Micro Adventure Part 3

In this episode, Ade and Tim take a step back and look at their micro adventure with fresh eyes. A few days have passed since their night ascent of Mount Snowdon — the climb, the camp, the sunrise breakfast — and now it’s time to reflect.

They talk through what went well, what they’d do differently, and how the whole experience has settled in now that the dust has been brushed off and the tiredness has faded. From the quiet moments on the mountain to the laughter that carried them through the dark, it’s a thoughtful debrief on what adventure really means when life is busy and time is short.

There’s honesty, humour, and a bit of perspective — the kind that only comes after doing something slightly mad and then having a few days to think about it. It’s a conversation about lessons learned, memories made, and the lingering satisfaction of turning a simple idea into something unforgettable.

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SPEAKER_00 0:04

Welcome to season four of Casual Camping Podcast, your home for the best camping discussion both in and out of the field. Here are your hosts, Tim and Aid.

SPEAKER_02 0:27

Hello and welcome to this week's episode of Casual Camping Podcast. It's part three of our micro adventure. I'm Tim.

SPEAKER_03 0:36

And I'm Aid, who feels ever so much older these days.

SPEAKER_02 0:43

Are the knees hurting your head?

SPEAKER_03 0:46

I tell you what, for 24 hours they were, and then uh snapped back out of it. So it always makes me forget about actually I've got dodgy knees. But you know, I'm gonna go self-uh refer myself and get it sorted because I was like an old man coming down that flipping top bit, weren't I?

SPEAKER_02 1:07

You were like an old man coming down the top bit, you were like an old man in calipers coming down the bottom bit.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

I thought I had a good uh I I realized I had to walk in a certain way, but I I thought it was a good sort of with my poles and stuff. God, I love poles.

SPEAKER_02 1:28

You know that bit when Forrest Gump as a kid has still got his calipers on, he's walking funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:33

That was that was the bit that that was the bit I was imagining when you said calipers. I was like, please tell me that that I I then ran like no, I didn't, did I? Didn't run like nothing.

unknown 1:45

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:47

You were fine when it flattened out further down further down, but your your knee was really playing up. It's um yeah, but you know, we still bloody did it. We still actually did it in a really good time, and and you know what? We had the best adventure, and and and that's really what this episode is about. Is you know, we've done a prepping episode, we've done an episode on us actually doing it, and this is a bit of reflection really of you know how did he how did we feel it went, would we do anything else, and um and allowing us to bask in the glow of what was an awesome idea by you, and um, and we we actually put it all in into practice, and and you know, as everyone knows that's listening, we're idiots.

SPEAKER_03 2:33

You'll get no argument from me or anyone else, or anyone else, yeah. Um, I mean it was incredibly tough, but incredibly good fun. You know, we were taking part in something. Uh I I guess why everybody doing like marathons, half marathons, park runs and stuff, you take part, you you're doing something. Uh the fact that it was uh a weeknight, you had a day off the following day. I had a late sort of bit of business uh to go work to, but not loads of business. But it it was just we'd worked till tea time and then driven three hours to Wales. You'd bloody driven, you're a machine, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

And I don't I don't drive one of those fancy cars that does most things for itself. I drive I drive a Jeep. Yeah, it's um no, it was it was it was epic, I have to say. Uh I'm I'm I I am uh basking in the glow of sort of what's what do they call it, secondary benefit. So although it's really challenging when you're doing it after the fact you feel that that secondary buzz, and I I have I've literally had that all week, and people, people at work kind of knew that I was going to do it, and and even today someone's come up and gone, you did what on Monday night? I saw you on Monday, you were at work. I'm going, Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

But but that's the thing, isn't it? If you'd have gone home, you'd have like had some dinner, you'd have sat on the sofa, you'd have probably got a bit sleepy and gone, oh I'm going to bed at 10 o'clock. And certain, I mean, I'm I'm saying it you, but that's exactly what I would be doing, you know.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Me too, me too. Apart from I'd have probably been in bed for nine.

SPEAKER_03 4:28

And and yet, you know, we've both done a full day's work. I can't tell you how much lifting and heavy stuff that I had moved on that Monday, and still thought that actually I'm uh, you know, we're doing this, we'd we'd say, and it was just like, hey, you uh you get the energy from somewhere, don't you?

SPEAKER_02 4:50

That was the weird thing, wasn't it? Because it was you know, you you because it's so different, what we did was so different from our day jobs, you know, using a different set of muscles or whatever or whatever else, but it was just mentally so different from from what we'd done. There was a whole load of energy that was still there that we hadn't tapped into, and and what's interesting is that's probably there every night. Uh but like you say, you come home and you just kind of get that routine, whereas you could actually get a new routine and do something different on an evening and you would you would have the energy for it. It's that's what it's taught me.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

Yeah, I think that that is the thing. Actually, if you are going and doing something, change your routine. Uh, we're not gonna do that every uh day, but it does make you go, hey, and the excitement of it carried us through. We didn't we didn't summit until two o'clock.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

I know that's uh that's the longest I've gone. Sorry, sorry. So I've heard she's not listening. She's not listening, but she's joking, obviously.

SPEAKER_03 6:13

Oh my god, you're gonna be in so much trouble if she listens to this one.

SPEAKER_02 6:18

I know, I know, I know. We are actually driving to Cornwall in a couple of days' time, and uh uh I did say, or I haven't listened to to the last week's episode yet of us going up, and I wanted to listen to it, so we might end up listening to these bat tobacco must have, oh, you don't need to listen to the next one. No, no, no, it's fine.

SPEAKER_03 6:40

I I think uh like Mrs. Sweep, she uh every now and again just sort of clocks in on it. Her sister does that, she was like, Oh, every now and again, like five to six weeks and stuff. Lily, do you listen? She was like, No, not really. She said I I get sort of like the second, like secondary smoking kind of thing. She said, I can hear them giggling away in another room, like she said it's enough. It sounded like it was funny.

SPEAKER_02 7:14

Oh funny, that is funny. Oh god. So um so what do you think what do you think works really well? You know, did you do you think you took the right stuff, the right equipment? What what works well for you?

SPEAKER_03 7:30

Well, uh, I mean, what worked incredibly well for me is I took Tim and he carried an extra amount of stuff on his back. I mean, I just turned up with a pan, some sausages, two litres of water, a sleeping bag that I didn't bloody use, and a and a mat. So yeah, if if you're doing this, take a Tim, is my advice. Because my pack was half the size of yours, and I was like, Yeah, you must have something else in there, other than the tent. You took all of the tent. I know you did.

SPEAKER_02 8:08

Oh god, yeah. I am available to be rented out.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

Tuppens. Sure, put him. He ain't taking no washing machine on his back.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

No, there was not a washing machine. I didn't have a lot more than you. I um, you know, I I had the tent, but uh, the tent wasn't wasn't heavy. You know, it's not a heavy tent, isn't, isn't the Nexus Nexus 2. Um it's uh and and you know, I had a little tiny sleeping bag that again I didn't use, but it didn't weigh a lot. I I had waterproofs, but I left the trousers, I kept the jacket, left the waterproof trousers. I I you know I had a pan, I had a bigger pan than you had, so I suppose that was a bit of wet, but not a lot. I had the stove.

SPEAKER_03 9:00

Um yeah, I had the gas, so you know, we did sort of share that. So um, yeah, I I think um it all went incredibly well, and I I felt very much like I was fast and light. I had a four-season sleeping bag because I didn't know what it was going to be like at the top, but it's such a heat wave here in the UK that it was warm going up. Um we had to drink, we probably should have had more than two litres of water. Um I uh ran out.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

So I I didn't, which is always a sign that I should have been drinking more. So um so actually when I got home, there was probably about 300 mils left in my in my um in my two-litre bladder. So um so I I didn't I didn't drink enough is probably what but you you know we used your water to make the coffees on the top. You know, so you know we um swings and roundabouts, I suppose.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

We probably ended up drinking the same amount of water, but um but yeah, and and I I think certainly I th I think one good company going up, we were quite evenly matched. Yeah. I've been with people that go up like a bloody gazelle, and I I was like, uh, and every time I get to them after they've rested, they then sprint off because they've had their rest, and I'm like, oh, do I carry on or do I just sit here and get further and further back?

SPEAKER_02 10:33

I hate that.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

Um so so yeah, I I would say there's a little bit of a lesson. Make sure that you're in sync with whoever's going up and that you know they might need to um you know compensate it for whoever's the weaker one to just have a little bit of an extra rest and and go on. Um you were saying to me uh at one stage that oh, you know, you're fitter than me and stuff, and then you know, when we got towards the top, you were better than me on the steeper bit. So that was I think I think we were quite evenly matched.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

I I think we were evenly matched, and and and that's you know, it's it's important to rem to remind whoever you were doing something like this with that it's not a race. The the the thing itself is the challenge. You don't need an extra added challenge of let's do it really quick, you know. It's it's it's alright to actually enjoy the journey. And and we did stop a lot of times to record videos, to record some audio. Um, we didn't want to wait too long doing that because we did want to get up there with enough time to try and have some sleep, but um yeah, we it wasn't a race, was it? We we we just took it steady and and yeah, and considering we got there when it was dark.

SPEAKER_03 11:52

I mean, I think when we were walking down the first street, there was still a bit of light, but it was starting to come in, and we got a good third, maybe half of the way up without actually using our lights.

SPEAKER_02 12:06

Yeah, yeah, we did really, really well with that. Because the um because the moon, although it was a half moon, it was so bright, it was casting moon shadows, which was amazing. But then once that once that started to dip down to the um the horizon, that was the point that really there was no light then, and we had to put the head torches on. But um that that lead lenser that I was wearing was just blooming epic. It was like some you know, blooming arc light, you know, searchlight from World War II. It's um I literally I could have picked out bombers and shot them out of the sky with that thing.

SPEAKER_03 12:42

Well, the guys at the top were going, Were you that guy with the light on your head?

SPEAKER_02 12:47

I felt so cool. I felt so cool when they said that. That's a real powerful light you've got on there. I was like, Yeah, that's the lead lenser. I said, It's amazing, it's auto. I was a proper, I was a proper head torch bore for like two minutes.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Yeah, and uh I have a lead lenser. Um, guess what Adrian forgot? Yeah, it it was on my kitchen countertop, and I know what I'd done. I saw something else and went, Oh, but I put my torch down to pick that up, and then just yeah, it happens, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 13:24

I the amount of trips I've been on and thing particularly electrical stuff. I come back and they're still plugged in in the kitchen charging up from where I've been charging them from the night before I went. It's um it happens all the time. Thankfully, we'd both been quite sensible actually and done a bit of redundancy. So I I had an extra torch on me. I had the um the O-Light Perrin 2, and you brought another head torch, so we weren't actually, you know, because when it got really dark, you did really need a head torch to to keep going.

SPEAKER_03 14:00

Really did, um, but I had a very basic one, um, and I used the lowest power, which just gave enough, but to be honest, I think I kind of uh was on your coattails with the lead lenser, it lit the way for both of us, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

I was I was purposely doing that for a lot of the way because we were literally side by side for most of it, and um, and I and I was lighting forwards to both of us because it was um it was really powerful. I did have it on the maximum settings, and um, and that gave us about a couple of hours of it, of it's all singing, all dancing. Um, and then it's when we were literally when we were on the top, it just kind of went, yeah, I'm I'm starting to drain a little bit, and it does this automatic thing where it just it doesn't you don't lose it, it just dials itself down to go, you still need some light, so I'm just gonna dial down some of these settings, and uh which was great, and uh and still easy enough lights.

SPEAKER_03 14:58

It really was and and yet, you know, if you'd have put that on the lower setting, which would have still been an incredible light, yeah. Uh, because there's I think three or four settings there too, isn't there? Yeah, um, but yeah, no, I felt glad that you had yours. I'd put mine on this very uh other one, and I did have something that I'd got from the barter barn, uh, the O-light uh uh little thing, but I didn't need to use that, nothing ran out.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

Yeah, I didn't I didn't use need to use the O-Light Perrin that I uh that I I had um clipped onto my um my bag straps. It's um the bag straps did you know that that big north face, it is a great bag, um, but I you know having having the pacemaker, I was warned when I had it in, I had a conversation with him, and they did say I talked about being outdoorsy and carrying loads of stuff, and they did say, that's really not advised, we don't really want you doing that. And this is the second time I've done that with a big bag um in Scotland. Uh I I had more stuff in it, and and it it was actually really uncomfortable because the strap is pressing massively right where it shouldn't, and uh, and that was quite uncomfortable. I have to say, by the time I'd got back to the car, um, it was quite uncomfortable again, although I'd gone much further, I'd done really well. I um I I think I need to come up with if I'm gonna do this again, I need to come up with some kind of padding, some kind of extra pad to go underneath that because it's um it's uh it's been a bit sore for the rest of the week, to be honest. I uh need to be I need to be a bit careful with that. A dare pack's alright, but something a bit heavier uh with a load of stuff in it, is uh it's just gonna be a bit of a problem, I think, for the future.

SPEAKER_03 16:46

Yeah, yeah. Um yeah, well, yeah, I'm sorry about that. I did uh offer to take your pack and you could have had mine, but yeah, no.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

I'm not I honestly I'm not I'm not saying it for that reason. It's it's learning, so you know, yeah, you know, we're reflecting on what worked well and what we might change. I know if I'm I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna do these things again because they're they're too bloody great to do, and I'm not gonna stop doing them. It's part of who we are, but I I'm gonna adapt my equipment so that I can still do it because um you know it's uh it's just it was just brilliant, absolutely brilliant from start to finish.

SPEAKER_03 17:25

It w it was amazing. I think the other thing that is an absolute godsend, uh polls. Yes. And I don't know whether everybody uses poles, nobody uses them. Uh I always remember my mates uh who were bang into climbing, ones in the army, uh Marza, Marza, and uh him and uh mate Richie were out climbing somewhere, and uh somebody was like, Oh, you've got poles. He was like, Yeah, no, they're supposed to be good. He was like, We've never seen anybody as young as you wearing uh using them. And they they got like really like oh okay, so just for old people, like and and I know for like Scandinavia and a lot of uh Norwegian places and those swear by them, uh, and lots of other places, uh but we saw talk, didn't we? And uh I think from Harrier poles, yeah, and they were saying how much energy that you can disperse from your legs by using poles. And to be honest, the poles were an absolute godsend, not only going up but coming down as well. Certainly if you've got knees that hurt a little bit and stuff, taking some of that pressure off by getting them out there uh in front of you, and yeah, it it just I I noticed.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

I don't know if you clocked, so when we're coming down, there's obviously there's the start of the wave of people going up. Um, and we're coming down in the morning. We we left the summit about half five and bumped it. You know, there was a lot of people coming up, and and a lot of younger people, there weren't a lot of sort of people even our age, and most of them had poles. There were an awful lot of them that were using poles, and it's it isn't that thing anymore, like you say of oh, it's poles for older people who've got bad joints. Um it you know, people have realized it's actually a really economical way to use your energy and uh and to use your body, and and it was great. We I think we'd have really struggled to get up, to be honest, in in the you know, just less than three hours that we did. If we hadn't had polls, it could have been a lot longer.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

Yeah, and uh I mean we did what was the route that we did, Lamberis.

SPEAKER_02 19:47

We did the Lamberis, so we did the easiest, the allegedly easy. There are no easy paths up this. You're still climbing a mountain, but we did allegedly the easiest route, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:58

Um, and you know, the the bottom third, uh bottom two-thirds are relatively easy, and I think anybody with any kind of skill and levels of fitness could do those quite easily. Yeah, it's like a walk. It then for that last uh bit to go up to the summit, that last third was climbing a lot of the way, and at points we were only doing sort of 20 uh metres, or we were spotting a rot and going, let's go to that, and I could feel my legs and my butt cheeks kind of clamping up, kind of like stop, have a rest. And it's surprising how quickly you then go, right, let's go again, yeah. Uh, but yeah, uh amazing. I'm talking like I've done everything. I've done Snowden before, camped at the top of Snowden before, but it's still surprising me. And the thing is that I worked it out, uh, so I did the pick pig track the last time um and camped at the top and things like that. But I think I was 35. Gosh, it was like 25 years ago, 20 years ago, you know. Wow, bloody hell, bloody hell.

SPEAKER_02 21:13

So that one man tent I've got is over 20 years old.

SPEAKER_03 21:17

Yeah, yeah. I'll see if I can I've got some pictures of uh not the camping, but me on a little precipice, kind of looking over a precipice of uh me stood on a rock, kind of thing. So that's cool. We'll put it on the socials this week. Um little little young baby aid.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

Oh no, that's cool. That is cool. No, we um we did a cracking job. I I don't think I equipment wise would leave anything out. You know, we talked in the car, didn't we, coming back about whether or not you should or shouldn't take a sleeping bag, even if it's warm. And it does just kind of feel wrong, doesn't it, to not take sleeping bag.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

something like that so so I think it's the right it's the right decision to take it um even though you're probably carrying some weight that you might not need but um I wouldn't have wanted to leave it out no uh which is why I I was quite happy with taking uh the force 10 for season that I had it was the only one uh that I'd got I didn't want to take the snow peak down one I thought that would be heavy and too too much so it's a mixture of synthetic and down is the force it has baffles on on certain bits um but the uh I I really like the fact that it was there if I'd have got into trouble with these knees I'd have been okay if you'd have needed to go get help whereas you know you never know what the summit is like and it was such a calm evening all the way up and when we got to the summit it was breezy but it wasn't windy was it and then when we set the tent up it was windy.

SPEAKER_02 23:19

Yeah yeah it was alright when we got there and we went right up to the to the trig point the the point right on top and uh said hello to those guys who were just sitting there in sleeping bags and um and then we climbed down those few steps to the to the the main sort of summit plateau and uh and suddenly at that point it just went windy as anything.

SPEAKER_03 23:40

It was like okay now we've got to put we found a a a very nice flat bit uh and just went with that and I I think we should have just looked around a little bit more because there was a wall further down near where the cafe is and we could have there the there was a flat bit down there and if we'd have camped there we wouldn't have been woken up by the wind for what seemed like most of the two hours that we were sleeping.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

Yeah yeah that and that's probably one change we would have made is maybe scouted round a bit more but we were at that point we were really really tired you know we were done in I'd I'd been up for 20 hours at that point worked a 10 hour day driven for three hours climbed a hill for three hours you know it's um yeah there was the we were we were actually surprisingly very very tired when we got to the top and uh and and being it came in really quickly didn't it was just fine getting there burnt out really fast and it was just like we need to get this tent up and uh I'm so glad I practiced with it a couple of times in the garden because it just meant I knew how to put this tent up you know even in wind I could put this tent up and we could get it reasonably firm as pegged out as well as we could on rocky ground and we could just climb it.

SPEAKER_03 25:05

Yeah um let's talk about the Nexus because it was lent to us by Van Gogh so thank you very much Van Gogh check out their range of tents because they do something for the very extreme to the very big family.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

They're a UK based uh firm and they fix their stuff they've got a really good we're gonna go up and see them soon uh and hand the tents back boo we hate we yeah we hate giving kit back but we will give kit back yeah these are um these are loan pieces so we're we're very very grateful for that but the um their force 10 range is um is kind of their extreme stuff isn't it it's their mountaineering stuff and and this is um so this is the force 10 Nexus 2 which had a hell of a lot of space in it inside didn't it really did yeah really really did i i was really surprised that so I was on my mat which is just a 50 centimetre wide mat it's not very thick it's about one or two inches uh I didn't get any cold from the ground which was great but I remember kind of thinking oh there won't be much space in here um so I can't turn over or I can't I'm a side sleeper normally and stuff and I thought oh the last thing you want me doing is spoon in you I nearly took this at one point and and I thought the same thing I thought I'll just turn back the other way back to back um but I was surprised at how far away you were you know not taking so in lows but there was enough room to move about and manoeuvre myself without bumping into you uh so brilliant and there was a lot of head height there um you know we were in and out of that in two two and a half hours yeah it had got flappy and windy and uh you know I wish we'd been able to peg it out a little bit better because it was noisy by then yeah and and putting it out in the garden and pegging it out properly it does not flap in the slightest so that the flappiness was totally the fact that being on such rocky ground meant we couldn't quite get the anchor points where they really needed to be so it was it was a little bit flappy but um you know we were we were camping protection for us totally and that that's really why I I would normally if I'm going into the high country like that I will normally take an emergency shelter and some emergency stuff and I didn't bring the emergency shelter because I thought well we've already got a shelter um you know I didn't bring my orange two man Bivvy um I um which would have been even more weight on my back I uh I thought well we've got the Nexus too which is amazing so if one of us did get an injury wherever we were on the hill we could have just put that up put the put one of us in it and um and gone and got help or waited for help to come so um yeah yeah yeah it is it is an amazing emergency shelter as well so it was it was a cracking piece of kit yeah no I think I think that's um and it was so light um you know the the fabric on it it's a good looking tent as well you know I I'm all about how things look and that was a blooming good uh thing that was the first time I'd seen it when you pitched it so glad you pitched it because I like I wouldn't have known I'd be like yeah just roll me in and I'll stop it blowing away the guys that were up on the point right at the summit they were just sleeping in sleeping bags on the floor around that point and I I'm sure that they were fine they said that they might have got a bit of sleep but not very much we saw people following us up they'd clocked your torch and kept on looking about where we were so for ages they were the only ones up there and then in the morning when we got out of our tent there was about 20 people.

SPEAKER_03 29:18

Yeah yeah it's um it's mad wasn't it really it'd gone from the three of those guys and us two and uh and and there was about 20 people there who were all coming up for the the sunrise which um you know we got a cloud inversion which is amazing uh my first cloud inversion and and we we made um we had the jet boil mighty mo and uh and the jet boil skillet and we we made sausages we fried off some sausages some veggie sausages and um and made sausage sandwiches we made some fresh coffee and we just sat there then a really beautiful we just sat there and watched the sun come up um through the clouds and it was just you know it it was lovely amazing yeah um I think uh unzipping the tent and peeking out and seeing that there were some clouds just scooping over the path that we'd walked over as they just go up I was like oh my god you forget that you're at the top of a mountain and then yeah and then we went and literally just cooked sausages I think we were the envy of everybody there is absolutely we were the envy because there were people who were just making it up there and they were like literally just kind of a bit a bit shattered and where they're going morning just making some yeah I honestly I was like should we go do sausages I said it rather loudly I think should we just go do some sausage sandwiches and have some coffee I was like F you people F you oh god no it's um that would that was really great the uh the equipment works really great great for that and um it's just it's just brilliant from start to finish I uh I wouldn't I wouldn't change it you know there's little tweaks I'd make with like the pack and things like that but I honestly don't think I'd change anything of it.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

I uh you know I I I thought I'd be saying oh you know I wasn't fit enough and everything and yeah we can all always be fitter but actually I'm glad that we were we're at the same fitness level so that it wasn't it wasn't obvious that one of us was fitter than the other and because you always then worry am I holding somebody back you know we yeah it was just it was just a great no stress adventure we we we just had a really nice time and just chatted the the whole way up and I think the biggest stress was paying for the parking and where are we parking? God was it ever was it ever I mean we didn't do the other car park because it was 35 pounds so we you know we went to to Lamberis to the car park and and we did drive round the housing estate but to be honest there were lots of signs up saying residence only and I just thought if I park there you're just gonna get your tire punctured or something like that. So you don't you don't want to annoy the locals that's the thing you don't want to annoy them.

SPEAKER_03 32:31

Yeah and and nobody's saying anybody in would do that but you know so we paid for parking and but it that was 25 quid and when once we settled on the fact that you know what let's just pay it and go.

SPEAKER_02 32:49

Yeah and that then then it it was fine the journey yeah and and actually between between you paying for that and you buying um the McDonald's on the way for for tea and me covering the petrol it kind of balanced itself out anyway so it was you know you know because we'd driven so far it was going to cost a load of fuel anyway to get there.

SPEAKER_03 33:11

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so kind of all it all works out in the end and it all it all comes cleaning wash it does uh so yeah for me I think you know that's definitely a thing you know I think that's good that you said it isn't a race you know you're not trying to beat somebody else up there you are going together we saw shooting star we saw the stars come out we could still see the outlines of the other mountains around us and just trying to go oh where where's that route you could see the path going up and I think that's the the good bit about Lamberis is you can quite you're not gonna go wrong on that yeah at all yeah you really need torches or no you know I think that last third you really need a touch but we could have probably done the rest of it you know you'd trip a a little bit when it got really dark but if there's a good moon and it's clear uh whatever I think you get a lot of the way up there without any torches if you needed to uh and the poles the poles were brilliant um for me it surprised me how little I really needed to take yeah um the mine was a 25 litre pack it was full to brimming I should have had a bladder but I don't have one I find the go a bit funny and water tastes whatever so I just took some water bottles in the side pockets of them um and it was enough and I you know okay I didn't use my uh sleeping bag I could have done with a uh smaller sleeping bag I think uh but you know it's um everything fitted in that and I think that's the biggest surprise to me as well as the fact that I made it up and down and we did it in a reasonable time uh but it was it was just excellent loved it loved it loved it yeah me too I'm so glad I did it with you as well yeah yeah I'm so glad we did it together two brothers nobody else along um not that you know we don't want other people with us but actually sometimes it's just nice to go and do stuff just for you and I and uh and it's been a tough old year so it's it's been nice to go and do something like that and just um you know it'd be a real triumph and a real positive thing and it was really it was really cool it was really cool yeah the the only bit I didn't like was the coming down because my knee knee was primarily one knee more than other than the other but that top third was quite agony um and then once I got beyond that then I found a good sort of cadence in my walking and the poles helped and stuff and I enjoyed it a little bit more I was shot by the end really really really shot and I got to the path so we were on to road and and I think the last 400 metres you went and got the car and came back for me. Yeah I was done but I think that was more water and energy as well as knees and whatever.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

And I think you'd have made it but I said you're gonna sit there and I'm gonna go get the car and uh and I uh I just I just went down the road back to the car park and then came back up and uh and uh and you jumped in and we we uh we disappeared on our on our trip home which uh took another three hours yeah but what what time were you home?

SPEAKER_03 36:49

I can't remember well I I got home at half twelve so I think uh we must have got to yours at half eleven wow yeah because you didn't come in you just got straight in your in your your thumbs and just that's a 12 hour adventure Tim Wow well actually no okay so we set off at seven from yours though yeah still pretty I have to say that's pretty epic it's um sixteen hour adventure sixteen hour adventure yeah it's not bad is it's that's not bad at all I um we should be proper proud proud of that I uh I think I think that's amazing probably a good time to um slide into that minute mindfulness welcome to the casual camping minute mindfulness let the sounds of nature take you back to the camping field great and that's that's there to inspire you if you're listening to this to just go and have your own mini adventure and I know this one wasn't quite so mini as we'd originally planned you know you talked about it about being going going to your nearest hill or your highest hill in your in your your area we went a bit further you don't have to go a bit further you know our our highest hill round here are the molvans and uh and we have already said well we're gonna do this again but we're gonna go to the molvans and we're gonna we're gonna you know try and do something over that way but um we go go up onto British camp maybe we'll take a little bit of fire and you know we want uh I I got flashbacks to your journey with the police turning up and stuff there's a little dip at uh British camp and stuff um it yeah just absolutely amazing I'm so pleased you can do it too uh like always you will see pictures that reflect what we're talking about so like share follow along we're on Facebook we're on Instagram and we might have a longer video of this going up on YouTube later this week so thanks for listening guys and uh yeah I've been Aid and I've been Tim thanks a lot we'll uh we'll speak to you next week