laugh, get a plan. So my plan was not to be diagnosed when the, um, gastroenterologist came and stuck his finger up my bum, and he came this close to my face and said, yep, it's rectal cancer.

That will change your whole life in an instant. And what I also found was it's very expensive having cancer. And so all of this money that I had created, all of a sudden was disappearing rapidly before my eyes. I was broke. I didn't have any money, and because I'd been teaching abundance for so long, I really thought I needed to have a different way that I was looking at it.

And it was in, in hindsight, it was one of the best times of my life. I got good with God. I got good with myself. I got good with all of my knowingness that I am not in charge. That this is a dynamic, this wealth, this inner billionaire, everybody has one and it's just a matter of revealing it. And the only people that keep us from it is ourselves because the Bible says.

There's a verse in there that, and I'm gonna, um, I'm gonna macerate it probably, but it's like a press down, raining down into your lap, overflowing. That's what God promises. That's what the world and the universe promise us. So when we are in lack, and I'm sitting there completely broken on food stamps, I'm thinking.

Hmm. There has to be a different way. And this book, uh, I rebuilt my millions. I rebuilt my business, but more importantly, I rebuilt the energy that I was creating with, which came from not my mindset, but my body and my feelings. Because knowing what we can do and believing that the Bible says, you are as you believe.

And I was like, yes, that's true. So I believe that I am prosperous. And now I, uh, I guess it was last year before the, before the end of the year. I, this book just flowed out of me because it truly is an activation of that inner billionaire. It is a guidebook for anybody that wants to reveal their inner billionaire because it's already inside of us.

We can have as much or as little as we believe, and that we actually then proceed to accept and receive. Wow. And then, so are you now cancer free? And that was all taken care of. Yeah. Yep. That's, that's one of the things, you know, I, I healed myself with prayer really. I mean, I, I was, uh, at that point in time, I thought it was very interesting.

I wasn't a Facebook person at all, but I decided that that was the best place that I could ask for prayer. So I went on and asked for prayer, and I know that that was the beginning of allowing. This opportunity, but I also, I believe in quantum physics, science, and, um, spirituality. And they're this the same, um, coin, just different sides.

So I used all of that knowledge to begin to understand what I was doing, to keep myself from having the things that I said I desired. And it's not about pushing and it's not about struggling, and it's not about working harder. It's about just knowing that you are deserving of this good. And I would say that the most common comment that I get from anybody, male or female, is once they dive down into their own experiences, they don't feel like they're worthy.

And so I think it's so fascinating that we live on a planet where the majority of the humans. Don't feel like they're worthy. And until we begin to feel that worthiness within ourselves, we will constantly repel, um, financial wealth, but we'll also repel health, uh, wealth, we'll re repel, uh, relational relationship wealth.

We will repel those things which we don't feel that we're worthy of. And so just even speaking to people that are in the, um, gen Zs right now. I believe that they have woken up in a different way to really recognize that they are more powerful. But yet there's still all of this dynamic that comes from social media that says you've gotta compare yourself with an influencer.

Mm-hmm. Or somebody that says, this is what you got, you have to do to be successful, or This is what you have to do to be okay. And the fact of the matter is, is the only thing any of us needs to do to be okay and be worthy. Be authentic, be our authentic selves. Once we get that key, the world is, there's no, there's no stopping us.

Yeah. I think you mentioned something important there, which was the comparison with social media limiting beliefs, and I mean, I'm guilty of it as well, especially I think for. Me at my age, where I'm at is the comparison of timelines and wanting to be at where other people are at who have spent 10, 20, 30 years achieving that.

And I wanna compress it down to, hey, I wanna be there now. I wanna be there next year. And I know from personal experiences, the amount of pressure I put on myself to try and catch up with these people who took 40 years to do what they do. Uh, it can be very diff very easy to fall into that and very difficult to get outta that.

Yeah. And it's so remarkable that we have become this society that, um, there's a, a woman, her name's Marie Forleo. She's got a podcast and she calls a lot of different things, um, Marie tv, but she uses this term that I love so much, even though I don't do sch logger. She calls it Compare sch logger. We're drinking, compare sch logger all the time, and that is how we start out as humans, little babies.

We have to compare and contrast so that we can figure out what next steps to take, whether it be walking or riding a bike or learning in school. But then we take it to that nth degree, and as you said. We perceive that somebody else's outsides is comparing to our insides when the reality is, is our insides are what gonna go, what gonna create our outsides?

And so if we just stay the course, we can't make it go any faster. We have capabilities, but we all, we have unlimited capabilities, but we have a limited capacity. Every day we all get the same 24 hours, what are we gonna do with it? And I just finished writing another book on, um, time bending because we've lost this idea.

That we have, the activities that we do to create what we say we want are so much more powerful if we do it from an internal process. Instead of just doing, doing, doing, doing, going, going, going, going, pushing, pushing, pushing, which is a very masculine concept where we've all been operating in for 2000 years.

But then you add all of this internet, social media, everything, where as you said, you see people doing things. And you want whatever you think or observe that they have, which that's the fascinating part. I, I have a friend that's a social media strategist and I've watched her for a long time. I really admire her.

And I think sometimes, gosh, I wanna be like, I don't wanna wanna be like Rachel, I don't wanna be like anybody, but I. I like what I see she's created. But see, I don't know and neither does anybody know else because she's got, um, bipolar and a whole lot of other things. I don't know all the underpinnings of what her life really is about.

We only see the outsides. I. And so that's why sometimes watching influencers is a very detrimental thing to our own health. Yeah. And, and, um, mental health, because we're not looking at who we are inside. If we begin to reflect on who we are inside and we know that we are authentic and we're coming from our heart space and we're, we're sharing love and we are supporting and serving the planet, there's nothing really that we can do wrong because.

As I say, the universe will conspire to create whatever it is that we want. And sometimes when we say I want it in this amount of time, I call that micromanaging God or micromanaging the universe because the fact of the matter is, is we don't know all the stuff that's possible, and it could be in a laser minute or a laser instant.

But when we're so focused on creating and saying, this is how it has to happen, we don't allow the magic, the miracles to show up. So that's when I teach from this inner billionaire is just get the feeling that you want. I. You believe you would have creating whatever you think it is that you say that other person has.

How would I feel if I thought I had that? And then those feelings actually are that electromagnetic energy that pushes out into the, the cosmos that brings back inform that visual 3D world that we see. And it says, wow, that's exactly what I wanted. And I would've never dreamt that I could have achieved it that way because when we leave it open.

Then it just is, it's miraculous. It's magic. I totally agree. A lot of, uh, you know, preachers have heard say is like, get out of God's way. Like you, they say, you know, God can do anything, but we restrict him, like you said, we're by putting a timeline on it or a certain way. Mm-hmm. We restrict it. And so then that limits, you know, your, your income or your blessings.

And I think that. What you talked about with mirroring our internal to someone else's external knowing, as we call it, social media is are the highlights, you know? Yeah. There, now there are some great people who are vulnerable on social media and, and share their lows, but for the most part, a lot of those, mm-hmm.

Influencer type figures or other people, you know, it's the highlights. And like you said, you don't see everything that went behind it, good or bad. And I say that because. Uh, when I was working blue collar industry, and it was either gun style, born United, uh, they're both military clothing brands. They had made a hoodie that I had that says, dirty hands, clean money.

And, and the statement was, you know, we worked hard for this money and we had a mm-hmm. You know, it sucked dirty hands, you know, working on trolley cars and, and, and plumbing and sewer and that kind of stuff, but better than having clean hands and dirty money, you know, through Right. Maybe you did immoral things or illegal things.

And I think that's important too, is looking at some of these people got their money through malicious means, through screwing over other people, through scamming, through, uh, not a lot of influencers are, are not honest, and I'm not saying all of them, but some of them are scammers. Some of them perpetuate themselves online by getting people hooked in and then people invest money and they get maybe something out of it, maybe not.

And I think also when we turn to these people, we kind of let them influence us to the point of. I'll, I'll give a great example. Um, I don't like this gentleman, and I don't follow him, but I know that there are plenty of young men who do like Andrew Tate, and if you don't know who he is, um, influencer, and he always, one of his famous quotes is, um, about Bugattis.

You know, like what color is your Bugatti? And like, so a lot of young men are like, oh, I need a Bugatti, you know, rather than mm-hmm if I had the money, this is the car I would want. They're like, well, the Bugatti is, is a statement. It's a a piece. Same thing with right. I, I feel like designer brands, you know, people are like, oh, I need Gucci, or I need Louis Vuitton.

Instead of what would make me happy. I feel like we chase after, right? What would make us look the coolest in other people's eyes, right? Rather than what would make us happiest. Yeah. And that, that's really the difference between an inner billionaire, which is a feeling, which is an essence, which is a frequency, it's a vibration.

As oppo. I, I sound like, um, Michael Bernard Beckwith, when I say vibration, he's a, he's a, he is a preacher. Um, but the fact is, is that when we begin to acknowledge that, uh, because at the end of the day, I've, I've talked to so many people over the years. And taught so many and coached so many that when you drill it down, what does anybody ever want?

What do they think? The Bugatti or the house or the traveling or the billion dollars or whatever, what do you think that would create for you? What is that feeling that you want? And without exception, it's freedom. And the freedom to do what you want when you want. That's what people want. They, they can say they want a Bugatti, but that's.

That's just, like you said, it's an outward trapping that they have not found their authentic self that is so happy with who they are, that they don't need a Gucci belt or a Bugatti, or you know, a designer or anything. I won't advertise anybody's clothes because I think that's like nobody's paying me to advertise for them.

But the fact is, is that we don't recognize. And sometimes it comes with agent, sometimes it doesn't because we get these money stories in our head about how we perceive wealth and abundance from a 3D world. But if we begin to really recognize our own internal value and worth, it doesn't matter whether we're doing.

Um, blue collar work, we're doing dirty work. We're, you know, we're, um, sweeping the ships in a, in a location or we're white collar people. And you know what's interesting? Even that, that story that you're telling, um, the world is shifting. So one of my favorite things to is ai. So I think if I'm speaking to anybody on this podcast besides about being your inner billionaire, is that we can start to free up more time because freedom is time.

Time is freedom. Mm-hmm. And if you wanna begin to find your space in the world and create more, we need more time. We need more freedom. AI is allowing us to do that. But they say that the, the, they people are predicting that at least 25%, maybe more of especially entry level white collar jobs are disappearing because of ai.

Well, what does that leave? That leaves trades. That leaves people that work with their hands, that leaves people that create things with their hands. It also, um. It allows us people like you and me that are content creators that are out there giving the world information and we can create faster and easier through these, um, platforms.

It's really amazing how the world is. We are in the most dynamic time of the world, but yet all of the basic fundamental universal laws, which are circulation, that's what money is. If you circulate it. And you give it and you receive, you give it and you receive. You're gonna get, always get it. If you, if you give and then you hang on like this and you can't receive anymore, that's a problem.

But also, if you hang on and you never give, that's a problem. You have to circulate. That's a law of abundance. But that works with money and it works with love, and it works with relationships, and it works with jobs. So it's really just changing this dynamic that these belief systems that we've created through these stories of, I'm gonna be bad and bitching if I have a bt, which most people you know aren't gonna get a bt, right?

The people that are watching that, that are enamored by that influencer, I. They're never gonna get a bacca number one, because they have a lack poverty mentality that's not going to allow them to open up to receive, and they're not giving and they're not circulating. So it's really important for people to understand that, um, our environment, not only where we live, where we work, what we eat, and how we move in the world, but that, uh, environment that we create for ourselves with.

Social media, I don't, you know, Substack or you know, wherever. There's like so many platforms, but we're consuming, which is an environment which just like eating. So are we, are we consuming through our visual and our social media and our internet experience? Basically refined sugar. Or are we getting substance?

So for me, when I looked at what, you know, your bio and this, this great platform that you have, I could feel literally the substance, the meat and potatoes of that. Why? Why do I say that? Because I could see your authenticity. Even though you're striving to become and do and whatever, but I also, I have this really cool way of seeing energy and it's just so you know this, Mr.

Whiskey, I know this about you. When you run into a person or you experience something, somebody with that energy, with that giving, with that loving, with that authentic energy, you know it immediately. And if you don't experience that, you're either going to leave or you're gonna stay there as long as you have to and then leave.

But we all have that ability to, to be discerning about the influencers, if that's what we're gonna call them. Of who we're allowing to take, uh, you know, rent space on our heads for free, because that's what we're doing. So I think that's the biggest message about revealing our inner billionaire, is that we begin to consume what we know is going to support us.

It's gonna uplift us, it's going to raise us. That's gonna allow us to be those authentic selves that we came into this world to be. Because every single one of us. Is a divine expression of the one, and we all fit the big puzzle. Like if one of us is missing, a piece is missing, right? So it's so important for us to acknowledge that of our own worthiness.

I think it's interesting, it's kind of like this comparison of joy versus, you know, the happiness from pride, right? Because we look at, again, when you're trying to chase after those external things to make other people say, oh, you know, Mr. Whiskey's a cool, really cool guy 'cause he got that type of car.

Well, am I truly happy with it or am I taking pride in the fact that other people are enjoying it? So then I feel some kind of happiness, right? But again. Is that what you really want? And I think it kind of goes into, you talked about focusing on, like, for example, just a specific type of car I remember in, you know, relation to restrictions and, and blocking blessings and all that.

My youngest sister was offered a car for free, uh, when she was of driving age for my father. And, and she said, no, I don't want that kind of car. And, you know. That to me right there, that's a prime example of mm-hmm. You know, a free car and maybe it's not a super cool car, it was relatively new, a little mileage.

But you know, the idea of I only want this type of car, or I don't want a car that, you know, looks like that or that color, but it's free. Right? So I think that's a time where. You're blocking, you're clearly blocking a blessing, right? You can always upgrade to a different car later in life. But for the time being a free car, I would never turn down a free car.

I wish someone a free car. I don't care what it looks like. Free cars are expensive. They're like $50,000, like, you know? So I think that's important. You know, pride, pride coming before the fall, right? Yeah. And then, yeah. Also, I love you brought up what we're consuming and, uh, just like, you know, our digestive tract that has a gut microbiome, our brain has its own biome that we have to support healthily, not just physically, but mentally with what we consume and emotionally.

And I love that you brought up re refined sugar because in a previous episode with Logan effort on, um. Men's pornographic addiction. He brought up the analogy of pornographic content and a lot of what you see on social media with photoshopped images, with body surgery, all that stuff, he describes it as refined sugar.

He goes, listen. Mm-hmm. Take any fruit that naturally occurs on, on the earth. It's delicious. It's sweet, right? Strawberries, watermelon, whatever. It's for you. He goes. Naturally beautiful, but it could never, ever compare to the sweetness of M and MSS of a Hershey's chocolate bar of this manmade artificial sugar that is so, mm-hmm.

Constructed to be so sweet, to be addictive, you know? And I think as soon as you said refined sugar, I thought of that, how a lot of people mm-hmm. The prosperity they're putting forward is refined sugar. And what you find naturally, what is actually in line with you by comparison, will not seem as sweet, even though it is.

A sweet and beautiful, delicious thing, you know? So I think that's so important to know what's artificial and, and what's not, and mm-hmm. Yeah. I know me personally, like I, I try not to worry because I think it's also like when you worry and stress about losing and, and all you think, like you said, is I'm losing money or I'm, I'm gonna be low on money, or you stress, you, you know, you create such a negative energy.

Same thing with your, you know, your self talk. I've had so many. Experts on my show from people who majored in psychology to people who have just worked with people through traumas and hardships, through addiction counseling. And they always talk about the importance of self-talk. And I always talk about how positivity is such a slower buildup.

Negativity is a fast momentum. You start thinking bad, your day can be ruined like that. You know, if you're having a bad day, a a cheerful song takes a lot more to get you happy than if you're having a good day and a bad song brings you down, you know, and those bad thoughts, they build on each other. They feed each other, whereas positive thoughts, they don't really feed one another.

You know? So it's so difficult, and this applies to your perspectives on finances, just as much as if we're putting so much energy on narrow plasticity and priming the brain and all that with self-talk. It's the same way with finances. Yeah. And it, it really is so critical to look at how much I, I, you know, I love this topic we're getting on with the refined sugar, because we do that, that's our consumption of a lot of social media.

When we doom scroll, that's just like sugar. It's so high glycemic. It just goes in, it goes out, it goes in, it goes out and mm-hmm. You know, you can get on there and you find the thing you wanna be upset about, and then you spend, you know, going down that rabbit hole, but. When you've talked about these experts about addiction, I mean, we get, our bodies are addicted to the chemicals of the feelings that we keep projecting over and over and over.

I love Joe Dispenza. That's where I got that concept from the beginning. 'cause it makes so much sense that we have a feeling. And then our body produces the chemicals around that. And then we maintain that feeling from the experience that we had. And then we live that story and our body goes out and it, it's addicted to feeling that chemical reaction of that feeling.

So if we were depressed or we were unhappy, or you know, we were in lack or we were in poverty, we just keep perpetuating it. So first thing we have to do is change our thoughts, as you said, the neuroplasticity, but it's also changing our feelings. We can actually change how we feel when you're using the joy and the happiness example, that joy is an inside job.

We don't have to wait for something to happen for us to experience joy. Mm-hmm. So I wrote two chapters in the book. I. On gratitude because the easiest way to get into joy is to be grateful. And I'm not talking about the 10, oh, I'm grateful for this. I'm grateful for that. I'm talking about that gratitude and it's scientific in one chapter, and it's spiritual in the next.

That gratitude that comes up from your toenails when you wake up in the morning and you think, oh my gosh, I have the whole day in front of me. What are we and me, meaning me and God gonna make today? What are we gonna create today? Take me by the hand, show me what I'm supposed to do to serve everybody in the way that authentically is me.

And then a little light will come through the window of sunlight because the sun's coming up and just go, this is gorgeous. This is beautiful. Much like when you went to Japan and you were just experiencing something that was so magical and so beautiful, you can't help but be grateful. But we can be grateful for.

Everything. You could be grateful just by the fact that you woke up that morning and because we live in this beautiful country, I think people just take so much for granted. For sure. And when we think things for granted, we are not in appreciation. We're just in more. I want more. And when we begin to appreciate where we are, bloom where you are planted and appreciate what you have right now.

That's when more shows up. Because you're sending out this vibratory energy that says, I'm willing to receive more because I'm so grateful for what I have. Instead of, I want, I don't have, I can't have, I don't have enough. I'm not worthy. All of that kind of mental chatter is a very low vibrational energy.

What will give us exactly what we're feeling in form. Right, and I think that's why it's so important to wake up and say, I'm highly blessed in favored even. Mm-hmm. If. You know, and here's the thing. So many people, if you're in a bad financial situation, which I've almost been homeless before, you know, I've, I've been in terrible situations.

I'm only here because a Canadian preacher lent me the money to get through some hard times. And, and here's what I'll say about that, even when you're in that bad financial spot. What good is reflecting negatively on it every day, all day and letting it ruin everything else. If you're in that, hey, maybe you can't make any more money right now, but you can still live life to the full extent that you can and be appreciative of it.

You know, because like you said, if. If you just let it ruin your every day, then it has so much more power over your life. Mm-hmm. You know, it's not about the money controlling you. It's about, all right, I have this much money. What can I do to be productive? What can I do to be happy with that? I think that's so important of you having the control, you being in the power, but so many people let their finances influence them in negative ways.

Mm-hmm. Right. So, um, two things. One that you were talking about, uh, everything's in your favor. So I have this, this great little meditation that I created. It's seven minutes, but it is entitled, everything is Working in My Favor. And it's just a great way to start your day by implanting that idea because if we start walking around, as you said, if we start the day off, everything is working in my favor and then Right, the first thing you do is you step on the kids' Legos.

The second thing is you do is you go out and there's a flat tire on the car. The next thing, once you get the Flat Tire and Auto Club comes and you're on the freeway and there's just so much traffic 'cause there's a big accident. It's hard for some people to say everything is working in my favor, but if that's the expectation, right?

So by the time you get to wherever it is that you're going, the person that would've, you know, you would've never met 'cause they came late. You run into and they give you either a new job opportunity or a business opportunity or anything. It's so magical how that works. If we just start out with that idea in mind, everything is working in my favor.

When I was, um, flat broke on food stamps because I couldn't work, um, I could do a few things. I could get on the computer for a few hours and I didn't even realize and remember this until I was finishing this book on investing this weekend, and I literally was taking surveys online. It could take up to 20 minutes, 20 minutes and make a dollar, but I did that.

I was making a dollar here and $5 there, and at one point I could get out of the house and I went and did secret shopper, um, reviews for companies and maybe I made 20 bucks. For somebody that's had a lot of money that's, that could have seemed like, wow, do I really have to do this? But what I remember now is that I was investing in my own knowingness that I was gonna build it again, that I was gonna create it because I've already been there, done that.

But at the same time, when we get to a certain level, then we don't wanna go backwards. Well, sometimes. You know you, like I said, you wanna make God laugh, get a plan. Sometimes the plan isn't what your plan is. Right. And I remember that so clearly as I was writing this weekend that that did not seem. Like a struggle to me.

But what it also did was it just allowed me to remember that I am investing in myself, that I am creating worth, that I am compounding this interest of putting into these things. And of course, it didn't last forever and it turned out really great. I ended up taking my real estate exams for Texas in California, and immediately went to work when I was released from the hospital.

But. I just thought that was so beautiful to remember that, that it's not how much you're making at any given time. It's the energy that you're putting into it. It's the faith in yourself. It's the faith in the, your God, in your universe that that's going to be returned to you tenfold. And that's really what this is all about, is that when you believe and trust the sky is the limit.

Yeah, I think humility is so important. And then so many people get wrapped up in the, right now, right now, or their pride, you know, like this is below me. Uh, you know, and I'll, I'll give an example. So my, my other job outside of running KA of nukes is that I am the manager for an ice cream company. I. And so many people there don't know about what I do as Mr.

Whiskey, that I speak at conferences, that I write, books, all this stuff. All they see is they, they, they scoff at me. They say, you were a nuclear operator and now you run an ice cream shop. What a, what a downgrade, what a let down. Mm-hmm. The reason I'm there is I'm investing money into couple nukes to spread more episodes, to do more with suicide prevention, addiction recovery, to host events, to host conferences, to create meetups.

And, you know, they, they don't see that and they don't know that right. And it, I understand as a, as a young man, it hurts my pride sometimes people say, huh, look at you. You're nothing now. And, and they don't know. But you know, you have to know, like you said, your worth and what you're investing in and, and the future.

You have to have that long-term vision. So many people compromise what could have been because they wanted more money now or to look a certain way now, and then they got rid of what could have been better, you know? Mm-hmm. I think so many people settle. You know, people settle for less than what they're worth or, or what they think they're worth rather than mm-hmm.

What they are, like you said, with all the negative self-talk, and I, I think it's so important to invest into the future. There's a lot of small things I do every day that take up a lot of time, and it seems like, why are you doing that, Mr. Whiskey? That's doing nothing because it's not, for now it's for 10 years from now.

For, for circling back to like, I am creating stuff for the future, and not everyone understands that. And it's, it's, it can be difficult, especially when you're in a situation where people aren't supporting you. And in fact, when the people you care about are against you saying, you know, why are you doing this?

Why are you, some people would've said, you know, Ms. Dobbins, why are you even bothering doing that survey? It's just, it's a waste of time. It's barely worth the money, you know, but it's right. What you can do with your skills, your knowledge, and and what you are. And one of my favorite quotes in the Bible is from when Joseph's brothers find him in Egypt, and you know, they're terrified that he's gonna kill them because of what they did.

They threw him in a well and sold him out to slavery. But he says, and this is paraphrase, I'm gonna butcher this, but he says, what you intended for evil, God intended for good, for the salvation saving of many, you know, and many people paraphrase it as. Whatever the enemy uses against us, God can use for us.

Yes, and I think, like you said, you gave a great example with the, I've always thought of that. My dad used to say that every time we were running late somewhere and someone would complain, my dad said, well, God may have just saved us from a deadly car crash down the highway. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know? Mm-hmm.

You never know how things line up, and there have been plenty of times in my life, like you said, you're running late for something and then boom, you bump into someone who changes your whole life. You mentioned very earlier on in episode how complex this world is and how mm-hmm. You don't understand how many things have to happen for a single dollar to get to you.

Like where that dollar has been. It's been all over places circulating around the world. Mm-hmm. And so, mm-hmm. When we, like we said earlier, when you restrict stuff, when you block stuff, you have no idea the amount of complicated things that are going on. Sometimes bad things, sometimes good things to get that money to you.

Mm-hmm. So many people wanna just take the good, you know, we only want all the good. It's only half the circulation, you know, half of it is good. Mm-hmm. Half of it is bad. And you have to be willing to take it from both sides in order to get the full amount. Yeah. I, um, gosh, you're, I know this podcast, I'm the guest, but you are just, you are the light of the future.

I mean, I, I cry a lot. Thank you. So I'm trying not to cry on this podcast, but it truly is just so beautiful for me to listen to somebody that really actually has that philosophy and that belief in life already at a young age, because I've been on this path for. You know, my adult life and I still see grownups, what I perceive as grownups that just don't get that.

And the idea that you are sharing the things that you do, and that's why I wrote this new book about investing. I. Because every single thing that we do, every single day, every thought, every action, every feeling, every word that comes out of us is an investment. So we're either investing in ourselves or we're just spending energy because investing is to get a return.

That's what investing is about. But what we don't realize as, as you said. We are not looking at every single thing that we do as an investment. So when you do a devotion or you meditate or you pray, or you spend time in nature, or we give ourselves the benefit of being still and reflective, that's an investment.

It's an investment in ourselves. When we are kind to other people, that's an investment. And so we don't know. And just using that notion that the world is so complicated that we have no idea how God is at work right in this planet and the whole universe and says, I'm gonna drop these things in line and you're gonna run into them if you allow it because the magic is here and I know how to create it for you.

But we do, we get into resistance, we get into. I have to have it now, or it's not going fast enough, and then we start deciding we're in charge when the fact is, is that we're just here having a really good time enjoying life. And the fact is, is that if we truly begin to look at our lives, we have 24 hours.

Some of it's asleep, but 24 hours to invest in ourselves and what are we gonna create that's gonna be compounded everybody, you know, I don't know that necessarily they teach compounding interest much to, to the younger generations, but when I was growing up, it was like, would you have a pin? Would you like to have a penny that multiplies every day for 30 days?

Or would you like to have a million dollars? People will say, I want the million dollars. You're gonna get so much more with compounding. And that's what we do with every experience in our life. We're compounding. Do we love ourselves? Do we, are we authentic? Are we loving to other people? Are we serving our communities?

Are we doing those things that are gonna uplift other people? And just to hear you share that, because it's very hard, especially as a young person in this world of influencers, that you just keep reminding yourself, what other people think about me is none of my business. What other people think about me is their business and my business and God's business is to be the best human that I can be.

And I really applaud you for that because I can see that. I can feel it. I could feel it just coming off of your bio on your website. I just, I know that the world is in good hands because I know that this is the generation that's coming up. I appreciate that. Thank you for the kind of words and I wanna mention too, I know we've talked a lot about your book, but that's only one asset of what you do.

Can you tell us about your coaching and the other stuff you do to help people? So I do business coaching for women, mostly because I've been an ENT serial entrepreneur my whole life. So I can, you know, help women grow their businesses, build their business, start businesses. That's really one of my passions in life.

And I also have, um, a, a co, um, a mind mastermind called the Inner Billionaire Circle. So I really invite people to come and join that because. Whenever you get in a group of like-minded people, that's why 12 STR 12, 12 step programs work so well is that you're all there for a common reason. You all had a similar experience.

So I really believe in masterminds and in group situations, group coaching, I. So I do that, I do, um, mastermind retreats generally in ply. Dale, Carmen, Mexico. I just finished one for my birthday. Um, last month I turned 70, which that in and of itself, every time those, those numbers go off my lips, I think. Is that really true?

So my brain is a teenager, but my body has, um, you know, some age and wear on it. And, um, I also do individual coaching, but I will tell you that generally speaking, most people are not in that. Category to pay for my, um, one-on-one coaching because I only take about three clients a year. But it's just fabulous.

And then you can check out my website. I have all kinds of freebies all over the place, the debbie dobbins.com, and you can actually get the book for free. If you go on the website, there's a link there that you can get the book for free. And so I encourage everybody to at least take that activation and start down the path because starting down the path.

Is where this begins. I remember as I, in the book, I tell the story, it's been, gosh, 25 years ago, my first financial freedom course that I ever took. And I was, I thought I knew a lot of stuff about abundance because I used to teach it from a, you know, mindset perspective as opposed to much more of a, um, spiritual perspective.

And, um, I had a very large IRS lean, at that point it was almost a half a million dollars. And so the. The spiritual teacher is telling everybody, this is where we're going, this is what they're doing. And people would raise their hands and they have a $5,000 credit card debt. And I know my, I owe my mom $600 and I'm sitting there in my, you know, better holier than thou mindset thinking you guys don't understand.

I have almost a half a million dollar lien with the IRS. I could cure cancer before I could get that paid off. I'm thinking it, and then I said it out loud, and my spiritual teacher as beautiful, she is, she did not say these words, but you know how people will say something and you hear what you hear?

Mm-hmm. She said something about, you know, of course you're a spiritual being and that's not the truth of you, but she was very firm and very direct. But what I heard was get over yourself. And so literally that's my coaching style for anybody that's ever coached with me. I really don't let you wallow in your story.

I don't let you wallow in your excuse because nobody has a an excuse that's too big for God. And literally that is the messaging of all the things that I teach, is that your stories keep you stuck and God allows you to flourish and to bloom. And so when we begin to look at it from that perspective, nothing can get in our way.

Nothing. We have to make a decision that we're not gonna stick to our story and say that that's the reason that we can't move forward. Hmm. That's beautiful. I, I wanna leave it right there. 'cause that was perfect way to end it. I think the whole episode was packed with a lot of great advice and I, I hope that everyone listening that you really take this to heart and take a step back and, and look at your life.

I think a lot of times we're like. Kind of caught up where we are. Take a step back, just take a breath and you know, have a little bit of humility. And when you humble yourself, you open yourself up to wisdom, to growth, to so much. And like you said earlier, Ms. Dobb is, you know, pride is, is so destructive.

And we went over several ways in this episode alone of how it can really be hindering your life. So I want everyone listening to take a step back and. And to be a financial blessing to someone this week somehow, whether that's a charity or a nonprofit, I really believe in, in giving as much as, as receiving.

And like you said, I believe the more we give, the more we receive it. It is, it is a beautiful circulation. And I think, you know, there's, there's a lot we can do with that. And then again. We're gonna have your website and description below for everyone to check out your book, your coaching, your masterminds, or to just connect with you and, and have a conversation and, and, you know, follow up on some of the things you said today.

I really appreciate your time. I think it's important that people like you who have made a lot of money, you know, help, help others out. Uh, they're what we call them like gatekeepers and, and and secret holders when it comes to making money, when it comes to their business, when it comes to success. But you are here spending your time and your money to help further other people, and I think that's so important.

So I thank you a lot for that. Thank you. My pleasure.