Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Marc Headley worked at Scientology’s secret desert compound, which houses all Scientology management, for 15 years. The 500-acre property is located deep in the California desert. The local townspeople were told lectures and films were made there. But is that all that was happening? It is the location of a multi-million dollar home for L. Ron Hubbard, built two decades after his death. It is the home of Scientology’s current leader, David Miscavige. So what really happens at the Int Base? Are the stories on the internet true? How does Scientology conduct management of its day-to-day operations? Could stories of armed guards, weapons, staff beatings, and razor wire fences be true? If so, how could a facility like this exist in modern-day America? Hundreds of staff tried to escape over the years. Some succeeded but were never seen or heard of again, and most failed. Why were people kept here? What really went on at the headquarters of Scientology? This is the story of what happened behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology.
Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
When Your Mother Writes Letters to Dead People Instead of Her Grandchildren - Scientology Secrets #10
When a bizarre letter surfaced on the internet, Marc Headley immediately recognized the signature—"Trudy Hensley, Letter Writer." This wasn't just any Scientology recruitment attempt; it was written by Marc's own mother, who remains deeply entrenched in the organization while completely disconnected from her family.
The letter itself is absurd enough: "Well done on purchasing a book in 1999!!!" it exclaims, attempting to recruit someone who bought a Scientology book 26 years ago (and who, as it turns out, has been deceased for years). But beneath this strange marketing failure lies a heartbreaking family story that exposes Scientology's ruthless policies on family separation.
Marc and Claire walk us through Scientology's "central files" system—an elaborate tracking mechanism that, according to L. Ron Hubbard policy, can never be deleted. Once your information enters these files, you're tracked for life, and apparently beyond. The organization obsessively measures statistics like "letters out" and "letters in," believing that sheer volume of communication will inevitably lead to new recruits.
Trudy's journey within Scientology included years in the Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF), Scientology's notorious labor camp, after fighting with a high-ranking Religious Technology Center representative. Marc shares a particularly painful memory of David Miscavige himself mocking his mother during a staff meeting, calling her "the dumbest bitch in all of the Sea Org." Despite this degrading treatment, she continues to volunteer for the organization while maintaining zero contact with her own grandchildren.
This episode provides a rare window into how Scientology's disconnection policy tears families apart, and how the organization's bizarre recruitment practices continue unchanged despite their obvious ineffectiveness. For anyone who's ever wondered how cults maintain control over members even when they're being mistreated, this story offers powerful insights straight from those who lived it.
Have you experienced similar cult recruitment tactics or family disconnection? Share your thoughts in the comments, and don't forget to subscribe to hear more firsthand accounts of life inside Scientology's secre
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Hey guys, welcome back to the channel. Welcome to another episode of Blown for Good Scientology Exposed. I am joined today by my lovely wife Claire.
Speaker 2:Hey, hey, hey, thanks for joining us today, everybody.
Speaker 1:We have a little bit of a different episode today.
Speaker 2:Don't we always?
Speaker 1:We try to keep. We try to. You know we try to do different stuff on here. We try to do what people like to hear about. But we got sent a photo on the internet and, um, and we're going to go through that, but, as we always do, let people get their notifications and let them get a chance to get in here. If you want to uh enter into today's giveaway that we're going to do on the channel, all you have to do is comment and, uh, what we'd like to do is we'd like to see where you guys are coming from or where you're watching from. So, if you want to put in the comments where you're watching from, we'll take a minute to go through those and then, once we have a certain amount of people in here, then we'll fire it up and we'll get into the main meat and potatoes of the video Sounds like a plan.
Speaker 1:Let's see here, here we go. Sounds like a plan. Let's see here here we go.
Speaker 2:You get to read them for today, since my computer is still firing.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, I got to do everything At the last second. This computer just wouldn't turn on, so we got another one, and supposedly that one doesn't turn on it might not be the computer, if you know what I mean, guys. Hey now wait a minute.
Speaker 2:To be full disclosure, that was not my computer that died, it was yours, this is mine, but I will take responsibility for the fact that it was dead.
Speaker 1:So we swapped out one dead computer for another dead computer, yeah. Is that cord plugged in, that you're plugged into there? Yep, okay, well, katie D from Ireland is here. Oh yay, joseph Brian Stanley from Speedway Indiana.
Speaker 2:Nice. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1:We got Tracy Hobart from Wyoming.
Speaker 2:Awesome.
Speaker 1:We got Trevenon from Netherlands. As always, he's a frequent flyer, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yes, netherlands in the house. We appreciate you, trevon, for being here.
Speaker 1:And then we've got Em from Washington State, tricia from Sunland, california, lauren B from Maryland, amelia Seven from Nova Scotia. Necessary Trouble from Glasgow Montana, my all-time favorite YouTube handle. Necessary Trouble from Glasgow Montana.
Speaker 2:My all-time favorite YouTube handle Necessary Trouble.
Speaker 1:We got Mary Kay, london from Albuquerque, haggis Basher from Toronto, jamie from Southern Utah, december from East Tennessee, carla from the UK, nice and from Sweden. We've got a lot of diversity here in the locations. I love it. Ddk hello for Scientology. Free Rhode Island, yes. Purple Groovy 69, st Louis, missouri.
Speaker 2:Oh nice, we haven't seen Purple Groovy for a little bit.
Speaker 1:I don't think, yeah, welcome back Jack Shaw 809 from Henderson Nevada. It haven't seen Purple Groovy for a little bit. I don't think. Yeah, welcome back Jack Shaw 809 from Henderson Nevada. It's only 98 today. It's a chilly 98 in Henderson, it's a lot. And then we got Ellie from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2:Awesome Sounds good.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, lots of people in here and we have Scientology Peeling the Onion from Las Vegas. Yay, mark's been putting out. I did a bunch of interviews on Mark Fisher's channel that's Scientology Peeling the Onion. Him and Janice both live in Las Vegas and we did I've done a bunch of interviews on their channel over the years, but he's been cutting up them into shorts.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:And most of them are David Miscavige related. So I think he just put another one of those out today. So if you guys want to go over there and check out Scientology, peeling the Onion, he's got a lot of fun stuff on there. Mark Fisher was in Religious Technology Center and he was directly under David Miscavige. What am I supposed to call him David Miscavige? What am I supposed to call him Miscavige? He was under David Miscavige for many years and he was the corporate liaison in charge. So like there used to be a thing in Religious Technology Center where if Religious Technology Center was dealing with other parts of Scientology that really weren't like, I think, the ecclesiastical I don't exactly know the do you know what the origin of that office is? Why corporate liaison?
Speaker 2:It was, and. Mark would know the answer better, but it was basically like you know and again we've talked about how RTC religious technology technology center is represented as a flag corporate liaison was just the, the language that made it that they could go into any organization and get david miscavige's orders done yeah, anyway corporate liaison, meaning they can go anywhere and do anything I mean, you don't really need a title for that in psychology but they came up with one.
Speaker 1:Now they just do that. Yeah, exactly, that's just a normal thing. David Miscavige just does whatever he wants.
Speaker 2:He got rid of all of upper management, so he's just, you know.
Speaker 1:Anyway, Mark Fisher was in Religious Technology Center right under David Miscavige.
Speaker 2:So most of the stories he left very shortly after we got there, maybe even before you got there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was gone. But by the time I got there, yeah. So there was a there was like a year crossover period where I was there and he was there and the main thing that david miscavige was working on in golden era was where where I worked, right. So I had a lot of dealings with david miscavige and when mark fisher was there, a lot of dealings with David Miscavige. And when Mark Fisher was there, a lot of dealings with Mark Fisher.
Speaker 2:So we share some stories, and you talk about Mark in your book too.
Speaker 1:That's true, Mark Fisher. There's a whole section in there where David Miscavige basically gives him the beat down.
Speaker 2:Right, and that was the first time you witnessed David Miscavige physically abuse a staff member.
Speaker 1:Yeah, In 1990. Like just directly Right, what the hell is going on? Yeah, that was a little wild. Even for that place it was a little wild.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Okay, I think we're ready to do this. We've already got like almost 200 people in here, so thank you for joining us guys. Oh let me do a shameless plug before we get get into your computer working. You can't do anything until you get your computer working. That's your assignment.
Speaker 2:No plugs for you, no no, I'm, I'm doing it anyway, um, as we did last week. Oh, there we go. As we did last week. Um, this, the BFG show will redirect automatically to our foundation feed, series number three, which will begin at 3 pm Mountain Time. We'll have Catherine Olson on as a guest, talking with Phil and I about life after Scientology and how the Aftermath Foundation helped her escape and get on her feet. It will be a wonderful conversation and we'll also have news and updates. So thank you so much to everyone who has helped us grow that channel. We were approved for monetization, so we're well on our way to our 10K subscriber count, which is when we will be able to initiate and originate foundation fundraisers on the.
Speaker 1:Aftermath channel.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:And those of you who don't know, the Aftermath Foundation itself is already an approved YouTube charity, Of course. So if you go to the story of Sergio Obolinski on our channel, that video supports the Aftermath Foundation and any donations or anything that's made in that it. It says fundraiser and you can just click right on it.
Speaker 2:So on our channel.
Speaker 1:Yes, On BFG, right yeah.
Speaker 2:Because, because to to originate or have any video that supports a fundraiser, a YouTube channel has to have 10,000 subscribers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay. There you go Is that is that the are you done with your shameless plug.
Speaker 2:Yep, I'm done.
Speaker 1:Eight minutes in guys, we might even be able to do a video here Okay, is your computer turned on yet?
Speaker 2:I declined to mention it's powering up. Now I'm making progress. Good job, babe, good job.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, how do we? We got to? We got to kind of set this up for how this is Okay In Scientology, in a Scientology organization. So as opposed to, as opposed to. Well, actually all Scientology organizations in the world are required to do this. So this actually does apply to any Scientology organization. L Ron Hubbard wrote a policy about sending letters out to your central files. So if somebody comes in and buys a Dianetics book, they go into the files. If they do a course on how to success through communication, they buy a course or they do anything in Scientology and they capture your identity.
Speaker 2:Yep, even if they just take the personality test. That's true. Yeah, even if you take that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, any any physical way that Scientology captures your identity. You are now in what is referred to as their central files, and L Ron Hubbard was very, very particular that these files can only be added to. They can never be deleted. They can never be destroyed. No name in the files can ever be gotten rid of. They can mark them as dead files so people know not to contact that person, but you cannot remove the contact information out of the files.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and even to be fair, the dead file system has many flaws. Like we should have been dead filed when we were declared suppressive.
Speaker 1:Let's not nitpick, babe. If anything, Scientology has many flaws, not just their filing system.
Speaker 2:Yes, not to state the obvious, but yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. So L Ron Hubbard says you make the files, you make the files bigger. You never get rid of the files, If anything. If somebody proves antagonistic or a suppressive person, then you can mark their file as a dead file. And yes, we have both technically should have been dead filed, but we have been called and we have been sent mailing items from Scientology. Even though they purport to not want us to come there, they still try to get us to come back in many different forms and ways. Okay, so that's sort of the setup for this. There is another policy where L Ron Hubbard directs all Scientology organization staff members to send letters to these files. They're supposed to write and I don't remember it exactly, which is probably a good thing, but there's a policy that says the number of pieces sent to the mailing list, not the quality, determines the income of an organization, or some such bullshit.
Speaker 2:Yes, and sorry, just to back up for a minute too. Organizationally, any organization in Scientology has seven divisions, and all the letter writing and all this type of activity that we're talking about occurs in division two, which is known as the dissemination division. That's correct. Mm-hmm, which is known as the dissemination division. That's correct.
Speaker 1:So the dissemination, but also other divisions, are also required to send letters to these people. So if you're in the dissemination division you might send a letter to somebody saying, hey, you bought a book and we'd like you to get started on your next thing. And then if somebody has not called in or hasn't come into the organization in many years, then very possibly somebody from the qualifications division, division five.
Speaker 2:Yep. Would then send a letter saying hey, we haven't seen you in a while, and that would be from the department of correction or like Well, usually they would call an all hands, like if there's not an actual letter writer post, then they'll say, okay, we're going to do an all hands.
Speaker 1:Everybody everybody.
Speaker 2:So that's key because they'll have some other position or post. But when they come in for the all hands, their hat is letter writer.
Speaker 1:That's true. Yeah, that's exactly. This is a good point, that's a good setup.
Speaker 2:Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1:Okay so finally so there's a lot of. So there's a lot of pieces to this, but essentially all Scientology staff members and Sea Org members internationally are usually per L Ron Hubbard's policies, they are required to write letters to these central files. Yes, and there is actually a statistic in a Scientology organization and it's called letters out and letters in Yep. And then they have another statistic that's called BMO bulk mail out. That's not a letter. Bulk mail out, that's not a letter. That's when you say we're going to have an event on Saturday the 15th and we're going to dress up like cartoon characters and we're going to try to get as much money from you as possible, and then they send that to everybody. That's in that organization's central files. Okay, good, this is good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Differentiation between promotional pieces that's right and actual letters. So you got letters out letters in and BMO Right.
Speaker 1:And those statistics the letters out and letters in, are the statistics of the division one in HCO, the Department of Communications. Okay, so see, I used to be a hazard a. Hubbard area secretary. So I know these things and I would-.
Speaker 2:I was over HCO at one point in religious technology.
Speaker 1:And you didn't know L no. Anyway, okay. So if you basically in Scientology the thinking is, if you send a thousand letters out, you're going to get a proportionate of letters back in. If you send zero letters out, technically you should get zero letters in.
Speaker 2:Because the Hubbard principle outflow equals inflow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, so you always have to be outflowing to be able to then inflow, okay. So, there's actually a quote from Alron Hubbard said he's talking about outflow equals inflow, and he goes in fact, if somebody were to get shot and they immediately outflowed a bullet, they may not even be injured. Anyway, this is a real thing, right? I'm not making that up.
Speaker 2:No, that's in the documentation on the cycle of communication.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's right, anyway, it wasn't a medical genius, we'll give him that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have seen people outflow bullets while inflowing bullets and they they're still injured. Yeah, even if it's the same bullet kind of bullets yeah okay, so that's a good setup for all of this nonsense okay oh my god um, and even at golden era productions we we didn't have.
Speaker 1:We had letters out like the. The division one had their own letters out but we had what were called OGO letters, which was the org gold officer and staff members and Sea Org members that lived at the international base that worked at Goldeneye Productions. We would write to Scientology staff members that worked in Scientology organizations. We didn't write to general public Scientology organizations. We didn't write to general public. We wrote to Sea Org members and and Scientology staff members that worked in the various organizations and we would send them.
Speaker 1:It would be like hey, did you guys get your minimum stock of the of the we stand tall music cassettes, love Mark Ogo officer, whatever it was Boston or whatever org. I had New Jersey or New Haven or something like that and and I was required to to send like 20 of those a week. There's only like 25 people at the organization. So these guys are getting a letter from me essentially every week. That just says it's just got some dumb question. I want to say, in all the years that I worked at Golden Air Productions and that I wrote these letters, I don't remember ever getting an answer from one person.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Maybe once or twice they'd say like they would just write on the letter Thanks, we are, we have our stock. And then they just put it right back in the envelope. And also, by the way, this is all sent in Scientology's internal mail pack system, so each organization will just put a FedEx together and then send that to LA and then send that to LA yeah.
Speaker 1:And then LA sorts it and they sort all the mail from that organization to all the other organizations, because of course Scientology cannot use the United States postal system because that could be infiltrated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that would be out security. Their mail and would result in a condition of enemy.
Speaker 1:Their mail would get intercepted, like they do to all of their, their members.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, talk about that.
Speaker 2:Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Speaker 1:I mean, we can intercept your mail, but hey, we don't want our mail intercepted?
Speaker 2:No, absolutely not. So put that anyway, that's a really good point right. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's kind of wild.
Speaker 2:It is wild that they don't want their mail to be intercepted, but they intercepted all of our mail and yet for 30 years we never had mail that had not been intercepted.
Speaker 1:When we worked at the base.
Speaker 1:when we got our mail it had already been opened and read before we got it, and if we sent something out we had to leave it unsealed so somebody could read it and then seal it when they were done right or they could even take stuff out, like if we sent pictures, or they could take that stuff out and sometimes not even send the letter, right, just shred it or put it in your file, yeah, and be like and put a note on it saying we didn't send this. There was an end, or he included some information that we felt was not correct or something.
Speaker 2:That was secured.
Speaker 1:And they wouldn't even tell you. Maybe if you did something really wild like hey, come get me, then they'd probably go and say, hey, what's up with that?
Speaker 2:Of all the people there. No staff member would try that. I mean, you know, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1:I heard, I've heard uh stories because, well, because, yeah, because I worked with people that were, some of my friends, were in the department three, so they tell us stories and then we'd hear stuff and be like what anyway, okay, that's a lot of setup. Let's get to this.
Speaker 2:Let's get to this fun stuff here.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:You'll never guess what.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:My computer is working.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Do we have the letter in this thing?
Speaker 2:Yes, we do Okay, Yep.
Speaker 1:Okay, guys, somebody sent me this photo. This is amazing. Somebody sent me this photo. I don't know where it came from. I think it's on reddit or it's on twitter, it's somewhere x, it's somewhere out there on the interwebs. Someone sent it to me and said hey, I saw this. Is this? Does you? Do you know who this is? And um, okay, let's just start it. We'll just put it up here. This, this is my mother.
Speaker 2:Her name is trudy hensley I don't get to be on the screen anymore uh, I guess I can put you in here too.
Speaker 1:There we go, we're both squeezing in there.
Speaker 2:All right, there we go this is trudy hensley.
Speaker 1:Is there another good layout for this? You did. You whack up these layouts no let me see if there's a yeah, there's one right there.
Speaker 2:You want me to do it it? Oh no.
Speaker 1:I don't know. We'll do that one. I like that one better. Okay, trudy Hensley, this is my mother. She was in the when I joined the Sea Org when I was 16, I recruited my sister for the Sea Org and then my sister worked Actually, we both worked at Able International in Los Angeles, which is a Scientology organization responsible for Narconon, criminon, applied Scholastics and the Way to Happiness Foundation, and it is a Sea Org organization. I recruited my sister. My sister was actually in charge of letters out and letters in and I was in charge of recruitment.
Speaker 2:It's all going to make sense. She was writing letters out and I was in charge of recruitment.
Speaker 1:It's all gonna make sense. She was writing letters out and get letters in, but I wasn't getting any people in. She was actually the only person I got in. Yeah, okay, then several years later I don't know who recruited her, if my sister recruited her or if my mom just joined. I actually don't know the story on that. I just know that my mother then also joined the C organization and my mother was supposed to become an operating Phaeton course room supervisor, so she would supervise people that were getting the secret OT levels one through eight. She was at AOLA, so she was doing one through five or one through six and then you can do seven at there.
Speaker 2:No six and seven are at FLAG.
Speaker 1:Okay, so she would do up to five at AOLA. So you find out all about Zinu and she was a course supervisor there and then she had to go to FLAG. I think she had to go to FLAG to Florida to be trained on how to become an OT supervisor.
Speaker 2:Right, which was during in 1996, for the golden age of tech.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not, I'm not trying, I'm not trying to make this that long, but you need to know the backstory to understand the insanity of where we're, where we're going to get to here.
Speaker 2:Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1:So in the C organization she went through her operating. Thayton levels. She did some before, but she did some in the C org as well and she trained to become an OT supervisor in the C org, that's right, yeah, okay. When you do any kind of counseling or training in Scientology, if you're in the C organization, you do not pay for that. You sign a note saying, yeah, I'm a C org member, I'm good. If I bail, you can bill me.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, so she did all that.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:When she was training in Florida, she got into a fight with an RTC staff member.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she got into a number of fights actually, to be fair.
Speaker 1:Oh, I only knew about one. She was hey the other one he beat the shit out of me when I was growing up, so I don't it's not a surprise to me that she's a violent, angry person, the other ones were with her husband at the time, who?
Speaker 2:was also a member of the sea organization. His name was burt. Yes, and I remember because burt smith yes, there you go. So she was trudy smith, yeah, and he came in to work one day. I was training to become an rtc rep yeah, and he had all these scratches and bruises and like what's going on with burt? And he and somebody said, oh, trudy, beat him up. I was like ohops. My mother-in-law is getting a mighty fine reputation around here.
Speaker 1:She liked to throw fists.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:She liked to scrap. Okay Okay, that was a little bit of a side note I didn't know all that much about, but either way, we didn't have a whole lot of time for notes when we were in the organization. Now she gets into these fights in Florida and she ends up getting into a fight with a religious technology representative.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And her name is Marina Pazotti.
Speaker 2:Yeah Was she has since passed away. I think she had cancer or yeah was Was. She has since passed away.
Speaker 1:I think she had cancer or yeah. Anyway, marina Pizzotti I liked Marina. Marina was actually kind of a wild gal she was. She was a bit of fun, okay.
Speaker 2:She could get her mean streak.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, no problem, she could switch to.
Speaker 2:She wasn't like the Jenny Linsons of the world, like through and through pure evil.
Speaker 1:She wasn't diabolical, but if she needed to get nasty she could switch on nasty real easily and very effectively. Yes, for sure I knew her because she was on a mission to AOSHEU, which is the Advanced Organization of St Hill Europe, in Denmark, copenhagen, on Jambonagé, when we were renovating it there across from Scala I don't know if Scala is still there or Tivoli, but it's right down there in Copenhagen and she went there to do an ethics mission.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And when they were there doing the ethics mission, people were escaping. As soon as they showed up, people started just skedaddling because they whatever. Whenever you're in the Sea Org and an epics mission shows up, that basically means everyone in the entire place is going to get interrogated and they're going to find out any and all nonsense that's going on, because if you don't rat yourself out, somebody else will rat you out. Oh, the light went out again. You know, I ordered a new one of these signs but I had to hot wire this one that the power supply melted into a ball, and then I I re, I rewired it with something else, but it's not living up. So anyway, nobody can even see that. There you go. That light it's out, sorry, back to the story, okay, okay, so she gets in a fight with Marina Pizzotti and Marina and Marina Pizzotti assigns her to the Rehabilitation Project Force. Yes, just like hey, you can't fight an RTC staff member. I'm the boss of everybody. My boss is David Muscavage. You're going to the RPF Right.
Speaker 1:For anybody who's new watching the channel, the RPF is the Rehabilitation Project Force and it's a Scientology labor camp that Sea Org members do. That can last anywhere from two years to 15 years and you do hard labor all day and either in the morning or at night. You get interrogated about everything you've ever done in your life and you get reprogrammed, so to speak. If you make it through the RPF, you've had a good amount of reprogramming or Scientology brainwashing like forcefully done to you every single day for years at a time. There's no days off. You do it until you're done and it we literally know people who have been on it over a decade.
Speaker 2:Right, and your mom was on it for at least three or four, maybe five years At least Most.
Speaker 1:I would say half her Sea Org career was spent on the RPF. Yeah, at least, if not a significant portion of it, many, many years.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Which is actually funny. I just think of that. I just thought of this. You know who else went to the RPF for a long time?
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Your mom.
Speaker 2:Yep, your mom and my sister.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. And those are all the guys that are doing hate videos on us. They all went to the RPF. Yes, screw them, okay. So my mom gets into a fight.
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's also relevant for what we're talking about here, sure it is we're going to show, because the whole purpose of the Rehabilitation Project Force is to reprogram your soul into a robot that will do exactly what it's supposed to yeah, stop getting up to nonsense and do what we tell you to do Right, exactly.
Speaker 1:Okay, so my mom, trudy Hensley, she's now Trudy Smith. She was Trudy Morgan, then she became Trudy Hedley, then she became Trudy Kingsbury, then she became Trudy Smith, then she became Trudy, something or other, some it was like a foreign guy, right? I can't remember his name. Even I don't remember that one yeah there was a foreign guy for it, like Pablo or Dominguez, or I don't know. Anyway, then she became Trudy Hensley, and that's what she is today.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:As of recently, within the last few weeks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, as of 2025, for sure.
Speaker 1:So when she was Trudy, she might have been Trudy Smith or she might have been the next Trudy when this happened. Yes, when she went to the RPF. Yeah, okay, she goes to the RPF. And what they basically claimed is and we are going to get a little teeny bit into the weeds here but if you go on an e-meter and you're getting an interrogation on the e-meter and the e-meter does what's called a rock slam, the needle of the e-meter shakes and rattles erratically all over the dial. That's called a rock slam.
Speaker 2:now, if that happens, it's like slashing back and forth with absolutely no control violent slashing yes, the needle yes, okay.
Speaker 1:If the needle rock slams when somebody is getting interrogated, there's only two possibilities. Yep, two, the meter is faulty yep or that person is super evil right and it's called a rock slam, it's called a evil purpose.
Speaker 2:They have an evil purpose and they and it's called a list one list one rock slammer yeah, which means one is um, it, uh, it's a, an actual list, but it means that the person has evil intentions towards Scientology L Ron Hubbard, david Miscavige, like very specific core subjects, not just like, oh, they have evil intentions towards turtles. It's not like that is list. One is they have a rock slam on specific subjects directly related to Scientology, which means that they uh, yeah, and so much so. By the way, when you talk about the two reasons that if the e-meter, the lie detector in Scientology, begins to have this needle phenomena, the very first thing the person operating the e-meter must do is immediately do this whole check to see if it's the meter that's malfunctioning.
Speaker 2:They have to write that down in the worksheets that they did that, and if that test does not show any fault, then it's validated as an actual list. One rock slam.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is a huge deal in Scientology and there was a period I want to say it was in the 1970s or the 80s where people were just being declared suppressives and saying they're rock slammers all over the place, and it turned out this all comes back to me really it turns out that the E-meters that were made at Golden Era Productions were, in fact, faulty and that's why all these people were getting these needle reactions, because children were soldering these things and they had bad solder joints and bad solder connections. To be fair, this was before I worked at Golden Era Productions, but during the time that I did work there, there were children still soldering the E-meters.
Speaker 2:I had to solder E-meter parts as part of all hands.
Speaker 1:Does not know how to solder.
Speaker 2:Right, does not know how to solder at all.
Speaker 1:Okay, anyway.
Speaker 2:Well, thanks for that.
Speaker 1:So it's such a big deal. Cold solder joint queen over here, okay, does not thanks for that. So it's such a big deal. Cold solder joint queen over here, okay, does not let it flow. The solder needs to flow and then you know, you're good. That's the key, the solder, okay. So she gets in a fight with Marina. She gets an interview, the meter rock slams. They don't check the meter, they don't do none of that, they just say, of course you're evil. Marina said you were evil.
Speaker 2:Now the meter saying you fought with Marina. Yeah, you're just see, I wouldn't want to be yeah.
Speaker 1:See you next Tuesday. Okay, so now she gets assigned to the RPF. Yep, now, every single day she writes a report and says I shouldn't be on the RPF, this chick is. She started it.
Speaker 2:I didn't get a committee of evidence. This is an injustice.
Speaker 1:She tries to use all the Scientology policies.
Speaker 2:My statistics were up. I was doing great things. My students were raving about me.
Speaker 1:She sends a report every single day that she's on the RPF, yeah, okay, and I have to tell you all this because when you see what she's doing now, you will not believe it.
Speaker 2:It won't make any sense. Aside from hate videos yeah, she also has done hate videos on us, so whatever.
Speaker 1:Maybe she, maybe they were right, I don't know. Anyway, whatever on us, so whatever Maybe she.
Speaker 2:maybe they were right I don't know.
Speaker 1:Anyway, whatever, oh gosh, okay, she writes a report every day. Whatever she's going, she's, that's it she. And when you write a report in Scientology, if something horrible has happened and there's been an injustice and L Ron Hubbard's policies have been violated, you're supposed to send a report to the reports officer. Rtc.
Speaker 2:Correct.
Speaker 1:And then you can send them to your local organization and you can copy people. It's a lot of work to write a report in Scientology because you might need to make 60 copies of the thing to send it to all the different people that have to get a copy of this thing.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And also none of the people are required to do anything with it. They can just put it to shredding and no one will know anything about it. I mean, there's policies that you're supposed to do stuff, but they can easily not, but not if it's written on somebody who's upstate.
Speaker 1:Well, either way, ethics protected, that's true, Okay, so she writes these reports. Years go by, she's still writing these reports every day. She's still on the RPF and I think eventually she became part of the. They have a mill, a wood mill, a furniture mill in Clearwater that makes all the furniture for their hotels and their buildings and they make all their own furniture with CNC machines and planers and edgers and all the stuff you need to make furniture and that's where she works. Actually, for my birthday one year she sent me a bunch of wood scraps that she called a demo kit and it was in an old ice cream package. Like you know, if you buy like a half a gallon of ice cream it's a plastic tub. It was in one of those, all the pieces and it was like happy birthday, that was my birthday.
Speaker 2:You know what they say? It's a thought.
Speaker 1:It's a good one, babe. Okay. So now it's like three, four years later, David Miscavige is having this meeting with us and he had just been in Florida the day before. And in this meeting he's telling the story and he, he basically we're kind of waiting for some people to arrive Like he called somebody like hey, go get this person. And while we're waiting for him to get that person to the meeting, he just likes to vamp. This is his thing, he, he, he will, he will find a reason to stop the meeting, that we all have to wait and we can't continue what we were talking about. And during that time he vamps and he starts, he starts off this meeting.
Speaker 1:I remember this like it was yesterday. He basically says you guys are never going to believe I met the dumbest bitch in all of the Sea Org. That's exactly what he said. Those were the exact words. He goes it's this blonde dingbat that's in the mill in at flag and she's on the rpf for some stupid thing and there's no way she should even be on the rpf, but she's so stupid that they let her be on the rpf. Yeah, that I just was like whatever, leave her there.
Speaker 2:She's not going to be any good anywhere else yeah, she's literally and again to reiterate, these are you're quoting David Miscavige on what he was saying, word for word.
Speaker 1:And also this was going on for like 15 minutes. Whoever this person was, they were not nearby. They had to round them up from the building across the property and also the property's 548 acres. So if you're on the other side, it could take 15 minutes to get to wherever you got to get to. Okay, so we're having this meeting. He's talking about this chick and he's like she's so stupid and she's blonde. To top it all off, she's also blonde and every question I answer is just like she is literally a robot. She's the stupidest person, and I'm like thinking to myself hmm, I knew a little bit enough about her story that she got in a fight and she went to the RPF, which is kind of a wild thing. I don't know anyone else in the entirety of the Sea Org who went to the RPF for just getting in a fight. People get in fights all the time, like there's a fight every day at the gold base. It's not uncommon. People get in fights all the time, true, like there's a fight every day at the gold base.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not uncommon for people to dust it up over dumb things and nothing to happen.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, I mean David.
Speaker 1:Miscavige, is going around beating everybody. So it's not like, and he, he, he leads by example. So when somebody doesn't get something done and he gives them a beat down, then that person, when they're yelling at their people, they give their people a beat down, and so on and so on. It's like that Clairol commercial, anyway, okay, okay. So the meeting ends and everybody leaves and I pulled two of the people that were in Florida aside it's actually Angie Blankenship and Jenny Linson.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:I pulled them aside and I say hey, and they look like oh yeah, they know. Like as soon as I walk up to them, they're like shit, we're fucked.
Speaker 2:They know what's coming.
Speaker 1:Anyway I go, hey, he's talking about my mom, right, and they're like your mom's Trudy Hensley, right. And I said or Trudy Smith or whatever the frick her name was then and I go, yeah, it was Trudy. I want to say it was Trudy Smith. Yeah, I want to say it was Trudy Smith. At that time she hadn't changed her name or whatever it was. They knew that we had some connection.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And they said, yeah, it was her. And I said you know, she writes a report every single day. They go yeah, we know. And then this is like but there's no way we can do anything because she is the one who had the conversation with him, so we can't get involved. It's just we. We're not going to stick up for her because she couldn't stick up for herself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like they could never say, oh well, sir, actually she like. When he says, oh, she's so stupid she shouldn't even be on the rpf, yeah, the logical thing you'd say is, well, sir, actually she's been doing, you know, writing reports on this whole. Thing every single day for the last three years. But if they say that, then they are going to become the target of miscavige's wrath that's right and he's going to tell them their worker oriented and blah, blah, blah, yeah, in this c?
Speaker 1:org. You don't fall Sea Org. You don't fall on your a sword. You don't fall on someone else's sword. No, that's not a thing.
Speaker 2:No, it's not.
Speaker 1:If you, if you, if you dug yourself into a hole, that's your hole, you, you get it. I'm not. I'm not jumping in there with you, right, for no reason.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Okay, here's the clincher. She's been writing these reports to RTC every single day. Well, after she got in a fight with this gal, the RTC Marina, she got taken away from flag because she was a little bit of a firecracker herself, yep. So when that happened, it was like hey, maybe let's move Marina back to rtc. She's been out there a while and she's dusted it up with people, let's just bring her back to rtc yeah she becomes the rtc reports off.
Speaker 1:So my mom is sending a report to the person that assigned her to the rpf and that person doesn't give two shits about her and I don't even think marina even knew she was related to me no, because she has a different last name. If you knew you knew, but other generally familial relations were never discussed no, and also the organization.
Speaker 2:It would be a mystery yeah, we rarely even knew like which seer members had kids, for example, or you know yeah, exactly, we work with somebody for 20 years and then we get out, we go.
Speaker 1:That was my mom. I was like oh, I didn't even.
Speaker 2:He never even mentioned that he had a kid. Yeah, like I had. Yeah, anyway, that's the point.
Speaker 1:Or she, or whichever.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, so she stays on the RPF, that's it. That RPF, that's it. That's where the story ends, okay, when I escaped, when Claire and I escaped in 2005, my sister worked at the international headquarters. She'd also had a long stint on the RPF too, and Biddy Miscavige is the one that signed her to the RPF. Okay, so when we leave in 2005, january 2005, my sister is in the Sea Org at the International Base. She's the Director of Communications at Golden Air Productions, again in charge of Letters Out and Letters In. Okay, and she my mother was still on the RPF in Florida, at Clearwater, at what they call the Flag Land Base.
Speaker 1:Right in Florida, at Clearwater, at their what they call the flag land base. Right, and they got kicked out of the Sea Org because now they were connected to us, right, and they don't. They don't serve any benefit to the Sea Organization on their own, but because they're connected to us they cannot be in the Sea Organization. They are a liability at this point, right, because we're causing trouble and we're telling all the stories about David Miscavige, so my mother and sister both get basically kicked out of the Sea Org.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I have to think too, though, that a huge part of the threat was that, should they decide to join us, then the stories they would tell us and everything else would exponentially just have ripple effects?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, because they left many years after we did and they also. They were in Florida for long and they were, and my mother had this conversation with David Miscavige, and so they are their own liabilities now that they're connected to us, yeah, which circles back to the reason for the hate sites.
Speaker 2:We've always presumed that we were the primary audience for the hate sites that they do. But I was thinking through it going. Well, why does some people have hate sites and some people don't? And certainly one common denominator of everyone who has a hate website is they have family members still in Scientology.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they need to be made an example of and they need to use those family members against them, because we don't want the family members to turn yes and then they also get. They add to the fold.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just think it's very important to understand the dynamics at play.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's a lot of setup.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I think we're good, we're ready to go Okay, so that's her.
Speaker 1:That's Trudy Hensley, mark's mother.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:That is my sister, Stephanie Hedley. Her new last name is Latine or.
Speaker 2:Latine? I don't know, I don't know how to spell it.
Speaker 1:I don't know how to say it. That's my sister, stephanie. This is also a screenshot from her hate video. And also, this is even better now If you're in the Sea Org and you go to the RPF, you're a shitty Sea Org member. Have you ever been to the RPF? Have I ever been to the RPF?
Speaker 2:We both came very close, but no, the answer is no.
Speaker 1:Years, these two Years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in fact, when we were talking about this before this episode, I was telling you how I had decided my. So my mother was sent to the rehabilitation project force when I was seven years old, and at that time I was going to show a picture of her.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Is she in here too? There she is there that's my mother.
Speaker 2:When I was seven years old, she was sent to the rehabilitation project force. My resolution at that time is if anyone ever tries to send me to the rehabilitation project force, I don't care what happens, I'm out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, also, let's go back to these guys. Okay, trevon put this up Exactly, 100%. He says Scientology. They should thank you for being kicked out of the Sea Org. Yes, yes, that's what I was. I'm like you're welcome, I left and then you got a red carpet right out of there.
Speaker 2:Right, that's how I feel about the people who got to leave and have kids. You're welcome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're welcome. Okay, so this is the photo we got sent, though it is a letter.
Speaker 2:Okay, so this is the photo we got sent, though it is a letter, okay, oh, by the way, trevon also said I was in the hole, though, and that is true. I was in the hole for three months.
Speaker 1:Everybody was in the hole in all of international management. It wasn't selective. There weren't two people in the hole, there was 200. Right, okay, this is from the Church of Scientology of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2:You got to put it on both of us.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, whatever? You're reading it here. I'm going to make it real big, because this is a doozy. Okay, church of Scientology of Cincinnati. Don't get boggled down by logic at any point of this. The Church of Scientology of Cincinnati is located in Florence, kentucky. Now, okay, let's just say okay, I'm pretty sure, cincinnati, the city of Cincinnati is located in Ohio. I understand that Florence, Kentucky is a suburb of Ohio.
Speaker 2:It would be like having having an organization, a Scientology organization, in Greenwood Village, Colorado, and calling it the Denver. That's what it's like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't get boggled down by logic. Don't try to make sense of anything in Scientology.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we do recommend. Do not try to insert logic Anyway this is from this year, folks.
Speaker 1:It says dear bloody blah, good day to you. Very well done on purchasing a book in 1999, exclamation, exclamation, exclamation. Your next step is the Dianetics seminar. Come in today at 283 Main Street, florence, kentucky, 41042. For all the details, best regards Trudy. Trudy Hensley. Letter writer. Okay, now, guys, let's pick this thing apart for a second here, okay, we have a new level of nonsense going on here.
Speaker 1:Folks, I can't make the right there we go. Good day to you. That's okay it is. She does write to the person dear, let's just call him jack, dear, jack, yep, hey, well done, I'm buying that book back in 1999 now. First of all, well done, that's a 100.
Speaker 2:That's a scientology lingo okay, I have an important question for you yes, let. Let me ask you, Mark.
Speaker 1:Yeah, seriously yeah.
Speaker 2:What book did you buy 26 years ago?
Speaker 1:You know, I don't think I've ever bought a book unless it was a required thing for, like when you do the Hubbard Qualified Scientologist course. That's one of the very first courses you do in Scientology.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And when I was I think I did it when I was like 11 or 12. And I was made to buy a Dianetics book. I had to literally get money. I had to make the money. I had to take out garbage in my apartment building and save up like $8. And then they made me buy the book. And I never read the damn thing, but I had to buy it and I even tried to buy an old copy because those were cheaper. And I think they still got me for eight bucks. Yeah, yeah, um, so I think that. Oh, and you know, when we were in the seo, I had to buy an ethics book. Yeah, I had to buy a volume zero and they made us buy all that. You know what? I just realized that they didn't give us those. We had to buy our own materials. We did in the, in the, in the freeloader thing. They don't. You could do the course for free, but you have to buy the material. Yeah, what a hunk of shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, Anyway. So this person bought a book in 1991, 1999.
Speaker 2:26 years ago.
Speaker 1:He's writing him 26 years later to let him know hey, you know what the next thing you're supposed to do is? You're supposed to do the Dianetics seminar. So he probably bought the Dianetics book.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, and to insert a more serious note, this letter is coming from Mark's mother who has never met our three kids, never met her grandchildren.
Speaker 1:Well, no, she met him at a funeral.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, she did one time.
Speaker 1:But she, I mean that's it but like. They don't know who she is and she doesn't know who they are.
Speaker 2:I forgot about that, but she and she didn't anyway. Yeah, but still like. How many letters has she ever written to her grandchildren?
Speaker 1:None.
Speaker 2:None, that was my point.
Speaker 1:But she wrote a letter to good old Jack here and then she says your next step is to seminar. Come in today. Today she gives the address, which the address is in the letter, it's in the on the letterhead. Yep, she's kind of like okay, like you didn't have to do that weak repetition you just say you could come in today at the address up above.
Speaker 2:Let's I mean come on but then it wouldn't have been a full-page letter also.
Speaker 1:And then it just says for all all the details, period.
Speaker 2:Which is not even a grammatically correct English sentence.
Speaker 1:It should be come in today for all the details and then don't even put the address. Just come in today for all the details.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Come on, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Obviously somebody has to use X. In the early days, when you could only get, you only had like so many characters, you had like 44 characters or whatever it was. It's like no use ampersands. Let's take out some of these words. We're getting a little frou-frou here.
Speaker 1:Let's turn this thing down oh my okay and then it says best regards trudy trudy hensley letter. Writer. Now these titles, they're really good. We read these, this letter that they sent all of the companies that I've done work for, and it was like they had in there like freedom rights activist.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know what?
Speaker 1:Mom, but I did want to say Freedom fighter. You know, just yeah.
Speaker 2:Insanity.
Speaker 1:They just have they. Literally they attach significances to everything. She could just write Trudy Headley, cincinnati, org, or you know whatever, or volunteer even yeah but also by the way, also by the way, this is I gotta say this the letter writer is the lowest life form in the c organization well, there's no what else? What else like janitor and, uh, even the janitors is like when something's broken, it's like, hey, no, Phil's not writing any letters. You got to unclog these toilets, Okay.
Speaker 2:Fair enough, fair enough A letter writer is the.
Speaker 1:It's basically like when, when there's shit to get done, yeah, ain't letter writing getting done, no, Letter writing is the least priority of everything, yeah, we gots to get stuff done. Maybe at Golden Air Productions. Yes, I don't know how it was in these organizations, but even when I worked at Los Angeles Day, when I was like 11 or 12, when I was doing that course, I worked and I did the bulk mail. We stuffed letters and we wrote letters and stuff like that. Yeah, and I was 11 and I was writing letters Okay, 11.
Speaker 2:Yes, this was 1984. We have nine minutes Tina Turner. What's?
Speaker 1:love got to do with. It was playing on the radio.
Speaker 2:But here's what I wanted to say yes, Because, because to us this was this was like totally normal. Yeah, that's how you sign letters. But the person that sent this to you made the really good comment Like what kind of marketing is that like make the person feel really important?
Speaker 1:why don't you lonely letter writer also we should just note for the record this person passed away many years ago right before also scient. Before you start trying to track shit down, the person you wrote this to has passed away. Somebody who knows them gave it to their friend, who gave it to their friend, who put it on the Internet.
Speaker 2:And we have no idea who that is.
Speaker 1:Don't mess with any of these people, okay. Your letter writer done, messed up. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:And your mom is writing this letter not from a position of a staff member of the organization, but as a civilian Scientologist.
Speaker 1:She's volunteering because she's not allowed to do anything until she pays off her freeloader debt. So all that money she racked up doing OT, supervisor courses and all that they gave her a bill. And then, after she pays that bill, if she wants to do Scientology again, she has to start over and go from the bottom.
Speaker 2:She's already been paying tens of thousands of dollars over the last few years to redo all of her training. It's absolute insanity.
Speaker 1:We know this because she speaks to all of her family that are not in Scientology and most of the time when she's ringing them up, it's to get some do-re-mi out of them so she can go back and learn about Xenu and the body Thetans again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and every time we hear that we say oh, just tell her to give us a call, or tell her to pound sand.
Speaker 1:Please don give her any money right for space cootie training come on exactly can you imagine no one of her family members giving her like ten thousand dollars so she can relearn about space cooties. No, what a giant waste of funds. Okay, now we have some other. This again this is jen. This is claire's mom, um, and she. She also lives in Clearwater.
Speaker 2:She does.
Speaker 1:My mother lives in. Last time somebody told me she lives next to a strip bar in Kentucky, somewhere like in a little motel unit that's not in the best part of town. My sister lives in Clearwater and works for American Power and Gas. I think his name is Tom Cummins, some big, richy, rich Scientologist, and then your mother and father also live in Clearwater now or in.
Speaker 2:Florida, in the Florida area, yeah, clearwater.
Speaker 1:This is Hugh Claire's stepfather. And he was also did a hate video and he was also named as a Scientology witness when Claire became a Scientology expert.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was named to counter my expert witness testimony on Scientology, which is just a big laughing joke.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Also this photo is, so somebody had to go for us and get all these images from the Scientology hate sites. And Scientology watches our channel because Claire hasn't worn these glasses until we recently did a video on our channel and so they're watching. And also, I don't know, I'm not a Photoshop expert. I mean, I can get around in it.
Speaker 2:It's literally comical.
Speaker 1:But I don't know what's going on with the Sea Org Photoshop team.
Speaker 2:We just wanted to share this. You know whatever. Okay, do whatever you're going to do to my face it's kind of sad that Scientology's tax-exempt dollars are being used to cut my face in half.
Speaker 1:Hey, you know what At least?
Speaker 2:well, actually, you don't even look like you have any teeth and apparently Miscavige, doesn't like my glasses. There you go. They photoshopped out my teeth in my shot, I know, and that's the other thing. I was like wait a minute.
Speaker 1:Like not all of them, just individual ones, Right.
Speaker 2:Like the photo they have of Mark on the website that they sent to us is from like 20 years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but my photo.
Speaker 2:They sliced my face in half and it's from like May of this year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so anyway, go to the next slide.
Speaker 2:So we said welcome our latest OSIS subscribers watching the channel.
Speaker 1:I don't know if the subscribers, but they're definitely getting views.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're getting views anyway. Oh my.
Speaker 1:God Okay, guys.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So you're going to do a giveaway and I'm going to bounce and be ready for to start in four minutes.
Speaker 1:Oh, is that how it is? Yeah, bye everybody We'll see you uh.
Speaker 2:See you shortly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're going to go to um this video after I do the giveaway. This video will automatically feed into the um, the aftermath foundation feed. What is it number three or four? Number three, um, okay, let's do the uh, let's do this. Where's the uh giveaway giveaway screen? Wow, we got a hundred entries so far. If you want to uh comment, uh, you'll be entered into the giveaway. Otherwise, uh, I'm just gonna do it right now. I'm going to go, we'll do this and then I'll answer some questions until the last few seconds before it feeds into the other video.
Speaker 1:And congratulations to Becky, big Brother Fan. I think Becky's won before. I don't know, but I think she has. Congratulations big. Becky, big Brother fan. You know what to do? Email, claire, she'll hook you up. Let's do some questions here. Harvey Denton. I like that, harvey Denton.
Speaker 1:I wonder if doing hate videos was the price of getting off the RPF. You know, I think the hate videos might be of a. You need to. If they want to get out of lower conditions or they want to get onto their OT levels, they need to prove that they're loyal and that they're not talking with us and they're not friends with us, and that's pretty much proves if you're you're loyal, you're gonna do a hate video. So if you know somebody that was in scientology and they have um a um a hate video on them by one of their family members, then that family member is most likely very, very loyal to scientology. Um, burb life says has the blown? Has the light blown for good? I think the light did you know here. Let me see if I go back to it. You know, it's like the power supply I have is a little different than the one that came with it, so I think it just overheats. But, um, anyway, when I went to go get a new one, they said they don't use that power supply anymore. I was like, well, yeah, good thing, mine tried to burn my house down. Okay, what else do? We got here. How many more minutes do we have? We have like another minute or two.
Speaker 1:Do estates orgs have BMO and letters out? You know, I've never worked in an estates org. I would assume they do, because they have to write letters to the organizations like hey, you know your people aren't doing their cleaning stations and we've had to vacuum more than once a year. Make sure your people do that. Japan of Green Gables question. Hi, headways, I'm guessing the reason Scientology officials always sign letters with much love was in policy. Was that Hubbard's rationale for always closing with this Seems very 2D. Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't know where much love comes from. It might be an, uh, l ron hubbard thing and it might just be a c-org thing um, because everybody in the c-org does that. Um, okay, uh, oh, we got another one here. Uh, do estates orgs have bmo and letters in? Yeah, we did that one. This is the one. Our so crew actually getting any grade chart action? Uh, how much. What does the staff section officer really do? It's very, very rare that people do Scientology counseling in the C organization.
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