Sneaky Bait Modificiations with Taku Ito

On today's episode we are joined by Bassmaster Elite Series pro and Japanese angler - Takumi Ito! We talk bass fishing cultural learnings, bait modifications and so much more.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:20

Alright, welcome to the Sears Angler Podcast, where as always we'll be talking and hopefully teaching you more about bass fishing. Obviously, you can tell audio is not the same or as crisp as we are when we were in studio. That is because I'm currently on the road. As always, guys, I'm your host, Bailey Eigbra, and uh we are currently on the road embarking in our 19-hour drive from Texas back to New York, and it has been a whirlwind of travel and tournament week this past week, and we were not able to get a new episode up uh or recorded, I should say, last week for this week. So, what we've been doing, obviously, if you've noticed, if you've kept up with all the shows, is we've had some amazing podcasts over the past couple years where I'm gonna take some old ones and bring them back to the front and center for all of our new listeners, so you guys can either listen to it again in case you missed something, or for our new listeners, you can listen to an episode that we did in the past that was really awesome, and I don't want you to miss it. Um, basically, that is my excuse for saying we did not get a shot this week, but wanted to still post something for you guys uh to be able to learn from, go back and and listen to some of the amazing guests that we've had. And so, with that, today's guest is an episode, I think, from two or three years ago, and that is some sneaky bait modifications with Takumi Ito. Obviously, a fun conversation with Taku, um, but also he dives into some some sneaky stuff. He doesn't give up all of it, but he gives some sneaky little juicy segments here and there. We have a good time chatting with him. So, apologies on not getting a new and fresh episode out this week. I'm gonna get back. Um, we're gonna try to get one out for next week because I literally get home, have a couple days to get all of my editing done and things like that, all my work stuff to do, being that we've been on the water for nine days straight, which I'm not complaining about by any means, but I certainly did not take enough time uh to get as much work done as I should have because I was too consumed with trying to catch bass. A problem we all share, right? But with that being said, Louie, who's the uh the host of kayak fishing weekly here at the Sirius Angler Network, will be coming up north this weekend. Alex Rudd will be coming up north this weekend, and we will be on the water for six days straight next week. So it is gonna be a whirlwind. Um, and we'll dive into all that on a new show. But I'm thinking we might have an in-person podcast next week with those guys. You'll have like a little road studio action. Uh, we might bring in a guest, or it might just be the three of us. We'll figure that out. But either way, some awesome stuff coming up. Apologies for not getting a new fresh episode out this week, but wanted to give you guys at least something to consume on the Serious Thing with the podcast for this week. So that being said, I got 17 hours left of my 19-hour drive. I pulled off to here to uh I gotta record a someone else's podcast while I'm working on getting this one up for you guys too. So this is the uh the content creator life. You guys are amazing, appreciate y'all, and enjoy today's episode with Takumi Ito. Takumi Ito.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

What's going on, Taku? Good evening, hey good evening, good evening, and Taku.

SPEAKER_02 3:23

Getting ready for Toledo Ben next week?

SPEAKER_00 3:26

Yes, I'm ready. I'm ready. So today I organized fishing taco, and uh tomorrow I will fish in uh it's cross uh rake and uh old check fishing boats, uh fishing graph is okay or no, so I will try to check tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Nice loosen up all the loose ends and make sure everything's working appropriately. Got it, nice.

SPEAKER_02 3:54

Yeah. Any uh any big changes for you going into this season?

SPEAKER_00 4:00

Uh not so much, but uh this year the uh so I try to use uh uh Gummin 86 16 graph is the front is a two. So last year is just a one and uh or 12 inches, but this year I changed uh 16 inches two in the front.

SPEAKER_02 4:25

Oh dang, okay. You got two 16s, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:28

So heavy, too heavy. I am sure that's wild.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

So, Taku, before we get into that more, uh, for everyone that's like yourself, your first time on our show, yeah. We like to throw it back to your very beginning of how you got started bass fishing. And we love to know the story of who's at fault for Taku's lifelong obsession with bass fishing. Uh, what's the story of how you got into fishing in the first place?

SPEAKER_00 5:01

Oh yeah, so what's the story? So I I fish so starting a fishing, right? Yes, so yeah, my dad, my uh so I think I six years old or seven years old. I my my dad bought uh uh fishing video game, so and uh I pray every day. So I have never catch a bus so six seven years old, but uh I every day play in a video game, so and uh I talked to my dad, so I wanted to fishing, I wanted to bass fishing, so and uh I try to not very cross in the river, but Japan is very, very hard. So it's uh two years I try fishing, two years fishing, fishing, and uh finally I got it then the bus bait. So and and now so and uh I fish in the every week, bicycle, sometimes my dad, so fishing with and uh I ran to the bass fishing.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

I love it. When when did you decide that you wanted to come to America to fish tournaments?

SPEAKER_00 6:17

Uh seven years old, I decided because uh right away, yeah. Video stage is uh America. I think the American game, so bass super breakfast 2. Super Breakfast 2 is an American game, I think. Many so some Hummingbird sponsor, Back Ray sponsor. So I've learned in the bass fishing the video game that I so I know so bass is US uh its biggest so uh biggest tournament. So I want to go to the US. So I think the seven years old I decided.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

That's awesome, man.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

Lifelong dream, yes, yes, yes. Now dream comfortable, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

So being in the states now for a couple years, what has been the biggest cultural difference from Japan to America for you?

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Oh, so big difference uh culture, right? So bad fishing, yes. Uh so Japan is a many many people fish in a bank. Bank fishing is very famous because uh Japan is a very narrow road, narrow, it's uh so hard to tow in the bathroom, and uh everyone don't have uh parking spot in the board, so and uh everyone so easy to fish in is a bank. Uh so I always fish in the bank fishing too, but uh I think the tackle is 16 years old. Uh my dad bought uh sketerboat, and I learned uh bassboat fishing, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:18

That's awesome, yeah. So the boat ramps in Japan aren't very big.

SPEAKER_00 8:26

No boat run, very hard to find, no boat run. Wow, yeah, no, nothing, so it's so hard to find a boat ramp, and uh uh uh almost all cannot use it, like a chang, and uh very hard to use. I think it's so hard to find uh uh at a few, but US everywhere boat ramp, everywhere uh less room, boat ramp, many kind uh uh so water like uh jet ski fountain boat, but Japan is uh nothing, or also bank fishing, but many uh Japanese fishermen love bass, so largemouth bass, uh so many baits, release, many kind of finesse techniques. So because of many Japanese bank fishermen try to fishing now.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

What is uh with with that when you're talking about finesse techniques and fishing from the bank, what has been the the biggest thing you've learned from growing up in Japan that you've used now in the States that has helped you?

SPEAKER_00 9:49

Uh I think uh bank fishing is uh so much pressure and uh fish right there, but very, very hard to get on the bite. The last year is uh, so example, the one day fishing and one one so two pounder, one pounder, it's okay, very good. Some some guys uh one week fishing or one or two couple fish only, it's so hard to get on the bite. Uh everyone thinking uh more finesse, more different bait, and more leak and more techniques, everyone so thinking and uh try to uh more catch. Everyone's thinking that so new baits always release now Japan. And uh everyone don't have a boat boat, but uh lent boat is uh pretty famous, so everyone have a trolling motor and uh big graph and uh get uh and drive in a car, and uh, everyone lent a 12-foot small boat and put on own trolling motor and the huge graph and uh lithium battery on it and uh fishing. It's letter boat is a pretty uh famous in Japan. So yeah, on boat bass boats, so load is too narrow, not so many people. Lake Viva, Lake Viva only, I think.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

Is there are there anglers in Japan taking live scope to those little boats?

SPEAKER_00 11:37

Yes, yes, a lot, a lot. So it's pretty crazy. 12 foot, very light FRP bolt, and uh put on uh 36 bolt touring motor like uh Ultrax Motor Guide, PowerPo, Lawrence, and uh everyone cut on a 32 inches, very small touring motor, but put on uh so lithium battery and very fast touring motor only, no use uh engine, almost all small leg, no use and it cannot use engine, so everyone put on uh touring motor on it. Some people with a full touring motor and a one, two, three, four, and a very fast. Yeah, so some people with a four-touring motor on it.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

Wow, yeah, crazy crazy. I feel like if you had one 36-volt trolling motor system on the front of like a 12 to 14 foot boat, if you turned too fast left or right, there might be like a simple accident of falling in the water.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Yeah, everyone falling, everyone falling, yeah. So uh, like uh, I have never fall fall, but uh many people is a fall, many people rust on uh fishing rod, fishing reel, big graph, lichum battery. It's a pretty dangerous, but everyone does that.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

Everyone takes a drink.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 13:14

Yeah, oh man, so as soon as you said that, my mind was like, somebody is definitely falling in the water a time or two. But I'm glad to hear that you are not one of the victims, so yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

I have to have a fall.

SPEAKER_02 13:29

So, Taku, we have a question uh from someone watching this live, and they're asking, do you think that there's still a world record bass in Lake Biwa?

SPEAKER_00 13:40

Uh, I think I think so. Uh because uh Lake Biva is so deep, and uh many huge bass. It's so hard to get on the bite now with too much pressure, but still huge bass. Uh Lake B in the Lake Beaver. Uh everyone tried uh world record, but uh so too much too much smart big fish, yeah. So like uh I think everyone tried that, but it's so hard. It's a hard game. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Is there a lake here in America that you think is most similar to Lake Biwa?

SPEAKER_00 14:28

I think uh Gunthasbill is uh pretty similar, grass, many grass, like a big fish. Yes, but Lake Bewa is a more uh uh lake, so Gunther's beer is a pretty river, liver system, and uh but uh Lake Biwa is a more big, huge, like uh uh it'd be more like similar to a glacial lake that we have up in the north that doesn't have uh a dam impoundment on it.

SPEAKER_01 15:02

Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

Do you have like a favorite lake so far here in America that you like to go and fish?

SPEAKER_00 15:11

Uh I like uh Georgia, the Kata's Lake, you know. So Kata's rake is a very deep, very deep, 600 foot, so very deep, and uh clear water is uh so I like that every week. If I go back to Georgia, every time I fish in a katas rake and uh user I just go fishing.

SPEAKER_02 15:35

Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't say small mouth Disneyland.

SPEAKER_00 15:39

Oh, yes. So I want to I want to try to small mouse Disneyland, but uh so Samuch Kamaga is uh and uh Tennessee River is uh it's so different. Uh small mouse, uh like uh small mouse don't like a small bait, small mouse don't like uh Japanese baits, so I don't like uh tennis city the small mouse. So I I never tried. I like Noza. Yeah, I don't like Tennessee with a small mouse.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

That's awesome. So one of our recent shows we had on Maddie Wong, and Maddie was telling us how you and him got to go fishing. Yep, and one of the things he mentioned was that you like to, or what one of the things you did was you melted plastic onto one of your baits.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Oh small mouth, right? Small mouth secret. Oh, is it a secret? Are you allowed to tell us a little bit of what you do with that? So yeah, yeah. So I try every every every year I try to new sand, new material. I make in uh so Japan and uh Norris brands, so and I try to every every year I try to so different different bait. Last year I got the Saint Claire, the third place, uh like a blueberry and uh so easy to dry out bait, but small moss love it. I don't know why the small moss love blueberry's flavor, so I like blueberry every every day eat, and I like smell, so I try to cover to the blueberry smell and uh and uh easy to dry out, but very uh like uh food, uh like uh Japanese sushi bait. I always always say it's a Japanese sushi, but very delicious bait. I try too, and uh many, many small, many big small mouths bite it. Hmm, yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

So you eat it on the water while you're putting it on their your bait for smallmouth.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, I try that.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

That's awesome. Yes, uh so I've I've been curious with that with that powder, is that something you you get your bait wet and then you dunk in the powder and then you cast it?

SPEAKER_00 18:06

Yeah, or uh so package and uh into the mini powder and uh shaking and the using, so like uh uh like a fry, uh uh uh crappy fry, like a oh okay, yeah, like a batter. Yeah, battering your bait, yeah. Yes, so tournament is uh day two, day three, day four. The many bass see now bait, many bass pretty so scary. It's so hard. Sometimes it's very hard. Uh I use uh powder and the sand, blueberry sauce. I try to many kind of uh different smell bait. Uh sometimes easy to get a bite, but sometimes hard. Yeah. But I always change, change a lot. Many kind of four or five baits change and the cast try every time.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

So when you take one of your baits out of that powder, tip how long does that bait last with the powder usually?

SPEAKER_00 19:20

I think in the one hour. So I use every time I use and the one hour later, I put on uh powder and I get uh more tasty. So I try to, or I caught a bus and I change the bait every time. Yeah, once you catch a fish, yeah, yeah. Because uh so scent like uh it could get aqua and the gulp and uh many catch, so tastes so no sometimes no taste, or or so out, so right. I always change brand new one.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Uh yeah. Do you ever put the powder on a hard bait or only soft baits?

SPEAKER_00 20:06

Only soft bait. I have never tried the hard weight.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

I never know.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

I gotta ask you might have to make a special sauce to get that powder to stick to a hard bait.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Yes, yeah. I see. I hope uh I hope working, but I don't like hard weight a lot, so I always like a soft weight. So I'm no flipping, I'm not punching, frog, hard weight, never, no, nothing. I don't like it.

SPEAKER_02 20:39

Do you usually have more spinning rods on your boat deck than casting rods?

SPEAKER_00 20:44

Yes, small mouse is a spinning rod a lot, and large mouse too. So flipping, everyone flipping is uh like a braid and uh braid and flipping the cover, but I like a spinning rod flip, like a seven seven foot extra heavy and uh 30-pound braid and a 25 floor carbon leader. Sometimes I use it's easy for me, so bait casting is uh too much heavy for me. So I'm I'm no power, so I like spinning around.

SPEAKER_02 21:21

That's awesome. Yeah, so talking about that, one of the baits that we were super curious about, uh, more so me selfishly, I've always been curious about it. Um, was the Norris Tissan worm.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

Um and I'm curious from from your standpoint, uh how do you how do you rig that worm? Yeah, yeah, and where are you more likely to throw that to catch fish?

SPEAKER_00 21:49

Yeah, so T Son is uh like a so uh like a so different form. Uh I'd like uh this one is a nickel rig special nickel. Yeah, look like look like that. Uh is a yeah, I got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So ostethook is an upper side on it, and uh I usually put on a 316 or quarter owns heavyweight nickel weights on it and uh easy to yeah here is an offset foc on that I always two or and one oh heavy so like a Yugi Fuck the infini one one O or two oh I use and uh put on the head uh nail weight and uh 316 or quote on heavyweight easy to get in a cover easy to uh brush bar and uh I like uh offset hook hook set because uh uh like uh neck of sometimes miss so I don't like it I like offset hook so I try to deep brush bar and the cover radar bush dock every everywhere I use this one that's super intriguing uh I can speak for Andy and I that we're definitely buying these yeah yeah so neckle rig is uh it's so sometimes it's so hard to feel in the bottom but uh I always use a heavyweight easy everyone can feel in the bottom it's easy so Tison always use a heavyweight nickel now with the neckle weight that you're using do you have it all the way inserted inside of the plastic or do you use one of the ones that has like an exposed head on it so you have better contact on the bottom and feel yeah I like uh so little bits outside okay yeah and uh I like a long straight uh neckel weight yeah some weight is uh outside at the football form and a screw on it but T Sun is good to na like uh uh like uh so thin uh like a stick sticky like the the traditional long nail weight yes yes correct yeah okay do you have uh a favorite size or color I like green pumpkin a lot green pumpkin green pumpkin brew I love it heck yeah yeah uh definitely gonna be ordering a lot of these yeah for anybody that is tuning in live or that is listening after the fact I have it linked down below in the description you guys want to go to Omniafishing uh get some yourself as well as we have a discount code if you want to uh save some money on that as well um well going back taku talking about the different cultural bass fishing yeah yeah um is there anything you learned here in America that you've brought back to Japan yes so every time I try to run uh us fishing like a frog like a punching so because uh Japan no caba not so much kaba and uh frog is very hard to get about fish always scary so I always run to the US of American fishing in the fun time tournaments not so much but uh like uh tomorrow the fun day I always like uh American fishing crankbait vibration jackbait many kind of hard bait fishing so I try and I run and go back to Japan and I try to do that okay yeah yeah that makes sense um whether here in America or back in Japan do you ever dabble with uh saltwater fishing at all or any other species or has it always been about bass for you uh I'm not fishing the ocean so salt water but so every day I try to fish fish my song so my song both in the skirt and they go back in the house we go to the uh cob fishing like uh bass fishing road and the bass fishing reel on uh food food on uh bread like uh breakfast food bread and uh drifting and they get a bite and everything that's awesome yeah everything yeah taku is uh bass fishing professional but more cop professional taco is uh cop erita shit is uh ao y really yeah yeah yeah yeah that's awesome cop fishing professional uh on that is is you has your son showed any interest in getting into some of the bass fishing tournaments yeah yeah so my son wanna fish in uh bat my son wanna i he always say i want to get a bass but japan very hard to get bass so my son always come to the us we fish in the bass in japan no uh just uh cow fishing or uh farm pond many bass many like uh farm bus and easy to catch we try to get we go to the farm farm pond and a fishing that's awesome yeah that's the that's the best place that when they're they're really easy to catch yes yes very very easy small phone but hundreds yeah so yeah takio i don't uh i doubt you remember um uh there's actually probably no way you remember because i'm i'm in a kayak so it's really easy to not see me anywhere but i i what i ran into you i want to say a year and a half or two years ago on lake chickamaga when you were fishing with your son it was super cool to watch you teach him along and i you you brought it up so i figured i would mention it but was super cool watching you teach him how to fish and i'm pretty sure as young as he is he's way better than me already you you sold me right awesome awesome yeah wow yeah i always teach it so teaching him uh hopefully he won he score defined uh he fishing professional bass fisherman but i think it's so hard yeah yeah yeah so so we gotta be worried about him in about 10 years yeah yeah yeah so um yeah but i i think uh since seven years old the talk so before so i always use uh ten dollar the spinning reel ten dollar the spinning rod but my son uses already he used a stara spinning reel 900 dollar i i think no good i think no good so so always young boy young boy use uh cheap spinning reel cheap spinning rod round to fishing it's very important i think so tacos love that so taco's that taco is uh so i always rent out my taco i think no good yeah he needs two more cheapings cheap spinning reel cheap spin rod he has to learn the hard way to catch the hard mask i got it exactly that's awesome man no shortcuts yes yeah shelf shove cut no good that's awesome that's awesome we we do do we have time for another question bailey yeah we got an awesome question here from mj he wants to ask you how intimidating or scary it was going to like a full size bass boat and truck coming from Japan to America could you ask that how intimidating it was going to a full size bass boat coming from Japan like like traveling across the country yeah yeah so pretty hard so because very uh so Japan is a very small car six hundred cc is normal six hundred cc so but us uh like uh six thousand so big big motor and big uh big bus boat towing so pretty hard but I like uh driving I like uh driving so now I can drive uh one day the eight hundred yeah eight hundred mile it's okay towing the bus board but so first year second year every every day I try to long drive at 500 and 400 is the limit I always tired but uh I love us culture big so like a Chevy big big truck and a big boat I love so long time so I always look in uh everyone's vehicles I'm very happy oh Chevy Shirado oh oh yukon so I always happy it's awesome did it was it harder or easier to back your boat down the ramp coming to America from the smaller boats in Japan uh I think easy the US because of big wide road and the big ramp it's easy Japan the cray crazy small i i hate i hate i don't like toying the bus boat no good no good japan no good i need to more wide road so i wanna i wanna move the more countryside so japan so japan house i want to move now i try to find uh more countryside yeah do you have uh a boat back in japan too yeah yes yes so i have uh skita same one but too narrow road so i i think the whole year that i use a 10 time only because uh very hard so always throwing the bus boats just a tired it's so hard i want to go to move now more countryside more easy drive i love it i think bailey froze here so uh we're waiting for him to unfreeze up the back welcome back yeah that was weird my bad yeah you're you're stuck but we have another question here from uh Steve he wants to know what weight leader line do you use for smallmouth so the leader underneath the braid yes yes it's the important thing so sometimes i use a six pound like a cent grill many people can easy to find a small mouse everyone casts everyone casts a bait small mouse pretty tough day three day four is a pretty tough i sometimes use six pound fluorocarbon leader and more or no braid rhyme or fluorocarbon so straight fluorocarbon six or five i use japan small mouse uh highland rake small mouth fishing is famous everyone used uh two pound test or 1.75 pound test floor cable how big are the smallmouth in this lake i think the three pounder is a huge three pounder is huge yeah but almost two pound yeah two pounder but everyone use a two pound two pound test floor cable but there's no boat flipping a smallmouth at 1.75 pounds net everyone use a net yeah it's easy so 1.75 pound is uh easy to break so but fish so many pressure it's good thinner rhyme so like a japan uh you like a us is a six pound straight floral is a pretty uh finesse so uh fish don't like uh bread rind sound and the leader thicker three sound shake and uh sometimes sound don't like that i use uh six pound test flow cup on that it's so good yeah have you tried to experiment with like four pound or two pound here in america for the smallmouth or is it quite scary yeah I think scary five pound it's enough I think yeah five pounds or six pounds it's okay so yeah Lake Ontario St.

SPEAKER_02 36:12

Claire I always lead in a six pound five pound straight fluorocarbon and uh sometimes I use it yeah is there a preferred brand that you like to use like what is your favorite brand of fluorocarbon uh one one line only seagat yeah seagat only because uh signal rhyme is a very important strong rhyme expensive ring uh six pound five pound test fluorocarbon is a sea tatsu only I use are you a yeah tatto's great yeah um are you an FG knot guy yes a lot a lot fg not very important i think yes you've probably gotten very fast at tying it now now very fast but two years ago i couldn't do that but now i can do that very fast yeah did you learn the fg in japan or when you came here to uh us us uh kenta kimura is a boss master elite for the i learned to kenta so i told i he teaching me and uh i can do that now that's awesome do you travel with anybody else on the elite series no taco only taco always alone you just uh you go wrestle with maddie robertson and um now and then right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yes yes that was probably my favorite video uh of you getting thrown off the dock you and maddie trying to to wrestle um oh gosh who was it the guy from louisiana big dude trying to remember his name oh gosh lee livesy's buddy uh careb Sabro yeah caleb somewhere yeah yeah carab sabro yeah so i try to so push him but he's so strong so taku easy to so outside our water so too much too much next time so care here taku and matt robots on and the double and the he sees no out i tried to yeah this year the end of tournament uh central in three i try to fight him yeah yeah that's awesome oh so taku your time on the elite series or at least fishing in america besides your your win uh on the st lawrence river which was awesome is there a favorite moment that you've had fishing here in america yes exactly so like a dream like a dream uh i won i won uh central orange leave uh wardington new york so i i couldn't imagine to that but uh i won uh so it's most so happy the most so huge day for me heck yeah it's yeah looking at the schedule for this year is there one that you're excited about more than the others yeah yeah i'm excited uh central and sleeve is the most because uh wadington new york start it's uh hard to drive na uh lake two hour driving i want to try that i'd like uh lake ontario but some days strong winds it's so hard but i always i want to try yeah hard driving yeah two hour driving yeah i bet fishing on lake ontario you are glad that you had a lot of training with the 36 volt trolling motors and the little boats yes back home and hard pitch and turns yes yes yes yes i i'm very easy for me skitter is a more big more loomie yeah i always train the 12 food and the 36 volt big trolling motor it's easy for me yeah when uh we got one last question yep for you before we wrap up but before we do there's a a question from a viewer here which i think it is uh a cool dynamic to understand do you uh you know kenta koya other anglers from japan do you guys uh hang out with each other on the road is there any like communication do you guys travel from japan back here together what is that uh what is that dynamic like for you guys uh but not so much together traveling but still uh we we are the good friend but uh no share no information no not so travel not stay together not traveling together but still good uh good friend so and uh last year the fish in the masa masa is a very late series before but he's good friend too yeah japanese guy everyone good friend good friend but no share the information and uh no stay together i don't know why but yeah but that's good friend yes yeah who would you say uh for people that are listening or watching uh who is the the the next big name from japan that we should watch out for uh i say uh so you know the bass master opened the yui Aoki is uh this year he tried to fish in the bass open so I think he fishing only six years seven years only fishing he fishing but I think uh he is a world riboscope professional fisherman yeah he yeah he's not wrong uh fishing experience only in seven years so not so wrong but he ran he only focused on riboscope fishing so he's uh I think a very awesome riboscope fisherman in the world all right well we'll keep an eye out for him as well yeah that'll be cool cool to watch yeah uh Andy do you have anything left for Taku before we ask him our last question um no I think we can hit him with our last question this has been great thank you for your time yeah thank you very much yeah so Taku our our last question for you yep yep is if you could sit down with three different people and have dinner pick their brain maybe people you've never met before but you'd really love to talk to what three people would you invite they could be alive now they could be alive a thousand years ago they don't even have to be in fishing what three people uh would you love to sit down and have a dinner with and speak to oh so like an elite crew is okay yeah yeah they could be fishing they don't have to be fishing though it's up to you yeah so I wanna talk now uh gossi yeah gassi and the Cooper Garant and uh Gussie Cooperant Austin Phoenix or West Rogan yeah Austin Phoenix very very good friend

SPEAKER_00 44:20

And so in you, you're so my most big friend, so Austin Felix is always awesome. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 44:28

I like that. Did you say Wes Logan as well?

SPEAKER_00 44:31

Yeah, Wes Logan as well. Wes Logan always uh pretty hard to understand his English. So his English is so hard, but uh he's always a good guy. So I I I I like to talk and I I learned to English very we will tell him to work on it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so West Logan's English is pretty hard for me. That's awesome. So it's so hard.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

Well, Taku, I I have to say, from your rookie season here, um in America, you've gotten very good at English very fast.

SPEAKER_00 45:15

Oh, yes, thank you very much. Yes, yes, I learned to every day, so I learned to use uh I always use uh English, so every day, so now I can't I can talk English a little bit, yes.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

Yeah, hey, you can do a podcast, great, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:33

Oh, thank you very much.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

I appreciate it. Phenomenal, yeah. Like it's um it's incredible to see your growth in the English language, so yeah, among everything else that you have to learn while in America, right? Like it's it's a testament to your willingness to succeed. So I wish you the best of luck this year.

SPEAKER_02 45:58

Awesome. Well, Tacu, thank you so much for coming on the show and taking the time out. Uh, enjoy your fishing and good luck next week at Toledo Bend.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

Thank you very much. See you soon. All right, we'll talk to you soon, Taku.