I Took a Hike

Coraline Mass - Wise Beyond 'Four' Years

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Ever wondered what goes on in a four-year-old's mind during a hiking trip? Join me, Darren Mass, as I venture into the great outdoors with my charming and inquisitive daughter, Coraline. From her anticipation of spotting horses and birds to her sheer delight in finding horse poop, you're in for a laughter-filled journey. Listen as Coraline weighs in on forest rangers' roles, the importance of not littering, and her brave crossing of a stream. Plus, don't miss her cute attempt to hug a bunny!

Join us as we meander through nature, using all our senses to paint a vivid picture. In the second part of our adventure, Coraline and I engage our senses to perceive the forest's beauty. We talk about trees, plants, bugs and more, relishing the freshness of nature. We discuss identifying various plants and animals, even touch upon recognizing poison ivy. Through Coraline's eyes, we highlight the importance of appreciating nature and all its wonders. With my daughter's enthusiasm and unique perspective, we take a deep, refreshing breath of wilderness as we delve into the joy and wonder of being in nature.

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A Hiking Adventure With Coraline Mass

Darren

All right, Coraline Mass, are you okay with being recorded on a podcast?

Coraline

Yes.

Darren

Well, there goes that liability. This is I Took a Hike. I'm your host, darren Mass, founder of Business Therapy Group and Parktime Wilderness Philosopher. Here we step out of the boardrooms and home offices and into the great outdoors, where the hustle of entrepreneurship meets the rustle of nature. In this bonus episode, we follow along the inspirational trail of my four-year-old daughter, coraline Mass. Our topics include little leg motivation, counting the ABCs of life using our senses, and leaves, lots of leaves. I'm a very proud dad when I took a hike with Coraline Mass. Is this your first hike? Yes, yeah. What are you looking most forward to on a hike?

Coraline

I don't know.

Darren

You don't know. Well, what do you think you're going to find on a hike?

Coraline

Horses.

Darren

You're going to find horses and birds and birds.

Coraline

Can I see one right now?

Darren

You see a bird. What kind of bird is it?

Coraline

I don't know A robin.

Darren

A robin. That's a cool bird. So, coraline, how old are you? Four, four, do you like being four? Yeah, what do you like about being four?

Coraline

My sister treats me nicely.

Darren

Your sister treats you nicely when you're four. Yeah, yeah, what else do you like about being four?

Coraline

Because you give me candy.

Darren

I give you candy. What kind of candy do I give you?

Coraline

You give me chocolate.

Darren

Oh, I do. What's your favorite chocolate?

Coraline

Chocolate with vanilla in it.

Darren

Chocolate with vanilla in it. Yes, I don't know which chocolate this is.

Coraline

It's caramel.

Darren

It's caramel. Okay, so I give you chocolate vanilla caramel in a bar or in a little kiss.

Coraline

In a little kiss.

Darren

Ah, okay, I have found that. You know what I see on this trail over here, over here. Do you see that pile over there? Do you know what that is? No, take a guess.

Coraline

Pineapple.

Darren

Nope.

Coraline

Poop.

Darren

Poop, that's horse poop. Yep, I guess we might see some horsies after all. Are you excited to see the deserted village?

Coraline

Yeah, is that what a horse needs poop like.

Darren

Yes, big blobs.

Coraline

Big, big blobs.

Darren

Is that funny to you?

Coraline

Yes.

Darren

Yeah, what's the funniest word you know?

Coraline

It has big blobs and poop down in the tail.

Darren

Yeah, what's the funniest word you know?

Coraline

A cow poop.

Darren

Cow poop. Yeah, okay, those are two words, though.

Coraline

How do cow poop poop?

Darren

They just lift their tail and go plop Like horsies yeah, like horsies and doggies and everyone else. They have a house here, yeah, there's a house here, yeah, and we're going to come up across a deserted village.

Coraline

Where.

Darren

It's coming, you'll see it. So what other animals do you think you're going to see on this hike? Bunnies, bunnies. You think bunnies are going to be in the forest?

Coraline

I think so.

Darren

Okay, are you going to try to hug a bunny? Yeah, okay, do you hear the birdies?

Coraline

Sure.

Darren

Yeah.

Coraline

What's this? Is that a hole?

Darren

That is. I think that's the ranger station.

Coraline

What is a ranger station?

Darren

That's where the ranger lives.

Coraline

What's a ranger?

Darren

The person who helps maintain and clean up the park. He's like the forest police officer.

Coraline

Oh, is he the one who cleans up?

Darren

Yes, well, maybe Sometimes we all have to clean up.

Coraline

What do they do?

Darren

Well, they walk around and make sure that the park is safe for everybody. Oh is that another way to do one.

Coraline

Yes, oh, and we all have to do our part.

Darren

Why do they have so many rooms? Hey, we all have to do our part. When you see litter, we got to pick it up and throw it out, right?

Coraline

Why is it so many? Why is there so many rooms?

Darren

Because there is.

Coraline

Maybe it's a appointment. Yeah, all right. Wait, what if a person goes in there? What is an ranger? What if they go in?

Darren

Maybe the ranger will make them some tea.

Coraline

Wow, that's a big house it is. It's a ranger's house.

Darren

It is. Are those little?

Coraline

Do they, do they sleep there? No, they when did they sleep then?

Darren

They probably go home to their house.

Coraline

What if we walk down there?

Darren

Well, you're not going to because that's a big stream bed.

Coraline

What.

Darren

Yeah, that stream comes down there. You see how it pushed all of those big rocks. When it rains, this fills up with water. You don't want to be caught in there when it fills up.

Coraline

What if it didn't fill up and I fell in here.

Darren

Well, I'm not going to let you fall in, but if you did, I would come and save you.

Coraline

Maybe you get a rope.

Darren

I don't need a rope, I would climb down. So, coraline, let's talk about.

Coraline

What if I go right there?

Darren

Let's talk about.

Coraline

What if I fall right there?

Darren

You won't fall there. I won't let you.

Coraline

What if I fall right there? If I fall right there, I can easily get back up.

Darren

Well, you'd also have to fall while holding my hand, and I don't think I'm gonna let you go. So, core line, let's talk about success. Do you think you're successful at four years old? Yeah, yeah. Why do you think you're so successful? No, that's just a person. Oh, why do you think you're so successful?

Coraline

I don't know.

Darren

Okay, well, are you good at school? Yeah, are you happy? Yeah, yeah. Why are you so happy? What makes you so happy? Because we have dogs. No, we're gonna go down this way. So what about the dogs makes you the most happy? They lick you. Well, that would make me happy too, yeah, so what are some of the things you do at four years old that makes you really, really proud?

Coraline

We like to move the cross. We just have to a tiny, tiny bit of water a tiny bit of water.

Darren

So what do you do?

Coraline

We move cross, daddy, I know where the water is coming from. That yeah, it's gonna go down and down and down and down.

Darren

Do you want an adventure and try to cross that stream over there?

Coraline

Yeah, all right, let's do it because it's rocks and we can cross it.

Darren

That's right.

Coraline

Can you, can you carry me across it one, two, three.

Darren

No, you got to do this on your own. You need a carry across this any big jumps, I'll carry across, but you have to learn to do this on your own with those little tiny legs. Hey, what? Yeah, all right. So what do you see here? Water, water where the rocks Right there. Okay, now how do you think we should go across it?

Coraline

on the rocks.

Darren

How about? One foot in front of the next? Okay, but you make sure that you feel first with your foot to make sure the rock isn't too wobbly so you don't fall in. Okay, so here's your first step. Go, good job. You go. One after the next, all right. Step on the big rocks. It's wobbly Okay good job, one foot in front of the next. Wait, pause here. Navigate your path Ready, next path go. You think you can make the rest.

Coraline

Daddy no.

Darren

Okay, I got you.

Coraline

What is that?

Darren

Hmm, is this a stick?

Coraline

No, that's off I.

Darren

Don't know You're going, you're doing it, doing it. Go all the way to the edge. Go all the way to the edge, you can do it. No, I can't get the water right there. You can jump over it. There you go, ready, go, big jump. You did it. How do you feel? Good? Good, all right, we're going uphill this way.

Coraline

I didn't even get water on me.

Darren

No, that's because you navigated your path. Did you feel like you have a sense of accomplishment? No, no, why not?

Coraline

I feel a little scared at first, but now I know you felt scared at first, but now you don't. But Now that I like the past, that I didn't, I feel to say a little bit. And then I then, when I got to the Etter and I didn't have to say okay, but now do you feel like you could do that again?

Darren

Yeah, so you feel like it was accomplishing Mm-hmm. So you did something really special. I want to do it again. We will do that over there. We well, we have to go back there, so we'll do it again.

Coraline

Yeah, I, let me go here, go, go back back home right now.

Darren

No, we have a big hike to do. We have miles and miles of hiking.

Coraline

Yeah, it was a mile mile. What if I get tired?

Darren

Then we could take a break, or we can try to figure out a way back. That's quicker.

Coraline

Or we can get in the car and go back home.

Darren

Well, you have to hike back to your car. Remember, when you hike in you have to hike back. So if you're tired when you get to your destination, you're only going to be more tired on the way back. They have to reserve some energy.

Coraline

Okay, I'm getting energy about it.

Darren

You're getting energy. It's a good thing we brought bug spray, huh.

Coraline

Yeah, what if we didn't?

Darren

Well then, all these bugs would be biting us.

Coraline

Even the mosquitoes.

Darren

Yeah, we don't like the mosquitoes.

Coraline

That's why did you put mosquito on. The mosquito bite on yes.

Darren

So what's your favorite subject in school?

Coraline

Playing with my friends.

Darren

Playing with your friends, you play well with them. What's your favorite game?

Coraline

Tag.

Darren

Tag who usually wins?

Coraline

I do.

Darren

You do. Why is that?

Coraline

Because I chase them.

Darren

You chase them, yeah, and you always tag them, yeah, that's cool.

Coraline

No, they chase me.

Darren

Oh.

Coraline

But they don't tag me.

Darren

Because why.

Coraline

Because they're too tired of playing that game.

Darren

They're too tired to play. Does that mean that you're bad?

Coraline

So then we play hide and seek.

Darren

Okay, do they ever find you? Yeah, and do you like? When they find you, mm-hmm. And then what happens? You have to chase them.

Coraline

Yeah.

Darren

Very nice.

Coraline

Then they hide, and then they hide and then I find them. Then they need to chase me. I don't know.

Darren

You want to go up or left Up Up, all right. This is a big climb. We're going on. Really, dig in, lean forward and use those feet. Good job.

Coraline

Why does it make steps?

Darren

It didn't make steps. Nature makes steps. These are the roots from the trees.

Coraline

Oh.

Darren

See.

Coraline

Why is that tree pokey?

Darren

Well, because it's on a slope and it's about to fall. When are you on my? On my name? Okay, we could write your name at some point.

Coraline

On a tree. If I'm sticking, you can write it yeah.

Darren

So what are you most motivated by?

Coraline

Hmm, wait, I found a sick Right here. Here Can you write my name with the sick.

Darren

Sure, how's this little dirt patch over here?

Coraline

Good.

Darren

Good, how do we spell your name? C? C.

Coraline

I don't know O.

Darren

O, c O, what else Uh?

Coraline

Hmm, I don't know.

Darren

R R A L I N E. Oh, I'm going to ask you a challenging question, ready, do you think you inspire people? Yes, yes. Why do you think you inspire people?

Coraline

Because I was a.

Darren

Because, why Because?

Coraline

I was a.

Darren

Because you're love people. Wow, that's really nice. And do you think they're inspired by you? Mm-hmm, they are. What do you think they're inspired most about? Uh?

Coraline

Because, mm, because they play with me Butterfly, because?

Darren

they play with you Butterfly. That's a perfect answer. What do you want to be when you grow up? Um Adult, an adult, yeah. Oh, what do you think is so cool about being an adult? You got to care your kids, yeah.

Coraline

And you got to make them dinner.

Darren

So you think the coolest part about being an adult is Taking care of kids and making dinner.

Hiking With a Child in Nature

Coraline

Yeah, who Wait? Did someone do that with twerk?

Darren

Uh, someone carved that tree.

Coraline

Oh yeah, it's a lot of Tell me you, you can do that.

Darren

You really shouldn't, because it hurts the tree.

Coraline

What is? What is someone else doing?

Darren

Because sometimes people don't think.

Coraline

And some people want to Wait. A birdhouse Right there, Look at that?

Darren

What kind of bird lives in there?

Coraline

Uh, some bug tan go in there.

Darren

Bugs definitely go in there.

Coraline

A bug just went my eye.

Darren

It happens, got to get used to it.

Coraline

It was a fly.

Darren

It was a little tiny fly.

Coraline

What if it goes in your eye?

Darren

Well then you just blink really fast and it comes out. So what do you want to tell the listeners of this show?

Coraline

Hmm, can we find a birdhouse right now?

Darren

We found a birdhouse right now. What else, what do you think is most important or important for a listener to hear?

Coraline

Well, well then I think, whatever it is, I don't think there is room left. Can you guarantee I would, because I want my sisters to go on a hike with me.

Darren

You want your sisters to go on a hike with you.

Coraline

Mm-hmm.

Darren

Okay.

Coraline

It was like all of my sisters Wait, is this moth?

Darren

That is. What else do you think is most important?

Coraline

A bug when they're my eye again.

Darren

You think a bug is really important.

Coraline

Yeah, when they're my eye again.

Darren

What else?

Coraline

That uh work. Did someone make that with twerk right there?

Darren

Yes, that's the trail marker. It's also called a blaze.

Coraline

Oh, so did they make it with twerk, and that tells us if we're on the right trail.

Darren

It tells us to go left. It tells us to go right.

Coraline

They did that again work.

Darren

Yeah, they did it all over this park. Do you hear the plane?

Coraline

That's not a plane.

Darren

So when you're hiking, the reason why it's so amazing is you're using all of your senses Right. Take a deep breath, Smell. You smell the nature. What do you smell?

Coraline

I smell like trees.

Darren

What else? Poop? You smell poop, you smell trees. What else? Flowers, flowers, anything else? Uh, a moss, a moss, very good observation. And what do you hear? Uh, the birds, birds. What else? The water, the water, Anything else? No, I hear some wind rustling through the leaves. I hear some wind, yeah, and what do you feel?

Coraline

I feel like a wind. I feel like a wind. I feel like a wind. I feel like a wind.

Darren

I feel like a wind, yeah, and what do you feel? I?

Coraline

feel bugs, you feel bugs.

Darren

What about the breeze? The chill from the breeze?

Coraline

Uh-huh.

Darren

You feel warmth.

Coraline

I feel moss.

Darren

You feel moss, anything else?

Coraline

Not the, and I feel warmth and tree and tree dogs.

Darren

Yeah, and what do you taste?

Coraline

I taste like weed and stuff you taste the leaves.

Darren

Well, we're not really using our taste.

Coraline

We've got it. I wonder what it is in there.

Darren

That's probably a raccoon. It's a little dead. And then your last sense. Most importantly, what do you see?

Coraline

Tree.

Darren

Tree, what else?

Coraline

Plants, plants and sticks, sticks, walks.

Darren

What else?

Coraline

In the leaves, that's it.

Darren

That's right. What about that stream? And I see a sleam. And if you look all the way up through the clouds and the trees, what do you see? I see A Sun. What about the thing making that noise? Airplane.

Coraline

Airplane. And daddy, I know what was in there bunny, oh, a bunny could live in there, so that's why it's important for us to hike Let me feel this again, you're using all your senses. Well, this feels so good.

Darren

Yeah, which? What are you feeling?

Coraline

I'm feeling moss.

Darren

Moss, that's right.

Coraline

Yeah.

Darren

Feels good.

Coraline

There's a big ant on that one.

Darren

Lots of ants. This is their home.

Coraline

I'm not going to touch that one because there's an ant on it Probably not wise to touch an ant right now. Yeah, I'm touching this one because there's no ants.

Darren

Yeah.

Coraline

Even a nut right on the tail.

Darren

But you see how important it is for us to be a nature.

Coraline

She has nuts on here.

Darren

Oh, maybe a squirrel. You see how important it is for us to be a nature.

Coraline

I want to go on a long hike.

Darren

Well, this is kind of a long hike, don't worry.

Coraline

Can we go on a long hike?

Darren

We are going on a long hike, good.

Coraline

Not a short hike.

Darren

Not a short hike. How many miles do you want to go?

Coraline

Five.

Darren

Five miles.

Coraline

No 10.

Darren

No, I don't think those little tiny legs can go 10. I can.

Coraline

They can go 10.

Darren

Okay, well, this is going to be a long hike, then yeah, a long hike. Well, we're almost a mile in. Believe it or not, those little legs are walking yeah this money. What do you think is really important when you're hiking, walking, walking, yeah, how about looking where you're going? Yeah, how about looking where you're going.

Coraline

I'm feeling trees.

Darren

Feeling trees. You don't want to do that to too many plants. Here's why Some of those might be poisonous. We want to look out for poison ivy. Don't worry, that was not, but I'm going to point out poison ivy too, so you never, ever ever touch it, not even by mistake.

Coraline

Okay, what if it's just a tree?

Darren

If it's the tree, that's fine, but you want to make sure you identify the plants that you're touching.

Coraline

Can you tell me if it's poison ivy?

Darren

I will tell you if it's poison ivy, Is that poison ivy? No, poison ivy usually grows on a vine, or it always grows on a vine, because it is a vine it's usually coming from, and around a tree it's got leaves of three, so three leaves. One of the leaves is slightly bigger than the other two and it looks like this. It's like a triangle. So there's one, two and three.

Coraline

Does it look like that? Is that poison?

Darren

ivy. No, that's not. That's part of a tree, it's okay, and the stem is usually a little red on the newish Can.

Coraline

I feel that, can I feel that?

Darren

And lastly, the leaves are a little bit rigid or jagged. So I'm going to point some out because it's funny.

Coraline

Daddy, we'll get that leaf.

Darren

That's a cool leaf.

Coraline

Yeah, and that one.

Darren

Yeah, lots of leaves, so we're going to find some poison ivy.

Coraline

Daddy, I want to see that leaf, what it looks like on the back. Okay, wow, it looks brown on the back.

Darren

It's going to fell, so it's not alive anymore.

Coraline

Wow, is this alive?

Darren

The wetter. Hold on to that special leaf. We're going to find some poison ivy and I'm going to show you what it looks like which is not going to touch it.

Coraline

Is this poison, ivy?

Darren

No, that's just a maple leaf.

Coraline

Oh, does maple leaves look like that? Is that a maple leaf? Yeah, colorful leaves, or those maple leaves. They are. Is it colorful or are they maple leaves?

Darren

Well, they get colorful when they lose its chlorophyll.

Coraline

Chlorophyll is what makes it green. This one is colorful, not the poison ivy.

Darren

Nope, that's not.

Coraline

The poison ivy is your wand.

Darren

Oh yeah, you do not want poison ivy Ever.

Coraline

Are we going back right now?

Darren

No, we're going down another trailhead.

Coraline

Oh, it's not. This is back. Are we going to go up that ramp?

Darren

Yeah, that's a bridge.

Coraline

For the water, you don't step in it.

Darren

Hold on. Do you think that you can cross this bridge on your own?

Coraline

Yeah.

Darren

OK, go, dad, I come Coming. You found the orange marker. Yeah, it's right there. What does that tell us?

Coraline

It tells us we're going the right, we're going the right direction.

Darren

Yeah, point to it. We are going in the right direction.

Coraline

Dad, this is O3-2.

Darren

Well, that would have been a telephone pole that they probably repurposed just to make a trailhead. Oh, that's a good thing.

Coraline

And this is a telephone pole.

Darren

So, baby, do you have any heroes?

Coraline

Yes who? Uh, my sisters.

Darren

Close to them, uh-huh. Why are they your hero?

Coraline

Because sometimes they play with me.

Darren

Oh, ok, that's your order.

Coraline

And then if one of my toys have a booboo, they help them.

Darren

Do you miss your sisters? Uh-huh yeah, they'll be home soon.

Coraline

Not that way, because that's the way we just went.

Darren

You have a really good sense of direction. You must get that from your mama. Go this way.

Coraline

Which way are we going now?

Darren

Watch out for the mud. Yeah, there you go. Always look forward, and a little bit slightly down.

Coraline

What if there's a poop, hoist poop, then you don't step in it, yeah don't step in it. You go around.

Darren

Go around.

Coraline

You go right here, and if there's a poop right there, you go right here. Yeah, where is it?

Darren

Stay out of there, bitch. Why? Because you never know if this boy's not even there.

Coraline

OK, let's go. I was gonna dig in there If there was, if there was, if there was a cricket. Was there, Dad? What is that?

Darren

What, what it's a rock.

Coraline

There's lots of colorful weeds on this.

Darren

There's lots of everything out here.

Coraline

So much colorful weeds.

Darren

What have you learned so far on this hike?

Coraline

Finding colorful weeds. Daddy, get me a sunny yeah, we're going to go.

Darren

Can we go swim today? Yeah, for sure.

Coraline

Can we get me a sunny yeah?

Darren

Do you want to go to the fair too? Yeah, fairies, get me some animals. Yeah, we are animals. What's your favorite animal? Horse, horse.

Coraline

I want a sea horse.

Darren

OK.

Coraline

I want a sea horse.

Darren

You want a sea horse, like as in a sea horse, or you want to see a horse.

Coraline

Like a real horse.

Darren

A real horse, but not a sea horse. Yeah, ok.

Coraline

I wonder why this bridge is here. Because of the water, yes.

Darren

You have to walk over the water. It's a nice trail, huh.

Coraline

Mm-hmm.

Darren

How are your legs doing Good Good? Are you motivated?

Coraline

No.

Darren

No.

Coraline

That means I'm not even tired.

Darren

No, motivated doesn't mean that you're tired, not. Do you want to keep going? Do you feel good about yourself?

Coraline

Yes, I want to keep going.

Darren

All right, let's hike up this mountain and get to where we're going. Ready, are we focused? We're on a mission. Now, right, what's the mission? Going home, no, getting up this mountain One foot in front of the next. That's how you do it.

Coraline

Wow, I thought of putting.

Darren

Hey, core line. All right, look here there's poison ivy when, right here. You see those leaves growing on this tree. Here the three leaves. All right, you see how they're growing on that vine. Ok, sometimes they grow on the floor because they stretch out. Ok, see three leaves. They're a little bit shiny. There's one main one that's longer than the other two. The branch that connects the leaves is slightly red and the leaves are a little jagged. You touch that and you'll get very itchy. So we're never going to touch that.

Coraline

Daddy, is that poison, ivy?

Darren

That was poison, ivy. Yes.

Coraline

Is that poison ivy on that tree.

Darren

No.

Coraline

That's a white ball.

Darren

Oh wait, yeah, that's poison ivy right there too.

Coraline

Hey Daddy, hey what. I know what this is from. Someone maybe walked a toy. Maybe yeah, they maybe walked a truck. They're like little yellow truck toys yeah.

Darren

All right, we're doing it. We're almost up this mountain. Keep going, Keep going. Have any more words of wisdom for us? No, OK, you getting tired? No Good, I like that. Lots of energy, right? Yeah, it's giving me so much energy. Here we go. More poison ivy Ready. See this hairy vine Now it's fuzzy that right there attaches itself to the tree and it grows up this tree. It eventually chokes a tree. You know why that vine has a cut in it? Because someone who works here is really nice cut the vine which kills the poison ivy above it.

Coraline

Oh.

Darren

But it's still poisonous.

Coraline

So someone's been very nice and they kill the poison ivy.

Darren

But it's still poisonous. Here, actually, come here. This, right here, that right, there is poison ivy. This one. See how it comes out Slightly red on the inside. Don't touch with your foot, it's fine. It's my foot. One, two, three. The main one is a little bit longer and bigger than the others. It's a little jagged, shiny.

Coraline

Are you only allowed to touch it with your foot?

Darren

because you have so long I can, because I know what I'm doing and I don't want you even playing around with it. But that's how dangerous it is. It looks like all the other little plants here. It's all over here.

Coraline

I'm not going to pick up any more leaves.

Darren

OK, so what have you learned today on this hike?

Coraline

Picking up leaves.

Darren

You learned picking up leaves, so you love picking up leaves. I don't get that leaf. I see it.

Coraline

I'm going to show you what's in my foot.

Darren

This is endless supply of leaves.

Coraline

Good job, that leaf.

Darren

What color is it?

Coraline

What is the other one that I don't know?

Darren

God did you learn how to cross the stream?

Coraline

We need about crossing the stream. We need about seeing if we see poison ivy not touching it.

Darren

Anything else? No, All right. Well, I think that's a really good job, the fun guy right now. Of course it is. It's a sunny day.

Coraline

So can we go to the field.

Darren

Absolutely we can.

Coraline

Yay.

Darren

Next time on I Took a Hike. We kick off season two with Michael Malgiri and, trust me, you won't want to miss this incredible story. Tune in Tuesday, september 12th, for the premiere of season two of I Took a Hike, hosted by me, darren Mass. Until next time, thanks for listening.