Explore the hidden chambers of your mind with us, as we navigate the complexity of emotions alongside our expert guest, Kate, a hypnotherapist who's adept at unraveling the subconscious. Her insights reveal the intricate web of fears and phobias, woven from past traumas, and how these shape our reactions and behaviors. Uncover the subconscious promises our minds make in a heartfelt bid to protect us, and learn how these well-intentioned vows can sometimes become barriers to our daily lives.
This conversation dives deep into the mystique of intuition and the profound transformation offered by hypnotherapy, especially through the lens of Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT) pioneered by Marisa Peer. We traverse the landscape of the "sleeping prophet's" historical abilities, and the potency of hypnotherapy in overcoming psychological hurdles, not just in weight loss but also pain management, and even enhancing childbirth experiences. Kate illuminates the role of our subconscious, with its unique functions and perception of time, and how it can be reshaped to foster positive and enduring change within a few sessions.
As we draw the curtains on this episode, we reiterate the journey of healing that hypnotherapy initiates, where clients play an active role in their transformative process. Embracing the challenging emotions of guilt and shame when discovering joy amidst suffering and personal trauma, we extend an invitation to anyone seeking deeper understanding and self-discovery. Join us for a weekly dose of empathy and insight, and don't miss our sister podcast for more explorations on trauma and healing. This session is more than a conversation; it's a stepping stone to embracing the full spectrum of your psyche.
https://katesemeniuk.com/
Explore the hidden chambers of your mind with us, as we navigate the complexity of emotions alongside our expert guest, Kate, a hypnotherapist who's adept at unraveling the subconscious. Her insights reveal the intricate web of fears and phobias, woven from past traumas, and how these shape our reactions and behaviors. Uncover the subconscious promises our minds make in a heartfelt bid to protect us, and learn how these well-intentioned vows can sometimes become barriers to our daily lives.
This conversation dives deep into the mystique of intuition and the profound transformation offered by hypnotherapy, especially through the lens of Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT) pioneered by Marisa Peer. We traverse the landscape of the "sleeping prophet's" historical abilities, and the potency of hypnotherapy in overcoming psychological hurdles, not just in weight loss but also pain management, and even enhancing childbirth experiences. Kate illuminates the role of our subconscious, with its unique functions and perception of time, and how it can be reshaped to foster positive and enduring change within a few sessions.
As we draw the curtains on this episode, we reiterate the journey of healing that hypnotherapy initiates, where clients play an active role in their transformative process. Embracing the challenging emotions of guilt and shame when discovering joy amidst suffering and personal trauma, we extend an invitation to anyone seeking deeper understanding and self-discovery. Join us for a weekly dose of empathy and insight, and don't miss our sister podcast for more explorations on trauma and healing. This session is more than a conversation; it's a stepping stone to embracing the full spectrum of your psyche.
https://katesemeniuk.com/
You don't have to be positive all the time. It's perfectly okay to feel sad, angry, annoyed, frustrated, scared and anxious. Having feelings doesn't make you a negative person. It doesn't even make you weak. It makes you human and we are here to talk through it all. We welcome you to these fucking feelings podcast, A safe space for all who needs it. Grab a drink and take a seat. The session begins now.
Speaker 2:What's up, guys? Welcome to these fucking feelings podcast. I am Micah. I got Rebecca, my girl, here with me and we are glad to have our guest Kate. Oh, my God, I'm gonna mess up your last name, so go ahead and say it again Seminuc, seminuc, okay, cool. So now, kate, one thing that we do ask is we ask all of our guests to introduce themselves, because I know there's like an umbrella of things that you do and I just don't want to miss nothing. So if you can introduce yourself to our audience, Absolutely, thank you.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much for inviting me. I'm Kate. I'm a hypnotherapist. I'm absolutely obsessed and interested in subconscious mind. That's why I started to really dive deep into research about this part of our mind. I grew up in Ukraine, moved to Canada seven years ago and that's when all the changes started to happen in my life. I work with deep trauma, deep hidden triggers that people have and specialize in fears, phobias and anxiety.
Speaker 5:Okay, very good, love the topics I know.
Speaker 2:And I'm scared.
Speaker 5:I'm scared of like weird things. I love them, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I'm scared of like weird things, Like I'm scared of like highway lights. You know, when they have like they're doing construction and they have these big highway lights. I don't know what it is about that, but it freaks me out. It's such a weird thing to be scared of.
Speaker 3:But I know people usually do connect. There's this little pathway, the neuro pathway, that at some point connects the fear towards anything, anything at that moment that your mind locked onto. So people can be afraid of dripping water, they can have phobia of rabbits, cats beautiful, you know, the most funniest animal right. But at the same time for them, it's real.
Speaker 2:It's real, definitely, for me it's real. And I drive so much and I used to drive a lot at night, and it's like, and then by myself, you know, and now I'm on a highway and the speed limit is 75 and I'm doing 20 because these lights are on and I'm like so does a fear connect back to something in your childhood or something that's happened in your past?
Speaker 3:Exactly, yeah. So when something unexpected, traumatic, painful and isolated happened. So there must be like a set of conditions when the event happened. It doesn't have to be always in childhood, it could happen in adulthood as well. For example, you were absolutely fine and then you had a car accident and you might develop a strong fear of driving, until that fear either subsides or you change the belief and you're like yes, okay, I'm safe, I'm good. But for some people they develop severe driving fear because in that moment, when we are kind of by ourselves, it's painful, we don't know how to process it. Our mind has this incredible ability to become a 5D camera, so it takes everything in the smell, the taste, the colors the objects, and so it memorizes it and it makes you a promise.
Speaker 3:The mind is like I'm going to next time, keep you away from it. And depending on how strong that promise is, that's how strong the fear will be. It will either be a phobia, where you are like we have a panic attack, or it might be this feeling of discomfort. So it depends on what kind of promise. If your mind made a promise, hey, I have to tip you out of it at any cost, and it will be mostly phobia. If your mind will label it as it's dangerous but you can do it still, then it will be just a fear or discomfort.
Speaker 2:And I guess that's a cool kind of way of putting it like your mind making a promise to keep you away from it. I've never heard that before, so that's kind of like where did that concept come from?
Speaker 3:Yeah, usually people believe that I am my mind. This is who I am, right, I am my mind. But that's not true, because mind is a tool, it's a tool.
Speaker 3:You use your logic mind for counting, budgeting, analyzing. You use your critical thinking for decision making, for you know making observations, and you use your subconscious mind for feelings and emotions, connections, making something automatic like driving, for example, or reading, or writing. And then there is also a spiritual part of us, the one that actually notices that I'm not happy. Who notices that, who notices that inside I'm not happy, right? So there is a higher consciousness that notices that, and mind is just a tool, and so the mind's basic job is to keep you safe, right?
Speaker 3:Okay, but yeah, really nice promise. Right, I will keep you safe at any moment. But the trick about the mind is that the biggest part of the mind is the subconscious mind and it doesn't know time. So, technically, when it makes a promise, it doesn't know what it's doing for you in the future. So when it made you a promise, don't ever drive. This is the most dangerous activity ever. It doesn't understand the mind does. The subconscious mind doesn't know time so it doesn't know whether it's going to harm you. It's going to be uncomfortable not to drive, it's going to create so many challenges and you will not like it. But the subconscious mind doesn't know time so it makes that promise.
Speaker 2:That's the tricky part about our mind Like this is the way you wanted to go. What was it about the mind that made you want to get to know it better, and this is your field of study now.
Speaker 3:Absolutely so. I worked as a manager, so I worked with many people and we would have these coaching sessions with our employees that we would have to really give them feedback. You know, coach them, and I was very interested in why you talk to the logic and logic knows everything but they still do the way they did before, right, or even me. Even I noticed it about myself. So I would logically know that this food is not healthy, but somehow I would be still drawn to it. I was like what the heck, why? And so I said like okay, there is something more than just my logic. Then I took my first therapy sessions and I realized, like why it's so nice to talk about it. It's amazing. But why do I come home and I drive back to the same patterns, even though, logically, I know that it's not good for me that I have to really start breathing hard, like deeper when I have anxiety.
Speaker 3:but I never did it because the conscious mind usually wins 10 out of 10 if I'm not aware.
Speaker 2:And so that's you are not making me give up my fruit roll-ups, okay, so I draw the line. Okay, and fruit roll-ups okay.
Speaker 3:Micah, it's all about the beliefs you make about the food. You know some people are able to eat any food and you know what they tell to themselves. They tell I'm fine Like I, my mind, my body and my digestive system, just like you know, digest everything. Let everything out that is not needed and absorbing only a good nutrients Right. And that is exactly what's going to happen? Yeah, and that is exactly what's going to happen, because our beliefs recreate in our reality.
Speaker 2:Right, or that whole belief that something's gonna kill me anyway is, I might as well drink this Pepsi.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, as long as you are not thinking about, oh, this soda is going to really damage my health, you know, then I think you should be fine, and you know what we sometimes need. That experience. You need that experience, you know, to experience, to sample life in all its colors and tastes and then realize what's good for you and what's not.
Speaker 2:Right, so you're saying that it could be different for every person?
Speaker 3:It could be different depending on what they believe in. Of course, there is a food that is, for example, that can harm if you consume it in huge amounts. But the reason behind that, what is the reason behind that? Right, there is a reason and the people realize is the reason they're like oh, why am I not treating my body as the most precious temple ever? So there is a reason, and when you find the reason and it's always you will find that right time for that.
Speaker 5:Right? Can everyone be hypnotized, or are there people that you find are unable to be?
Speaker 3:Usually people believe that someone is hypnotizing them, but the reality is that we go into that state of mind that is called hypnosis. Hypnosis is a state of mind, and the deepest one is sleep. Right, the deepest state of hypnosis is sleep and it's a self-hypnosis. So when clients come to me and they, for example, tell me, oh, I cannot be hypnotized, I would say, well, do you ever sleep? And they say, yes, of course. I was like well then, you definitely go into that state of mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have an issue sleeping Like. I have insomnia, so I have to drink like well and smoke a blind.
Speaker 3:but yeah, but you still switch off at some point right, Right, right. Absolutely, even if it happens with the help of other things. But you still manage to switch off and sometimes, having a nap in the middle of the day, the same, go into the grocery store and not remembering how you crossed all the lights and whether you crossed the red light or not. Yeah, that happens sometimes. Right, we drive somewhere and we're like how?
Speaker 5:did I get here? Yeah, that has so happened to me.
Speaker 3:Yes, and that which means that you went into that self-hypnosis. You know you're so hypnotized, you kind of zoomed out, drifted off somewhere into your thoughts, right, the same happens in hypnosis, but it's more guided. Guided, it's more directed. For example, if we go into hypnosis, some people who have extreme PTSD, for example, or extreme control issues, that they believe that if I close my eyes in front of someone then I'm losing control All right, and the biggest control is being able to give away that control.
Speaker 2:You know if you want to, that's got a lot of it now.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I think maybe the thing that would be challenging is the control of going to sleep under the controlled circumstances. Exactly yes, getting yourself to go to sleep upon demand, right, and usually yes, and there are different types of hypnosis.
Speaker 3:There is a deep trance hypnosis, where people actually do go into that deeper trance just like sleep. But there are a Masphid and this is the one that I'm practicing which is a very meditative, light, relaxed state. It's absolutely not something that people are not aware of. They remember everything we talked about in the session, everything that came up, so that they love it, because they believe, like, okay, if I can remember everything that happens, if I have full control of everything that is happening in the session, then great, why not? Yeah, so everyone can be hypnotized. It's whether they want it, it's whether they trust someone to guide them into that state of mind.
Speaker 2:And I think that's probably the hardest thing the trust aspect of it, or finding somebody that you trust or just believing that they're going to guide you the right way. Because you know, when you think about hypnosis, you think about like I'm going to be around here and I'm going to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I probably had 30% of my clients coming to me and, like you know what?
Speaker 3:I've heard so many good things about hypnosis, but you know what? The only thing I know is whatever is happening on those entertainment stages.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly, and it's like I do not want to bark like a dog. Okay, so, egger Casey, have you ever heard of Egger Casey? Sorry, have you ever heard of Egger Casey?
Speaker 3:No, no, no no.
Speaker 2:He was known as a sleeping prophet. I'm going to send you some information on him because I think that's something that he used to do. He used to go into like this sleep state. He used to be able to heal people Like. He used to be able to connect to like other subconsciousnesses and be able to tell people like ways that they can heal themselves. And yeah, so he was known as a sleeping prophet, but he never remembered anything when he was awake. So it's like he would go into like this trance and you know, it was like his father at first would like ask him questions or write down notes and those kind of things. But then when he woke up he didn't remember anything. So they would have to like read things to him. But it makes me I always thought that that was kind of fascinating that he was able to like heal people, you know, through connecting subconsciously to people.
Speaker 3:So it's fascinating for me. It is fascinating, you know, when you listen to your intuition, there is no limit to it. So sometimes people believe like, oh, there is some, you know they have the skills. Yes, they might have the skills and abilities and some gifts, but usually it is just heightened connection to your intuition. That's it. And intuition is limitless. You don't know the limits, the boundaries of it, so you don't know how your intuition can tell you so much about yourself and about other people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so intuition is something you're saying we should always listen to.
Speaker 3:We should really recognize what is intuition and what is unreasonable fear. Very similar, sometimes Right right, right. You know you might be afraid of. You might be afraid of driving or flying, and you will be and you will. If you listen and you confuse it with intuition, you will think. You will think like, oh, maybe I'm going to have an airplane crash, that's why my intuition is holding me back from flying.
Speaker 2:I feel that way every time I get on a plane. I feel like, can there please be a baby up here, because it's not going to go down? If it's a baby, all right, that's funny.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so usually yeah, usually it's the way. It's a skill to be able to differentiate the intuition and fear. Intuition is softer Usually, it's much softer than the fear. Let's just say, these small butterflies in your stomach that is, ah, this person gives me a vibe, you know Something like that.
Speaker 2:To describe it. You did really well on that. Okay, Thumbs up on that one.
Speaker 5:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:So now I know I was reading about with RTT hypnosis, yes. So let's talk about that a little bit, because I know I was reading that it was saying like three sessions. You should like, three sessions is all you may need.
Speaker 3:Yes, usually the method was created and invented by Marisa Pierre. She's a renowned hypnotherapist. I've seen her in action and it's incredible. But she usually was also very fascinated about the root cause. But not only about the root cause of the problem, but she was very fascinated in how can you shift the perception. You know how can you shift people's thinking fast and rapidly. Like she was, she was determined to find that method and she did. She worked for 30 years until she she actually brought this method to life, like to people, and started to teach that method Before she would use it only for her self and her clients.
Speaker 3:And this method what I liked is because I'm an inpatient person. Right, because I was, because I was like I don't want to go and go and talk about my problems for years. Right, I don't. I understand that some people might feel a release or a comfort in that, but for me it was like no, I want to live my life Right. So if there is a way that is rapid, transformational, can be done in less than three, three sessions, I'm in for it. Right, like I'm more than a car.
Speaker 3:Right. Imagine imagine you go to the pharmacist and you need something from a headache from like a migraine and the pharmacist is telling you you know what? There are these two options. One you can have a migraine for three months, but you're going to take this for three months every day and it's going to get better. And there is another medication that you're going to take for three times and it's going to get better, right? What would you?
Speaker 2:choose. Yeah, right, like I'm going to take the three times.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, yeah, yes, of course a big responsibility is on the client and how they commit to change, how they listen to the recording that I make them after the session to program and rewire their mind. But if they do, if they do everything, they feel the shift. They feel like, oh my, one session of hypnotherapy can equal 10 therapy sessions.
Speaker 2:Wow, yes, people would go and choose it for sure, and this is something that you can do virtually.
Speaker 3:Yes, absolutely yes, respiratory. Zoom over Zoom. It works great, as long as the person finds that quiet place for themselves.
Speaker 2:Yes, so I think that'll be my. One problem is my mind is so busy that it won't shut the hell up. Shut up, it's like I go to sleep. But I think that that's where I have a hard time believing or not believing, but being willing to try these methods because I don't think that I can do it. So I guess maybe is that fear.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's interesting when people believe that my mind, I need to shut down my mind or quiet down my mind. It's not possible. So the mind never shuts down. Even when we go to sleep, our subconscious mind never sleeps. It works. It's magic there, recovery and working. Lots of processes are happening automatic in your body at night and nightmares and dreams are the realm of the subconscious mind. So no, we never shut down our mind, ever. The only thing you can do is slow down it a little bit. That's it.
Speaker 5:I really want to talk about the weight loss hypnosis yes Category. Micah's looking at me like OK, spit it out. I couldn't think of a word Because you know Probably I want to say most of my adult life I've struggled with up and down weight gain, weight loss, blah, blah, blah, and I was reading a little bit on your website about it. But can you tell us a little bit about how that portion of hypnosis works?
Speaker 3:Yes, weight loss has a psychological reason as well, whether it's self-punishment protection, maybe it's like an extra layer of protection, we don't know. But only the mind knows and it will be tailored to each client. If there is a psychological reason and then people go for diets, they go for different programs and they feel like, yes, it works. And then as soon as they end the program, boom, it's bad or it's even more. Then it was before. They gain more weight or they sabotage.
Speaker 3:The very often we go for diets, we will like, yes, it works for one week and then the mind gets so resistant to sabotage it and we just stop the program. We stop it. We are not consistent, we're not following through. So that's a psychological reason for why we are not committed to losing weight if we want to do that. Also, the conscious mind doesn't like the word, and that's Marisa's peer concept. I love it. She says your mind doesn't like a word losing. If you say I want to lose weight, the mind gets into the panic. It's like what Are we losing something? We can't lose anything, because if we lose something then we might not survive.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know about that one, because I lose stuff every day. Okay, my mind does not think about no, not lost.
Speaker 3:Yes, the mind can do that. The mind knows what's beneficial for you, what it believes is beneficial for you, and if it's not so, for psychological reasons. Working together, hypnosis can work on that subconscious mind programming with the weight shedding, or you can let go of the weight that is not needed. That's the better way. Or I'm becoming fit, I'm becoming slimmer, so that will help when you talk to yourself in a little bit of a different language. But technically, when you work on both levels, psychological and physical, of course you're going to have an incredible result, much better result than if you just go and you exercise. But the mind still believes, the old believes. And as soon as the trigger comes in, as soon as the some stress comes in, we drag back.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and you pair that with anxiety or depression, it's like a disaster. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3:We also need to remember that, since you are about feelings right.
Speaker 3:Since the podcast is about feelings. That feelings, for example, fear it's three times as more strong, as stronger as, for example, desire to have something. So if you want to have for example, I want to lose 20 pounds but your fear of losing that weight, subconsciously it will be stronger. So the same with any other fear I want to open the business, but the fear of rejection and the fear of failure will be three times stronger. So in order to overcome it, to balance it, you need to make a desire really attractive, like put it everywhere in your home Vision boards, getting excited about it, dreaming about it, listening to your meditations that you made by yourself, about creating, so that you override the fear, override the intensity of the fear.
Speaker 2:So it sounds like it's more than just hypnosis. It's like some follow up behind it.
Speaker 3:Absolutely yeah. You know, when people come to me for hypnosis and I tell them like it's not only about the session, right, I'll give you so many tools and I also give them their recording that they listen for 21 days newer signs to build the habit. And when they listen and listen and listen to the same exact belief that they want to believe in, the mind doesn't have any other choice but surrender.
Speaker 2:That's pretty cool. And that's something that's tailored to like each customer.
Speaker 3:Right or decline yes, yes, and so the same was weight loss, right? Of course, if we just sit there and listen to the recording and we believe that we're going to lose weight, then it can happen. I've seen that happen. People lose hypnosis, use hypnosis audios for losing weight, but at the same time, they start to get more inspired to move their body more Right. They get more inspired to treat their body better. So it's also about loving your body. Weight loss has a lot to do with loving your body. Yeah, except in just the way it is at this moment. So if you work together, are you going to have a great result that is going to be permanent.
Speaker 2:So now can hypnosis help with like pain, physical pain or chronic pain and those kind of things.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, yes, I think that originally hypnosis was for very deep trauma, first right, and also for pain management, people who couldn't have any painkillers, for example. You know there are dental hypnosis, when people can put you in hypnosis and you don't feel the pain at all Because your mind switches off the sensations in some parts of the body. There were surgeries done under hypnosis because people couldn't have any medication.
Speaker 2:And that's something that work, can work long term.
Speaker 3:Yes, it can work for hours if the hypnotist is there. The hypnotherapist is there guiding them. You know children very often can benefit from hypnosis, especially at the dental office.
Speaker 5:Mind is a powerful thing. It is.
Speaker 3:It's a powerful thing. Yes, Pain management as well. Pain management as well. And you know, we have seen it in action how people have a very intense, for example, pain in their elbow which is like maybe arthritis, but they don't know yet, but it really hurts, and then the hypnotherapist is guiding a person to switch off, to release the pain from that part. And people do confirm oh my goodness, there was a moment where it didn't feel the pain. Which means how much is controlled by our mind.
Speaker 5:When I was having my children, especially my first one, I didn't have any medication or anything or epidural or anything like that. And people wondered why I did so well and I guess pretty much what I had said was I just always put the pain in my mind and I just handled it that way. And pretty much the second and third child I did the same, but come the third child it got a little harder. But that's pretty much just what I did. I just I didn't know I was doing it at first, but I just kind of I don't know what I did, but that's how I handled it.
Speaker 3:Yes, and it's a very natural process. Given birth is a very natural process. So if a woman really sets her up for success, absolutely it can happen. If there are no any other physical conditions that limit her ability to give birth, then it comes natural. And the pain we are prone to be very resilient to that pain. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But now she says she puts the pain in her mind. Can that be a negative thing? Like is that where you want to keep pain? Would you want to keep it in your mind?
Speaker 3:Yes, with this birth, with given birth, usually it's a little bit different because our hormones work the way that we forget about that pain very fast and we switch to something else, like nurturing the child, the baby, Even though we still remember that it hurts, we don't remember. We're hormones work in the way that we are not afraid of that pain anymore, even though for some people it can happen. Some people can develop a pain after a given birth, putting the fear in her head. What did that mean to you? Did you set yourself up for that? You know, believe that I'm just going to handle it all in my head and I'm just going to go through it, or how did it look like?
Speaker 5:Honestly, at first I didn't realize. It just kind of automatically happened. But I, just when the biggest pain came on, I just in my mind, I said different things to myself and I didn't allow my whole body to feel the pain. It was just like I worked through it through my mind. I just kind of concentrated on the pain in a way that I could manage it, I guess, and not just let it consume me.
Speaker 3:And that's a very direct example of hypnotizing myself Okay.
Speaker 2:Like you were doing it on yourself. Can you teach me? My biggest struggle is guilt. I always feel guilty about everything. You know. It's like right now I'm in a pretty good place in life, but I feel bad, that other people aren't, you know, or that people are out there pain and hungry and tired and sleepy. And you know, to me it's like I'm always guilty. It was like I want to save the world, but I know it's not my job, but I feel guilty because I'm not saving the world.
Speaker 3:Usually we are born with natural emotions, so and guilt is not that emotion. So when we are born with natural emotions, which is sadness, anger, fear, joy, wonder, courage, love, all of that is our born, inborn emotions and which means that you will always feel them. So at some point you'll get frustrated, you will feel fear At some point, or anger you will. At some point you will feel calm and you have this unconditional love that you feel. However, there are three emotions and feelings that are artificial, which means that they are socially imposed, and it's guilt, shame and blame, also envy as well. It's a social, it develops when we are in the social settings.
Speaker 2:But I do know that because I kind of so. I didn't grow up in a religious household, but we grew up with a belief, and a lot of that was sin and punishment and those kind of things. And it's like even now, in my struggle, where I don't know what I believe in as far as faith, whether I believe in God or Jesus, whether I'm Christian or Muslim, you know, I'm still in that search. I still always feel like this everything is sinful, you know. And then I always think about my brother. I always put him on blast because he's like you know, you're doing so good, make sure you're thankful God is gonna take it away.
Speaker 3:And it's like why do we gotta say that, yeah, usually, yeah Usually a religion as much as they can help some people get through a lot of pain and a lot of struggles. It also divides the world into good or bad right around, and so when you believe that something is not right or something is really wrong, then I'm responsible. There is something wrong with me. I'm responsible for that. So we feel guilt, or are you? But the universe doesn't know about that. The nature law only knows what's beneficial and what's not beneficial, and it's completely different from right or wrong or good or bad.
Speaker 2:So now could hypnotists help me with this?
Speaker 3:I would say it's the practice that can help you with this. So, when you look at something and you divide it into good or bad, ask yourself why is it bad? Because I learned that it's bad, but maybe it's their experience. For example, some people did something bad. It's their experience as well. And as much as you wanna help and you will help in some moments, like protecting something or with someone however, you always need to realize that the universe only knows what's beneficial and what's not. That's it. And when you blur that line between right or wrong, then you release the guilt as well.
Speaker 3:Because, then you look at yourself as like whatever I do, it's not right or wrong. I'm doing the best I can, based on my experience and on my mindset. So why would I feel guilt? Why would you put a guilt on a six-year-old child who doesn't know there are no multiplication?
Speaker 5:Right yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then they feel it.
Speaker 2:I can't eat it, so I'm gonna throw it away. I know there's people that's hungry, but I just can't eat it. I can't Sorry. I had a little meltdown. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but technically, every feeling, which is these artificial feelings like guilt, blame or shame, and envy and greed as well, this is something that we can unlearn. Okay, we learned that we can unlearn it. You cannot unlearn anger. This is not possible. You can release it, you can understand it. You can understand the pain behind it. Right, you can become a manager of the anger, yeah, but you cannot unlearn it. But these feelings like guilt and shame, they're toxic, surely toxic, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Because I feel like that's the biggest damper in my life, that I'm always concerned about everybody else and it's like I'm single, I don't have no kids, I shouldn't have no stress, you know, but everybody else is stressing me.
Speaker 5:Let's just say I'm always having, you know always.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it drives me crazy. We can talk about that another time, Kate. We can talk about this another time. Yeah. So now I even read that it said one hip-not therapy session can be beneficial. So let's, I guess let's talk about the process, or it's gonna be a multi-question, right, Because now I got so many questions at one time, but I guess, is there like a certain candidate that's good for hip-not therapy?
Speaker 3:Any candidate that wants it.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, so that is so.
Speaker 3:You know, like I want to, I'm opening my mind to different methods of how I can help myself. It's not me helping a client, I'm guiding them to help themselves. But so let's put the. It's a big responsibility on me to be able to have the skill to guide them, to find the root cause, to shift the perspective. But at the same time, the biggest responsibility is on the client. And it's beautiful, because when they take that responsibility, they start to say, wow, nothing can fix me, I can fix myself. Isn't that beautiful to have that huge power of being able to work?
Speaker 3:I think my patients.
Speaker 2:I would need somebody to have patients.
Speaker 5:Yeah, definitely have to have patients.
Speaker 2:Right, because that's with me. Yes, because I'm one of those people that are not really good following directions, but I can always get to the end result. Shut up, rebecca. Oh, you're saying I talk too much, but I learned that in therapy. Therapy told me to talk.
Speaker 5:I got born talking. I mean, I talk in my sleep.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so technically, yes, usually people believe that in hypnotherapy they just have to follow. No, that's the thing. So in hypnotherapy they go on a journey, they trust the hypnotherapist to show them something that they don't see themselves and they want to go there. They don't have to follow the instructor, they want to go there.
Speaker 3:It's like oh my goodness, I want to find out why it's not working for me, like what is holding me back. So usually hypnotherapy session is always it's like a journey that the client goes on to and I'm just joining Joining the client on that journey and that's beautiful.
Speaker 2:That has to be like I said there has to be some pretty cool things to witness, to be there in somebody's healing, in their healing journey. So, that's pretty cool and then it's awesome. It speaks volumes about you wanting to be part of that journey and wanting to teach people these things, so you commend yourself, that's pretty, pretty awesome and amazing.
Speaker 5:So can you pair or put together different areas of, let's say, weight loss with anxiety and depression? I mean, can you encompass all of those things into like?
Speaker 2:That's gonna be a three session one, but yeah.
Speaker 5:Like a one package kind of thing, because some of us have to deal with all of that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, usually we can work in a package. Three sessions is usually when you go different layers, you know uncovering, but I always tell clients everything is connected. Everything is connected. If I work with a client on, for example, on confidence right, they wanna gain more confidence public speaking, and when we work they text me or they email me as a followup in a week or two and they you know what I noticed I stand up for myself better, like it's all connected, or I make healthier choices, or I started to engage back in my hobby that I didn't do for eight years. We never know what changes are gonna come after realizations in the session. Usually the root cause is only couple of core beliefs, like I'm not worthy, I'm not good enough, there is something different, there's just something wrong with me, I don't belong here. There are some core beliefs that everything else is unfolding out of those beliefs. So everything is connected.
Speaker 2:See, I feel like I know all my root causes. I just don't know how to get past them. So we got the first part, is easy. I can tell you what the problem is, it's just moving past it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly. So we use a lot. Of us know that, oh, I don't feel enough right, or I don't feel worthy, I don't feel like I can cope with this. However, since the subconscious mind doesn't know, time that's why you?
Speaker 3:cannot go past it because your mind still believes, like you are, in that, whatever five year old, 12 year old, 14 year old, it still believes you're there. So the goal of the hypnotherapy is to talk to your subconscious mind, to give it an understanding that, hey, I'm 36, for example, me, right, I'm 36, I'm not that hopeless, helpless, out of control girl, right. And then my, the subconscious mind will listen. It will listen.
Speaker 2:So now is this something. So now I do these three sessions because I got to go for the big package, right? So I'm gonna come and I'm gonna do three sessions, and you know. So now I'm at the point and I'm healing, and those kind of things. Is it? Can I like stay in that phase, or do I need to come back for follow-ups to like get retuned up, or is it just kind of like I can, this can actually heal me? Heal me.
Speaker 3:Well, first of all, you heal yourself. Not this heals you. That's a good. You know you're mind. As soon as you say something fixes me or something helps me, you're like oh, that's not my responsibility, that's that responsibility. Okay, yeah, so it's good.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, you heal yourself.
Speaker 3:So whenever you get gain those insights and realization and you're like yay you start to sing differently. You start to really like, oh, I don't need to do that anymore. So you start to change your behaviors. So first comes a thought, that comes in emotion, comes the feeling and then comes the behavior. So hypnotherapy works on the level of thoughts and beliefs, and when your beliefs change about yourself, you start to believe in a different things, and then emotions change. Then the triggers, the behaviors, are different. The behaviors are different, everything is different.
Speaker 2:Now, is this something that you did yourself? Is it was something like happened to you when they decided to teach others, or yes, so I just tried myself.
Speaker 3:I did believe in it so much because before that I tried other different medallies, starting from CBT and just talk therapy. I, after I tried RTT, I was very curious about is there something else that fast Can I do something else? So I started to explore different medallies, rake, soul search, different types of therapy, you know, family systems, everything that I could find. I would take a session to sample, it, to like, really try to like. Okay, let's try this later. I haven't found yet something as integrative, as complete as RTT session. There are glimpse of each tool that we use. There is in different methods, but I think that RTT just gave me this tool that oh my goodness it's can help anyone with any problem.
Speaker 2:When were you and I feel like that's what it sounds like to me, like all of the kind of methods you can seek sound like they can be part of this journey with the RTT.
Speaker 3:I would say yes, rtt is a journey. It's a journey of your life. You look at your life differently. That's it. You go back. There is a regression. That is part of the hypnotherapy session, of any hypnosis, a method, and there will be regression. You look at the memories and you change the beliefs that you cannot change what happened, but you can change how you look at it. That's the only thing you can change in your life. It's the way you look at the events and experiences that happened in your life.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:And that helps you?
Speaker 2:Do you have to come into this with a sense of I believe in it, or can you still be a skeptic and benefit from it?
Speaker 3:I would say people do need to. It's not that they do need to do something, but it's great when they are open, when they don't have any expectations. When you're skeptical, technically, underneath there is a belief eh, it won't work, or I don't believe in that, or it's probably some time, whatever it is. But when you are not putting any expectations on the session, that's a beautiful experience. If you put expectations oh, this is the one key of my life. Right, if this doesn't work, nothing really works.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's not do that. Nobody watching. Do that, okay, hey, hey hey, hey, hey hey hey, hey, hey hey. It works. And then let me know. Yeah, well, let me know. But you know, I was just thinking and it's not so much like me being skeptical of it, but it's just kind of like. You know, I've tried like guided meditations and then I'm end up thinking about my meditation room and not even thinking about what I'm supposed to be following, and then it's like the deep breaths, they say seven.
Speaker 2:Was it supposed to be seven seconds or six seconds? I don't know. I lost count Like I go through.
Speaker 3:Yeah, usually if you the best way, if people, for example, if they think a lot, right, they think a lot, they talk to themselves a lot yes, I do, or talk even like allowed a lot, which means that you breathe very fast. You probably breathe very fast Because the faster your breathing is, the faster the thoughts come in.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2:And then I talk a lot out loud and talk a lot in my brain, and I'm doing it at the same time.
Speaker 3:You see, so you're not alone, you're never alone. You have a whole company. What?
Speaker 2:The father, the son and the Holy Spirit right in there, you know what.
Speaker 2:I mean the Holy Trinity in there, but I, you know, it's like I know, you know it's, I believe you know, and it's just I do. But then it's like I'm scared, like if I tried and it doesn't work, that it discouraged me Because I'm still in that state, like I can't quiet my mind. I have tried everything under the sun to quiet my mind. You know, now I listen to music at night to try to go to sleep, right, and then it's like I'm thinking about well, when did this song come out? I think I was like six when this song was out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you sound really good Like I don't know the movie production company inside your mind.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is it like it takes me hours to fall asleep. Nothing irks me more than when someone is like I'm going to sleep and then you turn around and they sleep. I've been wanting to choke the shit out of people Like what the hell did you go to sleep that quick? Now I got to find the right spot. I got to figure out something that I could just loop in my mind that will keep me calm enough so that I can finally get these two hours of sleep that I get every night. So yeah, see it's okay, I'm like me.
Speaker 2:Okay, because I believe, I do believe. I just don't know if it can work for me. And so is that believing or not believing. I want to be healed, though, See, that's my issue. I'm willing to try it because I want to be healed.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so usually people believe that healing has like a deadline or a timeframe. Healing is a process. It doesn't know time, Subconscious mind doesn't know time and healing is happening in the subconscious mind, which means that there is no time deadline. You know people say, oh, it's going to take you years, Like how did they know? Like it's not possible. Some people wake up in the morning and they have to want to leave. They say I'm not smoking today at all. Cold turkey We've seen those people right who, cold turkey, drops something, drinking, smoking, whatever.
Speaker 2:They get on my nerves.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Those people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it doesn't mean that there is something special. They just made the decision.
Speaker 2:That's it, right, that is it. They just made that, that's it.
Speaker 3:And when we don't make a decision. We're like, eh you know, maybe on Monday, tomorrow, that's not a making decision. So, uh, with the, with the fast paced mind, let's just say right, was that mind that what you tell to yourself this is exactly what's going to happen, doesn't matter what you do. So you put on the music and you put on the meditation, but you tell yourself, I can't stop my mind, my mind never shuts up the things. That's exactly what's going to happen, no matter what you do. If you put, you go to yoga class, you know you go to Yin Yang class, whatever you do, whatever you want to do, you put hours of meditation, you put like these different vibrations, audience, doesn't matter. If you tell yourself, I cannot shut up my mind, your mind is like okay, that let's not shut up.
Speaker 3:There it is.
Speaker 5:Tonight you're going to lay down in bed. You're going to not turn the music on, you're just going to lay there and you're going to go. I'm good to go to sleep. Brain off, that's your way.
Speaker 2:Because look K E be serious, right I can I go to sleep? Pillows, a sheet and a quilt. When I wake up somehow I remove this sheet from under the quilt. I'm still sleeping under the quilt and I have no pillows. They're all over the floor and my ankles always hurt oh Lord. He is a mess, and then my ankles hurt. I was like, damn, what the fuck do I do in my sleep? Oh, Lord.
Speaker 3:Well, you probably, because your subconscious mind is so powerful you're now overriding you a lot of time at sleep. Your subconscious mind works so powerfully that you actually move around. Like you move, like you are moving in your dream, you know. Maybe you're running somewhere hiking or running from monsters. You must have another personality or something.
Speaker 5:I think we have an issue here. Oh my God Like.
Speaker 2:I think he discovered this, I think we did, I think he's a super good person.
Speaker 5:We need to kick that other person out so he can sleep.
Speaker 2:I mean, but it's never bad thoughts, I don't think, but you're right, I mean it's like I guess I do need to like it's just changing the way. I think we're going to talk, kate, we're going to talk. You're going to hear them from me, but me, but also let, I'm going to tell you I'm going to talk about you on the podcast now right. There is nothing wrong.
Speaker 4:Look, look at the kids.
Speaker 3:This is exactly how they sleep. They move around at night. All the time they move around.
Speaker 2:They wake up like they're headed in a different direction.
Speaker 3:You know, because the subconscious mind is super strong, super creative, and can you imagine what you can do with the power of your mind? So if you dream about something right and then you move around, run or like toss around, you know, move around. Can you imagine that, what you tell to yourself, how it recreates in the reality?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Because I even control my dreams. Sometimes I'd be like, uh-uh, you went through the wrong door, we're going to start over. Let's go through the right door at this time.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's beautiful. I think it's beautiful If you're conscious that you are draining. That's really nice. It's a really nice, which means that you can you can have a really powerful hold over your mind and really use it for benefit.
Speaker 2:You know what? I'm glad that you came on today because I've been going through a little struggle just with my own kind of like depression and anxiety lately, and only I'm on a healing journey and I feel like I've dealt, not dealt with, I'm not healed, but I have an understanding of a lot of my trauma. So that doesn't hold on to me as now. It's now. It's just I don't know. It's like, like I said, it's like being guilty about being happy in a miserable world. That's my issue. It's like I feel I'm like ashamed that I have happiness when there's so many failed relationships going on. You know my mom and her health issues and family members sick and people in prison, and you know people getting shot because of race and Trump still running for president. Sorry, if you're a Trump supporter, I don't think you are right?
Speaker 2:No, I know I'm like you and he got to answer that. I ain't mean to ask, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:Okay, this is an interesting concept. Okay, this is an interesting concept when we because you've mentioned, right, that you are on the you know healing journey, right, and you know, you, you just discovering, right, All of these things about yourself, right, yes, and usually people believe that, okay, if I figure this out, if I figure this depression, it's going to be perfect.
Speaker 3:So I'm going to do this, and I'm sure your audience won't be able to to see that, but I'm going to describe it. So there's a tissue box right in front of my hands and so we believe that this is a depression and if we figure it out, that's it. We're happy, Right, and we figure it out, and we figure out anxiety, and then there is a shield. Learning about yourself is a happiness in itself, as you learn about yourself, about your mind, and how powerful it can be. Micah, it can be really powerful. You know it's. Kids can control their dreams, like my daughter. She's 14 and she can go, she can dream and she's like oh, I'm just like. Creating this scenario is how I want to is an incredible manifestation, power that people forget about it. We all could do it when we were kids. We just lost that skill, Like I mean, we unlearned it. It became a real thing.
Speaker 2:That's what you say, because you know, taught me a lot of these things I learned now, so yes, exactly so.
Speaker 3:And then something new happens, like we learned about ourselves. And when we get better, we feel better, we feel happier. Sometimes we feel these spurts of inner peace, you know, even when we're like wow, wow, wow. And then the belief inside us from back, from back there, from all the roles we played, is do I deserve happiness? Right, right, oh no, I can't Like, I don't allow myself, I'm going to forbid myself happiness. So that's the guilt steps in. Okay, let's, let's make it worse.
Speaker 3:Because, yes, my thing is like how can you be happy when so many people aren't happy, you know, and the other concept, my very important concept and it will be great for your audience as well to hear that out and for everyone that some people have the ability to calibrate with others. Calibration is the is the ability of the mind to feel other people's emotions or to kind of step into their life like, ah, they feel so bad. So calibration means that you at some point as a child wanted to fit in. You wanted to know what other people's feels so that you can predict what to do, you know. So calibration is an incredible feeling.
Speaker 3:I calibrate with my clients all the time, but I choose to do that when I need to. So, technically, when you grow and you learn about yourself and you go further on the healing journey, you can learn when you calibrate and when you don't. For example, in intimacy we calibrate with our partner Because we can feel our emotions and feelings right and kind of connecting. When you are in a social setting, at a meeting, for example, you will learn to switch it off, not calibrate yourself with other views. So calibration is an amazing thing, but sometimes we do it too much.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:And then we start to feel other people's you know, misery, depression.
Speaker 2:Right yeah, right yeah.
Speaker 3:And that's so. You use that skill, you switch it on, switch it off, and it's a skill. No one really showed us how to do that Right. So the life, adult life, is about learning to do that.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. So this has been amazing for me because you have taught me so much already. Right For sure, I'm like, oh God, because I feel like, okay, I don't, I'm always calibrated, I'm always on, you know. So I mean, it's true, I'm always, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm feel like I have to make everybody feel better and I'm the joke at seven o'clock in the morning and you know, and people like this dude need to calm his little ass down. But yeah, yeah, I think yeah and it comes with time.
Speaker 3:You know it comes with time. I use to do that as well. I used to do this and then, when I started to work with clients, I realized that it's a beautiful skill, when you work with with the client, to calibrate with them and really be able to guide them. Okay. Okay, I can guide them here and here because I, because I feel what they feel. But as soon as they leave my house, which my office is at home that then I switch it up Right, and then my kids come from school and I switch it on because I want to connect with them Definitely, and then I go and talk to someone and switch it up. It depends on what I want. Do I want to connect with this person? I'm going to calibrate Right, but I filter it. So you're going to learn, michael, to filter it. Yes, I do feel what you feel and I really feel sorry, but that's not my experience, that's not my love.
Speaker 2:You're right? Okay, all right. So now it's there anything that you want to say to our audience that you didn't get to say because I turned this into my own personal therapy session.
Speaker 3:I think that everyone needs to remember, and it would be great for for the audience to know, that feelings and emotions right, are our guides Right and and the best part about them is that we can listen to them, but we choose what to do with them, right, it's not shutting down, not for any way.
Speaker 3:Yes, come on here. Emotions, feelings coming in, let's talk. Let's talk. Let's see what you're trying to tell me. Right, but you decided to do with them. So the power is always here, no matter how much you want to look for it. So somewhere else, it's always inside of us.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, best message ever. Right there inside of you.
Speaker 5:Inside of you.
Speaker 2:Stop looking for everybody else to heal you. Get with Kate. We're going to list all your information on our website online podcast episode Get with Kate and she's going to show you how to help yourself there you go Right. Yes, exactly Okay, and we're going to schedule something we're on deaf. And I'm just letting these people know. If you're not patient with me, I'm coming and I'm talking about you, okay, Can you imagine?
Speaker 3:can you imagine next time you go in the podcast and you're so quiet I know Then Rebecca has to do all the talking, rebecca, I finally get a chance to talk you know all about me for a change.
Speaker 2:They're going to be like what's wrong with you? I'm going to say one thing, kate no therapy, rtt. You know, it really really sounds amazing. Honestly, I, honestly I am. I am curious. So I'm definitely going to reach out to you and I won't waste your time. I promise I'm going to be fully invested. It's not, you know. I mean, like I said, it's still a little part of me, it's like. But then I do feel like I'm I do go and hypnosis states, hypnotic states, hypnotic states, because I just be tuning people out and being my own little world, you know.
Speaker 5:I do it all the time, I will be so easy to hypnotize. It'll be like that for me, because I have such the ability to just oh, but when you do it, can you give her a sense of humor?
Speaker 2:Rebecca, you have a sense of humor. Is this just?
Speaker 5:I am going to kick your butt, yeah. So when we do come back and I'm done with my sessions with Kate, there's going to be half of me.
Speaker 2:Because she's going to be skinnier. Yes, yes.
Speaker 3:Oh, you see, Michael is already learning how to how to talk. She's not going to lose weight, she's going to get skinnier.
Speaker 2:Right, right, because we're going to get rid of that word losing. I might not lose, exactly. Look, I might not lose nothing, no more. And I do lose everything. I am one of those people, but I'm perfectly fine with losing it, because I feel like I'm going to find it when I need it.
Speaker 3:Good, oh, that's a good belief, right, that's a really good belief.
Speaker 5:Dang, you've got him already changed.
Speaker 2:I know you don't change In this conversation. We thank you so much for being on Thank you. I'm sorry if this wasn't what you expected, but I told you, podcasts with us go any kind of way. You were amazing. You were a trooper. That's a really nice tissue box too, just by the way, like that's hard.
Speaker 5:So on that note, we'll end with nice tissue box.
Speaker 2:Yes, thank you guys. Thank you so much, kate, and we will see you next week. Thanks.
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