Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Marc Headley worked at Scientology’s secret desert compound, which houses all Scientology management, for 15 years. The 500-acre property is located deep in the California desert. The local townspeople were told lectures and films were made there. But is that all that was happening? It is the location of a multi-million dollar home for L. Ron Hubbard, built two decades after his death. It is the home of Scientology’s current leader, David Miscavige. So what really happens at the Int Base? Are the stories on the internet true? How does Scientology conduct management of its day-to-day operations? Could stories of armed guards, weapons, staff beatings, and razor wire fences be true? If so, how could a facility like this exist in modern-day America? Hundreds of staff tried to escape over the years. Some succeeded but were never seen or heard of again, and most failed. Why were people kept here? What really went on at the headquarters of Scientology? This is the story of what happened behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology.
Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Unmasking Scientology's Grand Spectacle - Scientology Q&A #38
Marc Headley, Mike Rinder, Claire Headley, and Christie Collbran discuss the upcoming Scientology IAS event at Saint Hill Manor in the UK, offering insider knowledge about the extravagant production and likely appearance of David Miscavige.
• Construction of a massive $300K+ tent at Saint Hill Manor indicates David Miscavige will attend the IAS event after four years of absence
• Discussion of the over-the-top, grandiose intros to IAS events featuring knights on horseback who are actually performers from Medieval Times
• Former executives explain how the Patron's Ball functions as a mandatory fundraising operation targeting wealthy Scientology donors
• Details shared about Scientology's "humanitarian" claims regarding their Way to Happiness booklets versus the actual fundraising motivation
• Upcoming protest at the IAS event organized by Apostate Alex expected to be the largest since Anonymous
• The team shares ghost stories, offers book giveaways, and announces their upcoming Aftermath Foundation fundraiser on November 4th
• Behind-the-scenes insights into event logistics, rehearsals, and how David Miscavige avoids seeing protesters when visiting Saint Hill
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Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:You know, like Dr X, that I met at our last live. Whenever that was, she has been emailing me back and forth yes, live, whenever that was, she has been emailing me back and forth, yes, and she, she got all this collingwood stuff for us. Mark, do you know that? Wow, no, and for the boys.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, that's amazing and then she sent me a thing saying okay, I'm um, I want you to to give away an autographed copy of A Billion Years on your next live. I'm paying for it. So later on, we will be giving away an autographed A Billion Years. Courtesy of Dr X.
Speaker 3:Yes, and we still have two signed blown for good behind the Iron iron curtain, of Scientology giveaways, also courtesy of DrX, so that can be our theme for tonight.
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Speaker 2:I know we've been hearing from a lot more people too. So, for all the people that send us emails and write to the foundation or whatever, we see them, we we can't always answer every single one we get, but we we are seeing a lot of them and we're organizing it up so that we can we can process more of them and get to more of them and sort out the fluff that's in there from people that are just messing with us.
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm very excited for our IES Aftermath Fundraiser on Saturday, november 4th, at 2 pm Mountain Standard Time, 4 pm Eastern Time. We are gaining so much momentum. It is just really, really fulfilling.
Speaker 1:oh my goodness, I don't know what else to say well, um, it's interesting that this week we've seen quite a bit of news about the actual uh arrival of uh fake navy davy in the UK. Yes, I've got my. Oh that way. There he is.
Speaker 3:There he is, you got him. Yeah, fake Navy Davey has been shipped all over the world this week, this past week, if you haven't gotten your fake Navy Davey? Don't delay. Now's the time. We have limited edition inventory. This is a one-time production and, uh, you can get yours at the sp shopcom and uh, I can guarantee you that it ships promptly yes, thanks to the headly clan.
Speaker 1:yes, the the Headley shipper ink.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly, I don't think anybody's going to hate those dolls more than my sons when we're all done with this, because they're packing every single one of them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, they have the compilation of those boxes down to a fine art. It's quite gratifying to watch them.
Speaker 4:Right, we need some video footage. Yes, oh, we'll video it. Right, we should do that. I want to see this.
Speaker 3:Yes, caden is the leading champion at the moment. He has it. No, no, it was a tie.
Speaker 2:It was a tie. It was a tie. Yeah, my box hit the table before his did.
Speaker 3:In case anyone was wondering, we are a very competitive family, yep.
Speaker 4:Not that you were wondering.
Speaker 1:We need Not that you were wondering, but you know Well going to show up at the is event in the united kingdom because this photo sort of circulated around of the construction of the massive tent and believe you me, they would not spend 250 000 or however much that thing's more than that I think it's 300k just for the tent and then when you the food and the decorate, then it just it goes right.
Speaker 1:Kind of crazy after that this would not be happening on the grounds at saint hill were, uh, the, the preeminent leader of the, the ecclesiastical leader of the scientology religion. We're not going to be there, so it's pretty clear he's showing up and that's going to be make um it interesting because we also see all over the place that there is going to be some form of protest happening outside, organized by um apostate alex, and he claims that he has more people that are going to be showing up for this than any protests since the days of anonymous.
Speaker 1:So wow wow maybe we can figure out some sort of live feed from them to join in to the fundraiser. I don't know how the timing exactly works, but we should be able to do something.
Speaker 2:We can actually even send them invites to the stream and then when they get there, if they're able to log in, then we'll see it and then we can figure out. Is there a good way to ask them questions, or we might have to? Um, we might have to test that somehow before that. We can do that with just one of us. We can just go somewhere and uh and uh, we can go into the uh, the packaging cam up in the where the boys is, and we can tune in through a uh while they're packing up something on the phone and see how it works.
Speaker 3:The packaging cam. Oh my gosh. For anyone who's wondering yes, we pay our children to assist with packaging. Very, very well, mind you, we have a. We would have a line of people if we said how much we were paying them. So no, it's not that much.
Speaker 2:Um, it's all good. Um, yeah, so we can. Um, we can figure that out. We'll see what with the um, with the protest that's happening, how we get them into that fundraiser stream. And then, um, wasn't there a like a pamphlet or something that you got?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got, I've got a pamphlet that they've uh been sending around, the Look to Our Future. A weekend of celebration, experience the IAS anniversary, live at St Hill, and then it goes into so much hype Celebrate our victories, reuniting for total freedom. Once again, we are coming together at Ron's home to celebrate the 39th anniversary there. At this magical weekend, you'll hear about our recent victories Like I wonder what they are Certainly not going to be talking about, danny Masterson.
Speaker 3:It was a victory of David Miscavige. Evading process servers.
Speaker 1:Well, he didn't even accomplish that.
Speaker 2:In the end they were like you're done, you got it.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:Recent victories, pivotal milestones and upcoming expansion plans. Well, I guess they're probably like the ones he announced at the New Year's event at the beginning of the year, saying we're opening three new Idealogues in the first quarter of 2023 alone. That was the upcoming expansion plans, or was it four? It might have even been four in the first quarter, but it was at least three, not a one.
Speaker 1:Not a one in the whole year quarter, but it was at least three, not a one, yeah, not a one in the whole year okay, please join us on november three to five as we acknowledge the last four years and look resolutely to the future and drain more of your dollars join thousands of your fellow scientologists and friends of scientology for a can't miss weekend that you'll never forget. Over three inspiring days, we will honor the latest Freedom Medal winners, share breathtaking updates about our worldwide humanitarian efforts and celebrate the heroic things we do for humanity every day. We look forward to seeing you at the greatest gathering of Scientologists.
Speaker 4:You sound like you've done this before, Mike. Oh my.
Speaker 2:God, I wouldn't doubt if they lifted some of this copy off of something that Mike wrote for one of these speeches. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't doubt that they take the audio of this and use it now for promise. Even even the SPs want to be there, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh man, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, it's so over-the-top ridiculous. Oh, I should get rid of this now.
Speaker 3:There we go.
Speaker 1:It's so over-the-top ridiculous. Get rid of this now. It's so over-the-top ridiculous. So, in honor of this great occasion, I grabbed a little clip of some of the most over-the-top Every year. If you've never been to one of these International Association of Scientologists events or have not watched one of the videos that leaked online some years ago, there is a thing called the intro video, which is like the hype fest that gets put together and is a prerecorded video introducing the event to get everybody all cheered up and out of their seats and giving a standing ovation in preparation for Mr Mickey Witts coming on stage. And this is narrated by Jeff Pomerantz, by Jeff Pomerantz. And Jeff Pomerantz is a semi-celebrity Scientologist who used to be on a soap opera TV show and then became like the voice of Scientology videos For years or event videos.
Speaker 1:Not real videos, event videos, yeah yeah, specifically some. He did some other videos a while, but then he because he's so over the top and so and it sounds so ridiculous when you just hear it by itself he's not really any good for anything other than hyping people up at the start of the event, and they've come to expect that jeff Pomerantz is going to get them out of their seats right from the get go.
Speaker 2:He also did. He also did an audio book. Can we ever be friends?
Speaker 1:Right, I was good I was going to talk. Well, did that one ever make it through it? Did His version finally made it out as?
Speaker 2:As a cassette. We did it early on and he was replaced by another guy eventually, but for a long while it was Jeff Pomerantz and David Miscavige never liked the read he did, and David Miscavige actually that specific reading L Ron Hubbard. You had to say each line in an exact level or tone. And.
Speaker 2:L Ron Hubbard said exactly which line was supposed to be said in which tone, and it took months and months for Jeff Pomerantz to record that and for Dave to agree that that was that tone. I remember it was a giant nightmare. That was a tone. I remember. It was a giant oh that was.
Speaker 1:That was a nightmare, yeah, one of the worst nightmares ever.
Speaker 4:His voice for all ex-Scientologists and ex-Seorg members is like it immediately induces nausea when I hear it. Join us now, like put it on, and I'm just like Okay.
Speaker 2:International Association so you guys are going to get a special treat, you're going to get a special treat tonight Because we have the intro to the intro no.
Speaker 1:The intro to the intro. I don't want to hear it, don't play it, it's okay.
Speaker 3:It's okay, chrissy, you can mute your audio. You don't have to be triggered by this.
Speaker 1:Just so you know what this leads into is a sequence of knights on horses clumping through the grounds of St Hill to wave the flags and bring On your ears and cover your eyes.
Speaker 2:And we'll talk about the horse people after this too, Because there's all kinds of fun about the horse people.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Are we ready?
Speaker 1:Yes, you want to do it. You want me to do it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, go ahead, you can do it. Okay, here we go. Let's make sure I'm.
Speaker 5:I tested it and I got audio, so we'll see when the history of this planet is finally told, that's the best. It will be a tale of a determined few who rose up against overwhelming odds and stood firm for the rights of man. It will be a tale of exalted triumph that forever changed the destiny of Earth.
Speaker 2:It's going to forever change the forever destiny of Earth.
Speaker 1:Exalted, exalted, triumph Exalted triumph Now can you imagine that?
Speaker 3:has to be exalted.
Speaker 2:That sort of we call it Sherman speak, or you can call it gobbledygook, or whatever you want to call it. That goes for three hours. For three hours.
Speaker 4:It's literally like a Monty Python skit. Like it's so ridiculous. It's so over the top, it's just.
Speaker 1:And then it goes into the horse sequence and that is sort of famous too Do we have that too.
Speaker 2:We originally so in the 1990s.
Speaker 1:We might play that one at the fundraiser. We might play that bit at the fundraiser.
Speaker 4:One of the special horses.
Speaker 2:Let's bring on the horses and the guys horses so this was a video we had to shoot for one of the the films we had to shoot, some videos of some horses. I can't remember what movie it was or what it was for we'll figure it out when we on the uh series that I'm doing with mitch, mark and mitch make a Scientology film anyway, but when we, when the talent people got those horses, the people that they got them from gave them to the what's called is it called? The Knights of the round table, what's that place with the jousting place? Oh, medieval times. Yeah, so in Los Angeles there's a place where you can go into a jousting arena and you get a turkey leg and a biscuit and some vits and you sit down with like these. You know, it's like a tin plate and you're in the Medieval Times.
Speaker 4:So you can remember your past lives. Yeah, these guys that are jousting.
Speaker 2:They're actors that can ride horses. That's what they are. So when we needed the horses, we got connected into this medieval times group and then, when we needed to shoot, we had to shoot a film for the intro to the IAS event. It could not be a video, it had to shoot a film for the intro to the IAS event. It could not be a video, it had to be a film. So we had to shoot this whole thing with these horses and they're like knights and we had to shoot them against a green screen in the daytime at the property and put in fog and all this stuff. Anyway, it was a total nightmare. Time at the property and put in fog and all this stuff. Anyway, it was a total nightmare.
Speaker 2:But, um, but those guys that are in this IAS video that are marching, that are like they. They brought their gear Like they were at they were the night before people were eating chicken legs and they were jousting in their outfits, and then the next day they just brought all that same stuff and now they're in an is intro. So whenever I see those videos, I can't help but to think of the, the tin thing and the chicken and I'm I'm for the black knight and my, my kids are voting for the white knight and you know we took our kids to the one in orlando yes, and we also went to the one in los angeles too.
Speaker 2:Didn't we go to the one in los angeles? Uh, I can't remember. Maybe it was when we were shooting, that was um the cirque du soleil. Show with the horses yeah, either way, whenever you want. When we do show this thing and you see this guy on the horse, just think he's the white knight and if he wins you get an extra biscuit.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's all you need to know if you can catch it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and when you see it, you'll see he's like the majestic, you know. Yeah, the flowing hair. And yes, it's got the full, the full nine yards. Oh, oh, dr X is here. I hope you were here earlier because I announced to everybody that you had provided an autographed, signed copy of A Billion Years as a giveaway today, and Claire reminded herself that they still have two from you of Blown for Good. So we will be doing that tonight.
Speaker 3:Thank, you so much. Thank you, Dr X.
Speaker 1:All the way down there in Queensland.
Speaker 3:Yes, amazing.
Speaker 1:But she's a. She's a West Australian at heart, she told me.
Speaker 3:Nice.
Speaker 1:Oh, good yeah.
Speaker 3:That's just like I'm an American at heart, even though I was born in England.
Speaker 1:Okay, so do we want to answer some questions or do we have anything else to talk about that seems important from this week.
Speaker 2:Well, I was just going to say that, um, when we first started doing the events at the is, it was done in what's called the great hall and the great. Do you remember how many people fit in the great hall, mike? Yeah, like 400. Okay, so 400 people. And then the stage in the great hall is not the biggest and it's a castle, like an old castle that the scientologist kind of made to look like the, the other stuff on the property, or to look like the castle that um l r Hubbard actually didn't he design the castle.
Speaker 1:Well, it's a. It's a bit of a long story. He circumvented the local planning requirements by claiming that there had been a castle on that location at some point and that every man was entitled to a castle in England by old English law. And so they just built it, and I'm not sure if he really designed it or not. Maybe he did. I've seen drawings that were you know, had his writing on them.
Speaker 2:I think it's his thing that accomplished it.
Speaker 3:Fun fact my mother, when I was seven, was on the Rehabilitation Project Force and was working on building said castle and got a brick thrown at her head and ended up with a concussion in the hospital. Oh my god, which is how I learned to do touch assists to nurse her back to health. There you go these stories.
Speaker 1:They're endless, they're just endless. And speaking of endless, do you know, claire, that castle was being built the first time? I people at St Hill for like 25 years. Yes, it would never finish.
Speaker 2:I think it ended up finishing, when all of St Hill had to be renovated. That's when they were like you got to be. We got to be done with this now because we're redoing the entire place, anyway. So when we used to have the, we used to have the entire event in that great hall and that tiny little stage and at a certain point, when they got more than 400 people to show up, there was no way that you could fit anymore there, and that was when this overflow tent was created. And then for a few years we still did the event in the Great Hall and then only the Richie Riches, like the only the whales, could go into the Great Hall and then everyone else had to watch it in the overflow.
Speaker 2:The Riff Raff, chump Change Express was out in the tent and then at a certain point it became so incredibly insane that we were trying it the great hall. To give you an example, like if you go to a school that has a few hundred people and you have an auditorium, that's the great hall. That's it. That's exactly the size of what it is. It's a very small stage with, with, with you know, maybe 20 feet wide, maybe maybe 25, with maybe 20 feet wide, maybe 25, 30 feet wide and not that deep, like behind the curtain was the wall.
Speaker 2:The wall, exactly Once you were behind the curtain there was just a wall. There there was a turret there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there wasn't anywhere to go, there was no backstage, anyway. So at a certain point the event itself got moved out into the tent and they made a giant stage and then that way they could make it the stage elements and everything that we would do for these bigger events at the Shrine Auditorium or the Ruth Eckerd Hall, and it was more on that scale. And then the Great Hall became the overflow and where the food would be prepped and stuff like that, because this thing that's out in the tent now they have the event and then that's like where Tom Cruise gets his Freedom Medal of Honor thing, when they have that event where that gets given out. And then the next night they have the patron ball and if the event is just the fundraiser, that's the one where everybody gets hit up.
Speaker 2:And if you can't, if you come to the event and you're at the event, you have to be at the patrons ball. You can't be there for the event and then skip out on the part where they're going to hit you up for the dough. It's a package. You't be there for the event and then skip out on the part where they're going to hit you up for the dough. It's a package you. If you skip out that night, then they put the dogs on you like hey, there's something up with that dude, cause he knew he was supposed to be there and he didn't show up. And that is a big thing in Scientology. If you're a whale and you've got dough, if you don't go, your wife goes, or your kids, because somebody's representing your family that's going to be writing checks. So you can't just no show um, because then they'll just come to your house or come to where you live or come to where you go, to the site you do your Scientology there.
Speaker 4:So and these events are happening at the same time all over the country, Like at the same time there's local events in all the orgs yeah, I don't know, and they do that they do the patron thing as well, in other places as well, on the same night we didn't. We did them in africa that's true.
Speaker 2:So so the people that couldn't get to this event, they it was different throughout the years. In some years they would have the event, they would record it and then edit it and then dave could clean up all his screw-ups or his, his speech mess-ups and stuff like that, and and there were a lot of times that after the event he would get a list of the things he messed up that they wrote down in in the broadcast truck and he would.
Speaker 2:They would clear everyone out of the great hall so that he could recut those, oh my god so he would go on stage and he would be like the event, he would literally redo those parts of his speech and they would video it because he's in his makeup, he's the sound, it's all going to match, and he would redo those parts of his speech so that they could cut those into the final edit. So once that final edit was done, then we would bring it to a broadcast facility and then we would satellite broadcast it to all of the other organizations that were having their events and they would record it and then it would be in their time zone. They would play back that recording to their for their event. Um, and sometimes we would actually because that was also hit or miss that they would actually do it. So for a while it was like no, no, no, we're gonna get the edit done and then the broadcast will be the next day at a specific time for certain time zones. And then they had to get a satellite they had to rent, like these. This is in the old days when you had like a KU or a C-band dish that you would drive, you would park in the parking lot of your building and it would bring a feed in so that you could watch this, unless you had one at your building, which was very rare, that not a lot of places did.
Speaker 2:But, um, so this event, the, the fact, the, and the whole reason I'm bringing all this up is because that tent costs so much money to build and to decorate and the tables and all that stuff that if Dave was not coming, they would just have the event in the great hall and then that would be it and whoever showed up would show up and that'd be that. So the fact that they're building the tent is a very, very strong indicator that this will happen and that David Miscavige will be there. Because I can't, mike, I don't, I don't know about you, but I can't imagine them doing all that. And then you know, like a Karen Hollander level person showing up and doing an event, or a Mark Yeager or I, just that would. They don't even have anyone. That's what I'm saying. They don't have anybody that can go out there. That people even know, like that's the other thing. People like, oh, wouldn't, couldn't mark yeager take over one of these guys? Those guys haven't been seen in 20 years.
Speaker 4:Nobody knows who they are do we have any idea when the last time he did an event like that was like when the last we I mean, I don't know if we know I think the last signing of mark Yeager was at LAX yelling at Marty.
Speaker 3:No, I mean, I mean the scavenge. Oh, I see yeah.
Speaker 2:It was 20,. Uh, it was 2019,. Right, the IS event 2019.
Speaker 1:That's why this is three catch up on three years or four years of whatever.
Speaker 2:So it's going to be a marathon, I tell you, if they have to squeeze three years worth of IS event videos into one event.
Speaker 1:They're not, they won't, they'll just do three winners. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:But I mean they're going to talk about all the things that have happened over those years.
Speaker 4:But there's nothing happened Well, I know, but all the things they made up, each year, all the pretend things that should have happened in the last four years.
Speaker 3:all the pretend things that should have happened in the last four years, right like, speaking of pretend things, why do they call it a patron's ball? Like, is there ever any dancing, or should it be the patron's baller?
Speaker 2:no, no, they do, for there's dancing, they do dancing the jive aces. The jive aces go in there and they play their what do they play?
Speaker 4:Swing, swing.
Speaker 2:They play all their swing hits, all their stray cats, rip-offs. I had the.
Speaker 3:Jive Aces cassette tape. It wasn't very good. Oh, okay, if you say so, I never got to go and also, I see Chili.
Speaker 1:B's going to be there. Who Chili B, no to go, and also I see she was never allowed to be there.
Speaker 3:Who chilib?
Speaker 2:no, that's what tony ortega had on his plug today. Chili b is a rapper.
Speaker 3:I'm with you, chrissy, sorry he has nobody else in the world knows who he is either.
Speaker 1:the only people that do are the Scientologists, because they've been told this guy is a rapper. Oh, okay, I guarantee you 99.9% of Scientologists don't have a clue what a rapper is.
Speaker 4:I feel like maybe we should help Chili B and like send him a letter and let him know what he's about to get into.
Speaker 2:Oh no, no, he's been around for like.
Speaker 4:Is he a Scientologist?
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, okay, he's a Scientology rapper. I thought he was an outside rapper, that wasn't a.
Speaker 4:Scientology rapper.
Speaker 2:No, he hasn't.
Speaker 4:Mike, no dancing.
Speaker 2:He has an IAS rap, an IAS rap song that he did. We need to find that this is more vomit than cereal.
Speaker 1:Anybody that's got a copy of the Chili B IAS rap? I think it's on Tony's blog somewhere. I think he published it.
Speaker 3:We'll see if we can find that for our IAS fundraiser on November 4th we should definitely have another video where we talk about all the crazy ridiculous music related to Scientology.
Speaker 4:Yes, the joy of creating Dougie Fred, there's so many terrible songs that we can all probably sing all the words to that are stuck in our heads forever. We should do that another time, not tonight, mike.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, yeah, not tonight. Mike, I cannot. You're going to keep me up all night with.
Speaker 2:We stand tall there's just too many, somebody wrote a KR on me because I would say make it go, right, Right.
Speaker 3:Oh God.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. So that's how we did the events. That's why this is a big deal that he has it. There's a tent there and when we went and did the events, the event crew would stay in East Grinstead. We would stay at the Bramble Tie or we'd stay somewhere around there and then we would go to the event. But I think where did Dave stay and did you have a specific the Manor? You guys actually stayed at the manor. How many rooms are at the manor?
Speaker 1:Um well, nobody would ever sleep in Hubbard's old room, but Dave took over Mary Sue's old room. Of course that got converted into his room.
Speaker 3:Do you remember the monkey room, Mike?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but there were there. Do you remember the monkey room, Mike? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but there were like three other bedrooms on that floor, the third floor, and they had like two beds in each. Okay, and I stayed in there. Sometimes I stayed in the stables, but mostly it was at the manor Now when you say stables, when it was in good graces.
Speaker 3:When it was not in good graces.
Speaker 2:I lived in the stables are you guys like sleeping on, hay? That's what I want to clarify, because every time people would say they were sleeping at the stables, I was like I'm glad I'm at the Bramble Tie. The Bramble Tie seems like a living in luxury to me because these guys are sleeping with horses.
Speaker 3:No, it was called the stables, but it was where all the meals were served for the staff and so kind of. As I recall it, mike and I was really young at the time, but I remember it was kind of a building that was like it had a courtyard in the middle and so it had the dining facilities for all the staff and then it had rooms upstairs.
Speaker 1:And also what used to be stables had been converted into other stuff and there was garages for the groundskeeper's staff used to be the triangular stables around all the bottom was living facilities where I don't know back in the day, the groomsmen and whoever used to live there, and they were little places that had pitched roofs because the roof of the that building was like that, yeah, so every room had like the these little roofs, with you know?
Speaker 3:yeah, I don't know, it was basically windows or something yeah I, I lived in a teeny little attic up there for a while. Yeah that that had a ladder I had to climb up to, and one day I slept, walked down there, got near kill myself oh god, yeah claire.
Speaker 1:You've got so many uk stories I do yep okay, we've got a lot of stuff here, let's do it yes start doing some yes, let's. I got this one Idealborg, aka CoBILF, cobilf, cobilf.
Speaker 2:No, it's.
Speaker 1:CoBILF, cobilf, cobilf. Does Dave use a fake accent in public walk environments? When vacationing, I saw a guy who looked just like him at an anchoring steakhouse, but he sounded Australian. Not a joke question. Well, the truth is Dave doesn't go out anywhere, so it wasn't him.
Speaker 2:You know it's funny, though. We did go to a steakhouse in Anchorage and they might've seen us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe you saw us. You know, we never showed that house in Anchorage.
Speaker 2:You know we never showed those pictures, mike. We went to this place where L Ron Hubbard talks about where he did a. Yes, we did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in Ketchikan. Yes, we went to the radio station. All of us went to the radio. I tracked down this radio station and we went there. This is where L Ron Hubbard did his famous Alaskan whatever they called it the radiological survey logical survey or something, and spent time being the, the greatest radio host in the entirety of the northwestern continent of America and etc it's talked about endlessly in these um L Ron Hubbard events that they would put on. Right, it's in books.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's all these things. So, mike, we were like, well, we got to go there, we're here. We walked there. It's like 10 minutes down the road. It is this tiny like the radio tower was bigger than the building. I mean, the building was like an outhouse with an antenna on it.
Speaker 3:It was like outhouse with an antenna on it. It was like this is the place. This is such a nothing. My favorite part of that was the reaction of all our all of our kids. They're like why are we walking all this way and what are we doing? Yeah, we were totally off the tourist oh, we got to take a picture here yeah, we were off.
Speaker 2:We had walked blocks and blocks out of the touristy little you know the, the, the seafood houses and all that stuff and um, and everybody's like why are we going to? And there's like mark and mike need to take a picture at some dumb building or something.
Speaker 3:Just just keep walking. We'll be there soon yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1:We'll be there soon. Yep, okay, next ann taylor. Thank you, ann. On a podcast about danny m's trial recently, hosts were talking in scientologies, got lost. A couple of times they said that his crimes were considered as is. What does that mean? How does a crime move to that status? Well, first of all, a crime doesn't actually move to that status. It's just a pretend thing. In Scientology, hubbard said that there is such a thing as isness and not isness, isness being something that does exist, not isness being the lack of something or something that doesn't exist.
Speaker 3:And the as isness Alter is was the other one.
Speaker 1:Alter is alter, isness, which is changing something to be different than what it is supposed to be. And then there is, as isness, which is the theory that Hubbard has, is that if you can create an exact duplicate of something like identical, they vanish right.
Speaker 3:And the way you do that is by completely confessing to time, place, form, an event. And if you confess to all of those elements, then you can make it vanish.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you do this in an auditing session, so you as is something by going in and getting auditing and answering the questions about whatever the incident is, and then, whenever you've answered them, supposedly that incident is has as is, which is sort of evaporated, so it's not a problem anymore.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 1:Even if you did something terrible Right Yep. Slightly suppressive since 1989. Okay, I've got to take issue with that. You either are or you aren't, and you are.
Speaker 1:So you are not slightly suppressive, you are just suppressive since 1989. Question how much of SPTV from top creators specifically do you think OSA is censoring from Dave? The vast majority of it. But this is a really touchy, touchy thing that I had to deal with for 25 years. You don't want to forward it, but if he finds out about something that you didn't tell him, that's really bad. Then you're in double trouble. So it's always a sort of a decision so how much of this shit do I put and how much do I leave out, and which ones do I leave out? And if I leave them out and he finds out about it afterwards, have I got a good, rational explanation for it? Not that it matters. So he gets summaries of things, the, the stuff gets summarized and it is painted as good as it possibly can be painted within the confines of. But if he finds out about it and I didn't report on it at all, I'm in deep shit yes, yeah.
Speaker 3:If you didn't report on it, then you're guilty of withholding vital information.
Speaker 1:Ann Taylor oh, we did that. Yes, didn't unstar it. Okay, oh, didn't unstar that one either. I'm just going through the list Janet, hey, y'all, I'm nearly finished with Mark's book. Five minutes and two seconds left on Audible.
Speaker 3:But who's counting?
Speaker 1:My takeaway in-depth personal accounts really convey the depth of the criminality in this cult. Thank you, yes, I couldn't agree with you more. Thank you, peace dog. Hey, you guys have 45K subscribers now at Going Claire. Claire Headley on Scientology.
Speaker 3:Oh, meaning at Blown for Good Nice. Yes, we just hit 45K. Good work, yay.
Speaker 1:Woo-hoo, I didn't even know what mine is at. I'm 42 something.
Speaker 4:Last time I checked it was 42 something.
Speaker 1:Oh, I need to catch up. Hey, how come you guys are beating me? That's not right.
Speaker 4:We're catching up, Mike.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, we started like hey now wait a minute. We started a month or two before All 1,800 people in the chat.
Speaker 3:head on over to Blown, for Good, don't let Mike and Christy catch up to us.
Speaker 4:They started a lot earlier than you, Mike.
Speaker 3:So you're doing great. A lot earlier the.
Speaker 4:Rinder channel will catch up eventually to that channel.
Speaker 3:Yeah, as you can all tell folks, we are a very competitive family of choice here as well.
Speaker 4:Like-hearted All the good fun yes in the best of ways.
Speaker 1:Josie Janet, clara Mock Claire was right the device. Who did that?
Speaker 3:Mark, he jumped out the device. I sent for Serge to use for buttoning his shirt is also used for zippers. One side is for buttons, one side is for zippers. Oh, that's amazing, jersey Janet, thank you so much. We sent that to Serge. He was thrilled to receive that. So, thank you, I'll make sure he knows to try it for both zippers and buttons. Yeah, it's an amazing device and and we we even got the youtube video that shows you how to use it, which I sent to surge.
Speaker 4:So it was awesome oh that's cool, it's amazing how thoughtful people can be like that. That's so amazing, amazing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, some another viewer made him pillowcases with a theme park theme, because he loves theme parks, and then another person made a quilt for him with his favorite colors. Anyway, I made just incredible support. So good job, guys, yeah yeah, exactly yes dnv 1983.
Speaker 1:A bit to help someone escape the cult. Thank you, dnv Dehydra. Hi lovely people, would you all consider doing a mock auditing sesh going over sample questions? Auditing is brought up a lot, but I still have no idea what happens in a session.
Speaker 3:Much love from Chicago, oh sure sure, yeah, claire, start Much love from Chicago. Oh sure, sure, yeah, we could definitely do that, claire, stop Christy pick up the cans. Please thank you, take a deep breath, hold it for a moment and let it out through your mouth. Okay, that's enough.
Speaker 1:We should probably do that at some point Now they're totally confused.
Speaker 4:They're like what is the? Hold it for a moment, what?
Speaker 3:is all of this? It's the metabolism test to make sure that you've had enough sleep and enough food to make the needle move when you take a deep breath and let it out through your mouth and if you don't, you can't do the session. Yeah, if you don't have at least a one and a half to two inch drop of the needle. When you take in that deep breath, then you are not ready to receive auditing.
Speaker 1:And then you go into these weird manipulations to try and make it so that that will work.
Speaker 4:You shake your hands go jump up and down, go drink a protein shake, go take your vitamins, run around and walk.
Speaker 3:Or what about this? Is there any reason not to begin this session? No, thank you. This is the session.
Speaker 1:We should probably do it at some time. Raise your hand if you've been triggered.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Okay, salty Beach Girl Laurie, please let everyone know. Apostate Alex needs 700 more subs for fundraising capabilities. Nice. There you go Get over there and subscribe to Apostate Alex. Yes, mike, look what I found.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:Maria De Jesus oh there we go. K-g-t-w.
Speaker 4:Look at that. Good job, Mark.
Speaker 1:KTKN Look at that.
Speaker 2:Sorry, open Mark on the spot, oh my goodness, I remember that day.
Speaker 3:That was a beautiful day.
Speaker 2:That was we actually the day we were there. If I recall correctly, they said it was always raining there pretty much. And the day we went it didn't rain at all and we had the most beautiful clear day, and that's when we walked pretty much the entirety of Ketchikan.
Speaker 1:Yeah exactly, yeah, that guy said there hasn't been a day like this where there's not a cloud in the sky the whole year, for a year.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it rains like 250 or almost 300 days out of the year there, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know, I think that was the most shocking thing that I learned was that Alaska has rainforest. So I was like I never expected that, I just didn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's very lush. Yes, yeah, oh wait, sorry, maria I just booted you. Yay, I'm on crutches. Oh my god, what happened? Oh, but this is bright in my day. Also, share all the ghost stories.
Speaker 3:It's october, yeah I saw your email I saw your email maria I have a. I have a uk ghost story. I don't have an la ghost we'll save it for the event okay, good, we'll save it for the event. The is event maria I'll give you my cadet org ghost story that made me believe in ghosts and also scared the crap out of me at age seven.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:Looking forward to that one.
Speaker 3:At Stonelands, no less. Even the name is creepy. Yes, definitely.
Speaker 1:Stonelands is one of the creepiest places you would ever want to go to.
Speaker 4:I've only heard creepy things about Stonelands.
Speaker 1:It really, really, really is.
Speaker 3:You just reminded me of another Stonelands crazy creepy story. Yeah, there you go, I got plenty.
Speaker 1:So do I.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Okay, john Zastowski, oh yeah, john Zastowski, I've got my Mr.
Speaker 1:Bill. I've got my Mr Bill over there.
Speaker 3:Thanks for the amazing fudge.
Speaker 4:Uranus fudge.
Speaker 3:John Zastowski, you're the best. We love you.
Speaker 1:Mike is the bee's knees. Can Christy do an Australian accent?
Speaker 3:okay, honey you can do it. Good, christy, I got you, can I?
Speaker 4:not on demand no no, not on demand just on request on request let's go um. I can't. Too much pressure, too much pressure. I do work on it. I do work on it all the time all the australian sports and I just sit next to him and I listen to the announcers and I repeat what they say.
Speaker 3:I know that's why I'm saying I know you've got this, I've heard you, you do amazing. No, I can't.
Speaker 1:Now Muck and Furries. Oh my God, she's gone all shy and bashful.
Speaker 3:Oh no.
Speaker 2:Just say that's not a knife, that's a knife, that's not a knife.
Speaker 3:It's not a knife, it's a really hard accent.
Speaker 4:honestly, it's not the easiest one. No.
Speaker 2:It's just got a little twang. It's UK with a little twang on it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, l-i I-hernig.
Speaker 3:I-hernig hernig.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, I know, I hernig hi I hernig any chance dm backs down from the event? Given the sp protest plans, will he take the chance of being there? Well, that's the thing about the uk and the why he is doing this event in the UK and not at the Shrine or Ruth Eckerd or other places where these events have traditionally been held. He can fly in on his private jet and land at Farnborough Airport and be picked up on the runway by a car that will then drive him in the gates of St Hill and he never has to leave. He will not see anything in the gates of St Hill and he never has to leave. He will not see anything outside the gates. The gates of St Hill are up away from anywhere that he will be located and there is no way that anybody will allow him to even see what's going on.
Speaker 1:The people that will see those protesters are the people arriving for the event. They have to drive right by them. Uh, fake navy davy will already be ensconced in the manor and all he has to do is go between the manor and the tent, and that is very much away from the road at saint hill and where the front gate and the lower gate is. So he won't see any of that. I don't think that'll have any impact. I think he's feeling pretty desperate at this point, that he has to make an appearance, that he has to resurface in some fashion for the Scientology world, because he's losing his grip. You know, you only keep up with the appearance of actually being in charge for so long and then you actually have to show up and start acting like you're in charge and let people see you. And I think he's worried, given all of the negative publicity and all of the the losses that have been suffered over the last year or two. I think this, this is going to go forward.
Speaker 3:Yep Agreed.
Speaker 2:And they did spend all that dough on the tent Right, yep.
Speaker 1:But you know, if he really decided I'm not going, it would just be tough shit Someone else can figure out how to solve that Well, the IS just spent the money, so whatever their problem. We got plenty Andrea Bear. In the 80s I lived on Franklin and Brunson in Hollywood. Across Brunson was the Scientology Castle that's what we called it. Is that celebrity center? My ex always tried to get me to join Scientology. That's celebrity center.
Speaker 2:I lived one block over from you on Tamarind.
Speaker 3:I just saw Yashar is in the chat. Oh really. Yashar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what somebody said. Oh, yeah, he sure is.
Speaker 1:Okay roll tide. He sure is Okay Roll Tide. Y'all Our neighbors would love that. Lance, if you're watching, here's one of your guys Excited to catch you live. This is my first Super Chat 2. I'm glad it's the four of you. I would love it if you would give a big Roll Tide.
Speaker 3:How do you do that Roll tide, there you go, you got it. Roll tide y'all Okay.
Speaker 1:Boater 29. Random, but if they ever did a live remake of Napoleon's life, surely Captain Dave would be the perfect fit. To be fair, I think Napoleon was taller.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:Okay, I thought she was talking about Napoleon Dynamite and he would play Pedro. That's what I thought.
Speaker 1:I love this. One Could have rented the horses from Pat Broker Could have gotten a rate.
Speaker 3:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2:War for Janice and Terry. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Peace Dog. Do ESO members work in service orgs or only at INT flag? Oh, that's a great question. Someone else want to answer. They work in service orgs, yep.
Speaker 3:They work at the Advanced Org in Los Angeles, another organization in APAC, so I think there's three. There's at least four Sea Org organizations in the LA area at the big blue buildings and then in Europe, australia, uk.
Speaker 2:Canada.
Speaker 4:Continental Liaison Office. Yes, latin America. Well, that's not so Latin America, there's no service orgs in Canada and Latin America.
Speaker 1:But there is a continental liaison office there which is where Sea Org members work as well Right, but also in order to open some of these ideal orgs where they couldn't recruit the staff that they needed to get even minimalistic compliment to keep the lights on, they started sending Sea Org members to man these ideal orgs, informing the Sea Org members we're sending you to Columbus or Salt Lake City or wherever they were sent and you need to replace yourself and then you can return to the Sea Org. Otherwise tough, tough luck.
Speaker 3:Yep, yep. Exactly which is how the amazing Catherine Olson came to join us, because she was like hell. No, I'm never going back to Los Angeles. I'm out, peace out.
Speaker 1:Okay, sean Bain, you always have lives when I'm at work. Yes, I will catch the replay again. Take care of everyone. Well, you put this.
Speaker 3:Thank you, Sean.
Speaker 4:Thanks for that. Thank you, even if you're at work, have a good day at work. We appreciate you. Sean.
Speaker 2:Hardworking Sean, just do what all the people in the United States do and just watch it work. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Put a pair of earbuds in and away you go. Yeah, plus date, alex, looking forward to live streaming the protest. 11 am EST. It's 3rd November. Okay, oh, okay. So they're doing it on the 3rd for the event. I got it. So we've got banners, signs and a special surprise guest Time to send Scientology a clear message the abuse must stop. Much love Der Public Reg.
Speaker 3:CLO SPTV UK. Great, there you have it.
Speaker 1:Amy Scobie. Mike Brown will be live on all things Scientology tomorrow night. So excited to speak with him.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, he's a wonderful, wonderful man.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Oh, we did this one already.
Speaker 3:No, I think this is a different one. Oh no, yeah, we did it already.
Speaker 1:no, I think this is a different one. No, oh no. Yeah, we did it. Oh, it's different. It's the same question but it's phrased differently here. Yes, okay, raka fraka, if scientology is the determined few that will stand firm to forever change the destiny of earth, what's the solution to fix the fighting in israel? Serious question, love you all.
Speaker 4:Oh, I know what it is the way to happiness, way to happiness they're gonna that will bring everything, yeah, and the way it tells you how to brush your teeth yeah, and they did that to not be promiscuous and to follow the laws of the land.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and also they did that in Afghanistan. It worked.
Speaker 1:They did it in Cuba, they did it and it worked, they did it already in Israel and on the West Bank and have done videos in these IAS events that say they actually brought about peace. Yeah.
Speaker 4:I already did it. Yeah, it's just worn out.
Speaker 2:We should find those videos in the videos we have Problems are all solved and put that up, and put it up and say yo guys, what's the problem Scientology solved this years ago. Yeah, yeah, yep, with the way to happiness booklet.
Speaker 3:With a booklet, one little booklet yeah it, it spreads, it's, it's like oh yes, calming oil spread on raging seas, we're gonna, we're gonna, rename the way to happiness to the lost hope for happiness.
Speaker 4:Oh, my god.
Speaker 1:You know, what's so crazy about that is they actually convince themselves that giving out those booklets is like this incredibly humanitarian, altruistic thing, and it accomplishes nothing except for one thing it raises money. If the way to happiness, booklets really were the solution to everything, I don't know why they don't print millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions of copies, right, because they cost like four cents a piece.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They sell them for a dollar a piece and everybody. In order to distribute them for the urgent needs of bringing peace to the middle East, they have to raise the money first. Yeah Well, actually Scientology could take the interest on the IS bank accounts from one week and buy enough booklets to give to every single person in the middle East Right At cost. But they don't want to distribute them If they're at cost. They only want to distribute them as a fundraising effort. So it's like layers of bullshit.
Speaker 3:Yes, very much so.
Speaker 1:Is the torch being still still being used at the?
Speaker 2:oh yeah the torch is the main centerpiece of the freedom of valor awards, the. The main center of it is a torch. Even the little pins they have are torches. The torch is everything. And that that renaissance dude. As soon as he put that turkey leg down, he picked up that torch and that's what he's got on the horse when he's when. Whenever you see this dude on the horse, he's got that ias torch in his hand yeah, the torch is the brand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the torch it's like the, it's like survivor symbol yeah, it's the torch is your life. Yes, fire represents your life in this, the ultimate fight the ultimate price for freedom?
Speaker 1:exactly, apostate, alex mike. What was cob's usual travel plan with IAS? Would he fly in the day before and fly out on Sunday night? How long would you expect him to spend in the UK on a normal year? Okay, on a normal year, if the event was on Friday night, we would arrive no later than Tuesday, at least Sometimes Monday, sometimes Monday, sometimes even earlier, sometimes the sunday, because they would have the stage set up by monday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he can start his rehearsals, exactly, and he would leave afterwards, depending upon whether there was a whiskey tasting tour through scott, the, uh, the brew, what do you call them? The distilleries of scotland planned by the is for after the event, uh, or a shopping spree at john to get some new handmade boots or whatever may be on the agenda of activities for, uh, mr mickey witts, um, after the event, but he would stay there usually typically for a week or more, even if he didn't go to scotland to the distilleries, um, because he actually liked saint hill yeah, and he would hang out and he would go through the org and then he might go to london and he would, but he would always end up back there, kind of just hanging out.
Speaker 2:And then he would hang out and he would go through the org and then he might go to London and he would, but he would always end up back there, kind of just hanging out, and then he would be. You know, he would take any opportunity because he's not going over there. So all the things that he's been being told that have been happening all year long in the UK, he can now see with his own eyes and then he can go. You know what? What I just found out? You guys told me X, y, z and I just went over there and nothing got done and it never happened. And then so he uses that as his time to smoke out anything that people might have told him, because they can get away with it for a whole year, and now they've been getting away with it for three years.
Speaker 1:So exactly, okay, laurie plays. Anyone know of a way to get hold of the music track for we Stand Tall without the vocals?
Speaker 2:There's probably an app for that, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was just going to say there's probably a program somewhere that will do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just load it into a karaoke app and it'll strip the vocal track out so you can sing over it. Laurie plays. You've got issues. I don't know what you're doing over there, but it looks like you got a little microphone headphone logo. So you're obviously up to some kind of nonsense. But that's my tip.
Speaker 1:Okay, jeff. Oh my God, my mind just went apoplectic. Someone needs to make an SO parody with Benny Hill clips.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I was watching an episode of Benny Hill, the other day where he's
Speaker 4:on a motorbike.
Speaker 2:When I was a kid that was one of my favorite shows was the show I had no idea what was going on, but I always knew, knew somebody was gonna end up in their underwear and up in a tree at some point during that video my, my absolute favorite were the carry-on movies.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, they were pretty cool, so funny they didn't beat monty python yeah, yeah, is that's monty?
Speaker 1:python is the ultimate yeah, yes. Nope, we got that one already, sorry.
Speaker 3:Oh, jackson in the house. Yay, jackson, hello, hey you beautiful guy. Hi, jackson, back at you, jackson.
Speaker 1:Okay, Lumina M love and admire you all. Well, thank you. We love and admire you all. Well, thank you, we love and admire you, thank you. Jessica Flina. Has anyone ever reported back for their 20th? No, no, that's a hard no.
Speaker 2:Everybody who goes. That's a good point. Some Sea Orc members should figure that out. They go. We've been giving these guys LOAs and none of them are coming back.
Speaker 3:We're all blown. That was my backup plan for if I failed to escape. I'm like well, at least I can die and never come back.
Speaker 2:You could take an LOA leave of absence.
Speaker 4:There's probably someone who thinks that there are, we come back.
Speaker 3:Well, I know, but 21 year, but they've never proven it, and that's.
Speaker 4:That's the thing I'm just saying they're joining up as a new person, going okay, but my argument on that was like why are they recruiting me at 16?
Speaker 3:Why don't I get to be 21?
Speaker 2:I mean, what the hell kind of five year discrepancy right there. That's a good point.
Speaker 3:Right yeah.
Speaker 1:I hear you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, nonsense, nonsense.
Speaker 1:Absolute, ridiculous nonsense. Yeah, okay, dronsense. Absolute ridiculous nonsense. Yeah, okay, dr X in the house, yay, hi all. He gave me an excuse to procrastinate from making a thesis dissertation. Marking, oh yes, is the reason DM is so hateful. Is his BTs look like my profile? No, how much money does CUS expect to squeeze from its supporters at IAS, I would say it's in the tens of millions at least. If they don't get at least 10 million, they would consider it a failure. Whose dog?
Speaker 2:is barking at least 10 million, they would consider it a failure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Whose dog is barking? That's Emmy. Hi Emmy, oh my God.
Speaker 2:This SPTV dog epidemic is uncontrollable.
Speaker 3:I'm just grateful I don't have dogs that bark. Now I've probably jinxed it.
Speaker 1:I'm going to know what I'm doing right now. That must be Shane. There you go.
Speaker 3:Jack just yelled at Emmy Perfect.
Speaker 5:Good job, jack. Right, that must be shane. Yeah, oh, there you go. Jack just yelled at emmy perfect, good job dr x um dave's bts.
Speaker 1:Look like everybody else's bts imaginary okay, but that does remind me we didn't give away a book yet oh yeah, we're an hour and six minutes in and we haven't given away a book.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm sorry people listening, You've been so patient.
Speaker 2:We'll do one every 10 minutes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll do one every 10 minutes for the last 30 minutes, because we're going to end by 930.
Speaker 3:Okay, perfect. So we'll do a BFG one first, then a Billion Years, then a BFG.
Speaker 1:Okay Sounds, send a BFG. Okay Sounds good.
Speaker 3:So who wants to pick Mark? You're up, okay, book me.
Speaker 2:Book me If you want a BFG signed copy from Claire and myself. Hardback it is.
Speaker 3:Courtesy of Dr X. Thank you for being here, Dr X. We appreciate you and your support.
Speaker 2:So if you want a book, you got to get in there. I got to catch up and there we go. People are getting up there. Benny Hill, oh, here we go, book me, I can see, yes, I was catching up and somebody was talking about Benny Hill.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Book me, book me, book me, book me. Okay, here we go, I'm going to pick it. It's coming down Sweet and salty all right, there we go all right, that claire congratulations, I've got.
Speaker 3:I've got it noted down perfect send me an email claire at blown for good dot com with your address, please, sweet and salty, one, one, one one, and we will mail you a copy of uh blown for good behind the iron curtain of scientology, signed by both mark and myself excellent yay okay, missy question what do celebrity scientologists think about regular scientologists?
Speaker 1:do they see themselves as better or higher? Better I think they do there?
Speaker 2:I think so and also l ron hubbard wrote a um, an issue, a writing, and he issued it to Sea Org members and it's called the Celebrity SO Member and celebrities were considered honorary Sea Org members because what they're doing is they're getting Scientology out to the world through the arts, is they're getting Scientology out to the world through the arts. And so I remember Vonnie Rabisi would always tell me that he was an honorary Sea Org member per the L Ron Hubbard thing on that and I was always like okay dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they definitely had a. You ain't living like a Sea Org member.
Speaker 1:You're doing an all nighter tonight and we'll see how you feel about being an honorary Sea Org member A superior attitude towards others because they had such a big sphere of influence
Speaker 2:yes, and for all you people that are wondering who that is, it's giovanni rabisi, who's an actor. When we were kids, he was just vonnie rabisi.
Speaker 3:He didn't go by giovanni he told me he was very proud of me when I signed my seer contract. I was just like really wow thanks for that good job okay, pasted.
Speaker 1:Alex, if cb gets served while he's in the uk, I hope I'm there so I can shout flunk as he's handed the documents. Well, I hope you're there too, too, can he be served while he's there. No, not outside of. There's some. English proceeding that he needs to be served with Notified of yeah, right, because that's outside of US jurisdiction, right.
Speaker 1:Deborah Bunker. So happy to see all of you live tonight. Mike, you are looking better every time I see you. Can you give us a health update? Also, I purchased and read your book. Thanks for all you do. You know what the next live that we do? I will give you a health update for real, because I'm going to the oncologist tomorrow. I had a big test yesterday. I will find out the results of that and that will be very. It will be the first time for some months that there has been anything test-wise that might give some information about what's going on. But I'm feeling good and the treatment that I am doing seems to be working out fine. So, um, everything's everything's good in the hood for right now amazing.
Speaker 1:Yay, team mike plus, oh, did that one sorry chemist between you four people. Could you please explain l10, l11, l12 rundowns? I heard those were out of this world and messes up a lot of people. Okay, um, we talked about this somewhere recently, didn't?
Speaker 4:you guys talked about it on the last one with the three of you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, these three rundowns supposedly, you know what. We should probably get like Karen to come on sometime and describe what actually gets done on each one of these rundowns.
Speaker 3:Yeah, or even we could just get the docs and run through it and explain it. But yeah, either way, I'm sure we we could go into it in much more, with much more specificity, looking at exactly what is being done but none of us have had them none of us have had them no you have to have you like.
Speaker 4:special people got them who had lots of money and only at flag and it's not available everywhere.
Speaker 3:So yeah, but but it is available online and it's the same. It's a lot of the same online. Yeah, Everything's available online now, as our kids say. As our kids say, search it up.
Speaker 2:Hey, before, before we move on, that's a good comment. Thank you, Chemist Um, it said. I looked it it up. It says the most common method of service of us proceedings in the uk is via the central authority for the uk, which is the senior master of the queen's bench division of the high courts of justice in london. So, right, there may be a way to do that, but that sounds very complicated. Yeah, well, yeah, I'm just saying it's not impossible, but it's highly improbable, right? How about that?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, agreed.
Speaker 1:Just Lisa got my troll on a pole, thanks, good job Shippers, bravo Yay.
Speaker 2:Pole Okay, good job shippers, bravo yay did we show the troll in the hole at the base no, I don't think we showed that yet no, I'll get it troll at the hole troll at the hole stay tuned if you'd like to see troll at the hole you don't want to miss it
Speaker 5:you don't want to miss it. Oh there, don't want to miss it.
Speaker 3:Oh, there he is there, Troll Asshole.
Speaker 2:That is, in front of the international headquarters, right outside the gate, that little guard booth and it looks like somebody was driving by or they parked right next to it, right in front of it.
Speaker 3:Yes, thank you to our very special viewer who turned this in. We love you. I know who you are. I don't want to name docs you because you didn't give me authorization to do that, but thank you for sharing that yes, okay, denver.
Speaker 1:steve-o, all 45k of you head on over to denver. Steve-o watch miss bricks mitch brisker's origin story, thursday at 9.30 pm ET. Love the four of you, so great to see you all together. Osa smells like poop, thanks.
Speaker 3:Denver, denver. Steve-o in the house.
Speaker 1:Let's see Declared Dave loves suppressive sherry Married to suppressive sherry this summer. So sending you fabulous SPs and love for both of us, thank you.
Speaker 3:Lovely Congratulations.
Speaker 1:LJ. How do you think artificial intelligence will impact the technology of the e-meter, Perhaps make the e-meter obsolete technology? No.
Speaker 4:No. No they can't change their ways.
Speaker 1:It's all policy from L.
Speaker 4:Ron Hubbard Nothing changes no they can't change their ways. It's all policy from l ron hubbard. Nothing changes.
Speaker 2:We stay in the in in the yeah, in the dark ages over there, forever there's even an e-meter in l ron hubbard's house at the base that measures. Mike, you know what I'm talking about. There's an e-meter that l ron hubbard has. I don't think there's any other one besides that one. No, that's it. That has no cans right.
Speaker 1:Yep, that's right. It's supposed to be used remotely, yeah.
Speaker 3:Love to see that in action.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think everybody would like it. Let me see a demonstration of that. Yeah, well, yeah, there's only one of them.
Speaker 4:That gonna happen, yeah the thing about the thing about scientology and seer is like they don't even use emails. They still send telexes, because that's what l ron hubbard said. So like technology does not really advance they do.
Speaker 3:The thing about science fiction is there's no story you can't tell yeah, well yeah because it happened on another planet where everything's different.
Speaker 5:That's how it works yeah, that's the whole point, let the exactly let your imagination be the limit that's how you freeze thetans and glycol right exactly with no way not my
Speaker 2:bts bts activate.
Speaker 3:My bts are on my bts are ready for you, christy, did you?
Speaker 2:hear man, we've been drinking glycol for for months, just to. So they can all uh, what? Do you build up an immunity to it so christy, did you hear mark's new bt theory?
Speaker 2:tell me, tell her mark instead of evicting them like homeless people and just making them go to other people. Yeah, you just talk them down. You just say listen, guys, we're all in this together and you get, you get like four or five on board with you and you bribe them with ever what kind of BT treats or whatever Scooby snacks. Bt snacks and then I mean literally.
Speaker 4:I need the inside skinny. On the snacks, though Like what snacks do they like?
Speaker 2:Don't worry, I'm going to. I'm formulating a whole program for this so people can do it, because it's way cheaper than Scientology. And then you get those guys to convert the other guys. It's like a BT pyramid scheme. Everybody gets on board, and then each BT you get, you get five BTs under you, and then he gets by, and then, and then you have a little army, and then they're all working together okay, and then you can harness all of their millions of skills that they have from the, from the whole track and when you need them you go bts activate oh my goodness, it's gonna work.
Speaker 3:It's the plan, karen m asked are the bts good or bad, bad or good? And that's that's our point, karen. In scientology they're considered to be bad and you have to get rid of them they're prejudging and canceling all these innocent pieces.
Speaker 2:They didn't do anything. They got on a plane, they thought they were going on a trip and they ended up at earth. It's not. I don't know what's going on. They went in for a tax audit. These aren't bad, bad people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and to Steffi the Beaches Activate. March is coming shortly. Yes, indeed, we already have it in the works.
Speaker 2:I think we answered LJ's question sufficiently.
Speaker 1:Kimberly Stovall if the needle doesn't drop because your metabolism is off, you get a free ride on Tom's motorcycle. Thank you for some laughs in this difficult time.
Speaker 3:Yes, Our pleasure. Yes, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1:Dr X Mike, I grew up in Perth so had to support my fellow sand gropers. That is what Australians call people from Western Australia sand gropers. Okay, is that?
Speaker 4:a bad thing. That sounds pretty offensive.
Speaker 3:That's kind of offensive, I agree. I'm with you, christy. I don't know, I've never been to Australia, but that sounds pretty down and dirty. It's not really offensive, it's just a playful term. It's like digging around. Australia has a lot of playful terms that are offensive to others, but is it like an equivalent term to redneck?
Speaker 2:No, it's like the opal people, right, you can call someone a dickhead in Australia, and that means you're my best friend, wow. Where's?
Speaker 4:the opal mines.
Speaker 1:Where's the opal mines? That's in South Australia.
Speaker 2:That's my home state, Okay good, okay, nice, I like those guys. You guys got to sort out those flies, though I'm not coming until the flies are sorted out.
Speaker 1:That's the national bird of Australia. Oh man, Not happy about that Did we finish this person's question.
Speaker 4:No, okay, do you want me to?
Speaker 2:explain the sand gropers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah so she's in queensland for work and look after the old folks. The excellent music you all rave about. Did cos have specialist writers come up with the lyrics? Did dm write it? Oh yeah, there was a specialist writer that came up with the lyrics for those songs elron hubbard.
Speaker 3:One, one album at least most of them jackson said in the comments that mark schecter wrote the lyrics to we stand tall yes, he did yeah he didn't, he did.
Speaker 2:There's albums the road to freedom. That's all elron hubbard written yeah he even sings. He even sings on that album yeah, and he scored and arranged that whole album. Yeah, he sings.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he sings like my singing. I don't know. I think it was lip syncing.
Speaker 2:And also there's the Road to Freedom.
Speaker 3:Oh, that one, yes, yes, hymn of Asia.
Speaker 2:Space Jazz. Space Jazz.
Speaker 3:I haven't heard that one. Oh yeah, that one's funky edgar winner what about our favorite? Don't say that on youtube. What about our favorite, christy ready? Laugh a little, laugh a little laugh yeah, that's on sound of freedom.
Speaker 2:Then that what's the?
Speaker 3:other one that road to freedom.
Speaker 2:What's the one?
Speaker 3:that dougie fresh joy of creating, joy of creating.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's also all. L run hubbard songs by and, and I think dougie fresh might have reinterpreted a few of those to kind of make them work was there?
Speaker 4:was there music for the hymn of asia or no?
Speaker 3:yes yes, okay that's another one, yeah, yeah we said that, okay, never mind, there is.
Speaker 1:We could do an entire episode on the hymn of.
Speaker 2:Asia. We could Basically. L Ron Hubbard says he's Buddha.
Speaker 4:He's the Messiah. The hymn of Asia, okay.
Speaker 1:And he was serious, Claire. I got my SP Shop Curious t-shirt in the mail today. We'll be walking all over disney world with it this weekend nice send us some pics I haven't seen that one yeah, so that is, um, that is a very.
Speaker 3:I'll send you a picture of it, mike. It's really awesome. It's at the sp shopcom and it has a really awesome rendition of an SP logo that was designed by Mike Brown and a rendition of the curious shirt with a QR code that goes to the aftermath foundation website.
Speaker 1:Oh, how cool is that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's amazing. So yes, Thank you, Laurie. Please definitely send us pictures. We would love to see that.
Speaker 1:Well, we all got our team mic.
Speaker 4:I think we need to do another book giveaway.
Speaker 1:Oh yes.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:Oh, you just gave me a brilliant idea. We'll get a bunch of Aftermath Foundation shirts so we can all wear them during the fundraiser.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, good idea, claire. Yeah, okay, honey, you want to pick this one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we need some book. Me comments.
Speaker 1:This is for the billion years.
Speaker 4:There you go.
Speaker 3:Now they're flying.
Speaker 5:It's for the billion years. Are you going to do a countdown?
Speaker 3:It's for the billion years.
Speaker 1:And then I started burping, completely gross Everybody else with a big In comparison to the beautiful head lease.
Speaker 2:Well, also you guys, yip yap about me taking a long time to pick somebody. You guys, there's like 7,000 bookies in there by now Go ahead, pick Lisa.
Speaker 1:There's like 7,000 bookies in there by now. Go ahead, honey. Pick Lisa. E Book, book, book, amazing.
Speaker 3:Okay, Lisa E.
Speaker 1:Email me at my blog. Go to my blog, Click on the contact me. Say I'm Lisa E. I'm the person who won the copy of your book. Tell me what you want me to write in it and it will be on its way to you very, very rapidly nice, and we're in our final seven minutes, right yeah okay okay, so no, don't star anything more claire.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, finish these up. Linda utect, I don't understand why you were taught wogs were bad people, but it's okay for all the celebrities to interact with them on a daily basis. Two separate measures for everyone, depending on who you are.
Speaker 3:Yes, very good.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's true, but also Scientologists are expected to integrate with wogs. They are not just bad people. They're uninformed, they're ignorant, they're lacking the wisdom that Scientologists have, and it's your job to get them to all understand everything that us Scientologists understand, which makes us masters of the universe and you pawns of the universe.
Speaker 4:They need to be saved, basically, so we should be interacting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're unenlightenedened, but that doesn't mean that they could couldn't become enlightened right and you're expected to enlighten them yes, exactly exactly, alexandra champagne.
Speaker 1:Napoleon was five foot and five inches, confirmed on autopsy reports, so napoleon was taller lol how tall is Dave?
Speaker 3:Five foot four 13.
Speaker 1:It's debatable.
Speaker 3:I'm kidding. We don't actually uh, karen last told me the other day she has all of his measurements, so maybe I'll ask her. Okay, because she made his uniforms, so yeah, all of them, all of them, all of them.
Speaker 1:Wow Okay, mail from Gina Started a billion years today. Great book. Thanks for the important contribution. I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 4:Oh nice.
Speaker 1:Nice, vegan 3. I just posted a story about a concert they did in Curacao and they passed out 1,700 way to to happiness pamphlets. Posted the story in the forum. Okay, thanks, there you go. They did a lot of good. Mike, still waiting on that xenu costume pick oh, it's the best.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we'll bring, we'll bring up all the costumes for alive in the future. Mike, we got a whole bunch.
Speaker 3:We can post it at the fundraiser. We can add it to the list of the many things we'll show.
Speaker 1:We've got so many things that we're going to be showing. It's going to be like the Danny, whatever that guy's name was telethon.
Speaker 4:That's how we get them to donate Final. Boys.
Speaker 1:Super sticker. Thanks, Final Boys and another one.
Speaker 3:Well, thank you. Final Boys, and another one Well, thank you.
Speaker 1:Final Boys, mike Brown. I really appreciate Aaron reading Rosemary's letter. He did it justice for sure. Yes, great job, aaron. Yes, good job, thank you, I got that one already. Okay, chaz B. During a protest like the recent one at Big Blue and soon at Celebrity Center, what does it look like on the inside while the protest is in progress?
Speaker 2:um, drawn blinds yeah, they literally say go outside they literally say stay inside, close the windows and close the blinds and we'll tell you when they're gone it's kind of like denial in there, like it's not happening.
Speaker 4:There's just right.
Speaker 1:They just and and for most of the people it isn't because they don't see it.
Speaker 4:They don't see it, they don't know about it.
Speaker 2:Unless you drive by.
Speaker 1:Yep Waked on cat Received Received.
Speaker 3:Someone donated vehicle yeah. I have Claire Bear mugs now on Blown for Good merch store. Yes, they're super cute.
Speaker 1:I can't keep up with all the merch I saw, those I saw those ones.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, SP crack a lick of fan. Let the super puppies bark there you go, they will bark.
Speaker 2:They have been, they've got minds of their own. It doesn't matter what channel you tune into? There's a dog barking somewhere. Veronica Tingzon.
Speaker 1:Hi guys, love you all. Christy, I love to see a fellow birth pro here. I'm an RN IBCLC and it all started with being a doula.
Speaker 4:Hi Veronica, that's so sweet Awesome.
Speaker 1:You might want to define what an IBCLC is. Honey.
Speaker 4:An International Board Certified Lactation Counselor.
Speaker 1:And I knew that. Oh good job, Mike.
Speaker 3:I did not you provide breastfeeding counseling and, mike, I did not.
Speaker 4:Good job. It provides risk-heating counseling and support. I do.
Speaker 1:yes, stephanie Stewart, claire, I'm sure I saw every Carry On movie when we lived in the UK part of the year. Remember Carry On Doctor on TV? Such asinine show. And so not USA. That's absolutely right.
Speaker 3:Yes, I saw Carry On Doctor on doctor, carry on nurse and all of them I love them oh okay, how does one harness the bts? Do tell we'll let you know. We'll let you know we're doing it.
Speaker 4:We're doing a science project yeah, you answered the question mark well, so far it seems like they love bacon.
Speaker 2:That's all I've been able to determine.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we just need to know what snacks we need. The details on the snacks.
Speaker 2:Thick cut center, cut bacon. They love, they go crazy.
Speaker 3:Candied roasted bacon. Anything with bacon seems to be going well, okay.
Speaker 1:OBG Foster. My BTs are having a civil war. One side follows Ben and the other side follows Jerry.
Speaker 2:I know the struggle is real. Obg, the struggle is real.
Speaker 1:Yeah, amazing. Okay, here's our last one. Scientology Clips SPTV Mark idea for future video Go with that article by the reporter from the Sun. Scientology got it taken down, but we can put it up on YouTube.
Speaker 3:I don't know what article that is maybe email it to us and we'll explore the idea further sure that sounds good.
Speaker 2:I don't know if that's a recent thing. Maybe they did something about them having the event. Oh, I don't know. I don't know either okay, well, we'll check it out. Scientology Clips SPTV. It's time for our last book. I don't know. I don't know either.
Speaker 4:Okay, well we'll check it out. Scientology clips SPTV it's time for our last book.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Just in time.
Speaker 3:Okay, Mark, you're up.
Speaker 2:Okay, let me catch up in the chat.
Speaker 3:Here Chatted you, chat chat, okay so just as a reminder for everybody, this is our last giveaway of tonight's live. Thank you so much to everybody who joined us. Don't forget to like and subscribe to both of our channels at Mike Rinder and at Blown For Good. We appreciate your support. And now our final giveaway is a signed copy of Mark's book Blown For Good Behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology, signed by both Mark and Claire.
Speaker 1:Oh you have a future, Claire. You have a future doing PSAs and ad reads.
Speaker 4:Aw, thank you.
Speaker 1:Fairy Spun Fibers what?
Speaker 4:a great name.
Speaker 2:There you go, fairy Spun Fibers, you're the big winner tonight. Yay, fairy Spun Fibers, our last winner of the night, woo-hoo.
Speaker 3:Yay, woo-hoo, congratulations, fairy Spun Fibers, big winner tonight. Yay, our last winner of the night. Yay, woohoo, congratulations, fairy. Fairy spun fibers. Please send me an email claire at blownforgoodcom with your address and we will gladly ship you your book nice, all righty oh, claire well, that was good, that was fun guys, that was loads of fun we also had like five new ideas for new videos that we talked about.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, and we have a very full agenda now for our november 4th fundraiser. Holy moly, there's going to be all kinds of goodness. Oh, somebody else just put in a super chat.
Speaker 2:We may as well put that up, since we're still here mike, please on a saturn out, if everyone could keep andrew gold their thoughts and prayers. He lost family members because from the US and their children were taken across the border into Gaza. Oh, that's horrible. Thanks, mickey.
Speaker 3:Oh no.
Speaker 2:OK, give everybody you know, keep your Andrew and your thoughts for that. That's a bummer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that is a bummer.
Speaker 2:Oh God, Good job there, Mickey. You really just take the end there.
Speaker 3:Well, no, it's okay, we'll reach out to Andrew and see what we can do to help?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll see what we can do.
Speaker 3:We appreciate the heads up. Andrew is a great friend of all of ours. He does really great work, so he has our full support.
Speaker 1:He does. Okay, the only outro I have is mine. Do we have a more generic one somewhere, Mark?
Speaker 2:No, that's fine, you can do that one. I have a really generic one, with all you bunch of guys yapping we know what you're talking about, Mark.
Speaker 3:That was supposed to be our little secret, mark, but I didn't load that into your channel, so you don't have it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, a little secret mark, but I didn't load that into your channel, so you don't have it on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Well, I was tempted.
Speaker 4:I was like there's a new intro in there you can play.
Speaker 1:Don't tell Mark, he'll never find out. Yes, Okay so we're done. Look at that. One hour and 31 minutes, yay, one hour, and 32.
Speaker 4:Thanks watching.
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