From New Age To New Creation: Escaping Spiritual Deception & The Importance Of Praise

Today, I sit down with Dr. Laurette, a cognitive behavioral therapist, author, and founder of PraiseMoves®—a Christian alternative to yoga that fuses fitness, scripture, and faith for full-body renewal. Dr. Laurette’s story is one of radical transformation, moving from decades of New Age deception to discovering the truth and freedom found only in Jesus Christ.

In this episode, Dr. Laurette shares how she once searched for God across twenty countries, immersing herself in psychic practices, channeling, astrology, and yoga—only to find herself more broken and empty than ever. After years of chasing enlightenment through self-help and metaphysics, she had a divine encounter with God on April Fool’s Day, when she cried out in surrender and gave her life to Christ. That single moment changed everything.

We discuss the hidden dangers of New Age practices like yoga, manifestation, and “energy healing,” and how they often disguise themselves as light while pulling people away from God’s truth. Dr. Laurette breaks down how yoga’s roots in Hinduism and its spiritual symbolism directly contradict the Word of God. She also explains how her fitness ministry PraiseMoves® redeems movement through biblical meditation—using scripture-based stretching to glorify God instead of idols.

Dr. Laurette also introduces her groundbreaking program Weightloss Without Willpower, which combines neuroscience and scripture to help people overcome emotional eating and addiction through spiritual renewal. She reveals how aligning the mind and spirit with God’s Word leads to real transformation from the inside out.

We close by discussing her favorite verse, Mark 11:24: “Whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them.” Dr. Laurette reminds us that faith is not about striving—it’s about receiving. This episode is a bold and inspiring message about deliverance, discernment, and the supernatural peace that comes from surrendering everything to Christ.

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Transcript

 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Couple of Nukes. As always, I'm your host, Mr. Whiskey. And one of my favorite things, as I've mentioned before on the show, is the intersection of science and God. In fact, the more science I study, the more I find God. I think so many people study science to disprove God that they end up blinding themselves to the proof of God.

There's, there's actually different biases. You can study different terms for them, and one of them is, like you're going to deny whatever would prove you wrong and continue to look for what would prove you, right? And so I highly encourage y'all if you haven't looked at scientific things, proven God, which it's, it's not about the proof, right?

It's, it is about the faith. But if you are struggling and you need that reassurance, I encourage you to look at, there are so many scientific principalities, numbers, and just happenings. That show God, that show implications of a divine designer. And we are here today to talk about what can we do when we combine science and God, when we implement it into our life, what are the benefits?

And, and they're quite astounding from weight loss to improved energy, to just a, a new sense of purpose in divine energy, supernatural stamina. We're gonna get into that today with Dr. Lore, who has been changing lives, and we're gonna get into her journey of faith as well. We know that to change lives, you need to be changed first.

And so we're gonna talk about that. Everyone's journey of faith is always so unique and I, I just love being able to hear different testimonies. I encourage y'all who are discouraged, listen to other testimonies of faith and, and just be refreshed. Sometimes our own testimony just feels too weak. We, we lose sight of it.

And so I encourage y'all as you listen to this conversation. Please share with anyone who, who needs to be refreshed. But Dr. Loret, so great to have you here, and could you please tell us a little bit about yourself? Yes. Thank you so much for having me, Mr. Whiskey. I'm so thrilled to be here on couple of nukes.

Well, I think about the best way I can describe it is that God chooses the foolish things of this world to confound the wise. There's a scripture that says that, and I point to myself, I feel like one of those foolish things, and in fact, I'll share with you at, at some point in our conversation today, that I actually surrendered my life to the Lord.

One April Fool's Day. I went from being a fool for the world to a fool for Christ. So it just all worked together so perfectly. But the Lord also, he will use the weak things of this world, people who are weak in themselves or choose to be weak instead of puffed up with pride and I can do it myself.

To put to not those who are mighty in themselves. And I feel like that Ev, the only thing you know that qualifies me for all the great things that by the grace of God I get to do is everything I've done wrong. And I say that so that our audience will know that anything that's happened in your life.

That you feel is a negative that, oh God couldn't use me, or the enemy says that to you, or you have those old tapes, old thoughts. I want you to know that God can absolutely use you and use those things when you surrender them to him. And what I get to do, I'm a also a cognitive behavioral therapist. I've been a professional actor for over 30 years, improvisational comedian.

And I was known as the woman of 101 Voices. I did the Betty Boop show Off Broadway in New York City. I certainly did Boop, do so A little voice might come out here and there to wake us all up now. I'm kidding. But I was laughing on the outside. Right. But feeling empty on the inside. Mm-hmm. I started eating compulsively when I was six years old.

Overeater emotional eater. Wow. And found alcohol when I was 13, cigarettes at 15. Promiscuous lifestyle, death style at 16. It's amazing. I'm still alive, I'll put it that way. And then at 29, came to the end of myself. But all those things and oh, what led me into the new age. I was in New age for 22 years.

New age, religion, metaphysics everything from A to Z astrology to Zoroastrianism. I was a psychic. I was channel looking for God in all the wrong places. Went to mm-hmm. 20 different countries in six and a half months backpacking around Europe, looking at all the sacred sites, looking for God. Wow. Went to Machu Picchu in Peru.

Nothing. I felt like a like a donkey with a, with a carrot dangled in front of its nose. Just always looking for the next fix, the next conference, the next whatever. Because there are profound. Spiritual experiences in new age on the dark side. Very deceptive. Very deceptive. I thought I was serving God and I was wondering why do I still feel so empty?

Why do I still have the alcohol problem, the food problem, the smoking? Why do I still have no peace? And it was by surrendering my life to Jesus Christ. That made all the difference. But here's the good news, that everything that was a negative in my past, the Lord has used and turned it into a ministry.

And we'll talk more about that. And I, I wanna encourage you, our, our, our listener, that those things in your past can absolutely be turned into a blessing for others. How do you do that? Well, there's a scripture that says, our God is a consuming fire. So this is so cool. So if you used your sanctified imagination, right?

And you just take all those things from, from the past, all those hurtful things, things that you've done, things that others have done to you, whatever it is, and I want you just to throw it all over onto the Lord, he's a consuming fire. Mm-hmm. What happens when things are burned up in the fire? They become ashes.

And there's a scripture in Isaiah 61 that says, he gives us beauty for ashes. So I wanna promise you, God uses everything. And when you empty yourself of expectations, just surrender to him. He as love will flow through you, that vessel of honor that he can flow through to be a blessing for other, and your life will be so full of joy, peace, and the love of God.

It's, it's a wonderful thing, Mr. Whiskey. It's a, it's, it's a blessing to be used of God because you can never use up all the goodness of God he wants to do through you for sure. And you talk about the hardships you have to go through when, when you're a believer. And I remember I was listening to one of my favorite pastors and he goes, so many people say.

Make me a prophet Lord. And then, like you end up like having you look at the Old Testament, there are gonna be things asked of you that are very difficult. It is not an easy path. And Jesus himself said that those who are called to be, be a teacher or a, teach scripture, you are held to a higher standard.

You have to be true. There, there are Bible quotes about when you preach against sin, you gotta be on guard to not fall into it yourself, lest you be teaching something you do not follow. And I want to share a, a paraphrase from the Bible that many people quote is whatever the devil intended for evil, God will use for good.

And it draws from a lot of places in the Bible. But one, one of my favorite quotes, Genesis 50 20, it's when Joseph's brothers, they, they find him as, working for the Pharaoh. And they think that he's gonna, extract revenge on them because they threw him in the well and sold him into slavery.

But what he says to them is something that I, that I've always really loved, which is, you intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives. Mm-hmm. And I think so many times. We worry about other people in our lives who are sinning and it affects us negatively.

And we say, how is God going to turn this around? And it's, even the sins of others God will use for us on, on top of our own sins. Now, that's not a free pass saying go, and sin God will turn everything around. I believe that you have to actively pursue righteousness and what is good, but when you're in line with God and and following his will, your life is going to be blessed much more abundantly than when you're not.

And I, I wanna talk about, it's so interesting how everything overlaps. You were talking about, I don't know much about the new age stuff, I'm sure I've encountered plenty of it in different mediums throughout, my life. And you talk about profound spiritual encounters and accomplishments in, in these other places.

But they're, they're wrong. They're false. And one of the sermons I have coming up was I came across a reading in Deuteronomy that I'll share now that inspired me to speak and, and I want to go into it. It's Deuteronomy 13. It's about worshiping other gods. And it says, if a prophet or one who foretells by dreams appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, let us follow other gods, gods you have not known and let us worship them.

You must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. And that phrase, all your heart and all your soul appears a lot in Deuteronomy. I bring that up because I believe that we get so focused on the, on the, on the people part.

We've seen plenty of false prophets and, and in the New Testament, it tells us if we warns us of false prophets that will continue to come and twist the scripture. I think people lose sight that it's more than just false prophets in, in the flesh. Mm-hmm. The crystal worship using crystal's, fortune cookies, fortune tellers Zo, all these different predictions through, through psyches, through mediums, those are all false prophets as well.

We lose sight of that. We say, we, we think to ourselves, oh, isn't it strange though that this fortune cookie, I, I opened it, it, it kind of was true. I've known people of, of the faith who have done tarot card readings, which ishmm, pagan, and they we're like, wow, this is uncannily true. I think you have to remember I, because that, that, that quote I just read from Deuteronomy 13, right?

So many people are New Testament enthusiasts. Jesus loves me, X, Y, Z, right? Great stuff. They, they forget about little stuff like that. And when I read that, it really spoke to me because so many people. We will try to say that God is using pagan's sources to preach to them or that maybe, maybe there's more than one God or, or other stuff is right.

But you gotta remember that God allows stuff to, to test us. And I think that was amazing on the, on the good side is nothing will, overcome you that you can't resist. Right. But I think it's important, and I think it's getting more and more difficult to recognize false prophets in this day and age of celebrity and celebration, which is just modern idolatry.

These people in the media that we, we push up, I believe these influencers online and other people who are ill intended or not of the faith, there's a lot of false Christian musicians artists, speakers. And I think we need to remember that it's so much more. And I mean, you talk about kind of experiencing some of that.

I, I'd love for you to unpack just a little bit more as well about your personal experiences and elaborate upon different false prophets in your life that kind of, shook you. Mm, absolutely. Well, when I was seven years old and I, I grew up on Long Island in New York and everything looked beautiful on, on the outside.

My parents were successful. They came from relatively modest means, but they were the first in their families to go to college and to go to law school. And my mother on a full scholarship, my dad on the GI Bill. And they wanted to earn income. They wanted to change their, their station in life.

And my dad became a judge. He had his own law practice. My mother was the first woman, assistant district attorney on Long Island. And everything looked great. But on the inside there was alcoholism. My mother was an alcoholic. She had three nervous breakdowns. When I was growing up, my dad was an emotional eater and also a rageaholic.

I was their only child. And so at the age of six, I found food to numb me. And I'm sure a lot of the ladies listening will, and maybe you've heard of this too, 'cause I've asked some gentlemen, it's like, oh yes, I've heard of that. Have you heard Mr. Whiskey of the Easy Bake Oven? Yes. Okay. Yeah.

That's something a lot of kids have, a lot of girls had in my area when I grew up, even though I was a tomboy, I still had the easy bake oven. Right? Right. But guess why I never made anything with it. Guess why I never made a cake with it? I, I don't know. I wanna say, well, if I was gonna say, if you were really smart, you were gonna say you didn't want to preprogram yourself to, to be susceptible to that kind of stuff because the, when you indulge in that stuff as a child smart, you're more likely to indulge in it as an adult.

But I don't know if you were that smart, as I don't think I was that smart, smart. I ate all the cake mix. That's what happened. Just, just raw cake mix. Yes, I did. I ate all the cake mix, so that's why I never did. It was there, that was it. Interesting. And actually my top weight was when I was 12, 13 years old.

Wow. At the age of seven, my mom and I found yoga, thinking it was just exercise. And for those who are listening, it's like, well, it is just exercise, isn't it? I mean, my doctor recommended television. What if you wanna really know what yoga is from someone who had been in it for 22 years, from the ages of seven till I was 29?

And have seen all sides of it. Believe me. Go to praise moves.com. That's Praise moves.com. Look under the About tab, you'll see truth about yoga. And you'll see not only in my words and others who have been involved in yoga, but yogis also Hindus, new Ages. What they say, yoga truly is. It is not, just exercise.

It's actually the missionary arm of Hinduism and New Age, and I'm not the only one that says that. In 1991, Swami Siva. Siva Palani is the man's name, he wrote an open letter to Evangelicals. It was called in Hinduism today, mag Magazine. And he said in 1991. So you know, a lot of decades ago, right? He said over the last 30 years.

Hindu missionaries have been sent forth, yoga missionaries. He called them. He said they don't call themselves Hindu, but Hindus know where yoga is from and where it leads. And he says they've been beautifully trained in haha, Raja SEHA, Kundalini, which are different types of yoga, right? And the haha yoga is what most people do in the United States, for example, and in western culture, in fitness centers, but also in churches.

And a lot of people don't realize that yoga is actually, well, the poses in yoga are offerings to the 330 million Hindu gods, and we're told in Acts 1529 to abstain from things offered to idols along the line of what you were saying about idols before, and it's a twisting of Romans 12. One, present your bodies a living sacrifice.

Holy and acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And in yoga, they talk about emptying your mind. But what does it say in Romans 12, two, right after the scripture I just gave you, do not be conformed to this world like this. Water is conformed to the shape of this glass, but be transformed. How?

By the renewing of your mind on what? On the word of the living God for what purpose? So that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. So what we do in praise moves is we have. Stretching, strengthening postures that we do that are each assigned a scripture that we meditate upon and speak aloud while doing a stretching, strengthening posture.

All the exercises and the different certifications we have in praise moves. There are, foundation is the word of God that we meditate upon and speak aloud 'cause it changes people's lives. And we have hundreds of fitness ministers certified praise moves, instructors, both women and men, ages 18 to eighties all over the world.

It is by the grace of God. But see, that was something I was involved in from the age of seven and it opened the door. To new age for my mother and myself. We walked away from Christ, not even realizing that we were, and it led us into the new age. And then at 13, you see, okay, this is important to realize, and I'm sure a lot of our, our listeners do.

Whenever there is a spiritual vacuum, the enemy rushes in with some kind of a counterfeit, and it, it might taste good. Kind of like cotton candy at the country. Fair. Right. You, it tastes good, it melts in the mouth, but if you try to live on it, a person will not survive. 'cause there's no nourishment.

There's no substance, there's no reality. Mm-hmm. It's just melts. And Oh, for a second it's Oh, and then, huh. And that's what new age is. And the thing is, it is very deceptive. There's witchcraft in it, there are spirits upon it that can really deceive people. And so then at the age of 13, my parents were divorced.

And I found alcohol. And then at 15 cigarettes and those other drugs, self-medicating, kept the food down for me. 'cause my top weight was when I was 12, 13 years old. But the other drugs numbed me sufficiently to make it through. And I, I say this to our audience also. Please don't berate yourself for the things that you've used in the past to get through.

Because you can have a new day, starting today. And just look at it this way. Hey, it brought you here. You're still alive. Someone else may have lost their mind and not been able to make it, but you're still here and the Lord is here for you and will clean all of that up. So, I look to see what am I gonna do, with my life and I guess.

Kept going forward in the new age, looking for God in all the wrong places. At the age of 24, my mother took her life sadly, and two years later, my, my father died of diabetes and heart disease. And so it's not a big surprise that I'm very interested in mental health and physical health, right, and also in redeeming those things that the enemy has twisted to bring things back to glorify the Lord.

Before we go any further, I'd love for you to clarify. We've the term new age. For people who have never heard of that or aren't familiar with that, what, how would you define it? How would you group here? Kind of what makes up all of that? That's a great question because New Age is a, a hodgepodge of a number of different beliefs.

Everything from pantheism to astrology, Hinduism, Buddhism, a little bit of Christianity, just little bits and pieces that we like just as well. Didn't Jesus say you are God's? And so the idea of we can be God. The idea with new age, spirituality, new age, religion, there's nothing new about it.

It's as old as sin. Is that different from what the word of God says, that we are made in God's image. Genesis 1 26 and 27 New Age says you make God in your image. He can be anything you want, anything. So it's getting out from under the authority of Jesus Christ. And there's no such thing as sin. Sin is an acronym for self-inflicted Nonsense.

Well, why did Jesus come? Oh, he was just a good teacher. They realize they can't deny his existence, but they try to change the wording of it. And that there are different levels of Christ. There's Christ consciousness, and Jesus embodied that. But so did Buddha and so did no, it's all a lie. It's a bunch of nonsense, nonsensical things.

But it, it appeals in many ways especially in Western culture to the. Mighty mind. You know this logic, I have it all figured. I think it's called pride, right? It's that pride. That's when Jesus said about Satan. He said, I, I saw Satan fall like lightning. The moment that pride came up and scripture says that a haughty spirit goes before a fall and pride before destruction, and that's what we want to pay attention to.

Are we doing anything that's lifting ourselves up? That's what there, there used to be a, there used to be a commercial back in, I think it was like the eighties or the nineties, and it was about burger King. That was it. It was Burger King. Fast food. Have it your way. Have it your way. Yeah. That's, that's new age.

It's have it your way, there, it's. It's however you want it to be. You create your own reality, you visualize. So it's taking things that God has given us, like our creative imagination. There's nothing wrong with imagination when it's, when it's channeled in a way, properly in line with the word of God and the way things that the, the Lord wants you to have things did you know, okay, here's a great example too.

In the new age they talk a lot about vision boards and stuff. And so I stayed away from that, after I got saved. And I'll tell you the story of how I got saved. It was really remarkable. We'll do that at some point. But the anything that even. Smacked even slightly of New Age. I've just stayed away from it.

And then the most amazing thing, Mr. Whiskey, when I looked in Genesis 15, five, I saw the world's first Vision board and I went, glory to God. I just knew it. There had to be something good about that. What is Genesis 15, five? Well, before God changed Abram's name to Abraham. Mm-hmm. In Genesis 15, five, Abram said, Lord, what will you do for me?

Seeing I go childless. That was the problem. He was seeing himself going childless. And so the Lord said to him, come out of your tent. We would say, come outta your comfort zone. That comfortable place, that old place that you're in. Come out. Come out. It's dark out, but there are points of light come out, look up at the stars, look up at the sky, look at the stars.

If you're able to number them, so shall your descendants be. He gave him something to look at. That was the world's first vision board. Then he gave him something different to hear. He changed his name to Ham. He put the, the Hashem, the name in his name, so that he started to be able to say the, the father of many nations, the father of a multitude, and he began saying, I am Abraham.

Something different to say now. Right? The Lord had given him that promise back when he was 75 years old, 25 years before, and he was 75. Sarah was 65. She'd been barren and they thought, okay the Lord's, saying that I'm going to be the father of, there's gonna be a, a child of promise. And so they started doing it themselves, just saying, well, we can't do it.

So maybe God meant this, and that's how we wind up with an ish smile, right? That that happened. But 25 years later, then God changed his name, changed, what he heard changed what he said. He started speaking and hearing in line with what God said. Romans 10 17, faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

And you believe more what you say than what anyone else says. So when you are speaking in line with God's word, man, oh man, the most amazing things happen. And you know how long it took from, well, the 25 years, but then God changed his name, what he heard, what he said, what he saw. Until the Child of Promise came was just nine months after 25 years.

So when you start speaking differently about yourself, and the thing is in New Age, they do something similar, but they're not scripture based affirmations. There's things like, nothing is either good nor bad, but thinking makes it so I'm better in every way and every day, and da da, da, da da, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

If something bad happens to someone, oh, you obviously drew that to yourself on some level to teach yourself something. I mean, how cruel, there's, oh, well there's karma, i've heard a lot about this recently actually. It's, it's very big in a lot of the industries I work in as, as a result of what I do, which is manifesting oh, people saying, I'm throwing it out into the universe.

I'm putting it out into the universe. The universe, the universe is gonna return to me this year. And talking about again, the manifesting. The manifesting. And I, I've heard a lot about it. So when, when you say it like that, a hundred percent with the, with the, with the karma, the manifesting, the putting it into the universe, speaking it into existence, all that.

Yeah. And the thing is, they're worshiping the creation instead of the creator. And scripture talks about that too. Mm-hmm. The confusion, not wanting to come under the authority of Jesus Christ. I'll tell you what, and my husband and I have spoken about this too, because he came out of New Age as well. If someone had said to us threat.

Paul, my husband is Paul. Do you realize that you can have a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ? You can have a personal one-on-one intimate relationship with. If someone had explained that to me, I would've been all over it, but no one explained that to me. I, I first heard the plan of salvation when I was 19 years old, and I come from an Episcopal background.

My parents Episcopalian. And they came outta Irish, Roman Catholic, all our families, Irish Roman Catholic, and revered the Bible, revered the Lord. But the idea of knowing him personally, what are you crazy? What are you nuts? That would've been like, no, I never heard of such a thing. So when I did hear it, I equated it to becoming a nun, and that's what I thought. And I remember even thinking interesting, and I, I felt this pull when the salvation message, we went to a, it was a play that I, I went to when I went to college and it was very appealing. It was something along the lines of kind of like, heaven's, gates, and hell's flames.

That was something back in the day. I don't know if they still still have it, but it was something like that. And I felt this yearning, but my head and the enemy chopped it off right there, just saying, no, I'm not. I'm, I'm only 19. I haven't even lived yet. I don't, I'm not ready to become a nun. So that when I came to the end of myself when I was 29.

And I wanna encourage our, our listeners too, that you're praying for someone right now to, to come to the Lord. And I want you to know that the Lord will use whatever it takes to bring them to their knees. Now, he will not necessarily cause those things to happen, but he will use them as a way to help.

When that person comes to the end of themselves, the end of what they can do when they hit that wall, Jesus is there, and they'll surrender. 'cause that's what happened to me, Mr. Whiskey. I was 29. I wanted someone to love me for myself. I'd never been married. I'd had a lot of reckless relationships, and I was empty on the inside and the day before I came to Christ.

The day before April Fool's Day, I was 29 years old. I was living in a new age community in northeastern Oklahoma. I had moved from New York City where I was an actor and comedian i'd. I'd been around the world looking for God in all the wrong places and thought, let me move here, to these, this new age community and this, this will do it, geographical cure.

But it didn't work because crummy me, followed me out to Northeastern Oakland. I was still the crummy person that I was. I thought the, changing location would change me. No, right. I was still me. Wherever you go, there you are, is the expression. So there I was and I felt there's gotta be something better.

I was driving home from town, turned onto the dirt road to go up the mountain, and I heard a voice over my right shoulder, and this is a voice that I had heard from the ages of three and a half till I was six. I used to have visions of the Lord. I would hear his voice. I used to tell him jokes because I thought your job is so hard, you need a good joke.

That was how I felt when I was a little kid and I felt so close to the Lord. I had a picture Bible and I'd put my stuffed animals around in a semi-circle and I would tell them the historical accounts from the word. I don't like to say stories from the Bible 'cause it sounds like it's make believe or fairytales, right?

But they're historical accounts. But I just pulled him from the pictures then. But I would hear the Lord's voice and he would say, everything's going to be all right. Whenever I was upset, everything is going to be all right. Oh, I knew that voice. I hadn't heard it since I was six years old when the wall came up.

I called it that age of accountability. The Lord asked me an amazing question that shook my world. I pulled off to the side of the road. He asked me this, what if everything you thought about God was completely wrong? Would you be willing to give it up to know the truth? What if everything I thought about God was completely wrong?

Would I be willing to give it up to know the truth? I'd spent thousands of dollars. I'd been all over the world looking for God. What if everything I thought about God was completely wrong? Would I be willing to give it up to know the truth? Yes. Yes, yes, I would. And thinking maybe the truth was a philosophy or a way of doing things, not realizing the truth as a person, Jesus, the way, the truth and the life.

And I said, yes, yes, I would. So the next day, April Fool's Day, I was in my kitchen walking around and around this island in the kitchen, my dog, Tula a little border collie, watching me go around and around a circle, and I felt this, this. Battle going on on the inside of me. And suddenly I just cried out and I knew I was crying out to the Lord.

I said, I surrender. I give up. You win. If you can do something with this life, you can have it. And I fell on my knees and I said, if you want me to be alone, then give me peace. If you want me to be with someone, send them soon. 'cause I can't live like this anymore. And I fell on my face and I felt a physical weight lift off me that I learned later was the weight of sin.

And like I said, new Ages don't believe in sin. They think it's an acronym for self-inflicted nonsense. And I was like, whoa. It felt like my body on the earth that it was just that weight, physical weight lifted off. And at that moment, peace descended upon me for the first time in my life. This beautiful peace, and from the center of that peace, joy, that joy unspeakable and full of glory I'd never experienced before.

And I realized later at that moment, the Lord delivered me from alcoholism. I didn't even ask for it. It was completely gone. It was totally washed from my mind for about a year. Completely vanished. And I mean, I used to have blackouts. I ran through New York City several times in a, in an alcoholic blackout.

It's amazing. I'm still alive. The beautiful thing, one of the beautiful things. Four days later after that experience, on April Fool's Day, when I went from being a fool for the world to a fool for Christ, four days later I met my husband Paul, who had three years clean and sober. So alcohol, drugs never came into our relationship.

We were married three months later on 4th of July, which we call Interdependence Day and have been married ever since. So the Lord is great and greatly to me, praised what he can, what he can do in his infinite mercy that endures forever. I, I agree. I think for me personally, to give really brief version of my, my background mm-hmm.

I was raised and told that I, I was an antichrist continually, and that I belonged to Allegion and to Satan, and it, it came to a point where I had a personal encounter with Jesus Christ and in a dream, a conversation with him about it. And from there. I want to research and know more about the truth.

And so I, I read Revelation first, and then I read the New Testament and then the Old Testament back through it all. And as I've always said, reading the entire Bible beginning to end, changed everything. Seeing all the interconnections, knowing the historical precedent for, for each chapter, it was beautiful.

What I encourage is so many people look in the wrong places. You talked about your search. I know a lot of people who are looking for God, but they're not looking in the scripture, they're not talking to him. They're searching for it in, in people, in places. And yes, God is there and everywhere, but where you'll find him is at the source.

The scripture. You could go to a church, but the church is full of people. And people misrepresent God all the time. People. And not always maliciously. Sometimes, sometimes people just don't know. But if you go to the word, you can find God there. And I encourage people to read the Bible with, with an intrigue, with an interest in it.

So many people say the Bible, the Bible is boring. Or, what does this matter to today? When you slow down and actually digest it? When you look at the historical accounts and the, the extra information regarding that time period, the language, the culture, you'll find that it's quite interesting. You mentioned earlier on the, the picture books and the stories of the Bible stories that you, you often hear in like if you're in vacation Bible school, a summer program or something, right?

Like the example I always use is Jonah, one of my favorite one of my favorite accounts in the Bible. And it's very short. It's only like four pages. Easy read. But most people only know the first two pages, the fir maybe even just the first page. All they know all that we really teach children to grab their attention.

Other people was Jonah got swallowed by a whale. It wasn't even a whale, it was a predetermined fish. It was an appointed fish. Mm-hmm. It could have been a whale. I'm not saying it wasn't, but people gotta realize that's all they know. And then you leave out the part about wait, it's actually the salvation and redemption of Nineveh and the conversation between God and Jonah about anger and what humanity owns that is so important.

Mm-hmm. And it's not just Jonah. That is one prime, very easy to use example, because most people know about that story. They see the visual imagery of it. But look at King David. Most people who are not believers. Oh yeah. King David, Goliath, the Slingshot, they all know about that. Yeah. Well, what about the rest of it?

King. King David is important. I mean, king David is, is is part of the bloodline of Jesus Christ. Number one, you gotta look at everything he did for the kingdoms, for the, for the people and his fall and how he failed his family. Most people they know, oh yeah, David. He killed good life. Yeah. Did you know that he let one of his children rape his other children and didn't do anything about it?

There's a lot to unpack there that shows about family dynamics and how people who have sin and feel morally unable to speak about things, let things go about how work and, and life can get in the way between family. Like there is a lot to unpack there, yet people only know the highlights. Like I, I, I liken it to social media.

You look at all the highlight reels, people just want instant gratification. They want easy, they want benefits, and they don't want accountability when you slow down and read everything in the Bible. You get more than just the highlights, you get the truths that, that, that cut to your heart. You get the accountability, you look at it and you see people fail time and again.

But I think it's important to not lose sight of that. So I really encourage everyone to read a scripture, slow down. If you're having trouble with the Old Testament, Sean Dunn the other day on an episode shared about when you read the Old Testament, if you're struggling, slow down, actually digest it and look for Jesus Christ in it.

What is God doing to set up Jesus Christ? What is going on? But me personally, I love the Old Testament because mm-hmm. I look at it and I'm like, these people are, are like me. Like I am. I have a sermon in the works on Absalom and I, I listened to a pastor who was mocking Absalom, making fun of, and this and that, and I said, dude, we're absaloms, half of us.

Absalom took vengeance for his sister because no one else did. Instead of leaving it to the Lord. But I said, you, you're making fun of him. Yet, that's something a lot of us would do. That's actually a very human reaction. My father didn't do anything, so I'm gonna do something. Mm-hmm. I think it's important people don't want to see themselves reflected in the Bible, but I think that's part of the whole purpose of it, is to see that reflection and then change it with the rest of the book that tells you how to do it Right.

I, I think it's so important, and one of the quotes I always share is from the end of Ecclesiastes, which changed my perspective on life big time. That is a very somber book, but very crucial. I encourage everyone to read that. If you don't read anything else in the Bible, read all of it, but read Ecclesiastes in the end.

Basically what the wise teacher says is pay attention to all this wisdom I just shared in the Bible. Because of the reading and writing of many books, there will be no end. And what he predicted that is so true is that you have thousands of these Christian self-help books of all these other self-help books, of all these self-improvement books and all these resources, and they have strayed further and further away from the Bible.

I'm not saying all of these books are anti-biblical or don't have strong scriptural backing, but it is so important to always keep the Bible, keep the word hidden in your heart, meditate on it day and night to have that at the center of your life. I'm not saying don't read books, I, it's important to read and, and be educated and, and learn.

But don't let them lead you astray and, and get mixed up with all this stuff, especially when this stuff seems promising, when it seems like it's aligned with the word and it's not. We talked about these false prophets speaking through themselves, through tarot cars, through Crystals, books, podcasts, and other written works as well.

So it's really important to have that spirit of discernment. And I, I just want to share that idea of reading the Bible itself. Mm, that's true there. Reminds me of two things that I've heard about the Bible, which really had an impact upon me as well. Don't judge the Bible, but let the Bible judge you.

Amen. Amen. And so when you Amen, open it up to ask Holy Spirit, please reveal to me. In your word, Lord, what I need to know, is there a scripture that says that wisdom is the principle thing, therefore get wisdom. And in all you're getting, get understanding. So Holy Spirit helped me to understand this, to take it personally.

And another beautiful thing that has, has really helped me a lot is that like this is, is this is a book. It is, it can be any book. It is a picture of the author. This, the Bible is the author. That's the difference. This is the picture of an author. This, the Bible is the author. And where do we see that John one, one says, in the beginning was the word, the word was with God.

The Word was God. Verse 14 says, the word became flesh and dwelt among us. The word is Jesus. Revelation 1913 says, when Jesus comes back, scripture says His name is the word of God. So this is living, breathing word of God that speaks to you when you want to know Jesus, he speaks to you through his word here, and it changes you from the inside out.

This goes along also with weight loss without willpower, because people say, how can you lose weight without dieting? And like one of our gals Jessica Minter in Oklahoma City, she's a young mom, dropped 70 pounds, it's been off for, for two years without dieting. And she said, I never thought before of inviting the Lord into my weight loss journey.

And she said that. I could lose weight and be healthy. A biblical way had never occurred to her before. She said, I could do this for the rest of my life. And that's why we say don't diet live it. And where does that come from? Well, if you look at Romans eight 11, and this will go for whether you wanna lose weight, you wanna stop smoking.

You want to change something with, maybe have an anger issue. Just anything like that, that's like, oh Lord, help me with this. It has to happen from the inside out because a diet, if we look at it for weight loss, the diet will work for a while, but if we don't change what's going on in the head in the heart, what we do in weight loss without willpower is we renew the mind on the word of God.

Then we train, retrain the brain using neuroscience principles and techniques based on scripture. Romans eight 11 says, if the spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead. Lives in you. He who raised Christ from the dead will also quicken or give life to your mortal body. How? Through a special diet, a special cream, a special exercise.

No. How will he change your mortal body through his spirit who lives in you? It happens from the inside out. That's why I can say now as a, I don't call myself a recovering alcoholic. I'm recovered. It's, I was totally delivered of that. The same with smoking. It came a few years later. But you know that overeating, the original drug of choice, the food overeating, but really the under feeling, that was the addiction, the numbing under feeling, using a substance to change my state, using comfort food instead of going to the comforter, had to change.

Had to change that, that original drug of choice came, came up with a, with a vengeance, and I realized I had to change from the inside out. I was a member of Overeaters Anonymous for five years. Went through the 12 steps that way, and it, it, it was good. I, I had a measure of, of help there, but not until I truly found what we do in weight loss without willpower, which is truly working the word of God and getting back in touch with the signals that the Lord placed in our body to begin with hunger and satiety, which is enough or, or fullness.

I didn't have a full signal for about 30 years. I remember the first time my full signal came back, I was at dinner with my husband. We're sitting in the dining room there, and all of a sudden I just felt this, what I guess normal people feel, just like I've had enough food, this, this fullness.

And I went, huh. I got my full signal back and I started to cry and he, my husband said, you're, you're what? You're your wife. Right? Right. Said my full signal back. He said, what's, what's, what's that? And I said, I can tell I'm full. I, and it was just a feeling I'd never had before. I was a clean plate club.

I'd eaten until the food was gone and then maybe go for seconds until, almost till. It hurts sometimes, but we get back in touch with how the Lord designed our body. 'cause when you were a toddler, you know someone who's listening and says, yeah, I don't have a full signal, or, or I don't wait until I have a hunger signal to eat.

I eat when it's 12 o'clock or six o'clock, or, whatever. Or I just see food and I eat it. What we do is we wait on the hunger signal and then we stop at enough so you can eat. What you're led to eat what you want to eat, right? But you pay attention to your body. 'cause when you're a toddler, you knew when you were hungry, you knew when you'd had enough.

So we get back in touch with those with those signals. And that's why it's so beautiful to do things the Lord's way. I could have as much wine and, and scotch that I want. I could smoke all the cigarettes that I want to. I can eat all the candy and the cake and the whatever I want to, but I don't want to anymore.

My want to has changed. And that's an inside job that the Holy Spirit does. And I invite anyone who wants to learn about that. You can. I have a free gift actually. It's Christian Weight Loss kit. Com Christian weight loss kit.com. It's a, it's a free mini course, a video course and a guide. And in fact, before we leave today, I can share with you, and you could do this with me if you'd like, and also our, our listeners.

It's a bilateral brain stimulation technique that cuts cravings in 10 to 15 seconds. For sure. We can go ahead and do that now. Actually. That sounds pretty interesting. Okay. Wonderful. Yeah, we'll do this and then we solidify it with scripture. It is so cool. So all you need is a pen. We can use a key or a stone.

I, I also like this little stone that I got 'cause it has a little happy face on it and it just makes me smile. So you can use whatever you want. We use a pen, and what I want you to do is to use your sanctified imagination and imagine where that food craving. Thing is, wherever the food that you crave, maybe it's in the refrigerator, the freezer, the pantry, the cupboard and your brain is, is trained to whenever you want maybe distraction or your happy, or you're sad or you're angry or some kind of emotion, or you're about to work on a project, and this is what happened to me many times, Mr.

Whiskey is, I'd be about to do a project and then all of a sudden I think I wanna snack. Distraction, procrastination. Right, right. We're, the, the, the brain has been. Has been trained to go for comfort, to, to, to save us, supposedly from something that's uncomfortable.

So what we've learned to do is go to the comforters instead, the comfort food or comfort activity, comfort relationship, whatever it is or activity that we're doing. So I want you to see yourself going there. And don't worry, because we're going to make it go away. We're gonna cut the connection. But say you're opening the cupboard, the fridge, the freezer, you know exactly where it is, the bag, the carton, the whatever it is, you're going to reach for it.

And right now I want you to take that pen and bring it from one hand to the other. Back and forth. One hand to the other. One hand to the other, one hand to the other, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And then repeat the scripture after me, please. All things are lawful for me. All things are lawful for me. But not all things are helpful, but not all things are helpful.

All things are lawful for me. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any, but I will not be brought under the power of any. First Corinthians six 12. First Corinthians six 12. That's it? Yes. Now what happens? You have to actually say it. Well, let me ask you, where did the craving go?

Do you still have the craving or the thought of the food? No, it just, now it's a bilateral brain stimulation technique, so it, it works neurologically. It cuts the circuit that we're used to going, because when you do something involving two hands like that, it does, but what we wanna do is then press into it what I call a b.

It's called a boundary scripture. Where, and, and this is one Corinthians six 12 and New King James version. I like that version of this particular scripture because it's, it uses easy words that I can understand. I find that very helpful and you have to say it out loud. It doesn't work. Just thinking it right.

My husband is one of those normal eaters. He can have like one m and m and then put them away. It's like had had, I'd have no idea how how he does that. Yeah, I don't think I could do that. That's, no, I don't think I could either. But he has a basket of his treats and things. He puts them on top of the refrigerator, and I have been where this little 4-year-old child on the inside of me, he is like, I want it.

I just want it. And my hand is going for it. And then the will, I can lean to the flesh or I can lean to the spirit. It's like I'm gonna lean to the spirit. You have to say it out loud. All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful. All things are lawful for me. And then the Holy Spirit through the word of God just rises up on the inside of your recreated human spirit.

I will not be brought under the power of any, ooh, glory to God. All of a sudden I feel this, this fullness that I was looking for in the food. Nothing can take the place of the fullness being filled with all the fullness of God. Ephesians three 19, you get a taste of that man cannot live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God as Jesus said.

So that's what we do. Combining the, renewing the mind, retraining the brain, putting the two together. Because someone may be a, a strong believer, Hey, I've got the word down. Why do I keep going around the same mountain again And again? It's because of the retraining of the brain that is the missing piece.

So in our coaching as group coaching, as well as one-on-one coaching that I do with women, we work on that no matter what the area is, there's always an answer in the word of the living God, I believe that. I truly do. And so on that note, what I always ask a faith-based guest before we close out is if you could share one Bible quote that's on your heart right now, what would that be?

The quote that's on my heart, and it's one of my favorites. When we pray, we often are asking, asking, asking. Mm-hmm. And we neglect to receive. Ooh. And so Mark 1124, Jesus himself said, whatever things you ask when you pray, right this moment, when you pray, believe that you receive it, believe that you take it, it says in the Greek, and you will have it not in the sweet by and bye, but in the blessed here and now, I believe you will have it.

Well, how can I have something I'm praying for and believing for if it's not in my head, my hands, or my circumstances? Yet I believe you can receive into your spirit those things by faith, because to believe God is to. Receive from God. I'm one of those. Name it and claim it people. If God named it, I claim it not some wacky wild thing out here.

But if the Lord says I can have health, I can be free, I can prosper, which means to break through to success in every area of your life. Mm-hmm. If the Lord wants us to be healthy, fit, and free, I want that. So when you, me too, ask, be sure that you then receive by faith. And then the third step is to start praising the Lord that you have it.

Because what are the first two words out of your mouth, Mr. Whisky, when someone gives you a gift. Thank you. Thank you. That's right. So that's what we start saying, just praise the Lord and as we say in praise moves fitness ministry. Remember, praise moves God deeply. So keep praising the Lord. I actually read a very interesting piece of litre the other day online.

Which said, why would a perfect being like God need praise and worship? And the answer, the short answer is he doesn't. The reason he puts it into the Bible in our lives is because when you are worshiping something, you gravitate towards it. You may have noticed this in your personal life. You may talk more like the YouTubers, you listen to more the podcasters, you spend more time indulging and you may dress and act more like a certain celebrity you put forward.

If you're. What you worship is your car, right? You're gonna spend more time going to car washes and learning car stuff and getting money to do so, right? Whatever you worship and and put up on a pedestal, you gravitate towards in your life. And so God says, worship me, praise me. That's again, is saying be like me and pursue righteousness in my word.

And so I think when you talk about. Praising God. It's, it's not just about him. It's about renewing our minds and our lives as well, our spirit. And so I think it's so important for people to remember that part. And that thanking and praising are two different things as well. It's, it's important to do both, and that could also be not just through your prayer life, maybe it's through your work, whether that's something, artwork or singing or dancing, whatever it is, the Lord can be praised in many ways, as long as it is aligned with the scripture.

And then, Dr. Loret, thank you for coming on the show today. We're gonna have your website and description below where people can check out a variety of different things. You mentioned weight loss without willpower coaching, the, the praise movements. I, I would love for you to just go a little bit over everything on your, your website, just a 30,000 foot overview so people kind of know what to check out and what they can find there.

Oh yes, certainly. Well, at praise moves.com we've been online actually since December, 2002, so we have a lot on there. We have free workouts also, we have certified Praise Moves, instructors all over the world, women and men. Or if you're interested in training to become a fitness minister, you can learn about that as well.

You have free workouts also, if you're saying, well, I wanna understand about what yoga really is, and, is it a peaceful practice or dangerous deception? You can see that on the website. And testimonies as well. Physical healing, emotional healing, people delivered from anxiety and panic attacks.

It's amazing. The wonderful things also that chiropractors and pain specialists have said about how praise moves has helped people. And then if you'd like to know about weight loss without willpower, I would suggest a free resource that I have. Christian Weight Loss. kit.com. That's a free mini course and guide.

And then also, if you wanna know, how do you meditate on scripture? Because is it emptying the mind like they do in Eastern mysticism? No. It's filling the mind with the word of God. You can go to Christian meditation kit.com. That's Christian meditation kit.com. It's totally free, and I show you three simple steps to meditate in a moment on the word of God.

Amen. Thank you so much for those free resources for us to check out and go through. I think it's really important to be educated and aware of these things, especially if you're someone. Even if you've never done yoga, I think it's important to look into that so that maybe you can be a mouthpiece of wisdom on God's behalf.

So you might encounter people in your life who are doing it, and now you're equipped to educate them as well. So please keep that in mind. And again, Dr. Loret, thank you so much for the work you're doing as you and I mentioned to each other before we started recording here. It is a, a tough mission.

We are held to a higher standard, and it is, it, it can be tiring, but it's very rewarding, to see even a, a single life saved, whether we see it in the flesh now, or it happens after we've passed, to know that God has used us and served us. I mentioned the end of Ecclesiastes, and what does it say?

It says, there is one purpose in life to praise and serve God. And so I appreciate you for doing that, and hopefully we have inspired others to do that as well. Amen. Christ in you, the hope of glory. Colossians 1 27. Hallelujah. I.