Prepare to embark on a laughter-filled journey with our guest, Eeland Stribbling. Eeland, a man of many talents, is not just a biologist and outdoorsman who loves fishing and education but also a comedian! This episode is loaded with stories from Eeland's experiences in the wild, his passion for fly fishing, and his comic stints. He recalls the thrill of seeing a tarpon smash a fly, shares his amusing encounters with Instagram DMs, and offers an unfiltered perspective on the comedy world - even when it's not all laughs.
From the adrenaline surge of hunting to the solemn process of preparing game animals, Elan's unique outlook on outdoor pursuits will make you see nature in a new light. We talk about his film I'll Wait Here Forever, produced with Huckberry, and get a sneak peek into his plans for a semi-scripted carp fishing film - an adventure he's eager to share with the world.
Eeland's love for nature and his penchant for comedy make this episode a mix of hilarity and thoughtfulness. Whether it's the excitement of tarpon fishing, the camaraderie at trout camp, or the rollercoaster of emotions that is permit fishing, Eeland's storytelling brings alive the magic of the outdoors. He also opens up about his family's influence on his stand-up career, the ups and downs of performing comedy, and the peculiar yet fascinating world of Instagram fame. So come laugh with us, learn with us, and embrace the outdoors with Eeland Stribbling!
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Prepare to embark on a laughter-filled journey with our guest, Eeland Stribbling. Eeland, a man of many talents, is not just a biologist and outdoorsman who loves fishing and education but also a comedian! This episode is loaded with stories from Eeland's experiences in the wild, his passion for fly fishing, and his comic stints. He recalls the thrill of seeing a tarpon smash a fly, shares his amusing encounters with Instagram DMs, and offers an unfiltered perspective on the comedy world - even when it's not all laughs.
From the adrenaline surge of hunting to the solemn process of preparing game animals, Elan's unique outlook on outdoor pursuits will make you see nature in a new light. We talk about his film I'll Wait Here Forever, produced with Huckberry, and get a sneak peek into his plans for a semi-scripted carp fishing film - an adventure he's eager to share with the world.
Eeland's love for nature and his penchant for comedy make this episode a mix of hilarity and thoughtfulness. Whether it's the excitement of tarpon fishing, the camaraderie at trout camp, or the rollercoaster of emotions that is permit fishing, Eeland's storytelling brings alive the magic of the outdoors. He also opens up about his family's influence on his stand-up career, the ups and downs of performing comedy, and the peculiar yet fascinating world of Instagram fame. So come laugh with us, learn with us, and embrace the outdoors with Eeland Stribbling!
Find Josh on Instagram or Twitter.
Presented by:
Spoke Hollow Outdoors - find them on Instagram or Facebook.
For more great BunkHaus content, check out:
BunkHausPodcast.com | Youtube | Instagram
One of my greatest tarponies my only my greatest tarponies is fishing off the boat. Same sort of thing that bunch of fish cruising and we had like seen them coming from pretty far away and then they like went down and I could, like I was looking off the end of the boat, just like seeing the fish go under just long dark shadows and just seeing them cruising. And so a cast and I let it sink and I'm stripping, I'm stripping and this fish comes up and the flies like coming towards me and the fish is behind it, and I was like huh, huh, huh, huh.
Speaker 1:And I was like, and the fish dips down, and I was like, fuck, he's going to go, he's going to go away. And it dips down, comes up and around to catch the head of the fly, and so I see the fish like when he eats it, it like eats it from the side and like rolls its body down Nice. And it was like that scene in Godzilla, you know, like when he looks down into the manhole and you just see like the swims underneath.
Speaker 2:That was all.
Speaker 1:I saw and it was just like that was like what I was, like this is insane. And that was probably, I don't know. That was probably like my six or seven tarpon that I like saw, like cast to and like hooked into and saw. But that was like the greatest, like I could. I could play that memory in the back of my head for the rest of my life, over and, over and over and over.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the bunkhouse podcast Broadcasting from the confluence of outdoor recreation and nature connectivity. I'm your host, josh Crumpton, founder of Spokalo Outdoors and the Los O'Va'ja Food Truck. My life as a rancher, guide, foodie and conservationist has provided the opportunity to meet some really great people, and the bunkhouse is where we get to introduce them to you. In episode 14, we visit with Elan Stribbling, comedian, biologist and outdoor educator. He was in Austin for a series of comedy shows, so we hosted him at the ranch. We talked dove hunting, striper fishing, trout camp, our mutual appreciation of our Amiga Kayla Lockhart, fighting tarpon, planning your own funeral, making films, permit fishing and the importance of being in the outdoors. Yep, this episode is broad, it's weird, but it's also really funny and thoughtful. So strap it in, fire them up and let's get this thing started. So, elan, it's uh. We've been trying to get together. I've been trying to get you down here for a while. Yeah, to the ranch. So now that I know that it actually exists.
Speaker 1:Yeah, gonna come down more.
Speaker 2:Did you? Just you didn't think it was a real place.
Speaker 1:You never know. I was like, keep inviting me to these places. I just keep showing up and one time I'm going to show up and it's not going to be there. It's not.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think our uh, the first time you and I met was I don't even know who introduced us.
Speaker 1:I think I just reached out on the web it or posted chats. No, I think. I think the first time was at CX three.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right. That's right Cause I I didn't reach out to you until after CX three and you're just like cruising on the beach trying to get away from everybody.
Speaker 1:I was just vibing to my music and fishing doing my doing what I do looking for fish.
Speaker 2:Listen to the music. Striper were caught on that beach that day.
Speaker 1:No, I caught. I don't know what it was, but I called the fish but it wasn't a striper.
Speaker 2:Oh, you did that morning. What was it?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, you said you don't know, but if you had to name it, what would you have?
Speaker 1:named it Like a not a like a like a shore tuna mackerel.
Speaker 2:A smack, a smack, a smack, a mackerel A smack, a smack, a smack yeah.
Speaker 1:Like hit strong and I was like, oh, that's, that's a fish. And then, and then it just got tight and I was like oh, I got a fish, and then once I brought it, it kind of like dead weight it it was like, and then I took it off the hick and then swam away and I was like well, that was cool.
Speaker 2:What's the big?
Speaker 1:No, it was like 10 inches 11 inches, super small.
Speaker 2:In my book. That's pretty big.
Speaker 1:No, that's small, that's nothing.
Speaker 2:That's a, that's a baby fish. Didn't even fight that hard at all.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I think that was the first time we was on the, on the beach. Yeah, it was romantic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Sunlight. And then you came out to to Trout Camp.
Speaker 1:Trout Camp, which was a, which was a ball, which was. I remember I, my girlfriend and my mom were like where are you, where are you going? And I was like I don't know to Montana, and they're like for what? And I was like I don't really know, they're like with who, and I was like I don't really know and they're like all right, and I was like I'll hopefully see you in a couple of days, if not I won't see you.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so it was.
Speaker 1:It was cool to show up. And then the crew that you brought out, the crew that was out there was just. I mean, I met Kayla before and then the rest of the people were super nice. And I'm I still talk to one of the I can't remember his name, randy, I think, was one of the guys that we floated with for like two days. And then we like every once in a while Instagram just like say what's up how you doing Cool fish, or Ron Ron Ron.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so he was a super cool guy. Yeah, he was awesome.
Speaker 1:And he would be like sitting on the boat, hooked into a fish, and he's like you don't say much. And I was like I don't know what I'm supposed to say and I was also on the boat with Kayla.
Speaker 2:So just like.
Speaker 1:It's the polar opposite, where Kayla like wow wow.
Speaker 2:And then I was just like you guys wow, wow, it's just any noise.
Speaker 1:And so he was just like you guys, you don't say much. And she said, and I was like yeah, she's, she's fishy and she wants people to know. I'm fishy but I'm like a secret, I want people to be like what's that? Guy doing back there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're like, I already caught and released the fish. Yeah, I don't need your help and I don't need to show you my, my fish. Nope, I've got. Oh, man, it's on my phone, which is up on the wall right now, so I want to read it to you, but I can't memorize it yeah. I'm trying, I'm just going to make it up.
Speaker 1:Improv class. I'm going to make a lie. Yeah, let's do improv.
Speaker 2:So I said I was like Matthew Elin's coming to the ranch.
Speaker 1:He's like oh, I love.
Speaker 2:Elin, he's the best. And then, like something came up and then he was like yeah, he's way better than Kayla. So I said so. I said Kayla attacks to media. I was like Matthew's excited Elin's coming to the ranch. He says that he's way better than you. So, mean it's so she's kids back. I'm forever hurt by this, but also it's kind of true. That's what she said, something like that. It's funny.
Speaker 1:It's just every, every when I leave her, I'm like think I miss Kayla. And then I see her, like I remember why I love Kayla, and then after a day I'm like I can't wait to not see Kayla again. And then it just happens over that. She's like the, she's like the seasons.
Speaker 2:She's like my favorite person to miss.
Speaker 1:She's like, yeah, that's it. It's a great person to miss, but you always want, I always want to miss her. I want to forever Kayla.
Speaker 2:Lockhart, we love you. Kayla, come and come visit.
Speaker 1:You should be here right now. I just, oh, I would, it would be a ball. Yeah, she is allowed to even be. I know, though, and she knows, that she's just like the chirpiest. She's like a little like a bird. She's not necessarily the loudest, but she just it never, she never stops chirping.
Speaker 2:Well earlier, Matthew was talking about how, when she was here and she was um, her laugh sounds like a loon. Is what we determine. Like she could be, like she could call birds in with her loon laugh.
Speaker 1:Oh man, I mean I sometimes I think about making Kayla's laugh my ringtone, just because I'll never miss a call. That's a great idea, I think.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do that. I'm going to turn her laugh into the ring for her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you'll never miss.
Speaker 2:And I will never miss her call.
Speaker 1:You can just you can be like I lost my phone and then say can someone text Kayla and say, call Josh. I always tell my ringer off though. I never, I never Deviant behavior.
Speaker 2:So it's, it's like. So it's taken me a long time, like the other day I asked you a question. I want to. I want to talk about that here on the podcast, cause I was like what do you do?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like what do you do? I mean like and I didn't really give you answers, no, you really did Like you're like a little of this, a little of that. I'm a shifty cat. I prefer to be in the shadows.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like, are you a model? Yeah, but that's not by choice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's just to pay the bills it happened upon me and when it comes up and occasion is cool, but I'm never like oh, I should get a modeling gig, or like I got bills to pay, I should do a shoot. That's never. I don't think that's ever crossed my mind ever. Just like oh, but it's not even modeling. It's like what do you want me to do? Like, if you want me to go fish, then like yeah, I'll stand there for, like you have 45 minutes with me posing until I'm like this is dumb.
Speaker 2:Like can I do something?
Speaker 1:Can I do what I came here to fish. So if you want to shoot me fishing, then I'll just let me fish and we can probably get some fish stuff. If you don't want me to fish, then I don't want to be. So it's not even modeling, it's just do we want to take pictures of even fishing? Yeah, which is a weird thing to say out loud. So you fish?
Speaker 2:So I definitely not modeling. It's like I came here to fish.
Speaker 1:I came here to fish. People say we want to take pictures of you, but I'm not like, take pictures of me, don't take pictures of me.
Speaker 2:So sometimes fishing model, a fish model, you're like a model for fish.
Speaker 1:Rarely, yeah, fish love me. If you look up GQ fish magazine like the fish version of GQ, I'm all over. It's just me that comedian educator. Yeah, educate, just loosely, trying to show people and kids that you can play outside and have fun and protect it without it being like a far away thing. So just making the affection for the outdoors not so far away and protecting and loving it not such a strange concept to people like me, people from my community.
Speaker 2:So wouldn't even say educator just a shower. I like it. A peep and tomm for nature Professional show yeah. I like to show people. I do that too. You got to jail too. It's awkward, yeah. So can we talk about comedy? Can we talk about, like, the challenges Can you get? Can we get into the the like why you're doing what?
Speaker 1:you're doing Like of comedy, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean the behind the scenes stuff. Does it pay a zillion dollars? Can we start there? Um, the only person that gets paid a zillion dollars is Kevin Hart. But that's kind of the thing I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean.
Speaker 1:I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean like, I mean, I mean you know, I mean, I mean a Rothes Verde is like a 13 year old man who literally discovered comedy and he's saying it's not a tv show. It's not a TV show. Wonderful, yeah, I mean, I mean. I mean, I mean it's when you buy movie tickets and dining seats and standing them on the floor, what, what sort of show are you talking about? People like the terus over at you, people were everyone's not supposed to be having a good time and it'd be the best show of your life. So there's always like, there's never like the perfect recipe for comedy. There's always something that's like why did this work? But we never really know.
Speaker 1:It's like fishing, it's like yeah, I showed up here one day and I got lucky. I caught this many fish. But it doesn't mean I know what I'm doing or I'm good at it, cause I could show up the same time next year, but the same day tomorrow and be like this was so much better. Why wasn't this the same today as it was yesterday? So I freaking, I freaking love comedy, I love comics, I love making people laugh, I like the nuances of stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is that always like your whole life?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think, pretty from a pretty young age I was my family is very funny. So it was just like if you go to a family function, like my aunties are roasting people, my cousins are roasting people, my uncles are like making jokes, like everyone's always not even like all in their game, but everyone is just always so like quick, or like being around my family is funny. So I just I was always laughing and I was like, well, that's a, that's like. When I think about laughing, I think about my family and so like I don't know, it was always just brought up.
Speaker 1:And then when I was in fifth grade fourth grade maybe Kat Williams had a special come out and I went over my best friend on Drase's house and his older brother was watching Kat Williams on HBO and I remember they were all like playing in the other room and I'd sat down and I was watching Kat Williams special. Didn't know what he was talking about. I was in fourth grade or whatever, but I remember watching him being like this guy is standing up in a room full of 5,000 people and he's making them laugh. He's like sharing stories. He's like it seems like he's being silly. It was like creatively. I was like that's like a superpower, like that's so cool, I wanna do that. So then I was like it was in my head but I never thought like oh, I'm gonna be a standup comedian. And in high school I've like lied to people and I was like, yeah, I'm doing standup comedy. I was in like sophomore in high school. It's like, yeah, I'm doing standup comedy.
Speaker 1:They're like where'd you go last night? And I was like someone to the comedy club and did standup and I was like I was just at home playing call it duty, like I don't know why I lied, but I was like I started to do it and then, even when I was in college, I started doing standup. I was like super lonely for, like my junior year, college, my beginning of my junior year, and I was like I didn't really have people or community or anything I was doing that was great for myself or the world. So I just started, I went to an open mic and started doing standup and it still never really had the idea of like, oh, I'm going to be a standup comedian Like the word standup comedian was like Dave Chappelle, richard Pryor, george Carlin, bill, like these people who are standup comedians.
Speaker 1:I was like I just want to do standup comedy, like I just want to get good at standup comedy, I don't want to be a. I never thought like I want to be a comedian. I was like, oh, I just want to do comedy, I want to be good at it. So and then I just never, just I can't, I can't stop If I get irritable at home. My girlfriend's like you should go do standup so you can, whatever it is.
Speaker 2:Whatever this?
Speaker 1:weirdness is you can leave me alone and go figure that with strangers. So I've been, I've been very blessed, very lucky to be able to do it.
Speaker 2:So you, you don't, you don't do it for the money.
Speaker 1:You do it for the money.
Speaker 2:Do you think you'll be famous one day?
Speaker 1:I don't want to be. I don't want to be famous. I don't want to. If my dream, if I could like sell out a theater in every city or state and like people show up to see me and like they know that we're going to have like a good time and a joke's going to be good and we're going to talk a little bit of shit and like have fun. But then I get off stage and no one knows who I am, like I'm just like a regular person. That would be tight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it doesn't work that way. It doesn't. But if I could, if I could do that.
Speaker 1:So if I could have a comedy career but then get off stage and just live like a normal, like working nine to five or like do other stuff. That's just like normal life stuff. And then when I'm like, hey, I'm coming to the city and then people are like, oh, everyone buys tickets, we sell out the show, have a banger show. And then I get off stage and then I'm walking down the street and people are like who?
Speaker 2:they don't even like not, they're just like who's that guy? And I'm just like yes, if you got rich and famous, could I ride in your private jet If I got rich yeah, yeah, you could, you would probably be too busy doing shows to fish. Could I go and fish for you? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I would, I would, I would, I would fly. If I had a show in Houston, I would fly the Belize early in the morning Before the show. Before the show yeah, try to go stick a couple of fish and then fly back and land, walk off the plane and as I'm walking off the plane change and then walk right into the. I'll land the plane on the street so I can just walk into the comedy club.
Speaker 2:I want to be in that entourage on the fishing entourage. That'd be so tight. Okay, this is recorded. That's like a contract. It's like a verbal contract, I mean done.
Speaker 1:It's law. It is signed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would love to have a fishing entourage.
Speaker 1:I don't want to be famous, I just want enough money into one. Buy a house two. I think that's it. Just buy a house.
Speaker 2:Just put a buy a house.
Speaker 1:If I could make enough comedy money to buy a house, that'd be tight. And then, yeah, I don't want to be famous. It seems like that takes too much effort.
Speaker 2:Because you.
Speaker 1:I mean, you've probably you've met famous people, and it's like they're just still people.
Speaker 2:But some of them are.
Speaker 1:Most of them are assholes. Couple of them are sweet. It seems like they, they like, put extra. I don't want to tax myself with that sort of If you're going to be famous.
Speaker 2:Responsibility. You better be like really rich and famous. Because here's the thing I think being famous probably is not worth it, unless you get paid a lot of money. I guess that's true. I don't want to be. I also don't want to be broken famous Like they got to.
Speaker 1:Even he's great, he's poor. He is poor, but he is famous. He is famous Means he has no privacy and no money. We know exactly where he lives and it is not nice where he lives. He is not doing well, but we know him and he's great at comedy. He just sucks at life.
Speaker 2:So you came down here, you did a few shows, yeah, a couple shows.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So this is like weird stuff, Like. So you did like a bunch of different shows.
Speaker 1:Oh man, the talk to me, the variation has been insane. I've done, you know, a show for six people and buta, buta, Buta.
Speaker 2:Buta Texas. It's spelled like Buddha. Yes.
Speaker 1:But we call it buta Did a couple shows in buta Texas. Oh, we did one show in buta Texas with six people in a room that could probably fit a hundred people. So that was nice.
Speaker 2:Was that awkward? Nice and spaced out Just how we like it. Was it real awkward?
Speaker 1:We did a show in another place that's in like the back of a house, pretty much kind of like this setup.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:It's like the, let's say, the comedians in that corner and there's people in that corner, people in that corner. You can just sort of walk in the middle A room full of about, let's say, like 40 people and that show sucked. Oh really, the beautiful show was more fun, Like they were paying attention more. Last night, same sort of vibe Did a did a show at a comedy club and there was maybe like 10 people there in a room of like 150. But then the bar staff was laughing more than the people in the audience. But people were having. People were like, yeah, we had a good time. So it's just a variation. Tonight I'll probably do all the shows. It's a Friday night. All the shows would probably be packed in good audiences or whatever.
Speaker 2:But you get this interaction. I know like just the internet, whatever channels allow people to come across the content that gets created, or your jokes or any of those things, and then also being able to be out in person, Like earlier we were talking about the weird DMs text messages, the weird DMs that you get, Like this lady invited you to Spurs.
Speaker 1:No no, no, she invited me to. She invited me to take her spot to go watch the Spurs game instead of her with her husband.
Speaker 2:With her husband, yeah.
Speaker 1:So she tried to send me up on a mandate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with her husband, with her husband, yeah, so she could drink wine. She could drink wine and do her taxes. Yeah, is that?
Speaker 1:Which is what she said.
Speaker 2:This is somebody you did not know. This person Never met him. They never even come up to the show and say hi.
Speaker 1:She didn't. Even after the show she didn't come up and say hey, that was very funny. My name is so-and-so. What's your Instagram? She just found me on Instagram.
Speaker 2:I mean that's a generous offer, it's very sweet, also very alarming.
Speaker 1:My mom always told me if someone offers you something, what's the catch? Like someone Right, I mean I'm funny, but I'm not At no point. Last night was like I'm so funny right now that if someone had tickets to a Spurs game, they would give them to me Like I'm not at no point did.
Speaker 2:I think I was that funny. I like the Spurs and I want to see the Spurs.
Speaker 1:I never mentioned the Spurs, I'd never said, hey, I like basketball. I also think you know I was the only black comic on the show, so she probably was like well if I am going to give tickets to somebody to an NBA game, who would I give them to?
Speaker 2:I mean, you're also tall she was like this guy.
Speaker 1:he made just sub into the game. Maybe she's like working for the Spurs and she's like maybe this guy was just sub it. Maybe they need a sub at a halftime and this guy could do it and he's funny, so he could do the halftime show and then sub in the second half of the game.
Speaker 2:That might have been what was going on, which I probably could Spurs, if you need me.
Speaker 1:I am that talented. I got to stretch. Give me a couple of weeks to stretch them, but I'll come back to my glory days. You played basketball yeah. Freshman year, sophomore year of college Walked on was on the practice squad.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And realized I wasn't basketball cool.
Speaker 2:What does that mean?
Speaker 1:Just like you, like when you see basketball play, like they, like they all dressed us similar way and like, like thought they were cool people.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I was like then you guys are, you guys don't know, you guys don't know anything, because I'm cool people, because people who play basketball at CSU, you know it's like not a, it's not a cool place to play, but like I walked onto the team, so that doesn't that should give you that should take away your confidence a little bit. I mean, I'm an amazing athlete. I'm probably the greatest basketball player ever. But still it's like if he walked on you. We, and we tried to do this we should?
Speaker 2:they tried hard, yeah, yeah, and so you didn't. You didn't try. I was like I'll just go. Did you play in high school Playing the woods?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I played basketball in high school, did snowboarding and played baseball and ran track my freshman year high school but I was like I don't, can't. There's a lot of sports man, I'm the greatest athlete this world has ever seen.
Speaker 2:I could always tell that about you. Yeah, you know sometimes it's scary. Did that's not the weirdest? Give me like two of the weirdest DMs that you've gotten.
Speaker 1:Oh, I had a guy a couple of weeks ago who was like hey, I heard you've been spreading rumors around Colorado saying that I called you the end word. Like he messaged me to tell you that. To tell me that he's like, I heard a rumor that you've been telling people that I called you the end word on the river, on the river in Colorado, and I was like bro, I don't know.
Speaker 2:So that was a weird one. You didn't, you didn't tell him nigga, please.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I should. I should have said, I should have said the voice message back and just said that but I, I, I was, I was just like I don't fish with that many people. I fish with like two people.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I was like, and I was like what, that's weird. It is weird Also, what do you want me to respond to? That Like, yes, you did really respond. Yeah, I did. I was like I don't know who you are.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And if you, if you know, if people know me from fishing, I fish with one person. Maybe when I go to the salt there's a guy who I fish with quite often because he can, you know, skip down the trips. But I fish with one person, maybe in Colorado, the rest is with my dog. It's like I'm not walking around the river being like hey, did you hear? Like there you can ask a bunch of anglers.
Speaker 1:which is so stupid. The Angling Community, like there's gossip in the Angling Community. How stupid is that? There's so much gossip? But that's stupid.
Speaker 2:It is dumb, it's official. You know what I know.
Speaker 1:But I'm like, who am I? There's no gossip in the Angling Community I mean people can make up stuff like he did, but it's like I'm not. Who am I? I didn't know, it didn't like logically make sense to me.
Speaker 2:Hunters and anglers are shit talkers Like it's just like you look at them Like what do you think?
Speaker 2:Like, if I think about, like, if I think about hunters or anglers, I think about a bunch of like this is this is. I'm getting really stereotypical, actually I think about like a bunch of white dudes in flannel, like around a big table drinking coffee and talking shit. That's what I think about, but extending that further into our current communities, like people who do the things that we do in the outdoors. They love to get together and tell stories.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but about I can, I can look. If he lied and was like, bro, I heard you lying about catching 30 inch fish, I'd be like probably that's true. I probably told someone something that somewhere I can tell a fishing liar. If I was like I heard you said you shot a milk with your fist and you pulled his heart out, I'd be like, all right, that makes sense. That's why.
Speaker 2:But that's true, but not that one. So what was it? What did he respond?
Speaker 1:after you like no, he just saw it and I was like no, you don't have the decency to be like oh, that's my batterer, so I'm so, so, so, and if, even if he was like well, josh told me that you said I'd be like okay, will you and fucking Josh go tickle each other's balls Like I don't know what you want?
Speaker 2:me to do yeah, what do you do about it? I don't got nothing to do, it doesn't have anything to do with me.
Speaker 1:So I was just like and that's where the famous part comes in, where it's like a lot of people will be like, oh, elon's Instagram famous, or Elon's like a fly fishing in, like a fishing influence, like, if that's the shit, I got to do it. No, I don't imagine what people you know who I, who have more followers or live in the fishing world exclusively how they deal with that shit. But I'm like not done.
Speaker 2:I don't feel like very many would have gotten that message.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, probably I'm probably the pioneer of my time. Yeah, do you have you ever got? Do you get weird Instagram DMs? I mean, look, women hitting on me in my Instagram DMs is weird. Yeah, but I love it.
Speaker 2:Well, it's flattering, it fits, Come on. So what does that look like?
Speaker 1:Oh, those are just more. You know my boys are going to change here, but a little deviant behavior.
Speaker 2:Those give a little risk yeah.
Speaker 1:Just after shows or just after trade shows, after fishing stuff, people are just like. And then I tell people like I love kids, I love working with kids, and then just the ladies are like this guy is a fucking saint.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't get any of that.
Speaker 1:And I'm like no, no, no, no. I feel like you would get it out of shape.
Speaker 2:You're young and in shape.
Speaker 1:No, there's. There's ladies who like old guys. Yeah, there are, yeah there are.
Speaker 2:It gets weird.
Speaker 1:Yeah, instagram is weird, like it's a weird way, it's a dangerous place.
Speaker 2:Well, people can just feel like they could say anything which they can't, but they could do that person. But somehow Instagram is just like whatever. A friend of mine and I we spent like months just talking like we were from Australia On Instagram.
Speaker 1:No, in person Okay.
Speaker 2:This was real life.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is like real life Instagram.
Speaker 2:Like the DMs of Instagram.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:It was like we had the worst frigid Australian and so, like my friend from Australia already told me, my accent was terrible and then she tried to help me work on it. But either way, it was like you. If you went into a bar and did that like people said terrible things to you. Really, we used to do that in college too. We would go to places in college. Me and one of my buddies would go to college. We'd go to these bars and we would pretend like one of us was from another country.
Speaker 1:Oh, and then the person would translate yeah, did I tell you about this already. I love it, it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2:It'd be like you should cut the voice so much. I meant the most. I'm like everybody. Be like, be like he said like Italian fridge.
Speaker 1:That sounds like the despicable me gibberish we always just like Algeria.
Speaker 2:He's from Algeria.
Speaker 1:I got to speak in Algeria.
Speaker 2:And so like we'd get these things and people would be like you'd have like again, like women, dudes, everybody just saying the like most off the wall. I think that's like. That's the in person Instagram.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's like when they're like from another country.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would love to visit this country from another country for real.
Speaker 1:I am. That is fun. I like the idea of going to go in the bars and interpreting. I think that's really fun. Have you seen? These sign language interpreters has been getting in trouble.
Speaker 2:No, I don't know if I should laugh or if this is going to be bad. It's like what's what's happening.
Speaker 1:I think it's a victimless crime, so I think it's okay to laugh. But there's. There's been like news conferences, police conferences, where like let's say it's something horrible has happened, there's been a 17 car pile up or whatever, and the police chief gets on and like last minute, they're like, oh, we need a sign interpreter. And someone's there and they're like, oh, I do.
Speaker 2:I do sign language.
Speaker 1:and then it's like the police chief being like yeah, so there's a 17 car pile up, there's like five people dead, a bunch of people injured we want to make sure that. And then there's just a person on the side of him who's just like signing, signing, but it's not signing.
Speaker 2:Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1:They're just like they're just doing stuff with their fingers and hands.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's the juca de policia, it's a spelling stuff.
Speaker 1:And then people were like people who actually sign in this language are like that's that, what is that person doing? That's the person's not doing. And then they sometimes I get caught Sometimes they just leave and never get seen again.
Speaker 2:There's like a viral thing, like people are doing this on purpose.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's like a trend. I don't think it's like a trend. I think people just see the opportunity, like, honestly, if I was walking past something, and they're like, oh shit, we need a sign transfer, and I'd be like I could probably do it, and we're like we went out this morning and we shot, yeah.
Speaker 2:And none of them died. Three, three died.
Speaker 1:Three went down and that's the end of the day, you know. But then someone was like that's not. He didn't say anything, but then we don't know. And they were like, oh, that's so cool, they have an interpreter there. That's very unique.
Speaker 2:I can't imagine if you're like a, if you, if you are, if you're deaf, you're watching that. The fuck is wrong with that person's accent.
Speaker 1:Like what's that Sign language? Are they speaking?
Speaker 2:They must be from another country. We did, we shot. Dove today? We did shoot doves.
Speaker 1:Well, we, we shot, I shot ad doves.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the yeah you killed that one while you were taking a nap.
Speaker 1:I did take a. I did take a nap. Look, one of my favorite things about fishing is the nap. I think you, I think you know this, I've seen it the nap is the fishing. Nap is one of the greatest joys in my life, like the purest moments of peace and calm and serenity and nature, and napping is napping on a boat. Oh, and I will if. If you were on the, on the bow and you're casting the fish, I will. I will be like I'm, I'm seeing fish for you, and then the next moment I'm, I'm out. And the only time I'm waking up is if you're like fish on or if you're like hey, do you want to jump up here and I'm awake? Other than that I'm asleep. But I was like didn't want to bother you guys. It was like you guys will shoot stuff. I heard you guys shoot and I was like I'm too tired to open my eyes. I hope they got something.
Speaker 2:You opened your eyes when we shot that bird, yeah.
Speaker 1:But you guys also shot again and I remember being like, oh. And then going right back down. Yeah, Um it was nice being out there.
Speaker 2:This is the first time you've really hunted like really intentionally to eat the food.
Speaker 1:And, yeah, intention went, went with a purpose of shooting something and doing something with it after, cause, like, like I told you, I shot squirrels with my grandfather in Philadelphia, mississippi, but I think he just wanted us to pass the time.
Speaker 2:He's wanting to get out of the house.
Speaker 1:Probably too loud yeah.
Speaker 2:So here go go, take it out on the squirrels.
Speaker 1:So, uh, so we. But we killed a bunch of squirrels in my bad squirrels, Uh, but we never did anything with him.
Speaker 2:So what'd you kind of like? And also you were younger.
Speaker 1:So you're an adult now. Middle school.
Speaker 2:And what? What was sort of your take cause? We shot clays the day before.
Speaker 1:I love. I've shot a bunch of guns, I love shooting guns. So shooting guns was really good clay shot I love. I love shooting and I think it's fun and there's always something to be learned and it's a skill that, you know, not a lot of people have. But it's like, uh, it's not a skill. I walk around like, oh, I know how to shoot guns, but I just, the more I shoot guns, the more I'm comfortable, the more I'm like this is, it is fun, uh. And so, yeah, shooting guns. I was like this is sweet, I can't believe. And then I had a moment where I was like I can't believe I'm shooting out of a live animal. It almost didn't seem real to me until you guys knocked down the first one, cause we kept missing them and I was like, oh, this is just like shooting.
Speaker 1:And then you knocked down the first one, I was like. Then you brought it over and I was like, and then I saw go down into the bush and then you guys were looking for it. And I was like oh, we're like shooting at like real stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, things that are alive.
Speaker 1:So there was a moment where I was like, oh, this is not that, it's not real. But I was like this is it's a, it's a, it's like really happening. Yeah, yeah, but I, I it was cool to learn to watch. Like I said, I've I've known what dove hunting is, but I didn't really know what exactly it was or what it entailed or what it looked like. So it was like cool to learn. And then watching the dogs and stuff, like that it was I love soaking it in and just trying to be better at it.
Speaker 1:As soon as I was walking away I was like, dang, now I want to get good at it which is just my competitive side and like my thing of like, if I'm going to do something I want to be good at, I want to be better than other people, I want to be just good at it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And not in like a showy way, just like as my own, like I'm, I'm going to get good at this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it was, uh, it was interesting. So I, I mean, I saw, so it's, it's like one thing you hit the bird, you watch the bird get it out and then you actually have the, the sort of dead animal you know, in your hand and that's that's I. I remember because I started hunting as an adult, not having a sense of gravity to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I probably wouldn't have had if I when I was a kid, because it would have just been normal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to me.
Speaker 2:Um, so then we cleaned the birds. How was that Cause? You've got it. You have background in biology. We were talking about this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've dissected a bunch of stuff. I've I catch fish and got them and clean them and, uh, I used to work for the state agency in Colorado and when we would have to put the bears down, I would. I was skinning them and taking the fur off them to donate them to schools and stuff for for students to see. So but I think I don't know something about the like the little bird just pulling off its feathers and but but I know that labor does not помог me any more. What was this like?
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, and then like I don't know, I think the because it's such a small animal-ish, I feel like with a bear, like skinning the bear, we didn't like break its neck or like we just took the fur off. You didn't take the meat. Yeah, we didn't take the meat, so we just took the fur off. And then with fish, I'm like fish are stupid, so I'll kill a bunch of brook trout and it doesn't feel like anything, but like seeing a little bird and like like cutting its wing off and like cutting its head off and taking off the feather. I was just like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you think? How do you feel? Because I felt like with Dove. The hardest thing for me with Dove is like when you shoot them and if they're not completely dead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I asked. I was like do they always die?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean, sometimes when you hit them, good they do, but a lot of times they don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That was one of the harder parts. For me was like dispatching a dove that had been, you know, shot.
Speaker 1:Shot brought down yeah.
Speaker 2:It's then brought back by the dog. But I think the cleaning of them, the processing of them, the relatively. I think it's a good place to start with hunting, because it's a bird and so they're designed to not have a lot of blood in the system because they can't weigh a lot, right, so you're not dealing with a lot of like guts and blood and those sort of things. It's pretty easy, pretty fast to clean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean those three birds, but because you're showing me, it took a little longer, but those three birds were fast. Yeah, just take the fur off and.
Speaker 2:No feathers.
Speaker 1:I mean, take the feather off and feathers off and yeah, it's just a breast meat. Pretty much it's a breast meat and organs.
Speaker 2:And so we're going to cook those later. So that'll be the first thing that you've been on a hunting trip, that you're eating or Been on a hunting trip in eight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, someone in Montana gave me. Someone in Montana in Colorado gave me Black Bear once, but I wasn't like on the hunt, we weren't on the hunt, but they just gave me like a piece of me. And then people in Colorado have elk and yeah, you mean Mule deer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but not participate in the whole process.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then we're going to quail hunt tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Sweet, that's. Yeah. Well, I saw some saw toothed quail today.
Speaker 2:We did. We saw toothed quail. We could not.
Speaker 1:But one of them was on the ground and was was his name the guy who went with this Chase. Chase was like wait till he gets up.
Speaker 2:Wait till he gets up, Don't shoot him on the ground, and I was like I wasn't even thinking about shooting him on the ground.
Speaker 1:But he was, he was, it was there, it was probably like I don't know.
Speaker 2:They were really close. 10 yards, yeah, 9 yards yeah. Pretty close and they didn't. They flew off into the, into the brush.
Speaker 1:Good for them.
Speaker 2:That was good for them. Do you think that I would like for you to come back to sort of learn that how to process deer and do that whole thing? Oh, I would love to. Do you think that'll be more difficult? Yes, I cried. The first year I shot I was I swear cried.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've seen, I've seen dead deer. I pulled them off the side of the road. I've I've hit deer and then like had to get out and like check on them and you know police came in put it out of its misery. But I don't know what it is about it and I don't think it's like a therapy thing. But I just something about seeing the animal, like just the we I mean we intrinsically look at bigger animals is like more majestic, old and like oh, they have emotions and we humanize them. But just like seeing the animal and then killing it and then watching the life out of it. The harvesting part isn't. The harvesting part has nothing to do with like the killing, like once a day of them, like Yep, then it's just like, like the gore of getting through it.
Speaker 1:But the harvesting part is it's just like the actual, like I saw. The animal was alive and now it's dead. I've seen like dead body. I've seen like dead people and dead bodies and stuff. So I have you. I don't know if I equate that You've seen dead people. Yeah, I found the dead body when I was in like Six grade, seventh grade, what?
Speaker 2:Where.
Speaker 1:I was. There's a creek in in Colorado near my grandma's house, and we see like there used to be like a park festival thing. So the park festival thing was all like one in the creek and mean, being a I didn't even know that at the time, but me being a nature bum I was like I'm just going to go look in the river and go see what's up. So I just like walked up the creek and saw dead body and then they called the police and the police came and founded the body in the creek.
Speaker 2:What happened to you ever not? Do you know the whole story?
Speaker 1:Nope, I don't think my mom wanted me to know what happened to it now.
Speaker 2:So, yes, was it traumatic, was it weird?
Speaker 1:Is it because no, I mean, it wasn't Traumatic. I was just like fuck, that's a, that's a person. It wasn't like ah, but I don't like sound. This is going to sound pretty normal, but I don't like like seeing that body like even at funerals and stuff. I'm like no that's not the person. That's not. That's not anything.
Speaker 2:There's no person there anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I don't want to see like that's. That makes me sad, so I, but it's not like traumatizing. I don't go to funerals, I refuse, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a.
Speaker 1:I think it's as I get older. I'm going to have to be like If I'm going to see, if I'm going to free my house in the back.
Speaker 2:I don't really go to weddings either which is just a funeral.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing.
Speaker 2:You go to wedding, that's just like someone's.
Speaker 1:Someone here is dying the death of your freedom and even if they look at someone, they're dying on the outside. They're dying on the inside.
Speaker 2:It's usually one of the bridesmaids.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:This is her sixth wedding this year. This is my sixth wedding this season and I haven't been proposed to. Yeah, I feel like I avoid weddings in funerals and to all my friends, when you die, I'm not going to be there. Just to let you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, just. I don't even want people, I don't even want to fear, I just want to burn my body, put it in the ocean, put it.
Speaker 2:I want a big wake Like I'm down with that. No. I'm down with hanging out with a bunch of people.
Speaker 1:Don't yeah, don't no. I don't want you to have to reschedule stuff, but if you're, if you're having a tough day of work and you're in your bosses like, hey, I'm going to fire you because you're not getting anything done, if it's six months later, I want you to go. I'm still sad about my friend Elon.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I want you to do that. Yeah, that's a good that's.
Speaker 2:That's what I want to be Someone's excuse, yeah.
Speaker 1:I want to be someone's like, like if you get a speedy ticket, like a month later yeah. And they're like why are you speaking like I just my friend died. I was just like I wasn't in the right headspace and the cops like I'm so sorry. I would use that, but don't go to a wake for me. I like a big wake.
Speaker 2:I'd like a big party. I'd love to see all the, but I won't get to see it.
Speaker 1:So it's like whatever, I just like to.
Speaker 2:You know, have a bunch of my friends get, get drunk, tell stories and hang out, like you know. Because what I think is is like I don't know that I could ever get all the people that I've met together, like I could call them all. I'm going to have a party at the ranch, like some of them would show up. Yeah, I feel like if I died like they all. You know what I'm going to call everybody, I'm dead.
Speaker 1:No, just like invite them to the ranch, just have a preset message Go through every one of your phone. Yeah, have a preset message and just say hey Josh, hey Matthew, hey, you like you just go through the line, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then be like your number one rule at the moment you died. The moment someone finds out you die, you just go press, send on every single one of them oh, that's good. And it just sends a message and says Look man, I just died. I don't want you to worry about it, Everything's cool, I'm dead.
Speaker 2:This is just a message.
Speaker 1:But we're having a party and I would love if you were there and then just send it to everyone and then, boom, everyone's there at the party. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I would love that because I think all the people I know being in one place together would really enjoy each other and they would be very diverse. They'd be very different people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 2:I mean like it would be. Yeah, it would be some different. I mean like you'd have some of my hood rat friends from when I was in high school. Yeah, A couple of them would probably have some prison tattoos, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then you'd have like one of these guys that, like I take quail hunting, who's like a multi-millionaire and has a private jet, yep, and they'd be like, just in the same space, just hammered crying, both with different stories. I remember, with Josh did this, I want to send this hammered crying and I want to film it before I die, yeah, and they'd be like just kidding, I'm not dead.
Speaker 1:Don't do that. This is beautiful, because then they're going to show up. They're not going to show up to the actual. I don't give a shit, I'm dead.
Speaker 2:I don't care if they show up to the real one, I'll be dead.
Speaker 1:There is a thing of people like planning their funeral and like being like who they're going to invite and none of them Like that's dumb.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is dumb. I don't want anybody who wants to be there to show up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess that's true. I'm I'm anti, so I want people to act the way I would act if I got invited to a social function.
Speaker 2:Man, you're kind of weirdo, so it's like I want people to be like like is there going to be parking?
Speaker 1:You know, like I'm like look, if I got a little parking for 10 minutes, I'm not going, I'm out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is that ballet?
Speaker 1:I want people to do that after feeling like, damn I gotta, it's going to be traffic, so I'm going to be a bitch. I don't want to go to.
Speaker 2:That Is the valet free Is the cash bar, because I'm not coming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the business and free. Is the music on? Is there going to be white people dancing? I don't want to go. That's like free entertainment. I try not to go to a place where I'd be over dancing freely. I'm like, nah, man, let's, we can do other. We can go to the music.
Speaker 2:So let's you know you've done a lot of cool stuff. You started out trout fishing, you moved into saltwater.
Speaker 1:Hmm.
Speaker 2:You shot the film with Huckberry Mm-hmm. Tell me about that film. What was that process like for you? It's called.
Speaker 1:I'll Wait here Forever. It is a culmination of three years of being being around people catching permit being on trips with people catching permit being boats where people catch permit and never catching the permit and the weights of it.
Speaker 1:I really felt when I was permit fishing that I felt and this is so dumb, but this is something I self-imposed I felt like I had to catch a permit for black people, which is so stupid. I don't know why I put this pressure on, but all these trips were like all right, we're gonna spend the week here and we have to get footage, we have to get photos, we have to get this. So it felt like pressure was like. I always felt like damn, I gotta catch a permit and when I catch a permit, it'll be like for like Obama will call me and be like thank you.
Speaker 2:You know, black people don't fish right.
Speaker 1:That's why I was like I have to catch a permit to prove not only do we fish, but we can catch this fish that everyone says it's so long to catch. And so it became like this whole thing. And then there was just a point I went on a trip to Belize and I was sitting. It was like a really bad storm and we were on stand-up paddle boards and this storm passed and I like huckered down like in these mangroves and I stormed past and I'm just by myself and the water is just like flat, like completely flat. The sun's like starting to go down and it's completely flat.
Speaker 1:And I just sat there and I was like I was just having like a lot of like identity stuff that I don't know what happened, but it was all just like culminating in that moment. I just sat there and I like started to cry a little bit and I was just like this is so, like when am I stressing out like this isn't what this is for? I don't wanna feel this way, I don't wanna do this. And then, like just sitting there, in the moment, there were like schools of permit that just like showed up and they were just like. They weren't really castable, but they were just like there and I saw them feeding and moving and I was like, like what that's like?
Speaker 1:that's it like that's. I'm not here to like do this for anyone, or even for myself, like I'm just here, like I'm just a part of it. It's either gonna happen or it's not gonna happen. It's not like this pressure of like oh you gotta do this. And for film and video it's like it gets a little different, cause you have to like get the shot and get content and all that stuff. But I was just like what am I doing here in this moment? Like how does this feel? And so then I went home after that trip and I just I had this idea of like waiting for a permit is like waiting in line at the DMV, where you're just like where you're at the DMV and you're like this sucks, like. And then you know, sometimes you're at the DMV, you see someone walk in and they walk up to the front, they get their stuff and they leave you and you're like how did that happen?
Speaker 1:And then you see the person who's just like sitting in the back with like a laptop and lunch and doing stuff and you're like how? Long are you, do you live here and so? And then there's like the DMV people. So I just had this idea of like that was just the beginning. Chasing waiting for a permit was like waiting in line at the DMV and then didn't really want. I wasn't really like trying to workshop it or do anything with people.
Speaker 1:And then Huckberry called me and were like hey we wanna do a you know a video a year with you, blah, blah blah is there anything that you have an idea for? And I was like, yeah, I kinda wanna do a carp film. And they were like, okay, cool and then.
Speaker 1:I was like I had this idea about a permit film and I just started saying the parts of the I film out loud and a couple of the jokes, and he was like oh wow, that's good, that's funny, that's good. And then was like next week, let's hop on the call. And hopped on the call and he was like do you have someone to shoot it or write it with you? And I filmed with we Are Tributaries before, which is RC Cone, okay, and I'm freaking, he's a great writer, great filmmaker. So I was like I would only do it with RC. And then RC helped me write it and he really flushed out the script and I was like these are the jokes you want, let's do it like this, let's put the story like this and really made it come to life. And then did the filming and the editing and all that stuff and it turned out because Huckberry's, an outdoor, is a clothing brand. They were not even a clothing brand, not a fishing brand they didn't want it as fishy.
Speaker 1:So we caught way more fish, but I mean way more. Not permanent, we only caught one permanent. But we caught way more fish and did more fishing. But they wanted more lifestyle stuff rather than a fishing film, which at the moment I was like that's so stupid. I wanna make a fishing film. I don't wanna make a clothing film, I don't wanna do social model stuff, I wanna do fishing stuff.
Speaker 1:And then, looking back, I'm like, actually I like it a little bit more now because it's like my grandma could watch it or a regular people can watch it and be like, oh, that's a cool thing. And be like I wonder what that is, and go look into it more and be like, oh man, this dude is fishing and it's not like the fishing porn movies where it's like slow mo, the guys show up, they wanna do a cool trip, something happens. It's the last two days or it's the last three days. They catch the fish. Everyone's freaking happy, which is how it ended up being anyway.
Speaker 1:Because we did, I caught that fish. We were leaving on Saturday. I caught that fish Friday at five pm, like we're heading back to the dock, to the lodge, and be like let's just stop right here for a second. And school permits show up. And this is after five days of blowing. I watch that video and every time I watch them just like those fucking casts suck. I'm watching my casting and I'm like and I can cast so much better now, just because I've just practiced just being on the water, because you got motivated after watching that film.
Speaker 1:You just watching my casting. It sucks. That was your passing was good. No, there's. I mean, I'm opening up loops and my wrist is like this and it's this way. Oh yeah, some breaking wrist stuff, breaking, breaking my wrist and not even using the backbone of the rod. So I'm breaking my wrist and opening it up and then like not stopping and sort of doing like this loop thing and maybe that's why you didn't catch a permit.
Speaker 1:Oh, it was ass. But I've had, trust me, I've had fish. I mean, I've had fish where I could have thrown a rock at it and hit it and still not caught them. And I've hooked up to three permit before I landed that first one in the film. Yeah, so it's just yeah, so that was the film, and it was. I think it's been well received. People laugh at parts that I don't ever expect people to laugh at. Whenever I've seen people watching it and oh, like what do you think?
Speaker 2:Tell me one that stands out. Do you have one in mind?
Speaker 1:There's a scene where I'm like standing on the boat and it's like rough waves and we're actually chasing tarpon. We were chasing like 100 pound plus tarpon that were like swimming on these reefs. But we're like standing on the waves and it's just the audio of me going oh, oh shit, oh shit. And I see the tarpon like three or four tarpons swim by and I grab. It wasn't Pio, because Pio was guiding, but I grabbed whoever was on the boat with me and I just grabbed him and like hugged his head and people laugh at that and I was like it's not fucking funny, I just missed those tarpons I just missed.
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, that is.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it's like me being like oh, like in the moment I'm like oh, and I know we're filming, but I'm like, oh, fuck, those are big ass. I would love to catch one of those tarpons.
Speaker 2:I think it's the Schad Freudian people like he's sad. That's a German word. What Schad Freudian. I think Schad Freudian yeah like the Germans, are the only one who have this word. They have a word, and Schad Freud this is. We can talk about this.
Speaker 1:I'm all ears, I think that's why people laugh.
Speaker 2:So Schad Freudian is a word in German that means to take pleasure in the pain of others. That's hella German.
Speaker 1:That's it, that's hella German. They have a whole word for that, like a whole word.
Speaker 2:But that's it right. Like somebody like I remember that part and it's like you were pretty bummed that you missed the fish and you kind of do this, so that's it.
Speaker 1:But in the film I like laugh though I like do a chuckle, it's not like oh, it's like I chuckled and then I like hold his head and I'm like and then people laugh and I was like you never really know what people will take away from him. But not that it's been well received. But I think people are like it's a new saltwater film because it's kind of scripted, it's not just like let's go film in this sick ass place.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the thing is. I like it that it's not about like it wasn't heavily about the place that you're going to Like. So many fly fishing films are like.
Speaker 1:In the middle of the Bolivian jungle? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:In the hardest place that you'll never fucking fish In the state shows yeah, it took a journey. I remember when me and my boys started to roll out whatever it's just like in a lot of it's like who gives a shit? You went somewhere far away and you fished.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, you took an Uber to the airport. That's not an adventure.
Speaker 2:But what I like is that it's different. It has a perspective, it has your perspective, it has your interpretation and it's not all about like the fishing and it doesn't have. It's not like one slow motion fish casting shot after the next slow motion fish casting shot and it's just like whatever man, I'm tired of that, I want to go do the thing. You know, that's the reason. That's why I don't really watch football. I'll watch a little bit of basketball, but like I have this thing, it's like I don't want to watch people do shit. I want to go do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I could. Yeah, well, you could probably be the quarterback for the Broncos, cause the Broncos suck, do they? Yeah, you could probably watch a little bit of the Broncos and take any of their positions.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, you know, to me it's like I like, that's why I hunt and fish is cause I want to go do the stuff out there.
Speaker 1:I want to do the thing, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so I feel like watching. If I'm watching a hunting or fishing film, I don't want it to be just about the fishing, and I also don't need another like travel tourism bureau film for some place that I probably can't even afford to go to anyways, yeah, same. So getting someone's interpretation of fishing is that close. It's much closer to us, Like when I read like one of John Garrox books, like what's cool about them is there is interpretations of fishing and his metaphors of fishing, and like that's what, that's kind of what this is.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, so people should check it out. Where can they check that out?
Speaker 1:It's on your Instagram. Yeah, it's on Instagram. I don't even know where it's buried on Instagram, cause sometimes I just post random stuff.
Speaker 2:You have only two links it's on my website, it's on your website.
Speaker 1:Go to my website, elinstriblingcom. Okay, and you can watch it there.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Or it'll click straight to my YouTube or it can watch. It's embedded on the website, so and our bunkhouse links too.
Speaker 2:What's next, what's after Texas? So we're gonna. We're gonna Quail Hunt tomorrow.
Speaker 1:We're gonna do that.
Speaker 2:We're gonna cook dove we're gonna cook, dove we got stuff lined up.
Speaker 1:We're gonna Quail Hunt cook dove.
Speaker 2:What's next for you? What are you doing?
Speaker 1:We're gonna go fish for stripers and then we're gonna go straight from the water and we're gonna drive the boat on the highway taking me to the airport. I land in Denver tomorrow at 340. And then I drive an hour. I'm gonna drive an hour straight to another show. So I'm going straight from the airport to a show because my friend's recording his album. So we're gonna go record two of his albums and then Tuesday I'm floating the Colorado. On Monday Nice. Floating the Colorado river with some friends, and then Tuesday to Sunday.
Speaker 2:I'll be in Dallas. What's your next big project? You got anything big in the works. Nothing in the works.
Speaker 1:I'm writing this carp film script. I wanna do a semi scripted film about a guy in Colorado going carp fishing. Okay, so I'm working on that, I'm just writing the script, but right now there's no projects in the work, no shoots or anything like that, just sort of hanging out.
Speaker 2:Get something going. This is a carp film.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got carp here.
Speaker 2:We should go carp fishing. I love carp fishing. You got at least 10 minutes before you have to leave for your show.
Speaker 1:My favorite fishing is tarpon bonefish. I take that back. Tarpon carp, bonefish, alpine cutthroat.
Speaker 2:Tarpon carp bonefish. The apartment's not even in there.
Speaker 1:It's not, that was the thing, and J Johnson was like. He was like, yeah, he's like I called a couple, but it's like I don't like he's like they're so soft and delicate. And I was like they are soft and delicate. You got to whisper to them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a lot of things that I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Well, you got to flirt with them where it's like tarpon or jacks. You got to. It's still a little bit of a dance, but it's like. It's like a big girl, like when she's on you, she's on you. I like tarpon, it's my, it's my favorite fish. I think I'm becoming that the tarpon, not the tarpon only guy, but the guy's just like I would go to just do a tarpon trip.
Speaker 2:Yeah, only tarpons.
Speaker 1:I would only go to just do a tarpon trip. And big ones. Someone asked me like would you rather catch like one, because I've caught some you know pretty decent sized fish, but like would you rather catch one super big one or a hundred?
Speaker 1:you know, smaller ones in a day and I'm like anywhere in between I don't care. I love tarpon they. They look cool, they fight cool, they eat. They're super pretty. I like the little fin that hangs off the back of their, their fin on the back, and I don't know what it's called and I've like looked it up on studies and some people say it's like to help with current. It's like the adipose fin of a, of a saltwater fish, but some people are like it doesn't have it has no thing, it's just a vestigial thing from when they were walking on land.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then they I feel like tarpon, reverse evolved.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so tarpon actually used to be tigers on land. And then they, so they crawled up on land became tigers and were like this shit's whack. And then they went back to the ocean and it's like killing shit. Gravity feels off. They ate gravity, so that's just their tail just sucked up to their their spine.
Speaker 2:So I freaking love my biggest tarpon. It was probably like a buck 80 and it's insane Dude like well, after the third jump, and then they stopped jumping and you know, you know, you got that fish. You're like, oh shit, yeah, Now I have to deal with this situation.
Speaker 1:Did Kayla tell you her tarpon story? No, where were you at? Oh, you don't have to say if you don't, yeah, I can't say Okay, good me, I'm not gonna say either Same. Well, kayla, I watched Kayla. I caught a fish and then Kayla hooked into a fish and she passed out fighting her tarpon. Her tarpon weighed more than her and my tarpon was. It didn't weigh more than me, but it was. It was like good size. But, she passed out during her tarpon fight.
Speaker 2:Did it get away? No, did she wake back up?
Speaker 1:Yes, so she's like fighting this fish and it's.
Speaker 1:She's been fighting it for like it's got like dehydrated 20 minutes, Sun being down, but she passed out in 20 minutes, Like though she had been fighting the fish for like 20 minutes when the sun's been down and people are like she's like this is a time where I'm like, yeah, Kayla's screaming, like I'm in and she's fighting this fish, fighting this fish, and she's standing up fighting this fish and we're fishing with 13 weights full sink. So it's a, it's a decent fish. So she's she's fighting this fish and she's like guys, I'm not, I'm not feeling so good.
Speaker 1:And so they get her a cooler. They get her like a yeti cooler. Put the cooler down and she's like sits on the cooler. So she's like OK. So she, like the fish, starts to go. So she stands back up and just like, goes, like, goes limp, like, goes, like straight limp and someone grabs her and is like holding her and the rod to her.
Speaker 1:Oh, she like wakes back up and she's like and then, and then like a cow rills it in, like, fights the fish, gets it and gets it in, puts on like a little floaty thing and then gets in the water. And they're like take a picture with the fish and she's like bobbing in the water with this giant tarpon next to her, and she's not really, she's just exhausted because it's like it's a fight, yeah, and so she's just like bobbing with the fish. But she, she casted, jumped that fish, passed out, landed it.
Speaker 2:That's pretty bad. Let it go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's pretty sweet, so I was like it was. It was one of the moment. You see a lot of people who can't really fish, who show that they can fish or pretend to fish. Yeah, I was like OK, looking like fish yeah she can fish.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had probably like a 30 minute fight.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think, once you learn to stuff them and play them.
Speaker 2:it gets a little bit easier on that. I was on that trip and I was out with a good friend of mine and he was guiding me and I it was the first time I ever got seasick.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:And there was freaking tarpon everywhere. And so I'm seasick, matthew's on the boat and like I am like first I feel a little queasy and then I'm like no dude, so I go off the back and I just puke everywhere off the back of the pool and then I get like a towel. I just wet it in salt water and it was hot out and I just like I had three towels over the top of me and I'm in fetal position in the middle of the boat. My buddy's like hey, you want to go back in? Like fuck, no, there's tarpon man, and then?
Speaker 2:like it said, and he'd be like OK, we got a shot on these. They're like right off the thing and I would like throw all the towels off me and I get up and I get back out on the boat and I pick up that, that, the rod, and like, just go after it, hook up a tarpon. No seasickness. Like he's gone, like I'm all fucking adrenaline. I'm just like I'm going to fight a fish. Maybe land it, maybe not, maybe it gets off. About 10 minutes after I'm like OK, drink water. I hammer as much water as I possibly could while I was feeling good and then, like 10, 15 minutes, I was like whoa see see.
Speaker 2:I'm like lay down in the middle of the boat. Again, we did that all afternoon. Really, and I refused to go. There's fish.
Speaker 1:I was like yeah, you can't go in, you can't. I had so tarpon he'll all ailments, if you don't know that.
Speaker 2:Apparently. Yeah, I know, I've seen, I felt it. I had three eats on one cast that day, like that's a three, three, like I had one that ate coming straight on and there was nothing I could do. This is just like a straight on eat, there was nothing. And then I had a second one, t bone it and like jump and lost it on the jump and I and I pulled it in and then like I had I don't know how big that fish was. It was so big, like that fish ate, like right beside the boat. I saw it. It was massive and it took off and it was so big that it couldn't get but just its heads out of the water. When it went to jump it looked like a sea cow like and then like went down and then like in 30 seconds it like spooled me out. Yeah, and like when I reel back in, like the line was melted, like it melted the freaking line.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm fine, that gives me goose bumps. And now I'm. I was listening to you being like damn, when can I go on a tarpon trip?
Speaker 2:Let's go tarpon fishing.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, please, I will, I will clear.
Speaker 2:I will clear schedule. I mean you and me and Kayla should go tarpon fishing. I will, I'll do it in the heart.
Speaker 1:I'll do it in the heartbeat. I, the greatest, one of my greatest tarpon eats my only my greatest tarpon eat is fishing off the boat. Same sort of thing that bunch of fish cruising and we had like seen them coming from pretty far away and then they like went down and I could, like I was looking off the end of the boat just like seeing the fish go under just long dark shadows and just seeing them cruising, and so a cast and I let it sink and I'm stripping, I'm stripping and this fish comes up and the flies like coming toward towards me and the fish is behind it.
Speaker 2:I was like huh, huh, huh.
Speaker 1:And I was like, and the fish dips down and I was like, fuck, he's going to go, he's going to go away. And it dips down, comes up and around to catch the head of the fly, and so I see the fish, like when he eats it. It like eats it from the side and like rolls its body down. And it was like that scene in Godzilla, you know, like when he looks down into the manhole and you just see like the swims underneath.
Speaker 2:That was all I saw.
Speaker 1:And it was just like that, was like one of those.
Speaker 2:I was like this is insane.
Speaker 1:This is so cool.
Speaker 2:And that was probably I don't know.
Speaker 1:that was probably like my six or seven tarpon that I like saw cast to and like hooked into and saw, but that was like the greatest eat Like I could. I could play that memory in the back of my head for the rest of my life, over and, over and over and over.
Speaker 2:Those are the things I don't feel like. Those are the things and I, I don't know it just can it connects you. I feel connected to something bigger than me. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Now, now, and even now, I'm like now I care a lot more, and it's as shitty as this, maybe not as shitty, but I'm like now I care a lot more about salt water, because it's like I I I want other people to see this thing. I want other people to experience not even fishing for them, but just like see these, see these fish yeah, and it's so, it's, they belong there and they're so freaking cool. And I've seen them with dolphins and I've seen them in mangroves and smaller ones and yeah, they're just, it was just so cool, yeah. Well, let's face it.
Speaker 2:We live in a world where it has been a lot of people's connection to outdoor spaces. We've been becoming more and more removed, yeah, from nature, and I think the pandemic like pushed a lot of people back towards it. Yes, in a in a good way. Yeah, but even even still, there's a huge portion of the population, and particularly younger generation, that don't care about being outside.
Speaker 1:No, they just look at a video on Instagram with a popular audio.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or people who you see, who go out there and they're fishing to to get the photos. That's what they're there for and that's that's tough. I understand that getting the photos and I'm I mean, we're out there and we're catching photos, but it's definitely not why.
Speaker 1:I got out there. It's not the purpose of going out there, it's a to me. It's like maybe not even a byproduct. It's like, if I get it, if it's good for, if it happens for me and the fish in that moment it happens yeah. If it doesn't, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:I would say like 70% of my outdoor pursuits are not, are not captured even it's about 30%, and I really, to me it's capture them so I can show them to other people to inspire yeah, that's all that it's about is like, how can I inspire you to go out there and do this thing? You know, and we didn't even get into the concept of of inspiring and diversifying the outdoors and what all that looks about, and I don't. I think it's like a whole nother podcast.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, so we'll just do that tomorrow after we quail hunt. Yeah, we'll do that, we'll go right in between strikers, We'll see the sun right, the the eclipse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll see the eclipse. Then we're going to go to the Spurs game in the morning and then go fishing.
Speaker 2:I'm going to hook up with that woman's husband.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you're in Austin and you're just looking, just do comedy once and I'll tell you when this lady is going to be at a show and she'll give you tickets to the Spurs game with her husband. You may have to banger her husband, but he's a handsome devil. I mean, that's all subjective. It's either yes or no. You know we talked about can we talk about that? We can talk about anything, because we did.
Speaker 2:we were in the car the other day. Oh, I want to get your, I want to, I want your final ruling on this. So, like when I was in college is like oh, that person's a five, a six, a seven, yeah, we all do that.
Speaker 1:I think I'm a soft, seven, soft, seven Soft seven, soft seven.
Speaker 2:I'm a hard eight. I'm a hard six, hard six.
Speaker 1:Hard six, soft seven.
Speaker 2:So I think it's like you know, when you're like, you're just like everybody does, that they say. Oh that's a perfect 10 or whatever, which doesn't exist. No, I feel like it's binary. Yeah, it's over one or zero. Yes, it's. I would or I wouldn't. Yes or no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then people try to make it circumstantial.
Speaker 2:I did that.
Speaker 1:They'll say oh, but it feels like it feels the last guy in Austin.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:People be like Okay, then I would, we'll send, like, then you would, that's a yes. So it's a yes, that's it. It's like, oh, if it's four, am and I haven't, you know, hooked up with a girl in two years and you know, is she attractive? No, but I just, I don't want to be alone. So it's a yes. Yeah so she is a yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So there's, it's not. Oh, if this happens, it's like it's either a yes or no.
Speaker 2:Yes or a no. Last person on the planet. Yes, so you're saying I got a check? Yeah, so it's like so I also feel like that's. Is it like just to come back to this spurs game you were going to? I mean, I feel like that was like a trap of some sort, like yeah, you know, like, and, and so here's the thing is, like I told you you should just just send a message and say let's just get to the point I might send it just out of boredom, am I going to get?
Speaker 2:canceled. Canceled, probably killed or stuck in a weird three way. Rather get killed and canceled.
Speaker 1:Because it's I mean, if, if red is like go go with my husband cause. I don't want to go yeah.
Speaker 2:So I can drink wine. Does he suck? Yeah, it's like why?
Speaker 1:why don't you want to spend? Time with them, but I'm like okay, maybe she doesn't like sports, but then she's like, so I can get drunk, like that's sort of like flirting to me Like so. I get drunk and do my tech Like I don't need to know that information. Yeah, you could have been like, cause I don't want to go and I'd be like cool, and I'm like, oh, so now you're going to tell me when we come back to the place you're going to be drunk.
Speaker 2:And do intact and have done the taxes.
Speaker 1:Clothes or not, like what.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know man. It's weird, that's that whole thing is weird, but I mean, it's also could just be.
Speaker 1:You're in Texas, so it could just be very nice and I'm also in Austin, which is just a weird place because it's Texas, but it's so not Texas, but it is Texas.
Speaker 2:You, but you were in Austin, but they want you to go to a game in San Antonio. Oh, that's like a whole other city.
Speaker 1:How far away is it from Austin to San Antonio? Eight hour? Oh, I'm not driving now with a fucking stranger. That's not even think about that. For some reason I was like oh, it's just in Austin, but I'm not going to drive an hour to another city in Texas with a strange man while his wife does taxes at home. I'm not fucking doing it. You've lost your mind, lady. Don't you ever send me a message like that again. We've come to the bottom of your zero. There's no circumstance where I'm banging you or your husband.
Speaker 2:Oh man, well, you did get on a plane to go fish for trout, so that is true. My advice to her would you like to go tarp and fishing with my husband?
Speaker 1:I'd be like when she told me when and where, and I will show up.
Speaker 2:And the best part is she could have been like would you like to go tarp and fishing with my husband in the San Antonio River?
Speaker 1:Yes, sure, wouldn't have known, I would have been like the San Antonio River.
Speaker 2:I've never heard of that salt flat, it sounds like a salt flat it sounds fucking sick. Do they eat the fish eat? I'm there, Elon. Thanks for being here, man.
Speaker 1:Josh, thanks for having me. I'm glad this place actually exists and I can't wait to come back.
Speaker 2:I hope you come as many times as you would like Shit.
Speaker 1:It got loose there. Yeah, no, this I can't wait. The next year. I told my girl and I we want to come back for the Texas and first Texas Christmas. I think that would be really, really fun. And, yeah, I really really enjoyed this place. I was just walking around the other night just being like this is the life I want to live, just in the woods.
Speaker 2:Well, come down, let's do. Let's go fishing, though. Let's go to the coast, let's like. Do not like as many shows as you did this time.
Speaker 1:Let's plan fishing. If we plan fishing first, I can plan shows after fishing Awesome. But if I plan shows after, everything else comes let's do one at the ranch. A show. Yeah, oh easy I can actually get some awesome comics to come and like also be a part of the show, like on the ranch, let's yeah, I don't even think I've heard of anybody doing that.
Speaker 2:Let's do like I do.
Speaker 1:On, not on a ranch. But I've taken my friends up to Carbondale and we've done it in like just someone's backyard next to the river. Let's do comedy. Ranch, texas edition that sounds like a sex place. Also, even with ranch sounds like a sex place. I know what lady has got spares. I would bite her.
Speaker 2:I'm like you, bring your husband to this ranch in the middle of nowhere. Look how the tables are.
Speaker 1:And I'll eyeball you guys and say yes or no, one or zero, one or zero baby. Till next time, buddy. Bye, nair, see you later.