Between Hope and Heartbreak

Ep 36 When Empty Nest & Estrangement Collide: Healing, Identity, and Rediscovering Joy (with Pamela Henkelman)

Nicole Coates Episode 36

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Nicole interviews Pamela Henkelman—empty nest coach and host of the Midlife Momma Podcast—about the overlap between empty nesting and estrangement, and the identity shift moms face when a long-held role changes.

In this conversation, Pamela shares:

  • The shift from a directing role to a supporting role with adult children
  • How to process transitional grief 
  • Why it’s important to ground your worth in Christ instead of your children’s choices
  • How to listen with empathy + validation (without equating it to agreement)
  • Finding fresh purpose in a new season—even if you “do it scared”

They also touch on:

  • Long-distance parenting + limited grandchild contact
  • Prodigals and prayer
  • Family strain and political division

Quick Links: Pamela + Resources

🌿 Website: https://www.pamelahenkelman.com/

📲 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phenkelman/

🎧 Podcast: The Midlife Momma Podcast

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