Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed

The lawyers defending Scientology are becoming judges in California's Supreme Court - Scientology Secrets #11

Marc Headley & Claire Headley Season 9 Episode 11

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Ever wondered how Scientology manages to evade legal consequences for decades of alleged abuses? The answer lies in their sophisticated legal machinery – a system now raising serious ethical questions as former Scientology attorneys ascend to judicial positions.

In this eye-opening episode, Marc and Claire Headley (former Sea Org members with 20+ years inside Scientology) analyze the recent appointment of William Hobbs Foreman to California's Supreme Court by Governor Gavin Newsom. This appointment follows a disturbing pattern first established when Mark Marmorro, who represented Scientology against the Headleys in 2009, was appointed to the same court by Governor Schwarzenegger in 2010.

Drawing from personal experience and meticulous research, the Headleys present documented evidence of Foreman's involvement in four major Scientology cases, where his legal strategies consistently delayed justice for victims while allowing continued harassment. From forcing religious arbitration to arguing that children's "religious obedience contracts" were binding, these tactics protected Scientology from facing jury trials – which Marc notes they've never won.

Most troubling is the revelation that documents from 2021 still link both judges to Scientology cases, raising serious questions about potential conflicts of interest in California's highest court. While judges should ethically recuse themselves from ruling on Scientology matters, their influence extends beyond individual cases to the broader legal environment.

This isn't merely an academic discussion – it's a call to action. The Headleys provide practical resources for filing attorney misconduct complaints, submitting judicial grievances, and contacting Governor Newsom directly. They've even compiled bar numbers for key Scientology attorneys to simplify the process.

Ready to help bring accountability? Watch now to learn how you can participate in creating meaningful change against one of the most litigious organizations in America.

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Speaker 1:

Hey guys, welcome back to the channel. Welcome to another episode of Blown for Good Scientology Exposed. I am, as usual, joined by my lovely wife Claire.

Speaker 2:

Hey, hey, hey, good to be here this fine Sunday.

Speaker 1:

We're going to get to talk about some real fun Scientology stuff again today.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, what's new right? Same old, same old. Another dull moment over here in the world of exposing Scientology. Yeah, I was traveling for the last few weeks world of exposing Scientology.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was traveling for the last few weeks, so, excuse me, we didn't do a video last week, but we're back now and, as usual, we like to give a few minutes for people to get their notifications, to show up in the chat, show up watching the video, and then we like to give shoutouts to those people and, as always, if you do chat in the, if you put something in the comments, you will automatically be entered in to win a giveaway. At the end of the video and this video today, there's going to be a foundation feed, number five video that will be starting at the very end of this video and claire will magically transport to another video in another dimension that's happening on another channel, the aftermath channel. So if you do stick around until the very end, uh, you'll get to find out what the latest foundation news is from claire and phil yes and um.

Speaker 1:

Do you guys have a guest today, or is it just you two?

Speaker 2:

We do. You have a special guest, we have a special guest. Okay, very much looking forward to that conversation. Yes, it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 1:

Awesome. Well, let's find out where people are watching from.

Speaker 2:

Sounds good. Bears Mom, hi, happy Sunday everyone, cher. Good evening from the netherlands. Yay, we love our netherlands folk, trevon on. Happy second saturday from the netherlands, manon. Good evening from the netherlands. Hope to catch a bit and watch the rest on replay nice like have a netherlands only stream for all these folks. Yes, exactly, sue. Hi from Syracuse, nice, nice, scientology peeling the onion in the house. Hello from Las Vegas. It's Mark here, mark Fisher, co-host of Scientology, peeling the onion with Janice Grady. Good to see you, mark Nice.

Speaker 2:

Here I'll put it up on you while you're reading. Okay, techie, good afternoon from Nebraska, nice. Good to see you, k here. I'll put it up on you while you're reading. Okay, techie, good afternoon from nebraska. Good to see you. Uh, katie d, good evening from ireland. Nice to see you here, katie. Necessary trouble, always my favorite. Hello from montana, everyone. Necessary trouble. I think it's a john lewis quote that she told me, or this person told me it was from joseph brian stanley. Greetings from indianapolis. Indiana, nice, sherry n. Hello from minnesota uva-esque. Uh. Hello from washington dc uva-esque, kathy freund. Happy labor day. Weekend from maryland. Yeah, happy everybody.

Speaker 2:

You know it's funny, I was thinking about Labor Day and the irony of, of course, it was a holiday that was never celebrated in this organization.

Speaker 1:

We were working on Labor Day. That's what Labor Day meant in the steel work Get back to work.

Speaker 2:

I think the most that ever happened, which is so ironic in retrospect, is that we were told to wear civilian clothing that day to make it look like we weren't working.

Speaker 1:

That's right On holidays, on regular holidays in the Sea Org, if you worked on like a Christmas or a Thanksgiving or New Year's, any holiday.

Speaker 2:

It's not if you worked when you worked.

Speaker 1:

Well, no, I was saying if we were working on a holiday we had to wear what was called civilians clothes or civvies, and and some people had they joined the sea org in the 70s, so whatever clothes they had in the 70s is what clothes they'd wear on days off. And there was one dude I'll never forget. This guy's name was josh and josh had like a fur, uh, like vest that he would wear.

Speaker 2:

Didn't it have like fringe and stuff like that?

Speaker 1:

I don't know about that babe.

Speaker 2:

Somebody had fringe, I remember.

Speaker 1:

Fringe. What does that mean?

Speaker 2:

Like you know, when you have a jacket that has like the fringes, you know, like dangling down.

Speaker 1:

Oh, like tassels.

Speaker 2:

Yes, tassels.

Speaker 1:

Yes, he did have. He might have had an outfit that had tassels Yep, he might have had an outfit that had tassels, yep, but he would have like a corduroy button-down shirt underneath his fur vest.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it was like he just stepped out of a portal from the 70s. He did look like that Because, sadly, you know, I don't think it was his fashion sense that dictated that, it was the fact that $46 a week if you're lucky doesn't allow much room in the budget for updated clothing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, why can't he just wear his normal urban cowboy gear that he had from the 70s? What does he have to dress up like the current times for? Okay, back to reading.

Speaker 2:

Okay, betsy, sue, hello and greetings from Cameron, north Carolina Did we do this one we did Katie from Ireland.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Jeremy, hello from Canberra, australia, my first live. Woo-hoo Welcome and thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1:

From down under. From down under.

Speaker 2:

Yes, lynette. Hello from Grand Rapids, michigan, sunny and 75. Nice, boom Christina. Hello from Germany Nice, that's awesome. Yeah, we got like, ruth. Hello from Toronto.

Speaker 1:

Very international crowd today.

Speaker 2:

We appreciate it folks. Thanks for showing up Satan's Satan. Hello from London.

Speaker 1:

Satan's Satan.

Speaker 2:

Love that.

Speaker 1:

That's a great one.

Speaker 2:

It is Stana watching from Kansas City.

Speaker 1:

Missouri, it's Stana.

Speaker 2:

Stana. Okay, oh, rhymes with Donna. Sorry, I didn't read the whole thing, obviously. Thanks for catching my typos, my sayos Susie. Hello from Salt Lake City.

Speaker 1:

Sayos, yeah, you know you have a typo and you have a sayo. I think they just call it mispronunciation these days.

Speaker 2:

That's no fun, I think they just call it mispronunciation. That's no fun. Oh, riverside California. Oh, christy Barrow, riverside California, close to Gold Base. We are sad to say we're way too familiar with that area, but thank you for joining us nonetheless. Oh, look who we got here, apostate Alex. Hey, look who it is, der SP london day reporting for duty. Director of suppressive person affairs.

Speaker 1:

Just for anyone joining us that doesn't know the the word salad of abbreviations the vernacular hey um alex is causing all sorts of havoc and in the united kingdom yep, as should, as one should. Out there in St Hill, east Grinstead, sussex, yes, okay, do we have anything else? I think that's pretty good. We did all those. Do we use Salt Lake City? We did that one.

Speaker 2:

Oh see, jacob Harkey appreciates my say-o. Susie, hello from Salt Lake City. Thanks, jacob.

Speaker 1:

Thanks for being on my side. I appreciate it. I don't have, I don't where is it here?

Speaker 2:

I'll grab it. I said I was grabbing it, jacob. Now I'm going to start saying say oh, lol, there you go see. Finally someone appreciates my humor, my dry. English humor.

Speaker 1:

Derek Hitchman says hi, perfect, whoever Derek Hitchman?

Speaker 2:

is thank you for saying hi there, there you go.

Speaker 1:

I think we're good. I think we got. Oh yeah, we're about 100 people in here now. That's usually once we have about 100 people.

Speaker 2:

And, as always, I'd like to give a special shout out to our wonderful mods, clara and Catherine. Thank you for all that you do. We appreciate you so very much.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I do have to say before I forget really yes who cares about whatever.

Speaker 2:

I was going to say you forgot that already.

Speaker 1:

Big shout out to Dr X and Paul.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1:

They sent us a care package from wherever they are, and it had so much junk food.

Speaker 2:

Which our kids are greatly appreciative of Tim Tams, tim Tams Every flavor of Tim Tam.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know, there was so many flavors of Tim Tams. Oh my goodness, I know Strawberry, mint, chocolate caramel.

Speaker 2:

The cabinet on lockup so that our kids don't splurge on them.

Speaker 1:

I forgot to fix the sign. Let's see, all right, I forgot.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we're having a never a dull moment over here in the BFG studio.

Speaker 1:

It did work for a split second.

Speaker 2:

It did. That was better than no seconds at all.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's a new one coming guys, so you know I can't jerry-rig this thing much more than I already have. Thank you, dr X and Paul they also. They were part of some project where they got some really special cool Legos and we have a lot of Lego in our family and adjacent family adjacent.

Speaker 2:

We have a lot of Lego kids, Our family of choice.

Speaker 1:

We have a huge amount of Lego fans Anyway so they sent us a bunch of these amazing like the most amazing Lego kids. It's kind of crazy how many sets they sent. So thank you very much. Yes, dr x and paul, we very much appreciate that and, as always, they sent.

Speaker 2:

They sent us a really nice email, um, on the 21st of august, which was our 33rd wedding anniversary. That's right, we made it another year. High five, honey.

Speaker 1:

Oh, go like this. No, go like this.

Speaker 2:

Oh, come on, Did you see that, did you? Get that, yeah, okay, just been waiting to try that on somebody.

Speaker 1:

Of course I had to be the Okay.

Speaker 2:

Lovely.

Speaker 1:

Are we good? We're good. I don't know what we're doing here. We got that. I don't know what we're doing here. We got that. Oh yeah, we're doing a media presentation. That's what we're doing.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we are, so let's set that up first. You're the best at that, so put the camera on you please.

Speaker 1:

Well, a lot of people. Oh, it's on me there, you go Just in time.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what that Um anyway. Uh, a lot of times people say why Scientology is doing things that are obviously illegal, Like you're not supposed to do these things, Yep, but somehow they get away with it. Tony Ortega had a story this week on um Underground Bunker about there's a church in Tampa that got lit up for doing all the same stuff Scientology does, Like dude. The guy's name is David and his wife's name is Michelle. That runs the joint. Come on, Is this what we live in? The matrix?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Like the matching characteristics are uncanny, they're asking for money from people.

Speaker 1:

They're calling people up asking them for money.

Speaker 2:

He's living a lavish lifestyle. They had forced labor.

Speaker 1:

Forced labor, personal servants day and night. If you read it and you just took off the name of the church that got, they were raided by the FBI. That's what actually happened in the report that Tony wrote. These guys had been raided by the FBI. If you took out the name of whatever that church was and put Scientology in there, there's not one thing in there that would be inaccurate. But these guys and these guys have only been around for like seven or eight years or something like that.

Speaker 2:

So anyway, they haven't hired on the multimillion dollar law firms yet to protect their illegal behavior and that's kind of where this thing is going.

Speaker 1:

Yep, scientology. I mean. They were raided by the FBI in the 1970s due to them being the perpetrators of the largest infiltration into the United Government in its history.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

And the Scientology guys threw one of their organizations called the Guardian's Office. Albright and Hubbard was the Guardian and this was his office, the Guardian's Office and all they were supposed to do is make sure that he didn't get in trouble. That was like their main objective, and they were infiltrating government agencies, stealing the files on Scientology or stealing the contents of their files that were bad about them and replacing it with false stories of good stuff, and they were doing this all over the world, not only in the United States government. They had infiltrated many, many other governments.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there was a raid in Canada as well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there you go. They got raided in Canada. They got in big trouble down in Canada. They got in big trouble down in Australia. They got in big trouble in UK. That's actually kind of the history of the sea organization is Hubbard was like I got to get somewhere where they can't get me international waters. So he's been gaming the legal systems of multiple countries, and Scientology has been doing this for decades and decades, and one thing they've gotten very good at is doing that. And so what they do is they basically they figure out the bounds of the law and then they push that to its utter limits and if they get in trouble, they figure out a way legally how they're not in trouble, Right, and then and then they constantly change their contracts and documents to reinforce their adjusted and evolved strategies to further protect themselves.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they basically tweak their documents to match the current laws. To match the current laws. So if there was something that was illegal in a prior document, they'll take that out, reword it in the way that it will protect them legally and then get everybody to re-sign it. I mean at the end base. At the end base every few years we'd have to sign all new documents. We'd have to sign all new contracts, all new employment forms, all new actors, because a lot of us were in films that Scientology used for training. We'd have to sign a new whatever it's called artist agreement or whatever that they'll allow us. They can use any likeness of us in any way, in perpetuity, for the rest of time, and none of our family or anybody can say nothing about it.

Speaker 2:

And we constantly had to sign non-disclosure agreements too, saying that for every breach. If we ever considered saying anything, it was going to be, like I don't know, $25,000 or $50,000 per incident.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, per breach, per breach of convention.

Speaker 2:

So you know, let's just pause for a moment and imagine if you'd been being paid 46 a week for 14 years on a good week, if you were lucky, you got paid and then now you're signing a contract that says if you were to breach that you would be paying 25 to 50 000. I mean, it's just ridiculous, it was. It was like signing fiction, frankly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was also like who cares? And also-.

Speaker 2:

Like how am I going to say anything? I'm in lockup at Supermax at the end base.

Speaker 1:

What am I going to say? I think I'm going to escape and tell all your secrets. That'll never happen.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

And yet here we are.

Speaker 1:

So, that being said, one of the ways they do that is by these high power attorneys, and Claire and I did launch a lawsuit against Scientology in 2009. Correct, and it was ultimately dismissed. And in the decision in the appellate court's decision it said if we had used other causes of action, we might have fared very differently, such as false imprisonment, assault and battery and a couple of others that I can't remember at the moment. At the time, scientology was really involved in a widespread human trafficking People living and working and not being allowed to leave and all these sort of things and so the lawyers thought that that would be the best course of action. The FBI was also investigating Scientology for human trafficking, so unfortunately, that didn't win out. But one thing that we noticed is almost I would say almost right after our case was done and over with, there was a lawyer who worked for RTC.

Speaker 2:

Yep Religious Technology Center.

Speaker 1:

And that's the organization that Dave is the head of, and this gentleman's name was Mark Marmoreau, and we both met him in depositions where they were taking statements from us about what had happened in the church. Mark Marmoreau didn't know how to pronounce any of the Scientology terms. He pronounced David Miscavige's name wrong.

Speaker 2:

He pronounced Thetan wrong he said operating Thetan. Yeah, but also during the course of the deposition there were a few times when Mark would come, like we were taking a break and he would come in and he would make comments that were definitely clear that he had no idea what he was talking about and that, like at one point he even said I'm not sure, I don't know who to believe anymore.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, but the thing that it showed is that he was this is a guy who a law firm I can't remember. Was it Proskauer Rose? Yes, yeah, so there was a law firm called Proskauer Rose. It's probably changed names these law firms change into. Their names change all the time based on partners changing and all that good stuff but, regardless, at the time it was called Proskauer Rose and they were representing, like Walmart and you know, multi-billion dollar corporations and Scientology and what they were.

Speaker 1:

What they were really amazing at was figuring out how the companies are doing, what's legal and whoever's getting screwed is the one that's, you know, in the wrong. They're the ones that did something they shouldn't have done and that's why they're getting screwed over by this big company. Right, that's what I noticed, the similarities, this big company, right, that's that's what I noticed, the similarities and the and the, and they were also very proficient in labor laws, employment contracts, um, you know, corporate structures, these types of things, and so, essentially, what Scientology does is they use these high-power law firms to get out of trouble, and also, when they do that, it sets sort of a precedent that, okay, you can't do this anymore, because we've proved that we're on the right side of this. So we can do that from now on and there's nothing we can get in trouble for Right. So that kind of sets us up on and there's nothing we can get in trouble for Right. So that kind of sets us up for today. So here we go.

Speaker 1:

Law and Scientology Current issues Can you read these? Because I mean, I've got.

Speaker 2:

We will analyze the recent appointment of William Hobbs Foreman and discuss his involvement in cases as mentioned by Leah Remini. Gus's involvement in cases as mentioned by Leah Remini. We will add the link to Leah's Substack post that she did this past week in the description for this video so you can take a look at that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and basically what the what the thing says? The gist of it is that there is a new lawyer that's being appointed as a Supreme Court judge in California and he just happens to be one of these multi-million dollar attorney firm. Worked at one of these multi-million dollar attorney firms that was working for Scientology, Right, and now he is going to be the judge on whether or not these things are legal and when there's cases that are going to come up, he's going to say whether Scientology is in the right or Scientology is in the wrong. And when you hear what these guys have been doing for Scientology for all these years, this thing even I knew about the Mark Marmoreau guy being appointed, but I didn't have any idea that this guy was being appointed until I saw this thing from Leah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, have any idea that this guy was being appointed until I saw this thing from leah. Yeah, and I think technically he he would ethically recuse himself from judging on any scientology matter. But, that being said, we both felt that it was worthwhile talking about because there is a pattern yeah that is irrefutable, and you know what the outcome is is when you see yeah, we'll just present you, go through it just present the facts here, guys there you go not taking any sides.

Speaker 1:

Also, this is not where we are going to talk about um different, um political figures in different places. This is not a political thing. They just happen to be a mayor or just happen to be a governor and they're connected with this stuff. How connected they are, we don't know that, but we know that they're doing this, so take it with what you will.

Speaker 2:

It's significant enough that it's absolutely worth talking about Case similarities. We'll compare William Hobbs, foreman, and Mark Marmoreau, the attorney representing Religious Technology Center and Church of Scientology International. During our 2009 cases Taking action. We will discuss attending the next California bar meeting and review where to send complaints, etc.

Speaker 1:

Because the whole point is to raise awareness on what you can do about it for anyone who has any involvement and direct knowledge of suspicious activities right yeah Well, basically, we can talk shit about these guys all we want, okay, and we can tell you they did this, or here's a picture of them at the Winter Wonderland, at Scientology, or they got up on stage. These are facts of what they did, correct. This is what. These are facts of what they did, correct. And then if you don't agree with those things being done, then there's a way that you can do something, because a lot of people say why don't they do this, or why doesn't the FBI do this, or why doesn't the police do this? Because no one's telling on these guys. We're the only ones telling on them.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

And we done already reported to all those people. So we did it. Reported to all those people, so we did it. So, if we want something to happen, more people got to do something, and so that's why we want to tell you these are the facts, these are the events as they occurred, and if you don't like it, here's some people you can call or email or send a letter to, or whatever it is that we think is possible that it will make some sort of change.

Speaker 2:

Yep, and I feel it's worth mentioning too that Leah's article references the 5,000 documents. Um, that came to light. Uh, you know all the OSA files.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And those were given to the Attorney General Office in 2010. Yeah, but the problem is that the language is so involved and complicated that, deciphering what those documents even mean, you have to know the lingo which we know it's like trying to try a case that's written in, you know, Egyptian hieroglyphics. You got to bring in Markabian.

Speaker 1:

Markabian.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's not even a. There's not a translation key, for it's not a planet Earth language. So anyway, all right. So here we go. William Hobbs, foreman case involvement Number one Haney sued Scientology for kidnapping, abuse, stalking and libel. Foreman defended forced religious arbitration case delayed indefinitely. Number two Bixler sued Scientology for oh sorry, oops, I messed up there. Give me a second here. Sued Scientology for harassment. Foreman fought for religious arbitration. Delayed the. I got this covered up here. Anyway, he delayed the lawsuit. Number three Baxter et al. This is the case with Gwaine and Baxter and Laura Baxter and Valeska Paris Sued Scientology for human trafficking. Foreman argued children signed religious obedience contracts. Delayed claims Remedy. Number four sued for harassment and defamation. Foreman filed anti-slap motion. Delayed process while Scientology continued to harass her. So again, we're just providing.

Speaker 1:

These are all the things that William Hobbs Foreman, his firm or he directly was involved with in those four Scientology cases.

Speaker 2:

Yes, okay, exactly.

Speaker 1:

There you go, scientology cases.

Speaker 2:

Yes, okay, exactly, there you go. Okay, now, this is Mark Marmer, the one and only who did all of my days of deposition and he did some of yours, I think too, or maybe not.

Speaker 1:

I think he was there, but he had very, very dark or gray, almost white hair when I saw him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, oh, there you go. They used a good picture.

Speaker 1:

So he previously worked for Jeper.

Speaker 2:

Mangels, Butler and Marmoro. Yes, Marmoro was the attorney for Religious Technology Center and Church of Scientology International until 2010, working for Scientology during our cases in 2009. So, yes, it was 2009 is when I met with this person.

Speaker 1:

Warren, we lost those cameras. Look at that. Oh, we did. Yeah, sorry, you keep reading. Okay, I'm going to fix that.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so Mark Marmoreau was the person that took my deposition and let's just talk about that for a minute. That was 10 people in the room, including Warren McShane, several OSA staff, a person really live streaming to David Miscavige, who was providing direction to Mark Marmoreau during the deposition, to Mark Marlboro during the deposition, and it was being filmed, and we've told this story before, but it's always a fun fact to me that one of the people filming our deposition then became a member of Anonymous and turned down doing any further depositions for Scientology. We were riding down in the elevator with them, with the filming crew, after a day of deposition and they were just literally floored Like. They were like I don't even know what to say, this is insanity. And we're like, yeah, that was just, you know, 2% of what we have to talk about Anyhow. So, mark Marmoreau, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

You've got to tell us in the comments if we're live, because on our screen it says we're frozen.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's fun.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is fun. It's a fancy graphics man I'm telling you yeah well. Try to do something, Claire are we good?

Speaker 2:

Nope, she says, we're not good.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well no, she says we're not good. Okay, well, there you go. Oh boy, I think what we're gonna do is I'm gonna, I'm gonna, un-add us and then I'm gonna add us back. Okay, sounds good let's see what happens.

Speaker 2:

This could be, this could be great scientology does not want us talking about this. You are frozen. Okay, there you go. Screen is.

Speaker 1:

But they can hear us.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's fun.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think, when we did something.

Speaker 2:

Xenu stopped in to mess with our stream.

Speaker 1:

We haven't had any problems in so long and now hold on, they can hear us.

Speaker 2:

We jinxed it by talking about it last night saying how the internet had been great.

Speaker 1:

Oh, somebody says, you're not frozen.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, interesting.

Speaker 1:

Hmm. Well, I guess we're just going to have to leave and come back in I already did that.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I didn't.

Speaker 1:

Um, yeah, it says it's good now, but then I knew I couldn't have changed anything.

Speaker 2:

Oh boy.

Speaker 1:

Oh boy, Somebody keeps saying all good now, but we don't see it.

Speaker 2:

No, sound is okay, Video is frozen All right. Well, I can just keep talking. Well, I know.

Speaker 1:

But they don't have. The is the Claire? I'd say the slide is still up. It's just our camera is not up.

Speaker 2:

Yep, that's it Okay, those darn space co camera is not up.

Speaker 1:

Yep, that's it Okay.

Speaker 2:

Well, those darn space cooties.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay Well, let me just see if I can do something.

Speaker 2:

Evidently somebody doesn't want us talking about this Anybody.

Speaker 1:

Right, I know we had a, I'm going to switch the camera hey there guys, they can hear me now.

Speaker 2:

Okay, switch the camera. Hey there, guys, they can hear me now.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and then I'm going to switch back. Let's see if I switch back.

Speaker 2:

Are you sure you don't want me to leave the studio and come back in? No it's the black magic. It's not working, but they can hear us Look at that. Oh, that camera works. There we go. All right, dodged one there. That was exciting.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Fun, fun, fun.

Speaker 1:

Okay, this always happens when we go real hardcore it really does. It is a weird thing.

Speaker 2:

Seriously. I mean, you know I'm not one to be paranoid.

Speaker 1:

I've you know we've learned to live with it. Keep going.

Speaker 2:

Okay, hold on, I have to be able to.

Speaker 1:

Okay, we fast forward so similarities.

Speaker 2:

Working with Scientology, both Foreman and Marlboro represented Scientology in various cases Foreman in Haney's, bixler's, baxter's and Remini's cases, and Marlboro in our cases. Judge appointment Mar-a-Roe was appointed to the Supreme Court of California County of Los Angeles on June 30th 2010, by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Speaker 1:

Foreman was appointed to the same court on June 18th 2025, by Governor Gavin Newsom. Yeah, so again. That's why I want to stress, as much as you may not dislike one or other of these governors for whatever reasons, this isn't about that. Even this is about. Scientology has people in enough places that have enough money that they can influence certain things to happen, and they have people like and it's kind of ironic because the person one of Scientology's biggest donors is a woman by the name of Trish Duggan.

Speaker 1:

Now, scientology is severely anti-psychiatric, anti-psychology, anti-pharmaceutical companies companies, and this woman was married to a guy who made a Bob yeah, bob Duggan who had a pharmaceutical company and he ended up selling it to another pharmaceutical company. He made millions and millions and billions of dollars and then they got divorced and now she is one of the people that are donating millions and millions of dollars to Scientology for just about anything and everything they want, and she is in a lot of these circles, these political circles, and so it's not unreal or unlikely that they have other people in other places that could do a similar thing in their local politics.

Speaker 2:

Right. And also I think it's important to talk about like okay, so if an attorney becomes a judge and they worked on Scientology cases, technically they should recuse themselves from making any rulings about Scientology right. Technically, however, they're now connected to all these other judges and Scientology doesn't do things by the playbook and they don't do things above board.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and also yeah, they should recuse themselves.

Speaker 2:

But is anyone looking to see if they actually do or don't?

Speaker 1:

want to be made out like some conspiracy theorist or anything, but it's not unlikely that, as somebody in that position, they can influence other people. And other things that are happening Putting somebody who is a very, very Scientology are putting these guys' kids through college. They're the ones that are making it, so they're going on vacations to Maui, among other companies, but Scientology is doing a huge part of that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean we just showed four Scientology cases, current Scientology cases that this William character is involved was involved with, and sure he's now taken himself off those cases, but he did all that work.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and he's arguing for Scientology in in in all of these cases, they're coming up with creative ways to make it, so Scientology can continue to victimize and abuse people.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Okay, next slide.

Speaker 2:

Yes, okay, let me get back here to be able to read this Hold on Okay Ties. Yes, okay, let me get back here to be able to read this Hold on Okay ties. We found a document from the Haney case that links Scientology to Marlboro's old firm now named Jeffer, mangels, butler and Mitchell, as recently as 2021. William Hobbs Foreman and Marlboro's former firm are both listed on this document and we have that there. You can see that in the attorney list. It lists William Hobbs Foreman.

Speaker 1:

And Marlboro. Yeah, yep, that's kind of wild.

Speaker 2:

It is.

Speaker 1:

That they both worked on cases and now they're both superior court judges.

Speaker 2:

Right, that's wild. Yes, it is wild. Yes, it is Taking action. So what can we do about all of this? One attorney misconduct file attorney misconduct complaints with the state bar where that lawyer is licensed. Two judicial complaints file judicial complaints in the state or federal circuit where abuse occurred the state or federal circuit where abuse occurred. Three use your voice. Expose misconduct publicly to ensure patterns of abuse are visible.

Speaker 1:

Exactly why we're talking about this today, right, yeah, another reason I originally wanted to start this channel and I think the channel I want to say in 2008 or 2009 is when I started the Blown for Good YouTube channel and I was just putting up things that I didn't have any place to put. But then I realized we should start just a documented record of all the things that have happened and get people on to talk about this is what happened. Just so it's out there. Yes, so it doesn't just get erased by Scientology's rewriting of history full time.

Speaker 2:

Completely and also that was the best advice we were ever given by an attorney. Is anything, anytime something happens, document it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And like just list it out.

Speaker 1:

So we have an exact timeline. Send an email of what happened to somebody. Do this, record a little video.

Speaker 2:

They attack mode systems on this date with these emails and whatever, like any time they've done anything, which has been happening way more frequently in the last two years than it had for a while, right.

Speaker 1:

I like this one AGTMOM In their defense. Maui is nice.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for bringing humor to this dark topic. We appreciate you.

Speaker 1:

They sent us on vacations, but they were amazing vacations.

Speaker 2:

We've never actually visited Maui. One of these years we'll make it there.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and then I think you got to do the last one.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay yeah. Okay, for bar meetings, you can review the calendar for attend and make public comment at state bar meetings. Yes, and in fact, um yeah, so you can literally join the zoom call. I did that for the last bar meeting. I didn't say anything, but bar.

Speaker 2:

FM sent me the link and I was like, oh, I was driving, so I was like, and I it was like the an hour before, so I was. I was like well, I want to prepare my comments before I say anything. But both laura fm and audit la made comments about kendrick moxon yeah yep okay methods okay and also this is california as an example.

Speaker 1:

It might be it might be different in the country or the state. That could be another project that somebody could do, somebody could try to. I don't even know that there is such a thing Like. If you have a problem in this place, here's who you can write to or you could contact or that might be a worthwhile project to go like just from any place in the world.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

How can you file a complaint or lodge a complaint against Scientology or something that's going on in that place?

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

There might be a good way to kind of gather that up and then just send people to one place.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're working on FAQs for the Aftermath Foundation.

Speaker 2:

Yeah for the Aftermath Foundation, so we can add that there too, like all the different places, you can report things like getting fraudulent mail and all those kinds of things. All right, so attend a meeting, review agenda for upcoming meetings and submit a form to make public comment. And there's a link there for California, like you say, but if another state is involved, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to track that down, file a complaint, submit a form online via PDF or by printing and sending it into the state bar, and again there's the link Talk to your rep, contact Gavin Newsom to express your thoughts or concerns regarding the foreman appointment, and there's the link to do that too.

Speaker 1:

Cool, and here is a listing of all of the. This is a big complaint because people say I don't even know how to file a bar complaint. And then, when they do figure out how to file a bar complaint, there's no way to know what their number is Guess what guys.

Speaker 2:

We got you covered.

Speaker 1:

This is Clara's great work.

Speaker 2:

Amazing work.

Speaker 1:

Clara went and tracked down, or maybe this is in the Leah thing. I don't know, because I didn't read the entire Leah thing. It's very long.

Speaker 2:

It is. And we will put a link.

Speaker 1:

Clara put a link in the comments. We'll put a link in the description, but these are all the bar numbers. So this is like their attorney driver's ID, this is like their lawyer card number and so you can put their and look at it. It's Kendrick Moxon's on there. We got Mark Marmoreau and we got all these other cats that like to play with Scientology.

Speaker 2:

Gary Scott Soder.

Speaker 1:

Yes, Soder, he is the one that worked for Proskauer Rose. Mark Marlmore worked for Jeff, for Mangels and Butler whatever Bangles and Butler and then Soder was, I think, the one that worked for Proskauer Rose.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Wasn't there another guy that worked for-.

Speaker 2:

Mangels. No, Mangels is part of Mangles and Butler and Banger, of course, yeah, those cats. Anyway, those are the bar numbers.

Speaker 1:

There was somebody else that had a If you want to do this and this would be a good experiment. We can see like if we hear back from one of these places that we've written a report to and they go, yeah, we got three other reports, then we know like, okay, three people did it. But if we get a thing back saying we got 3000 reports, then it's like okay, now we're doing something.

Speaker 2:

Feel free to send us a copy and maybe we'll talk about this some more For all the people that are out there complaining that Scientology is up to no sense.

Speaker 1:

Somebody else has to do something besides the people saying they're up to no good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like we just said, use your voice. We can all make a difference, any difference Anyone can make by doing something. Oh, here we go, we shut down again.

Speaker 1:

No, we didn't, because I left it on the camera. That works.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay. See Brains oh yeah, Claire is giving us a thumbs up. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

Somehow you know what it is is those 3D printers? These kids of ours? They got 3D printers and I bet you that those, the circuit for those two cameras, is the same as that 3D printer that he's got.

Speaker 2:

We're maxing out.

Speaker 1:

It's my fault because they're actually printing stuff.

Speaker 2:

It is your fault because you're, we're, we're training our boys into being young entrepreneurs very successfully, I might add. Yeah, training our boys into being young entrepreneurs very successfully, I might add.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm going to share a video on my personal channel of these guys making. They basically make custom handles for my Milwaukee Packout toolkits.

Speaker 2:

They're very sexy if you're into tools, it definitely satisfies Mark's OCD strain.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, that's what they're printing and that's why these cameras are dead. So I figured it out. Though it's good I figured these cameras are dead, so I figured it out, though it's good, I figured it out.

Speaker 2:

It is good you figured it out.

Speaker 1:

Cause those went, those got installed and then we never did a live since then, because I've been gone.

Speaker 2:

He did a full investigation.

Speaker 1:

Folks and we have all been playing it, playing back.

Speaker 2:

We were. We were blaming Xenu inaccurately, Our bad that are bad.

Speaker 1:

That's true. Yeah, okay, I call. Why did we see news? He knows a good guy. Well, okay, we get that mixed up all the time too.

Speaker 2:

I'm telling you some of these scientists. It's baked in. He is a good guy why? Because he did uh depopulated planets and put shut people into he was running a shuttle service.

Speaker 1:

He was just the guy that took him from there to here A guy who freezes people into hydrogen cubes.

Speaker 2:

I don't call that a good guy. It was a logistics nightmare and we got to figure out how to move these guys to get fussy when they're hot. Guys, we'll have a backstage conversation and we'll get back to you on this.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, I don't even remember what we were doing. Oh, we were showing the bar numbers. You got to light them up, guys. Somebody's got to help us do this, and this is a way to do it, and there could be other ways. I think this is something that could make something even bigger. So you just go to the website, you just type in where you're from and it says these are the things you can do, because these people are doing Scientology's dirty work in the legal arena, but everywhere In the UK.

Speaker 1:

this is how we're going to get them in the UK. I'm telling you this right now this is the best way. In the UK is the Privacy Act because Scientology, it's their policy written by L Ron Hubbard that they got to keep all your info for the rest of the time and they can never destroy a file and they can never delete your information. But now there's new laws that say, hey, if I called on you or knocked on your shingle in two years, you got to get rid of my stuff, or whatever it is. I don't know what it is. It's different everywhere. Anyway, that's how we're going to do it in the UK. But I think if we had a system where you could say, hey, I want my stuff deleted, and then you go and say, hey, they're not deleting my stuff because their policy says they can't delete my stuff, and somebody could say, hey, you got to delete all this stuff and then, once you make them change one thing, then you can make them change everything.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

Okay, enough of that. What's the next?

Speaker 2:

And, by the way, of all these people.

Speaker 1:

So thank you, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2:

Of all those people, Monique Yingling deserves special mention.

Speaker 1:

Well, she's Dave's personal attorney.

Speaker 2:

And.

Speaker 1:

I think she's the only attorney that has gone on national television in Scientology's defense, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, well, specifically for Dave Correct To make like hey, Mr Miscavige is a very busy man, he's very busy evading authorities anyway. Yes, the matt denny says oh sorry, oh no, back to uk. Uh, matt. Denny says yes on our gdpr law yep so I don't know what gdpr means, but I think it has something to do with public records yes I'm gonna say.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna say p and the r are public and records yeah, yeah, there you go. And the other one who knows? Yep, goddamn public records. Okay, what are we doing here? We want to do a giveaway and then we'll do some comments.

Speaker 2:

Yes, let's do that. I'm a little flustered because of the whole camera debacle. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I knew it was going to catch me sooner or later. I was flying too close to the sun, okay. Now this is going to be tricky, because that screen is off and that is where the draw button is Actually. Maybe if I go to another window here, Okay, hang in there with us folks.

Speaker 2:

Get your comments in if you would like to be included in the giveaway. Any comment gets entered automatically, so we'll give you a few minutes to here we go. Join here.

Speaker 1:

Ready.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I'm ready.

Speaker 1:

Okay, we have to look at this other screen.

Speaker 2:

Okey dokey.

Speaker 1:

Hopefully it's playing on the other screen.

Speaker 2:

Can you see it, clara?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I can't see preview, but it's going to say that is amazing. See that's what happens. I commented once. I said two-minute warning.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we'll do another one.

Speaker 1:

You think we should do another one?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we should do another one.

Speaker 1:

Come on now. Hold on, I'll be right back.

Speaker 2:

Why are you going to be right back? Okay, well, fair enough. Oh, here we go. All right, I see what he's doing here. Hang, all right, I see what he's doing here. Hang in there, folks. We're good. Congratulations. Never a dull moment.

Speaker 1:

Congratulations Blown for good here. Let me put you back on this. Look at this. All right, this is the Xenu and the Body Thing concert. Tee, this is a big fat, big big one, but it's got the tour dates on the back. See that Clearwater.

Speaker 2:

March back. See that. Clear water, march 13th. Clear water, florida, may 9th. That's dianetics day. Los angeles, california, june 6 aruba aruba, southern caribbean october.

Speaker 1:

East grinstead, england, also here. Look at me, I have october 11th on there. What's the over under that? The? That the event in uk happens on october 11th oh yeah, that would special. It won't be now, because then they would get picked Anyway, you can win one of these, and you can also go get these in the Blown For Good merch store.

Speaker 2:

There we go. Alright with that. We're going to do another one. Wouldn't that be ironic if I won the second one.

Speaker 1:

If you win the second one, then they're rigged for sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, then it's rigged. Then we will no longer use this.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. Oh, look at the screen, turn back on.

Speaker 2:

Oh nice, Look at that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, draw again. Okay, cameras turn back on too. Wow, there's something happening that now it's not that. No, okay, there you go, all right, I don't know how to say that name matika. Congratulations to ya to ya to ya, matika I don't know, but congratulations.

Speaker 2:

However, you say your name yes, send me an email, claire, at balloonforgoodcom with a link to what would you, what you would like from either the balloon for good merch store or the sp shopcom, and uh, we'll get that taken care of. Yes, thanks to everybody tuning in here.

Speaker 1:

Yes, thank you. We are going to do some comments. I don't. Normally I would not. I would not let pecker decker, let's go Um. Normally I would not entertain such comments, but I did think this was funny. Gilles jocks says is it true that fake Navy Davey has a Tom Cruise love doll?

Speaker 2:

Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1:

I will say that I cannot deny that that's a fact, because I don't know whether or not it is, but I can't deny it. Okay, I can't say it's not true.

Speaker 2:

So you're not affirming or denying. That's right.

Speaker 1:

I'm not affirming confirming nor denying Apparently we've been talking too much about attorneys today. Tom Cruise, that's right. Let it stand for the record that I did not endorse nor condone in any such way Nor condemn.

Speaker 1:

Nor condemn or deny. I didn't do anything. I'm neutral. I'm like Switzerland. You know it's funny. A lot of people think Switzerland didn't do anything. When all these wars are going on, Switzerland was getting busy making stuff and building bunkers and stuff into the mountains and stuff. And if they came up the valley they were ready to get to doing something, they played it cool. But if things would have came up the valley, they were ready to get to doing something. They played it on, played it cool. But if, if things would have gone bad their way, they were ready to get in there and mix it up. Okay, Do we have any good questions? Let's see. Besides the, the Davy doll.

Speaker 2:

Yep. So while you look that up, just a reminder we will add the link tracy cheats telling you, tracy.

Speaker 1:

I think we won once before that also tracy's won before I'm not sure about that tracy, tell us if you won before.

Speaker 2:

But I respect that opinion. But I will say I watched mark push the button, so if it was cheating then the onus of that cheating is on stream yards not on us. Congratulations, becky big brother fan. Yeah, oh my goodness, oh my goodness I'm pretty sure I've won before um, I've won before.

Speaker 2:

Remember there was a time that I was traveling and I joined the live while you were doing it by yourself. I won that time and I was like wait, no, it's not supposed to be me. Oh my gosh, dr X in the house. Dr X, we gave a shout out to you and Dr Paul earlier. We received amazing packages yesterday. My goodness, you both are so incredibly generous. But let's see here. Happy 33rd wedding anniversary, guys. Never a dull moment on the BFG channel. We hope that all lawsuits goes all the way through the court system and everyone gets justice for the abuses Scientology has caused in this world. Yes, 100%.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it is no minor matter to be, involved in a lawsuit with Scientology. Our experiences there was four years of hell.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. The other thing I do want to say, though, and there's a reason why they have to get all these fancy lawyers because Scientology has never won a jury trial. They no jury, they don't win. If there's a jury, they lose them. So they either fight, fight, fight, fight, fight and just wear you down to settle, or to drop it, or to get bamboozled in the courts, or they write you a check. Right, and isn't it?

Speaker 2:

true that the last time Scientology sued someone was Debbie Cook, that's right In like 2014?.

Speaker 1:

That was the very last time that they initiated a legal action. Yes, against an ex-Scientologist, correct. For breach of contract and they wrote a check.

Speaker 2:

They did.

Speaker 1:

They wrote a check.

Speaker 2:

Yep yeah, debbie had one day of testimony in court which was definitely very explosive.

Speaker 1:

That's another thing that some people are pissed. They say, hey, she settled, though she settled. No, she didn't. She said everything she had to say Correct could have said that would have been more destructive than the things she said, and that was it. She did it and and they still wrote a check because they didn't know if she maybe could say something else she could have said a lot more.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Well, maybe but I don't think it was anything more. It was going to be any more crazy than the things that she did say. Anyway, you can look it up. Just I think, just google it's on youtube testimony.

Speaker 1:

It was videoed right. It's not like it can go. They can make it go away. No, and it's amazing anyway, and it's also in the court record and everything else. But they said that was the last time. As soon as she was got in front in front of the court and got to tell her story, they were like shut it down yep, exactly okay, scientology nuked its own lawsuit.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that's exactly what happened yes um, it was in 2012, if you want to google it. I mean, that's what he's saying yeah, probably so ish yeah just say debbie cook scientology testimony, you'll find it and there's. There's a lot that's been written about it. But I'm just saying that's why they have to do a lot of this stuff, because they know that if they get in front of a jury, no matter what they've cooked, if they get in front of a jury, they're toast. Oh, and I'm back on the right camera again. See, it's turning on and off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we definitely have something strange going on here, folks, but it's all good.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we will's all good, okay, we will power through here A bit late. We'll have to watch the beginning later.

Speaker 1:

Okay, take it easy.

Speaker 2:

Don't bite my head off. It's all good. Thanks for being here, we're good. Don't listen to him. He gets worked up sometimes.

Speaker 1:

Trevon on a treasure trove of Scientology History and Protest Info. Oh yeah, Sure, I don't know if he's talking about something else, I think he's talking about the big list of people who have spoken out.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay. I think Buck Buddy, little Davey, has a clown car positioned in Switzerland for a quick escape there, you go Probably.

Speaker 1:

Okay, now here we go. I'm just putting up Caitlin good afternoon everyone yes. Good afternoon, Caitlin.

Speaker 2:

Clara says uh-oh, here comes Spicy Mark.

Speaker 1:

No, no, we're good Everything, I'm just putting comments.

Speaker 2:

I'll say, Alex, it really grinds my gears that law enforcement in the US continue to turn a blind eye. Oopsies.

Speaker 1:

That was not me.

Speaker 2:

Oh, Clara, it's all good. We're good to turn a blind eye to Scientology's abuses and yet are happy to raid these smaller culty groups. I know it's incredibly frustrating, but yeah. Yep, we'll get there eventually, betsy Sue, but I thought they weren't allowed to change Scientology documents.

Speaker 1:

Contracts are not written by L Ron Hubbard, that's right.

Speaker 2:

So they can do whatever they want. They follow the many, many policies of fair game and use the system and protect themselves and they change their contracts which is different than policy to protect themselves. That's the difference Question Can you create a blown for good personality test Like do you like barbecue or chicken soup?

Speaker 1:

That would be such a funny one, yeah do you read remember? Oh my gosh, we should literally what's your stance on uh dash cam videos on youtube timetables on the yes that's a good one. Zina white, yeah, on the scientology personality test, it has these random questions. Do you like to sometimes browse train timetables? For no reasons like right. It's also very uh uh, it's very of the time of the 50s and the 60s, like, yes, trying a train timetable, like most people would be like. What are you talking about?

Speaker 2:

right like like who's who's read a printed train timetable in the last 15 years?

Speaker 1:

That's not even a thing anymore To just browse through them. Let us know in the comments if you're browsing through train timetables. Just on a whim.

Speaker 2:

It would be funny, though, sometimes to do a deep dive on the OCA personality test, on the traits and the questions and what it relates to, and and how it's all rigged, to basically tell you that, no matter who you are, even if you answer perfectly on their scoring system, they even have a label for that, which means that you're just not really confronting the problems of your life and they can help you with that. Um yeah, so there's no, there's no pass on that test. In other words, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, christina. Do you have contacts to Germany? Is Scientology still very active here? I just met someone who had contact with a company that works with Scientology.

Speaker 1:

She is still traumatized. She is still traumatized yeah we do actually have contacts in Germany, and Scientology is not thriving. Scientology is not really thriving anywhere. Nope, they're getting hit.

Speaker 2:

Except in their offshore bank accounts.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, the thing that they do very well with is their wealthy members Correct, and they do do well for their wealthy members to get in other wealthy members. They don't want poor people in Scientology, so that's not really a thing. Those don't really do anything for them. But if Grant Cardone can get in somebody who's making money or someone who's a hustler, a good salesperson or something like that, and then that person can get some more people in, and then those people can get some people in, they make some money and they get some more riches in at the same time. And I think that's where they like to do so in Germany.

Speaker 1:

I mean, the German government was very sort of we're keeping our eyes on you in terms of Scientology, and I don't know that that's as much as it used to be, but they're not getting up to a lot of nonsense over there without people complaining about it. So if people, if it doesn't really matter where you live if you, if you live in a country that there's politicians and politicians have to sort of pretend or go along with doing the will of the people and you complain that Scientology did something bad to you and you get a bunch of other people to do the same, then politicians are going to be like, hey, what's up with the Scientology problem? I got a lot of people writing to me saying Scientology are up to nonsense. Maybe they do something, but I mean there's not a lot of else things we have to do besides, you know, locking them up and getting them. You know not doing evil stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yep, all right, I got a teleportal now.

Speaker 1:

Oh, ok, well, I'm not. I can't cut away, so you're.

Speaker 2:

It's all good.

Speaker 1:

We get to see Claire.

Speaker 2:

Lee. Bye everybody. See you next week.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to keep reading some comments for at least another thing. Thank you for that, christina. Oh, we got another super chat too. Uva, esquire or I don't know what that means. Esq, scientology's tax exemption is the keystone that keeps the whole house of cards from crumbling. It's very frustrating that the IRS seems unwilling or unable to enforce its inerrant rules and revoke it, like back to the late 1950s. Yeah, I think you're exactly right about that. It may this, there may be some developments in this area too. We'll see how things are going. Thank you very much for the super chat. That's very generous.

Speaker 1:

Okay, people are texting me that I've got to end this so I can go to the other thing. Thanks for watching guys. Thanks for putting up with our camera silliness and until next time. Now I got to push this and then I got to push this. Stay tuned. The Aftermath Foundation. Thanks for watching. If you'd like to help support the channel, feel free to check out the merch store link in the description. We have Hail Xenu Xenu is my homeboy and BFG branded mouse pads, shirts, mugs, all sorts of other stuff in there. That helps us to bring you new content on a regular basis. You can also pick up a copy of my book Blown for Good Behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology in hardback, kindle and audible versions as well. There's also a link to our podcast and you can get that on Apple, spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. And if you'd like to watch another video, you can click on this link right here, or you can click on this one here, or you can click on the subscribe button right here. Thanks a lot, until next time.

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