Tree Hill Wrestling Federation

Ep. 125 - Two Words - Letting Go

• Erin Koczkur and Sean Harris • Season 6 • Episode 19

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Did you hear Brooke's new line may be Twilight inspired? Weird... It's like we're talked about that saga recently... Hmm... What do we call that, emulsifying?

They really need to rename "Survivor Series" to "Screw-job Series" because what the actual hell was that!?

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Do you smell what the rock is cooking?

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free hell wrestling federation podcast brothers

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and sisters

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and we smell what the rock is cooking i smell what aaron's cooking over

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here

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if you smell what aaron's farts are

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cooking! Fuck off, you motherfucker!

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On the Treehill Wrestling Federation podcast, brothers and sisters, as I am...

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Why'd you steal my line? What

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do you mean?

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And sisters is mine.

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Yeah, but you already said sisters. No, I didn't. Yeah, you did. I said... podcast brothers and you're like and sisters and we smell what the rock is cooking

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no you

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already said you want fucking receipts bro i go to the receipts i speak in straight facts

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how is my brain that bad that i forgot

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that you said scissors and you literally say

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sisters seconds later

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the first time when i say treehill wrestling federation podcast brothers that's always your cue to say and sisters and you always do and you hit it and you thought you didn't hit it because i don't know why you're remembering

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you went off about smelling what the rock see that here

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you go blaming about how i'm smelling what the rock is cooking it's actually not my fault at all but anyway it's your fault it's absolutely 100 not my fault because i'm not the one who didn't remember i remembered so uh there's that but i smell what the rock is cooking you smell what the rock is cooking and everybody's eventually gonna smell what aaron's cooking because she cooked up a nice big long four second fart before we hit record. And here we are in the THWF at treehillwf.podcast on the socials, including Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and threads. And listen to us on all the streaming services, including what?

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Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube Music, and iHeartRadio. Fuck off, bitch.

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What? Yeah, THWF, bro. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, Spotify Generation X proudly brings to you its number three ranked One Tree Hill podcast in the world! The road dog Sean Harris, the badass Eric Kosker who rips some hard-ass farts.

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Fuck off! The Tree Hill

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Wrestling Federation podcast!

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And if Sean doesn't shut the fuck up, I got two words for him. fuck off

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that's not the line but I appreciated that a lot that was really good and I enjoyed every minute of that here on the THWF brother we got a couple episodes to get here tonight and it's a couple we have watched now and two words letting go that is episode 125 season 6 episode 19 we're almost done season 6 of One Tree Hill we have two words for all of you letting go and this is this episode But I cannot wait for the main event when we get to Survivor Series 98 and I get to gush about Survivor Series. And we've done that a few times on this show already. We have gushed about Survivor Series. We've done whole social media campaigns and entire episodes about Survivor Series. And now we're going to talk about Survivor Series again, but please start with the OTH brother.

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you say that like so painfully

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what

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almost you're like

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no start with the tree hill man we're in some good kind of good shit right now i don't know it could be a little bit more dramatic you know but i know it's getting there i know it's getting there and

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you know we're waiting for dan to die

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he's not going to die yet though how do you know i because i know how do

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you know

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because i already know he may die at one time maybe later in the show but he's not dying yet there's shit that hasn't happened yet that i know about because you are bad with spoilers years ago

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years ago before we even were gonna have a podcast

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and you

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expect your memory is supposed to be shit enough to not remember that

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you expected me to not a listen to what you're saying when you're

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talking you never listen to me

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what what

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i tell you shit all the time and then 10 minutes later i'll say it again and you'll be like huh

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what

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yeah Cause you don't listen to me.

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I forget things too, bro. Sorry. I do forget things, but I remember this. Uh, I remember that you told me spoilers years ago.

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Shut your motherfucking mouth right now before I literally curb stomp you.

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Oh, you're gonna curb stomp me like Seth Rollins would? Wow. You're gonna pull a Seth Rollins on me? Are you the visionary? Are you Aaron frickin' Rollins?

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Yeah.

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So I married someone else?

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You married Seth Rollins. Although Becky Lynch already married Seth Rollins. So you can't marry Seth Rollins. Yeah. Sorry, bro.

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I mean.

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You would rather marry British Bulldog. Let's just put it that way.

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Anyways. Haley wants to co-produce Mia's record.

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Yep.

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But she's also going to be working on some of her own shit, which is pretty cool for Haley.

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Because Haley fucking quit.

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She quit.

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She fucking

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quit being a teacher, bro. She's done. She can focus on her music career again.

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She told... principal butt kiss principal butt kiss principal ass kiss principal rim kiss k-i-s-s not k-u-s uh k-i-s-s-s kiss uh fucking rim kiss she

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told her to suck it

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yeah she did she gave two words you know what you know what happened here bro okay rim kiss was like hayley scott you're fired and then hayley's said right back to her, well, guess what, Principal Rimkus? I've got two words for you. And then she puts the mic to the crowd in the arena that she's singing at.

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And they all go, suck it! That'd be wild.

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That's how she did it.

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jack is uh crashing sam's class because principal butt kiss is teaching the class

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but

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she

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needs to kiss all of our rims anyway

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oh my god um so apparently everyone failed a test on catch 22

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right

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And so they're all passing. She's passing out the paperwork and she's saying, you all fucking suck. And they're all like, no, you fucking suck. We would be doing better if Haley was still a teacher.

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Yep.

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And so even Jack is sitting there and he says something and she's like, oh, you can go see me in detention or whatever. And he's like, I'm not even in this fucking class.

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That's how we know how bad of a teacher you are. You even

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know this shit. She's so bad. She's a terrible principal too. Yeah.

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She sucks. You know what? If she would just focus more on making a little noise up in this biatch instead of being a biatch, maybe people would actually like her and want to be in her school

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yeah

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but there's only one school in tree hill there's no alternative all 12 grades all 13 grades including kindergarten all run through this one school in tree hill

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yes jamie gets dropped off at a different school every day

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yeah how does that make sense and where's whitey and all this i miss him so much

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oh too bad um Skills wakes up mouth bright and early 6 a.m. or whatever the fucking time it is. Because it's time for a road trip.

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Dude, have I not talked about this before? I know you don't remember a lot, but you're going to remember this is that There's so much spur-of-the-moment traveling in this show. Have you noticed this? Oh, yeah. They literally wake up in the morning like, hey, let's go. Let's go drive to Mexico right now. And it's like, oh, I have work in the morning, and I have children to take care of, and this and that. It's like, oh, fucking time to do this shit. Now, fair enough. Skills and Mal don't have kids, and they have jobs. Actually, Skills has a lot of jobs. Yeah. But this spur-of-the-moment, like, traveling that just, like, happens so quickly. So

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fucking fast. So

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many times, too.

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Oh, my God. It's insane. There's gotta be memes

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out there for the amount of fucking road trips that these people go on.

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Yeah, right? There's... Oh, man. It's insane. Like... I wish.

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Gas is expensive, bro.

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True. Jamie's been really struggling since finding out that Dan killed Keith.

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Would you struggle with that if you found out that your grandpa killed your uncle?

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Yeah, I'd fucking struggle, too. But, like, because he's had such a great relationship with Dan so far, and then finding this out, he's like... He didn't get to know his uncle. So... Lucas and Nathan have a great idea. Take Jamie on a little road trip.

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Yeah.

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Not even really a road trip. It's a field trip.

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Yeah, it wasn't a road trip. They're just taking him to a place. Again, just this fucking travel. Yeah. Again.

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Julian is approaching Brooke and he's telling her like, yeah, I'm going back to L.A., but I want you to come with me. And she's like, well, what about Sam? And he's like, I already thought about that. He got two tickets for them to go and leave Tree Hill to go and live with him in L.A.,

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That's

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a spur of the moment because he's leaving later that day.

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He's literally leaving that night.

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That night, yeah.

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Why? I

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know. Why? That is fucking... Hey, let's move to L.A. tonight.

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Tonight.

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Tonight. Yeah,

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let's do it. Tonight.

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You and your foster daughter come with me tonight to L.A.

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The fuck, dude?

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What?

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Are you kidding me? Why does it have to be tonight? It's hilarious when Sam finds out about it. It's like, when is

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tonight? Right? It's like, what? Poor girl. She's just like so left in the dark because Brooke doesn't even know if she wants to go. She's telling Peyton about it and Peyton's like, well, how do you feel about it? Like, do you want to go? Yeah. And Brooke's like, I like him, but like, i have my clothing line and all this shit so like you know and she feels like it would be unfair to uproot sam

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sure yeah at the same time that's tough she needs stability and then she has that finally in her life and she doesn't really need something like this in it

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exactly um so lucas and nathan take jamie to keith's former body shop

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Yeah.

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Someone else bought it after Dan lost his car dealership, including also the shop now that he had bought from Keith or swindled from Keith.

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Swindled from Keith. Keith can't read a fucking contract, though. Oh, my God, dude.

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Read it. He trusted his brother. No. He shouldn't have trusted his brother.

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No. Not a good idea.

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Anyways, I guess because Lucas was so close to the building and the shop that the owner still lets Lucas go and putter around in there, gave him a key. Super sweet. So they get to... Super

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trusting. Yeah, super trusting. Hey, random people, here's

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some keys to my shop. I mean, it's Tree Hill. They've probably known each other for years. Probably, yeah. Basically Lucas's whole life. Yeah. They're probably neighbors. It's

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like they don't even know the guy and they're just like, oh, yeah, here are the keys. Just take it for the weekend. See how it goes. It's like, okay. We're going to close down our business for a day so you can do this too. It's like, what the fuck?

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Right. So they go into the body shop and Lucas says, oh, my Mustang needs a tune up. So why don't we get... give Jamie the good old Uncle Keith experience. Wow, I can't English. And work on the car together, which is very much something that Lucas had done with Uncle Keith. So it's cool that now Jamie gets to experience this with his Uncle Lucas. Yes. Gills and Mouth are going on a road trip to get over their girls. Or get over their women? Deb?

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Yeah.

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Millie?

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Yep.

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Because Mouth has been, you know, pouting quite a bit. Gills, he's just like, whatever. I'm just going to get over her and move on. But Mouth doesn't really know where they're going and Skills isn't really letting on to where they're going. To where

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they're going. I

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guess we'll find out soon. Yeah. But they're having a good talk about, you know, like... It sucks, but you just gotta get over it. You can't just waste your life away. You

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know what's funny about Julian and Brooke? It just came to me. I kind of thought this whole relationship and what they're at now and him saying he loves her and wanting to go live in LA with him and Sam and shit. It's like, how long have these two people actually known each other? I guessed six weeks. I was two weeks ahead. They actually have known each other for four weeks. It was a less than i anticipated right so they have known each other for one single month and now apparently he wants her to move to la with him

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and they he wants to say the l word and

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you imagine us a month in and me just going like hey let's move to la tonight

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That'd be weird. What the fuck, dude? That'd be really fucking weird. That's

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a lot of logistical issues. We're Canadian, bro.

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True. Haley returns home from working over at... Red Bedroom Records, I forgot. Red

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Bedroom Records?

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Yeah.

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That's a terrible name for a

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record label. No, it's because Peyton's room was her red bedroom.

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I know. It's just not great.

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Whatever. It is what it is. We didn't write this story, so...

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But I can have an opinion about it. I

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just don't like it. I thought it was cute. Because of where Peyton kind of started. Where she grew up and everything. I thought it was really cute. Anyways, Haley returns home to find Sam and Jack are sitting on her stairs and she's like, how'd you break into my house? And Sam's like, I'm really good with windows. But,

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uh, yeah.

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They go into the living room and find the entire literature class is sitting in Haley's living room asking for her to teach them. How

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many kids is this? Like 15 kids or something? Some shit like that, yeah. 12 kids or some shit? There's not that many kids. Not that many, but I'd say like 12 to 15. I remember my

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packed, packed fucking English classes in high school. Like 30 kids. I was going to

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say 30 people. That was like kind of the standard. That's

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a lot of kids. But yeah, this was like maybe a few rows of maybe five people per row or whatever.

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Right.

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And maybe like three rows. So yeah, 15 sounds about right. Maybe 20 max.

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Yeah.

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It's a pretty small class size. Yeah. And yeah, they're demanding to be taught because they're failing because of this horrible principle and Haley not being there. And they're like, well, yeah, you're not officially our teacher anymore, but we respect you. um

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it's uh literally like dead poet society so that you ever see that movie dead poet society as robin williams he's this teacher that these kids just love and uh you just gotta watch it i don't want to spoil anything but anyways there's a scene in it where the kids like love robin williams so much they literally like stop and stand on their desks like get on top of their desks all stand up and start chanting oh captain my captain oh captain my captain you have to watch it It's pretty good. And that's what I'm kind of expecting some of the kids to do here is saying, oh, Captain Mike.

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Oh, my God. Yeah. So Mouth and Skills pull up in front of the old school that Mouth actually graduated from for his college. Yeah. And there's a party. And Gigi is dead. doing a keg stand very on point for gg and uh she's so stoked to see mouth and mouth is like looking at skills and he's like dude why'd you bring me here

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what are you doing

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to me like what the fuck and skills is like oh yeah hot college girls in like pjs

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yeah

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sweet It

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should be, but for Mal's interpretation of all this is he misses Millie and he loves Millie.

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That's sweet, though. I

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think there's some more driving in their future.

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Yeah, probably. A

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lot of road trips.

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So while Gigi's doing a keg stand, Jamie's doing a car stand. Yeah. He's pulling out a spark plug from the car and they have him... They're holding him upside down to get the spark plug. And he asks, oh, what happened to Lindsay?

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What happened to Auntie Lindsay? Oh,

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man. Because Lucas is talking about how he fell in love with Peyton and talked about her all the time and worked on her car in the shop. All this stuff. And yeah, then Jamie's like, I

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wonder if Jamie has started dating his teacher yet.

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Oh,

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my God. That's just going to go down a whole another rabbit hole if those two start

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dating. Right. Can you

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imagine in this show? A fucking five-year-old. Oh, my God.

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That would be wild.

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Insane. I think this show would go that far, but you never know.

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Yeah.

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Wrestling would go that far. Oh, my God. You know it would. Anyway.

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Mouth and Gigi are talking, and they kind of like... Gigi kind of apologizes for the way she acted.

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Yeah.

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While Mouth was in the relationship with Millie, and she's like, you know, like, I was just playing around. Um... But it's kind of, Mouth is really realizing that Gigi was not, like, this isn't where he wants to be. This isn't the spot he needs to get over Millie. So he's ready to go and Skill's like, dude, these college chicks are so hot. They're

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crazy and they're hot.

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It's

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a hot, crazy scale, right?

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Yeah, right. Peyton's having a chat with Julian about Brooke. Are you serious about her moving? Are you actually going to take care of her and take care of Sam? Like, is this you being selfish? Did you actually come here for me? Like what's going on? Like be real because Brooke deserves the best.

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Yeah.

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And he's like, no, like I'm legit. Like I'm in love with her. She's like, Hey, good. Then do what you need to do, but treat her right.

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Yeah.

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Because Brooke has been treated like shit by so many guys.

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She really has. The list is endless. And who even knows how many more in the four-year time jump all throughout that time. I

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don't think she even let anyone get close enough to hurt her. In

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that time period? I don't

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know. So Haley's still doing class in her living room. And... they got an unexpected visitor

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rim they got unexpected rim kisses from this

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woman that's awful

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all the people all the kids and all the fucking everybody yeah

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she just found out where hayley lives and busts in yeah at least like sam knew where hayley lived She's, like, in the group, basically. Yeah, she knows. But, yeah. Principal Rimkus goes in and she breaks it up and sends the kids home or back to school.

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And what time is it now? Why are they going back to school? I don't know. I don't know. How early is

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this? Again, like... i have no idea who

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knows

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right i have no idea because at the same time skills and mouth

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they're in it's night time it's night time at the party

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but then

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but what they're still in fucking school and

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then jamie and lucas and nathan are still at the shop and they're turning jamie into mini keith yeah so like what the fuck is this time and

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now and it's like But, okay, they're going on this road trip, but it's on a weekday. They're starting this road trip because the kids are in school, so it's a weekday. I'm so confused. Right? I don't know, man. They just run to the fucking tune of their own fucking bell, man. They don't even care. They don't even fucking care. They don't even fucking care.

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But, yeah, so... Now Mouth and Skills are leaving the school because, you know, Skills has a different idea. Skills is in

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nighttime elsewhere and we are in daytime in Tree Hill.

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Yeah, I have no idea.

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Are they going backwards through the fucking time zones? What are we doing

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here? Just wait. Just wait. Yeah, it gets crazier. I'm sure it does. So anyways, Peyton goes to see Brooke.

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Or they should take Jamie as the hallway where Keith

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comes shot. Oh my god, shut the fuck up. They take... Peyton goes to see Brooke in her shop and... It's pretty dark and moody in there. And Peyton asks if the new line is inspired by Twilight. What are the chances? We get a little Twilight shout out.

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Okay, not just that, but I have a certain word that I use that I really need you to say.

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I'm not going to say it.

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In this situation. No. It's just so good. Because what just happened to us in this podcast, we fucking watched where a vampire character debuted. so that sent off me having to watch the entire twilight saga into actually enjoying most of the twilight saga to now one tree hill the other show we're watching and reviewing in the episode they're saying is this twilight inspired and i'm like the amalgamation is true and it is the cream of the crop much like macho man would say

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This is so fucking good. You need a sip of this. I

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will eventually. Don't give it to me right now. Don't do it right now. Don't give it to me right now. Don't give it to me right now. Sweet.

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It's the best.

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I will take some.

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Peanut butter whiskey with cherry Coke.

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Okay, that was an interesting experience.

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Didn't it taste like an Uncrustable?

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I mean, maybe

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a little. Take a sip of that. No. Take a bite of bread. It's perfect. It's

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perfect. No thanks, bro.

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It's so good.

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Anyways, the amalgamation was true as fuck here with the Twilight references. We now had all three parts to this. Twilight wrestling involving Twilight and One Tree Hill involving Twilight.

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Truth. Sam and Julian are sitting at the little diner and julian sorry i forgot the name for a second

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his name is julia

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julian kind of mentions about la and sam's like what and he's like brooke didn't tell you and she's

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i want her to move to la with me like immediately and she's like when yeah he's like tonight

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okay so i thought about it in a way that like how i would feel if i was finding this out like around dinner time that i might be moving to la tonight with my foster mom that like she's known about it all day basically but

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hasn't told you

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but hasn't told me yet kind of thing i'd be so pissed

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that would be shitty

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that would not could

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you ever do that right like

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fuck Right? Like, that's a big decision. Oh, my God. And to not loop Sam into the decision that involves her. Yeah. That's kind of... Yup. Lucas and Nathan are letting... Jamie know that it's okay to miss Dan he did bad things but it's okay to still miss him because you had such a good relationship with him before finding out what he did and Jamie's kind of like thinking about that a lot and he's like yeah like he's my grandpa Dan he was like my best friend and now I've lost that um But it's kind of cool to hear that they're okay with the idea of him missing Dan. Yeah. And Nathan kind of misses him, too, when he thinks about him as a father.

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Yeah, totally.

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So, makes sense.

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Jamie's so wise though, you know, like at his age and the shit he's been through. I guess he is the new whitey of the show. He's the wise

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one. He's the whitey of

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the show. He's the whitey now. He's

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just a smart guy. There you go. There's your whitey. Yeah,

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that's the new whitey.

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Because you might never ever see that man again. No,

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don't say that. Don't ever say that.

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I know things you don't know. Don't

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say that.

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Maybe you'll see Whitey at his funeral.

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No. Why would you do this to me? What are you doing right now? We're just going to keep going here, brother. That's not cool.

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So Principal Rim Kiss is...

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Every time. Rim Kiss. Rim Kiss. Rim Kiss.

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She's a... She's kind of trying to ask Haley. She's like, the kids respect you. And she's realizing that she's the one that's in the wrong. But she's also doesn't feel bad for making Haley apologize.

SPEAKER_03:

She's sticking to her principles. against the principal. Oh, my God. Right? The principal's a principal.

SPEAKER_02:

But she's kind of trying to ask Haley to come back, and Haley's like, I'm so fucking late. Because she

SPEAKER_03:

needs her, because she knows how good of a teacher she is now, but now she's so far gone, it's like, I ain't fucking helping you. Fuck

SPEAKER_02:

you. Yeah, like, you gotta follow my rules exactly, and Haley's like, no. Like, I'm gonna do what's right, and what I did was right. Yeah. Like, fuck. Fuck you. I'm not going to play by your game. So Mouth finds out finally where skills was taking him. But at the end of all this, he took him to New York to see Millie. And he actually saw her. He was sitting on her doorstep.

SPEAKER_03:

He was

SPEAKER_02:

waiting for her.

UNKNOWN:

Wow.

SPEAKER_02:

Because he missed her. And all he can think about is her.

SPEAKER_03:

Find

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her in New York. She misses him, too.

SPEAKER_03:

It's a fucking drive, man. That is quite a drive. All right.

SPEAKER_02:

Didn't you say eight and a half hours? I think it

SPEAKER_03:

might have been something like that. Or longer, I think. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02:

Something crazy. Jalien. Jalien? Jalien?

SPEAKER_00:

Jalien? Jalien? Is he going to jail?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, my God. Jalien is waiting at the airport, but no Brooke and no Sam to be seen.

SPEAKER_03:

Eight and a half hour drive it is from fucking in North Carolina to New York. Eight and a half.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, because I saw you had written that down. So that's why I said it. But yeah, Brooke and Sam not joining Julian on his trip to New York.

SPEAKER_03:

It seems like they might have.

SPEAKER_02:

It did seem like they might because they were talking about it. But yeah. No dice. And then Peyton, she's got this box that's full of pictures, old drawings that she did, new drawings that she's kind of been improving on. And why has she suddenly got this box of all of her art again? Why is this suddenly becoming such a thing? And she's adding pictures to this box. Yeah. What is the significance of the box?

SPEAKER_03:

The box?

SPEAKER_02:

The box.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, so what's in the box again?

UNKNOWN:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

um pictures of her art it looks like a lot of pictures that she drew about um her and lucas her and lucas her and her like upbringing or whatever

SPEAKER_03:

what's the significance of this

SPEAKER_02:

box and then these pictures yeah what's what do you think is the significance of the box

SPEAKER_03:

i don't know i think well she's having this kid so i don't know she wants like these keepsakes for her kiddo Maybe. I haven't really given much thought to the box, honestly. What's in the box? What's in the box? Pictures, apparently. And I guess we're going to find out the significance of this box. And you know it and I don't, brother.

SPEAKER_01:

And

SPEAKER_03:

didn't Julian actually, wasn't Brooke actually at the airport? And then Sam wasn't there? And so he's like, where's Sam? And she's like, Sam's not coming. He's like, oh, you're not coming.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Right? Yeah, so she was there, but then Sam wasn't there. So she was just there to tell him that.

SPEAKER_02:

She showed up like right when he was about to board, basically. I

SPEAKER_03:

got off the plane. It's their literal friends moment. Ross and Rachel, some shit. But it doesn't work out because, yeah, she didn't bring Sam in. You know, she can't leave without Sam. So she's going back home and she's not going with Julian. So whatever the fuck happens to Julian now.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Who knows? Is he

SPEAKER_03:

off the show? Is he this? Who knows? Fuck, I don't. You do. I do. And it's a dollar sign 3.20. It's all right. The amalgamation was real nice in this episode. It's like a 10 out of 10 on the amalgamation scale. But overall, 3.2. Not bad. Yeah. But we could do better. I know we could do better. And we're going to do better before the end of the season, I'm sure. And I'm very excited for it. We better. We don't want to be pissed if we don't. But you know what was hellacious, vile, unbelievable, shocking, insane, some other descriptive words we can use for this pay-per-view. Unpredictable. Could you say that? Unreal. All the adjectives you want to throw at it. It is Survivor Series. Not Survivor Series 96. Not Survivor Series 97. Not Survivor Series 2024. It is Survivor Series 1998. It is November 15th. St. Louis. Keele Center for the

SPEAKER_02:

Daily Game! Oh my god, this song just did not fit with the skull entrance thing. That was not right. Daily Game! It's the Daily it was so stupid

SPEAKER_03:

they did a song for deadly game

SPEAKER_02:

bro yeah but it did not fit the set and everything i know the set was

SPEAKER_03:

like dark and had like stone cold skull and shit and there was fire and all this stuff it's like super intense and shit and it's like this

SPEAKER_02:

deadly game it's kind of you know it reminds me of

SPEAKER_00:

a little bit what

SPEAKER_02:

you know how like the youths have that song fuck you yeah And, like, even my dad, like, he saw my shirt and he's like, wow, that's an angry shirt. And it's like, yeah, but when you listen to the song, it's so upbeat. Yeah. But it's got, like, this, like, it just seems very, like... fuck you it's gonna be a very angry song it's kind of like this like you look at the set and you're like this is gonna be so angry this is like deadly game like this is gonna be fucking

SPEAKER_03:

brutal name for a used song deadly game

SPEAKER_02:

right dude um but then the song like the sound of it just did not hit what i was expecting yeah it's

SPEAKER_03:

interesting do you think it would have been like a metal track or something yeah it's a deadly guy like Slipknot played on her some shit you know yeah no it's a deadly

SPEAKER_02:

game it's a deadly game so stupid

SPEAKER_03:

deadly game

SPEAKER_02:

so stupid like what is with like there's quite a few times where they've done that

SPEAKER_00:

where like the

SPEAKER_02:

music is just not what you're expecting for like how the vibe is and then it's like what are they doing what are they thinking like Someone

SPEAKER_03:

needs

SPEAKER_02:

to get hit. Like they were hit in the head. They need to get hit in the head again. Wow. And maybe fix that.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

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Cause it's not, it's not it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, bro. Here's a really fun thing we should do is we should find WWF the music, like volume three and, uh, listen to it.

SPEAKER_02:

And roast the shit out of it.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, some good shits on there though. like Stone Cold songs on there. The Rocks is on there. Undertaker, Kane, I think. So there's some good ones. But yeah, then you can hear the other ones. Volume 3. Sure. WWF The Music Volume 3. We'll listen to that for the next episode.

SPEAKER_02:

Why are you putting me through this?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, it's going to be great.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it's going to be great. It's

SPEAKER_03:

going to be great, bro. You're going to love it.

SPEAKER_02:

Am I? Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_03:

No, we're going to roast the shit out of it. It's going to be super fun. We're going to do that. So yeah, anyways, Survivor Series 1998 Daily Game Tournament. So we're going to have a literal like 14-man one-night tournament.

SPEAKER_02:

That's a lot of matches.

SPEAKER_03:

It's a lot of matches. You know why I was fucking skipping so many of the early matches? Because I know what's important. So you just, that was just like gold dust and fucking

SPEAKER_02:

shamrock. That was the fastest pay-per-view we've ever watched.

SPEAKER_03:

Because I know this pay-per-view I've seen this pay-per-view quite a few times I know a lot of the ins and outs of this pay-per-view and I'm just like these are all matches we do not need to see we need to know who's in it and we need to know who wins and that's all we need right I

SPEAKER_02:

appreciate it, because I was a tired bitch by the end of that, and we skipped so much of it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, believe me, I know it, but it's okay, because I kept in the good stuff. The shit that we needed, we watched, and it was fucking amazing, I have to say.

SPEAKER_02:

Can't we do that every episode?

SPEAKER_03:

I mean, that's the thing. The Raws are different because there's a lot of segments to Raw. So if you skip a little bit, you might miss a lot, you know? So, you know, if it's a shitty match, oh, for sure. I'm just like, oh, if it's Mero and Al Snow, I'm like,

SPEAKER_02:

fucking skip, bro. Absolutely do not need to see that. Skip,

SPEAKER_03:

bro.

SPEAKER_02:

It is not important.

SPEAKER_03:

yeah not at all so anyway so we get the important shit so Vince McMahon is out here he's on his wheelchair apparently Vince's leg or ankle or whatever is not feeling too bad these days he's on the mend maybe

SPEAKER_02:

that's what I've been hearing that's what I've been hearing I hate him so much like he's been milking this ankle for so fucking long he's

SPEAKER_03:

been milking it as long as D'Lo Brown has

SPEAKER_02:

it's close enough there's you

SPEAKER_03:

better recognize

SPEAKER_02:

yeah It's been a long time. And it's like, then there's people that, you know, get real injuries and they're fine. They're fucking fine.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Or they're not fine, but they show like they're fine. Yeah. Totally. So Vince is out here and he's, so Mankind is in this tournament and he has won the Hardcore Championship, has already defended it against Ken Shamrock successfully as well too. And thanks to Big Boss Man with Corporation. So Corporation seemed to, you know, help out, you know, mankind a little bit here and there they're just like oh okay give him a win give him a title you know give him a spot in this tournament and now his first round opponent is you know had an unmeasurable win-loss record uh he is the elementary school football coach of the pasadena tigers all right and jim ross there's a high school

SPEAKER_00:

football team it's elementary elementary school

SPEAKER_03:

it's dwayne pathetic it's pathetic dwayne gill now unbeknownst to you we've actually seen dwayne gill why he just used to be a jobber in jobber matches like He would just come out and he would lose quickly to like a guy they're trying to establish. Yeah, I know what a jobber is. Exactly. Of course you do now. You know, you know all the terminology now, brother. But yeah, so anyways, he's here and he's got a first round tournament match against Mankind, who's wearing a tuxedo again, a bow tie and dress shoes.

UNKNOWN:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

And he's looking pretty spiffy in a sport

SPEAKER_02:

coat. Interesting attire for wrestling.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, but it's Mick Foley. He kind of wears whatever the fuck he wants to, right? Sweatpants with a hole in the ass. Sweatpants with the holes in it and fucking all the clothes with the holes in it and he doesn't care. And he kind of dresses like that in his real life as well, too.

SPEAKER_02:

Just like a slob.

SPEAKER_03:

Kind of, a little bit. Not, I don't know. I would say slaw, but like, you know, just, he doesn't give a fuck. He really doesn't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_02:

He would get uniform coated so fast at my work. Okay. Just saying.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Anyways, Mankind wins rather handily. I think he punches him and then he gives him a double-armed DDT and he wins. And that's it. It goes pretty quick. And Mankind gets a double R in DDT and the win. So he moves on in the tournament. Now we get a bunch of tournament matches. Okay. First tournament. Our next tournament match. Al Snow double J. Wow. This is amazing. Boring. Anyways. Head helps. Al Snow wins. He moves on. Okay. Here's one to talk about. Stone Cove! First round tournament match here for the stout coach Steve Austin. And it is Austin in Big Boss Man's first big match since his return to the main roster. This is another first round match. And it doesn't last very long and they go to the outside. There's just a lot of brawling in this match. And then they go to the outside and Boss Man just pulls up the nightstick and starts beating the shit out of Austin. And he's like, he gets disqualified. He doesn't fucking care. He's not going to win this tournament. What is he care so he's gonna inflict as much damage as he can on Austin so he's gonna have a harder time when he has to wrestle like two or three more times tonight right and

SPEAKER_02:

they were trying to tell him he shouldn't wrestle for the rest of the night because he's now been beat with his nightstick

SPEAKER_03:

yeah pretty badly too so Bossman did his job I know for a fact that Vince sent those orders and he was smiling at something like that to see Austin struggling yeah so he gets the DQ win up next X-Pac and Steven Regal real man's man ends in a double count out not much of a match either and then it was really weird in this first round match so whoever wins this match would face Austin in the second round in the quarter finals but because it went to double count out nobody wins so Austin gets a bye to the

SPEAKER_02:

next round but then Vince was like no no extend the time and he's

SPEAKER_03:

like no five minute overtime get a referee get a referee and X-Pac just leaves like he yeah he completely does not acknowledge any of this at all it just goes to the back and leaves and that's it so i'm thinking that maybe they're supposed to do the overtime but xbox was like fuck that i'm out of here or he just didn't realize what was going on he got his bell rung who knows right but anyways um fucking excuse me it was a double count out And we just don't end up having the five-minute overtime, even though Vince told them to do it. He runs things. Anyway, then McMahon and the Stooges realize that Austin gets a pie! He's

SPEAKER_02:

so pissed. Austin gets a pie!

SPEAKER_03:

He is so pissed that Austin gets a bye. Another useless first round matchup is Ken Shamrock and Goldust. Unfortunately, Shamrock wins by ankle lock submission. Next match, we're supposed to get The Rock in his first round match against Triple H. But guess what? Triple H isn't here. It's too much of a wimp to show up to St. Louis. I don't know why I'm trying to talk like, Brett, the hitman.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't get that. He just

SPEAKER_03:

comes out of nowhere sometimes.

SPEAKER_02:

You know what? When the random ass guy...

SPEAKER_03:

What random ass guy?

SPEAKER_02:

From earlier.

SPEAKER_03:

Dwayne Gill.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, was showing up. It sounded like it could have possibly been Brett.

SPEAKER_03:

You thought it could have been... It was Survivor Series. 98. Yeah. It's a year later.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Why

SPEAKER_02:

not? I was like... And when they said WCW?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I know. But even before they said WCW, you know what it could have been that people thought it was going to be? Online, like all the forums and message boards back then, a lot of people thought it was going to be Shawn Michaels.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.

SPEAKER_03:

Coming back into a tournament for the world title and then what, all of a sudden goes on a run and then wins the world title out of nowhere? Who knows, right? But obviously, Shawn Michaels was nowhere near the turn yeah

SPEAKER_02:

but i also knew that he wasn't like wrestling in wcw so

SPEAKER_03:

fair enough yeah uh yeah

SPEAKER_02:

that's why i didn't think about him i thought about bread

SPEAKER_03:

fair enough but yeah But after he said, yeah, wrestle in WCW. But yeah, obviously, HBK never went there. And yeah, it wasn't him, obviously. So it wasn't Triple H because Triple H is a big wimp and he doesn't want to face fucking.

SPEAKER_02:

He had a fucking surgery, dude. He

SPEAKER_03:

had a fucked up knee or whatever. So he's obviously not here. Didn't have the guts to show up, of course. Oh, my God. And so who is his replacement opponent? Is no one else but the big boss man. what he was already eliminated damn it

SPEAKER_02:

fucking idiot

SPEAKER_03:

and boss man oh first this is just making shit up as he goes along now he's literally like i don't care that boss man lost in this tournament he gets another spot in the tournament like what is the absolute fuck is going on here but this was one of the best moments of the entire pay-per-view boss man runs to the ring bell rings one two three four i count of four seconds that was how long this match lasted bell rings rock grabs boss man small package one two three he literally wins in four fucking seconds

SPEAKER_02:

damn

SPEAKER_03:

four seconds

SPEAKER_02:

damn yeah you know what's funny about like you know timing of things

SPEAKER_03:

yeah

SPEAKER_02:

okay so you know how i went to the canadian brew house last night yeah so apparently with this challenge you get this gigantic ass poutine

SPEAKER_03:

yeah smoky bacon poutine

SPEAKER_02:

no it was like buffalo chicken poutine oh shit And a six patty burger. And you have an hour to finish it and then your meal is free. So we're talking about it and we're like, there's no fucking way. There was another guy that was like doing the challenge when we got there. Oh,

SPEAKER_03:

is he doing?

SPEAKER_02:

He didn't even finish it. He had 15 minutes left and you couldn't finish the poutine.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, if I was going for 45 minutes, I'd be tapping out like that too, bro. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_02:

Apparently, there's a video online of someone doing the challenge.

SPEAKER_03:

No way.

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In three minutes and four

SPEAKER_03:

seconds. What? There's no way.

SPEAKER_02:

Apparently there's a video.

SPEAKER_03:

Show me this video. Find

SPEAKER_02:

it. I haven't watched it. Three

SPEAKER_03:

seconds? Come on.

SPEAKER_02:

But one of the reps showed one of the other reps the video. How big of a mouth

SPEAKER_03:

does this person have?

SPEAKER_02:

I have no idea. But I want to watch it.

SPEAKER_03:

I've got to find it. Find it for me and I'll watch it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, we'll find it in a little bit. That's fucked up, though.

SPEAKER_03:

That's pretty fucked. Yeah, that's gluttony at its finest. Yeah. Holy shit.

UNKNOWN:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Nuts. So anyways, back in St. Louis. Trips doesn't show up. Rock beats Bossman in four seconds with the small package. Now we have a second round match. This is the quarter finals. So now we've gotten through all the useless Al Snow, Double J, Shamrock, Gold Dust, X-Pog, Regal shit out of the way. We're getting to the much better stuff. And we have a quarter final match with Undertaker and Kane, the brothers, going at it. again. How many one-on-one matches have The Undertaker and Kane had in 1998, bro?

SPEAKER_02:

There's been quite a few.

SPEAKER_03:

Holy shit. WrestleMania, Unforgiven, fucking... unforgiven where were they they had the tag match against each other they had fucking matches uh around over the edge they had one at fucking uh breakdown in a triple threat match and they also had a one-on-one at judgment day with austin and now they're having a second round match against each other again because all these two guys do is work with each other pretty much

SPEAKER_02:

i mean they're pretty evenly matched it's very

SPEAKER_03:

true though it's a great rivalry especially in like its first like full year of rivalry now we've had like a year in and they finally start having matches and now all they do is have matches but it's okay because they're usually pretty good matches except for Paul Bear distracting Kane his own son yeah what a ween PB the Paul Bear here the distraction and the tombstone win for the Undertaker and he moves on beats his brother and actually out of all these one on one matches this year how many has Kane won I can think of one. That's

SPEAKER_02:

true.

SPEAKER_03:

One time.

SPEAKER_02:

It's really not. He beat

SPEAKER_03:

Undertaker in a number one contenders match when he got the shot against Austin at King of the Ring.

SPEAKER_02:

It's the

SPEAKER_03:

only time he beat him one-on-one.

SPEAKER_01:

True.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep. Undertaker has won pretty much every other match. And this continues on as he beats him again. We get a quarterfinal match with Mankind and Al Snow, the best friends going at it here, the real-life best friends at the time, Mankind and Al Snow. And Mankind has not had Sokko since Raw. It's been six days since he's had Sokko, and he's getting a little worried, wondering where Sokko is. And Sokko's wrapped around head.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and we found out that Vince did it. Vince

SPEAKER_03:

is the one who... put his hands on the sock and did it, or just got somebody to do it?

SPEAKER_02:

Who knows?

SPEAKER_03:

Probably got one of the stooges to do it, I would assume. But anyways, he gets fucking sock, he finds it, and he's so happy to see him. And then finally he gets the fucking win with Mr. Socko. Sticks it down the gullet of Al Snow and moves on in the tournament. Another quarterfinal matchup is Ken Shamrock, your boy.

SPEAKER_02:

Not my boy. He's so gross and annoying.

SPEAKER_03:

Up against The Rock. People's champion. The people's choice. The most electrifying man in sports entertainment today. It is The Rock. And it's weird to see Rock against Shamrock with Shamrock the Intercontinental Champion and Rock not having a title. It's kind of weird.

UNKNOWN:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03:

Anyways, he gets out of the ankle lock. We get a people's elbow. And here's a really good one, too. So this plays into the whole story. So Bossman comes in again. How many fucking times? This is all going to tie up in the main event, too, or at least in the Austin match with Mankind, is that Bossman's out here again. And he is trying to distract the referee, but he's got the nightstick, and he's kind of holding the referee to the side so he can throw the nightstick into the ring to Shamrock or what it looked like he was going to throw it to Shamrock, but then it got intercepted by the Rock in midair. And Nail Shamrock throws out the nightstick right past the referee. Referee probably should have saw that nightstick flying through the air beside him. But be that as it may, he didn't. He turned around and he counted the one, two, three, and the Rock, second round, wins, goes to the semifinals, and he will face the Undertaker in the semifinals. Holy shit. We still have Rock Undertaker my god we still have austin fucking mankind to go but we have a fucking women's title match too and we have sable versus jacqueline and guess who's the referee it's shane mcmahon

SPEAKER_02:

of course right

SPEAKER_03:

it's shane mcmahon because he's been demoted to referee by

SPEAKER_02:

this but he's like yeah

SPEAKER_03:

I'm the referee now.

SPEAKER_02:

For this one.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course he would want to. Oh, yeah. Jim Ross was like, I wish I was a damn referee for

SPEAKER_02:

this match. Oh, my God. That is something I wouldn't expect him to say, but I'd expect King to

SPEAKER_03:

say. Dude, Jim Ross, deep down, he's such a horny bastard,

SPEAKER_02:

too. It's hilarious.

SPEAKER_03:

He always says that. It's pretty funny. Yeah, certain ones especially. Anyways, we get the women's title match. Sable's looking great in this one. She fucking Sable bombs Meryl on the floor. So she fucking power bombs the shit out of him. And then she gives the Sable bomb to Jacqueline and she becomes the new women's champion. Finally, Sable has a title in WWF. And holy shit, she is here and she's got it. She's finally done it. She beat Jackie. How long will she hold on to this title?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know. I'm just happy she has it and not this

SPEAKER_03:

bitch. Not Jacqueline. So now we have a very popular women's champion in the company. But we have the semifinal matchup. This is a huge one. Mankind Stone Cold semifinals. Winner of this will face either The Undertaker or The Rock in the finals. So, of course, Vince is here once again.

SPEAKER_02:

This man needs to just die.

SPEAKER_03:

Some great stuff that Mankind does in this match. He almost eats a stunner, but then he gets out of it and he literally runs away from the ring after just dodging the fucking stunner. So that was pretty good. Now, of course, Austin hits a stunner, goes to the pin, one, two, and fucking Vince breaks up the count, pulls out Mike Chioda and fucking nails him. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_02:

Gets up out of his fucking wheelchair. Wheelchair. I knew you were faking it, you fucking

SPEAKER_03:

bitch. Oh, shit. The cat is out of the bag, bro.

SPEAKER_02:

I knew it the whole fucking time.

SPEAKER_03:

Vince is magically healed. He went to go interfere in the match, and he luckily did not realize that he's not injured anymore, and now he breaks up the count, so he

SPEAKER_00:

screws Austin and screwed

SPEAKER_03:

him. And so we have some issues out here, though. This is a big problem. So Austin, he'll hit another stunner, right? There's no referee now. We had a ref bump, so there's no referee. And because Kiyota got taken out by Vince. And he hits a stunner. He goes for the three. Shane's in. Shane, who has been working together with Stone Cold the last few weeks. And it gave him the contract and did all this stuff. Comes in. One, two, three. he just stops right in the middle of the three count right as he's going down for the three he stops and austin looks at him he's like what the hell is and he's moving away and then he gives him the double birds bro he flips off austin now here's a gigantic problem with this now at this point what is supposed to happen is boss man comes down again nails austin with the chair and and then Mankind gets the three on Austin. But Austin kind of goes for Shane, and then they stall a little bit, and Austin keeps looking back. He's looking for Bossman. He's wondering where Bossman is. Bossman's not here. Here's the big problem. Bossman can't be found backstage. They're calling for Big Boss Man to be out there. They don't know where he is. They can't find

SPEAKER_02:

him. He's taking a shit.

SPEAKER_03:

Could be taking a shit. Could be doing a line. Could be who knows, right? Who knows what he's doing? Anyways, they legitimately can't find him. So the Stooges come out and shout, Briscoe, feather tink chair shot, as I call it. Feather tink. because he barely hits Austin in the back and it is enough for fucking Mick Foley to get the one two three should have been Bossman it's hilarious Bossman has showed up on time way too many times tonight and the one time he has to on time he actually

SPEAKER_02:

he probably had like

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and it was chaos backstage when it happened

SPEAKER_02:

exploding diarrhea who knows

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possible but they couldn't find him and after the match was over that's when he showed up and you saw him in the back like Vincent them and it's like to a little too late their boss man he missed his fucking cue and the Briscoe chair shot gets the win so obviously Vince takes off they get in the limo and they're fucking you know biffing it they're fucking laminate and Austin goes after them he fucking carjacks a civilian literally just takes this fucking like truck or I know it's like an SUV whatever from this guy right and off he goes in hot pursuit of the McMahons and the fucking now crooked turned ref Shane McMahon. He was actually with his dad the whole time. was not against him, signed Austin back to a contract just because he knew where the moneymaker was. So it was a smart move on their part. Although, obviously, they still hate him and don't want to be world champion. But he's not going to be champion because he's lost in this tournament. Austin is not. We know before the finals that Austin's not winning the title tonight. Unbelievable, because they have guaranteed, not just guaranteed, guaranteed. guaranteed it that there will be a new wwf champion tonight and mankind moves on then we get the other semi-final matchup which is the undertaker and the rock big semi-final matchup but king comes out the referees are a little bit loose with the rules uh in this tournament i found

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yeah

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uh they're a little loose so there's a bunch of disqualifiable things going on and they're not disqualifying anybody for it but now this time it's so egregious he can't not can't not not not fucking disqualify uh undertaker here but kane comes out and he fucking Chokeslams the rock after Undertaker already chokeslammed the rock. How many people's elbows are we going to see tonight? We saw people's elbow on Shamrock. We saw people's elbow on Undertaker. and uh yeah so we're gonna move on and obviously the rock he just finished this grueling semping final match uh and he wins by his qualification because kane chokeslammed him and fucked over undertaker and they're definitely not back together because they're brawling as always and brawl to the back brother but now that means the rock is going to be in the finals but obviously he can't work the next match right away in the finals when mankind's been resting for the last match right

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yeah

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so they have to stick like what we call a pin piss break match and so this is where you put the guys that no one really cares about I mean some of them yes sometimes but you kind of put them in a match where shit doesn't really mean a lot and we have it in there to fill time and use our talent and they know how to get things over and that would be not so much with one team but definitely with other two other teams we have the new age outlaws

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Oh, you didn't know? Jesse!

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James!

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Better call somebody!

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Yeah, the guys that stole our intro, of course, the ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, they totally lifted that from me, right? I originally did that first, right? Yeah. Of course, yeah. How? New Age Outlaws, they're up against Headbangers, and it's a triple threat tag title match, so obviously the Outlaw rules in place so no one can pin their own partner and win the match. So I love how they instituted that rule after that happened. But anyways, the Outlaws, Headbangers, and Marcus Henry and D'Lo is really just a throwaway match. It is really not much going on here. I mean, they isolate Road Dogg for pretty much most of the

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match. The only thing going on is fucking the guy with the cutouts in his shorts.

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Mr. Ass, Badass Billy Gunn.

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Yeah, he had cutouts in his shorts so you could see his ass cheeks. And then he was wearing a G-string under that and he mooned the crowd.

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Did you know that he had cutouts? You know what he used to cut those out? Wasn't it? Scissors. Oh, my God. Scissor big. You get it now? Yeah. Yeah, you got it. Yeah, cutouts that he uses his scissors to fucking cut through. Anyways, he wins by pile drivers. Kind of nothing. He gets a hot tag and ends up winning and moons the crowd. Great. Awesome. He hasn't got a good ass, though. Pretty good ass. I don't know. Depends on what your taste in asses is. Yours

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is really scrawny.

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Huh? Mine?

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Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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Oh, I know. I wish it was better, but it's not.

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Just gotta do more squats.

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Yeah, it's all about the squats, bro. Yeah, no, I'm good. And then we get world title match. Finally, we're going to have a world champion after like a couple of months of not even having one. It's weird that vacant has been the champ for the last couple of months now. defending the title every single night, multiple times a night, vacant, just putting in the hours, putting in the reps, vacant with its 712th world title reign or just championship reign, period. And it's The Rock and Mankind. Did you think that this would be the final?

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No.

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Rock and Mankind. No, I don't think you did. You thought that Austin would definitely be involved. Rock would definitely be involved. But what about Austin? And what about Taker and Kane?

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Yeah.

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Very plausible to win this tournament because they're all former world champions when Mankind of the Rock aren't. So we know whoever wins this match is going to be their first world title win either way that it goes so that's pretty an entertaining way to decide a vacant title is two guys who have never won it before and of course Vince and Shane are here because Vince McMahon's gotta be out here every Survivor Series whether he's fucking announcing or he's ringside he's always ringside and he's there and he's looking to screw people over that he doesn't like hellish intense match though we said all throughout the show no one went even remote Totally close to the Spanish announce table. And now we have gotten to the point where I said in this match, I was like, oh, we haven't had a Spanish table spot yet. What the hell is going on? And I spoke a little bit too soon. We got a Spanish table spot. Yeah. In the main event, which was

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great. They had to save it.

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Yeah, they had to save the table for the end. Yeah, fair enough. They really did.

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It was a tournament, so they had to have the Spanish announce table intact for most of the tournament.

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Yeah, exactly right. So, makes sense. It's amazing that it actually made it that far without somebody actually accidentally going there and do something about it. But either way, we got fucking Mr. Sockle. The claw goes on the rock and he gets him down for a very long two count. But then, of course, the rock gets up. He stares at Vince and Shane and gives the people's eyebrow, raises the one eyebrow, much like I'm doing right now, raises that people's eyebrow. Seems like he really does this a lot when he's making a turn, when he's making a big change in his life. career and he puts mankind in a fucking sharpshooter and Vince tells the ring ringside guys the bell guy to ring the fucking bell and end this match even though mankind never submitted or said he gave up so

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here we are sounds familiar

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Yeah, I wonder. It does sound familiar. You think that maybe WWF slash E, you think they're going to do this every once in a while? Do a screw job? Just screw somebody out of the title like that? Keep making reference to it and doing it and what have you? You think

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they'd get some new material after a while?

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Yeah, they got to try to think of something every single week and every single match to try to come up with these ideas, right? And you know what? I think this one. Worked out pretty well for The Rock, not so much for Austin. But anyways, Rock wins the title, his first world title, two years after we started this podcast, just over two years, when The Rock debuted in our second episode. We also had a promo and a video package in our first episode, promoing his upcoming debut at Madison. Garden and him winning and being the sole survivor in his first match. Two years later, actually a year later, tapping to Ken Shamrock in a Survivor Series eight-man tag to this year winning the fucking world title in the main event. and also hugging Vince McMahon and Shane McMahon in the process and cutting a promo on the fans and saying that you're all a bunch of pieces of trailer park trash and The Rock's the champ and he's the best. And now he's not the people's champ anymore. He's the corporate champ because that's the thing. fucking Vince always wanted a good looking dude that dresses nice that's a great wrestler that's charismatic to be the world champion and be the face of the company and Austin fucked all that up by who he was but he was the most popular because of it and now he wanted his you know handpicked champion it's not Kane who's a mutilated freak it's not the Undertaker who's the devil and it's not fucking Stone Cold Steve Austin it's The Rock it's not Mankind because even though they were helping mankind. They

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were doing it

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to confuse people. And then same with trying to do things to The Rock. You brought it up in the last couple podcasts that Vince's anger for Rocky seems unjust so quickly.

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Yeah, that was like two episodes or something.

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A couple episodes ago and then all of a sudden he hates The Rock. It's like, why? What did The Rock ever do to him? Nothing?

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It felt very...

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And although Vince did have to take a rock bottom on the raw to really sell that, you know, they weren't together, but I guess that's all fair and love and more. But anyways, it

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was very sudden

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rock. fights his way into the tournament wins the tournament but you see all the things that they did to you know hurt him but actually helped him boss man coming in losing in four seconds they planned that he would lose in four seconds so he didn't have to have a long first match the throw of the nightstick to shamrock was it a just a weak throw because he knew the rock would grab it and nail shamrock you know and then all of a sudden here we go once again right And it looks like they're hurting The Rock, but they're actually sneakily helping The Rock the entire time. And now they have their handpicked corporate champion who looks the part, sounds the part, and is an amazing wrestler. And it has a huge fan base. But now they're going to hate him again for a little bit because he is Vince's boy now. Vince and The Rock together. How is this going to work out? And how long will this last is the question. We're in November.

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I don't like it.

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And that's the way it is, brother. Get used to it. Austin eventually does come out. I guess he found his way back through I-10 or I-9 or wherever they were in St. Louis. And he drove back and he saw that Rock was there and they do a little brawl and a brouhaha and then fucking everybody else comes in and they all do the same fucking thing. And Austin gets some stunners and it's all fun. And here we are on our way to the end of the year going into the Royal Rumble in January. We have a December pay-per-view. Oh, wouldn't you know the next pay-per-view hmm it's in december uh december 98 where was it general motors place i think it was uh better known now as rogers arena really uh oh what do you know uh it's rock bottom in vancouver Rock turns heel, joins Vince, and next month has a pay-per-view named after him because Vince. And that's the bottom line because Vince McMahon said so. all makes sense now hey

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there you

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go right see i got the context on uh i would eat your heart if i was a dog and now you get uh context on rock bottom in 98 why is it called rock bottom why is it named after the rock it's because he's the corporate champ now he is the fucking company's champion and he is the best according to according to vince And we all know whoever's the best according to Vince is probably not the best. But you never know. Rock's pretty damn good. Are you here for another Rocky heel turn? Like a year? A year and a half after his last one?

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That's a little soon, it

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feels like. Yeah, he's turned heel twice now. And yeah, this little face run that he had after SummerSlam till now, it was kind of short. When you think about it, it was only September, October, and half of November, right? But he was definitely shown a lot and featured heavily in that time. Triple H, with his injury, he's not even there. And now Rock has just completely taken over, right?

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Yeah.

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So now he's champ. He's even higher than Austin, right? right? But Austin's still, you know, the big baby face, right? So you have the baby face heel. Because Austin obviously needs a credible opponent for the world title scene, right? And, you know, he's been through Kanan Undertaker long enough. He's been through Mankind, Do Love, you name it, enough times. Is it time for somebody else? The Rock?

SPEAKER_02:

Makes sense, right? To turn him heel? Your fucking socks give away so much. Oh,

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man, I know. Literally the fucking match at WrestleMania. But what match, though? That is the question. Would it be a main event match? Or would it actually be...

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its main event because of the fact that there's fucking socks for it. There's

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socks? You know what, though? Can I give this away? I don't think we're going to watch this. I don't know if we're going to get this far, but anyways... I guarantee there's socks made for another match that's not the main event in other shows. I know another rock match years later that's not the main event of WrestleMania, and it should have been, and they would definitely make socks for that match. But yeah, it would make sense that it's the most popular match because they're literally on socks. But you know what? I don't want to spoil any WrestleMania matches. You already know one of them, so that's okay, but... Shit gets fucking weird in 99, man. And as if things haven't gotten weird already in 98, man, they just really go places. And we're here for it, bro. What's your rating though, bro?

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4.6. 4.6.

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Zero.

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I mean, we skipped a lot of the bullshit, so that made it a lot easier. Helped the rating a

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lot.

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And, yeah.

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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We really enjoyed it with all the good stuff that happened. The last couple pay-per-views for us have been pretty good, especially

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this one. Some of them are really shit.

SPEAKER_03:

Those are a few ago, though. Specifically this one and Judgment Day were both quite good. Yeah. Especially this one. This one was awesome because you had the whole storytelling all throughout the night when it looks like they're trying to help mankind, but they weren't. And they're helping The Rock sneakily the whole time. And, you know, it's just amazing how it all played out one night. And now we're in this new storyline where fucking The Rock is with Vince McMahon in a corporation with the Stooges and fucking Shane and all these people. The Big Boss Man. So Big Boss Man and The Rock are pals now. Like they have tag team matches together and shit. Right? You know, like, what the fuck? So this is just

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going to... Did you just give something away? I

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mean, they could be tag team. I don't think anybody really would care if they're a fucking tag team or not. But I don't know. I mean, you could look at like some piece of paper on that wall and find out for yourself.

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I haven't looked.

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Oh, you haven't looked?

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No.

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Wow. That's a lot of spoilers over there.

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Well, now I know where to look.

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Damn, dude.

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maybe

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i should uh hide it so you don't can't see spoilers

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dude

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yeah bro anyways uh 4.60 very nice i love it happy with your rating happy with the show happy with both shows and uh we're going on whole new pass pretty quick here brother on the thwf and i thought like a fucking pay-per-view that had that much shit go on uh we skipped past a lot of bullshit that we really didn't need yeah why would we ever need to watch shamrock and gold dust in a fucking quarter fight our first round matchup what the fuck are they gonna do that's gonna really make me want to watch that match

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yeah what is

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fucking al snow gonna do to make me want to watch unless he's getting his ass kicked by mankind then i'll watch yeah right But, you know, who's going to watch that shit? Who's going to watch fucking X-Pac and Regal in a double count out? Oh,

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God.

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So I'll pass, and I'll stay with the good shit here at THWF Podcast at treehillwf.podcast on the socials, including Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and threads. Listen to us on all the streaming services, including

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Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube Music, and iHeart Radio.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, boy. So how'd you feel about your fourth ever Survivor Series? How'd you feel? It

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was all right. Yeah,

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it's pretty good. Some good shit going on.

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And

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it's just going to keep going until next year. Royal Rumble, bro.

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Yeah.

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I think Austin, Royal Rumble, won the last two, right? Now he's not champion. Maybe he has to compete in the Royal Rumble. Get back there again. I don't know. I tell you, the twists and turns are endless on both shows. As I am Sean Harris.

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And I am Erin Costner. I thought

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we would talk a little longer on this episode because of how long this pay-per-view was, but luckily we skipped so much bullshit that we didn't have to talk about. Saved us some time.

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Thank the Lord.

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And here

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we are, brother. Because a bitch is tired.

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Same. And of course, I am Sean Harris.

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We already did this, and I am Erin Cosgrove.

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Do we already do that? Yes, we do. We already forgot that we did that, much like you forgot that you said sisters. Fuck off. And I am, Sean. Oh,

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my God, dude.

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I just have to say it multiple times like wrestlers do.

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I'm damn sick and tired, sick and, sick and, sick and tired of watching you, watching you, watching you. I'm going to throw something at you.

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I'll just bid you adieu then.

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And I say bye, bitch.

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play your cards break the rules that's that's who you are whoever said play it safe never played the game so many players but too many pawns too many judges say what's Let them jump into the fire If they want to play Make your mistakes, but no second chances Every time that you stand up, there's another chance to fall

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