39 - Teaching kids how to defend their faith, Catholic Apologetics: a life long quest.

Ever wondered how to hurricane prep like a pro? In this episode, we tackle everything from Hurricane Milton lockdown life hacks to the heroic saga of surfing grandpas. Plus, get ready for some serious Catholic apologetics—because sometimes, truth bombs drop harder than a category 4 storm. Tune in and laugh with us through the chaos!

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Episode 39
Published Oct. 13, 2024

Correction on bible verse mentioned:

John 20:22-23 is the verse where Jesus breathes on the disciples and gives them authority to bind or loose sins. (I think I mentioned James Ch 3.)

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    Welcome back to Home is Where the Truth is. You found us.   This is the Hurricane Milton edition. Yes. Home is Where the Truth is and as we speak we are probably about I don't know Seven eight hours away from landfall on the west coast of Florida  We are just north of where the eye wall should be crossing the state.

So we kind of got lucky there cause it was looking like it was going to head right for us. And yeah, so we're hunkering down. So we're figured why not? We got electricity. Let's get her done.  If this, if you are listening to this on Sunday, when it usually posts, which would be Sunday, October, uh,  Sunday october 6 if it posts that means one of two things I got it edited tonight and posted it Or we didn't lose power because we do think we will lose power. We're ready for that. Yeah. Expected to get some kind of tropical force winds, in the middle of the night and we have been praying that this thing weakens and anything for the people in its direct path.

So it's a scary thing, but we're prepared. And yeah, you got to trust in the Lord and hunkering down is  actually,, I'm one of those people  back in COVID when I was like,  I like this lockdown thing because hunkering down, everything's canceled. So you and your family are forced to be in the house.

With only your family with nothing to do  and I like that I just love it because you don't get enough of those moments between work school practice and all the other things that life has that you just Have unfocused family time that only happens on the holidays And hurricanes hunkering down. And the other thing too is, you're  on   a deadline when the power goes out, because at some point  it will.

with that being said, it's like, okay, you guys got laundry? Go do it now. Get it done. You want to take a shower? Do it now. Cause if we lose power, we lose water. We lose everything. So we're getting the house clean, getting it straightened dishes. No dishes are going to be left in the sink. That's what happened the last time we had a hurricane.

We had dishes piled up high,  overflowing in the sink. And I'm  not doing that again. So dishes are washed, kitchen's clean, clothes are washed, dried, put away. I even, we even, I had some of the older kids help me organize pantry shelves and cup shelves.  This is how long we've been hunkering down that , when this power goes out, we're going to be able to see.

Everything in a row. Perfectly lined up. Okay, exactly. Not just piles of crap everywhere. We're going to see silhouettes of rows of organized stuff. So,  and it's interesting because you can see, Maeve just had me write a little  paper because we had the kids do some work we had a writing powwow at the table after dinner.

It was so awesome. All six of us were just, Their writing it was so wonderful. Yes. So my assignment was to write about the hurricane and preparing for it And I got to thinking  times like this. There are a handful of different categories of people  Pun intended pun intended because we're we're staring down a cat for her a category for hurricane right now, right?

and how how they react to Situations like a hurricane and you've got us where , I plan ahead, , this today is Wednesday night. I was getting gas in the cars and in gas cans on Saturday.  I had everything  set up generator was working everything by Saturday afternoon. Oh yeah.

They've been telling us about this hurricane, which was at the Yucatan Peninsula since what? We've been waiting for this thing for about five days now. It seems like forever.  So I want to get ahead of the game because if you wait till last minute, you're scrambling, you're waiting in line or you're out of luck.

So I'm the kind of guy who I'm ahead of the game, right? I'm done before the weekend's over. Then you got those people day of posting on social media.  Anybody know what store's open right now?  I need some water. Which it's like 4pm and everything closed at noon. Even Walmart closed at noon. I know. 

Yeah, and these people are posting, Uh, any grocery stores open? Do you know where I can get some gas? Um, guys, that should have been done like two days ago. Yeah.  And then you got the guys that are overbearing where, they're duct tapering their doors. They're , not in a flood zone, but they're still sandbagging their house.

And you see, you drive by a lot of houses. They're already boarded up. Oh yeah. Boarded up. I mean, even if it was  a tropical storm, they're boarding their windows. Yeah. So they put plywood over their windows. You got those. So they don't blow out. You got the people who just don't care. You're driving by, there's a trampoline in the front yard and all the kids toys everywhere.

Plastic toys those are going to be flying missiles. Exactly.  They're just whatever. And then you got the other people who are just freaking out, just got up and went to Alabama, not even thinking twice and to evacuate, to evacuate.  So there's, yeah. And then you got the trad wives who are like, Oh my gosh, extra shopping day.

Let's do it. Oh yeah. The malls are going to be bare and we can have the whole place for ourselves. Because listen,  leading up to it, nothing is happening. It's just a cloudy day.  And a sprinkle here and there. So you have 24 hours of like, that could be shopping time. So you got, you could, you could do that.

Okay. So, yeah, if you don't care  at all about anybody or anything, it's like, Oh,  You're not at home taking care of your family, preparing for the storm. Thank you for being at the store to check me out right now. Because Well, what I was gonna say is you probably have a good trad hubs doing it. So, that's why you can do that.

So, we were talking a little bit about that last episode. About trad wives and trad hubs. And that is one of the good things about being a trad wife. Right there. Trad hubs is on top of that kind of stuff. Okay. Okay. Haha. God bless everyone in the way of the hurricane. I hope,  that there's not so much destruction as last week.

What was it a couple of weeks ago?  And all right. So I have to make a confession because we listened to our podcasts. Our kids like to listen to it too.  And so I have to have a confession because my son called me out on one of the tips I was telling you guys about.  It was, was it about two episodes ago?

We're talking about when you're talking with your kids, you put your phone down and say, I have time. Go ahead. I've turned my phone off. My son he's like, wait, pause it, pause it.  You don't do that  He's like you're just talking on you're talking you're typing on your phone and you're like, uh huh.

Uh huh. Go ahead  So we are all a work in progress. Okay, and Hypocrite. Well, I think he was more talking about About when I'm in the middle of responding to a text and he just comes out blurting some unimportant out and I'm like, hold on. I'm in the middle of a tech. So he's never been like, mommy, I have to share.

This  thing has happened to me and I'm just texting away. So,  uh, but speaking of a work in progress. We all are a work in progress , as are our kids. And  my daughter did something that I am so proud of because we are pruning. There's such a great analogy to children and it's. Think of them as fruit trees and some fruit trees, like a citrus tree takes 10 years before it's going to produce fruit. 

And that's what you're doing is you're just constantly pruning your kids, their bad behavior, their character until finally. You do start seeing fruit in the teen years. I mean it it literally takes till the teen years so far for us Yeah, i'm, not sure why it's taking so long  Some we're not even sure that's gonna be any time.

I know there's some we're like, okay, this is gonna be a while but now my daughter did something that I admit, , I wasn't able to do this until I was about 28. here's what happened. She was in a group of friends and kids her age, and this was an ecumenical group.  Do you know what that means, Matt, ecumenical? 

Mixed bag of different,  religions. Good. Very good. Yeah. And that's a very Catholic word. , I don't know how many Protestants use the word, but I have heard Proddy's use it before. And,  in fact, What is it? What did you call them? Proddy's. Oh. I  just made that up. Okay. Protestants. Our proddy friends. It, we were at Christian surfers , my dad and I were members of Christian surfers, New Smyrna beach.

And someone was like, this is an ecumenical. Group because George, my dad, now this is the time to brag on my dad,  our number one fan, our number one downloader.  Okay. 38 downloads  everyone. Oh wow.  And we do bust his chops a lot on here and in real life. Yeah. I think yeah, she looks forward to it because that gives a maritime  And it is pretty easy.

Yeah, okay, but no my dad He is an og in the spiritual realm like you know, he was born back when moses was here Okay  Okay. He is going to be 80 this year, but he is not your typical 80 year old. Right.  When I tell people he's 80, they can't believe it. He is fit. He goes surfing two or three times a week.

He, it doesn't look like an 80 year old, but when I say he is an OG in the spiritual realm, do you? Yeah. Okay, you know that shirt? There's Guy Fieri from Diners, Drive ins and Dives. He wears this shirt and it says spiritual gangster. Have you seen him wear that shirt? No. Okay.  Okay. Well, let's let's get some other related relatable stuff in here.

Do you guys, do our listeners watch diners, drive ins and dives? I would hope so. Cause that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. So it's kind of like on his down trend. I mean, I think it peaked probably a couple of years ago. Okay. Yeah. And we haven't watched it in a little while, but guy Fieri, he's the guy on there, food network, food network.

And. Have you guys ever gone to one of the restaurants , he's been to on diners, drive ins and dives we have, we have, what did we go to? It was a, Vietnamese or something, , restaurant in Orlando. It was in Orlando. Yep. And it had some crazy stuff on the menu. Yeah. Like you didn't even know what it was.

Right. Tripe is the Like cow tongue or something. So we, yeah, we did go to where Guy Fieri. So that's just a little adventure thing. But he, Guy Fieri has a shirt that says spiritual gangsta on it. And I like that, but it has a little bit of a negative connotation, but I would more like in my dad to a spiritual giant or a spiritual warrior.

Okay. Um, and  let me tell you a little bit more about him.  So he learned to surf when he was 58 years old.  So he's always youthful, always charging waves. And let me, also say this. Not only is he a spiritual giant.  But he lives in a house with another spiritual giant and that is Kathy, his wife and our kids Nana and my kids tutor.

So when I was talked about on here, Oh, the tutor I sat in on, I'm talking about my dad's wife, Kathy. They are literally salt of the earth.  Spiritual giants. So we're so blessed to have them. Right.  my dad learned to surf at 58. I taught him how to surf myself. I'm like, Oh, my dad would love this.  So at first it was slow going.

He was learning how to surf and it was, it's hard, just like any sport. It takes years to get good at surfing.  His friend, Bill says, Hey, George, You should compete because that just makes you a better surfer. So my dad's to get better. He starts competing in ESA, Eastern Surfing Association, an amateur surf contest,  surf association, and he starts winning contests. 

Now, this is the great grandmasters  at the time. Yeah. And yeah, he's got a ton of trophies. Well, and I thought Matt was going to bust on his chops. I mean, I was getting ready to, honestly. I bit my tongue. But because he is entering these contests and he's getting like second place or third place. But there's He's late. 

Two or three people in each contest. Yeah, there's only three or two grandmasters legends in his  division So he's always gonna place but I don't want to take that away from him because even then Age group is hard, you know, like if you're competing in your age group  It is still good competition. Yeah.

 So he made it to the NSA Easterns, which is the whole entire Eastern seaboard of America. If you're a surfer in New York, Virginia, Cape Hatteras, Florida, those are the big championships. And then you go to nationals after that. So he was going to compete in that.

Yeah. Wasn't that in Cape Hatteras? Yeah. Cape Hatteras. Now  another spiritual giant that he used to live with, she's passed away. His mother in law, Alice, now she, at the time of this contest, she lived with them and she is blind. It's Kathy's mom and she's been blind for a couple of decades. So she just sat on the couch watching EWTN.

Oh, all day, all day listening to the rosary and EWTN for those of you who don't is eternal word  on fire network.  Good old Mother Angelica, if you're a true Catholic OG, you'll know who that is. She started EWTN.  And so Alice sits there and prays all day and listens to the rosary.

She goes, George, I'm going to pray for 20 foot waves for you for this contest.  So if that was going to happen, I'd be freaking out. I'm like, no, bring that down to like five. Exactly. Well, so he gets to Cape Hatteras, which is very consistent. That's off of North Carolina and it's very consistent surf and it can get good there, but just like any East coast spot, or I guess any surf spot, it does have it's season.

Okay. Like there's good times and bad times. Well, there just happens to be a storm out in the Atlantic. Churning up massive waves. So when he gets to that contest, now he's only been surfing  maybe five years at this point. Okay. It's literally 20 foot faces on these waves and it's white water everywhere because in Florida, if we get waves that big, it's due to a storm or a hurricane, we're not like Cali that just all these huge waves are rolling in all day.

It's not that like that. So. on this contest they had already postponed the contest because two surfers had broken boards Oh, well, that's how big these waves were but  they finally say, okay, we're gonna go  it's surfable. So in my dad's heat when it was his turn now He's surfing against the other people that made it to Easterns  These men have been surfing all their lives. They probably grew up in the 60s. Like, well, they were born in like the forties and fifties. So they grew up surfing. So these men have been surfing all their lives, but my dad was so fit and so strong.

He was the only one that could paddle out past the brakes far enough. Okay. Everyone else came in and he is like 15 minutes away. to 20 minutes long. That's all you get.   So he gets out, he's out there surfing. And now when I said it was a 20 foot face, That's a huge wave for Florida and we don't use Hawaii's measuring system. If Hawaii said a 10 or 20 foot wave, they measure from the back of the wave. A 20 foot wave in Florida is about, it's just ginormous.

and it's choppy whitewater everywhere.

, And this is a big contest. So there's announcer and the announcer, he's calling it looks like any,  , football announcer would . He's like, Oh, George, he's going for it. He's paddling for it. And my dad takes off on The hugest wave of the day and the beach just goes crazy.

Everyone on the beach is cheering like, Oh, .  And he wins. He, and of course he's the only one that could even paddle out. So he wins east. He's the east coast, grand legends, shortboard champion. Shortboard or longboard? Yeah, it's, I looked at the trophy today at his house. Shortboard. I don't think he owns a shortboard.

It wasn't. Like one of those little ripper boards, but it's only a long board if it's two feet taller than you.  So it classified as a short board. So, okay. So he's obviously amazing. Before he was married to my mom, he worked for the CIA. This is probably, this is declassified what I'm going to tell you, but he snuck a family.

It was an ambassador. He snuck, he had to get this. Ambassador out of the country safely. So they go in and sedate them and move, take them out in moving boxes. Like they're a moving company. He did legit espionage. Okay. He worked for ATF and he, in fact, he met my mom, Karen, the pioneer, Karen, In DC, she was a secretary.

 But the most important part, point, and, Oh, I guess I should tell my mom passed away, , 25 years ago. And so that's why he's married now to Kathy, who's a blessing in our lives.  But the main point I want to make about my dad is that he has always had a love for Jesus, a rock solid, unshakable, trusting faith in God, a praying man, a man of integrity.

 He tries to please the Lord in all he does.

he's been a Catholic his whole life. So I got off on a tangent on my dad because of  awesome he is and the amazing influence he's been in my life and my kids life. But I want to bring that back around to,  Our daughter, because, , like I said, she did something, even though I was raised by someone that amazing like I said, my dad has always been a Catholic and known his faith,  what she did.

I wasn't able to do until I was 28, nearly 30 years old. And  my daughter, what she did at 14 years old is she stood up for the Catholic faith.  And I want to tell you guys, they're standing up for your faith. And then there's the flip side of that.

Dr. Ray Gorindy.  He has a talk show. The doctor is in on EWTN radio, which we just talked about a couple minutes ago. He's a father of 10 adopted children. Well, he said this, and I listened to a talk he gave about probably two decades ago at this point.  He said, I never met a Catholic who could defend their faith. 

Until he did meet a Catholic who could defend their faith.  And now he is a Catholic where he said,  I would go around, tell them Catholics, what's the Pope? Why do you guys have the Pope? No Catholic could ever defend their faith until that one Catholic who did. 

He said, now I have a three part series on the Pope in the Bible. So he was a Protestant. That went around arguing with Catholics, how they're going to hell, but then that one Catholic that actually knew their faith  and he was open to hearing the truth and actually thinking about it for himself. Now he's, one of the great Catholic speakers on EWTN.

Okay. So my daughter was in a, in a group of, , ecumenical group going back to that.  And  they start saying. Now they don't, these people don't know each other that well.  They are all of the same worldview. I would say they're all Christians  and these group of kids there with start saying, Oh my gosh, Catholics believe some weird stuff. 

And my daughter is like, Oh, well. Well, like what, what do you mean weird? So she's undercover at this point.  oh, they,  believe that  they think the bread is actually the real body of Christ. And the other girl goes, Oh, that's so disgusting. Yeah, that's so disgusting. And then the other girl's like, yeah, they believe a lot of heresies.

And my daughter's like, well, like what heresies , do they believe? What do you mean? And she said, well, they believe  that your priests can forgive your sins and, and they believe that you can like pay your way into heaven and your priests can forgive your sins.  Um,  then  I want to pause here.

Oh gosh. Matt, what would be your response if someone came up to you and they're like, you Catholics, you believe your priests can forgive your sins. What would your response be to that? My response would be.  It's, um, it's not the priest who forgives your sins. He absolves your sins through the grace of God.

Okay. Right. And, that's the whole point. And it's important, the sacrament of reconciliation.  But everything goes through God. You know, that's, that's the whole thing. Okay. Very good. Good job, Matt. And we had recently talked about this. We're always teaching our kids apologetics through, and apologetics is a big word for why we believe what we believe, because back in my dad's day, they  didn't have to question like, why am I believing this?

It was just, you believed it cause your parents taught you and there wasn't all this other worldview,  static drowning it out. So now you have to know why I believe it, because otherwise someone's going to come along and tell you how stupid that is. So, my daughter said, she's like, well, no, the, God is working through the priest.

To forgive yours or yeah through the priest to forgive sins  and the girl said  well, he doesn't have the authority for that  My daughter said,  it's God that's doing it. And,    she was spot on with her response, but then at this point they pick up on, Oh, hold on. Are you Catholic? 

. So my daughter told me, and like I said, I have been, when I was in college, I had people saying,  Oh,  you guys baptize baby. Now these are my peers. These are my peers in college. Oh, you baptize babies. Oh, you recite, wrote prayers. Oh, you,  Mary and I'll admit in college, I didn't know how to respond to those.

I had to go ask my dad, like, what, what is this? Why do we do this? So the fact that at 14 she could do it was so I'm so proud of her, but here's the other thing.

, I remember I was a grownup and we were out and we were married. So we were, I was  at least 28 and we were  out to dinner and these were people, there was a group of friends, a few of us were Catholic, like at least two or three couples, but one couple had left the church and we were kind of, they were kind of arguing and I would, didn't really know these people as well as you did, but they were sitting their bad mouth in the church and saying what you would, , people who. 

Bad mouthed priests, you know that what they're gonna call them sure and saying oh,  This is why we're leaving and all this bad mouthing of the church was going on and I didn't speak up I didn't say anything and it was such I was so mad at myself that I didn't have the courage or the wisdom To say something to them, you know

so So  when my daughter told me that, I was , so proud of her. I took her to get a smoothie.  This is, this is a cause for celebration. And it did take me a few minutes because we went and had smoothie and coffee and, It wasn't until I got back in the car and I thought of the response to the authority situation is there are a lot of scriptures that actually say that the priest that Jesus gives the priest authority.

He gave Peter authority on the rock when he said, Peter, I name you Peter on this rock, I build my church. And so, Whatever sins you bind are bound in heaven. Whatever sins you loose are loosed in heaven. And then we were telling my dad about this story and he just belts out like three more scripture.

He's like, well, what about James chapter three, where Jesus had already risen from the dead. He came back and he breathed on his disciples and said,  I give you my Holy spirit. And he said it again, he said, whoever sins. You bind on earth are bound in heaven.

Whoever sends you forgive. So now the question is, are we going to  jot these little scriptures down and give a note and say, Hey, if you want to discuss these more, , to her little friend, , but sometimes people are not ready to hear the truth, but if they want to seek out the truth, they can.

And this reminds me of a quote by the venerable Fulton Sheen. He says,  Truth is like a lion.  You don't have to defend it. You just have to let it out of the cage.  Yeah, and then he also said this, which is also very fitting for this. He said there are not 100 people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church  But there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be  Yeah.

So if you really want to boil it down and study with an open mind, like Ray Grorendi, like Dr. Ray Grorendi did, like Scott Hahn, who we've talked about on here,  you can't argue it. In fact, that's why , someone at the Christian surfers meeting, , way back many years ago in New Smyrna beach, they felt the need to say.

Hey, this is an ecumenical group because my dad was the Bible study leader. So he wrote the teachings each week and compiled the study. And so he would have, here's like the main idea. And he would give all these verses to back it. And he would use a concordance.  Do you know what a concordance is, Matt? 

Man, you were on a roll because you had the great response. You knew ecumenical, but concordance, and I'm so glad I have you as that litmus test because I want people also who are listening to know all this great, all these great tools and all this. Isn't that a, is it a Catholic Bible? A concordance is a book that tells you every word that's in the Bible, how many times that word is used, where it's used. 

So you can go look up  faithfulness, right? And you find every verse that has that word. Someone was using our Bibles with concordance in the back.  Concordance is a big, thick book. It's its own book. It's bigger than a Bible actually. So, ,  someone came up with that thing. Oh, well, they're the word the the phrase do not fear is in the Bible 365 times one for every day of the year they say well, they had to use a concordance to figure that out Okay, so my dad would have all this these tools that he's using and he would even okay now, do you know this word? 

exegesis exegesis exegesis  Doesn't sound like you know it either. 

You know what, when I was writing this, that word did pop into my mind. So I knew it. I just don't know how to pronounce it, but that's when you study the language it was written in. So this word in Hebrew actually is translated blah, blah, blah. So my dad's using all those tools on this Bible study.  So it's very, it sounds very Catholic.

Everything he's teaching is legit Catholic teaching because Catholic teaching is from the Bible and you're never going to find a Catholic teaching that is not backed up by scripture. So someone felt the need to be like, Oh, well, this sounds very Catholic. And in fact, one lady was even like, he read a scripture and she's like,  See, I don't believe that.

And he literally read the book, the scripture out of the Bible. And so later on, and she said that in front of everybody and we're just, everyone's just kind of like, I don't remember what we did. We were quiet where we were charitable. But, my dad later was like, I should have just ripped that page out and wadded it up and said, okay, we won't let, we won't use that anymore then.

Right. It's like that's what people do. And sure. And just pick and choose. So  that does illustrate that sometimes people don't want the truth. And then  so their age mates might not be ready for the truth, but the beautiful thing is. As a Catholic, we get to do this all lifelong. You're always going to have Protestants, atheists, whomever saying, well, why do you believe this?

Why do Catholics believe this? So my dad's 80 and he's still doing it.    That's the awesome thing is like, even if you don't do it now as a parent, you have decades and decades to learn your faith because you will have your whole entire life to defend it. And I do have to say.

 These kids are clearly having some great dialogue, After she told me the story. She's like, you know, but  and I said sometimes everyone's not ready to hear the truth And she's like, yeah, because one kid was trying to argue that e gaming is an actual sport  Like playing.

Yeah, nintendo. Yeah is an actual sport, of course So, you got to say well these kids are clearly having some great dialogue some really important debates It's the real presence of the Eucharist,  , Jesus's grace through the sacrament of reconciliation. And can you really call yourself an athlete if your only game is tennis on Wii Sports? 

Probably not. Yeah. I mean, Serena and Venus didn't get good using a VR headset, people.  ,  And one more thing on this,  that time as an adult where I was not able to stand up for my faith. Actually made me hungry.  So if you haven't been able to answer back, then get hungry.  . I had to go and find out about baptizing babies.

, in the Bible, there's, there's a couple of times where whole households were baptized. Whole households would have been slaves, would have been children, would have been babies.,   one of my good friends. Who challenged me in?  College and he actually he was our wedding photographer Brett Hoskins I'll never forget him because he  was a hardcore Christian loved the Lord and he knew I was Catholic And so he asked me about wrote prayers of the rosary  ROTE, you know and I had to go find out , well, wait, there's people are Protestants are telling me you shouldn't be saying wrote prayers But no, the rosary is not wrote prayers.

It's Meditating  on Parts of Jesus's life. It's  so beautiful. So 

we don't have time this week. I'm just checking the time.  I want to tell you guys about some things we do with our kids, some, some fun stuff we do, , like Catholic trivia night. We had a great time with that. We'll tell you about that next week cause we're running out of time. But  to conclude,

learning your faith and teaching your kids your faith. Is a lifelong pursuit.  There's always going to be people  there's always going to be Protestants that ask you to explain Catholicism  And you know what? It works both ways. Because I remember we were doing an ecumenical, , little mission thing with a bunch of other churches and they were, , asking us stuff about why do Catholics believe this?

And I went to the leader and I said, you know, your people keep asking us about why do Catholics do this? What? Let's just like all get along. And he's like, Oh, no. The Catholics are asking us too. So the Catholics are also asking Protestants, well, why do you, why do you guys believe this? Are you guys are wrong and believe in it?

So it goes both ways. It does.  But be that one person in 100. That can explain the deepness and richness that is Still preserved as when the early church fathers were being martyred for spreading it  help your teens Be that one in 100 as well. There you go. Amen. Good luck Thanks for listening 📍   And we'll see you on the other side of the storm.   We  

 

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