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Discovering Your True Self Through Human Design with Dana Phillips
Today my guest Dana Phillips from the podcast Human Design Hive joins the conversation and shares all about Human Design. If you have never heard of Humand Design before or you want to know more about your type, this is a must-listen.
Dana is a Human Design teacher and intuitive guide, and she shares her knowledge on this transformative system. Discover how this approach combines elements of astrology, the Enneagram, and Myers-Briggs to decode your "energetic DNA" and guide you toward authenticity. Throughout our discussion, Dana explains the essence of Human Design, its five unique types, and the profound impact understanding this system can have on personal development and overcoming fears.
For more on Human Design, listen to Dana's Podcast, Human Design Hive and if you want to know more about your type and your unique chart, visit her website.
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super excited that you know we're going to talk about that today, if you have any interest at all in any kind of like personality, uh, typing or testing, you know, if you've been looking at your, your astrology, your, you know sun sign, or maybe people are into the enneagram or even myers-briggs any of these things that are increasingly popular that people are looking for to find out, like, who am I and what makes me tick and why do I do the things you do, I do. And when I tell you that this system is the ultimate system that encompasses all of that, it truly is.
Speaker 1:Welcome to Paradise Perspectives. I'm Rizal, the traveling island girl, and I'm here to help you start living your best life, no matter where you're at, whether you're dreaming of traveling to exotic destinations, starting a business or even making big life changes, this is the place for you. From the beaches of the caribbean to your own backyard, we'll explore how to shift your mindset, find your purpose and take bold steps towards the life you deserve. So grab your favorite drink and let's dive into some real talk about living your best life, one sunny day at a time. Boy oh boy, are you in for a treat? Today, my friend Dana Phillips is joining the conversation. Hey, welcome to another episode of Paradise Perspectives, the podcast. That is all about your personal growth, changing your mindset for the better, getting over your fears and, of course, travel, because, well, life without travel is just dull now, isn't it? Have you ever heard about human design before? If you haven't, that's okay, because you are so going to love this episode, and if you have, you're still going to love it.
Speaker 1:Dana Phillips is a human design teacher. She's a mentor and intuitive guide, and she is also the host, along with her daughter Haley, of the podcast Human Design Hive. So today she is going to introduce us to human design and the five different types. Let me not keep you in suspense for too long. Here's my conversation with Dana. Take a listen.
Speaker 1:The subject of today's show is human design. Now, if you have never heard of human design before, don't worry about it. I got you, dana's got you. We are going to dive deep into what it is and what it means to you, and how human design can play a role in you starting to live your best life. So in the virtual studio today, dana Phillips Dana, I am so, so happy that you're here. You are, of course, the podcast host. You are the host of the podcast Human Designed Hive and you do that with your daughter. So welcome to the show, welcome to Paradise Perspectives. I'm so, so happy that you could make the time, and I'm so excited to kind of like dive into one of my new favorite subjects, which is human design. So I'm gonna give the microphone to you, so to say. Why don't you introduce yourself to the listener and tell us a little bit about who you are and how you got into this super interesting topic?
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, riz, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. We always have a good time talking. I had you on my podcast this past spring, I think it was, and we had such a good time. So I'm so excited to be here to talk to your audience and talk to them about human design because it is my absolute passion and I now believe it's my calling in life to get this information out into the world.
Speaker 2:But yes, my name is Dana Phillips. I am a human design teacher, mentor, intuitive guide. As you said, I have a podcast, a human design hive podcast, with my daughter Haley and it really started. The podcast was a format for me, one to just start talking about human design because I feel like it's so transformative for people and really getting to know themselves, because it's certainly done that for me and I just needed to talk about it. My daughter just wants to start a podcast. So really the format as it started. It's evolved but was kind of in a teaching format in the way of just taking someone who knew nothing about human design. But it's just curious and kind of, you know, talking about it, because probably the first question people are having right now is what the heck is human design.
Speaker 1:Exactly, that was the first thing when I first heard about it. It was the, it was the same thing. It's like what is it, you know? So, yeah, I'm so happy that you're here and you're kind of like, and you're, like you said, a teacher in human design, which is great, because now you can actually tell us a little bit more about it. I I have to say, though, that the first time that I heard about it and found out what my human design type is, that I got completely obsessed with it. It has completely changed the way that I do and think, and you know. So, yeah, super excited that we're going to talk about that today.
Speaker 2:If you have any interest at all in any kind of like personality typing or testing, you know, if you've been looking at your, your astrology, your, you know, sun sign, or maybe people are into the Enneagram, or even Myers Briggs, any of these things that are increasingly popular, that people are looking for to find out, like who am I and what makes me tick and why do I do the things you do, I do. And when I tell you that this system is the ultimate system that encompasses all of that, it truly is, and so what it is is, it is a framework, a system that does show you like who you truly are and who you came here to be, and it's really the ultimate tool to guide you towards, you know, becoming your most authentic self and really creating that life that you love. And so it's referred to by the creator well, not the creator, but the person who received this information at first as the science of differentiation, and I just I love that because it tells us and shows us how incredibly unique each and every one of us is. And so it is a synthesis of these different ancient modalities that have people have been using for centuries, like the, like Western astrology, the Chinese I Ching, the Hindu chakra system, the Judaic Kabbalah and a little sprinkling of quantum science, they say, in there. So it's this synthesis that all these things have been in practice, you know, throughout the millennia of people digging into what it means to be human, what it makes us different, what makes us tick. You know, all these different things that have now in this one system they're kind of layered on top of each other creates this different viewpoint of it that really shows you your unique energetic DNA, like it shows how you are wired, and so it is.
Speaker 2:What sets it apart from a lot of these other personality typing things is that it's not objective or not subjective. It's like you know, if you take a Myers-Briggs test, you're answering it based on, like, what you think right About yourself or what you'd like to be. You know you're like oh yes, I'm cause I've done it, I've taken it, and there's definitely some correlations there to your human design chart, but really it's not, I think not a true representation, because it's going through the filter of your mind of what you think about yourself or what you'd like to be. This is based on, just like astrology it's based on your birth time, date and place. And so it is this energetic snapshot the moment you were born, layered with another calculation that is roughly three months before you're born.
Speaker 2:And so they create this kind of thing that you can well create something called the body graph, which looks weird when you first look at it, but that's my job is to help people understand it. That shows you kind of what your conscious and unconscious motivations are. It shows you what your unique gifts and talents are. It shows you how you are designed to interact with the world around you, the role you came here to play, and it. It can just go so, so deep, but you don't need to know all of it.
Speaker 2:Start benefiting it for a lot, like you said. Excuse me, so that's the overall.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I just.
Speaker 1:And then I think that's what I loved about it and that's why I became so interested in it as well, cause when I found out what my type is, I just, I was just, I was reading this and I was like, oh my God, that is me, like literally that is me, and I completely understood why it was that I was acting in certain way, why I was behaving in certain ways in different situations, and why I was so impulsive, or I am so impulsive, you know. So that actually cleared a lot of stuff for me. Knowing what type I am helps me now in making decisions in my entrepreneurship. So, you know, when it comes to business decision, there's a lot of things that I always felt like a deep send of dread around it, and now I know why that is. So it helped clear up a lot of things for me, knowing what human design type I am.
Speaker 1:So I am a manifesting generator and I was just wondering if somebody was born, let's say, because I was born on the 4th of April, if somebody else was born on the 4th of April, if somebody else was born at at on the 4th of April, at a different time than I was at the same year, but just a couple of hours before or after. Would they have the same um type or would they still be different?
Speaker 2:Well, in your case, um, so it is dependent on you know, like I said, the location of all the different planets in the, in the, in our universe, and there for your particular design. It could be that someone would also be a manifesting generator if they were born around the same place as you, mainly because the calculation in your particular chart is what makes you a manifesting generator. What creates definition in your chart is the North and South node placements and those planets, those placements stay there for a couple of months at a time. So it is possible. However, there's so many other aspects in your chart that would be completely different if someone was born at a different time, or even say you know where.
Speaker 2:let's say you were born, uh, in curacao, right, and so you know if they, they were born in miami, or even you know, uh, california, or you know, belgium, where you are right now. It's just like it. So many things could be different and that's that's the beauty of it, because it's it's so layered. And and you mentioned being a manifesting generator, I'm a generator. There are, you know, overarching. There's only five main types and they are manifestor generator, manifesting generator, projector and reflector, and these are really the they call the high level aspects that just knowing this part of your chart, like you said, helped you understand so much.
Speaker 2:Because as a manifesting generator, you are someone who is designed to move a little bit faster than other people. You're um designed. Your energy works best when it is busy, when it's engaged. It needs lots of different things kind of happening all at the same time different side projects or interest, and you just kind of follow that and especially your configuration, your wiring. It's a very fast paced thing sometimes. Sometimes like you could be, like up and moving and doing something before, like your body will move, sometimes before your brain does.
Speaker 2:But yeah, and a lot of times, but, like you said, a lot of you know this, some of the things you just described about how you've perceived yourself before knowing this information is very common for manifesting generators because, you know, our world tells us that we have to pick one thing. We have to stick with it. We got to see it through to the end. We exactly. You know we can't be all over the place. We've got to have one calling and you're simply not designed that way, and really about 35 of the population is just like you in that regard. They're not designed to do that. I'm not designed to that. I'm more slow and steady pace, which has definitely been my journey in life, but, um, and so it like relieves you from a lot of these things that you've been telling yourself. You know that there's something wrong with you and that society has been instilling in us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because we take that in. There's something wrong with me, because I just can't do it the way other people do it. But you know me too, and that's why I love human design so much like I said yeah, me too.
Speaker 1:I agree. It's so nice to actually. It's almost like you're getting the permission that you've been looking for to be who you are, and that's what I love about it. But let's, you just said the different types. Let's go over them a little bit. Just, you know, generally speaking, about who or what each type represents. So there's five types, like you said, and the manifesting generator, the generator Generator, the Generator. There is the Manifestor, and I'm always forgetting the other two Projector and Reflector. Correct, okay, so let's start with. Well, we've said a little bit about what is called Manifesting Generator but let's talk a little bit about Generator's.
Speaker 2:Start with generator, all right. So, um, the generator type is um, between. So manifesting generators and generators are essentially, at the fundamental level, the same type is, which is like this generator type. Okay, and what that means is in your chart. If you were to get your human design chart, which I should say, you can go to my website, humandesignhivecom and enter your information right now, download your chart and you can follow along. Just pause this and then pick it up.
Speaker 1:So you'll, so you'll know what type you are for sure.
Speaker 2:It'll tell you. It'll print out a report and I'll tell you exactly what your type is. You don't have to read the chart, but you can look at it and, if you are looking, go ahead. Are you going to say something?
Speaker 1:Oh yes, there was something that I wanted to say, since you mentioned that you know we can go to humandesignhivecom and get our chart, which is brilliant, by the way. Thank you for having that online. What are the things that somebody needs? In order to what is, what is the information that they need in order to put that in to get their? You'll just need your time.
Speaker 2:If you have it, it's important to have your time of birth, obviously, date of birth and place of birth, city, state and country and if it, it'll have a drop down list for your location as you start typing. If you don't see exactly the city where you were born, just the nearest like municipality, biggest area, you can find, but it's pretty comprehensive, the software that I use of finding that. And so also to note AM or PM, that's important. If you don't know your birth time exactly, if you say, well, I, I, I've heard I was born at somewhere between six and seven, 38 AM, that's fine. Just put it in approximation there and generally you will get a enough of a overarching. You know type.
Speaker 2:But if it doesn't resonate with you, you can always, you know, reach out to me. A lot of times you're when you first see it doesn't resonate some things. But if you don't feel it's just right, you can always reach out to me and I can try running some different you know times to see if anything really major changes like your type throughout the day, because it is dependent on you know times to see if anything really major changes like your type throughout the day. Um, because it is dependent on. You know, the planets are always moving, everything's always going, so things like the moon and some of the smaller planets can create even the sun moving through. Different parts of the chart can be different. So but really, if you have all that information and um, you can enter that in and it enter that in and you can run multiple reports and storm and everything. So charts, not reports, and so I lost my train of thought. Generators right.
Speaker 1:No, we were talking about generators, but just before we go into that again, because you're saying that you know, once you're talking, there's so many things that come up that I want to ask about. And that is like, of course, if somebody wants to have their chart read by you, they can always reach out and book a session with you, and that will, of course, exactly.
Speaker 1:So. That will, of course, go a little deeper than just what you get at first when you just put it into this system that you have on your website. Now, the good thing about having your chart read is that it can go a little bit more in-depth, and I have found out that even when you found it free online, there is a lot of stuff in there that you cannot really understand exactly what it means, like, for instance, the numbers that come in after I'm a manifesting generator six, two. You know all of that is like, even though all of those free websites out there try their best to kind of like identify that and tell you exactly what those numbers mean. It's always so much better to have your chart read by somebody like Dana that can then explain to you exactly what those numbers mean and what, because this human design stuff goes so much deeper than just your type, the numbers, et cetera.
Speaker 1:It can go like really deep. So it's definitely something that you want to have. You want to sit down with somebody who knows about it. You can find help. No, definitely not. No, but you know, the thing is that I find this interesting is that it is exactly that. It is super interesting to know more. It's almost like if it's describes you, you know, when you get your chart read, it describes you to the T, and so I cannot imagine anybody not wanting to go a little bit more in depth into it.
Speaker 2:I have never yeah I've never really had a reading with someone where they were just like, nope, that's not me at all, I mean.
Speaker 2:I mean I would say most of the time, you know there might be some like you know, kind of like not really wanting to believe it yet, but essentially what I can help do when you're looking at your chart is kind of show you like everything you really wanted to believe about yourself, or that your soul has felt deep within you, is true about you, is true, has felt deep within you, is true about you, is is true. And we have just taken on layers of conditioning, um, which I think is just part of the human experience. It's not a fault of anyone, it's just how this whole, um, you know, classroom of life here on earth is. Is we, you know, we come in forgetting everything that is divine and beautiful about us, and we have to start pulling away those layers as we get older and dig into who we are. And you and I have spent a lot of time doing this.
Speaker 2:I have been on this path, I feel, like my whole life of trying to figure myself out, but really started getting deep into it in my mid-30s, did the whole route of like, trying so hard to like, fix myself and find out what's wrong with myself, and there was a lot of work done there, but when I finally found this.
Speaker 2:I was just like, oh my God, this can make it so much easier, because a lot of people don't want to do that work. A lot of people don't want to go that deep. You know they just, they just want to get. You know, they just want to feel better. They just want to feel like they're more in control of their life and and the decision making. They want to trust themselves more. And you know this can still do that. You can go deep, like me, if you want to cause I really like to go deep or you can just like take the pieces that you need and it can dramatically improve your experience in life. So let's get back to the types. Let's do that, so we yes, let's do the types so that the listener can understand a little bit better.
Speaker 1:Also, you know, since I hope that by now you have your chart in front of you and you know at least which type you are. So, dana, okay, take it from here. Let's start with generator. Okay, so the generator types.
Speaker 2:Like I said, it's really, if we're talking about the energetics and what we're looking at on the chart, um is really going to encompass those uh generators and manifesting generators because it's determined by one of the um. You'll see all these shapes on your human design chart. There's going to be these nine geograph or not geographic these nine shapes like squares and triangles and stuff which are representing. This is part of that chakra, part of the of the system it's. It's representing these energy centers in your energetic makeup, presenting these energy centers in your energetic makeup. So there's going to be one that's called the sacral center, which on your chart it's the second square up from the bottom. And so your centers on your chart, when you see it, are either going to be colored in or they're going to be white. Colored in means they're defined. If they are white, it means they are undefined. That's all I'm going to say about that. So if you are a generator or manifesting generator type, that sacral center, that second square up, is defined because it's colored in. So what that means we're going to talk specifically about this generator type is the sacral center is the center that governs life force, energy. It is what we call chi prana. You know it is this sustainable, always on motor of energy within your energetic system that, you know, when it's defined, it means we always have access to this energy, and so generators are the doers in the world, they're the builders. That's what we're designed to do. This is the role we play, is that we are the ones that have built the world around us because we have the sustainable energy.
Speaker 2:There is a caveat. There is that really, the building and the doing that we're supposed to be engaged in is things that light us up, and this motor, this energy center, responds, and it, you know, it's like when things come at it in life. People ask it yes or no questions. It is very, it's a primal, just in your body, feeling yes or no. Is this for me? Is this for me, yes, is it? You know? Do you want to eat Thai food? Yes, do you want to go to the beach today? No, like. These are the things that this center in your body and if you are a generator type, this is both generators and manifesting generators. If you start exploring how you respond to things in that way, you find that well, when people just ask me yes or no question, it's so much easier for me to know what I need, whereas if they open those open-ended questions, you're like I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know what I want to eat today. It's like, yeah, I'm hungry but I don't know. So I call it my full body, yes, and my full body, no. It's a complete. It's like from within. It's like you know what you want and what you do not want. You know the yes, you know the no. It's just those open-ended questions, like you said.
Speaker 2:And this is something that we are born with as generator types, and these are the children that you know, maybe yourself, when you were a child, you, you know, maybe told to use your words, because a lot of times when they asked you things, it was like you know or you know. It's because this, this center, has its own awareness of what's correct. For you it's. It's not logical thinking mind, it is in the body and, like you said it, for you it's a-bodied. Yes, for me I do feel kind of expansive in that chest and belly region and just the you know. On the other side, when it's a no, it's a no that comes like in my face.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I'm just like yeah, you know, it's literally like it's a definite no, and so the reason is that is because this energy that we carry is so big. Like it, you know, the aura type of someone as a generator or manifest generator is what they call this enveloping aura type. So if you imagine, around the both of us, it's this very expansive, almost like hug that people are drawn to. Because that's what our aura type, that's how our energy is meant to function. It is open, it is enveloping.
Speaker 2:Because we need things, we need people, we need experiences to come to us, to give us something to respond to, to know if that is the direction we want to go or if that's the person we want to be involved with, or if that's where we want to spend our money. Like you know, these are the things that it's meant to do, because when we are engaged, it is like we've got the power to keep going. Okay and um, you know, if it's something that you're really lit up by, you'll dedicate yourself all your energy to it. Really lit up by, you'll dedicate yourself all your energy to it physical energy, mental energy and you could exhaust yourself.
Speaker 1:Get up the next day and do it all over again. It is literally the epitome of following your bliss Absolutely. It lights you up, completely, lights you up. Now the difference. Absolutely, I agree.
Speaker 2:So I'd like to say generator. So before we go to manifesting generator, I'd like to talk about the manifestor part, because the manifesting generator is kind of a hype. They say a hybrid, but it's just so. So that's the generator type. This sacral center is defined. So manifestor type, which is, is only about 9% of the population. They're they are much smaller part of the population. Their sacral center, like we talked about, is undefined, so it would be white on the chart. But then they're going to have what we call so like. The sacral center is a motor. There's a couple of different motor centers in the chart. They will have a configuration that gives some kind of energy directly to their throat center. So they'll have, like this direct connection to their throat, which is just like in the chakra system. It is the center for communication, manifestation, all these things. It's how we get our what's, our expression out into the world Right.
Speaker 2:And so manifestors are designed to initiate, they are designed to get the ball rolling. They don't have to respond to life, they don't need other people to help them get into action, because they have their own unique, nonverbal kind of direct communication to the muse, the divine, whatever you want to call it that when the time is right, they can. They can't even explain it. Like I said, it's nonverbal. They just kind of know when they want to do something, know when they want to get something started, want to get into action. You know, they tend to just kind of be sort of these people that are maybe sometimes less approachable because their, their, their aura is more closed, because it's for themselves. They need to have this kind of space where they can get into action when they want to and they are here, like I said, to initiate others. So when they get into action it gives the generator types something to respond to.
Speaker 2:So that's how you can start to see how it all kind of moves and because they do not have a defined sacral energy center. That means that they're not really designed to work in that nine to five fashion. They work in shorter bursts. They can get a lot done. They're really here to get everybody like energized or get the project off the ground and then hand it off Like that's. Their role of genius is to really just honor their own process and know that they're not necessarily going to push it across the finish line. That's not what they're here to do. They're here to just kind of follow that that um undefinable inner guidance that they have. And so that's the manifesto type, because they, if they push too hard and they try to bring it across the finish line and they try to do all the things, since they do not have that sustainable energy, they can burn out really fast and it can be very hard to recover from that. So that's the manifesto. So obviously you say manifesting generator. So okay, how does that work? Well, that means manifest generator, your generator type.
Speaker 2:You respond to life, you have that sacral center defined, you have that ability to work and build and do. But then you also have a direct connection to that manifestation and communication center in your chart. So that means that, yes, you have to respond to things, but once you do, you can get into action fast. That's like we talked about. With your particular configuration, you have a direct line from that sacral center to your communication center, so you can get into action fast and start making things happen. But it's important that you respond first, because you don't want to get into action on the things that aren't right for you. You're not meant to. You're not even though you have that energy. You're not meant to initiate first. You're meant to respond first and then get into action. That makes sense, okay.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that makes total sense, as I've made so many decisions that I just completely went in it headfirst and then, kind of when I once I dove in, I was like this is not exactly what I wanted? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:And that is really the thing for generators both of us manifesting generators is that, because we're meant to respond to life, we get in our heads and we think, wait a minute, what if I don't have anything to respond to? We start operating out of fear and we're like but I have to do this thing, this has to happen. We start creating our own stories about how it should be. We start creating our own stories about how it should be, and so we initiate or we respond to the wrong things that we're like. Well, this seems like a good opportunity and it makes sense on paper, even though your whole body is like don't do it.
Speaker 2:You don't want to take that job.
Speaker 1:But you can even have like full body yeses in the moment, and I think that is another thing that I learned of being a manifesting generator is that I have those full body yeses in the moment, but then, as soon as I have a little bit of time and I am on my own and my thoughts come into play, I'm like, no, not that comfortable with that idea after all, so very, very impulsive. The manifesting generator that is something that I found out, which really I am. I mean, that's me, that's the description of me completely. Now, we've had so far the manifesting generator, the generator and the manifester, so now let's go over to the two others that I don't hear that much about.
Speaker 2:Actually, the reflector and projector yeah, projector is where we'll go next, because if we see about, you know, manifestors get the ball rolling. Generators help bring it into form, into life, and they build it. Now the projector type is about 20 of the population and they build it. Now the projector type is about 20% of the population and they are often referred to as the guides and managers, and so it doesn't have to be that specific, like a job, but. But projectors are the type that, like manifestors, they have an undefined sacral center, so they also, um, are uh, don't have that inexhaustible, you know, access to sustainable energy. They can certainly pick it up and they can use it from others, but it's not theirs, um, but projectors are designed towards, um, managing others, in the sense that their aura type really I heard it described just yesterday was I hadn't heard it this way and I really like it it's more like a bow and arrow, it's like pull back and it's right, directed to the other person. They do great one-on-one with people. A lot of people who are coaches and in that field tend to well, you'll see, a lot of them may be projectors in that sense, because they really are focused on the other, on the person right in front of them because their energy really taps into the heart of whoever it is this person needs to do to maximize their energy. And really in the original teachings of human design, it was like projectors were here to help guide the generators in how to use their energy. Because we have so much energy and we can go and we can do all these things, but they could help us see, well, you know you're, you're you, you've done this and you're gone this way, but maybe it might be better use of your energy to you know, shift this way or look at this, you know thing. So they do make great like guides and managers and project management. It's great for project. That's what my, my daughter was an accountant, but she also really enjoys like being able to see the overall thing. They're great at seeing the big picture and systems and knowing how everything works, because they are this energy type that is a little newer on the planet of helping us shift away from this output just for, just for, what's the word? So I'm starting to tap into, I'm trying to find the words for it. You understand this.
Speaker 2:Generators have not been using their energy in general on the planet for themselves. All in this system where there is this top-down hierarchy of one person or a group of people decide how the rest of us work. Right, we're moving away from that. I mean, I think it's pretty clear we're moving away from that. We're moving more towards this synarchy, they call it, which is more of groups of people understanding how to work together to bring things into the world.
Speaker 2:And projectors can help guide us as individuals where our parts are, where we're best used, how we can do that. They have incredible deep wisdom and knowledge and insights that can really. They're here to help usher in how we use our energy, because projectors can, like, get more done in a very short timeframe than most people, because their energy is precious. They're not meant to work nine to five either. They don't have that sustainable energy and so they're very keen to how energy works.
Speaker 2:And unfortunately, most projectors, before they hear this knowledge and gain an understanding of it, they don't. They think they're generator types. They think they are people who are just go, go, go, go go, because they're picking up the energy around them and they're so attuned to it and they burn out really easily. But when they find out that they're not meant to do that, that they have to, like their energy is precious and it should be valued, it should be recognized, and then, when it is, it's just like the impact that they can have is incredible and um. So they are a little more rare, but they're definitely. I'm finding more and more and more in the world. I'm surrounded by projectors in my life. They can guide me out. They're my daughter's one, my friends.
Speaker 1:I have several friends that are projectors and so they're very yeah, the projector type is actually almost like they're more patient when you compare them to. You know the impatience of the generators. I find it enthusiasm. I think you know, I think.
Speaker 2:I can always tell, like when I notice, not always always tell. I can tell the difference now, knowing this about projectors and my type as a generator. They are the people that when you talk to them I tend to fill up space around them, sometimes because I'm like they're not responding. What am I saying? You know like I'm still like talking because they're just sitting there looking at me and they're they're listening, they don't interrupt, they just wait until I'm done, and then they, and then they speak and I'm like. So when I started putting that pattern together, it's not everybody, but you know the people I know I'm like, oh, okay, that's, that's that different Cause we're so excited and our energy is like we're enthusiastic. Yeah, we're always like. You know, it's just like we're excited. You know we're meant to be excited by life and they're meant to help us like okay, honey, just pause. Are you taking care of yourself? Are you really using your energy correctly?
Speaker 2:yes, those are yeah, which is why they make for perfect life coaches?
Speaker 1:yeah, but they're really.
Speaker 2:They are designed to really understand their own energy, their own value, their own worth. Because, like I said, they um function best and their um power really shines when people recognize them for what their contribution is and then they uh invite them in to to help them. Because a lot of projectors will, like um have the experience probably in their life. If you're a projector and you're listening, you probably have this experience. You've probably been told you're bossy. You know, keep your nose out of my business all this thing, cause it's so hard because they just know what you need to do.
Speaker 2:And if they haven't learned to like hold that back and wait for someone to invite them into um to share that or just say, hey, I have something that could help you. Do you mind if I share it with you, especially a generator? They'll say yes or no, and if they say no, just keep your mouth shut. But if they say yes, then they want to hear what you have to say and what you have to say will land with them better, whereas most projectors my daughter can attribute to this was spending her whole. She's only two years older than my son. She tried her whole early life. He's a generator. Tell him what to do and how to do it and he's like stay out of my business. I'm not asking you to grow up, but now, as adults, you know she knows that now and she's like she knows that she doesn't have to tell him how to do everything unless he asks for her help right.
Speaker 1:So that brings us now to the last one, which is, of course, the reflectors. Reflectors. What can you tell us about the reflect.
Speaker 2:They are very rare and very unique. It's really only about one percent of the population and because I personally I think I know I don't know her personally she's in a group. I have not come across one yet. They haven't come across into my area yet.
Speaker 1:Um and you make them sound like this, like real, like this, like this animal that people have not seen in a very long time. It's like, it's almost like the yet's like a spotting, a sighting.
Speaker 2:I had a reflector sight, it's true.
Speaker 1:It's a sighting. I have sighted a reflector, wow.
Speaker 2:And they may not. Yeah, they don't know. But if you were a reflector, if you were looking at your human design chart, the whole chart, all the centers on the chart would be white white. So that would mean that there were no what we call defined areas, and so that means that reflectors are really that they are, these people that kind of reflect the environments around them. So if you think about what we talked about, manifestors initiate, generators, build and do projectors help guide the reflector.
Speaker 2:I hope it doesn't offend anyone. I kind of see them as the canary in the coal mine, like they're the one in the environment that can kind of have always a energetic finger on the pulse of what's happening and know if it's a healthy environment, if it's supporting the people in it, life, all these things like they are these people that help us know when we kind of maybe need to recalibrate or, you know, get some cause. They're very in tune to their environments because they, with that undefined uh centers means they're very open to the environment around them. They are always sampling the environment around them, but they're designed to to do just that. It's like a mirror. They hold up a mirror. This is what's happening, and there's so many different things I'm trying to. I'm trying to keep it just on type because I can get like way into all the definition and how we receive and give energy and all this stuff.
Speaker 2:We'll just have to save that for another discussion. But so they are really to. Like I said, they're the canary in the coma and they let us know when. Hey, you know, this is not healthy anymore. We need to course correct. You know, whether it's in a community or in a country or in their just family, like.
Speaker 2:These are the people that, and they are different in the sense that they are more in tune to the cycles of the moon and they need to take longer time to make decisions because they are kind of open to the world around them. They've got to really get a deeper understanding of who they are. You know, they probably need a little more time or at least space in their life where they can just kind of be alone so they can really understand who they are and how they are feeling about things, because they are so in tune to the environment. It can, um, you know, affect, you know how they operate, but that's the overall thing. You know, generate, um, you know people that initiate, people that build, people that guide and then someone that takes the, takes the pulse of the whole thing, and that's how, yeah, you can just on that high level thing.
Speaker 2:you know, if we talk about manifestors getting into action, you know we're talking about how do you create alignment, making decisions for yourself, knowing these types and knowing what they call your strategy Each type has just a strategy of how we interact in the world can really help kind of smooth things out for you. Would you like me just real quickly talk, say what that is, because we've already touched on it, but I just want to lay it out.
Speaker 1:Yes, absolutely, but before you do. I actually have something really, really important to ask, because you were talking about you know how many percentage of the population, and we're talking global- population, obviously right, uh, so we said reflectors. You said it's only a one percent, so they are the ones that are like, very rare. You don't see a lot of reflectors, you don't find them that often, you don't see them at all. You need to. It's almost like a sighting, like you said, but what about the others?
Speaker 1:Like what you did, mention some other percentages. So let's go over the percentages which I just worry. I'm not worried, I'm just curious to see who is. Which type is more common.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, the most common are the generator types, so roughly 70% or so around there. Um is um either a generator or a manifesting generator. That means roughly 70% of the planet has the defined sacral center. Um, it generally what I hear, skews maybe 35%, um, you could go even 35, 35, but somewhere around there is that. And then the projectors are that 20%, and then the manifestors around nine and the reflectors around one. So I think that adds up to about 100%.
Speaker 2:So I hear it's shifting a little bit more, that less manifestors, more projectors. But when I said that, you know, the generators are the ones. Generator types, sacral types are the ones that built the world. That's what I mean, you know, when you think about 70% of the population potentially, let's just give it a, let's just give it a clean, even 68%, because there's very few people on the global scale that are really following their heart Exactly, have built the world that we live in, which is a conditioned world where we're all just like, we're not living our own lives. We are doing what other people have asked us to do and since we're not in touch with our own body's response and what's right for you, we're like okay, I have the energy for it, it's just as easy, I can get it done, cause you know you can cause. You know that your energy will be back the next day.
Speaker 1:But which is also why we have so many unhappy people walking around it's like you are not in tuned with who you really are, and that then leads to you not doing what you are really aligned to do, so you're not doing what you love. You are not, you're just existing. From day to day, You're just existing. It's like I cannot imagine anything worse, but that is only because now I have seen the light if you want to say it that way, yeah, we know what that's like.
Speaker 1:We've all been there you know, working at a job that really was killing you softly. I was like we I always thought that it was us being dramatic. Oh my God, this job is killing me. No, it's not. It's probably because you're doing something that you were not meant to do, because you're doing something that you were not meant to do and that is not lighting you up in any way. So that is why, Dana, I so wanted to have this discussion with you, because, especially when it comes to work related these, knowing your type can be really, really, truly helpful.
Speaker 2:Yes and so yeah, real quick, because I'm sure we're probably getting to the end here. Yes, and so real quick, cause I'm sure we're probably getting to the end here. Oh gosh, yes, we are. But you'll always hear.
Speaker 2:You know, as you start paying attention to human design now or maybe you already have you'll hear type and strategy. These are the most important things. There's also authority, which we'll save that because that we can go down another rabbit hole. But strategy is how do you reduce resistance around you but also help create opportunities around you as well, because it's really, like I said, working at that aura level, like how you're just fundamental energy is meant to work. So we said manifestors. They have this nonverbal direct communication to the divine, let's call it, and so they have to be ready when the inspiration hits or when the creative urge hits. They don't know when that's going to be, any more than anybody else does.
Speaker 2:So the strategy for a manifestor is very counter to how they want to do things. It's funny when you hear the strategies, everybody's probably like I've been doing the opposite in my life. So the manifestor is meant to inform. That's their strategy. What that means is, before they get into that action, something might happen, or they have the idea that they're like, they can feel it coming. They need to inform those around them that may be impacted. And so they probably grew up as children just kind of following that urge and they were made to feel wrong because they're like where did you go? What are you doing? You can't just run off and do whatever you want. You know, it's like these might have been seen as these willful children, especially if they were women or girls. I should say there's a lot of conditioning they're going to have to break through, I think, once they discover this, because they often would hide, maybe, what they wanted to do. They didn't tell people Because they learned that if they did what they wanted to do, they got in trouble.
Speaker 2:And so quite often when a manifestor hears they need to inform, they don't like that at first because it feels like asking for permission. It is not asking for permission, it is saying this is what I'm thinking. And there you go, and what happens is people get out of their way because that's what it's designed to do. It's designed to give them the space to be where they want to be, doing what they want to do, without interruption, because it's a lot of creative energy and if they get interrupted, it's like that energy doesn't know where to go because they don't have words for it. Right? So if they just start informing when they feel that urge coming.
Speaker 2:If you're a manifester, you know, I don't know what that feels like, necessarily, but a manifester does Right, just start sharing with the people around you what you think you're going to do, especially as a business owner. If you have something that you want to a program or whatever it is you're wanting to develop, start talking about it, letting people know. This is what I'm doing. Okay, generators we kind of touched on it. We didn't even, you know, we didn't call it what it is, but their strategy is to respond that. So we kind of went over that.
Speaker 2:you know very responsive, that gives your sacral center, that opportunity to respond yes or no. Is this for me yes or no? And then you have to. It says wait to respond, and so that does mean don't initiate until you've gotten some kind of confirmation. That means also responding to things outside of yourself, not in your mind, not just like I'm thinking, if you maybe have been thinking or wanting something.
Speaker 2:When you get that sign signs are great for generators you know, someone mentioned something to you. You see a billboard or you receive an email, you listen to a podcast, that's like, oh my gosh, that was about the thing I was thinking about. That's your sign, that's your something to respond to. That Okay, this is where I'm going to follow and you just do it step-by-step. We're not meant to know the end step, we just follow the next step, responding projectors as we uh, I kind of touched on. It says you'll see. It says wait for the invitation, which they hate that and I can understand because wait to respond, wait for an invitation, like who wants to wait? Um, but that invitation is like we talked about your energy, your insight is precious. It's meant for specific people in specific situations. Even though you might know what they need. You have to kind of like either ask for permission hey, can I share or you wait for the right person to come to you and, most importantly, for a projector, when you're recognized. You want to be recognized for the thing you want to be recognized for. So you've got to be really tuned in to what it is, that that you love, what interests you, what you know you're good at, not you know what, um, you know, cause they're good at lots of things, but there's going to be something in particular that they really love and want to be recognized for and want to help people with. And so once they're invited, then their energy can just really, you know, have its most impact because it will be received.
Speaker 2:And then reflectors, they, their strategy is is a little different and it's kind of strategy, not strategy, but they, they say that a reflector has to wait a full, like lunar cycle, because, I mentioned, there's all that openness in their chart and they are tied to the cycles of the moon because the you know, they, they have undefined centers, but you'll see all the numbers on the chart. We, you know, we'll just have to do that another time these are activations of different energies in their energetic system that just aren't the centers aren't connecting to each other, but the moon placement moves through an astrological chart. You know it goes fast, it's like 28 days. It goes through the whole chart and so same here. As it moves throughout that 28 days, it can create definition in the person's chart and so they they can start tracking how they feel throughout a 28 day cycle.
Speaker 2:They'll they'll notice where there might be days they have more energy, or there might be days when they feel more insightful, or you know, and then they've always got to have people around them one or two at least that they can really just kind of express how it is, what they're thinking, what they're feeling, but to not rush the decision. If it's a bigger decision, like you know where to move, or like it's anything that involves other people, your resources, your money, all that stuff, they need to take at least one lunar cycle to before making a big decision, and nobody wants to hear that either.
Speaker 1:So it's almost like they want to be a little bit more. They need to be a little bit more cautious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, it's yeah because they, they, they are always shifting and changing. You know who they are and, um, that's how they're designed, because they're designed, you know, to move through these different environments and they have to get a uh, overall sense of how they're feeling about something and if they rush it, they could run into, you know, being disappointed with that decision. And they find that if they do just give themselves time, the decision they will make will be more aligned for what it is they truly want, because that's what all this is. More aligned for what it is they truly want, because that's what all this is. It's about learning how to trust yourself, what your body's telling you, not your mind. This system gives you a way to start accessing the body's wisdom again, and that is the ultimate guide for you of what's going to be right for you, because your mind you know, we know it'll tell you all kinds of crap.
Speaker 1:It shines. Human design shines so much light into who you really are and what triggers you and what doesn't, what affects you and what doesn't. So I think that is the beauty in it, but I think it I mean like we can go so, so deep into human design. There is so much more to it than what we touched on today. So I am definitely going to have you again on the show because I am dying to actually ask you, you know, if you know, when it comes to like those big decisions like who should I, should I go into business with this person, for instance, there are, of of course, also the types. When you need to take that into consideration, my future partner, what kind of type goes well together? What do you need to look out for what you don't? Also, when it comes to choosing the right job for you, what jobs are go go the best with what certain types you know? Know? So it's it's so much more that we can that we can go into, but unfortunately we only have a few minutes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would like to say on that point you know it's it's, it's not predictive, and it can't show you that. What it can show you, though, like when you talked about you know a partner or a relationship you know, would never, you know, say oh, you're a manifest generator. You should go look for you know.
Speaker 1:Oh no, not at all.
Speaker 2:That's the beauty, but it does help in the relationships, especially cause you can run charts of people together, like what the energy it is that creates when two people come together. You can see so much clearly like where your potential pain or challenges could be in that relationship, because you can see there's, like you said, there's so much here where it is that you're going to be most likely like I don't always like using the word triggered, but where it is that you carry the conditioning, like, like I said, it's, it's like having this magnifying glass that you can finally like look on the map and be like, oh, there it is, that's where my lack of of self-worth comes from. It's it's coming from that and it is like scarily accurate as to, and then it's like, okay, there it is. Um, there's nothing wrong with me. This is just something I've picked up in life. I'm not a bad person. I'm not, you know, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:I um, I'm just wired this way, and then you can pay attention to how you then um react to things in life, because you know, as we know, once you start making those conscious decisions about how you want to be, the kind of life you want to live and the decisions you want to make, but just how you start reacting and responding to life. You are in control of that and this can show you. You know, maybe, where you need to look out for, be aware of, but then also know where you really shine.
Speaker 1:Which is what, yes, which is why I was getting to with the, you know, knowing, uh, your partner a little bit better, not that okay. Well, no, that one's a projector. I can never date a projector, absolutely not. It's more that, like you can almost like you, if you know how that person reacts to certain things and versus how you react to certain things, based on your chart, it is kind of helpful Incredibly. You know you could be able to have more decent discussions without these escalating into becoming fights or you know disagreements and stuff like that. So that's what I'm.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're absolutely right, and that's what's fundamental here is when you understand yourself and you get this picture or snapshot of yourself, of how you're wired and it resonates so deeply with you, you know it's true, right, and you can do your own little experiment with your design, and then you are going to want to look at everybody around you and know how they work.
Speaker 1:It gives you so much more.
Speaker 2:You're willing to give so much more grace to people because you're like well, if this is true for me, it's probably how they're designed is true for them. That's how they feel, and my husband and I. He's a manifesting generator. I'm a generator. We've been married for 30 years now and I can absolutely tell you that me knowing this, me knowing about myself and him and how he's really, how he's designed because we are very different makes so much more sense now, and some of the biggest things I used to have issues with him was a lot of those manifesting generator stuff of like not finishing the projects being all over the place. You know, he just does things differently than me. I can then make the adjustments I need to and how I react to that, and I can just give him the space to be who he is. He doesn't have to know anything about human design and he doesn't. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He has no clue. I've been doing this podcast for two years. Which I can't even imagine, because I'm thinking you're just going around the house talking about human design every single second but it's always the people.
Speaker 2:Now, haley, my daughter, she does. But you know my, my son, he's a, he's a generator. Three, five. They're very much like um, I just dropped profile stuff. They're very much in their own lane. My husband. He's in his own lane he's just he's too busy. He doesn't slow down, he doesn't want to know, but it helps him, even though he doesn't know. It's helping him. Me knowing it helps him, and he doesn't know that, and that's the beauty of it, is it? Can really.
Speaker 1:Because you know you know there are certain things that you can have a discussion about that might you could change the person's um know, when you're, when we're going into discussions, especially, it's like you know then that this person might react to this a certain way and that is who they are. So you're not gonna try to change that, because it is initially who they are, what they are. So you know, then that you need to give it space and you know, let it do, let them do their own thing. So, yeah, absolutely. Now we have come, unfortunately, to the end of this conversation and I hate it because there is so much more still to discuss when it comes to human design. You just said the profiles and the numbers, and I'm a manifesting generator. Six, two, and you're, what are you?
Speaker 2:You're a generator, what are? Your the full thing is I'm a four one emotional generator. That's when we talk about getting into authority, which is another layer of decision making.
Speaker 1:I think I need to just book a session with you to go a little deeper into mine as well. So tell our listener how can they get in touch with you and where can they book a session with you if they want their chart read by you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, like I said, my website is humandesignhivecom and I think really the best thing to do is get that chart. When you do download your chart, I do ask for your email, which will put you on my email list so you'll be in touch with what's up and what I'm doing and upcoming things. There's the podcast, which, if you don't want to wait, you want to, you know, start getting a little more information. You know, go all the way back to the beginning. It has you know on specific things about type and everything, Um and uh. Oh, what was the other thing I was going to say? I forget now. Oh, yeah, Also on my website does have all the offerings and everything.
Speaker 2:Like I said the email list, cause I am always bringing new things in. I also have on the website or when you generate your chart, you'll be able to download a comprehensive, like over 60 page report that I have for purchase on there that goes into your specific type, strategy, authority, commission, all the different channels, gates, all the things that make you you, that you'll see in your chart, breaks it down for you, explains it what it, what it is, and it's something that you, that doesn't change. This is always going to be you, this is you, no matter what. This is your anchor and that report can help you um, really keep revisiting it, see what your gifts, your talents are, and so that's also going to be um. Or is available for purchase on my website. And booking readings, and I do recorded readings, I do Um and I will say the reading offerings. When we do um, you know a one-on-one, you know it's zoom or whatever you want to do, not whatever.
Speaker 2:Um it really likes to be like a discussion like this. You know it's like if you're a newbie, I can walk you through the basics that we're talking about. If you know about human design a little bit more and you have specific questions, we can do that. But I have found over time that the in knowing my own design and knowing what my gifts and being able to accept them more and really lean into them, is that you get a lot of intuitive guidance there of like what I'm feeling, what I'm seeing and and just what comes through in our conversation together of what it is you need to hear about your design.
Speaker 2:I can certainly answer your questions, but I can also help guide you through um. You know other aspects of that, so all the information's there on my website and it's. It's been a pleasure being here.
Speaker 1:I had so much fun talking to you. It has been an absolute pleasure to have you. I know the two of us. Whenever we get into a conversation, we can do hours we really can and there is so much more that I need that I want our listener to know about human design, like I said before. So I am definitely having you on the Paradise Perspectives podcast again, because we need to go a little deeper into this at some point.
Speaker 2:I would like to say one thing real quick before we wrap up is that you know for all of you listening to Rizal's podcast. I just want you to know what an amazing human she is, if you don't already know that. And um, her coming into my life, me on the spot her coming into my life is amazing, like she really does care and has a heart and she really does and I can also. I can see your design.
Speaker 2:I know all these things like yes, are meant to help guide people through this experience of discovering themselves and who they truly are, and you really are wired for that and you can really gain a lot of knowledge and guidance listening to Rizal, because she's she's made for this. She's here for you and trust it, so I'm so happy to be here in your circle.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, you're making me blush, but I am so happy to hear you say that that is. That means so so much, especially because you know. You know because you have been following my story since the beginning, when I was just focusing on travel, and now that I'm focusing, you know, I'm kind of like going into this new direction, which of course comes with its sets of fears. So it's it's beautiful to hear that you know, you two agree with me that that is the right path that I'm supposed to be on. So thank you so much. But thank you again, dana and listener. Again, if you need any information on how to get in contact with Dana, then you can go to humandesignhivecom. I have left a link in the description or in the show notes so that you can just click and go there right away. So I've done the work for you. Just go to the show notes and just click on the link that I have there. Thank you again, dana, for being here. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Now didn't I tell you human design is just the ish? No, here are the takeaways that we learned from Dana today. Human design goes beyond any astrological charts or personality tests. It provides us with a deep insight into our natural strengths, energy levels, decision-making style and communication. It also helps us recognize how we naturally operate, identify roles and situations that align with our true self, and it can help us choose the right career path for us. It can also help us communicate better with others and it can certainly help in relationship dynamics. In short, human design helps us discover who we really are and who we came here to be. It is the ultimate tool to help guide us into becoming our most authentic self. Now, if you want to know more about human design, your type and your true nature, listen to the Human Design Hive podcast with Dana and Hayley, or get in touch with Dana for a one-on-one chart reading and detailed explanation. I have left all of the links in the show notes so you can head on over after this episode to check it out.
Speaker 1:Now I'm going to head out and braise the falling temperatures here in Portland, oregon, for a pumpkin latte, because I've grown quite addicted to those little monsters. Damn it, because how am I going to survive when I go back to St Martin? Anyway, you have yourself a lovely day and thanks for listening. And hey, if you like this podcast, please leave a review on Apple Podcast. It really helps the podcast grow. Thanks so much. My name is Rizal, the traveling island girl. I'll be back with another interesting episode next Thursday. This was Paradise Perspectives. Adios ciao, adios da, and bye-bye.
