The Homeschool How To

#99: A New Approach to Modern Education

Cheryl - Host Episode 99

This episode highlights the innovative approaches to homeschooling offered by Raya Bidshahari at the School of Humanity. Listeners will discover how alternative education focuses on emotional intelligence, real-world challenges, and the importance of individualized learning paths.

• The rise of alternative education due to frustrations with traditional methods
• Engaging with real-world topics through project-based and interdisciplinary learning
• Emphasis on emotional well-being and connection to nature
• Accreditation of School of Humanity and its significance
• Career readiness and various pathways after high school
• Flexibility of online programs and their benefits for family dynamics
• The supportive community around alternative education choices


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Speaker 1:

Welcome to this week's episode of the Homeschool How-To. I'm Cheryl and I invite you to join me on my quest to find out why are people homeschooling, how do you do it, how does it differ from region to region, and should I homeschool my kids? Stick with me as I interview homeschooling families across the country to unfold the answers to each of these questions week by week. Welcome, and with us today I have Raya Bidshahari. How are you, raya? Thank you for being here.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for having me. I'm looking forward to our conversation.

Speaker 1:

So when you had initially reached out about the podcast, you had discussed that you have an online platform for learning, and I really love this concept because it seems like it's becoming more and more popular to have alternative ways to educate our kids and it's just so cool to know that parents have options, and I love that the podcast is sort of a platform where parents can kind of find all the different ways. It doesn't have to be like, okay, I had to quit my job to spend all day long doing the schoolwork with the kids or taking them here and there, or joining a formal co-op or anything like that. This is now another alternative that parents have, so why don't you start by just kind of explaining what it is that you offer?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely so. School of Humanity is an award-winning online high school. We are an American online high school and we serve learners from 25 countries across five continents, and we are very much designed to create an alternative an accredited alternative for learners and parents who are frustrated with the traditional education system and are frustrated with the emphasizing on memorization. They're frustrated with the emphasisation on memorisation for tests and the kind of cookie cutter curriculum that many of us are frustrated with. So at our high school, we learn by doing and having a positive impact on the world.

Speaker 2:

The way that it works is that we have learners embark on interdisciplinary challenges. Examples of these challenges include things like designing space habitats, maintaining global peace, protecting our oceans, just to name a few, and over the course of every term, they collaborate in their sessions to engage, investigate and act on these challenges. In parallel, they also embark on skill units where they develop different skills, and they also embark on a flourishing journey where we develop our emotional intelligence and well-being in life. So it really is a reimagination of what we learn, how we learn and why we learn in order to better serve learners in today's world.

Speaker 1:

That's so awesome. Now if you could back up a little bit for me and just kind of explain how you got into this space and maybe what your background in your education was like to kind of lead you to this endeavor. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

I didn't grow up thinking I would go into education or become an educator. My journey into this very much happened out of my own frustration as a learner. Growing up, I was always someone who loved learning by doing and I also really enjoyed reading and watching documentaries and definitely, like many young minds, had that kind of curiosity to want to learn more, and I actually found that love of learning almost get like sucked out of me through the education system. So I prefer to learn on my own and following my curiosity than actually sit and memorize textbook after textbook and take tests and forget everything a semester later.

Speaker 2:

And when I was doing my undergraduate degree in neuroscience at Boston University, I continued to kind of see these issues with our education system. I on one hand, had a lot of passion for the field, but I again could see that even in higher education there's a lot of inefficiencies with the way that we're organizing things A lack of focus on well-being and purpose, as well as a lack of emphasis on practical skills that you actually need for the workforce. So ultimately I decided that when I was going to graduate I pivoted and decided to go into ed, tech and education and really try to do something about it. So my first attempt at solving the problem came from trying to tackle it at a supplementary education space, through the extracurricular side of things, and saw that that was really frustrating and that the real impact lied in creating alternatives for families that they could embark on in parallel or instead of the education system. And really those were some of the philosophies and thinking that led to founding School of Humanity.

Speaker 1:

And how long has School of Humanity been in existence?

Speaker 2:

We're about three and a half years old now. We started ideating in 2021. We launched our first full-time cohort in 2022.

Speaker 1:

What a fantastic time, too, because that's when parents were like, wait, we're seeing the online learning and this is what's going on in the classroom. What else can we do? And we can see our kids. You know they're doing the online learning. It's just wow, this isn't really what we thought they would be learning, or lack thereof. And so what a great time.

Speaker 1:

And I totally hear you with the like knowledge, the hunger for knowledge, just kind of being that I, you know, really wanted to be like if they were the smart ones or something. I want to, I want to be started, I want to know stuff, and and I'm like I don't even know where to begin. And it never occurred to me like in the classroom, because it was kind of like that's where you went to just waste time, you know, or like sit through the day kind of felt like somewhere to be babysat while your parents were at work it never. And the test taking oh my gosh, we can get into that in a moment. But, okay, so you said that School of Humanity is accredited. Could you kind of, because I know that's another thing parents worry about with the homeschool realm. Well, oh, how do I know that it'll be accepted if they want to go to university. So what is your accrediting? What does that look like? What makes you accredited versus something else?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so we're internationally accredited by the Western Association of Schools and Colleges. So, for anyone that's not aware, the way accreditation works in the United States is you have regional accrediting bodies like Western Association of Schools and Colleges, you have the Northeastern Association and so on, and these bodies are mandated by the Department of Education to be able to accredit schools, and the way that the process typically works is that it can take a school a few years it took us a few years to get fully accredited and involves essentially an analysis of your pedagogical practice, your leadership, your resource management, your safeguarding. So, contrary to a lot of popular opinion, accrediting bodies don't come in and tell you you have to do this or you have to do that, and they actually give you a lot of freedom to innovate, which is something that I think a lot of us in this space value. But what they're looking at is whether you have the right systems and structures in place that are robust and are aligned with best practice and education. So for us, being accredited is that stamped universities, that this is a school that has certain standards in place.

Speaker 2:

In addition to the accreditation, the thing to recognize for university admissions is different universities have different requirements, for many test optional universities, the accredited degree on its own and a portfolio of projects and that well-rounded application is enough. But some universities might still require the SATs, and so about 30 to 40% of our first graduating class are going to take the SATs. But we work with all of our learners from ninth grade onwards in workshops around career and university counseling as well as one-on-one sessions to figure out what their pathway post-graduation is and how we can best support them.

Speaker 1:

Oh, awesome and kind of, as you were talking on the last portion as well, it just got me thinking about, you know, you had mentioned like their emotional well-being and their purpose, and I think we're looking at like what we saw in 2020 and thereafter. You know, a lot of the schools are going forward with this and it's a whole funding source, the reason that they're doing it. But you know, pushing like different agendas and stuff, and so I think parents are very quick to be like, oh, emotional intelligence. You know we want to stay clear away from that because it's like leading to other things down the line in the curriculums at the schools, things like I won't even get into it, but um, but there is a difference in what you're talking about with your emotional wellbeing and how to regulate your feelings and why you're feeling that way, and your purpose in life with like how we connect to nature, the and the oceans. Like what is going on? Where does our garbage go? Well, if it's, you know it's. There's a lot of it going in the oceans. How is that affecting the life in the oceans? And you know so there's. There's a lot of back and forth between things that we hear as like buzzwords and people just like no, no, no, we don't want that for our kid. And like, no, there is a space for that without like other agendas.

Speaker 1:

And I think we just have to be so careful as parents to, you know, think like we do want our kids to connect with nature and we do want them to be emotionally evolved so that they can talk about their feelings and you know, and it doesn't mean their feelings have to be like, hey, today I'm a cat, like no, it's, you know, hey, if you're frustrated, tell me why, and that sort of thing.

Speaker 1:

So I just I want people like, as I'm realizing because my kids are young and we're getting into this, you know homeschooling now and I'm seeing stuff that goes on at the school down the road through, like just people I know that go there and I teach actually a Zumba class there.

Speaker 1:

So I see different things on the walls there and there there is a difference and you really want to think about what you want for your child. And and that's so important because now we're doing a nature study right now and really connecting with things like mushrooms outside and I'm like, wow, this is stuff I never learned in school and how I mean, our ancestors knew all of this stuff in like like our grandparents probably did, and so in like two generations, they've completely cut us off with busying us so much you know the long work days and the evening activities and the fast food so that we can, you know, just put something on the table or in our stomachs and really disconnecting from like what's out there, what does nature put out there for us to eat. So I really love that that your curriculum goes over that. Now, if you could talk to me a little bit about you said your students learn by doing. Since it's an online program, what does that look like for you guys?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so the curriculum is a combination of project-based and challenge-based learning, so challenge-based learning is a learning model where you learn through challenges, so it's a bit more broader than project-based learning, and so you know, I gave some examples of challenges earlier, but something like maintaining global peace is a really broad challenge. Underneath that, you can then choose what you focus on.

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Speaker 2:

So the way that structurally things work during a learning week is that about half of the learning is in online workshops and the other half is self-paced, and during the online workshops we do lots of games, activities, discussions, mind maps, so really interactive sessions, and over the course of the term we start off with the first half of the term being led by educators. So if you take something like maintaining global peace, we might look at it from a history perspective, looking at historical events and world wars. We might look at it from a psychology perspective, by understanding the psychology of conflict between people. We even look at it from a politics perspective, by understanding political systems and how they contribute to peace or violence and so on. And so for a few weeks, we do this kind of interdisciplinary analysis through projects, and then in the second half of the term, learners choose which sub challenges they'd like to focus on and develop their own solutions and act on it, and these solutions can be entrepreneurial, they can be artistic, they can be technological, really anything that learners are passionate about, and so that's the way the challenges are scaffolded to be applicable to the real world.

Speaker 2:

In parallel, learners also can choose different areas of the curriculum they want to go in depth into.

Speaker 2:

So we do these skill units on a range of different literacies and topics. For example, we have a skill unit on designing with nature, which is focused on biomimicry and what we can learn from the natural world and innovative solutions. We have, you know, lots of quantitative focus units on things like geometry and design or data for the sustainable development goals, where they get the opportunity to work on projects while developing their skills. And I think I want to take a step back and explain why it's really powerful to connect this learning to the real world, because it's not just about connecting it to problems in the world within agenda, but rather contextualizing what we're learning in the context of real world challenges just immediately makes it more relevant to learners. They can immediately see why they're learning what they're learning, they can see the application of it and for many learners that's significantly more engaging than just theoretical, abstract knowledge without that link to how this can help us either better ourselves as human beings or better the world at large.

Speaker 1:

That's so important. And I started seeing that, you know, last year as I was trying to go over kindergarten stuff with my son and it's like, okay, this is A. A says at. And I'm sitting there after a while thinking he's probably going, why do I need to know this? What is A says at? Why wouldn't A say anything at all, you know?

Speaker 1:

And it's like I had to take a step back and say, okay, well, this is the alphabet, and when we each, you know, letter has its own sound, and it's not that it says at, it's just when you see that the sound you would say is at, you know, and like really explaining the application of it. And then, once you learn those, we'll combine them together. And sometimes they still make that sound and sometimes they don't, but really, you know. Or even one plus one, ok, well, your kid can say, all right, one plus one is two, but why do you need to know that? Well, if you're baking and you have one apple and you have to go to the store because you need two, how many more do you have to buy? Or just simple things like that. Maybe my son, my son, I have to like relate it into like a car or a four wheeler or something like that, but it really it makes the world of difference to the child.

Speaker 1:

So I think like that is the most important thing about school and history, like you said, the psychology of the wars and the system set up, because in school we just learn OK, the War of 1812 was fought in 1812. And you know, as I'm a 40 year old, I have no idea why we fought in the war of 1812, who fought it or why. And it's like I think someone explained it to me on one of my podcast episodes that when he teaches it to his students, it's no, this was like the person you thought that was going to win. And then the underdog came in and it's like it was this huge thing because nobody saw it coming. And I'm like, well, that sounds way more interesting than what I learned about. So now I'm excited to go over that with my son.

Speaker 1:

But, right, like the story behind the why is so important and all right. So if I were to take you know, register with you guys be enrolled in School of Humanity, what would my day or my week look like? Is the everything laid out in a live class form? Are there recorded sessions that I would watch from you and homework. I'll let you take it from there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, so we are. We are a full time program and that learners typically need to commit at least 30 hours a week. As with any school week, we follow a four day week, in that we have sessions Monday through Thursday, and the Friday is really up to learners in terms of how they organize that time, whether it's for focus or flow, or whether it's extracurriculars or socialization or whatever they need. And in the days that we have sessions, we don't have any more than three hours of sessions that day, obviously broken down into smaller chunks, and then the rest of the time is in self-paced learning on our platform. The self-paced learning can be pre-session assignments, post-session projects, skill units I mentioned earlier, and so forth.

Speaker 2:

In terms of the workshops, we don't do pre-recorded sessions. They're always live. They're an incredible opportunity for our learners to get together and solve problems together, guided by the facilitator. We have these challenge workshops, where we do those interdisciplinary sessions that I explained earlier, but we also have sessions with different focus areas. So, for example, we do an hour a week of pathway advisory workshops. These are where we do sessions on career and university exploration and future skills.

Speaker 2:

We have an hour a week of human flourishing session. This is where we focus on soft skill development and emotional intelligence and purpose. We also have some time set aside for quantitative skills, for learners that need additional support on math, and so, to summarize, four days a week, a balance of synchronous and asynchronous. I will also add that we have currently two different cohorts in different time zones. We have an Americas cohort and then a cohort that's more Asia, and they do come together for two of the sessions every week where everyone is together. So part of the beauty is that you get to make friends from all around the world. We have students calling in from 25 countries across five continents and a range of socioeconomic backgrounds, so it makes it a really global experience for everyone.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's so cool, that's awesome. And now you talked a little bit about like counseling or like. Well, what I took from it was a guidance, counseling sort of thing, like what to do after, after high school. What do you have set up for kids to get them ready for the next step? You know, is college the next step, or is you know something else? What does that look like in a school of humanities?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so we don't assume that everyone has to go to college and everyone wants to go to college. I think you know for most learners that is an aspiration. But in today's world there are so many different pathways available post high school. You have nano degrees, associated degrees, apprenticeship programs, many kinds of roles where you can go direct to industry. Some learners want to take gap years, some even want to start their own ventures and entrepreneurial ventures.

Speaker 2:

So when we were developing our pathway advisory program, we kind of looked at all these different pathways and asked ourselves how we can best equip learners for all of them, because we do have, you know, a couple of learners who are interested in more non-traditional paths after they graduate from high school. So the program is usually structured into these weekly workshops where, you know, we look at all these different opportunities and we look at how to best prepare for all of them, so covering sessions that maybe are a bit more traditional, like navigating university requirements, interview skills, writing about your accomplishments, but also looking at topics like resume building, you know, jobs of the future, trends in the workforce, things like advanced interview skills, and so the idea is that learners can explore all these different pathways throughout their time at School of Humanity and when they graduate they understand what the requirements are for those different paths and they're well equipped for them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, jobs of the future, that is. That's a big undertaking and I think that's something that I mean. I haven't been in school in a long time, but with my sister's kids who all graduated in the last five years, I really can see a lack of like and I felt that way too. You know you graduate and it's like, well, I'm going to college just because that's what they say you should do if you want to be successful, and so you do that. And you should do if you want to be successful, and so you do that. And then it's like, well, now what? I don't know, I guess I just have to find a job.

Speaker 1:

And that ties into the purpose that you were talking about earlier. What is your purpose? Can you align your purpose with a way to bring in an income and thinking about the jobs of the future? Well, maybe you know, standing up as a teacher in a classroom, you know that, after taking your exam or whatever, and getting hired with the Board of Education, maybe that's not the future of teaching anymore. Maybe you can be innovative and create a school or online school, that sort of thing. So that is, I just think, so awesome and something our schools are just lacking so much right now. I know so many high schoolers and college graduates that just have no idea where to go. It's sad and, yeah, I think it just definitely ties into the purpose for sure.

Speaker 2:

Just to share something helpful for your listeners one of my favorite frameworks. Are you familiar with ikigai as a framework? So ikigai is a Japanese word for purpose, and it basically says that your purpose lies at the intersection of what you love, what the world needs, what you can be paid for and what you're good at. And so think of it as like a Venn diagram where, at this intersection of these four things, is your purpose. And so this is one of the kind of tools we use with our learners on a regular basis, because it takes a lot of reflection over time and you can have more than one purpose and it could change.

Speaker 1:

Hey everyone, this is Cheryl. I want to thank you so much for checking out the podcast. I'm going to keep this short and sweet because I know your time is valuable. I want to ask you a serious question Do your kids know what to do to actually save their life in an emergency? The most important thing we can talk to our kids about is knowing their first and last name, knowing mom and dad's first and last name, mom's phone number, dad's phone number, their address, what to do if they get lost, what to do if someone who's watching them has a heart attack, a stroke, an accident where they fall and your child needs to get help? We live in a world where there's no landline phones anymore.

Speaker 1:

Basically, and cell phones lock. Does your child know how to call 911 from a locked cell phone? It is absolutely possible, and my book demonstrates how to do that, whether it's an Android, whether it's an iPhone and, most importantly, it starts the conversation, because I was going through homeschooling curriculum with my kids, realizing that, gee, maybe they skim over this stuff, but they don't get into depth, so my child's not gonna remember this should an accident occur, right? I asked a couple of teachers what they do in school and they said they really don't do anything either other than talk about what to do in a fire during the month of October fire prevention month. So I wrote a book because this is near and dear to my heart.

Speaker 1:

I have had multiple friends that have lost kids in tragedies and I don't want to see it happen again if it doesn't have to. We were at the fair over the summer and the first thing I said to my son when we walked through that gate was what's my first and last name? What is your first and last name and what is my phone number? And if you get lost, what are you going to do? You can get my book on Amazon and I will put the link in my show's description Again.

Speaker 2:

It's called let's Talk Emergencies, and I really hope you'll check it out, because there's just no need to be scared when you can choose prepared. But yeah, I couldn't agree more. I think we don't expose parents or learners enough to the emerging industries of the future. Just to share a brief anecdote here we recently invited a sustainability consultant to speak to our learners just to share more about her career and her career story and what she does on a day-to-day basis. And at the end of the session we had a few learners who were really interested in that career path, who had never heard of what a sustainability consultant does. And if you think about the kinds of jobs that are out there, that are emerging and many new ones being born, and then you contrast the exposure that a lot of our high schoolers are getting, or the lack of it, really raises a question of whether we have the right to ask them what they want to be when they grow up if we haven't given them the opportunity to truly explore their options.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's true. And how do you get that exposure? I know for us no-transcript and what they did after, or even came to you like not liking learning at all and totally changed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, there's so many. I mean we serve different kinds of pain points from families, so it's interesting to see the different scenarios play out. So we've had a number of learners who one of our learners, brielle, you know her mom, margareta recently was sharing an interview how they were throughout primary school, moving from school to school, like there were many different issues, frustrations with the curriculum, instances of bullying and so forth and then they were homeschooling for years, for a few years, and she described our school as a school of her dreams because she felt like, okay, finally, like we can learn through practical applications and actually she feels like her daughter can see the relevance of everything that she's learning in school. We've had also a few wonderful instances of learners with special learning differences who were really struggling engaging with traditional learning modalities, who once had more flexibility in their schedules or had the project-based element, the personalized support, were really able to thrive. And some of my favorite stories of impact are learners who are having a positive impact on the world, and we have a number of learners that are working on some really cool things.

Speaker 2:

Whatever learners in Kenya, fardeen is, is leading a not for profit and we have that same learner I mentioned earlier Brielle, who's actually launching a startup in the food security and circular economy space, and so it really excites me when I see you know learners or take the projects they're working on and their challenges and then build on them because they're so excited to like learn through that modality. I mean, regardless of whether those initiatives succeed, they learn so much more right by actually taking that forward. So, yeah, lots of, lots of positive impact that?

Speaker 1:

And what about like for different classes? You know, in the traditional schools you Okay, I'm going to take Spanish this semester and you know, gym is a requirement, and so, like, every state has a different sort of requirement. However, you're not technically homeschoolers, so how does that work? Like I'm in the state of New York, we have pretty strict homeschooling guidelines In your school. Do you have to stick to each state's homeschooling guidelines or do you have your own set of criteria and we don't need to worry about that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so we're licensed out of Florida, which has a lot of freedom for independent and private schools, and that's one of the reasons we chose Florida as a state to set up our school as a virtual license, so we don't have state laws to abide by, and instead we've created our own core curriculum standards that we want to ensure all learners work towards.

Speaker 2:

Now we do deal with regulations a lot regardless, because we serve learners from all around the world, and different countries have different regulations. Some places don't recognize online schooling, so you're considered a homeschooler, and some places don't recognize homeschooling altogether. So there's all these different nuances that we often have to deal with, but, generally speaking, what we do is work with families on a case-by-case basis, so if there is a situation where they need to register with the state, we help them with the documentation. You know, in some countries, we have to do a bit of research with the family on university requirements, because it's more complicated for them, so it really varies. There's so many different sets of laws. I will add, though, that one of the other areas we've been increasingly looking into is education savings accounts. We have a registered vendor in three states already and are looking into more, and I think that's a really exciting segue for us to be able to offer our model at no cost to families where it's kind of covered by the state.

Speaker 1:

Awesome and so kind of. As we round out, why don't you talk to us about the cost? If I wanted to, you know, enroll my children. Do you have upfront costs, or is it? I know a lot of states now are actually reimbursing some homeschooling families. So, yeah, I'm sure there's so many different options, so I'll let you talk about that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so our baseline annual tuition is around 7,800 USD a year and that can be broken down into the termly payments of three terms. We do offer a generous financial aid program. There's always in every cohort a number of learners who don't pay anything and a number of learners have paid or families that pay partial tuition. So we do always welcome families to apply if affordability is an issue, because there might just be eight seats available in that cohort. And then I mentioned in there are three states, which are Utah, arizona and West Virginia, where we are registered with the education savings accounts as a vendor, and in those states we can do up to full tuition coverage that would be covered by the state. So, depending on whether the families are getting reimbursed on other things the other supplies and tools it might be up to full tuition coverage. So we really encourage families from those states that are considering to apply with us and we can help guide them on how to get that reimbursement from the state.

Speaker 1:

And where can people find you? What's the best way for them to get in contact with you or your school or find out more information about the school? And I can link all of this in the show's description as well, but I'll let you talk about it, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So, honestly, all the details can be found on our website, so the SOFhumanitycom, which I'm sure you'll link. You can find information about the curriculum. The model contact forms are on their application forms. Everything is on there. I also encourage everyone to follow us on Instagram. We're quite active and we share updates of the learners, the cohorts, our educators.

Speaker 1:

It's a nice way to get a deeper glimpse into all of it in action, anything else that you want to make sure you talk about before we finish up today.

Speaker 2:

No, I think we've covered all the ground. I guess I'll just wrap up by adding that we have served a lot of homeschoolers and I think I have so much respect for every homeschooling family I meet. They're some of the most wonderfully hands-on parents that I've ever met, so I really enjoy working with homeschoolers, and big kudos to you as well for putting together all these incredible resources for families out there.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much, rhea. Thank you for your time today and for what you're doing. This is just amazing. I'm so glad that parents have more than one option than just traditional school. This is great. So I'll link everything in the show's description. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I appreciate the time. Thank you for tuning into this week's episode of the homeschool how to. If you've enjoyed what you heard and you'd like to contribute to the show, please consider leaving a small tip using the link in my show's description. Or, if you'd rather, please use the link in the description to share this podcast with a friend or on your favorite homeschool group Facebook page. Any effort to help us keep the podcast going is greatly appreciated. Thank you for tuning in and for your love of the next generation.