The Ultimate Tool For Postpartum Recovery & Care

Today, I sit down with Britnee Wheeler, founder of Rose Maternity Co., military spouse, and mother of five, to discuss the often-ignored reality of postpartum health and recovery. We explore why so much attention is placed on pregnancy and childbirth while the physical and emotional recovery of mothers after birth is frequently neglected. Ms. Wheeler shares how her own experiences navigating motherhood—often while her husband was deployed—revealed a serious gap in postpartum support. 

Ms. Wheeler walks through the development of her postpartum recovery underwear, a product designed to provide adjustable compression, mobility support, and integrated heating and cooling options for women recovering from both vaginal and C-section births. We discuss how standard hospital-issued postpartum supplies have remained virtually unchanged for generations, why dignity and comfort matter during recovery, and how thoughtful design can significantly improve a mother’s quality of life during the postpartum phase. 

Our conversation also covers entrepreneurship, patience, and timing—drawing parallels between pregnancy, labor, and building a business the right way. Ms. Wheeler explains the challenges of product development, sourcing, and intellectual property while balancing family life, and we close by discussing the future of Rose Maternity Co., including expanded women’s health solutions and menstrual care.

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Transcript

 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Couple nus. As always, I'm your host, Mr. Whiskey, and for those of you who don't know, on my website, I actually have a page dedicated to women's self and I also have resources. For any women who are considering abortion because they are in financial hardship or dealing with a lot of societal and family pressures, I actually have a free resource guide that helps navigate sources and laws that are set up to help provide funding for those of you who are in crisis because of that, and so I definitely encourage you to check that out, and I say all that on the topic of today, we will be focusing on pregnancy and motherhood, specifically postpartum health.

For those of you who don't know what that word means, we're gonna get into that today. 'cause I know not everyone is familiar with that word, especially if you don't work in the field of pregnancy. But it is a very important and difficult phase of post pregnancy and it's often neglected. A lot of people focus on health during pregnancy and then during the actual birth, but there are a lot of changes to the female body that happened after birth.

That get neglected. And we have a guest here today who saw that and actually created a product to help with that entire process, which can be very difficult. So super excited to get into this conversation and hopefully help a lot of people out there. This isn't just for the women. If you are a man, this is a great gift or item to get.

This could be your push gift, nowadays we've asked for a push gift. This could be the perfect push gift. It might be a bit insulting. Actually. You should probably get something else. Besides it, but Ms. Brittany Wheeler, so great to have you here and I'm excited to get into our conversation today.

I am, and thank you again for having me, but I'm super excited to get into the convo as well. And could you go ahead and tell us a little bit about yourself, especially what got you into this field of work? Yeah, absolutely. So again, my name is Brittany Wheeler. I'm the founder of Rose Maternity Co. And not only, am I an entrepreneur, but a full-time working military spouse, but I'm also a mother of five.

So I have five little babies. I call them my deployment babies because every time. My husband came back. We ended up with a, a new child, but he hasn't been deployed for a little while. So we are at five, but honestly, I just love, the family aspect. And also as I was having my children my husband was deployed, my first child, found out I was pregnant with her the day he deployed and he met his daughter two weeks after I had her.

So, during every child that I've had, there's been some period of time where I've been the sole, provider or person in the family just to kind of keep everything going. And what I noticed, especially working full time and just kind of. Taking care of kids and moving around after I delivered.

I lost mobility. I wasn't able to move around the way I needed to, and I found that if I, when I was moving, I would hold my stomach up just to kind of provide me with that support. But if I had more supportive undergarments, that can help me. Maintain my mobility and be able to be, comfortable.

I felt that I would have a better experience. So when I looked into the market, I didn't see what I needed and that is really what prompted me to create this product. So, just for reference I've created a postpartum recovery underwear, so it's. Underwear that you will put on that has customizable compression and it has a belly wrap that you can adjust to fit a mom or her meet her needs.

And even after a c-section, it has a pocket that you can insert an ice pack, you can have a ice pack or a heat pack just to provide you with what I call. My friend called it just like, coolers, right? It's like you put that little ice pack in there and it helps cool off the lady parts. And for my guys that may not know after you have a baby, everything just kind of stretches and it burns and all the things, and you need something to provide that support.

But the hospitals that give you these underwear that are not like a one size fit all, they're scratchy. They don't support anything. And I'll tell you, do not wanna like. It's just not something that you want after you deliver. And mind you, these supplies have been given to moms for centuries, right? The same underwear that your grandmother received when she had her baby, your wife or yourself will be receiving that standard care package.

So looking just to, provide that support to a mom and something that will help her feel. Better and have more dignity after she has her baby. So that's me in a nutshell and what I've created and just happy that this product has helped moms, including myself, feel better after they, after they deliver.

Yeah, I think it's amazing to have an actual product. 'cause I've seen a lot of internet hacks of women putting like five maxi pads together to make the super pad for, pregnancy or postpartum. And, and I've seen different life hacks like that. But to have an actual designated product that provides safe cooling and heating is, is super awesome.

And I'm curious. From the perspective of the military spouse were all your birth birthing processes done through the va or did you go civilian hospital because I'm just curious how that was VA side. Yeah, no, so I have, every child that I've had, we've had a military base, so I've always went to the military hospitals.

And of course, with the military, there are standard issue things that you would receive after you have your babies, but you can bring your own, and that's kind of like the space that I wanna help moms. Be able to supplement what they may not get in the hospitals. But, I think, my experiences, and we can talk about one of my experience in the military hospitals, but they've been positive.

I did have one experience where, you know, I I, it was my fifth baby and you're in Savannah, but prior to us being stationed in, in, savannah, we were stationed in North Carolina and I had a doula and I, I love her and I talk about her all the time. And with my fifth pregnancy, I'm in, the Columbus area and I, I call my doula, I say, Hey I'm going to the hospital filling some contractions, so I'm gonna go get checked out.

She's like, okay. So I called her back and I said, Hey, they sent me home. They said, I'm not far enough along, so they want me just. Of wait and come back. And she said They sent you home. And I said, yeah, they told me to go home. And she was like, they don't know. This is your fifth child. She said, don't you sit there at that house too long.

You're gonna up having that baby at home. So I'm just like, okay, gonna take a nap. I'll be fine. You know I can get back up. I called her back, I said, dors and. I said, I'm been laying around about to have this baby. She said, I knew it. And so, they sent me home twice. Honestly, it was two times that the hospital sent me home, the military hospital.

And I called her and I let her know I had the baby right there in my bedroom on the floor. And she said, I told you you were gonna have that baby on the floor. Right? And I knew you shouldn't have went home. But it's just kind of like, how do you prepare for those moments that you really don't know about?

And then when you do have those curve balls, what is it that you. I can help you as a mother, especially, you have this idea of how things are gonna go and they don't happen that way. So how do you, be able to pivot and, and still be able to pour into yourself when things don't quite go the way you think they are?

So, overall the experiences in the military hospital were positive. Had a couple, snafus I like to say, but overall, everything did end well. So, no real complaints there. Right. And now you have four. Children that are gonna be future military members and one civilian. So you kinda lucked out now you've got at least one civilian in the family.

So, yeah, because out, because our birth certificate says unin, unintentional home birth is what her birth certificate says. So it's not like it said, Hey, so she truly is from the home because her birth certificate. It just actually says, un unexpected home birth. And I'm like, wow. Of all things to put on her birth certificate.

So she'll live with that forever. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. It's not the worst title to have. We were talking the other day on the show, we were joking. This woman was talking about she was a failed foster cat mom. And what that meant was she ended up keeping all her cats. I said, don't ever say that about your children.

Yeah, I've got a couple failed foster children. Like keeping, she's not, yeah, doesn't mean what you think it means, but, yeah. No, I have to ask, ask. So you saw a hole in the market, you said, there's a product that I need that's not here, so I'm just gonna make it. How was that process of just, being a military spouse and a bomb saying, I'm gonna make a product, I'm gonna be an entrepreneur.

Right. That's how most entrepreneurism happens. It kind of just happens, right. Fall into, yeah, and there's a lot of research and learning curves, and I'm sure it took quite a while to really put everything together. How was that developmental process? Did you do it all by yourself or did you have to call some friends and be like, how do I do this?

So a little bit of both. Honestly, it was a hybrid approach, but you know, I said, Hey, I started looking like, okay, if I had this element and this element and maybe you know, a softer touch or more compression here, you kind of pull in those inspirational pieces that you say, Hey, I think if this were all in one.

This is. What I believe would be a great product, but I was very fortunate that one I only had, I had friends that I worked with to kind of help me, give me ideas. But I did have a team that I, I don't know how I got so blessed, but, just industry experts. That were great in like tech grading and the, the design.

They'll take your idea and they'll work with them. You say, yeah, I like this, but I was thinking more of that and just kind of take it outta your brain and put it into an actual sketch. And then from there, the sourcing, the sourcing takes time. It does take, efforts and you go through prototypes and you try to, tweak.

And all the things, but it does take time to go through to create an actual physical product and to bring it in and not only talk about a product, but now you're talking about, protecting that intellectual property and like what that looks like and you kind of fall into these things you never really knew.

So, in my training, all the boring legal paperwork stuff that you really don't want to deal with. But yeah, you learn about that. And by trade, I'm, I work in hr, so I, I understand how to help business leaders achieve their goals, be it on the other side of things, and just kind of looking at the data and, and how do you find these people and, and all, it's just like a whole different muscle.

And then, not to mention, you gotta take kids to soccer practice. You gotta do all like the things and you're still trying to bring something to the forefront, right? So, it's been a, a long journey. I'm happy to say we're in a great place now to where we have, a viable product that's actually working and is needed in the market.

But, right. It's just more so, just remaining. Hopeful and positive as you, as you go through it, because it's not an overnight thing. You don't just say, Hey, I got something, and people automatically know about it. You think, okay, yeah, I'm gonna go where and I'm gonna sell it. But no, you gotta find the people and then, build a relationship and it does take time.

So, and you end up on podcasts. Right? Exactly. So you gotta go where the people are that wanna learn more about it and, and be able to serve them in a meaningful way. So, yeah. So yeah. And I know you must, do a face palm sometimes. Like why didn't think of this after the first kid I waited until five kids after, like, I could have been using these this whole time.

I agree. And then like, when I finally was able to use it, I'm like, well this really is a, like, I'm, I can't, I can't honestly say that I've used my own product with my children and then it's like. Okay. Like, this does make sense and it works, and I can actually stand behind it because I used it and I know that it's a, it's a great tool to have.

So that's, that's also, the timing. You wanna rush things, but everything happens when it's supposed to because if I had just kind of threw it out there, you. Right. I couldn't say that I, can stand behind it because I would've just, wouldn't have had a, a quality product. So everything happens in its own timing and I've been fortunate to be able to use it firsthand.

So that's been pretty great. Right? And if your husband goes on deployment again, you'll get to use it again. So that's, if not number six. Like, goodness. But, but yeah, so that's a whole nother story. But honestly, we, definitely, and my kids, I can say they're not your typical kids, with the military, you just, you kind of like develop this extra like.

Grit, but they have like a little lemonade stand one weekend, and I promise you through, like maybe I don't, I don't know, but the kids brought in like $700 in lemonade stand. So it's just like they have that entrepreneurial drive. And they'll even ask me, did you sell anything today?

Or do we have packages to drop off? And they're always pushing me to like, go out and do better. So, so I, I do appreciate those, those little people. That is awesome. And then the branding, obviously you've got a lot of the, the pink and purple and blue colors in the rose design. What was kind of the inspiration behind that branding approach?

So I will say my grandmother, her name was Rosemary and I also had a grand, my grandma Ethel, she was like a, a hard worker entrepreneur since, since before time she was a cosmetologist and she had a, a shop in her home. So I saw, hard work. And then my, my grandmother Rose, she was just so nurturing, so loving.

And when COVID hit, I actually lost both of my grandmothers two weeks apart. Right. So, just having children and, and wanting to find a way that I could honor them, this was kind of my tribute to my grandmother to have the rose, but then also the business behind it and, and getting things, out there and done is like that tribute to my, my grandma Ethel.

But the rose is. Again for my grandmother that I lost my grandma Rose. And then just having the business, I just kind of honor my grandma, Ethel. But honestly, that's the, the drive behind the rose and the branding there and pick and purple just looks cute and I really liked it.

Right out very well. Yeah. Yeah. And pregnancy is kind of like a rose. It's something very beautiful, but it kind of hurts along the way too, right? It has the thorns and, and that's motherhood, thorn. And also just, just as you. Go into that journey from a young girl until you, go through your hysterectomies.

I'll say that. Even with this product, I have helped my coworker who had a hysterectomy and she was just like, I can't get a good night's sleep because I had this hysterectomy in my stomach hurts. And I, I found myself trying to hold my stomach at night and said, well, let me give you a pair of my underwear and not my underwear, but the underwear and let me know what you think.

And she was like, my mom is so. Like, and all of you, how do you have all these kids and then have time to make underwear? And she was like, she said, that was the first time she had a good night's sleep in like months, just by using the underwear. So, we look to help, moms and girls at all stages in, in, in their journey of womanhood.

So, that's kind of the, the thought behind the brand. Right. And it's you've helped me out because any baby shower or like party I'm going to for a pregnancy. This is going to be my goodie bag. I mean, honestly, and they appreciate that because everything at the baby shower is for the baby, right?

You're getting all this stuff and no one ever really stops to think about what can I do? I'm making the baby, I, I'm delivering the baby. I like, yeah. They like, okay girl, thanks. I'm gonna just get you everything you need for the baby. But that the mom, it goes a long way just to know that somebody thought about her.

In her recovery because you go to the hospital, you have a baby, they say, okay, mom, bring the baby back in 24 hours, but we'll see you in in six weeks. How, like, why? Like why would you wanna see the baby and not see the person that created it? And I just think we should have that same attention that the baby, would have as well, because that, that's important.

A hundred percent. And to me, six weeks sounds so far out because, you could have problems post pregnancy within, I honestly, I wouldn't want anyone leaving within the seven first 72 hours, 'cause it's it is a huge change to your body. Even, even for people who have given birth multiple times.

Every pregnancy is different. I'm sure you can testify every single kid probably. Gave you a different level of difficulty, some more than others, but we don't, you don't hold it against them, right? I try not to, but I just look at 'em sometimes. I'm like, girl, you got a big old head. And I just kind of have flashbacks, yes. The head, and I've heard, I've heard a lot of shoulders, broad shoulder babies that kind of get stuck and stuff like that. So. I, I've heard stories like that. Yeah. So I got one in particular. I'm just looking at her some days. I'm like, yo head is so big. And they have like flashbacks, but yeah.

Yeah. That's, that's awesome. And then your kids are prepared too for if, if they ever get pregnant and give birth if they already know. Mom's got them covered, mom. And, and what's so fun about this, and I'll say two things and then we can talk about something else, but one, if they see a teacher in their school that's having a baby and they'll come home, they'll say, mommy, I need to put a package together for Miss Ashanti and I need to do all the things.

And they'll go downstairs and they'll pack her in a package herself and, and set it up so they're actually gifting. And I don't mind, I they gift to their teachers and, and see, oh, they're having a baby. You need these underwear, kind of thing. But then, also, we're also gonna use these underwear and we're kind of in the development stage to create period care.

So we'll use that same technology and have a pocket that'll have a heating pack. So like my daughters are getting of age where they'll start to get their menstrual cycles and, well, I won't say, but as a child, when you're in school and you're trying to navigate, you have your cycle and you get accidents and all the things, I want my daughters to be able to have a, a heating pack that they can, discreetly.

Take care of their cramps and still be able to play with their friends. And the idea behind this is that when my daughters become of age, I'll have something that they can use to help them recover from their menstrual cycle pains. And then as they, mature mommy has the postpartum, whatever else he needs.

So that's kind of the next phase of, rose Maternity Co. Is, is helping, teens be able to recover from, menstrual cycle. But ideally we just wanna help. Manage pain at all stages of womanhood. Right. Right. And eventually you'll have the lingerie edition look good and feel good.

Right? I agree. I had, it's so funny you say that, but I had a friend the other day. I showed him the, the period underwear. We're mutual, mutual friends. So I'm friends with the husband and wife, and so is my husband. So we're all like a couple of friends. And he said, so what is this in? What, what is it in for me?

Like, how could I look at this as a husband and want, to be more, we're like we hope you're not, because those are for period panties. We'll work on that later, but I, I get what you're saying, so we'll, we'll get there. Right, right. The now one thing I do wanna mention is. Because these are specially designed underwear.

Is there any particular steps in the, the washing process that are different? Or is it just like regular clothes you can just wash them and dry them like regular underwear? So ideally I would. Prefer, like you hand wash it and just kind of line dry just to keep the the integrity of the underwear.

But I know as moms sometimes we do, we just gotta keep going. But you know, for me, I put them in a just like a wash bag and put them inside the washer if I need to, like get a quick, recycle. But ideally you would have more than one, so that way you can just make sure that they last. But, typically a good hand wash and hang 'em up, it's just fine. But if you're on the go and you have to move, I just recommend that you put them in that wash bag and then, wash 'em on a gentle cycle. For those of us who like to do the inside out trick, does the heating pad still go in on the inside or the outside?

Well, it, it goes, it's the front panel that it slides into the, the inside, but and I can grab the underwear and I'll just kind of show you, but honestly. It works. You can turn it inside out. There won't be anything that will harm it to, per se, just based on the way that they're constructed.

Yeah. You shouldn't wear your underwear inside out, but if you do No, we, we've already thought of that. Yeah. No, no. Don't prepared for don't wear 'em inside out. Yeah. But wash, you can wash 'em inside out, but don't, don't wear 'em inside out. Right, right. But hey, sometimes you, you've got too many soccer games in the week, so, oh my goodness. So that's the case. Just go ahead and lay down. Take a little nap, because Yeah, gentlemen, buy more than one pair so you don't have to. Because you're gonna experience the inside out too, yeah. So, and then I know you've got some other products as well, such as the Mommy Glow oil on your website.

Can you tell us a little bit about that as well? Yeah, for sure. So like those products, just the self-care products are really just there. So moms can kind of. Rejuvenate refresh, and it's more so just to provide, just gentle cleansing and then also just have that fresh layer of just moisture, because as we're moving we just wanna be able to just kind of relax.

So it's just the smaller things that are just helpful to have a mom insert their self-care. So that's truly just the idea behind, we have a. And all over soap a bal. We have a nipple cream, we have the oil and in every everyday lotion. And it's just more so just as moms sometimes we're always on the go, but it's just the small thoughts that will help us be able to insert that self-care.

For sure. And then alongside with that in addition to your products, what postpartum advice would you give for any mothers or their partners? So I tell this to, pretty much all moms that ask me, start planning for your postpartum before the baby arrives. Because typically we put more for more focus into, baby showers and I wanna have this car seat and that car seat.

But you know. My focus is always, when the baby comes, how am I gonna navigate? If it's like, Hey, I wanna cater some meals, I'll cater like two weeks of meals so that way I don't have to cook, as much. Or even if my mom is coming in town, she'll have food that's available that she can feed the kids and not have to go and like really, cook. And I even do that when I go out of town. Like I'll cater some meals just to make sure the kids are taken care of and whoever's helping, take care of the kids in my absence, have everything they need, they need. But if you're gonna put your babies in daycare, look for daycares early, get on the waiting list and truly vet out where you want your kids to go.

Even dog care. I, we had, that's a whole nother story. We had three rot wallers at one time. Don't ask me how, don't ask me why. And five kids, woo. It was like. They were like a little gang gang, like they just went around and just kind of, they were just in their own little world. But I had dog care, so if I had someone that wanted to, come over, they took care of my dogs for me.

So that was one less thing I had to do, but just trying to really peel back the onion to make sure that when I do deliver, I'm able to really focus on what matters, and that's my recovery. Right, and then that everything else has a place and it's kind of like still running, even if I'm not at a hundred percent.

So my advice to moms is, one, prepare for postpartum early, whether that's getting, catering, figuring out what type of services you can do, get the doula or even postpartum recovery underwear, prepare for those things in advance so that way when the time comes, you're able to relax.

Yeah, and if you're looking for postpartum underwear, not a shameless plug, but rose maternity go, you might wanna look into the, specifically, but yeah. And for me, I know at least my personal approach, and I, I recommend everyone do this, is whatever the average postpartum recovery time is, I would plan for an additional two weeks just as a backup because everyone's different.

You might recover in half the time, which is awesome. Great for you. If you, if you do some of y'all might. Be a slower recovery. That's everything in life. So I would always plan for just, just, for whatever could go wrong, so I think that's super important to look into as well. And what advice would you give entrepreneurial side wise as well?

Obviously you've got multiple products going on, you've got. Young hustlers in the house that have been inspired by you, you've got your whole process that you've been through. What would you say were some of the hardships or unexpected difficulties that people should look into or avoid? Yeah, absolutely.

So in the same spirit of like delivering a baby, just think about your business as, delivering, right? You have to go through the process of, your baby is developing, whether your business is developing, you're putting things in the right process, and it does not happen overnight. It takes time to ensure that everything is where it needs to be and, and it again, with.

Business, everything's not gonna be perfect, right? Everything's not gonna be, it's not gonna fall in the way or in the time in which you want it to do, but it's, it's like labor. It takes time. And when you get to a certain point and you're, you're ready to like birth this development or this business, you're going through the labor, you're going through the pain, you're going through the, the process of.

Putting this into legal patents, everything you're going through, everything to put this in a, in the market, and, and you get to a point, even in delivery where your baby is coming out. Like it's, it's almost there. And it's like you're crowning, right? It is like it burns, it hurts, and you just, you don't know what to do.

But it's like you still have to push through, right? You still have to bear down, and. Deliver what you need to, but also just keeping in mind that it's a process. It takes time. Be gentle on yourself. Be gentle when you're going through this process and find ways or people that will help you along the way, just as you would with delivery.

And even after, and before. But you know, honestly, just. There's, there's gonna come a point in your business where it is gonna get tough and it's not gonna feel the best, but just keep, keep the faith. Just know it takes time and just continue to push and, and it'll, it'll get there. One of the things you hit upon, which is so important, is the timing in rushing.

And as someone who has. Rushed projects before. I completely understand. As any entrepreneur, once you have that idea in your head, you want to see it as a tangible product or image or whatever it is right away. Mm-hmm. And a lot of people do that with podcasts, with books, with art projects, or whatever it may be product wise is.

End up rushing, taking shortcuts, or not waiting the proper amount of time because we're so excited. But you know, first time quality impression is so important. Actually, the Navy has a saying, slow is smooth. Smooth is fast. Mm-hmm. And what that hints to is when you rush through a project or trying to do maintenance or some kind of whatever it may be, you end up making more mistakes or having to restart.

That takes up so much more time than if you had just taken the time to do it right the first time. So first time quality impression again, I get it. I've, I, if I have a book idea, it's like I wanna rush it and sometimes, I've had God literally take me back and say, wait, there are more chapters to this.

This is more in depth than you realize. I actually have books that I have to rewrite because I, I rushed through it. I was so hot to tro to publish it, and I was like, oh man, I, I made a mistake or I didn't. Fully develop it. Like I should have, it, it does take time. I'm sure pregnant women are like, just want the baby out now, but you gotta wait however many months it is to you.

Do you know, for them to develop. And same with the entrepreneurial process. And so that's, I 100% agree. You gotta be patient and you gotta do your research. I've made a mistake of not fully researching everything and finding out there. Were ways to do things a lot more easily than I did. I made things more difficult on myself by accident, by not researching and not talking to people who had already done it.

Which is a important thing to do. Like you've mentioned, having some industry insights and contacts, talking to people who know the industry who can help you out. It's so important. I know as entrepreneurs we. We're pretty independent and a little entitled and want, to do everything ourselves, to be, the entire show, the jack of all trades.

But getting insights from other people can significantly boost whatever product or service you're providing and ultimately that is for the better. So patience is definitely something that entrepreneurs lack and need. And if you don't wanna listen to me, you'll find out the hard way. Like I said, I've been through it.

I've had to redo projects and. There's a lot of people who actually give up because they rather just give up than redo the project. Mm. And so, mm-hmm. Avoid that at all costs. So I will say, you said a couple things in that I wanna just kind of highlight. Yes, you will make mistakes. Yes, you will rush. You wanna put something out there that, like he said, God might have told you, Hey, along the way, right?

Hey, this isn't it. You, you kind of like ignoring the signs and kind of moving forward, but at the end of everything, there's a lesson in it, right? So there is something to learn. So, I'm sorry, is there's something to learn from each mistake. From each, rush projects, from, from every opportunity or even from people.

So, take the time, just kind of sit back and review like in the Army after action reviews, like what happened, what went wrong, what went right? So that way when you're moving through the next phase, you're able to avoid some of those mistakes or continue to repeat those things that are, value added.

So with. With all of that, you're gonna have those moments, but still take the time to reflect and then, pivot as you need to. Right. And then everyone, I just wanna let you know that we're gonna have Ms. Wheeler's website in the description below. That's rose maternity code.com, where you can find the shop, the about the blocks, and the contact as well.

So a ton of great resources and information on there in addition to the products themselves. And then Ms. Wheeler, I just wanna thank you. For what you do for your time today? I think this is really important. I think a lot of, unfortunately women's pregnancy health is neglected. We, in, in general in our society, we have a lack of respect and value for human life and for the.

Birthing process and for pregnancy. In fact, it's been villainized in a, in a lot of our culture and pregnancy has been taken very lightly with, and just sex in general. And there's a lot of unexpected pregnancies and hopefully this is something that can help alleviate the stress of that. Like I mentioned, it's a very chaotic time and so.

I very thankful for what you do for, creating a product to help support these mothers post birth, where a lot of them, like I said, people are so focused on the, the before and the during and not the after. So I really appreciate you taking the time to create this, and I'm very excited to see.

How this expands, especially into the young women's menstrual health. That's really important and I, for those of you who want to learn more about that, I've actually done a couple episodes on holistic healing for menstruation regulation and period parties and other stuff like that. So those will be in the description below as well.

A ton of great resources there. But Ms. Wheeler, thank you so much for coming on the show today. Thank you and thank you for this platform because this is needed, the conversations are very va, very value added, and you, you're feeling a, a great space. So we appreciate you too. Thank you. And, and a lot of this stuff is considered taboo or, has been, especially with men in particular hosting conversations like this or having these conversations.

I think most men don't even talk to their pregnant wives about this kind of stuff. So I think it's important that we are educated. I, I think, we've lost a lot of education in America and we need to stay educated and know that education. And taboo subjects sometimes overlap, but there is a way to have those conversations that is respectful and not, overly sexualized or, or vulgar.

Right. You can talk about pregnancy and sex in periods in a respectful way that is educational. So I, that's part of the reason why I do this, to have those platforms available because they're not very available, so. Great. Well, I appreciate you and thank you again.