The one where we need guests

This week, Gavin is obsessed with money, David is obsessed with neighborhood Facebook drama, we apologize to Dan Savage, we bring back the popular "what would you do?," and finally we rank the top 3 places to pee.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:00

Oh, it's not just me. I love it. I just relish when you fuck up. No, this is not a fuck up. This is a a deliberate pause. A dramatic pause. A faggoty pause. You next time on another episode of Gatry Arks. No way.

David: 0:18

Um and this is Gatry Arts.

Gavin: 0:35

So I'm uh excited. I'm gonna have a weekend away with the kids, sort of. Um going into the city this weekend. And uh well, I am solo daddy, and so I am making it a bit of an amusement park weekend. Uh school has yet to start, thank God. And um, so we're gonna go into the city and um, well, stay in long story short, an empty apartment. And um, but I I and so I'm thinking, well, we're gonna save money because I'm not like going to you know, spend money on a hotel or an Airbnb or something, right? But it's gonna be so expensive. And it makes me think, is it just life? I feel like I see people complaining about how expensive life is. And of course, everything is Trump's fault, right? But like, no, really, is it? Is it is this is this just what everybody in their 40s since the dawn of time has realized? Oh my god, life is so expensive or is it different right now? Are you complaining about things being expensive?

David: 1:25

Well, I don't complain nearly as much as you complain, but yes, I everything is expensive. Literally, we just had to put four new tires on our car. It was like$1,500. You might as well have just bought a new car. Well, I I literally did the math and I was like, if I just took Ubers everywhere I needed to go, would I have spent$1,500 for the year, but also what,$100,$200 a month in gas insurance? I was like, should I just start taking Ubers everywhere?

Gavin: 1:50

I mean, I am I am I am surprised that the whole car share world has not taken off like we thought it was gonna be. You know, of course, we should also be in flying cars by now, according to the Jetsons, right? But like I am really surprised that even in New York, you know, 15 years ago, they were really trying to do the ride share thing. I don't think it's that's just not happening. People Uber, obviously, but that's gonna borrow a car pooling. Yeah. Or I'm gonna use a car for eight hours and drop it off at this spot, and somebody else puts in a magical code and they keep driving it from there, you know, just that kind of thing.

David: 2:25

I do remember the carpooling feature on Uber, which I think they've gotten rid of. And I remember taking a couple of pretty awkward rides. You know what I mean? Because it's not just you and another person on other side. Sometimes there's three or four people where you're like touching shoulders with somebody, which feels normal, like on the seven train, but something about being in a car with a stranger feels very different.

Gavin: 2:45

I know, but also jury duty-esque, too, right? Like imagine the short stories you get to write about rubbing the elbows, quite literally, with complete strangers and what comes of it. I mean, I suppose the three times the the 10% of times that it was bad, undoubtedly for women, because men suck. But um the five percent of times it was good between two gay dudes sitting together and the back of the Do you know what I mean?

David: 3:09

That could be the beginning of a really beautiful love story. Absolutely. All right, so I am moving, and I've just decided it's been my it's gonna be my entire identity for the next month because this is insufferable. It's so insufferable.

Gavin: 3:24

It's can I get a guest, a special guest star co-host, so we don't have to talk about moving for the next two episodes?

David: 3:30

But you know, I realize that like you don't move very often, right? Like you move once every five, 10, 15 years. That's why it's so stressful. Well, also, you just don't have any idea how much shit is in your house. But that's not what I'm gonna talk about. I want to talk about this week um the Facebook groups, because I don't know about your town, but we have, you know, local buy nothing groups and local neighborhood groups where people say, Hey, there's a dog on Main Street and Elm or whatever. And so obviously, I'm a member of a lot of the groups here, the sales groups or whatever. And now I'm starting to join the new town groups. Yeah, transitioning. So it's so fucking funny to like see what is always the same. And one of the things I've noticed that is always the same are people in the groups complaining about how the neighborhood is changing. And this wasn't the way when I was a kid. Oh right? The old person, like, you know, oh my God, they're knocking down this. God, this this neighborhood's going to hell in a handbasket. Right. And now that I'm moving from one neighborhood to another, it is hilarious that everybody has people in their neighborhood who are mad that it's changing and who think it's going to the dumps. Yeah. Everyone's saying everyone's fleeing this neighborhood because of the crime. No, they're not. They are not doing that. You are old and you hate change. And it's just And everything's expensive. And everything is expensive. I that I was looking right at Gavin when I said you are old and everything, you know. But also, what's hilarious is I'm now gonna be in a new pool of Facebook neighborhood drama. Yes, you are. And you know it's catnip to me. It is catnip. So I joined this new town's uh Facebook groups, and the first post I saw was the drama that the yarn club was kicked out of the library. And the post was now that the yarn club has been banned from the library, here's what we're here's where we'll be meeting. And of course, I was like, I I broke my neck running to the comments. I was like, what happened at the library with the yarn club? I need to know this information. So I I still don't know. Evan, all I know is that they got rowdy, and so now all I have is more questions. All I have is more questions. I that didn't satisfy me at all. So I all I all I am came here to say is if you're considering a move, do it just for the new drama. Just do it for the new neighborhood drama because it is everything.

Gavin: 5:57

You know what? This catnip that you're just talking about about um uh being able to watch the Facebook group's spiral out of control, it did remind me that just today I was uh you know killing my time and uh with the brain rot of going through Instagram, and I found a really funny meme that I spent sent specifically to Jamie Grayson, our friend of the pod. And I didn't actually post on our stories, but it was just I all I could think was Jamie. And it's at one awkward mom, maybe she's my something special today, something great, um, who is hilarious. And she writes sometimes when I'm bored, I like to post a picture of my child's car seat buckled incorrectly to a face group, Facebook mom group.

David: 6:36

And have people fucking panic. Yes. Cece Kane, uh a for a former guest of ours as well, is up on the internet. And she is she is very she does a lot of like Facebook mom drama group stuff.

Gavin: 6:49

Hilarious. Yes, that's why we had her on because she is so good at just stirring that pot and sitting back with just a cigarette and popcorn. A bunch.

David: 6:57

Yes, exactly. Um, some other drama that I'm experiencing now with my move is we are having to register our kids for a new school district. And I was like, oh, I'll just fill out some paperwork, do some things, bada bing, bada boom. Uh uh for context, we are purchasing a home directly across the street from an elementary school. Wow. And so one of the things in this um city you have to do is you fill out all your paperwork and then you have to have an in-person meeting to prove your residency or whatever. And ICE isn't gonna come to the school and grab you. Correct. Um, and I called and I was like, oh, we're directly across from the school, which we're gonna be going to in the fall and we want to register. And the guy goes, That school is full, you're not going there. I said, but he said, Yeah, the school's full. You'll you'll you'll be you'll be you'll be at another elementary school across town. I said, We're moving in directly across the street. I can see the classrooms from my window. We will be going there. He's like, sorry, I don't know what to tell you, but see you at the meeting. And all I could think of was like, ah, I am a I am an unemployed, vindictive homosexual. I am not the one. I am not the one to come for because I will spend 12 hours a day, seven days a week, making your life hell until we get into that school. So I already this morning was shooting off emails and stuff. I will be showing up. I have I am so armed and prepared for this. They don't understand. Homosexuals, we have the audacity to go all the way. We have all the audacity. We have all the audacity. So um, get ready, uh, school district, because here I come. Uh, but it's like it's crazy because I'm like, I didn't realize how emotional I would feel about this. I was like, no, no, no. This is where he's gonna go. But also, if he goes to the new a different school and then in second grade, they're like, Oh, yeah, you can go to the closed school. Yeah, now he's changing school.

Gavin: 8:53

Totally screwed up. Oh my god. David, this has nothing to do with your son, and everything to do with the fact that somebody told you no.

David: 9:02

And you're like, I told you no, and I'm gay and bored. So that's a bad combination, if you ask me. Do not mix that at all. Um I yeah, really quick. Also, I forgot to tell you, my husband reminded me of uh this this morning because he likes to give me notes on the already produced podcast we've we've done. Um, how did you forget Dan Savage for Dream Guests? I was like fucking hell. I mean, I remember Dream Guests. Yeah, but he like changed my life. I would he is a gay dad. Like, he so sorry, Dan Savage. You are my number one. Anita Bryant obviously was a little bit of a joke uh choice.

Gavin: 9:41

Um, don't worry, Dan. You were you are replacing um Anita. Listen, we got our revenge on her. Um yeah. Uh okay, shout out to Dan. Can't wait to host you here, along with all of our other dream guests, who are uh notably after all of the dream guests that we've already had for the last 118 episodes. 118, dude. I mean I know eventually we can stop admiring the amount of time we've spent here staring at each other in Zooms and not in person, but hey, 118.

David: 10:16

I I honestly like it baffles me that we have stuck with this and the amount of work that it takes to make this happen. But also, like uh I it baffles me, and I'm honored by the listener who has stuck with us for 119 episodes and who still want more of us just talking at you. Thank you, listener, talking about Gavin all the time and his his issues. So, yes, thank you for sticking with us. But it is it is baffling, like 119 produced hour of fucking podcasts is a lot.

SPEAKER_00: 10:45

Yeah.

Gavin: 10:45

Oh, you say sorry, uh content, yes, not nonsense.

SPEAKER_00: 10:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Gavin: 10:49

Um well, taking it back, old school, because we're allowed to do that at a um episode 118. Uh, when was the last time we had a what would you do? Well, have I got one for you? Ooh. So last week my daughter was away at a um volleyball camp, right? She just played volleyball all week long, complained about it incessantly for three days, had a night off. That was weird. Uh, if you came in from out of state, you could just pay an extra hundred bucks to have your daughter stay there with uh, I don't know, no supervision. But because we were only an hour away, we went and got her. She had a night off, and then she went back and she it was it was actually kind of convenient, and she didn't complain for the rest of the time. Anyway, she seems to have had a great time. The last day when we were going to meet her, uh, we got to go and like watch them play volleyball for the last hour. So I we were all stoked about it, and my son was not terribly stoked about it, but he was certainly going along. We had to drive through uh Hartford uh to get there, and suddenly my partner was driving and he was like, Ah, navigate, I took a wrong turn, blah, blah, blah. So I have his phone in my hand, and up pops a text that says, You're just coming um alone, right? Daddy is not coming, right? I don't want him here. Which meant me. So here's the what would you do in that scenario? Because boy, did I go through all the 12 stages of grief. Oh, yes, maybe 16 stages of grief, which included fury, frustration, insecurity, self-doubt, self-loathing, self-questioning, hatred, potential infanticide, uh potential um uh uh um uh partner side, uh everything. Um but what before I tell you what I did, what would you do?

SPEAKER_03: 12:46

What would you do?

David: 12:51

Like my earphones ring when you do that. You're welcome. Um we're going through this a little bit in our house. Right now, my kids are a little bit in a fuck papa, I love daddy phase, which normally is fine because it's like you know, an hour or so, but it's been like a couple of days. And the other day, my husband was just like, um, this feels like shit. Like, because I went through it, if you remember many, many years ago when my son was like one or one and a half, it was a good three or four months where he wouldn't let me hold him, he wouldn't let me do anything. And I fucking went crazy because I was like, What did I do? Um, so what would I do? Um, I would be really hurt, yeah, and then I would try to intellectualize it and I would go, whatever. But then what I think what I would actually do is I would pull my daughter aside and I would say, What the fuck did you no, I'm kidding. I would say, Hey, I just want to make sure that I'm not doing anything that bothers you. Like I I love you and support you, but I also know that maybe I could be embarrassing. So if you don't want me to come, like let me know if I can like make this better, all while in my head saying, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, ungrateful little wretch.

Gavin: 14:02

Yes. Okay, but before, and I realize I'm throwing this on you with a without a lot of context, but you can deal. What are the context queen? You just spent six minutes setting up. I know. I that's all I do is context. I know that's all I do. Nonsense and context, but not really content. But what would you have done before you get the chance to talk to her? Do you go to the volleyball visitation? Yes.

David: 14:26

Okay. You have to go. You like the this is the part, this is like the angry dad part of me that comes. It's like you don't get to choose who comes. Yeah, but it's not this is not your who paid for it. You leave it. You're obviously spit sending a separate side text to one parent about the other. It's not like a group text that you're all in. So this is a private thing, but like we're coming, you know we're coming, that's what's gonna happen, and then we can have this private talk. No, you're not gonna like, oh, she said I she doesn't want me there. Fuck you. I pay also, I paid$10,000 for your stupid lesbian volleyball camp. Yeah. Like, I'm coming to see your performance.

Gavin: 15:00

I'm seeing this performance that I fucking paid for. Absolutely. So, yes, in my I had about 20 minutes to collect myself and be the grown-up in the room. You have to go through your stages of grief. You do, you have to pout, you have to be. 27 of them. Yes. I there was a lot of pouting. But I got out of the car and then I said to my partner, I'm like, listen, I am actually not being a pouty little shit here in this moment. I'm not going to walk into the gymnasium. I'm gonna give her the space because I don't, I wanna give her the gift of not being disappointed when I walk through the gym, which enrages me.

David: 15:40

But at the same time Well, it's kind of like how our listener feels whenever they hear your voice at the top of the show. There's just this inherent vibe of disappointment that they feel.

Gavin: 15:48

So I so I said, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna go in right away. I'm gonna give it 15, 20 minutes. Maybe I'll hide on the sidelines, something like that. But I get it. I understand. This is not because she doesn't love me. This is not because, well, maybe she doesn't like me at the moment. I don't really know why this came out.

David: 16:05

That was gonna be my question. Like, what is there a particular thing you do at volleyball tournament?

Gavin: 16:09

Her night off that she was home? We had a great time together. Now, she wanted more unlimited TikTok time on her phone, and I did not give it to her, which of course made me the asshole in the scenario. And maybe that was the last thought before she said, I don't want you both here.

David: 16:23

It sounded like from the text that it was more of like a I don't want him in public at a volleyball tournament. Ergo, like he he screams too loud or like whatever where he's a little too gay, which is a problem.

Gavin: 16:34

Which is a problem. But she has definitely trained me to be completely silent. So I'm not actually, I am not, I don't know, Clark Griswold or Dumpy. What's his name? Phil Dumfey on the sidelines of a volleyball game or a soccer game or a lacrosse game. I've been trained to be completely silent. So that's fine. So I knew that anyway. Point being, what I ultimately did was I said to my partner, listen, I'm not gonna walk in in the first 15 minutes. I'm gonna walk in and I'm gonna linger on the side. Luckily, they had kind of a viewing window, which I my hurt ego stood in the back of that, so I could just spy on her, but also give her the freedom. And she looked really happy and she ran over and talked to uh my partner and her brother and and um and was fine, of course. And then, but my son was mortified on her behalf, and he came up to me and he pointed out, he said, She's right over there. She looks like she's having a good time. And I said, Oh, I know, I know, I'm watching. She looks really good. Like she's clearly improved over the week. And he said, Yeah, and I said, Listen, I'm gonna come in in 15 minutes. So I thought this is the way she knows, because ultimately I think that she would have kind of been like, held it against me that I didn't show up, right? Like what her memory will be is you weren't there, I think. So anyway, I walked in with 15 minutes left. I walked in to the gym, and I was actually pretty close to her as I entered, and she gave me a look of oh god, you like I wanted the story to end with like, I'm so glad you're here.

David: 18:04

I was sorry to such a fucking bitch about it.

Gavin: 18:06

Nope, she was so pissed. She was crestfallen. No, no, she wasn't crestfallen, she was pissed, and she gave me like the shark eyeballs look, like just devoid of any soul.

David: 18:19

How you act on a Broadway stage, just nothing behind the eyes.

Gavin: 18:22

Yeah, yeah. She was so pissed. So I slunk over with a smile on my face, with the hurt, bruised parental ego, which is what we signed up for for the next 70 years of our lives. We have to know that we disappointed our children in one way, shape, or another, right? I sit 15 minutes, she plays, she was actually quite good. She never made our conduct with me again. But um, but then here's how we end the story. Here's the end before the epilogue. Finally. Um, they were done. They wanted to take team pictures, and she ran over to me and handed me her phone to say, Hey, can you come take pictures for us? And so she did come to me. And as a member of her staff, but still, yes.

David: 19:10

You're the help, but listen, you're happy to help.

Gavin: 19:12

Listen, later that night, I did find that moment to say, hey, so I sort of intercepted a message and whatnot. And she said, Oh, that was just because I just didn't want both of you there, because um, you know, it's a super conservative area area, and um having gay dads is probably a bad thing. And I was like, hmm, okay, there's a lot, a lot to unpack there, which we can leave for a what would you do next time. A lot to unpack there. But ultimately, it's not because she hates me, so I felt good about it. Well, no, but it's embarrassed.

David: 19:49

She's embarrassed embarrassed at who you are at your most core.

Gavin: 19:52

Yeah. Our fundamental family makeup is an is um is she's ashamed of. So but Whatever.

David: 20:00

At least she likes me. I love that this this this story had a denou mal that was even more depressing than the story itself. It's like this just gets getting worse.

Gavin: 20:10

Yes. Oh, the self-loathing that we will be forever cursed to hold on our shoulders. But anyway. Anyway. So okay. Changing topics, shall we? Yeah. Finally. I have a dad hack of the week that I wish I had thought about a long time ago. Saw it on Insta by somebody whose name I didn't write down, so we'll just take credit for it. You know how everybody, everybody, especially the kids, they all get hungry around 3:30, 4 o'clock, right? Everybody gets peckish. They just all just want more snacks. I just saw this thing about a woman who said she proactively, before anybody asks, just chops up vegetables and puts them out on a platter. And I know that that's simple and stupid, but remember to do it once in a while, rather than having to say, no, don't do this, no, don't do that. No, you can't have chips, no, you can't have this, that, and the other. Just proactively put out some veggie, a veggie platter, a little, you know, crudite, if you will. And um, hey, it's good for both of us, right?

David: 21:01

I think that's a good idea because I feel like my kids eat with their eyes. They they eat with just what's in front of them. Like they, if they discover a half-eaten banana from three weeks ago, they need to eat that right away. Wow. But they would never ask for that, right? Like, so that's a good idea where you like put the healthy stuff out so they encounter it and want to have it. That's great. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Here it is. It's over here. They're like, I want the cinnamon donuts that I saw in your special. Do you have a special like daddy papa like area of the cabinet that they can't reach that you hide stuff from? Okay, we do too.

Gavin: 21:34

It's the top shelf of the fridge in behind everything. Yeah. That's where the Reese's peanut butter cups go. And um, and yeah, we absolutely have we hide, we absolutely hide stuff from our kids constantly. Love it. Yeah. Like our emotions. Yeah, totally. In an episode that we're talking about our inner shame, let's also talk about our inner attraction, shall we? Yes. I have a dilf of the week who, you know what? I don't know if he's a dad. He's definitely younger than us. So is he a daddy yet? Well, it's a dilf of the week that we can just do whatever we want, right?

David: 22:05

We can decide. Listen, this is our show. We never do things correctly here. So why don't we we could decide a dilf of the week is a single woman.

Gavin: 22:11

Like we can do whatever we want. I love that idea. Okay. Well, shoot. Should I change it? That's for next week. We'll have a woman as our dilf of the week. But this week, um, I want to talk about the guy who I have such a crush on, and that is James Talarico. Have you heard of him? I only Googled him because I saw it on the sheet.

David: 22:27

He's a little twinkie and young for me. Okay. I like my men to have to know what 9-11 is. I want my men to have experienced 9-11.

Gavin: 22:41

He was born, I think, in 1989. So you're right. He he vaguely would know what 9-11 is. Is he really 89? That's it. 35. He's 35. He's 36 years old. Yeah. He does look very baby-ish. Right. He looks 17. Do you know why? Probably. Because as much as they're searching is, it doesn't seem like he's a parent. Oh, that's why.

David: 22:58

That's why. That's exactly why. It's all the college and all the hope is alive in his skin.

Gavin: 23:03

The hope is in his soul. But listen, so we're breaking all the rules with James Talarico. But I think that you, you're for you, a dilf of the week is just plain based on attraction because you're a superficial piece of shit, right? Correct. But I'm an overintellectualizing, politically focused guy. And I love that this guy's changing the world. And so he's my dilf of the week. And so James Talarico is one of those Texas Democratic representatives who's fled the state. And he's making speeches all over the place and he's doing a sensational job. And he and apparently making him even more attractive, weirdly, hate fucking. He's also a conservative Christian pastor. Not Baptist. Not Baptist.

David: 23:43

He's Presbyterian, so maybe that's what makes him a lot of people. I'm removing him from our outline.

Gavin: 23:48

But he does, he does a great speech about saying, listen, we're we are the message. Okay, maybe like one of the few messages that I've also actually paid attention to is him talking about we're focusing on the wrong one percent, the billionaires, right? But um trans people are only one percent of the population, Muslims are only one percent of the population. Uh he has another example of being only one percent of the population, but the point is we're focusing on the one wrong one percent, and the only one percent that's screwing everything up for us is the billionaires, yeah, the billionaire class. So my devil of the week is yeah, yeah. So my devil of the week is James Telarico. I never thought it would be a Christian, conservative Texan twink. But hey, maybe he has something that he has not yet shared with the entire world because hey, cute, 36, yeah, looking very opinionated.

David: 24:33

You know what we should not share with the rest of the world? Do tell our top three list. Gatriarchs, top three list, three, two, one. So this is my list um, as inspired by my son who peed in the garage last week for no reason. And I thought, you know, we are both men with penises, and um, I was curious. I was like, what are your top three favorite places to pee? Um, all right, so for me, I was and I'm also gonna just like in general, like outdoors, right? Like, that's not gonna be one of the things, but like outdoor, it feels good to be as a as a grown-up. All right, yeah. So and number three, this is this is this is really fun. Peeing on an anthill and seeing the chaos ensue. Like it's just something so satisfying about destroying people's homes within anti-genocide.

Gavin: 25:20

And by anti, I mean ANT hyphen Y. Wow, okay. Yeah, I had not thought of that. I love it.

David: 25:27

Um, number two, pissing in the wind with the wind. Yeah, so you watch it like take your pee and shoot it out over the cliff or whatever it is. Obviously, pissing into the wind the other way is not a great way to pee. Yeah. Um, and number one for me, this is so nuanced, but I hope you get this the satisfaction of it. You know how in urinals they have like those little plastic, like like gutter guard things that go at the bottom, and sometimes they're like fuzzy with like long pieces where it's like a it looks like a thick pissing into those, there's something so deeply satisfying. Like there's like no splashback. It just like it just gets disappears behind this like fuzzy urinal cake thing. Yeah, and I'm suddenly regretting this top three list. What about you, Gaben? What are your top three favorite places to pee?

Gavin: 26:20

Well, I am prepared with this, by the way, but you put so much more creative thought into it than I do. But I went with my instinctual thoughts are um number three, I love an airplane pee. I love being able to like get up in instant satisfaction. It's kind of a weird situation that you're in a teeny tiny closet. There's people eating, weird.

David: 26:40

It's also like sometimes there's a challenge because there's rocking and yeah.

Gavin: 26:44

Some with the challenge if you do have um uh you know any kind of turbulence, and sometimes I have to like lean my head against the ceiling to stabilize and whatnot. And um, I don't know, I think it's the challenge of it all. Okay, I'm always like, ooh, I'm gonna go pee in a plane. So that's kind of fun. But then keeping on the transportation side, I love peeing off boats. Yeah. That's quite into a large body of water. Into a large body of water. Now, side note, do you know that the number one reason for drowning in the fisherman industry is fishermen who are found with their flies down because they are peeing and fall over. Yeah, so I believe it. Yeah. So it's you're taking your life into your hands. And you're taking your life into your hands by peeing off a boat, you know. Number one, I I don't think you can take the um peeing in pub uh well in public or in nature off the table because I was simply gonna say open fields, butt ass naked. Totally. Like, yeah, especially when you have nothing to hide, you're not hiding anything, and especially if like you just happen to be, frankly, completely naked. I can't say that there's uh well, yeah, y'all know what I mean.

David: 27:53

Um it's also like an ashes to ashes moment. It's like the this peak came from the earth, it's going back into the earth. All right, what's next week that you've prepared for sure?

Gavin: 28:02

So here you are complain, complain, complain about moving. I'm so stressed. I get the privilege of moving across the street from an elementary school. But I think to myself, God, what an exciting new chapter that you get to go live in a new house, right? So that makes me think if money were no object and you had no obligations, aka children, yeah. Right. Uh how would you change your the chapter of the next chapter of your life today?

David: 28:30

So my something great is um atheist uh centered. I was you know, my TikTok algorithm has me by by the neck. I mean, it is like it knows hot guys dancing with no underwear, making videos and atheism videos. It's crazy how and like people getting pranked. Like it is, it has found the core of me in a way. But anyway, Neil deGrasse Tyson, everyone knows who that is. He's our favorite um astrophysicist. He's incredible, he's the face of generation. We love him. And I saw a video of him I had never seen before, and I don't think about atheism ever. I think about like, why do people believe in God? But like I don't like think about it. But it is every once in a while a quote will hit you just so hard where you're like, you said it. You said it in a way that, like, oh my god, it feels so good. And so um, I should have saved this for uh we have a future episode with a um uh a reverend or a pastor or a whatever he's called.

Gavin: 29:23

But we can revisit it, yeah.

David: 29:24

Yeah, we can revisit it. But um uh uh this was a quote from Neil Grass Tyson I came across. God is an ever-shrinking pocket of scientific ignorance. Oh I just there's something about that. It's like this God of the gaps um kind of like uh thing that, but there's just something so beautiful about that where I was like, ah, yes, right. Like the, you know, the the people were like, oh, the the sun, God makes the sun come up every day. And then we learn what the sun actually is. And it's like, oh, okay, then that goes away. And it's like ever-shrinking pocket of scientific ignorance. What a beautiful statement for people who don't believe in a kind of organized religion to kind of like, yeah, that's that's that's what that is. And we I don't know if that's something great for everyone, but for me, it was something great that it just it touched me in a way where it was like, there it is.

Gavin: 30:06

That's what it's an it's an illuminating little bit of um insight that you will take with you forward. Yes. And into the next into the ground, but not into heaven because heaven doesn't exist. Because what about you, Gavin? You will go burning. Yes. Uh well, I will say, so this week, um, I'm solo this week because my partner is actually doing something creative. And I my something great is just that I'm really happy for him that he has um, he's a, as we may or may not know, he's a conductor and an orchestrator and a composer. And he has been employed by a small uh troop out of LA, a circus troop called Troop Vertigo, and they do circus acts around, above, and well, with orchestras, but the orchestra is the main character. So he, as the conductor, is not forgotten. Sometimes he complains like people don't even know we're there, but he gets to be front and center, and um, he got to be super creative over the last few months. And even though he has complained incessantly about how stressed he is with so much work, the fact is, how do you make an artist complain? Give them a job. And so something great is that um Todd Ellison has gotten to be super creative this week. And that makes my life greater, believe me, until he comes home and has to sleep for five days because he's worked so hard. Anyway, what is it?

David: 31:19

Is our something great on a negative not something fuck my husband we're getting to complain about? Oh my god.

Gavin: 31:26

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David: 31:34

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Gavin: 31:44

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David: 31:48

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