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Associate clinical professor Ford Dyke is called to play many roles — and each one proves its worth in gold.

“Each day it's a different hat, but to me it's all an Auburn experience,” he said.

Fourteen years ago, the Florida native made his way to the Plains to pursue both a master’s and doctorate in Auburn’s School of Kinesiology. Today, he directs Mindfulness@Auburn and travels as a performance coach with Auburn’s three adaptive athletics teams.

“Whether I'm in a classroom teaching students, doing research data collection, or coaching on the sideline, it's all interconnected,” Dyke explained.

Now, armed with a spirit that is not afraid, Dyke is stepping boldly onto the world stage — literally.

In 2024, he was named head coach of the USA Wheelchair Handball National Team. His first call? Fellow Auburn graduate and Olympian Reita Clanton.

“She said, ‘I'm all in,’” Dyke recalled. “If it wasn't for her, I don't think I would be sitting here. She's really the pioneer.”

Dyke, who spent seven years competing with the USA Men’s Handball Team, didn’t hesitate. He built the team from the ground up — securing sponsors, funding, equipment, facilities, staff, and the infrastructure needed to launch a world‑class program.

“We're trying to elevate this sport,” Dyke said. “I'm bringing the best team of athletes and the best staff possible.”

He named Clanton as assistant coach and added former Olympian Lisa Egan from the Shepherd Center in Atlanta. He tapped Eric Finch, who helped launch Auburn’s Team Handball Club, as goalkeeper coach. Camden Bentley, head Athletic Trainer and Strength & Conditioning Coach for Auburn Adapted Athletics, joined the staff along with mental performance coach Derek Sorensen.

Dyke also forged a partnership with Auburn‑Opelika Tourism, giving the team access to elite local facilities. The collaboration has become a cornerstone of the team’s rise — representing not only the stars and stripes, but the grit, pride, and resilience of our region and Auburn University on a global stage.

“When Team USA gets involved, it just raises everything,” Dyke said. “We knew there could be a greater impact if we were able to perform at a high enough level to get more traction, more eyes, more ears, and more awareness on our sport globally.”

And perform they did.

Right out of the gate, the team captured a Silver Medal at the 2024 3rd IHF Wheelchair Handball World Championship and a Bronze Medal at the 2025 4th Euro Hand 4 All.

Now, the team is gearing up for two major international competitions. Both will set the stage for the Los Angeles 2028 and Brisbane 2032 Paralympic Games.

“We've named this year OperationGOLD,” Dyke said. “We travel to France on June 24 and play July 1 through 5. We return in August, recalibrate, and go again to Barcelona, Spain, September 14 through 21 for the World Championships.”

This weekend, adaptive athletes from across the country will gather at Auburn’s Lake Wilmore Park Recreation Center for selection camp. The final roster will draw heavily from athletes in wheelchair basketball, tennis, and rugby.

“A lot of the fundamental aspects of adaptive sports are universal — making sure your wheelchair is just an extension of your body,” said team hopeful Jay Denning.

Denning, a Nashville native and graphic design major in Auburn’s College of Architecture, Design and Construction, was a hoops standout on last year’s national championship‑winning Auburn University Wheelchair Basketball team.

“The hardest part was learning how to dribble differently,” Denning said. “In handball everything must be overhand and you're using your entire upper body in this windmill mechanic. It's kind of a learning curve, but I love learning, so it's great.”

All athletes, including Denning, are self‑funded. All coaches, including Dyke, are volunteers.

To remove financial barriers, Dyke — with the help of his mother and uncle — founded The 24 Fund, Inc., a nonprofit dedicated to supporting adaptive athletes.

“We have to ensure we have the right support for our athletes,” Dyke said. “I don't want any athlete or any staff member worrying about anything except for what's at stake.”

Next week, the team will drop game‑changing news — a brand with global reach is signing on as an Official Partner of the USA Wheelchair Handball National Team through The 24 Fund, Inc.

“I don't know if I'll coach forever, but I see myself running the nonprofit,” Dyke said. “We want to provide resources to any adapted athlete competing for Team USA at the world championship or Paralympic levels.”

That mission resonates deeply with Denning, whose mother taught him never to let his disability define his limits.

“I'm surrounded by greatness and just creating my brotherhood of lifelong friends,” Denning said.

For Dyke, this gold-defining moment is the spark shaped by every hat he wears — and every ounce of Auburn‑fueled purpose he carries.

“It's a way to impact the world and leave it a little bit better than when I found it,” he said. “We're not here that long, so I'm trying to have a great reach and return the investment on behalf of my mentors who passed that baton to me.”

SUPPORT TEAM USA, plus stay locked into the team’s pursuit of OperationGOLD on Instagram.

The OperationGOLD Elite Athlete Selection Camp for Team USA Wheelchair Handball is open to the public June 12–14, 2026 at Lake Wilmore Park in Auburn. Come watch seven high‑energy training sessions as Team USA grinds toward gold:

Friday, June 12 | 3–5 p.m. | 6:30–7:30 p.m.

Saturday, June 13 | 9–10 a.m. | 11:30 a.m.–1 p.m. | 5:30–7 p.m.

Sunday, June 14 | 9–10 a.m. | 11:30 a.m.–1 p.m.

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Welcome into Everything Auburn, the monthly podcast we have here on the campus, Auburn University. We get to meet members of the Auburn family and get to learn more about what they do and what makes them so special. I'm Carter, and I'm so glad that you're here. Joining me I got two special their very talkative and fun guests. We've already had a good time before we recorded, so I'm looking forward to this one. I have Ford Dyke Head Coach, USA, Wheelchair Handball National Team and member. Hopefully. I guess we just got to make sure the team gets announced here, so we're fingers crossed. On member of wheelchair national handball team Jay Denning. Welcome to the podcast gentlemen. Thank you card. Appreciate it. You guys for having us. Hey I'm glad you guys are here. I'm looking forward to it. I want to know everything about team handball, how it started. You're we're talking on the way over here, if I may. Godfather of the team. You've created the team out of nowhere. A lot of work I can only imagine went into it. Well, walk me through how we started to. How we got here, how Auburn became the home for this, which is so incredible for a US national team that is here at Auburn. How do we get to where we're at? It's a long story to say the least. I'll keep it as condensed as possible. So I started here in 2012 as a master's student. When I came off of undergraduate studies in psychology, I decided to come to Auburn and study the human body. So exercise science was my field in the school of kinesiology. One year later, I tried out for the men's Indoor National team, which there was a residency program here on campus from 2013 to about 2018 for five years. And I played all the way through Covid. Once Covid hit, my coach retired. I retired. All the while. I had thought about coaching during that process in that sport specifically, but I just didn't really ever think of the way it would transpire, how it is now. And so, as an aside, during the 2012 to 2020 window, I was on the sideline and still am on the sideline with Auburn adopted athletics, specifically wheelchair basketball. And I always thought those worlds were pretty separate and isolated until one of my former teammates from the national governing body of USA, Team Handball, gave me a call November of 23. And he said, are you aware of wheelchair handball? And I thought it was kind of a typo. I thought he was trying to talk about basketball. Yeah, yeah. And I said, no, man, I've never heard of this. What's going on? And he said, there's about 20 teams at the time around the world. It started in the 90s. US was interested. They want to submit a wild card to the upcoming World Championships, which is September of 2024. And he said, we can't really think of anyone else that has indoor elite experience from the athletic side of team handball. I played beach as well and wheelchair specific coaching experience, so we thought, well, let's smash those worlds together and assign you as the head coach. What do you think? I'm like, oh yeah, I have nothing else going on. Figure it out. Yeah, sure. But he said, you know, we don't have resources. We don't. You don't have a team, you don't have coaches, you don't even have goals. You don't have equipment or balls. You have nothing. So do you still want to do it? And I was like, give me like 48 hours, you know, let me, let me like marinate a little bit on this one for a second. So my first call was Olympian Rita Clinton. At the time we had worked together from 2012 and beyond. And and she said, I'm all in. And I was like, all right, well, we can't go back now. You know, I got I got my first Olympian on staff. That's great. And then that just evolved to the second Olympian, Lisa Egan, at a Shepherd Center in Atlanta. And she's a 96 Olympian. She's actually read as athlete. Rita was a coach in 96. So you'll start to see how crazy this family lineage starts to, you know, evolve. Quite the big family tree here. It's pretty wild. Yeah. And so we started talking to Anthony turtling over at Auburn Opelika Tourism who we had relationships before ten years before that. And he said I'm all in. We'll talk to Robin Bridges. We'll figure some things out. And so this is all about January through March, maybe April of 24. And we're just trying to get things set up in a way that if we receive the wild card, we would be ready to go. And so May 16th. My phone rings. Never forget it. And they said, hey, we got the wild card. You still, you still in, you still committed. I was like, oh man, this is crazy. You know, starting something from nothing and then going to a world championship level to compete is probably not the smartest thing to do. But, you know, I said whatever, let's do it. And end of the deep end. Yeah. We just fully went in and I said to a lot of the staff and a lot of the early recruits that were not just going there to show up and participate. We want to make sure that we play in the final match for that gold medal. And people like, I don't know about all that. He's kind of crazy to say that. But like the confidence, yeah, you have to go with, you know, what's in sight and reverse engineer and work backwards. So that is a whole other documentary and of itself. We ended up winning the silver medal and that really kickstarted the program, which was wild. We lost to Egypt in the final match. We took down Brazil in a double shootout in semis, which they were the reigning champions, and it shocked the world. That was really our gold medal match like as an aside. And so we returned in September. It took me about a month to really figure out what day or time it was, just because of everything that happened leading up to that. And then once we got to that December into the next cycle of 25, our phone rang again and France reached out and they said, hey, we want to invite you. Your top team already come on over, compete in this tournament. And that's really where our elite athlete pool expanded, our staff expanded. We brought on a goalkeeper coach. We brought on other technical directors, athletic trainers, strength conditioning coaches, everyone's volunteer, including myself, everyone's self-funded, including myself. We all have day jobs. We all have legitimate things going on. Everything else is is added to it. So it's incredible. It's a lot, but it's a very unique experience. And I'm sure we'll talk about the idea of getting it into the Paralympic Games that's on the horizon. So I'll leave that question for you. We'll get we'll get that. But that's pretty much it in a nutshell. You know, it's how it all started. And it goes back to, I always say goes back to Rita Clinton playing here in the 70s and playing team handball out of Auburn, and she's a Hall of Fame athlete here at Auburn University. And if it wasn't for her, I really don't think that I would be sitting here. I don't think any of our staff would be doing what we're doing. I don't think we would have that exposure on the team USA level for the sport. She's really the pioneer. She wrote the book. I Have It in my office, the literal book. She actually wrote a book. Team handball, read a clan. It's in my office. It's signed by her and everything. And I tell her, I'm like, you wrote the book. You're going to be on the staff. Yeah. She just she's so chill and so humble and just smiles and grateful and like, we got the dogs on the staff. So let's get the athletes and let's make it happen. Absolutely. I think it's one thing we've talked about here a lot. We talked about with extension. We talked about it with other programs we've had on here that Auburn is doing some really incredible stuff in Auburn in the community with their students. But I think some of the coolest stuff that Auburn does is when it goes outside of Auburn, outside of the state, outside of the country, even. And to have a US national team here that's going to compete in Europe, in France, you know, doing all of this and it kind of doing it for the country, but also doing it for the university. And it's based here with Auburn people. Is is pretty impressive for sure. Now Jay. I wanted to this is your chance here. You're a converted basketball player. Yeah. Spent time in hoops. Don't get choked up on me now. How did you make the transition from hoops? Which I understand you've been playing most of your life to the team handball years. Yeah. Well, so the conversion for me, it was it wasn't really hard because a lot of the fundamental aspects of just adaptive sports in general are kind of universal. So like your chair skills, making sure that your wheelchair is just an extension of your body. I mean, you need to know how to move regardless of whatever sport you play. That'd be helpful. Yeah, very. You know, and then defense being able to know how to stop a chair when it stop a chair and spacing all of that is pretty much the same. Except, you know, it's only three people plus a goalkeeper. So it's just like a tighter the tighter net to hold on to. And you want to force them out just like wheelchair. Well, it's the opposite of what your basketball because you want to force them to the mid. But the communication all of that a lot a lot of skills just transferred over. The hardest part was learning how to dribble differently, you know, short a little muscle memory. Yeah. You know because with the basketball, not only with the basketball being bigger, but you can just dribble however you need to, you know. But with a handball everything has to be like overhand. Can't do too much fancy word, you know. But and then the other the other aspect I would say is getting used to using my entire body for shooting, because at least with basketball, it's just one motion up here. I mean, you start out in your pocket, but you can bring it up and handball. You're using your entire upper body, this entire windmill mechanic. And with me, it's kind of a learning curve, but I'm I love learning anyway, so that's great. I noticed he's demonstrating as he's doing it. It's just an excuse to show off the guns. It's pretty nice. It's yeah, that's good form. They kind of help. They help, they help, they help. So. But you spent time at Auburn so you're alum. You spent time in Auburn playing wheelchair basketball here. Yeah. Walk me through some of those. Experience some of your favorite memories from that as well. Oh well of course my number one favorite is one that NetEase this past season. Yeah there we go. There we go. Especially against Bama you know war. Damn it. Yeah. But it's also just creating my brotherhood. You know some of my teammates these are going to be lifelong friends. You know Jake Eastwood I came in as freshmen with him. And now he's just an all time leading scorer in Auburn. And I mean like across able bodied basketball that's what we call it. And wheelchair basketball. But being around team USA level athletes because we have Drew Beutel, we have Adam Smith, a lot of other athletes who have made it to try out for team USA or have made it onto team USA, so just playing with other high level athletes while also being able to, you know, better. Myself as an athlete, man, I can't even if I if I start talking too much, it's going to be too long, you know, and I know we have a little bit of a time. Hey, man, let's go. Let's get into rip it, rip it. But it all stemmed from coach Rob. Without having a good coach, I honestly would not be here. I've been around coach for over ten years, so I kind of already knew I was going to come to Auburn. He coached my juniors, wheelchair basketball coach Emily Hoskins in the Olympics. They won bronze. And then just to find out, he continued to keep coaching after that and be a three time Paralympic winning coach. You know, I was like, you know what? It's pretty good. Yeah. And and and everything. Auburn podcast alum Coach Robert. Exactly. He's just a everything man. You know that's something I want to follow. And so just to have someone like him who is as experienced as he is, being able to accumulate all this talent to build up the program, he said it was going to be a ten year process, and he trusts for it and he has a ten year process. So I'm just surrounded by greatness. So I mean, that's that's one thing that really sticks out to me in Auburn. I don't think I would like any other school as much. And then another one of my favorite core memories is actually just there's this guy on Whitewater, right? No, no, no, you said it. This one out. No no no you don't. We won't. We? It was also during nationals. But you know coach he we kind of had to just we didn't let him do what he wanted to do, but we did at the same time. And coach kind of got a little upset or just passionate, we'll say. And he said he saw me and said, JT, stop a chair, you know. And Sara went out there. You know, we got defensive turnover after turnover and turnover like we were getting defensive stops. And he had like four fouls already. As soon as I come out there I just stopped his chair and we have a picture of it. He's pretty much just sitting in my lap with the basketball in his hand. Sheriff came so good. And like I think my dad has it as a wallpaper on his phone. And it's just like an iconic moment in my head because just I pride myself on defense, you know, you can ask for, you can ask yourself, defense is where I shine. And that right there, especially during nationals where it's being broadcasted. Oh yeah, it's nice. That's a that's a key moment for me. So you mentioned he mentioned that you have a ten year plan. So here we go. It's a great chance part of that getting into the Paralympic Games, what that process is and what the future is coming up and what's whole walk me through that why you want you know, why you want to do it. I think that's pretty obvious why you want to do it, what the plan is and how you kind of gotten to where and what the future's holding for you guys. It started in 2022 with the first Wheelchair Handball World Championships in Cairo, Egypt. There were only six teams there at the time. We were not there. We didn't start until 24. Like I said earlier, once 24 started, we got into the mix. It's good for every sport. When team USA gets involved, it just elevates everything. So selfishly. We wanted to be involved, but also globally. We knew there could be a greater impact if we were able to perform at a high enough level to get more traction, more eyes, more ears, more awareness on this sport globally. So once 24 hits, 25 comes around silver, bronze, now 26, 26. We've named this year Operation Gold. We have the opportunity to in two major competitions and they're essentially back to back. We head out June 24th to France. We play the first through the fifth and July. We returned August. Recalibrate ready to go again for Barcelona, Spain. That'll be September 14th to the 21st. That's World Championships 12 teams. So the amount of teams is already doubled since the first World Championships. So the growth of the sport is constantly moving forward in the right direction. Your question about the ten year plan 2032 is the first opportunity for this sport to be in a Paralympic Games on full Paralympic docket, full Paralympic conclusion. So we work backwards from that process. I came into it on year two, so it's really an eight year plan, but I envision it moving forward past 2032 of course. Right. Well hopefully. Right. Exactly. So hopefully there's sustainability with it. So with that we were asked we as in all of the federations around the world, all 25 we were asked to submit our current status is what they called it. And to me it was another dissertation. It was insane. It was all details A to Z alpha to a mega, down to the granular level on all the nuances of everything they wanted. The A's dotted the T's cross and even the JS dotted. Wow. And so we submitted that to the International Handball Federation, which is our international governing body. They submitted that to the International Paralympic Committee to determine they get a whole slate of different sports, and they determine they make the decision on once or this one once or this one next time, next time. Good luck. So we are waiting right now in the board minutes. Just this past January, a few months ago, it says direct quote, everything looks promising. All box have been checked. Essentially we're just waiting on a few more things. And those few things are the upcoming World Championships because Oceana, namely Australia and New Zealand, they're interested in building programs as well. So the global reach is getting broader and broader, which is really important. And I'm trying to have as many foreign relations as possible. It's challenging right now, to say the least, that's getting to talk to some of these countries and people and absolutely. Yeah, a lot of WhatsApp's, a lot of zoom calls, a lot of emailing, a lot of shaking hands and kissing babies and just trying to come with an olive branch. I think a lot of times when you show up with stars and Stripes can go one of two ways, especially now with geopolitical happening. It's like, look, we're trying to elevate this sport. Don't judge me for anything else. I'm going to bring the best team of athletes, the best staff possible, and we'll try to get this to the next level. So there's a lot of things we have control of, but there are even more things that we have no control of, and we just have to have the faith and just stay with the process that this is supposed to happen. And I have to make sure that I'm setting myself up for six years ahead of time today, which is challenging because you have everything else that is leading up to an upcoming competition a training camp, selection process, recruitment, nurturing athletes, making sure people are submitting materials. That's a lot. Anything and everything. Yeah we are. We're a tight family and we do a lot of different work, but every coach has to be able to do about ten jobs at once. And that's the nature of adapted athletics in general. So I was you know, you mentioned earlier you have day jobs as well. Right? So I think this is a good chance to kind of mention that here, because I've heard you use a lot of words that I would imagine associate more with your day job. Right. So you're director of mindfulness at Auburn as well? Correct. Yeah. You know, coaching a team adaptive like cultivating this, you know, as your baby and kind of building it from nothing. I'm curious kind of how you've managed to add some of those elements. I'm curious what you've you've seen him do as well from that like mental process and that mindfulness process that if you could walk me through some of that stuff as well, because I think, I think a lot of it applies in how you've been able to grow this from nothing to where it is today and where it's hoping to go for sure. As well said. It's a great question. I think what's interesting about all the different hats that I wear, it's each day it's a different hat each maybe our it's a different hat and you know, there's there's titles and there's roles and there's responsibilities. But to me it's it's all in Auburn experience. It's all interconnected. Whether I'm in a classroom teaching students, whether I'm delivering a speaking engagement through mindfulness at Auburn, whether I'm doing research data collection, whether I'm at a conference, travel and disseminating information, whether I'm coaching on the sideline, whether I'm working with our athletes for performance coaching, working them with nutrition or sleep or exercise or anything. From a recovery standpoint, to me, it's all interconnected. It just depends on what microphones, on what screens on, what cameras on. And I can get into that role and get into that hat. So as far as embedding all of this together, it's my story. And it's a lot of it is is my mission, you know, and it's a way to continue to impact the world and leave it a little bit better than what I found it. I mean, we're not here that long, as far as I'm concerned. So I'm trying to make sure that I have a great reach and be able to return that investment because of all the mentors, because of all the people that have passed that baton to me. I just want to make sure that I leave it in the right hands and to elevate anyone that I interface with, whether it's athlete, coach, you know, a journalist that doesn't think we're going to play in the final match. And I tell them, direct quote will play in the final match. Whatever it is, is just elevate the experience and make sure that we're all moving in the right direction. Sweet. That's awesome. Now, J, I wanted to talk about your day job as well, which is a bit of a shift here, but if I understand correctly, you're a bit of a TikTok star. Okay? You know, I was going to stay. I was going to say a student maybe, but you know that to those that too. But yeah, just kind of some of the things that goes around your life as well. But one thing that we have found through our research is, is your many a TikTok challenges as well, which I have officially dubbed your day job. Yes. Well, it's funny you say that because I've been thinking about getting back into TikTok, but I kind of did that because of Covid and because of how my mom raised me. She said, you're not going to let your disability stop you with anything that you do, nor will I let you be lazy. So during Covid, you know, it was kind of pretty hard to find something, quote unquote, productive time to be lazy. Yeah. But as a house, I mean, we would work around the house as a family. We were able to clean up our house. We have a new ramp in front of it now. But for TikTok, I was like, you know what? Let's this is a time where folks need to be exposed to more than just what is in their box. And I was like, what better way than to show them that? Hey. Hi, guys. I'm going to wheelchair, but I live the exact same as you. I'm still living my life regardless of the shutdown that we had. And so I just wanted to brighten everyone's day. And that's kind of how I. Everything I did from all the requests, you know, it started out with a push up challenge, you know, and kind of just took off from there. But because I went to college, I kind of stopped because I wanted to focus on my studies. That's good. You know, that was smart doing that plays basketball at the time. I'm in graphic design and that actually takes a lot of resources. No, it's not just an arts and crafts major because yeah, no, there's a lot from our heart. I'm an artiste artiste as well. So I guess you understand I just kind of French a little. There's a little bit. Yeah. And so I've just I started spending a lot of hours in the studio and it was kind of sad to see my TikTok just like slowly fading to the distance. But now, as I've completed my wheelchair basketball career, it opened up a little bit of free time to where I might combined doing TikToks with some of the streaming to fill in some of those gaps. But I'm also doing senior project at the same time, so it's going to be a little bit of a mix. There's a lot. There's a lot. Yeah, but I can only imagine some of the fun things, you know, being a part of an international team, get to go some pretty cool places, see some cool sights, do some really incredible traveling. And I can only imagine some experience you guys have had outside of actually playing. Oh yeah. Yeah, experiences. That's a good way. Yeah, experience is probably the best word. I mean, the views are also like beautiful. Just even though it was my first and only time being out of the country like that, being in Leone, it was just beautiful. You know, we even went to a cathedral. That was my first like actual legitimate, like European style Gothic cathedral. And it was like, wow. I took art history literally a semester before I was like, wow, I studied that, I know, I know what kind of art style like a fresco painting was. I was like, what kind of paint? They got flying buttresses? Yeah. I was like, wow. Why do I know about this? But it was actually sick to be able to apply in the knowledge that I got from school in the outside world, because you get to appreciate it more. And then to do that with Ford and some of the guys that I've known for years, it was just like for some reason it was really bonding to me. Know that makes a lot of sense. Vibes. It's good vibes. Yeah, that's good vibes. Well, I wanted to make sure we got to, we got to the we're at the Shameless plug part of the podcast here where you get to to shout out your stuff. This is this is the this is the ask part. So I want to make sure you got a chance to talk about 24 fun and then any other opportunities that people listening can find you to watch you to, to go travel, see you events you have. This is this is your moment. This is your shining moment. Awesome. I'll work backwards. So I'm not a big social media guru or anything like that, but I understand the value of the leverage it helps and the traction and the like and subscribe. And you know, the algorithms hit the bell, hit the bell. You know, hit the notification button, whatever else they say. JD anyway, he's the pro, but we've got Instagram account that you can follow us on USA wheelchair handball. And all of our information is on that as well. We have websites for USA Wheelchair Handball National team. And what's interesting about social media so far is that when this episode comes out, we're on the verge of a title sponsor, and there's a large community that the title sponsor has, and we're really excited for putting some gas, a lot of gas on the fire when it comes to the reach from a global standpoint, not so much. Just adopted athletics one region of the country. Yes, we're a decentralized national team. Yes, we're traveling and training internationally. This would be more a catalyst to really get the world to wake up to what we're doing and lead up to both France and Spain this year and beyond for LA 28 and Brisbane 32. So that's TBD. There's a few more things that need to be finalized. I'll be on the lookout. Please be on the lookout. It's going to be exciting. And then as far as the 24 fund is concerned, that's a nonprofit that was started on behalf of myself and some of my family, namely my mother. She's a CFO. She's been doing this for about 40 years. And when it comes to the correct appropriations of funds and sources and uses and making sure that the secretarial and the Treasury work is done to a tee, we're in a leak team. We also have to make sure our books are leaked to ensure that we have the right support for our athletes, even though they're self-funded and they're trying to get themselves to training camps when we ship out on final roster, I don't want any athlete, any staff member worrying about anything except for what's at stake. And what's at stake is, of course, like we said, Operation Gold. So that nonprofit was started with myself, my mother and my uncle. He is our vice president and he's been an executive for over 35 years. You know, I pulled some boomers in for a reason. Hey, they're pretty smart and they know how to get the job done and they've got a lot of reach. And so it's another hat I have to wear. But add it to the pot. You know, it's just because of the formality. Making sure that this pilot program, USA handball is, is provided with the right resources. But after that, once we're in 32, we bring in the gold medal. I don't know if I'll coach forever. You know, I kind of I'll make that determination. But one thing that I see myself doing is running that nonprofit and making sure that not just one sport, wheelchair handball, is provided with resources. Any team USA adapted athlete in any sport, it could be an adaptive, it could be a pair surfer Paris, no border blind, soccer, anything as long as they're competing for their country, United States of America, and at a either world championship or a Paralympic level, then we would like to provide grants and resources and make sure that their support for them, there's exposure for them. It's an underserved population, and that's unfortunate. So we're trying to make sure barriers are reduced and doors are open for those athletes to be able to perform at the highest level. Spectacular. So it's the 24 fund. There you go. Come check us out. We will like and subscribe. Like and subscribe. That's it. And then you want you want. This is your chance. You want people to follow you on social. This is if you want to build the TikTok. Here's your chance. Guess I guess I want to get back on TikTok. It's JS TV underscore wheeze. So like j s TV underscore w h e. That actually was a typo when I first made it. It was supposed to be Will's, but then I saw weeds. I was like, wait a minute, that's actually funny. And so I kept it. This guy, and that's incredible. And then I mean, happy accidents, right? Yeah. And then my Instagram, I need to change it. I had it just since middle school. It's also typo JD I might change just that, but it's implicit. J implicate with two eyes. I just haven't changed it because I have no idea what I would change it to. It's one of those things where you've had it so long. We're just like, what am I going to do with you? And then if I'm going to get back into streaming nitro booming all over the place, it's a it's a lot of the place. Well, gentlemen, I thank you for joining me. Thanks for telling a little bit about what you guys do. Good luck. Appreciate it. Thank you. Good. I know, I understand you're about to finalize the team, so hopefully you make it. Fingers crossed. Right. We said fingers crossed. Well, good luck with all your travels. Operation gold. I'm so excited to see where you guys go. Hopefully you guys win everything. That's the plan. That's the plan. That's the plan. I love it and thank you guys so much. Thank you for having us. Thank you for listening. We'll be back again next month with more members of the Auburn family. If you like what you heard, you want to hear more. We got a lot of more episodes. We've done one every month for a few years now. So if you want to hear some more, people want to hear coach Rob from a few months ago, he was on here talking to some wheelchair basketball, so we got him to listen to. But until then, War Eagle! War Eagle!