Roots, Culture, and Community in the UAE

In this episode of On the Sofa with British Mums, Emma and Jen are joined by Latifa from the Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Centre for Cultural Understanding. They explore the joy of learning more about Emirati culture and why, for residents, understanding the roots of the country they call home feels so special.

Latifa shares her experiences of witnessing the UAE grow and flourish over the years, while still holding onto a strong sense of pride, peace, and family. Throughout the conversation, there is a clear theme of UAE pride and a warm, welcoming atmosphere.

The episode also shines a light on the incredible work of the Centre and encourages more residents to visit, connect, and enjoy everything it has to offer. It is a heartfelt, eye-opening conversation that celebrates the spirit and culture of the UAE.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:05

Hello and welcome to On the Sofa with British Mums. My name is Emma, and in this episode, Jen and I are joined by Latifa from the Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashad Centre for Cultural Understanding. We talk about the real joy that comes from learning more about Emirati culture and why, as residents, understanding the roots of the country we call home feels so special. Latifa has been part of the UAE story for so many years. She's raised her children here, her family are here, and she shares how she's seen the nation grow and flourish, all while holding on to a deep sense of pride and peace. We also chatted about the incredible work happening at the centre and why we would love more residents. Yes, I'm talking to you, mums and your families, to discover it and experience everything it has to offer. So grab a cover and join us for a warm, eye-opening conversation that celebrates the moment of the UAE. Hello and welcome back to On the Sofa with British Mums. It is a hot, hot week here in the UAE. And joining me today for a really lovely and important podcast. I have got again the wonderful Jen. It is you again in my house and again, in my house and again. I know, and actually that's probably one of the reasons that you're on here so much. But you're becoming quite the pro Jen.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

How do you find a name? It's warm. Um just been it swimming, is it outside and sadly not in the pool at the same time? But yeah, it's ramping up, but it's you know, still manageable first thing, and in the evenings it's quite nice and a bit of a breezy.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Yeah, I have heard on the Great Vine that it's gonna get better for a bit. I I heard that this is a this is a spike, it's a peak, and then it's gonna chill. I actually think we've had some really good weather for quite a long time actually. We didn't think we've gotten lucky this year. Oh, we needed we needed some some wonderful.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

What do you do in the summer about running? I'll keep running, I'll just run early. I'll just keep going. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

I like that, I like that, that's fantastic. Exactly. There you go. Um, it's gone four weeks, I think, until the schools break up for most people. Um obviously we've had quite the eventful year here in the UAE, but I I think that's something that we've all spoken about on multiple podcasts again and again and again, is that I think it's solidified for a lot of people that this is this country's become home. And and that actually that there's a kind of a what's the word, like a pride? I think a sense of pride in kind of the fact that we're raising our families here and we were kept safe in a really, really difficult time, um, and that there was never a falter of that, and that every single resident, every single visitor here was kept safe during a time that was quite hard. Um, and so leading on to I think very well if I do say so myself. Um and joining us today, we have got Latifa. Now, Latifa is the cultural presenter at the Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Centre for Cultural Understanding. Hello Latifa. Hi, everybody. It's so nice to have you here today. Thank you. And how are you? I'm great. How are you? I'm very well, thank you. How are you finding the heat? Very hot. Very hot. Fair enough. Fair enough. Do you now? Here's a first question for you before we jump into talking about the centre. How long have you lived here? Uh 34 years now. 34 years.

SPEAKER_00 3:23

Tell me, does it get easier, the summers? No. But we're so blessed, we're so blessed with the AC.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

Yes, we are. We are blessed with the AC. And actually, that's it. That's a funny story. I have a friend of mine, dear friend of mine, she's pregnant and she lives here. She's pregnant with twins, and she said to me before Eid, the holiday, she said, I'm going back to the UK because I'm really struggling with the heat. And then they had a heat wave. Yeah, and they've got no AC. And the whole week I kept thinking about her being in the UK but with no AC. So we love the AC. We were just talking about that. I think more people are investing in AC in the UK then because yes, I think it's time, right? It's time because it's getting hotter, isn't it? So, but anyway, you've been here for 34 years. That is quite some time. What bought you here in the first place, Latifa?

SPEAKER_00 4:08

Actually, love.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

Oh, I'm going to hear this.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Yeah, so I met my husband in the UK who was actually sent on an English language course. Um, so yeah, we fell. I was actually working in my dad's shop and he used to come in on his uh lunch break. Um, so this is how we met actually. So I was seeing him every day and every day. And yeah, two years later, we and your husband is from He's Emirati.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

So he's Emirati. So oh a love story. I love that. That's all that's so nice.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

I moved here for love as well.

SPEAKER_02 4:38

Well, there you go, there you go. I didn't, I moved here because my mum and dad did. So there you go. But I was already in love. Love you. I bought him everyone with me. Everyone has a story. Exactly. So when you came out here 34 years ago, I mean you must have I we we meet a lot of people actually that have maybe grown up here, they've been here for years and years, maybe their parents have been here. It's changed a lot in the last 34 years, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 5:02

It has changed a major amount.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

I mean, you've just seen it sort of rise out of the sand, I suppose.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Definitely. My children always say to me, um, they they find it hard to believe that there was like no shopping malls, there was no McDonald's when I come here. Yeah. Um little grocery stores, and you know, we used to get our milk and that and no instantly.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

There are those fantastic pictures that you see, they sort of circulate around, and it's sort of I think it's it's like UAE in the 90s, and you see like the the the Hard Rock Hotel on its own in the Everett Scolf Club on its own. Every skull club, and there's nothing around it, or you see uh Shakeside Road, and there's just like one or two dotted sort of little tower blocks, and I mean how different. That's just you know. So, where did you live when you first moved it?

SPEAKER_00 5:48

So I lived in uh Shabir to El Wassel. So um my husband actually lived in uh Satwa, and we lived in Shabir to El Wassel, so yeah. Amazing.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

So, what I mean, obviously, as I was saying just a moment ago, we've all I think we've all gained a a sort of second wave, a sense of um feeling like we do belong here because of what we've gone through, which is one of the nice things I think to have come out of of a difficult time is a sense of belonging and a kind of feeling that you know the UAE is home. You we've all got our flags up, and we're all feeling sort of quite proud at the moment. How did you find when you came over from London to here, how did you find kind of dipping into the culture, like finding your lane, feel finding your feet with that? Was that really immediate? Did you just come and think this is home?

SPEAKER_00 6:36

You know what? I was very lucky that my husband's family embraced me, really. Like my mother-in-law, my father-in-law, they took me in like one of their own. Um, I actually was blessed to live with the family for nine years, so I really felt that culture. Obviously, it was a little bit different, it was a learning. Um, no one really spoke English. Um, my husband and brother-in-law were the only ones, so me and my mother-in-law had a lot of sign language between us, but that's really how I learnt the language. But I wouldn't want it any other way, really.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

So yeah, so it was just something it was a family thing, so you you were kind of like taken in by the family, and then it all just everything followed after.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Yeah, definitely. And it was just so peaceful, it was such a beautiful culture. Yes. Um, I always say there's sort of like a wall, but when you knock that wall down and get in, it is such another way of life. It's lovely, yeah, lovely, lovely, welcoming. Yeah, very welcoming. A lot of people don't really get to see that, you know, especially like if you're on holiday here, you really don't get to feel that local sense of harmony.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

I I totally agree because I mean that the in the media, I mean, we've seen this just just recently, there is a massive misconception about the UAE. I think there's you know, it the the things that are portrayed are sometimes very shiny, you know, it's the it's the hotels, the Lamborghinis, the the beach clubs, the bits and balls like this, but actually you don't have to go scratch very much until you find a lot of soul, I think, in this country. And but I I will say that I will admit to not knowing as much as I should about the culture of the country, you know, that I call home. Yeah. Which I suppose I mean, what about you, Jen?

SPEAKER_01 8:18

Do you feel like you could you know you know all about it, or is it so? I will honestly admit I I definitely don't know enough, and we were just discussing, you know, there's been a couple of events that you guys have actually attended, which has been wonderful to to kind of introduce new members to the centre, and I'm still to make the visit, but we've been discussing. I think we we would love to do a British Mum's event, you know, have a breakfast, maybe, where we can get people to come, and you know, for people that have been here years, but also for new people that are doing the move over this summer, because you know, we always have this kind of big transition in summer where families come and go, um, but there's a lot of new members that are joining. But I think people that have been here years, I think you don't always you just get caught up in your own kind of busyness of life, and you know, I do think it is really important to really understand, yeah, where we actually live and you know the values that the local cultures and that the country was built on, and that's something that I think is really important.

SPEAKER_02 9:17

You know, it's we're we're a young country, but it the the the values that hold it up and what it was built on are so important, you know, and they kind of that I think they run through like a sort of thread, if you will, everything that happens here. So tell us a little bit more about the centre and what can you do there? When you walk there, what will you find? Is it a drop-in thing? Are there tours? Tell us tell us a little bit about it.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

So the centre has a motto of open doors, open minds, and really it's just about building the different bridges between the different cultures and nationalities that we have around the world. Um, I don't feel there's anything like it actually, and you know, when you do visit it, it's just a real eye-opener of the hospitality that we don't see, you know, on our everyday life. So that we have lunches, brunches, walk-in tours um held at the centre, and there's you know, lunch is emirati food, um, which is another thing. You don't really find that in normal restaurants. Um, you know, that emirati food is quite different. What's an example of Emirati food?

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Um really because I think that when in schools we we hear about dates, don't we? Yeah. Talk about dates. Dates, yeah. That's a really, really big thing. But then, I mean, there must be more than dates.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

Yeah. So, yeah, when when people come to your house, you always start off with giving them a date and a coffee. So there's a story behind that. The date's really sweet, the coffee's quite sour, but they balance out each other. Um, so you eat the date, drink the coffee, balances out the flavours. But also, we have dishes like there's a furid, uh, which is a saluna made with uh bread. Um, that's a real you know popular dish. Um, there's all different kinds of sweets. Uh, legimat is a we say it's like a donut without the whole. Um that's the only way we can explain it. Yeah. So that's what you can you know find at the uh centre. And then we have the Jumera Mosque, which is part of the centre, and we do public tours uh two days uh twice a day for six days a week. The same thing, we offer refreshments, we offer the leggy mar, chubab, and uh uh coffee tea. We have a little museum upstairs now, once upon a time, um, that is in the Majelis. I love that. So people that come they register. We have desert friends, uh camels outside, the two mum and baby camels. Yeah, they're outside, so it's nice for the kids to take their pictures, meet and greet. We still get falcons.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

I'm so excited when I see a camel. I do. It doesn't matter how long I've been. Even me, even me. When um Sophie was doing some swimming at Hamdan, and the last thing I was expecting to see was a couple of camels just outside the Hamdan swimming pool. I'm like, that's amazing. I was like, camels are there.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

Yeah, because you know, when I first come here, they was just in the road. Yeah. Yes. You wouldn't even think twice about seeing a camel in the road, like just walking down. It's uh yeah, how things really have changed.

SPEAKER_02 12:17

You sort of like in the UK, it's quite normal to see a cow wandering across the road if they've I don't know, we lived in the country side. In country lanes, yeah, it's sort of like a little bit like that. My kids are completely used to camels because they've grown up here, so they don't blink an eyelid, but me and my husband still get very excited.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

Oh, well, we always have a mother and a baby, so the little baby one is always really popular with all the kids, they love it. So, but yeah, and then we have the actual mosque visit itself. Um, so people come, register, enjoy the museum. We have a little gift shop, um, they have refreshments, and then we go over to the mosque for an hour visit. Really just talking, we give people a chance to ask any questions they have.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

And you were saying you've been at the centre for 20 years, yes, and you said people over the years it's the same questions that people amazes me that it's still the same questions.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

What sort of questions? You know, the main question is actually the the dress, why the black and the white. Um, you know, people think we have to wear black and white, but that's actually nothing to do with religion. Okay. Uh more to do with the culture, the colour. You can actually wear what colour you like. Beige, yeah, beige and browns today. So, um, but we are asked to preserve our modesty, and you know, the dress that they wear beats the heat, it beats people don't realise. Um, the black abaya is so thin and it puts a barrier, you know, the sun will burn the material rather than your skin. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

So you don't actually feel so dysfunctional as well.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

Yeah. You may notice in June, July, and August you get a lot of black and white, and that's because of that reason. Where these actually get a bit thick, the coloured abayas. So people usually go back to black, as they say. So interesting.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

I always do feel like, gosh, it must be so hot wearing, you know, 100% material. Yeah. Um, sometimes I think they need to change the school uniform to be thinner material as well.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

Because I think some of the polyester is you know, oh, 100% thick for a lot of linens now in June, July, and August. I think it's one of the best.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Yes, absolutely natural. Definitely. Is there is there ever a part of the tour when you're do or when you're talking to people, when you meet people, is there something that you know is always gonna surprise people? Is it is there like a moment where they go, Oh, we didn't know that, we didn't realise that.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

You know what? It's very often actually near enough, the amount of people that leave always come up and say that. We learnt so much of it today. No, we really didn't. Yeah, you know, there's people that get emotional because how peaceful it is, and you know, obviously, I was gonna go on to the next uh question, which is most popular, is the negativity that we see with Islam. Yeah, um people so surprised at how peaceful it really is. So they do get actually get quite emotional. I can imagine. I can imagine, but yeah, amazing, absolutely amazing. The people on me, I feel so blessed to be where I am. I meet people from all over the world, um, and yeah, they're just lovely. It's uh so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:18

We had this is many, many podcasts back. Um, Michelle from Healing Hands, um she said she was talking about like energy and vibration. She said that one of the reasons that she believes that that the UAE has such a wonderful, peaceful energy and high vibration is because so many people pray. And she said that raises the feeling. Do you remember? I don't know whether you were on that podcast. I was on that one. I actually just messaged Michelle today as well to say hello. Oh, how funny synchronicities. Um I I remember thinking it's true because you think every every day there are so many people doing such a peace peaceful act, yeah, absolutely, and it will change the energy, it will make it nice for people to be around. And something I've always loved is raising children here, is that they are exposed to you know that that that faith, that belief, you know, and it's it's nice, I think it's peaceful. I think it creates a nice atmosphere, a nice community. Um, do you do you think talking of the word community? Because I think that's quite a nice sort of buzzword, in terms of being an emirati here, obviously there's a massive sense of welcome when you come and live in this country if you're not Emirati. Is there a big Emirati community, or is it very much kind of that Emiratis are now part of a wider thing, or is it is it quite a tight-knit community, would you say?

SPEAKER_00 16:42

Yeah, you know, like the grandmothers, if you give them a name, yeah, they pull out a hundred years' history of that family. Yeah, everybody knows everybody. You know, when my mother-in-law passed away um 11 years ago, and I couldn't believe that within a couple of hours people were coming from Russellheimer, Fajera to a funeral. Yeah, my friend.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

Three days, it was is there is there quite a long time of like the grieving process? Because a friend of mine was saying exactly that she's married an emirati and you know their father-in-law passed away, and she just said, you know, for a very long time there's so many people come to the house, but it's so wonderful that everyone comes together and you know actually can express grief, I think, because sometimes I feel like I don't know, people are scared to kind of terrible at it. We know you just kind of hide things away, and actually it's quite normal you can be a lot more open and just coming together and just being there for each other.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

Well, it's only three days. Okay. So from the minute you're buried, that's when people start coming, but they come from all over, honestly. And you know what? Being English, I never realized when someone dies, you're very sad, you go in your room, shut the door, don't want to speak to anyone, and I thought, oh my god, or you know, you've got to put up with all, but now I understand the first three days are the hardest when you lose someone and when you've not seen someone for so long, and they're your friends and relatives, and it's so, and then people usually bring food and they help. So you know what? It really gets you over that hardest first three days. Of course. So I had a real big outlook change of outlook on that uh reason. Just coming together a little bit more. Yeah, definitely, definitely. My daughter's 30, then I have a 27 and a 25.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

I know I was just gonna say that my 57 pounds.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

Do they still leave it? Yeah, they're all here, all working. Amazing. Been to local schools, everyone said to me, put them in private schools. I said, Nope. I want my kids to go to local schools, so they learn the language and they learn the.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Do they ever come over to the centre?

SPEAKER_00 18:57

Yeah, they actually they used to volunteer when they were when they was younger. That's so lovely. But now they've all got their own jobs and all that, they're always busy.

SPEAKER_02 19:06

Is it is it a job that you feel really proud to have because you feel like you can spread a message and share a culture that you feel is well, it's it's 100% change my life, really.

SPEAKER_00 19:17

And I said, even if I don't think I work there, I just go and sit there just to listen. I think it's uh yeah, I couldn't see myself anywhere else. And are you open the whole way through the summer as well?

SPEAKER_02 19:28

Yeah, is it indoors?

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Yeah, the mosque, yeah, and the we have a big building, the Majulis, which is opposite the mosque, so that's where all the museum and all that is. You know, my director, Mr. Abdullah al-Sakal, he's the one who started it all. And he started it with like I think he actually went to pray in the mosque, and there was two people trying to look inside, and he said, Oh come on, I'll take you in. Oh wow! Um, and then I think they started asking him, Oh, you know, why do you wear that white candor? And that's where it all started for him. Yeah, then they had the mosque visit one day a week, um, I think on a Thursday, and then it went to two days, Thursdays and Sundays, then we added Tuesdays. We never had the Majulis, we used to register outside the mosque, so even that in itself has changed dramatically over the you know last 20 years. Hugely.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

And how do people actually come to hear about the centre generally?

SPEAKER_00 20:19

You know, word by mouth, yeah, and obviously on the website is it more tourists coming and visiting, or is it more residents? I'd say tourists.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

Okay, that's really interesting. We will be changing that. I was gonna say we should make that part of the the the message of this because actually uh my mind immediately goes, Well, that's something to do, that's something to do with the kids.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

Yeah, and it's such an eye-opener. It's such a you know, you've got anything in your heart you can ask. Um, and it really is like to what we eat, to why we dress, to why you're wearing this, it's such an eye-opener, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

I think everyone that passes through should come, you know, come and do it because it really's a really great discussion, and I think that people are always looking for for things to do anyway. Um, I actually homeschool my kids, and I'm in my mind I'm going, that's a great that's a great thing to do with them. Yeah, because we can go any day and they can do a project on it, or you know, anything like that. But um, do schools come?

SPEAKER_00 21:22

Yeah, we have a lot of schools. I bet the kids love it, yeah. They they really do love it, and even the museum, the museum's all to do with my again, my director's personal items that he has in his house from years and years ago. Like we have a section of 70s toys, and there's you know, Sheikh Rushid's camera and Sheikh Zaid's pen and things like this. So there's you know, it's really interesting for the kids. It's uh very interesting. Yeah, amazing. Just seeing the eagle and holding the eagle, that's uh in itself, yeah. We do a lot of those actually. Yeah, the centre does do a lot of those.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

I can imagine that's a popular one. That's a popular day, isn't it? That's always such a fun day in the schools, isn't it, National Day? Always pull out all the stops.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

Yeah, but I think you know the schools are great at celebrating all the UAE holidays, but then the International Day as well, where you've got all the cultures that are, you know, that's fun, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 22:21

That's become really fun. My little uh brother-in-law's kids get ready, then one's wearing Chinese and one's wearing another dress. It's really lovely.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Yeah, that's always a lovely day as well. And when people bring all the food from different places as well, that's always quite a good one. Yeah, that's the thing I've got.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

Tim Towns from Australia, and my my mission is to have some more Emirati food because yeah, we just it never occurred to me.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

I I don't know why it you know, because if you think about it, it makes complete sense. But I'd always known about the dates because it's obviously a really, really big thing. Um, but uh it never occurred to me that it's obviously traditional emerati food.

SPEAKER_00 22:56

And dates are like so healthy, they it's one of the fastest uh fruit in the world that brings your sugar levels back to the city. So this is why a lot of people break their fast with dates.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

Yeah, yes, my friend she always breaks her fast with dates and nuts. That's how she does it every single year, and she's like that's the thing she looks forward to. Or a peanut butter inside a date, that's delicious.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

Has anybody ever tried that? Or love it, no, or peanut butter inside a date. No, I had a macadamia nut with it, which was pretty good. Um lovely.

SPEAKER_02 23:25

Oh, that's fantastic. So, I mean, we'll we'll obviously be sharing a load of this stuff on on British Mum's but I think I I think more than anything, it's it's not just for tourists, guys. Get yourselves down there, right? Get your families down there. Let's like we live here, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:41

And also when we have guests, like for me, I do a lot of the tourist things when I get guests, so it's actually nice to bring a lot of.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Yeah, if you've got grandma and grandad or something like that, a lot of my guests are people that have been here.

SPEAKER_00 23:53

I've had people that say, Well, we come here 11 years ago, I'm bringing my cousins now, and like really so many of them come back. So I think it's such a nice idea.

SPEAKER_02 24:00

I'm definitely gonna bring you bring bring my girlfriend. Fabulous, and that'll be so nice. We'll be waiting. Yeah, you'll be waiting, I can't wait. I'll say another interview. So, what's your plans this summer? Tell me, what are you doing over the summer break?

SPEAKER_00 24:12

Well, I'm gonna I'm actually on holiday now, so I'm going back to work next week. Lovely, um yeah, and just staying here for the summer. Staying here for the summer in the AC where it's nice and cool.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

That's exactly what I'm gonna be doing as well. Do you know what? It's been honestly such a pleasure to have you on the podcast today. Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

It's my honour to be here, really.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

Taking time out of your holiday to come.

SPEAKER_02 24:31

Oh no, yes, not at all. Not at all. We really appreciate that. Thank you so much. We're gonna post everything down below in the biogue. So if people want to go and check out the website, they can. Obviously, it's open in the summer, so if you guys are trying to beat the heat, make sure that you get over there and learn some stuff as well because that's a great thing to do with family. Um, I think also, like I said at the very beginning, it's a really nice time for us to just show that extra appreciation, and sometimes knowledge is power. So the more we know, um the more that we can sort of be part of the ecosystem here and part of but not but more than that, part of the community. So, you know, it's really nice for us to be able to do that. So, thank you so much for joining us today.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

You're welcome anytime. Thank you so much, really.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

And Jen, as usual, it's lovely to have you as well. Thank you, thank you. Thanks for listening, guys. Make sure that you do subscribe, like the post, share it, interact with it. It really helps us know what you guys are enjoying and let us know what you want to hear. Um, I hope that you guys survive the heat as well. Maybe you should be wearing white and black, like the advice we were given today. And you guys are a part of this now. My goodness, that was such a lovely chat. Latifa is just so warm and welcoming. I can imagine that having a tour around the cultural centre with her is just fantastic. And what she doesn't know about the UAE isn't worth knowing. She's got grown-up children, she's done it all, she's been there, she's a super mama and absolutely a fantastic uh uh guest on the podcast. Now, uh the summer is coming. We hope that you guys are coping with the heat. Maybe there were some tips in that podcast that you guys can uh use moving forward as it's very sticky. Now, uh we want to draw your attention to the Father's Day gift guide and also the teacher's day gift guide. We're gonna pop that in the bio below. It's coming up to the end of the year. Listen, I've been a teacher and we absolutely do value the gifts that you get us. We really, really do. But what we want to do this Father's Day, and when we say thank you to our teachers, is we want to support these small businesses that have soldiered through a really difficult time. So check out the guides below, support small business, tell us what you like, check out the Freebie Fridays on the page. There is so much on offer that is absolutely fantastic. We love having you here, guys. Thank you so much for listening. Make sure you like and you subscribe and tell us what you want to hear. You guys are listening now.