Talkin' Tennessee with Yvonnca
Talkin' Tennessee with Yvonnca
Transforming Trauma into Purpose feat Carla Long Burroughs, Owner of Genesis Real Estate Title
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Speaker 3:Welcome back to Talking Tennessee with Yvonca. I am your host and I am here, I have to say it, my sissy, my sissy's, in the building, carla Burrows, from Genesis Title, is here to inspire you. From Genesis Title is here to inspire you. Welcome, sissy. Thank you, sister. I want y'all to know you could not have a closer relationship with a family member than this relationship right here. Me and her have grown up together. We have had children together, got married, built businesses. So this one, I will tell you, means more to me than any podcast that I've ever done, and you'll understand why. Carla, welcome to Talkin' Tennessee.
Speaker 4:Thank you, I love you.
Speaker 3:I love you. I love you. So who is Carla Burrows?
Speaker 4:That's steep. Okay, that's steep. So first of all, I guess I would say that I'm a woman who fears the Lord and fears the Lord as in. I respect him, I run after him and I'm a wife. High school sweethearts and 27 years now yes, I'm a mother of four, with a 13-year gap in between. What was our youngest?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 4:So Cameron is 24. Bebe is 17 now and the boys twin boys are four.
Speaker 3:Let me just say this the day that she called me to tell me she was pregnant with my nephews, I guess she forgot who her sister is, and so I guess she thought she was going to call and I was going to say some profane thing just to get her through, and all I did was laugh. No sympathy, none, I laughed. But I truly believe that God makes no mistakes. He makes no mistakes and he knew what you needed. You know, honestly, carla, she has the career, she has the businesses, she has the family, she has the husband, she has the children, but I think your boys really brought a different side of you out. They did. You know, girls bring a side out of us as well, but I think your boys came at the time that you really needed to challenge yourself in other ways, and I think that God used the boys to bring out more of Carla to the world.
Speaker 3:Yes, do you agree with that? I do, and so, viewers, I want you to know, you have to be sure to follow her on her social media pages and Genesis, and we'll get all into that, but you just have to follow her journey and just see that God is always in the midst of things, follow her journey and just see that God is always in the midst of things and things. When you think your life is set and you think, okay, you know I'm going to be the wife, the mother and the businesswoman and you know it's all set and I'm going near 40. God will always shake it up, always, amen. How was you when you got pregnant?
Speaker 4:With Cameron. Yeah, I had her one month after I turned 20. And then I got pregnant with the boys when I was 39.
Speaker 3:39, y'all 39 years old and Carla wasn't looking to have more kids, but if you see her with her boys, you would have thought that it was planned.
Speaker 3:You know I dropped off my nephew. For the ones that don't know, carla blessed me with my son, jaden Landis, who you hear me talk about so much. You know Carla really wanted her nephew to be raised by a family that is going to love him and instill great values in him and just be there for him, and so I thank God that you chose me and David to bless us with that. You know a lot of people don't know that at that time when she blessed us, I had had six miscarriages and I had given up on having a child, and I had given up on having a child. But God had a different plan, and God had a plan that he wanted to bless a child. It really wasn't about us. No, he used me and Carla, but it really wasn't about us. It was about blessing a child and making sure a child had a blessed life, and so I think that really shows a lot of strength and we're going to get into that of Carla's strength. But let's start about Carla as a child. What was your upbringing, carla?
Speaker 4:I mean, it was what I would say is difficult. But also now that you know I've healed and I've been delivered from generational curses and strongholds, you know I can look back where I was angry, yes, and unforgiving. Okay, I agree, you know my mom had me when she was 15. I agree, you know my mom had me when she was 15. And there were things that happened in my life because she was a young mother that I had to forgive. But then I look back and I think she didn't know any better. Right.
Speaker 4:She was doing the best that she could, yes, given her circumstances, given her circumstances, and so I just so there were things that happened that ultimately I can say today that the enemy knew, yeah, the anointing that was on my life and he was coming after it, hard, strong Even, and it started at Well, I mean even at birth, to be, to be a baby of a teenage mother.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 4:And then things happened as young as four, abuse, yes, and moving. I went to eight different schools in Knox County, so never was there a firm foundation.
Speaker 3:Yeah, foundation.
Speaker 4:There was a firm foundation that I was always loved and I was always protected by God. I know that in my heart 100%. You know I was saved at eight. I always I longed for church and you know the elderly women in the church would always come get me or I would walk to church. But because of generational curses, even though I love the Lord, I still went off that narrow path and but God still had me. He did the whole time. He did, and his the glory of the Lord on my life, the grace and the mercy Jesus. So I Let God use you, carla.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 4:Let God use you, yes, and so there's that spirit coming on and I'll start crying, but I'm not going to and it's okay, you know. Just. You know, the day I turned 18, well, I quit high school. I quit school, and, jesus, I did not. School just wasn't for me. I would go in the back door or come in the front and go out the back, and so truancy was an issue and it was easier for all involved, meaning my mom and the school officials. It was easier for me just to sign out when I turned 17. And I did out when I turned 17. And I did the day I turned 18, I moved out and in with Jason, my husband now, and then I had Cameron one month after I turned 20. Are y'all?
Speaker 3:hearing this. Let's go back one thing. She said she quit school at 17 years old thing. Okay, she said she quit school at 17 years old. There was generational curses that were there and I can name a story that you told me. Do you remember you telling me a story about a neighbor? I think you can correct me that you were sent to school. You can correct me that you were sent to school and some way you got lice in your hair.
Speaker 4:Oh, I always had lice.
Speaker 3:Kept it Okay. She had lice in her hair and she literally, was it a neighbor that cut your hair? She?
Speaker 4:treated my hair. Please tell that story. So we lived in a concrete building that was split up into six different apartments and we were on the top floor. She was on the bottom and I was outside playing and she called me. She was like hey, come here. And I went down there and she treated my hair for loss and I remember having the treatment on my hair and my mom was calling for me or whatever, and um, so of course my mom got upset that this woman was treating my hair.
Speaker 3:But you know that was you know as a kid, you you know you want your parents to protect you, you want your parents to be your security. But what I'm hearing? You didn't have security, you didn't have protection. You didn't have the earthly protection, you had the godly protection. God allowed you to go through some things and experience some things that were very, very traumatizing, that were very, very traumatizing. I mean, you know, living in a house with your parents and constantly having lice and going to school and not having a lot of money and clothing and those different things that can do something to a child.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, oh for sure, and you so like in school back then. You know the nurse would come in there with her pencil and she would be checking everybody's hands and I knew I was going home. You know the nurse would come in there with her pencil and she would be checking everybody's hands and I knew I was going home. You know every time, and I know it was embarrassing, oh gosh, yeah. But thankfully I switched schools at different times.
Speaker 3:So that did help a little bit. What did that with the eight schools switching from school to school, what did that do to you? Did that? Was it a new beginning to you feeling? Or was it more of not being accepted somewhere and not having friends? And you know, like constant friends you had to constantly keep making new friends Absolutely and honestly.
Speaker 4:I can't remember the feelings then, but now I think of that as a blessing, because I can walk into a room with confidence and I can talk to the president, and I'm not. I look at people and I'm like they put their pants on, the same way I do every morning so why would? I. Why would I think that they're better than me or more powerful than me, or anything like that?
Speaker 4:so I think it gave me a confidence yes um, and I lean on Joshua 1 9 to be strong and courageous, to be strong and brave in every situation I walk into, because I know that the Lord already has my steps ordered already and I walk into it with bravery and strength.
Speaker 3:And so you had the curses there. You had the shackles on your feet, strongholds like no other, yeah. And so it was like, first of all, you got saved, and you got saved by God, yeah, okay. But then you got saved in an earthly way by God, again in the public eye, okay, but you had to go through some things.
Speaker 3:So at 18 years old, she moved out of her mom's house, she moved in her he's her husband now but she moved in with her boyfriend, okay, she moved in with her boyfriend and she went down the road of. You know, she didn't know who she was. I mean, there was no way you knew who you were and where you are now. You don't look like what you've been through. I mean, there was no way you knew who you were and where you are now. You don't look like what you've been through. I mean nothing like what you've been through. And so what did what was that? Like you know, going from your mom and dad's house or your mom and stepfather's house to moving in with your boyfriend. Did it feel like more security or did it feel like? This is just what I have to do?
Speaker 4:Both, both, I think, with the abandonment and because my dad, my mom being 15, my dad was 17. And even though he lived in Knoxville, there was never a relationship. So there was that abandonment as well, and abandonment is real.
Speaker 3:It is so real, especially in our communities. There are so many people that need to deal with their abandonment issues and don't realize a lot of the decisions they make in their adult life has to do with the abandonment issues. Please speak on it.
Speaker 4:Yes, so I believe that that caused me to put a wall up and bury that root, so to speak, trauma, and I replaced it with grinding yeah, working hard.
Speaker 3:And you turned trauma into purpose. Yes, you turned trauma into overcoming. Yes. You didn't accept what you've been through. You didn't wear it with a badge of armor. You wear you, you let it, you reflect it back to where you didn't want to go back to. So you, you went to grind it.
Speaker 4:I went to grind it.
Speaker 3:When did you go to Chuck Farhat's office? Shout out to Chuck Farhat oh Chuck. Yes, Chuck Farhat is our old employer that brought me and Carla together and we dedicate this episode to him because if it wasn't for Chuck, you know there's a lot of things he taught us that was so hard at the time and we felt like why are you so hard on us? Why are you doing this? And we can literally tell you stories of times that we were just so angry. But I thank God that Chuck saw something in us that we didn't see in ourself because we didn't know who we were at that time. When did you start working for Chuck Farhat? I was 18. 18 years old, 1998. 1998. She started working for a mortgage company as a telemarketer. As a telemarketer, and I come in and I get an ad about a loan officer In the newspaper.
Speaker 3:In the newspaper the little small ad that Chuck Farhat had out there, and that's how me and Carla met in Chuck Farhat's office and we embarked on. And I'm going to tell you the reason why we came together Cause I was in one office when I first started and I was sitting with a girl I am not going to even say her name because I don't want it to be, uh, that I'm bashing someone, okay, but she wasn't the person I needed to be sitting with, okay, and she was supposed to be training me. Well, she didn't train me anything. All she talked about the whole day is her dating the boss's son, okay, and so I'm sitting there trying to figure out.
Speaker 3:At the time I was going through a divorce, just just so much going well, no, no, no, no. Before that, when I first started, we wasn't separated at the time and we were going down that road, okay, and all I knew is I was going to be a single mom taking care of this kid that I don't know how I'm going to feed her, and I'm sitting with this processor. That wasn't teaching me anything. Well, three days into that I don't know if you remember this, three days into me, starting is when you, chuck, made you a processor came out of the back room. Yeah, he took her out of the back room of the telemarketing room and he made her a processor. But in the midst of that it was okay, I'm going to have you sit over here with this processor, you know, because he knew I wasn't learning from the other one, not knowing that Carla at that time, you know she was learning being a processor.
Speaker 4:Lord, I didn't even know the definition of a mortgage.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she didn't, we did not, we were that. I don't want to say dumb, but I'm like we were dumb to the situation we were in. Let me just say that because I just keep it real. Anyway, and I'll never forget, suzanne, shout out to Suzanne Thompson because she supports us as well. Is that, suzanne? You remember Suzanne's file? I was about to say that file, color coding. It goes down in history of the best Organization File. And, meg, I'll never forget Carla, suzanne, teaching me how to do this file, and I'll never forget you coming one day and I'm over to do this file. And I'll never forget you coming one day and I'm over here stacking this file, trying to get it all nice, and Carla comes pulling out the like the paper. Don't do it that way, you don't need all of that. I'll never forget. But it taught us structure. It really did you know? So, suzanne, listen, we had to lean back to that many times. I want you to know that. But Carla pulled out their papers and I was, and that's how our friendship started.
Speaker 4:I think it was Chuck that pulled the papers out, was it? I just remembered. I think it was.
Speaker 3:Chuck. Okay, well, let me refrain and say it was Chuck that pulled all those papers out. And, oh my gosh, and we're sitting here like we don't know if it's right or wrong, because I mean who are we?
Speaker 3:We only been in it three days, but I just think that God had his hand all over us, carla. I mean, I was in a marriage that was not good for me, not saying the person is a bad person. Rest in peace because he has passed away. He was a good person because he gave me my doctor, you know, but he wasn't. We wasn't good for each other, and you know a lot of things. I think that my ex-husband felt like I think he believed in me. He really did believe in me, but it was for his gain. You know, he wanted to push me to places where God wasn't ready for us to go. I think that even with you, carla, that was, you were so traumatized by your childhood that, you know, if we wouldn't have had a Chuck, I don't know where we would have been. God used him and please share. You know what was your beginnings, starting in mortgages.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what was it like.
Speaker 4:Wow. Well, it was not efficient because we had dial-up internet, right, correct. And it was very hard because I didn't know what a mortgage was. You know, because generations, the generations that I knew, you know my mom, my mom didn't know my paternal side, so I didn't know what a mortgage was Correct. But the Lord put me in a place where I could pull wisdom and was given wisdom which allowed me to. I processed for four years.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And then got a job opportunity as a title agent and I went over to title and started processing and closing transactions purchases and refis and you know, keep in mind, she didn't know how to do any of this. She's traumatized.
Speaker 3:She doesn't have family support. No, her mom and dad was not in her life in a positive way. Okay, I want people to really understand. You had nothing but God and you and Jason embarked on. You know what the life was going to be, but neither one of y'all knew. Y'all didn't have a clue.
Speaker 4:We had no clue and we had no support. So like if we had to pay a utility bill and we didn't have the money, we couldn't go to our parents and ask for money, correct? I mean, I remember pumping gas this was before prepaid, but it was a gas station out in Deep Farragut, it was that Wibles on the left.
Speaker 4:So I had pumped the gas and went in and the bank card had declined and I remember counting pennies, gathering all the change called Jason, and I'm like you're going to have to bring me some change or something. I've put my gas and I don't have the money, and so I remember counting specifically pennies to pay for my gas, and it was nothing like what you've been through. You know, thank the Lord, I'd be looking pretty rough.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because if you really think about it is even in those times. You know, even once David got in my life and everything you know. That's why I thank God that David does. You know he will always say he will always relate back to God and he'll say look how God has brought us through. You know that type of thing.
Speaker 3:He doesn't try to take credit for you know my success and I don't try to take credit for you know my success and I don't try to take care of credit for his, because our beginnings we did not have. You know, I'm saying we were just trying to figure it out but we were just making it day by day. You know, I'm saying you know you calling Jason, dylan, jason, to bring you some change or whatever, but he didn't have no more than you had. You know what I'm saying. So the only person that could make us is God. You know, that's the only thing that you know. David said to me the other day, Carla, he said I look at you now and he said I knew you was going to be you know something great. But he said, yvonca, I look at you now and he goes. I would have never been able to imagine this and I was like well, you couldn't imagine, I couldn't imagine you know what I'm saying because we have accomplished things, but it wasn't easy.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying Because we have accomplished things, but it wasn't easy. You know what I'm saying. You had a baby at 20. It wasn't given. It wasn't, it wasn't given and you had to go in and go to that job every day Nobody went there for you? No, nobody, no, okay, our families didn't go, our husbands didn't go, nobody went and working in a mortgage company with a lot of men working in there and women were not on the same level. Okay, it could have broke us, but it strengthened us.
Speaker 4:Yes, when you got to title, tell them what that was like that was hard, you know, because at that point I would have had Cameron, would have been like two, okay, and then we Was you scared to switch from mortgages to title?
Speaker 3:or was it the money I wasn't?
Speaker 4:scared. The money had me hyped because I went from you know know what $6 an hour at the mortgage company. Plus I would get bonuses on every file that I processed. That closed but even with that honey it was a struggle too but I was counting pennies, yeah, and so then, when title came and they offered me a salary, I was like salary, you thought you was rich, moving on up right.
Speaker 3:We call that gal rich. You thought you was rich baby.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes. So I was excited, but that salary probably evened out to about $6 an hour as much as I worked, because back then we didn't have mobile notaries. So now we can call a mobile notary that is self-employed and we say, hey, this loan's got to close at seven o'clock in Kingston. We're going to contract you to go close it for us. But it wasn't like that. Back then we had there was no contract notaries. Back then Rare, it was very rare and so I would come to work at nine, and most of the time nine o'clock at night. Yeah, there were nights that I was in Cocke County at midnight yes, I remember looking at the people's clock and it was midnight doing their closing and because that's what you had to do to keep the business you had to if you told a loan officer.
Speaker 4:No, you went to go do their closing. They're gone. They're gone and for real so, yeah, you, you are.
Speaker 3:No, it was serious. Yeah, and that could have been the money that you made to feed your kids or kid or whatever. Because I know, literally with me I would go to Chuck's from 9 to 4.30 and clock in service merchandise by 5.15. And I would not get home. When I first started I would not get home to 9.30, 10 o'clock at night. You know what I'm saying. And even with when I got rid of that job and I just had one job, I mean, think about it I had to call leads. So when you come home it's not like I got to cut off or whatever.
Speaker 3:And there was many times when me and David first started dating and I finally did allow David to be around. Adrian David was my babysitter. He was, you know, but the best part about that is it helped David to build a relationship with Adrian that is so strong now. You know he appreciates that time. Know, but I would. I couldn't have paid for child care. Think about what child care was back then. You know it's high now, but what I'm saying is you had a salary, but look at me, I wish you had work.
Speaker 4:I did and Jason, you know he was a brick and block Mason. Yeah, so he would you know weather, battle the weather, hot, cold, you know, and then just the physical. But then he would come home and have to take care of a baby.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And then and that's not easy either. No, and you know. Then Bailey, I had Bailey in 2006 and still going strong for a minute, and then the market crashed Right and so when the market crashed.
Speaker 3:It crashed in 08 and it crashed hard. Yes, we had built up. Just imagine this, guys. She's saying she's a high school dropout. She's telling you she was traumatized in her childhood. She had lice in her hair on a regular, okay, regular, okay. She got her head shaved regularly because she didn't have medicine, the money to go buy the medicine.
Speaker 4:Well, it didn't work. No more, right yeah.
Speaker 3:They were like this ain't Exactly, yeah, you know. And then she didn't have a mom and dad that were in her life.
Speaker 4:As a positive.
Speaker 3:As a positive. Let's talk about it. What was it like not having mom and dad?
Speaker 4:Well, I had my mamaw. You did my sweet mamaw.
Speaker 3:Yes, she was your everything.
Speaker 4:Yes, and my mom was too. I don't want to take from her because she didn't know better. Yes, so I can't bash her for what she don't know. When you offer up the ability for the Lord to come in and heal you and deliver you, you see things in a different light, you, you, you see things in a different light. You do. I see things in a spiritual light. Now, I know the dark side and I know the strongholds that can take over in the dark side. So I can't, in my heart of hearts, I can't bash her hearts. I can't bash her.
Speaker 4:Did it affect me? Yes, right, um, but I am who I am today because of the struggle, and I'm on the other side. Let God use you. I'm on the other side because I allowed the Lord, I had faith, I believed. Did I mess up? Absolutely. Did I step off that narrow path Many a times? But I got back up. Yes, you did, and I stay up. But if I fall, I don't use it as an excuse. I don't play victim. I don't. I don't feed off of poor, poor, pitiful me. That's not, that's not the strength that the Lord has given me and you don't use your.
Speaker 3:That's not the strength that the Lord has given me, and you don't use your. She doesn't use her trauma to weaponize and make excuses of why she didn't do this or why she didn't do that is what I see.
Speaker 3:I will say this. I will say this Every family goes through things and there can be a lot of demons in it. It can be abuse, it can be drug use, it can be a lot of different things and Carla's family had it all and Carla's childhood she saw it all, to the abuse, to you know, the drug use, all those different things. The one thing that stuck out to me is when you got pregnant with Cameron.
Speaker 3:I never forget you saying to me you may were like three, four months pregnant. Then you were like it's going to be different if I'll go what I endured in my childhood. I'm not going to allow my kids to take that in their childhood. And does that mean okay? Carla, you know, never makes a mistake. I'm not saying she doesn't, she hadn't made mistakes. But the one thing I can say is is that your heart was always right. You wanted more for your kids. You wanted to make sure that you broke the curses and you went to the church. I'll never forget inviting you to Bishop Wright's church. That's another person that did so much for me and Carla at such a young age of just talking to us and just knowing praying for us unbelievable, knowing, praying for us, unbelievable and just truly believing in us and seeing something that we couldn't see in ourselves.
Speaker 3:Bishop, I'll never forget you. Coming to the church the first day, he said there's something in that girl right there. He said it's something in there and God's going to bring it out of her. I'll never forget that. Him said it to me and he said it's something in there and God's going to bring it out of her. I'll never forget that. Him said it to me and he said there's something in her, and now the world's getting to see what's in her and getting to see God. It was all in his plan. So let's go to the next chapter. Good stuff, and that's going to the.
Speaker 4:Let's go to the next the good stuff, and that's going to be that do you want to say? Start with. Genesis start with Genesis, so Genesis. So I guess I started claiming that I was going to have a title company, probably like 05-06 2005-2006. However, have a title company probably like 0506 2005 2006. However, even though I was speaking it, jesus, the trauma on the inside was like who are you to speak such a word?
Speaker 4:you can't do that oh I mean, I had like a 400 credit score and if you remember, Chuck used to tell us for a 400 credit score you get that name. For your name you get that for your name and address.
Speaker 3:Yes, oh, he would dog out a 400 score, I mean literally.
Speaker 4:You know I had collections. She was a judge.
Speaker 3:Yeah, total debt. Yes, collections judgments Judgment yeah, total debt, yes, inflations judgments we were literally doing mortgages for people. I think that really is what humbled us, because even though we were doing mortgages and that's why I always tell people, just because we're doing the mortgages or whatever, and that is our craft and that is our career it's not like we haven't been there. But you know, I'm saying and and I always, carla, can tell you we always gravitated to people that had bad credit. We always did. But I think it was because we knew we had been there. We knew we were there at some times. We were doing mortgages, we had judgments and collections ourselves, and I think a lot of professionals forget, they forget when they were there and they forget. You know, I've been in credit card debt a couple times. You know what I'm saying and I think that's what sets us apart is because we never forgot. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:And so she wanted Genesis and she wanted to talk to her. She told me, flat, I want a title, coming to Ivanka, and I was like, and I believed that she was going to get one. You're going to have it. Did I know how? No, I didn't, or whatever. And then let's talk about Bishop Henry.
Speaker 4:But I remember David saying what about Bishop Henry? But I remember David saying what did David? Say that I needed to. This is David right, so I needed to poop or get off the pot, and I will never forget that because I talked about it.
Speaker 1:So much.
Speaker 4:He didn't say that word, but he said another word.
Speaker 1:But you know, how David is.
Speaker 3:Yes, and that's what he kept telling me. Y'all know, on my Facebook live I be telling him a cuss word to come at us about. I say it's a family show. You can't do that. Yeah, so he didn't say poop, no, he didn't let your imagination go.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so, um, I, I remember that to this day well. So I went to Kingdom Life that weekend, me and my girls, and I think it was like a revival week. Or maybe we were celebrating Bishop. One or the other we might have been celebrating. I think it was both. I think it was. He did a revival.
Speaker 3:And the last day, because Bishop never liked those multiple days of just talking about him, multiple days of just talking about him. I think the very last day, that Sunday was the day that we were celebrating Bishop and Bishop Henry out of Florida was coming to close out his revival.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, go ahead, tell us more. So me and the girls are in the congregation. Congregation and Bishop Henry's up there. Give it a word.
Speaker 3:Go back a little bit. This white girl, only white girl. Only white girl in the thing, with two white kids coming to predominantly black Well just say a black church, because there was no other whites in this church. She's sitting in the middle of this, middle to the back of yeah, on the left side. I remember this in the back.
Speaker 4:Go ahead okay and he stops and I'm so. I've had no experience with prophets, prophetic messages, nothing like that. So he stops and I'm like. He's like okay, I need, I need you to come up here to the front and you know I'm looking around, like okay, so is this like halftime show or something you know?
Speaker 4:look, she ain't never been to no black church so I'm looking, I'm watching, and then he calls me out by dress color, right? So I'm like oh no, I know, I know I can't worship in sound beat, right, I know you don't have to call me out. This is what's going through my head. I'm like lord jesus. So my little white self goes up there and I'm standing in the pulpit and bishop's like what's the name of your business?
Speaker 3:and I was like jesus, let me just tell you y'all know, adrian's my producer of this show and adrian does all the things. Adrian is over and dying right now.
Speaker 4:Y'all go ahead oh it's real though it's real and I told you.
Speaker 3:I didn't prepare for this interview. She didn't prepare for this because I wanted to be open to wrong.
Speaker 4:Go ahead, it's all love it is so I go up there and Bishop's little white girl, the black church. Yes, go up there. And Bishop says what's the name of your business? And I was like what? I was like I don't have a business. And I turned to my right and I seen Ivanka and she was crying and I was like something's happening why is she?
Speaker 4:crying. And I turned back to him and, um, I remember my ears started ringing and I could hardly hear what he was saying. But I got bits and pieces and I must have looked even wider than I was because he said somebody probably need to get her a chair, because she might, yes. And so he said your knees were knocking. Yeah, the spirit came on me.
Speaker 4:Yeah knocking like, yeah, the spirit came on me, yeah, and he said the lord said for you to open the business that he will provide to you as a david at saul's table, jesus, and it took 10 years for me to know what that message meant. That message meant that I I have been a David to these business owners all the years prior Jesus, and I have been a David to those Saul's in my life. I have ran their business, I have taken care of their business Just like it was my own. Just like David served Saul. It was my own, just like David served Saul. And Bishop said the Lord has prepared a table for you. And that fired me up like no other. So, of course, now the enemy comes in right and he's like okay, so you're a high school dropout, you have a 400 credit score, you have no money in the bank, you have judgment. How are you going to open a title company? And this was in 2010.
Speaker 3:Are y'all hearing this.
Speaker 4:So I was like okay, so first thing I need to do is I got to get my GED, because no underwriter title insurance underwriter is going to sign me if I don't have a diploma. And so I went and I got my GED. Then I went and got my title agent test. I failed it the first time.
Speaker 3:I had to go back up here.
Speaker 3:But we're going to go back for one second. Here's the connection In that same prophetic word he told her to link. He said he used my last name. He said land. He said wait a minute, wait a minute. He said I see y'all doing something together.
Speaker 3:And do you remember him saying that part? Because she was so in the spirit y'all, it was so powerful and he broke down my last name and that's why a lot of people don't understand, why you know people are like well, why do you? You know, I know your last name is Landis, you know da-da-da. That's why I go back to that name, because Bishop Henry told me respect my name and to respect, you know, what God had given me.
Speaker 3:And when he broke down my name to Carla, it gave me value through you, and I don't think I've ever told you that Through you, and I don't think I've ever told you that is, that it did not register to me what your name. My grandmother told me that your name should be more important to you than anything, more than any title, position or whatever. But when he used your story and when he was talking to you about letting he broke down my last name to you, you gave me value. You gave me you, you gave me vision through the prophetic word that he gave to you. So I thank you for that you're welcome I thank you.
Speaker 3:Now go ahead. Land is, land is. That's what it was. That's exactly what he said land is yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4:so this was 2010, so the ged title agent test had to take it twice, and then I used um back when I used to get a huge tax return.
Speaker 1:Yes, Don't get no earned income credit.
Speaker 4:Thank you, lord, I mean, but it is what it is. So that chunk of money I used to pay off collections and credit card debt and in the January 2nd 2012, okay, um, genesis real estate title opened now keep in mind she had worked for a mortgage company.
Speaker 3:She had worked for three, three title companies, so that's four total companies she's talking about. She had helped build those businesses. Okay, those businesses were at its height when she was there. Okay, some of them are not in business anymore. I think only one is. They recently sold out, though.
Speaker 4:Okay so never mind.
Speaker 3:So none of them are open, and so she. So Bishop Henry tells her here you go, god wants you to open this business. But the trauma told her she didn't do it. The the trauma told her she didn't do it. The abandonment told her she couldn't do it. Her credit score told her she couldn't do it. But the accountability she had to take, her trauma from her childhood, didn't get her the GED. That trauma did't get her the GED. That trauma did not get her the credit score she can't blame. Yes, she didn't learn credit when she was a kid, but the choices that she made is why she had a 400 credit score. And the reason why I'm saying that is because I need people to understand is is that, even though you done went through trauma you can't use, you can't, like she says, be the victim or victimize things. Oh, this is why. No, she didn't pay her bills.
Speaker 4:Hey, they were giving me credit cards. Okay, she didn't pay her bills. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:She was living off of them and all that kind of stuff, and so she had to accept accountability and she had to go back to school.
Speaker 4:I did and so there were people put in my life that that allowed me to open Genesis, and so that allowed me to open Genesis, and so 2012,. Open Genesis and the name is to me is the beginning of breaking the curse of never stepping out in faith.
Speaker 3:Jesus.
Speaker 4:I didn't have the faith until the Lord sent a man to tell me, because the Lord probably got tired of he was probably saying the same thing David did, but just in a cleaner version, right.
Speaker 3:Just do it, do it.
Speaker 4:Go, get off the pot, go, get off the pot, go, and For such a time as this. So I started out in a small office, got all my furniture off of like Craigslist. My closing table was a dining room table that. I bought off Craigslist and stayed in that office for a couple of years One employee I had it was myself and one other employee for five years and then we moved to a larger office where I got to decorate and paint on my own brand new furniture.
Speaker 3:And let me tell you, I'll never forget you buying your dining room table Glass. But let me tell you something it was hers, okay, she claimed that and she was so proud of that and she's like sissy, I got this and you gotta come over here, keep going so then we stayed um.
Speaker 4:then I hired another person, so we went, went from myself in one to myself in two, and so that was probably year six and we just started year 11. Then I opened a second location in Clinton, which is my.
Speaker 3:Are y'all hearing? She started Genesis. She did sweat equity. She worked For a long time. It was just her in her office. Then it was she got employees. She had her office five years, just sweat equity.
Speaker 4:Oh, let me tell you that first year, though, I knocked it out the park, right Right, but because I still had those habits, those financial habits, not having that wisdom, I didn't even know if I was going to be able to pay my rent. I drained the bank account, basically, see, because I went from a salary to being a person who was self-employed, and it's different.
Speaker 3:It's very different and see, a lot of people don't realize that is that everybody wants to be an entrepreneur. But if you don't have a business mind, I don't care, It'll go fast, it'll go Real fast.
Speaker 4:And you won't even know it's gone until you look up. And I didn't even know if I could pay the rent and did I quit. No, I just kept going. And today, go ahead. Genesis is debt free.
Speaker 3:Debt free. She owns two title companies. She owns one off of North Shore and she owns another one in Clinton, and so the best part of Genesis is just knowing. You had to believe in yourself. You had to figure out a way to believe that, no matter what I went through, it doesn't define you. And you had to realize that you had to break some habits, you had to break some curses, you had to say no to yourself. There's a lot of things you had to do, and you had all these babies looking at you like what are we going?
Speaker 4:to do. I had to get it together, Get it all in together okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know. And so she's got two title companies that are thriving Even in a market like it is. They're thriving, yeah, you know. And she's been through a hard market before. 08 was the hardest we've ever been through, but she didn't give up was the hardest we've ever been through, but she didn't give up. She didn't give up and she shares her story in such a way that is inspiring. You know that, no matter what, you had twins at 39, that would have been an easy way to give up. You just got to keep working at it and know, you know, when I got a family, I've got businesses and I've worked to be here. You've worked to be here. In your personal life, in your business life, in your spiritual life, you've worked to be here. So what? What's next? Or what did come next?
Speaker 4:There's already a next. So we had an opportunity that came and I bought a commercial building in Clinton and we moved the Clinton location to that building. Half of it is Genesis and the other half was vacant.
Speaker 3:And let me just say this the day that you called me and told me you bought a building, no, no, you told me you were buying a building.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:You know how you get that feeling of when one of your family members does something. Well, you should get this feeling. It's just like they doing it. That was my proud moment. I was so proud, as your big sister, that my little sister bought a freaking building. Okay, and knowing I know your story, now tell them about your building.
Speaker 4:Half is Genesis, and then the other half set vacant for about a year and um, so I had the vision of ice cream. First it was like daycare or run a daycare, because there was a shortage in clinton of daycares, but just the liability of that. And um, ice cream, I was, I was like Lord, all I know is how to eat ice cream. Yes, but the logistics of a restaurant business, it's a lot. I had no clue. I mean title is my niche. I mean real estate, that's my thing and that's my baby and that's my passion. Yes, but the community I wanted something for the community.
Speaker 4:Um, so it just started piece by piece. The first thing that went up was a pergola that has seven porch swings around it. You know, because we were coming out of a time of, you know, covid, where nobody wanted to be around each other. You know, nobody was shaking hands anymore. We were just losing that personal touch and that in that community. And um, so I built the, had the pergola custom built and um, then we started on the build out of the ice cream shop and the Lord again just put people in my life with wisdom, and one man was from out in California that helped me with all the equipment and the layout and you know I hired the subcontractors and had the ice cream spot built.
Speaker 3:Are y'all understanding? This is not something that she knew, and so the biggest thing I would like viewers to realize is follow your dreams and create dreams.
Speaker 3:Some people don't take time out long enough to stop to jot down things that they like or they would like to do. That's where dreams come from, is when you figure out what you like to do, what you're passionate about or whatever. She's a toddler girl All day, every day. Okay, but she wanted to do more. I mean, she had these two boys. She wanted to do more.
Speaker 3:And to the people that's out here that think you can't do more than one thing, we're showing you you can and you can do it efficiently and you can do it without dropping the ball. And both businesses thrive. And you've done it. Carla, I did. I'm one of her agents. She has not fell short on one of my closings. Anytime I call and I need a question answered, questions get answered by her or her employees and she has put the right of employees in place that she can go build more wealth and build for her community. You know I commend you on that Because the girl that didn't come from a lot could have had those abandonment issues to reap its head on Burfield and it wouldn't have never been.
Speaker 3:All the thing I can remember you saying is I said well, why do you want an ice cream shop? And you said well, because the community needs it. You didn't say my family needed it. She didn't say that. She said well, because the community needs it. She's like I just see a need Clinton does not have, you know, like a full-service ice cream shop.
Speaker 4:And we don't have indoor seating, because the vision was community and I see worship nights and tent revivals.
Speaker 3:Tell them about your 4th of July, what she just did on 4th of July. I mean, how many ice cream shops?
Speaker 4:do this? Tell them. Well, we sointon has a fourth of july party down on lakefront and they'll have a firework show and um so um, we uh, rented from turn and knocks the movie experience.
Speaker 3:Thank you, and see how family helps each other.
Speaker 4:Yes, and we me and one of my workers. Her teenage brother helped me get all that set up.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 4:And then people were able to see the fireworks from our yard and also watch a movie and it was not planned, but it ended perfectly. We watched Shrek, okay. So when the firework finale was happening, shrek's ending was happening, and it was that where they were having the American Idol scene yes. I believe, yes, and so that was. It was a perfect time. And it wasn't stage dreaming, it just happened. And I believe and you brought community that it was a perfect time and it wasn't stage dreaming, it just happened, and I believe.
Speaker 4:And you brought community that it was a perfect time and they had a good time.
Speaker 3:Y'all have to go and look on Burville's page of the videos that were shot At this ice cream shop. They had a movie experience and just to see how the community came together and just had their moment. I highly recommend you going out and trying out Burrville, you know, and make a date night. Go to Burrville, you know, drive to Clinton, even if you're in Nassau. Drive to Clinton and have a date night. Do something different. Let it not be all you know. Yes, we support local, okay, but they're local too. Clinton is local, you know.
Speaker 4:You can sit on the swing and the sunsets are just beautiful where that swing was perfectly placed and I don't know, it's just title has always been my passion, but I love deep.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 4:And I love Clinton, love my community.
Speaker 3:She does.
Speaker 4:And I love Knoxville too. I was born and raised in Knoxville, but in that town, you know, I know that my kids can go somewhere and it's. I'm always telling my kids All eyes on you All our eyes.
Speaker 3:yes, and I know, in a heartbeat.
Speaker 4:Yeah, thank the Lord, I do have good kids.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 4:Now the boys may give me a run for my money they might be doing something crazy not criminal.
Speaker 3:Yes, but yes, but boys are boys. I've got a son and y'all hear me talk about my 15 year old yeah yeah, that's another thing. Yeah, your nephew wants to. Now he said he wants to get buffed. Okay, so now he's going to work out. So, yes, I'm like, work your energy off into a good way. That's a good thing.
Speaker 4:Better get some protein honey.
Speaker 3:So how we're going to end this? She did not know this. Okay, how we're going to end this podcast. I need Carla, I'm not going to say one word. I need you to speak to my viewers and I need you to tell them, give them advice on giving up, not giving up, getting up and getting past trauma In your words, not mine. I need your words. Okay, not giving up, get up and getting past trauma. Now go, okay.
Speaker 4:Well, I Take your time, the not giving up. I think that is a mindset I think you have to have a mindset of I'm not going to quit, I'm going to grind every day, no matter whether or not I feel like it, because you're, you're sowing in those moments and the trauma. I'll tell you. I'm just now dealing with the trauma I mean honestly, and that's through a deeper relationship with Jesus. You know, I went to a mainstream church and I wasn't taught a different, a deeper relationship with Jesus. And now I'm at a different church and I'm learning a deeper relationship with Jesus. And now I'm at a different church and I'm learning a deeper relationship with Jesus. And when you go deep, there's some things that have to be delivered from your life. There's roots, set up, trauma and the deliverance, the spiritual side of it. I'm a firm believer today. To be a breaker, a generational curse breaker, to be a breaker, you're going to be the weird one ultimately.
Speaker 3:Yes, you are and you're going to get judged, you're going to get judged.
Speaker 4:Yes, you are and you're going to get judged. You're going to get judged. But the only one that I worry about judging me is the man upstairs, as my mama used to say. And in deliverance it doesn't happen like that. There's healing, there's roots, there's forgiveness, and I have a great counselor that is walking me through that. But I lean more on Jesus and I seek the Lord. I seek him in the word, I seek him in my heart. I have my quiet time. I even fast now, which I'm not very good at, but I will be one day. But it's baby steps to go from glory to glory to glory and I pray that each and every one of you that hear this and are looking for that strength that you will find it, you ask God to renew your mind and soften your heart so that he can use you.
Speaker 3:Forgiveness is key.
Speaker 4:Forgiveness is key.
Speaker 3:You can't go through deliverance without forgiveness and the last one is getting up, getting up just do it.
Speaker 4:I, I don't. There's not a recipe, it's not, there's not.
Speaker 3:People ask me all the time Yvonne, how do you do so much? Because I don't think about it, I just do. I just do and I just pray to God that he gives me the strength to do. Yes, but you know, and some people are like, well, I don't have the strength that you have, but when you get in the word, when you get into God, he'll give you that strength. You got to pick up that Bible, dust that Bible off and you have to say you know what? Let me say this Before I knew how to search in the Bible, I would pick up the Bible and I would open up the Bible, let it fall open and wherever it fell open, that's why, excuse me, that's what I would read, because I didn't know it either. So don't think that me and Carla we had this secret way of reading the Bible or the secret way of praying.
Speaker 4:We had to learn intimately Just in the last year.
Speaker 3:I've just been seeking, so don't even use that as an excuse, like the way I see god now it it transforms weekly daily. I mean, you know, I don't seek him always the same way.
Speaker 4:No, and I wake up praising god.
Speaker 3:Thank you, lord and I'll and let me say this I'm gonna touch on when she was saying that you know you get judged or whatever. When you start seeking God, you'll have family, friends, strangers that will tell you that you know you're being weird or you're being this or whatever. You know you're crazy, I got you're crazy, I, whatever. You know you're crazy, I got you're crazy. I don't know if you got that I got.
Speaker 3:Many times people told me I was crazy and I was not relatable anymore. I had one guy that I've been friends with a long time, that he literally went on a Facebook post and said and it really hurt me. He went on on there. He said you know what? The person I used to like you've changed. You're not the person that was cool Literally says this it really hurt me because I was like but what God showed me was when you with me, you will change. That's not a a good, that's not a bad thing, ivanka, that's a good thing because that's what you're supposed to do is change.
Speaker 3:So people will weaponize you and make you feel like you're crazy, or make you feel like that you um are the problem or the trouble, or you're, or whatever. The more they do that, that's when you know you're on the right path, because, people, when you're on the right path, the devil's coming in to steal your joy. So you have to realize you got to get up and, like she said, you just got to do it. You know what I'm saying? Carla, what's next? What's next for Carla? I promise y'all bring her back, because she's great for this podcast. Y'all.
Speaker 4:What's next? I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Just waiting on God to tell you.
Speaker 4:Absolutely. I don't make a move without him. She says she don't make a move without her, without God, and that's key, and just remember, a day to him could be a thousand to us, correct, oh yes. So patience is key, yeah.
Speaker 3:And realize it doesn't, like she said, doesn't happen overnight. No, thank you for coming.
Speaker 4:You're welcome. I love you.
Speaker 3:I love you and I'm proud of you and I want you to know that you inspire me, thank you. You pull things out of me that you don't realize. You pull out of your big sister. And for title Genesis title I highly recommend they're the best in the business. Okay, the best in business. I'm not saying it's because of my sister, because she can tell you if I didn't believe that, I would not do business with her. She knows this. Okay, they are the best in the business. They are very detailed, they always make sure your closings are a smooth, joyful experience and for you to get closure in the right way to protect your investment. So I highly recommend you to look out for Genesis and please tell how they can get in touch with you.
Speaker 4:So it's Genesis Real Estate Title and the phone number is 865-454-8000. And you can find us on socials. Our website is GenesisRealEstateTitlecom. And Burrville and Burrville and Burrville Sweet Treats. You can find us on socials, facebook, instagram. We're located at 195 Edgewood Avenue in Clinton, so if you come to the four-way of Highway 25 and 62, there's a Walgreens there on the corner with a Burger King beside it, and our building is directly behind Walgreens.
Speaker 3:Very easy to find oh yes, very easy, and it's.
Speaker 4:The yard is has a black fence around it so that the littles don't run out in the road as they're running around and eating their ice cream. So it's Burrville, burrows and Colds. Burrows is our last name and then also Clinton, the history of Clinton. It used to be called Burrville, so it has three different ties into the name, but it's Burrville, sweet Treats and Clinton.
Speaker 3:There you go. So I highly recommend you to go out, have a date night, have a family night. Go to Burrville, sit on the swings and swing with your family and be present with your family and for the events. We will make sure that we will be posting all the different events that's coming in the future so you'll know what all Burrville is doing, all that Carla is doing in the future. So you'll know what all Burrville is doing, all that Carla's doing, and make sure that you support her, support local, and know you are worthy. You are worthy to have a blessed life and Carla just shared hers and you know what? One day you'll share yours. Yes, tune in every Friday to Yvonca's Talking with Tennessee, with Yvonca podcast, because we are here to inspire you.
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