Fishing New & Unique Baits Can Catch More Bass?

In this episode of the Serious Angler Podcast, we sit down with YouTube standout Blake Miller from  ⁨@BDBassin⁩   to dive into his strategy for stepping outside the traditional tackle box, explaining how experimenting with unique, unconventional baits and color patterns can trigger strikes from highly pressured bass that ignore standard presentations. We also pull back the curtain on the business of fishing, discussing the grind of the content creator lifestyle, what it really takes to grow an audience, and actionable strategies to succeed and stand out in the crowded 2026 fishing media landscape.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

All right, everyone. Welcome to the Sirius Angler Podcast. Where as always, our goal here is to be talking and hopefully teaching you more about bass fishing. We're back with Idaho's Finest, Mr. Adam Deakin. And as always, I'm your host, Bailey Ibread and Deke. You are, I say Idaho's finest, but you are not in Idaho right now.

SPEAKER_02 0:18

Am not, man. Down uh actually in Colorado working Memorial Day weekend, headed down, seeing the family a bit here, staying at the parents' house in Colorado because got a ranch listing in Colorado that we are shooting and filming and doing all the stuff on that is super cool. Um, so man, yeah. Trying to get a little of that done, and then I'm gonna rush back to get to Brownlee for the final day of off limits on uh Memorial Day, actually, in itself. So gonna fly back Sunday, rig some tackle, and get a last day of off limits, which then is a 30 or 31 day, whatever it is, off limits until the Super 60 there in June. I'm just so fired up for it. We've got a long ways to go out of it, but I'm gonna put one last final full day out there, see what I can.

SPEAKER_03 1:11

What is not to go down this too long, but like for your guys' format, obviously for people don't know, the Super 60 is you have what is it, yeah, the 30 or 31 day off limits, but there is zero practice before the event itself. So, like without giving away too much of your juice or secrets, like how do you pre-practice for that? Is it just a lot of looking and idle time just to trying to find areas to at least give you a starting point, or what does it look like?

SPEAKER_02 1:37

Yeah, 100%, man. It it's interesting, right? Like the it's burned me and helped me pre-practicing. Um, when you're pre-practicing 30 days out, you just really have to keep such an open mind when the actual event rolls around. So I'm just trying to think what those fish are gonna do, right? Like, I'm thinking way in advance here, like they're working their way into their summer pattern from the spawn. So, like, where are going to be the major kind of summer holes? And this is a you know, it's a river system and a lake, but primarily like it's it's a section of the snake river. So, like current plays a role, water coming in plays a role, the you know, just general, all of that stuff starts to be a factor, and it's a really big body of water. I mean, it's only I want to say it's almost 55 to 60 miles long. Um, so yeah, I'm just trying to keep an open mind as far as overall strategy with that. Like, find some areas that you think things are going to happen in, and then just honestly mark a lot on the graph. Like, I think it's as important your at-home graph study that you can still, of course, do outside of off limits. You just can't be on that body of water or get information. Um, but just marking as much of that as you can to like, okay, I'm gonna go run this. Um super fun format. I love it. I think there's I think there needs to be more series that do this because you show up and you have no idea what's happening, and it's more instinctual and just go and uh you gotta find them quick because these guys are are good and they find fish fast.

SPEAKER_03 3:12

Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, that's the nice part about what we have these days is it is definitely the easiest time in our lifetime thus far to do that research at home between you know the Omnia Pro app and some of the new features, which for folks tuning in, we have Chase Hall from Omnia Fishing um just kickstart this podcast. He's gonna be on for about 10 or so minutes talking about um some of the brand new features to the pro app. So if you guys use it or are looking to use it, you'll want to stay tuned for that because there's some pretty freaking sick things that they've added to the the current pro app to make that more advantageous. But also with the Humminbird One Boat Network app, you got Lake Master VX from your couch, which always is nice. It's always easy to transport your waypoints from couch to unit. But um, I'm sure it's a lot of that going on in your entire field. I know it's been that way for me for the past couple weeks. As we are recording this, I'll be on the water and uh hopefully finding fish on CNT Cooper uh and hopefully having a good time staying away from the gators. Um, but yeah, a lot a lot of that going on this time of year. We were in peak, peak bassin right now, uh getting into the summer months. But um awesome episode uh coming up today for you guys. Obviously, Chase first thing, but then we also have Blake from BD Bassin, a content creator. If you're not following him, uh you definitely should. Uh he's a guy from out from the Midwest, does some awesome content stuff. And uh what we really dive into is the theme of you hear us talking about it all the time of like, do I stay chalk with my baits and only run a certain amount of things, or should I experiment with different things? He basically uses a lot of different baits, but literally has a series of like I I bought this dumb stuff so that you don't have to, where he experiments with some wild, wacky looking, looking baits. Um, so it's we talk about that and the advantage of that. But um before we get into today's show, uh one thing that we want to take a quick moment to do is to um obviously as we're always open and honest with you guys, is uh let you guys know that um, you know, some of you may already notice within uh some past episodes and kind of the absence of it, but um Andy has moved on from the Sirius Angler crew. Uh and so we have we have parted ways uh with with Andy and just want to take a moment here to thank him for all of his his years of passion and his uh obviously his love for fishing is is very apparent when uh he's on here and talking about it. And uh thank him for all the the years he's contributed to the brand. So I I guess that with that Deke, like there's gonna be some changes here at Sirius Angler, there's gonna be some changes at Lure Lab, but uh wanted to be up front with everybody and keep them in the in the know of all the changes coming to the Sirius Angler Network down the road.

SPEAKER_02 6:00

Yeah, man, just uh I mean Andy has been, you know, instrumental in in Sirius Angler. We've had such a fun time, um, so many memories, so many laughs, all the all the great times with Andy, and and um, you know, can't uh under say enough about his passion in in the fishing space and and everything he's done with both Sirius Angler and Lure Lab and excited for the future, but uh certainly a nod to all that Andy has has done and uh wish him the absolute best in uh future endeavors.

SPEAKER_03 6:37

Yeah, yeah, definitely keep up with him. I'm sure he's got more stuff coming down the pipe. And obviously, if you guys are trying to get on some world-class smallmouth, uh hire him as a guide up here in Buffalo. Uh world class, world-class wings, but also world-class uh fishing with world-class dudes. So um wanted to fill you guys in on that. And uh man, like I said, we low key giants lately.

SPEAKER_02 7:01

Uh he taking Bridesmaid the last two derbs, was chatting with him a couple days ago here, and uh he is catching some seriously big fish. Uh trophy quality, we're talking like 30-pound-ish bags right now. So good time to go catch a legitimate Phoebe or a whole bunch of five and six pounders, which sounds like way too much fun. Anyways, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

Does not suck. Does not suck. Yeah. Well, as we get into today's show, uh, again, we'll start out with Chase from Omnia Fishing. As always, you guys can always use code series 10 over at Omnia Fishing on top of uh the pro membership, which by the way, Chase did mention in this show. We'll have a code, I think it's like series pro 26. Either way, we'll have it down in the show notes. But for Father's Day coming up, which is always a great time for fishing, as many of us, our stories and our beginnings in fishing start with with dad, grandpa, things like that. Uh, there's some pretty wicked deals you can get on a pro membership. I think it was like, I think if you add the $60 Omni a gift card to your cart, then add a pro membership to your cart, that pro membership becomes free, and then now it's $60 to go and use for whatever you want on the site. Uh so basically free pro membership. Um, so it's a cool deal. You'll get more of that uh specifics from Chase. But again, that all that's linked down below. And uh we have a crazy few weeks here between Deacon's travel, my travel, and so we'll be trying to get pod uh pods out for you guys best we can. Uh and you'll see some uh different things coming across the whole network. But um bear with us here as uh we don't have an updated industry updates or anything for you guys because as we record these, you know, in days consecutive, uh there's only so much industry happening in the fishing industry to uh kind of give you guys some news. But um Deke, anything else for the folks before we uh get into this sucker?

SPEAKER_02 9:00

Um no, man, just excited. Uh I think this is a great spin. You know, I I missed out on this specific episode as it relates um to just the content creation side. I I my point is I think it's it's really fun to see the perspective and the professionalism of of how this is all gone. I really like the idea of a series where you don't have to buy baits and learn all the stuff because we see it all the time. I mean, I spend way too much money on tackle than I'm like, this is junk, right? Or like I just never get around to like testing it, right? Um because he just stacks up. So if he's actually doing that, super, super cool, thins out the time frame of learning new stuff if you pay attention. So uh love it, man.

SPEAKER_03 9:47

Yeah, I got a whole wall of baits right now that I've bought thinking they look interesting and just never have tried them yet.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

So I have boxes, I literally have you know the big 3700 boxes, like the extra big ones that are like I have three of those in my boat that say Japanese special. Japanese special one, Japanese special two, Japanese special three. And I've like slowly messed around with a couple of the things, but I'm like, dude, I gotta start take a day and just only use those. There's a great piece of content.

SPEAKER_03 10:19

There you go. There you go. Now you're starting to think with a content creator. There you go. Heck yeah. Well, we have we have so many pros and experts on this podcast. We're really trying to get some more of the content creation folk on here. So if you guys have people that you love to follow, whether it's on Instagram or whatever platform or other people that specifically only live on the YouTube side of things, comment down below, send us an email, send us a DM. We'd love to get them on here. We've had a bunch of them on and we'd love to expand upon that as we always have a bunch of pros on. Um, but uh love seeing all sides of this amazing sport of bass fishing. But uh Deke, I think without further ado, we're gonna get into uh get into it with Chase from Omni A Fishing and get on to Blake from BD Bassing. All right, folks. Uh as we mentioned, we're starting off the pod today with our pal Chase from Omnia Fishing. And uh Chase, for the the folks that are listening and watching, we tried to run it back, and it was so much cooler when we had you on the water, uh chasing smallmouth and largemouth around whichever you were chasing, but you were bassing. We love having people on the water when they're bassing for the pods, but as technology goes these days, it said, Hold my beer.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

You guys thought you you thought you had something? Nope. I know it's always something like that. It would have been great out there too. It ended up being a such a nice day.

SPEAKER_03 11:33

Yeah, it looked gorgeous, a little cold, but uh, did you guys end up catching?

SPEAKER_00 11:38

We did. Um, I wouldn't say we absolutely smashed them by any means, but we got one over six, uh, a couple over five, so it was it was a fun day chasing smallmouth.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

Does not suck.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

No, it does not suck at all. It does not suck at all.

SPEAKER_03 11:52

Yeah. Well, uh, dude, obviously getting on here, we'll be talking about some Omnia Pro updates, things like that. But uh, I know we talked about it briefly the last time we tried to do this thing, but it was like for people this time of year, where does Omnia Pro become a heavy advantage of kind of planning out their day before they're like whether there's somebody that's gonna go fishing for the weekend, they want to distract themselves from work at the office or whatever, and they're trying to plan out their day for the weekend. Where's the advantage of using pro right now?

SPEAKER_00 12:22

So there's a few of them. Um, one thing, the big thing here in Minnesota, this is the first year that we have actually been able to chase bass year round. Uh, up until this year, we've always had a season um where we could not fish for bass until opening fishing day, which is usually around Mother's Day. Um, even a couple of years, and that was up until this year, a couple of years even prior to that, we couldn't fish till Memorial Day. So we have never really been able to get in on like the pre-spawn bite in Minnesota, unless you have a super cold spring or you could, you know, you travel way up north, they still get in on some of that pre-spawn stuff. But here around the Minneapolis area, we have never been able to really take advantage of that. So this year was super special. So there was actually a lot of features that I found myself using with the app. Um, the first one I was taking advantage of is the Lunker Potential. Um, this is somewhat restricted on states, but we do have it all the way from Minnesota to Florida, Texas. Uh, I know we have some up in the Northeast, but basically any of the states that uh go out and do surveys on their fisheries and then publish those survey results online, we're able to capture that data, put it in our app, and then you're able to do the lunker potential filter, which will filter out all the lakes and then just display the lakes in Minnesota that have surveyed largemouth bass or smallmouth bass over 20 inches. And so, especially that pre-spawn bite, everybody's you know chasing those big ones. So that's the first thing I'm looking at are those lunker potential lakes, um, those ones that have proven results of big fish in them.

SPEAKER_03 14:11

Yeah. And then once the whole state of Texas is just glowing with that.

SPEAKER_00 14:15

Yeah, no, Texas has got Florida, it's really cool. I've been even poking around some of the Florida stuff. Uh that's one of my bucket destinations. I'm sure everybody wants to go down there, but you know, love poking around at some of those little potholes that you've never heard of and be like, oh gosh, there's some there's some big fish in there.

SPEAKER_03 14:35

Hey, that's some juice for people right there. That's some that's some juice looking at that.

SPEAKER_00 14:39

Well, up until now, a lot of people, and they still talk about it, they go to the D the Minnesota DNR website, and you click lake by lake and have to click and look at the survey results and see if there's even one, even bass in the lake, and two, how big they are. This takes all that work out of it. It literally filters it right for you, and all of a sudden you've got purple pins. And especially in a state like Minnesota with 10,000 lakes, that cuts down your work load a lot. Yeah, and that's actually a purple crown symbol, too, isn't it? Yep, yep, yeah. Purple crown uh on the lake pin. Uh any of those purple crowns have lunker potential, and then you can filter the species. We've got it for walleyes, crappies, bluegill, um basically any of the freshwater sport fish. We've got the lunker potential. So that was yeah, that's the first thing I'm looking at right there. And that's actually free. You don't even need a pro subscription for that. There you go. Yeah. But then as far as pro features, um it's been cold up here. We've had a really cold up and down spring with wind like crazy. So the first thing I'm looking at is I'm actually looking at the temperature forecast for the couple days ahead. And then I'm looking at the wind direction layer. Um there hasn't been a single day where it's laid, except for when I was with you the the other day. Uh, that's been like the first day in the last two weeks where the wind has actually laid down. Otherwise, it's just it's complete clockwork. The wind is doing a complete 360 every day and it's blowing 15 to 25 at least, almost every single day.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

Sounds fun.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So combine that with cold. So I'm looking at the wind direction every day, whether it's the base where I'm gonna launch the boat on a lake like Millax, where you got to kind of really play the wind because there's nowhere to hide and the waves get big, right? Or if it's a small puddle, you know, it is the launch on a good side of the lake, or is it gonna be a nightmare? Right. And then the second thing, I'm kind of looking for those transition areas. So I'm flipping between that hard bottom layer and uh the contours a lot. Um, whether it's mud to sand or that sand to gravel, any of those transitions can be really killer this time of year. So I've been poking around that, especially lakes that I don't really know that well. Um, you find one with that lunk of potential, you want to drive up there for the day, you do a little studying with that hard bottom layer, and it it has played a lot of dividends.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

Yeah, a little bit more prepared going into it versus just throwing a dart at Google Maps and hoping for the best.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

Yeah, and even the small lakes, you know, you can scan them, and uh uh it doesn't take that long to scan them, but it's still it cuts down that time. You know what kind of right where to look right away.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

Right. Uh, quick question on that, especially now with Minnesota being able to fish the true spring. Um do you think we're gonna see some state records fall for you guys the next couple years?

SPEAKER_00 17:44

Uh you should see some of the bags people are posting on the websites. It's it's insane this spring. I mean, legitimate 34, 35 pound for the best fish, eight pound fish. Yeah, I I wouldn't be surprised to see a new record here in the in the next year or two.

SPEAKER_03 18:02

Say, because your guys' state record largemouth, I don't think it's even over nine, right?

SPEAKER_00 18:06

It's at like 8.14 or 8.15, and that's been standing for quite some time.

SPEAKER_03 18:12

Yeah. That'd be really cool to see that fall from this change. That would be pretty sick.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

Yeah. Or the amount of you know, 30 plus bags that people are posting on on uh Facebook and this and that. It's been it's been a really fun spring to see this kick off.

SPEAKER_03 18:28

It's bound to happen then.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

Yeah, people are taking full advantage of it.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

It's it's yes, they should. Yeah. Yeah. Uh because the uh what do they call it? The uh it's not cabin fever, is it? Is that the time? Yeah, cabin fever. They're crazy, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

Yeah, no, by by mid-February, we're all going nuts up here. We're ready to get the boats out. A lot of people are still getting the boats out even on the rivers and stuff. That's I'm not ready for that yet, but a lot of guys do it.

SPEAKER_03 18:59

Yeah, I feel like a lot of people from Minnesota that, you know, kind of the bass heads or walleye guys, like they're running to Iowa or you know, southern Wisconsin or something like that, just to start getting out on the water just because they can't take it anymore, which I don't blame them at all. I do the same thing here in New York, but yeah, um, yeah, and talking about the new features, man, there's some new stuff that dropped on on Pro.

SPEAKER_00 19:20

Well, that leads perfectly into the new features because us guys looking to get the heck out of here. Um, we just added a public lands layer all across the US. Um, so even if you don't have a boat or you your boat's stuck in storage and you're up north, you don't want to drag it through the salt, you can drive down and find places to fish now right on the Omnia app. Um, it lists all public lands that are completely non-restricted as well as restricted lands. Uh, the restricted lands are more your public hunting lands, waterfowl productions, things that do have some maybe seasonal restrictions to when you can enter them, but they're still technically public or government-owned.

unknown 20:00

Right.

SPEAKER_00 20:01

And then also the completely all open access lands, which has really been a great hit. Uh, we've gotten a lot of good feedback on that layer.

SPEAKER_03 20:11

Yeah. Uh I see big time for bank fishermen, especially. Um, I know we talked about it briefly too, but for kayak anglers from additional access standpoint, um, being able to launch, especially if you don't have like a unless you're like me with the crazy rig with the freaking trailer on it. You know, if you're just dragging, uh, that could be a big advantage too to seeing where you can actually access legally to get off the bank.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

I was just gonna any any angler who does not require a boat ramp, whether it's canoe, kayak, bank anglers, uh, stream anglers, all of these people have reached out saying how much they've loved this feature. Um, it just gives them all access to where they can get into the streams, where they can actually fish those streams. Here in the cities, we always get questions about you know, where can I go fishing locally? Where's a good you know, fishing lake? And nobody even realizes that we have five lakes right in Minneapolis itself that are all completely public land surrounded. You can fish the entire lake all the way around your shore, all five of them. And uh that shows that right on the map now. So you you pop that layer on and it's purple highlighted across the whole thing, and it's it's really is a cool feature.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

Heck yeah, dude. That's freaking saying, especially being all in one app, whereas before you'd have to use multiple different apps to confirm it all, or now it's a one stop shop.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

Yep. And uh, you know, this even kind of stretches beyond the fishing world to a little bit too, you know. Um, people that want to go for hikes or bike rides, uh, shed hunting's a big thing up in the woods around here, uh, especially in the spring. So you can find those public lands and go look for some of those big deer sheds. Um Heck yeah, yeah, it's been a cool deal, and then on top of that, especially for kind of those more outdoorsy non-fishing thing, we just added a 3D mapping with um the topographical elevation contours, and that's it. I haven't been able to take so much advantage of that because it's I'm not hiking as much, I should say, right? But I've still find really like cool features about that that I've been able to use. Like I I was out in South Dakota a couple weeks ago, and the lakes out there, it's totally flat. There's I mean, you look at a lake and it's like, well, this has a bunch of pockets that you can hide in, and then you get to those pockets and it's just cattail banks. There's no wind bray or no break at all. So being able to actually flip that to 3D and find the lakes out there that did have banks and you know, places that I could hide because when I was out there, the wind was just absolutely gusting. Yeah, just another Tuesday over there, just another Tuesday in the Dakotas. It never stops out there. But I mean, it was cold, it was miserable, and I had to find somewhere where I could get out of that wind. So being able to flip that up, find lakes that actually had higher banks that could protect from the wind saved my weekend out there.

SPEAKER_03 23:20

Yeah, uh I see a big advantage of that from the kayak side, um, I mean, boat side in general, too, but also using that as pairing it up with the the topographic maps of finding like what could be bluff walls. Uh, because there's a lot of times a year where bluff ends play the bluff walls themselves can get, you know, especially if they're smallmouth in that fishery, they'll spawn on those bluff walls. Um, a lot of different advantages of that, and again, just honing in on high productive areas before you even get out on the water.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

Yeah, yeah. No, that's uh it's a and it, you know, aesthetically, it's really cool looking too. I gotta say that. Like it's gotten me just kind of looking around. I'll go out to Colorado and the map just to kind of look at it. It's it's fun to see all that stuff, and then again you pass the public lands on top of that, and you can see it wrap around and wrap around the mountains, and it's really kind of a cool thing to just play around with, even.

SPEAKER_03 24:14

Yeah, yeah, really just taking that preparation to the next level, that's for dang sure.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know all the I've got a couple buddies that do some of that uh mule deer hunting out in the Badlands, and they get into Wyoming and things like that, and they've been talking about how these these are things that they really look into when they're planning their trips.

SPEAKER_03 24:34

Heck yeah. Well, dude, anything else new uh with Ionia Pro that the folks should know about?

SPEAKER_00 24:39

You know, that those are the big things right now. Uh, we do have a couple of things coming for Navionics. We did get the uh go-ahead to finally release some updates on that, so users will see some changes and settings changes they'll be able to mess with uh as far as not you know you'll be able to death shade to an extent. Um, it won't be full like shading the leaf, but it it's gonna be a step forward that people have been asking for. So that'll be a big step. And then we do have a couple other things uh kind of in that more outdoorsy world we're working on too, but heck yeah, can't quite release those the ones yet.

SPEAKER_03 25:17

Yeah, yeah. Uh well, looking forward to that. Uh definitely looking forward to adding some of the shader, uh maybe not the shade of relief to you to your point, but uh a little bit added on to the topo of what you guys already have rocking, but uh more depth depth highlighting.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Yeah, we'll call it that as far instead of shaded relief, right?

SPEAKER_03 25:37

Again, just adding to the level, getting a little bit more pinpointed, a little more pinpoint research, yeah, a little more user-friendly, a little more features that people have been asking for.

SPEAKER_00 25:46

So we listen, we've we're taking in the feedback, believe me. We listen, we get it, and we're working on it. We're we're bringing it for you. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:55

I guess last thing on that, dude, if people have feedback or have you know something that they see that that could add to the app, how should they reach out?

SPEAKER_00 26:02

Uh, feel free to reach out to us. Write at hello at omniaffishing.com. Uh, you can message us right on our website or app as well. That goes to the same inbox for me. I'm the guy that gets it, I'm the guy that's the talking to you. So, yeah, no, any features you want to see added, let us know. We're constantly trying to get this stuff more and more and more. So, you know, whatever you got, we'll try and get it in there. If we can get access to the data, we can we can usually get it in there.

SPEAKER_03 26:32

Perfect. Well, Chase, dude, thanks for taking time out and jumping on here and sharing that with everybody.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

Yeah, Bailey, I appreciate you having me before I go. Uh, I do have a little bit of a Father's Day sale for anybody listening out there. Uh, pro subscriptions right now. If you sign up for a new pro subscription on our website, directly use the code SAPRO26. That'll get you $50 in credits automatically added to your card. Otherwise, with Father's Day coming up, Pro makes a great gift, and we do offer a gift card that uh gives that membership. So I will leave the links with Bailey. But if you purchase a $60 e gift card on our website, $60 or more, and then add the Pro gift card into your cart. So both items, both gift cards added to your cart, add that same code SAPro26. That'll take the uh pro gift card, mark it to free, and you got 60 bucks to spend on the store.

SPEAKER_03 27:33

Oh, there you go. All right, I like it. Well, dude, that's awesome. Uh, we'll repeat that for folks too, and then obviously we'll add the links, like you mentioned, in the show notes for people both on YouTube and listening on the podcast. But sounds like something pretty snazzy to take advantage of for Father's Day, especially if you're like me, where my dad buys everything for himself and he's the hardest person to shop for. Uh, I can be like, here you go. Go go do what you want.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

My father's the same way, my wife would accuse me the same way. So, yeah, any of those guys that kind of have it all but think they don't need anything, this is a great, you know, this is a great gift. I promise they can take advantage of it and they'll find use with it. Heck yeah. Like you said, it's a gift that keeps on giving. It does, it keeps on giving 10% back on credit on credits on all your purchases, exclusive pro sales, all the benefits of the app. I mean, it's yeah, if you buy tackle at all, it it pays for itself right away. Free shipping on all your orders, no matter what the size.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, dude, thanks again, man. Uh, we'll have to get you back on here, but uh keep up the the bassin, be looking forward to some hopefully some potential state record fish. Hopefully you're the one that catches it.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

I gotta get on the water more if I'm gonna get that one. I just I get I get happy with anything big.

SPEAKER_03 28:53

I'm hey, we need people on the water using the the app. You know, we need to we need to have the the guy at the helm, you know, you know, steering that ship a little more. So that means you gotta live on the water.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

So that's that that that's that's how I yep. I'll yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

Tell Matt we said so.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

I was just gonna say, I don't know if Matt's gonna feel the same way, but we're gonna make it that way.

SPEAKER_03 29:11

Yeah, yeah. We'll provide user feedback on that. We need we need Chase on the water.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

Uh I need your support.

SPEAKER_03 29:18

Yeah, that's right. Well, dude, thanks again for the time, man, and uh, we'll be talking to you soon.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

All right, thanks, Bailey. I appreciate it, man.

SPEAKER_03 29:24

All right, folks. Well, we have a new content creator here on the pod. We've been we've been binging a bunch of our friends in the elite series and the major league fishing PPT and our NPFL pros. And I was like, man, we got to get back and get uh get another content creator on here. And just I like to diversify it, but we got Blake from BD Bass in here. And dude, we have been talking about doing a pod for a good while now. Uh obviously been following each other's content for what seems like ages now. And dude, I just gotta say you you kick ass, man. And it's good to get you on the pod.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

I appreciate it, man. Yeah, yeah. We've been DMing about it. I think probably a year ago, I was like, yo, get me on there. But a lot of things have changed since then, and I'm glad we're finally doing it.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

Yeah, it kind of almost worked out perfect in that regard because, dude, you have like a lot of life updates, and obviously you got what new rig, new house, new location, like the whole nine yards, right?

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Dude, my life is like flipped around 360 in the last two months, so wasn't expecting it all to happen like that, you know, but I wouldn't wouldn't change it for anything, dude. Super cool. Finally up in the state I want to in proximity to fisheries now. I'm not driving an hour plus just to go hit an average fishery, so everything's good now.

SPEAKER_03 30:35

I I feel that hard. It's when I tell people from Buffalo, New York, you know, it's it's a great place to be if you know you you like chicken wings, you like the bills, uh, and but the only fishing you have is Lake Erie, which is not bad, don't get me wrong. I love Lake Erie. No, that's good. If you want to go out and not be in rocking in the waves, you have very limited days to do so. And if you want to go largemouth fishing, especially like the finger lakes, you have to drive at least an hour and a half to go get to them. And for somebody, I I relate to that sell hard because it's like if I want to go fish three times a week, that's nine hours of driving for me. And that that adds up pretty quick. Um, but we'll save that conversation for later in the year. Uh, I got some stuff on that, but uh little teaser. But uh dude, what's you got so the new boat? Let's dive into that first. What uh because you upgraded from the tin rig, and uh what do you got now?

SPEAKER_01 31:30

Yes, I actually got a really good deal. So I I've been looking around, you know. I was trying to work with some boat dealers. I'm like, oh, maybe maybe I can get in with the boat dealer. And I had some connects there, but the problem is I like to fish 12 months out of the year when I'm done with the bassin, you know, in like November through January. Now that I moved up here too, it's way closer. I'll go like, you know, downtown in the harbors and catch the trout. So brown trout, steelhead, super fun in the winter. And any of these boat deals, it was like, oh, six months, you give it back. And I'm like, all right, well, that doesn't work for me. I'm not gonna once you go to something like that, you can't go back to the tracker. So it's like I'm like, all right, I gotta go and just find a good deal on something, go buy it myself. So I found this super low hour 2016 Z21. So I pretty much made it mine already. It had everything I wanted, added a few things off the tracker. But yeah, we're fully dialed now. Heck yeah. It's got a Merc on it, right? It does, it's got a Virato. There you go.

SPEAKER_03 32:26

All right, well, obviously, for people tuning in, whether YouTube or Podcast, if they're not already following you one, they they need to be uh one of the best entertainingly educational creators out there. Uh, but we got a Midwest guy, um, is what we have. And uh, dude, we we talked about it a little bit, but we got to link up when I go out to the Midwest later this summer.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Get up here. I don't see why you wouldn't. We got plenty of space for you, dude.

SPEAKER_03 32:52

I know. I'm gonna go fish that Wolf and Fox River event. And I'm already like I got Soby on the line, I got shoots with like Rappola and Omnia folks. So I'm like, you know what? Let's just keep adding to the list. Let's just make the full tour in the Midwest.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

So might as well, I mean, if you're it's only about an hour and a half, two hours for me. So oh, we can make that work for sure. That ain't bad. Yeah, we could even fish Door County too, that'd be sick. Heck yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:14

Well, dude, before we get too deep in it, because I know, like I was saying offline, I can see you and I going into many a rabbit hole, which is kind of the foundation of this podcast. But uh, dude, everyone's first time on the show. I like to kick it back to like, dude, who who's to blame for this lifelong addiction of fishing? And how did you get it? What was your route into it all?

SPEAKER_01 33:34

Bro, so I've always been into fishing. We'll say that. So my parents, they owned a house in the Mississippi River in Iowa. So it started off, you know how it is, just night crawler off the dock. You're catching freshwater drum, you're catching catfish. I thought it was badass back then. I'm talking, you know, like from five years old till I'm like 15. Never took it seriously, really. Um, started fishing some ponds with buddies in high school, and I'm like, oh, this is pretty cool, you know, like bass fishing's pretty cool. I like using artificial compared to sitting there with a bobber out waiting for a bite, you know, this is badass.

SPEAKER_04 34:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

Then I get immersed in the gaming community in like throughout high school, into early college, and then when COVID hit, then I really started taking bass fishing as like a passion. Sneaking into golf course ponds was absolutely electric during COVID because no one's running the golf courses, so you can go in there and just absolutely slam them. So that's what really truthfully is what got me super into it, as well as along a few lifelong buddies who got me into it as well. But it went from that to this in six years.

SPEAKER_03 34:38

So, well, on the pond side of things, what was the bait that kind of got you hooked? I have a guess in mind, but I'm curious. I'm sure I know what your guess is.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

Um, dude.

unknown 34:51

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

That's actually a good question. I feel like it was just kind of weightless soft plastics at first. Obviously, a wacky rig. I know that's what you're gonna say. Is it?

SPEAKER_03 34:58

No, I was gonna say a frog, dude. I feel like the frog is what hooks a lot of people in.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

Frog is right there too, of course. Because you know, COVID kind of hit right in the pre-spawn. Then I started really in the summer heavily fishing. Um, so yeah, frog was big time, but I was just fishing, honestly, in these golf course ponds, you're pretty much getting bit on anything, but I was just fishing weightless plastics of any sort, swim baits, senko's, creature baits. I was just throwing whatever. I didn't know what I was doing, so it was just working.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

Yeah. Well, we'll get into the bait side a little bit too. As I mentioned to you a little bit offline, which uh for the folks, we we got some heavy bait talk coming. But what went along the lines, and I I can definitely it makes total sense now. Like looking at your style of content, you one, you obviously put a lot of work into each individual piece of content you put out, but I can see where the the the gaming influence had its effect on your content. But uh where did the creator side of you start?

SPEAKER_01 35:54

So it all kind of roots back to gaming. So I actually had a pretty big following in the gaming space, especially on TikTok. I mean, TikTok's obviously at least back in like 2020 era, that was like very easy to grow on. So I made a lot of like fake streamer type content, like I'm gaming Fortnite, I get like a donation. These would blow up. So that was crazy. So I had that going for a while. But it all started with I don't know if you're tapped in like this. I don't know if you know the lore of FaZe Clan back in the day. A little bit, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:22

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SPEAKER_01 36:49

So it all started from being like, oh shit, I think phase clan's like the coolest thing ever, and like being a trick shotter and all this stuff when I was like 14, super cool. And it always like planted the seed of like, damn, I want to make videos, I want to entertain. They went through this like era where they had this New York house and they were like, they came together as creators. They were the first kind of content house, and I'm like, damn, like entertainment, you know, is just something I really thought would be a cool career path. So I was pretty big in gaming, took a few years off, and then when I got into bass fishing, I'm like, I kind of see a gap in the market as far as a creator goes, where I feel like a lot of people, it's kind of starting to pick up, but there was like this lapse besides Guggen that there wasn't like that energy, there wasn't that excitement. Like it's all super serious, but there's not that like true enjoyment of like, damn, when I'm on the water, me and the boys messing around, having fun, it's jokes at the end of the day, and it's all of our passions. And like I just felt it was taken too serious. So I thought a mesh of my you know brand as far as like being a pretty serious angler, but also making that educational content and bringing some fun element to it, it was just a trifecta that I thought would work, and so far it's going pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

Yeah, uh, he was not paid to say serious angler folks, that was no pun intended. Uh that that was perfect, perfect vocabulary there. But yeah, dude, I mean, really, Guggen was like the first phase in phase clan type deal in 100%. Um, and really the only one that I've uh even seen since. Uh I've seen people try it, but it's they were so successful in that couple years there. Um and kind of like I mean, really, dude, they shifted a lot of the industry to what it is today. It's still shifting and it's shifting fast. Um but yeah, I guess from there, dude, like you obviously got the entertainment down. You have the perfect personality to be the streamer. Uh some of the the streamers that I've watched, and I still do watch today, that's kind of like my um my escape, if you will. Like my I just need like not mind-numbing is the right word, but like what sometimes when I go and I eat my lunch throughout the day, when I'm you know, as you know, all day is editing, sitting at the computer, fishing, creating content, creating ideas, looking for other business, whatever. I need something to get away from fishing a little bit. And like Tim the Tapman has been one that I've watched for a long time, especially because he was uh he's a New York guy, he's from Syracuse, which is right near me. Uh Cowboys fan too. I'm a Cowboys fan, so yeah, unfortunately, unfortunately. I didn't know that the best problem I have. We might have to end this podcast early then. Uh go birds, go birds.

SPEAKER_01 39:23

Uh oh, you're a birds fan. Yeah, oh yeah, your gal is a Bills fan, you're a birds fan.

SPEAKER_03 39:30

Yeah, I get that all the time, dude. Like, even the Sabres in the playoffs are like people are like, oh man, sorry about the loss. I'm like, don't no worries, penguins already lost before this series. Like, it's all good. I'm a terrible sports fan, but we've talked about that plenty on this show. But uh what I was trying to get at, dude, is like you have the perfect personality for the streamer, the entertainer. When did you decide you wanted to start meshing in the educational side mixed in with the entertainment? Because a lot of your stuff is very tip style content, but from the outside looking in, like it's not just it's it's tips like you can learn from it, but also like you're still hooked in. Like you understand the concept of content creation and being entertaining, but you're also teaching at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

Absolutely. So the way I looked at it initially was like, okay, obviously, I said I'm six years into the game basically of like actually taking bass fishing seriously. So that's a very premature, like low amount of time in serious bass fishing. So there's a lot of things I've learned over the years, obviously. You learn every single time you're on the water, something new is being learned. So the way I looked at it was obviously a lot of my tips are pretty elementary to someone like us. You know what I mean? I'm giving out information that I'm sure 99% of what I put out, I'm sure you can agree, you probably already know the information. But when you're looking at it from the lens of like, you know, all anglers, how many, like what percentile of them are at the same, you know, seriousness, serious anglers like us? You know what I mean? What percentage truly of fishermen? Like, what do you think? If you had to answer that, out of a hundred percent of all the people that just enjoy fishing in general, what percent of them do you think take it as seriously as us? Dude, I'd maybe 10 to 15. Okay. And that's even like a high number of that take it serious. Like, I would say we're top 5% of like how serious and passionate and immersed we are. So I kind of looked at it in the sense of like, damn, I'm leaving a ton of audience on the table. And even if I didn't want to come across as like, damn, this guy seems like entry-level, his tips are so basic, he he might not know ball. You know, I feel like I feel like a lot of serious guys probably like, damn, this kid doesn't know ball. He's just giving out these like super simple tips. But the reality is information to us that is so elementary to other people that are new to the game or a more just a weekend guy, this could be brand new information that's like, you know, compelling and can really help them catch fish. And I noticed that in my comment sections. It allows me to hit a bigger audience as well as you know help people become better anglers, even if it's elementary to us, it's brand new to others, helps them catch fish. So it's a cool balance of growing the brand and helping others.

SPEAKER_03 42:10

So that's why dude, absolutely. And we resonate with that too, where it's we still get a lot of comments of like not that there's any issue with this, because one, the foundation of serious angler has always been about learning more about bass fishing, regardless if you're day one or you're day one thousand. It doesn't matter. Absolutely. Um, we get the questions of like, hey, what line should I throw on a frog? How do you fish a jig? And so like that's one thing we take notice too of is like in our shows, like we try to kind of almost give the full gamut, if you will, like from the elementary beginner type of education to all right, let's dive into some nitty-gritty, really sneaky stuff, kind of high level. And so you kind of get the the full gamut over there, and it's obvious, of course, gets dependent on who's wanting to get cough up what, but um dude, it's so true though. And I think that's some of the the best channels and best platforms right now kind of give you the mix, which is what you're doing. A lot of your stuff is very uh, like you mentioned, like for the everyday angler, which is the majority of anglers. Uh but if people are always you you gotta look at the ladder, you know, just like you were talking about. You have this broad base, which is everybody who's you know, a lot of speaking to the the kid who you were just fishing farm ponds and you know, golf course ponds and things like that, that you were just hungry for every piece of information. And then as you go up, the groups kind of get smaller and smaller with the more nitty the nitty-gritty the information gets. But it's it's cool how that works and it's cool to see the people that are still hungry just to for the learning for the passion aspect of it. And it's obviously speaking speaking to that audience too. But um with that too, dude, like you showcase a lot of different baits. Um a lot. And That's a good I really love the series of like to remember if I I I don't think I can get it verbatim, but you have like your little series of like buying is it weird?

SPEAKER_01 44:08

Is that true? Yes, like the crazy dude. I haven't done it in like a month. I need to get back on the get up back on my bike with that. I kind of ran out of them. I gotta order some, but yes, that series is pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 44:18

I got a pile of those if you need some suggestions of some weird, weird shit. But please. Yeah, you're like buying the weird, weird baits or whatever, so you don't have to, or something like that. And it's that's it, yes. Yeah, you got it. Yeah, yeah. So stuff like that, dude. I feel like uh because there's two different anglers I look at where there's there's people that are always scrounging for the wackiest of stuff, trying to find the weird baits, new baits, things that are unique. And then there's people that I kind of fall into that bucket of uh that kind of keep a chalk. Where like I'll buy some weird stuff, but I don't it takes a while for me to really throw it. Um, and kind of talking about what are the advantages of like if you see something that's off the wall, like but when we start with this, I said this a bunch over the last probably year of our podcast where I have learned in this industry if you see something online on a tackle shop on whatever media, say your channel, and I'm like looking at the bait, and I think that's stupid, that's not gonna catch anything. I immediately go and I've learned I need to go buy that because likely a year from now, that's gonna be the hot bait. The Koiki, for example. I had it for a year and didn't throw it. Yeah. Um, what what do you think are some of the advantages of broadening your your horizons beyond just throwing a chatterbait, throwing a senko, throwing a jig, and experimenting with some some different stuff?

SPEAKER_01 45:35

I think it allows you to tap into some new bites that you didn't know were possible. Um, but if I'm honest with you, although it's a series on the channel, I'm pretty similar to you, and I got my cut and dry kind of baits that I typically reach for, especially if I'm going to just go and try and catch them. Like I'm just like, all right, I'm gonna go out. I'm not filming specific content. I just want to have a day. Your standard bladed jig, I got a minnow on deck. Depending on conditions, you know, a spinner baited jig. I'm a tried and true guy myself, but it has opened me up to a lot of different bites. I mean, early on in the minnow shaking deal, like the minnow shaking deal, what was that, like two and a half, three years ago when that started? Like, I I wouldn't say I was hesitant, but I took a little bit of time to do it, and then it opened a whole nother, you know, way for me to catch them. You know, they it feel it felt like that like 2.7, 3.2 paddle tail bite started to die down a little bit. And when you started showing those fish a minnow, it was like, yo, like this is a whole new bite. Even though it's a similar way you're catching them suspended, it was like a whole different ballgame for these fish. So experimentation, obviously. It's always gonna sometimes it's gonna be shitty, sometimes it's gonna result in something brand new you didn't even think of. So that's the cool part of it. But I am in the same boat as you. I'm a tried and true kind of guy.

SPEAKER_03 46:48

Yeah, I think that yeah, there's advantages to it, and there's a couple of different use cases like we're seeing right now with the Koiki, what we saw with the jig head minnow, which had been, I don't think it was, and obviously there's a million new minnows and jig heads since that craze, but has been an application that uh is quite historic for a different you know um application sense, but from a fishability standpoint, it opened up a whole new horizon of people experimenting with of course technology helps there, but I've seen so many cases now where I can go and shake a minnow without tech and and catch a an advantage, even shallow. Um exactly. I'll say one dude that really screams out at me that I didn't think I would ever use, but that depths cover scat. I'm like, there is no way. This is such a gimmick. This is like Japan just making fun of us at this point. And I bought it and tried it. And I think like my third or fourth cast with the thing, I caught a five-pounder on it. I'm like, hmm. Okay, and I've now I found where it'll overf it'll outfish a football jig or even a Senko drag down bottom. Yeah, and it's so yeah, it I think if you have the budget, dude, like dabble a little bit. You know, when you go and order your chalk, just throw in a pack or two of some different other baits, or you know, I've even looked at like from a bladed jig standpoint. There's a bunch of different brands out there that have completely different style. You know, you're gonna officially like stick Florida, which is like the chatterbait freaking temple, if you like, of just with the grass, obviously. Yeah, throw something different in there, you know. Was it I think Tekle has that one weird looking L-shaped blade on the front of it.

SPEAKER_01 48:29

That's got a goofy one, the hula chat. Yeah, that's a sleeper one. People get pissed when I say that one, but it's fire.

SPEAKER_03 48:37

It's fire. Uh yeah, it's always funny how you get those where you know when you're tapping into something sneaky when you post about it, and then you get like the the shushing emojis, or they get like, hey, please delete please delete this type of thing.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

You have no idea. The DMs I get, I'm like, dude, like this is common knowledge.

SPEAKER_03 48:56

Yeah, yeah. What can you do? Hate to break it to you. You're a little late on this train. Yeah. Uh have you dived? Uh I know we talked about a little bit offline, but how much have you dove into the uh the koiki style baits?

SPEAKER_01 49:10

Dude, not enough. So I've really only fished as far as like a true koiky. I I don't even know what size they are. I did a collaboration with this Japanese tackle website. It's almost like a I would say like a Japanese like eBay marketplace where you can buy JDM tackle through it or just other JDM products to the US. I did a collaboration with them on a YouTube video and I ordered these three packs. They're koikies, but they're very, very small. I don't even think they're 13 millimeter. They might be, but they're tiny. So I've done some a little bit of work with those, a little bit of scope and some smallmouth, a little bit of shallow largemouth in the spring this year and like March. Other than that, like I've been kind of just that tried and true kick, man. I'm learning these new fisheries and stuff around me. I'm in a brand new area, so it's like I want to fish with what I'm confident in. So I haven't really been experimenting, you know.

SPEAKER_03 50:00

Yeah, learning the fisheries, and then the best way to learn a fishery is fishing your confidence stuff, that's for sure. Exactly. But I feel like that's the next move, dude. Is you see all this full cast stuff, but I feel like a lot of people are sleeping on some of these tinier urchin style baits. The one you're just talking about, I'll let loose a little piece of juice for people. If you take uh it's a little tiny decoy head, and you can take that jig head, put it on.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

You know, I'm tapped in on that. Sorry, didn't I?

SPEAKER_03 50:29

I know I saw you post about it too, which is like, damn, he knows about that. I'm tapped in. Yeah, because that would be like for like the two-inch Sakamata or the you know, Rapla just launched their their like it's like a two and a half inch Mooch Minnow, like a tiny, tiny Mooch Minnow. That is like the perfect head because it also has a stout hook in it. It does, it's good, it's great. Um, but you can put it through that tiny little urch style bait and it will sink pretty slow. Uh and you can kind of work it just like you would a full cast. And I think I mean, speaking from what I've seen in Texas, like you've seen Millican out there with these two-inch baits catching giant bass, and it'll work on smallmouth. So I might get some I might get the shushing emojis on on talking about that, but that's a little sneaky deal. But uh what what parts do you enjoy about experimenting with some of this new stuff?

SPEAKER_01 51:21

Um, I would say just the trial and error, finding the you know, applications where they fit. You know, when you see these guys down south, the way they catch them, I feel like these northern fishes don't set up the same, fish the same. So it's almost a completely different ball game, you know, with these baits utilizing them like even a minnow, I really only utilize it with smallmouth around me. Like I don't really shake it largemouth too much, at least, or at least I haven't had crazy success at it. I just don't feel like our fish in the fisheries I'm on set up as well. I'm sure some locals will probably clown me and be like, oh, you just don't know how to catch them. Maybe that's the case. Maybe I haven't put enough time on it. But yeah, it's just kind of, you know, adapting to what your fisheries are with these brand new baits and techniques. And I think that's what I gotta do, especially as I continue to learn these local spots. Then I'm really gonna start, you know, especially as summer comes. I feel like the fish get a little bit easier to, in my opinion, summer's the easiest to pattern them out. You can kind of have some very tried and true locations they're gonna be. So I feel like that's gonna be, you know, bread and butter for experimenting.

SPEAKER_03 52:18

Yeah, let's dive into that a little bit because I I freaking love the summertime. Uh I do too. Things just things make more sense to me. Um, whereas like spring is fun, don't get me wrong, because it's it's like the easiest time of year to catch them. Um you can catch them everywhere. But summer is where like things start to make sense. Like you can put an equation together of why fish will be where they're at, like deep grass lines, things like that. Yeah. How what is your process of like things you're looking for? And how do you break in, uh break down some of these inland fisheries that you know might have uh the mixed species, the mixed bag, largemouth, smallmouth on some of your fisheries?

SPEAKER_01 53:00

You see, I feel like I find myself on those like mixed fisheries. I kind of focus up and dial in on one species for the most part in these days, and that sometimes can kick me in the ass. Like I'll come out now that I have the nitro, though, I'm a lot more prepped. I actually have a rod locker now, so I have like a good array of tackle. I never had that in the track. The tracker was just it was probably the worst potential bass boat or boat that you can have for rod storage. It was awful, and just for the amount of tackle I carry, whatever. Now I have a lot more variety. Um repeat your question. I just got lost out there.

SPEAKER_03 53:33

No, you're good. Like your process of like this in the postpon, the summertime of breaking down some of those inland fisheries. Like, what's your process? What things do you look for?

SPEAKER_01 53:43

Yeah, I mean, I feel like things get pretty cut and dry, at least especially for largemouth, you know, shallow shaded cover, deep grass edges, early in the morning fish that slop. Even throughout the day, you can obviously catch them on like a frog and everything, flip and all that. And actually, we're gonna be doing a lot of that. I have my first like true bass fishing derby on the 30th. So things are gonna get serious here. This is the exact type of fish we're gonna be doing post-spawn. I think it's gonna be a frog and kind of deal, a flipping kind of deal. Maybe catch our limit under docks and go catch them, you know, and some slop on the frog. I don't know what's gonna go down, check some grass edges. I'm going out Memorial Day weekend here tomorrow, actually, to scout the fishery. It's gonna be dog shit with how many boats. Gotta do what you gotta do. But it's really just that tried and true stuff around here, you know? Grass edge, deep grass edge, shallow shaded cover, some slob. That's the way I look at it, at least, generally for largies.

SPEAKER_03 54:35

Yeah, dude, I love that time of year. It's typically like a mid-June into August, like deep grass lines, and you just this is where side imaging is massive, but finding the points in the grass, those underwater points in the grass. And then especially when you have deep grass edges that come in contact with bluegill beds, I start drooling. That is when it's like big worm, Nico, like you're having fun. And that that is like the two things that I love in the summer, besides just like chasing around nomads, smallmouth. But uh, with that deep grass stuff, uh, that is where it's like some of my absolute favorite time. Because, dude, when you throw a 10-inch worm for some of our fish up here, it is when you get that bite, is I'm I'm not sure there's much that can beat that.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

No, just cracking them on that is just so much fun. I personally think the jig is potentially the most fun bite, like a shallow, like flipping a jig up shallow and shallow cover, like it's kind of a hot take in my opinion, but something about just feeling that dunk and just reeling down and cranking it. There's something about it that just makes me feel a certain way. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 55:41

Maybe it's just me. That's like the hardest question. I feel like you you're probably in the same boat as that is like people ask you, what's your favorite thing to catch them on? And I feel like it just depends on what day you ask me, honestly, because it's like for sure in the summer, it's the big worm or like a deep plug, you know, like a DT16 or DT20. Uh, and then, but like, dude, like this time of year when not much of our vegetation's grown up yet, and you got like a bunch of fisheries with cattails and things like that that have water on it because we have super high water this spring, which has been awesome. Like waking a swim jig, buzz bait, stuff like that. It's dang that is. I mean, when you watch that wake come up to eat your swim jig, it's just yeah, there's nothing like that.

SPEAKER_01 56:20

But yeah, dude the visual bite of a swim jig.

SPEAKER_03 56:23

Yeah, it's glorious, freaking glorious. But speaking of which, I think you got a uh a brand that I think is getting slept on from a jig standpoint. You got a bunch of them behind you, but Nomad Design makes a freaking snazzy jig, dude.

SPEAKER_01 56:36

They do that. Little wee bit is deadly. It's the best compact. Okay, so you know the striking bitsy jig. Yeah. Let's keep it a full stack here. That's an absolute travesty, in my opinion. It's got a terrible hook keeper, just like a fat piece of lead. Good luck keeping your plastic on there. Just not a very well-built jig, but such a good concept. And I feel like the wee bit is exactly what that wants to be, you know? Really small. I think it's a three-odd, but I don't know. It looks like almost like a two-odd to me. Very stout hook, though. You can really hit them hard on it. You could fish straight 40, 50 pound braid on it, no issue. I usually go 17 fluorocarbon, but they make good stuff and it gets really slept on just because I think it, you know, they stem from Australia, saltwater-based company, tapping into a new market. It's always difficult, especially when people have their go-to's, you know. Like if someone's fished a uh a Beast Coast or they're a Dirty Jigs guy, they're probably not gonna switch up very easily, but they make some good stuff, bro.

SPEAKER_03 57:36

Yeah, I feel like if if people are a fan of the Beast Coast Little Magnum, which I am personally, if you want something even more smaller profile than that, that's where that nomad uh they call it the Wee Bit. Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_01 57:49

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 57:50

That which that's a great name. Uh if you're looking for that with an actual good hook in it, that is a great jig. I fished that a little bit. Um yeah, that's that's basically a finesse flipping jig on steroids right there. Exactly. And it's not the biggest skirt either, it's perfect size for a chunk. And yeah, that's that's a nasty little thing, dude. Um in talking from the creation side of things, what is it like for you from the start to now maneuvering this industry? Because, like we were saying, how the industry's shifting fast too. But like I get all I get questions, especially on the personal side all the time of like, how are you making this a living? How are you, you know, doing the content creation thing? Like, obviously, one do you have to have passion for it? That's first and foremost. If you don't like it, you shouldn't be doing it. But uh, how has it been for you operating in the industry and kind of where do you think the industry's at?

SPEAKER_01 58:44

Hmm, honestly, I've been having a great time navigating through the industry, meeting people, connections. It seems like at the end of the day, it's so tight-knit that no matter where you are in the country, everybody knows everybody if you're intertwined in a bigger company, you know. Yeah. Um, I feel like I really hit my first home run as far as partnership goes with St. Croix Rods. And ever since there, you know, I feel like there's like a level of credibility you get when you start working with a serious brand, you know. Um, and I think to anyone that's, you know, getting into the content creation or you're a pro angler or something, just build relationships and keep them good, you know. Don't one off, you know, go on like a little six-month thing skid with a company, you want to get some free product for your tournament or something, and then dip out on them and don't provide them anything. I think it's all about ROI for all these companies. And I see people, you know, looking at it like, oh, well, why aren't they investing in people? Well, you need to show them what you're gonna give them, what return on their investment of their product, their dollars, you know, their budget that they're giving you and allocating towards you. So it's just like any other industry, um, it's all about relationships, man. So I've enjoyed it, but I mean, I could also talk to a brick wall. So it works out building the relationships.

SPEAKER_03 59:54

Yeah, it it's it's different times now, and that's one of the conversations I've had with a bunch of people is you know, fishing traditionally used to be, you know, the brands that represent these anglers, and it'd kind of be just the brands support them with a logo where it's more than ever, uh, it's more modern based now, where it's yes, you want to get something from that brand, but that brand also needs to get something from you. This is it's a very two-way street. And uh, if you're if you're not meeting in the middle of that street, then it's probably not going to be a very successful relationship. And that's that's a great piece of advice because I see it, you know, I've run business pages for brands in the industry, and I get some of the you know the DMs, you know, of people where it's like, I don't care if you have 200 followers, but if you're able to provide ROI, like you need to be able to match that. And uh, you know, it's you need to be able to provide a value in order to receive a value. And uh the one thing I I think too to for people that are interested in this is this is the biggest thing that I think has hurt content creators, uh huh. Um, but or I guess the industry in general when it comes to working with brands is don't pay somebody money to make them money. Um people that you know will take a logo and a 10% off deal but still pay for all the products and then do work. Because the brand sees that is like, all right, that was easy. Like they don't have to do anything, they're still making money off you. And then it hurts the rest of the deals because then they're like, Well, they did it and they paid us, so why won't you do it? You know, that are like free deals, especially for some bigger creators that kind of puts a damper on things, but that's kind of getting into the very, very nitty, gritty side of things. But um, dude, as we're recording this podcast, it is May 22nd. What does the the bassin life look like for you and the end of May? Are you guys full-fledged spawn? Are you nearing the post-spawn? What is it like out there in the Midwest?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:48

Um, on the bigger fisheries, okay, so locally the bigger fisheries, like we got the small, I saw the smallmouth run beds recently. Um, I think on the smaller fisheries around me, it's kind of becoming fully post-spawn. Um, I've been kind of out of the loop the last few weeks because I took my bachelor trip to Travers City. Um, so I was gone for a week there. And then the last week, I run a media business. So I was in with my clients in Chicagoland for the last couple days. So I haven't been on the boat. The weather's been kind of shitty. We had a bad cold snap. So I'm like, I'll just wait till the weekend and then I'm gonna do a lot of pre-fishing. So I will keep you updated on that. I think it's mostly gonna be post-spawn for these average two to three thousand acre lakes.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:30

Heck yeah. So uh that's cool. Uh on the the business side of things, I didn't even realize you had a media business. Well, yeah, what what does that look like? And is that something that because I I know so many people that are trying to get into things from a photographer, videographer, side of things too. And is is there a lot of opportunity still there, or is that market pretty saturated too? Oh, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:52

Yeah, I I like honestly, like I've been having them fall into my lap. I legitimately have 12 clients right now, not a single one has been from anything but word of mouth. So it's all about, you know, getting, and these are all retainer clients. So on a monthly basis, I'm doing full-fledged social media management, content production, from you know, generating ideas to coming in and filming to post and editing, and you know, obviously putting the posts up on the platforms. Full organic social. And honestly, I've just noticed that all it is, again, relationships are going to be everything. So make a good connection with the business owners. They like you, they'll recommend them because most business owners know other business owners. And a lot of my clients are actually in the car dealership space. Um, so I've got everything from car dealerships to paintball parks to restaurants to a court installation company to, you know, just some fishing companies. Um just, you know, all over the map, man. Just you got to keep your head down, grind, make good stuff. People recommend you, and you can keep building your business.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:55

Yeah, I feel like there's so many industries that are a little behind on from a content and a social media management standpoint where I think there's there's definitely opportunities there. Fishing can be, I think, a little bit more saturated right now, but that is definitely an angle that you can make it in fishing beyond just looking for for partners, things like that is a lot of businesses now, even if you have, you know, a hundred followers or whatever, if you're good at making high quality content, like you can still be a value to these brands by bringing them because every brand is hungry for more content, because more content for them means more that they're active on the pages and more active on the pages, more eyeballs. Obviously, you have your trickle-down effect. Um, but that that's pretty sick uh on that side of things. Um, I I guess with that, because dude, you're really good with the camera for somebody that's looking to get into content. I mean, we get this question all the time, at least personally, is like, oh, do I need to have a DSLR? Do I need to have all you know a drone, all these fancy cameras? Like, somebody wants to start doing what you're doing right now, what do they need?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:56

I wouldn't say you need like a true mirrorless or DSLR camera. I would say invest into, I think the the biggest thing that people mess up on is audio. Like, no one's gonna watch your fishing content on the windy day if you just have a normal GoPro or DJI with no external audio. Like this thing, even the DJI Mike Mini, bro, go buy a DJI Osmo Action 4. It's a little older gen, still shoots really good quality. Get one of these DJI Mic minis, $25. Get the bundle for $70. You're dialed in with quality video, audio. And another thing I think people lack on, you do a great job of this, and other some other creators do a good job, multiple perspectives for engagement and just an entertainment standpoint, very important. I'm running three camera angles 24 7 on the boat, and that doesn't just allow you, you know, to have more immersive footage, but the engagement of cutting different spots, and you know, I'm getting the boat perspective with my Sony A7 III. I got a secondary low angle with my wide view on my DJI, and then I also have my chest perspective. So I would say just investing into a singular action camera, preferably DJI, because you can just automatically connect to this, your dial with audio and quality. Good to go.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:12

Yeah. I think too, one thing I've I've told people and have uh seen a lot of people start investing more into is if if you're not looking to do the crazy big camera stuff, but you want to have kind of that big camera quality, is DJI makes that pocket three, and I use the living heck out of that thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:30

Is that the little like gimbal?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:32

Yeah. Knox, yep. It's it's it's still pricey. I'm not gonna say it's cheap, but in comparison to other DSLRs and things like that, it's it's an $800 camera for the kit, anyway, if that gives you all the accessories, but it has the whole 4K capability with the mic included, a uh a tripod and a battery pack, um and uh a mic, everything, and it can give you that basically the DSLR DSLR look that you want without having the DSLR price, which yeah, pretty nice. That's how I I hook it up in the front of the kayak, and I'm able to get some high quality pictures just from that too. Because with like you said, yeah, pretty that or um, you know, I have the the action fives, you can just screenshot from the DJI app, um, as I'm sure I'm pushing the choir, but you can get some high quality stuff, shoot, especially if you shoot 4K 60, then you're you're gonna we're kind of getting nitty gritty for so there's some people are sitting here like that. We don't care about teach us more about that, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:27

Yeah, dude, it's a whole nother job though. People don't get it. Like when people ask me, does it take away from the fishing experience? With how hard I film, it does. It I'd be lying if I didn't. The Traver City trip, I filmed for one day, and like when I got done and just got to fish again, I'm like, yes. Don't get me wrong, guys. I love doing it. This is my passion. Like, I would even, as crazy as it sounds, I would put being a creator above even being a fisherman. Just I love the fact that people are enjoying the content, engaging with the content. That's awesome to me. Yeah, but dude, it's like some days you just want to not think about, you know, oh my battery packs, you know, not doing very good right now, or oh, my my SD card's giving me another issue. It's like, damn, I just want to catch a freaking bass. It's like it's a whole it's a whole nother ball game.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:12

Yeah, yeah, dude. I I I've said that before. Um, we're talking with friends, uh talking with just random people that slide in the DMs type of deal, but like, you know, because I always hear you you get the must be nicest, you know. Oh, you're so lucky. Uh and and you know what? Like, I'm glad they say that, cuz it I am fortunate. And look, I wouldn't, like you said, I would never trade this gig for the world. There are so many other jobs that I could be stuck doing, things like that. Um, I am very fortunate, I'm blessed for every new day. But don't think that this job, like doing the podcast, doing the content stuff, isn't a lot of work. It is a lot of work, it's a lot of 5 a.m. up late at night trying to get stuff done, especially the more you scale this thing. But uh, it's definitely a lot of work, but it's a whole different type of work and a work that you and I would never trade for the world. And we're that's why we work so hard, is to make sure that we can still keep doing it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:11

Absolutely. And like, dude, it's you know, you can reveal so much information that's so compelling and so like translatable to you know becoming a content creator. It's not impossible, like anyone can do it, but like Mr. Beast has given up so much absolute juice information, like it love him, hate him. He's given out sauce to the communities, and yeah, bro, all it is is consistency and just learning to constantly better yourself. Like initially, it was when I first looked into you know content creation with like during those phase clan days. Like I talked about, it was all long form. There wasn't shorts, there wasn't a feed where we can just mindlessly scroll, like you know, it's that it's a whole different thing. And I thought I was gonna be a long form creator, it's what I thought. But you just gotta keep adapting. Like, obviously, my favorite content to make is the long form. I like the cinematography, I like the storytelling. But the reality is just the consumption of that type of content has gone down. So if you can just figure out where the industry's going, you can put your foot down and be consistent, you can make it. And that's just the reality of it. And it's not must be nice, it's no, I'm working seven days a week, you know. And I try to tell people that like, dude, like ask my fiance if I'm hanging out with her at night. No, I'm sitting here at a la at my freaking computer lab just grinding edits.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:27

So yeah, yeah. I I love that aspect, dude. And you you mentioned something cool there for the people that are in creation or want to get in creation, is we we just mentioned a bunch of camera stuff, but the most important piece, and I heard this mentioned on a think media podcast, uh, was you don't need all the fancy gear if you're really good at telling a story. You're really good at telling the story through your content. A great example, his name's Mav. Used to be kind of part of the Guggen squad, but all he does now is like the truck camping and the adventure, the travel. Everything is shot and edited from an iPhone. Yep. Which is insane, especially when you go look at the amount of views he gets. So if you're good at telling the story, which really when you look by uh look at it, it's it's not the hardest thing to do once you when you kind of get grasp of like just bringing people with you along the way. That is the most important part, I think, into longevity, but also building because I always say this to people that are friends within the content creation space is there's a difference between a community and there's a difference between an audience. And the community is the people are invested, the audience is just watching. Absolutely, and storytelling is what keeps people hooked. And yeah, Mr. Beast, yeah, it's a whole nother rabbit hole there, too. You're very good at that, of the multiple views, constant.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:46

He mentioned like constantly changing angles and focus points so that people are it's audience retainment, I think is the term he used, but like yeah, the audience retention's everything, and not just for like you know, the entertainment of the audience, but for the traction of your content. You know, if you're gonna sit there, it used to always be like when I first got into fishing, it still is. You see, no hate to you guys, but you see these old heads, these professionals, they're sitting there, they'll be like talking about the intricacies of a bait for like two minutes straight, just like sitting there uncut, one perspective. Quality, even if it's on a nice camera, doesn't matter. There's just no engagement to it, and learning the ropes of that can literally completely change how your audience you know grows.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:29

Yeah, yeah. And and that's where like that solid content nowadays, going back to the five, 10, 15, whatever the number is of people that are avid, that's probably the only people that are gonna sit there and watch the whole two minutes.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:41

Exactly, yeah. That that's it, but exactly. And then people wonder why they don't grow. It's like, man, like even I don't know, you just have to look at a wider scope. You have to look at, you know, for example, nah, I shouldn't expose this, but it's kind of like not a personal thing, but like a local business that I'm thinking of. But I shouldn't expose that. But like JDM tackle, for example, how many anglers that are just a weekly weekend angler are caring about JDM tackle? Like if you go up to someone in Bass Pro, it's going and buying like a new ugly stick combo. They don't care about our urchin style baits. They don't know about that.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:20

They probably don't know what JDM is, or nor do they care.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:24

Correct. So when you really try to focus your business model around that, you're really taking away from a potential large audience of general consumers. Like it sounds cool in theory to us. JDM is badass, some of the coolest tackle in the world. Innovative, hard to find, badass. But that only applies to us serious guys, serious anglers. But drink every time you hear a serious thing. I'm getting a little, I better be getting a little bit of residuals from the shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:56

I'll give you the couple pennies we get because I'm only my grandma and my mom watch this. So let's go. There we go. Shout out, grandma. That's right. Well, dude, uh, we got to get you back on and dive more into some of these topics because we have some panel ideas that we're really interested in. But um, dude, as we as we wrap this sucker up, one of the last questions I I had for you was uh, because you you brought it up earlier and obviously having an experience of following along with the phase clan, the streamers is we've seen this interesting shift in specific, uh especially pro anglers getting into the live streaming game. Where do you think that's going? Do you think that's gonna broaden into something of more people doing that, expand into that, or do you think that might be short-lived?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:40

Who did I? I only saw one guy doing that. So to preface with you, also, believe it or not, aside from like swipe and Instagram sometimes, I don't watch like much fishing content. Like when you become, I'm sure you relate to this, when you become a creator, you become so, so tapped into the, you know, putting every ounce that you can into creating rather than consuming. But when I consume, it's with intent to, you know, better my brand. However, the other day I was looking at, I think, is it Kyle Patrick that does it?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:11

Kyle does it, uh, Logan Parks, Chris Lane. Um, I want to say there's a couple others that are starting to dabble in it too.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:18

So there's a bunch of people doing it. No kidding. I think it's badass, personally. I think it gives you a more unique perspective, more immersive with a single angler, too. And especially, you know, if those guys, I think for the most part, like I said, I'm not too tapped in, but they all have like kind of personal brands where they make content correct. For sure. That's gonna be great for building their brands as well. And I think it makes it interesting for like, you know, just following the individuals rather than a general stream because sometimes you get when you're watching Bassmaster Live, you're getting bounced around like a basketball to different people's commercial, you know, perspectives and stuff, but getting one consistent viewpoint of someone breaking down a fishery and how they're adapting on the day is pretty badass.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:53

Yeah, I think that's where it's gonna go, is we're gonna have every angle of every angler. And knowing the the leagues, they'll probably make that like a special membership or something where you have to do that. But like I think the more these anglers do um across the board, the better. I think that's where a lot of it seems like streaming is becoming more popular, not just like gaming, but across the board in every industry. So it'll be interesting to see where that goes. But um, that's another long conversation, I'm sure, for another day. And uh, dude, to end it, to cap it off here, I got one last question. It's your first time on the show, so I gotta ask this question if you can pick three different people to invite to have a steak and a beer and pick their brain, they can be alive a thousand years ago, could be alive today. It doesn't even have to be fishing. What three people are you gonna invite?

unknown 1:16:42

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:44

That's a hard question, bro. I feel like, damn, do I have any? I don't have like one of one people, you know. A lot of people will have like not to say I don't have inspirations, but like one of one idols that like they really inspire, aspire to be, and respect. I respect a lot of people throughout, you know, generations in the past, but who would I want to sit with?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:05

This is an awesome one that I like to ask everybody new because always you get the messages of like after the fact, oh, I should have said so-and-so, but I finally I I I finally light bulb went off. I'm like, AI, like I should just start making images of this person with the three peoples, like Sam Hangi. We had on the last episode, he said uh Brandon Polinek, Kanye West, and Christopher Columbus. And I AI'd the image of all them having a steak and beer dinner, and people loved it, but you would not believe how many like there were some people in there that really hated the fact that we used AI for stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:39

People are hating on AI these days. If they see anything AI, they get pissed. Oh, yeah, yeah. The slop, as they say. But what what's your answer? What what what did you answer that question?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:49

Um, first foremost, I gotta go Cindy Crosby. I've been a hockey nut my entire life, and he's been so I'd probably say Sid. Um I think the rock would be pretty badass. That's a good one. Uh obviously, just because he seems like a cool ass dude and we'd be drinking tequila instead of beer, but sure. Uh his business mindset is what I'm very curious about. And then third. This is gonna be just for my lacrosse people, but probably Rob Pennell. He's like he's like the Gretzky of the lacrosse world.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:28

Okay, he's like the goat. Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:30

Yeah, probably that.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:32

Damn, when you put it more in a sporting figure, okay, I'm gonna get some hate for this, dude. Give me LeBron James. Give me LeBron James. I don't care what anyone says, you can hate on LeBron as much as you want. Came from nothing, had no father figure, has an amazing family that, you know, obviously has stuck with him. He's stuck with his high school sweetheart, never any issues off the court. Greatest overall basketball player of all time. Give me LeBron James. Um, dude. I can't just say LeBron, that would make me a Lady writer.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:06

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:08

That's so good. Dude, I don't really there's no politicians I look up to. As you shouldn't. As you shouldn't. Um, damn.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:21

I'd say one person on that side that'd be interesting to talk to um was Sean Ryan. Because I had to enjoy some of his podcasts.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:30

Oh, that guy, he does exactly what you're talking about. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:35

Yeah. Yeah, I've seen he's like the ball mode, right? Yeah, ball, former military dude. Yeah. Dude, okay, this is any arts fan. You can take this to FaZe, you can take this wherever the hell you want. It doesn't have to be fishing at all. I just can't wait to Photoshop you next to LeBron.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:01

Give me LeBron, give me John F. Kennedy. Okay. I need to I need to talk to JFK. And then did the driver point back to you? Fucking. We won't go there. We're just gonna go Dana White. I don't know. I'm just going Dana White. That's my trio. That's my trio. JFK LeBron, Dana White, lock it in.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:24

All right, all right. Uh I can't wait to put this one in AI. That's good fun. Yeah. I I told people here's the compromise is like people are complaining about AI usage. It's like, all right, I'll stop using it in artwork for the most part, but I'm I'm still I'm gonna do these three to dinner questions. I have to make these because these are just awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:42

Dude, instead of a beer, give me a ghost energy in my hand. I don't drink, so give me a little caffeinated bev, hang out with the king, Dana, and JFK, and we'll be good.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:51

All right, we'll we'll work on that that ghost client uh partnership for you. That's what we'll do. Yeah, I need that.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:57

I need that. Uh, and you got the best flavor there, too. The grape dude. I could drink it every single day. Not sponsored, but not sponsored.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:06

Welcome to grape fire, not sponsored, but open to being sponsored. Uh thank you so much for taking time out. It's good to finally get you on here, man. Definitely not gonna be the last time. And uh keep up the badass work. And like I said to people at the beginning, if for whatever reason you're not following him, all the links to socials, YouTube, everything like that will be down below. You guys should follow along.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:27

But dude, uh appreciate it, man. Yeah, thanks for taking time out, bro. This is fun. Yeah, of course. It was fun, and likewise, keep up the creating, bro, and you got to slide up here soon. Heck yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:37

All right, folks, and that is gonna do it for today's show. Thank you again for Chase from Omni Efficient for joining us. Make sure you guys take advantage of that Father's Day sale that he uh he had mentioned. All the links in the codes that you can use will be down in the show notes. And of course, thanks for Blake for coming on, talking a lot about content creation, a lot about some wild, freaking different techniques and different things that uh can be of an advantage to you to go and experiment. And I know I'm definitely gonna devote some time to some different wild things, um, kind of some of the things he mentioned as well. But uh, Deke, another great episode, a lot of things coming to Sirius Angler Network, some changes coming to the Sirius Angler Network, and uh regardless, exciting things ahead and exciting things for you as uh it's it's derb time, man. But you're kind of in the heat of travel, but just about derb time.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:24

That's right, man. No, uh, still have a local derb with Joey Walton on Cascade Reservoir two weeks. I think we're gonna go in completely blind because we're both really jammed. We'll see if he can get down and get a day or two of practice in. But uh yeah, man, so we're we're in it, kind of back in the swing of things and excited for what's ahead to Sirius Angler, no doubt.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:46

Yeah, and I'll be as this episode drops, obviously, as we mentioned in the intro, I'll be on Santi Cooper, got it the derb there this weekend, and on Sunday, I'll be driving home straight from day two to probably get home around 2, 3 in the morning, hang out with the wife for a couple hours, you know, Monday evening when she gets home from work, and uh basically the whole day unpacking and then packing travel bags and getting on a flight Tuesday morning, going to Clear Lake. So I'll be going to California to go hop in another derb, uh, this time out on the West Coast. So somewhere in the middle, midst of all of that, we will try to figure out how to get an episode out for you guys. Hopefully, we'll have a seriously western for you guys that week as we'll be staying at our boy Chad's house on Clear Lake. So hopefully we'll have a little in-person action. Um, and then uh yeah, try to try to fire off some pods here because literally after the Clear Lake one, I think I mentioned this, I fly home that following Tuesday morning from Sacramento and get home and basically have to throw everything back into the truck, throw my tent, all my camping stuff in the truck, and go to Cayuga for five days to fish four different tournaments that next following weekend. So it's gonna be wild, wild. But the nice part is I think after that the only tournament that isn't like a local tournament, which I don't even practice for, uh is I have iCast a trip to St. Lawrence with the sniper crew, and then have nothing basically all of July until end of or the first week in August. We have the Susquehanna tournament, which is like river smallmouth stuff, so it's hard to even qualify that as a tournament. That's just fun. But wild. Well, I'll need like three days of just like straight sleeping on the couch and then take my wife for a week-long vacation somewhere tropical.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:39

There you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:40

But folks, appreciate y'all as always for tuning in. Um, I know heavy episode, awesome episode, and uh appreciate everyone that supports this show and continues to. And uh, we'll be back for a new episode on Monday uh for hopefully a seriously western. Maybe not Monday. It might be like a Wednesday, depending on what we can get chat on. It might be an impromptu seriously western show. Um, but either way, we'll be back on Monday with a new episode. But as always, guys, appreciate you and we'll see you on the next one.