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From Stage Monitors to Hearing Aids: A Drummer's Audio Evolution

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Ever wonder what happens when a musician's most precious tool—their hearing—begins to fade? Moe Jerant, founding member of the Large Flowerheads and a professional drummer for over 20 years, takes us through her remarkable 15-year journey with hearing technology that saved her career and transformed her life.

The wake-up call came unexpectedly during a vocal lesson when Moe couldn't produce certain notes. A specialist's jarring comparison—"your snare drum has almost the same impact as a pistol going off"—forced her to confront a difficult truth: her passion was damaging her hearing. What followed was a journey through evolving hearing technology, from early custom devices that made sound seem "like it was coming through a wall" to modern receiver-in-canal instruments that restored clarity and musical nuance.

Moe candidly shares the embarrassing moments that pushed her to seek help—like responding to questions with completely unrelated answers—and the incredible transformation in her performance capabilities after adopting in-ear monitors. Beyond the stage, her hearing journey has enhanced her work leading therapeutic drum circles for seniors, where she witnesses firsthand how untreated hearing loss can lead to social withdrawal and isolation.

This episode offers a powerful reminder about the connection between hearing health and overall wellbeing. Whether you're a musician, music lover, or simply someone concerned about maintaining quality connections throughout life, Moe's parting advice resonates: "Don't doubt yourself. If you think you have a hearing issue, even a tiny one, get it checked." Your future self will thank you.

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Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Thank you. And a growing national epidemic hearing loss. On this episode we have Mo Durant from the Large Flowerheads. Join us, mo. Welcome to the show.

Moe Jerant:

Thank you so much. It's great to be here.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

It is so nice to have you on the show. A professional musician for well over 20 years, mo, and also a patient of ours for well over 15 years.

Moe Jerant:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Okay, we are so excited for this episode. Let's dive right in, share your story. You are a professional musician, let's get right into it. Okay, which chapter? Let's start with chapter one Chapter one, when I was a young child.

Moe Jerant:

Well, I'm a native to the Lehigh Valley. I play drums, I play guitar, I sing. Right now I'm one of the founding members of the Large Flowerheads which is pretty much a large part of what I do musically circle and I do more stress reduction and healing programs and community drum circles and I take drumming and rhythm to people that you would not expect would have a takeaway from it, but they actually have a very deep takeaway from it. So I have kind of this like alter ego of Mo the rock star and Mo the person who hangs out with all different kinds of people and does all different kinds of things through rhythm.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

I mean, mo, that's absolutely incredible. Because that's what's so amazing about music it is the universal language, and language in and of itself is a code in which ideas are shared and everyone can really share music. Right, it's a universal language, mo, what inspired you to enter the music industry? I mean, did you start playing when you were young? When did this music bug kind of bite you?

Moe Jerant:

I can't say for sure where it came from within me, but it must have been happening, because when I finished seventh grade my family moved from Bethlehem to Coopersburg and a bunch of the girls that I knew and hung out with and talked with as a going away gift they got me a snare drum.

Moe Jerant:

And I know right and so I just took that and kind of ran with it across the years and developed it and, you know, did that kind of stuff and it was. You know. It's the kind of thing that I prefaced by saying I don't know how it came out of me, but it must've been there and it must've been really obvious to them. So they're like, oh well, this could be a cool gift and we'll just give her that and you said thank you for sparking a full career of music right.

Moe Jerant:

The person that I still am in contact occasionally comes to see the band and she always says the same thing. I can't believe where this took you.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

And what you and your bandmates have built, mo, being a musician, you rely on your sense of hearing. Oh my God. Every single day, you play, you practice, you rehearse, you perform. When did you start to notice a decrease in your overall hearing sensitivity, like was there a specific incident? Was this gradual?

Moe Jerant:

No, no, what happened was I was and I was thinking about this. It was probably in, maybe like the late 70s, early 80s, For some reason. I went to a friend of mine for vocal lessons and I'm singing through the scales and you know, I get da-da-da-da-da, and all of a sudden I get to this point in my voice where there's no note coming out and it all sounds like ah, and I thought it was funny and the woman who was teaching me said, no, that's a big problem. And I was taken by surprise. She suggested that I go see an ear, nose and throat specialist, which I did.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

He looked at my throat and said, guess what?

Moe Jerant:

You have singer's nodules. And so I said, okay, how do we deal with this? That was a couple-month process, but it basically involved me not talking for about three or four months.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Vocal rest.

Moe Jerant:

Which was a huge challenge because at the time I was teaching and I had maybe 30 students a week and I couldn't not teach or not play on weekends. You know what I'm saying. I was at a spot where I couldn't just say, oh, I need three months off and then try to figure out how to pay my bills. So you know, we went forward with the treatment and, of course, after a while that all worked out. But one of the times I was in the specialist's office he said to me when was the last time you had your hearing checked? I said oh geez, I don't know, maybe I was in elementary school.

Moe Jerant:

He goes that's it, get in the booth. So I went in the booth and he came back and he goes well, you know you have some loss coming on. You play drums. You have to rethink this. You have to rethink this. You have to think about what frequencies and sound pressure are like when you're playing. He then translated to me your snare drum is basically going to have almost the same capabilities as a pistol or a rifle going off, and you would not see a guy on a rifle range without hearing protection.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

And I sat there going On a rifle range without hearing protection.

Moe Jerant:

No. And I sat there going, wow, he's right. And he said the worst your snare drum is bad, but the worst culprit is your cymbals.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

And I said, wow, okay, especially where the hi-hats are.

Moe Jerant:

Oh, yeah, right.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Hi-hat right next to the snare drum.

Moe Jerant:

Yeah, yeah. So you know, across the course of time I was like, well, you know, okay. And you know. Across the course of time I was like, well, you know, okay. And then also we had the conversation how do I deal with this? He said you're going to need hearing protection. And we talked about that a little bit and he suggested I go with the foam. You know things that you squish and put in your ear. They work great, but you can't hear pitch well enough to sing.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

No, nope.

Moe Jerant:

So I went to the hollowed out things with the little bud that you know musician earplugs?

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Yeah, absolutely.

Moe Jerant:

And that was okay, but it still was. It was not enough hearing protection, but I could hear to sing and it was just kind of weird. So basically what happened was I ended up meeting the two of you and your family and we had a bunch of conversations about all different kinds of stuff and I ended up in your office you and your family, and we had a bunch of conversations about all different kinds of stuff and I ended up in your office. That's a bad thing. It was actually great.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

So you first started coming to Audiology Services over I mean my gosh 15 years ago.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

But, you started to come to our original office, which was in Bethlehem. I did, yeah, and I feel like I remember the first time that you were there because I was, of course, younger and well, we all were, you know like just getting stuck because, being a musician as well, my parents were like, oh, this is Mo. She helped us out with whether it be which drumsticks to use and stuff like that, like she's a professional musician. And I still remember when you first came to Audiology Services. So we helped you out. Yeah, you did. We got you on the road to better hearing and I know, prior to the show, you had said I can touch upon the evolution of my own hearing technology. So what was your life like when you were first fit with hearing technology over 12, 15 years ago?

Moe Jerant:

Well, let me go back a step to what it was like before. Yes, okay, let's do it. One of the things that Dr Delfino said to me when we talked about my hearing test was here's where you are on the spectrum, so to speak, and it's obvious to me that you kind of understand. You have hearing loss and you've become very adaptive and you're not like a perfect lip reader, but you can use it in conjunction to what you're hearing to get by. So for right now you don't really need anything, but you're gonna, you know.

Moe Jerant:

And then, of course, I come back and say well, how about if I just get one in my bad ear and he goes no, your head, your brain, your ears don't work like that. And I left the office and instead of going man, that dude's trying to sell me stuff I thought about it and I went. You know what he's right? He's absolutely right. It was more of following the thought process of how you hear, and if you understand that, it changes the whole deal. So now to go back to what it was like after I got my first set of instruments. My first set of instruments were molds no-transcript.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

They're still available, but what's amazing is that, with the evolution of the technology, is that we can successfully fit patients with open fittings like what you currently wear, because the technology has caught up, dr Delfino.

Dr. Gregory Delfino:

Yeah, and the other issue is that, because of the sophistication in the technology, we were able to place more than one microphone. We were limited with regard to the geography how much space or real estate we had on an ITE, whereas with the behind the ear we've got more space to put more microphones, so we get much better sound resolution, so agreed.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

So you started with the in the ear custom hearing instruments Two sets of those.

Moe Jerant:

Okay, because the dog ate one. No, he really did. It got the second pair and I can't remember why. I was in the office and I was talking to your mom and we were having the conversation and she said you know, I'm going to lend you a pair of these. You got to try them and she put them in and we set them up and I went home and I was like whoa, this is a whole new world.

Moe Jerant:

And I have a friend who is also my drum tech, who I referred to your office and your mom fit fitted her too, and when I went to her and I said, listen, you really got a. I'm sorry I can't take these out of my ears and let you use them, but this is amazing, it's really amazing. And the way I described it to her was with the molds, you have enhanced and improved hearing abilities, but it sounds like you're listening through a wall, kind of. I mean, you're hearing, you're definitely hearing better than before, but it sounds like you're hearing through a wall. When you put the instruments that I have now all that's gone, it's like it's a different feeling.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Yeah, absolutely. And you know, when it comes to like venting and things of that nature, you could have the correct vents on, but you're still going to experience some of that occlusion effect. So you had two sets of custom in the ear hearing instruments now wearing what are called RICs, or receiver in the canal or behind the ear open fitting hearing instrument. As compared to the technology that was to now, I mean how much of a difference.

Moe Jerant:

Is that even a fair question? You know what I mean. It's well, it's huge. It's a huge difference, and when I look at the possibilities, they're even better. Yeah they're even better. And I can go back very briefly and talk about the one session that I came in and I said blaze, this is blah, blah, blah, blah blah. It's not working, what can we do? And we sat there and we recalibrated a whole bunch of stuff and set it up differently. But the point is, if I still would have had the ear molds.

Moe Jerant:

I don't think that would have been possible, and certainly not in an efficient time manner like when we did what we did. I mean, it would have been like oh my gosh. I don't want to say a nightmare, but it would have taken forever.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

And I remember that session, mo, because, first of all, it's very for lack of a better word cool to now be able to, you know, work together and I'm able to help you and serve you throughout your new hearing journey. So, when Mo came in for her annual hearing evaluation, what we did is we reprogrammed her current pair of hearing instruments and we conducted real ear measurement. And very much like when you go into the studio, we're able to essentially equalize through like an EQ shaper, if you will, and I can tell, and we know when Dr Delfino and I conduct real ear measurement, all right, well, we need to increase between 1500 to 2000 Hertz or we need to decrease 750, you know, 500 to 750 Hertz. We're able to do that with like a graphic equalizer, which is real ear measurement and not enough hearing healthcare professionals are conducting real ear measurement, but that's one of the many reasons why you are doing so well Only about 30% of hearing healthcare professionals are conducting real ear measurement.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

We fit you with appropriate technology based off your type and degree of hearing. Healthcare professionals are conducting real ear measurement. We fit you with appropriate technology based off your type and degree of hearing sensitivity and we've programmed the instruments specifically to your lifestyle and, of course, your type and degree of hearing loss. And what's interesting too, mo, coming from you, you are a professional musician, your brain knows what certain pitches sound like and, dr Delfino, you've worked with many musicians over the year and I know that you're a musician as well, so it's always exciting when you meet a patient who plays music or who has a love for music. But what have you noticed with the evolution of technology today, when it comes to even the enjoyment of music, the hearing aids today?

Dr. Gregory Delfino:

they do an amazing job in terms of processing music in and of itself, yeah, truly, musicians are a very unique breed in as much as, prior to any hearing loss, they have developed in their echoic memory where they remember sounds, and so, as time goes on and they start to perhaps lose some of their hearing, there is that disconnect between how I remember the sound and the way it sounds now, and that creates some discordance, if you will, with the musicians. And so now the hope is I want to get back to the way in which it sounded in my mind and so that with today's technology we are much better able to do that, and with real ear, because we are actually looking at the canal resonance of your ear. That's different for every individual. So once I know where that is, we can then fine tune it to where your hearing sounds, the way that you used to. It becomes reminiscent of a time when you enjoyed music in a certain way, and that's what we want to return to you.

Moe Jerant:

Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Mo, how have the hearing instruments positively influenced your interpersonal relationships and the ability to communicate with your bandmates and students and family things of that nature?

Moe Jerant:

Tremendously, tremendously. One of the cues for me and I don't remember if I ever told you this story, dr Delfino, but one of the cues for me to go back to the office and get instruments was I was teaching a class and somebody said something to me and my response had nothing to do with what they said to me and I didn't know it. And after the class somebody said hey, do you know that they said this? And then that was your response and I went what? And so there you go. It's like all right, that's it right.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Those inappropriate responses and you're not alone there, mo. I mean even individuals tuned in right now who do present with a decrease in hearing sensitivity will also share that tipping point was an inappropriate response of I'm not on the same topic.

Moe Jerant:

Right right, that was a little embarrassing. Okay, a lot embarrassing.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

So the instruments have connected you to this new hearing world. Now, being a musician, and you depend on your sense of hearing to do what you love, to do what you're passionate about, to share what you're passionate about, what would you say to fellow musicians who might not get their hearing tested on an annual basis I mean even musicians who do present with hearing loss but aren't ready to take the next step towards better hearing?

Moe Jerant:

I've talked to a couple of them and I am not shy in discussing the fact that I have a hearing loss. I'll take the instruments out of my ears and go check this out. It's this tiny little thing. It fits right in your ear. You don't even know it's there, but I have the conversation. That's kind of a summation of some of the things that we were just talking about you know what happens if, and those kinds of things.

Moe Jerant:

And once I start that conversation with them, generally they kind of like let their guard down and then it actually becomes a conversation and I'll say stuff like well, if you're experiencing that and you get instruments, it's all going to change. It's all going to change. You're going to be able to, like you were saying, dr Delfino, you're going to go back to the way you remember hearing it and it's really going to change in a sense. For me it changed a lot of confidence issues and self-esteem and things like that. Tell us more about that. Well, I'll kind of tell you something about that with like a little bit of a side story that leads into the IEMs.

Moe Jerant:

I, for the longest time, my band was basically set up like all the rest of the bands, which means that when you go on stage, everybody's playing their own instruments, their own amplifiers. Any kind of vocals or singing comes back at you on the stage from a speaker on the floor, back at you on the stage from a speaker on the floor. Well, what was happening to me was my ears and my brain could not navigate those floor monitors successfully and I left gigs. I was so cranky and so miserable, because one of the things that happens and, blaze, I know you know this from performing One of the things that happens is, once you get this connection with your audience going, it involves the PA, and so there's this energy that you're trying to get across to your audience and the translator is the PA.

Moe Jerant:

So if I'm singing and I'm hearing something and I'm not getting that translating factor from the PA, I know there's something wrong. So I you know I'm not hearing stuff the way I would like to Sure. So what I ended up doing was talking to some people and I think you and I ended up getting into a conversation and I went to not using a stage monitor on the floor and I went to having that same information put in my ears Total ballpark changer, just like getting instruments for the first time. The cool thing about that is I worked with you, blaze, on that whole process, yep, and we put a custom idea together between you and I and the guy out at Entertainment Services.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Yes.

Moe Jerant:

We put a custom idea together, which he executed, and so now my equipment is already set up with my EQ totally pre-programmed. So if I go work with somebody that I don't know, I can walk in with this gear and say plug me in and turn me on, and I don't have to rely on anybody to change my EQ.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Which is nice.

Moe Jerant:

Really nice.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Because not everyone processes sound the same way, right, especially audio engineers.

Moe Jerant:

Yes, and there's more technology that our sound company has taken on to the point that I can take my phone, I can open up my phone, has taken on to the point that I can take my phone, I can open up my phone, I can go to the software that his mixer is using and I can do my own mix on my phone.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Yeah, that's personalization in and of itself.

Moe Jerant:

And the last thing that we did with the wireless unit itself was I bought a model that gave me kind of a stereo capability. Okay, so what they did at Entertainment Services was they set it up so that in one channel I get the band and in the other channel I get just my vocal.

Dr. Gregory Delfino:

Nice.

Moe Jerant:

And I have complete control of everything that's going on. And when I first got the in-ear instruments that I had, I kept telling everybody there's something wrong with these earpieces. Every time I hit my bass drum it just crackles and I don't know what it is. I went out there and the guy I worked with at entertainment services, nate I drove him crazy for a day. He went in the bathroom. He's yelling into a microphone. He's like I don't hear this, I don't hear this. What we ended up figuring out was the frequency response on those pieces wasn't wide enough.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

So you were having clipping.

Moe Jerant:

Was it like, yeah, it was horrible.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

It was to the point that I could barely get my kick drum in the mix in my ears without it.

Moe Jerant:

That'll drive you crazy.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Oh my gosh.

Moe Jerant:

So I ended up. You know he sent me some information, I did some research and I upgraded the earbuds and I'm fine now.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

But Mo, I mean sharing your story. You know sharing your story and how important it is because we treat a lot of musicians and you are aggressive in the fact that this is what I have to do for my hearing sensitivity, because your goal right now is I need to preserve the current hearing that I have my residual hearing, Of course, wearing hearing instruments or hearing aids to better communicate when I'm not performing, but you've implemented the use of in-ear monitors for when you do perform, which are much better than stage monitors, because you're not leaving the show with temporary threshold shift, which is also that ringing in your ears when you leave, like a loud bar or a club or a live show. So it's nice to, I'm sure, go home and your ears aren't ringing like they did with the floor monitors.

Moe Jerant:

Oh, you got that right.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Wow, Dr Delfino. We talk about evolution because in today's day and age, things are constantly changing and of course, we are making sure that we are staying up to date with the most advanced hearing technology, but also the most advanced in-ear technology for our musicians. You've worked with copious amounts of musicians over the years. How important are in-ear monitors for musicians?

Dr. Gregory Delfino:

They're really essential. I mean, you care about the instrument that you're playing, the strings that you're using, the drum heads, all of those things, because you want the performance of the instrument to be exactly the way that it should be, to your liking, to your standards. The in-ear monitors not only do they protect the hearing that you have, standards the in-the-ear monitors not only do they protect the hearing that you have, but they bring to light all of those nuances, those musical nuances that you need to hear, that you want to hear, that are essential to your peak performance. They are a huge improvement and I'm so happy to hear that you're using it.

Moe Jerant:

So many more musicians now are getting on board. We went to them in the whole band.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Good.

Moe Jerant:

I got really, really insistent. In fact, we're totally wireless Everything, all the instruments. I'm the only live thing on stage anymore, because I just said, look, let's do it like this. And our sound guy for like three years was like you know, all the pro guys that are touring, when they show up here with these big trucks they don't have big trucks anymore and all those stacks of Marshalls, there's nothing in them. They use processors.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

It's amazing I mean, like right now, being able to record this episode into our software, where the only hardware we have is our Rodecaster, which is awesome, right? So there's so many. The opportunities are endless, Mo, I'm curious to know how have the hearing instruments helped you improve your overall speech understanding in complex listening situations? Oh, tremendously.

Moe Jerant:

Tremendously. It's almost hard to describe because, except to say, maybe, that it's like flipping a switch it's there and it's not there. That was one of the difficulties that I had, even with the ear molds, was that I had this little thing that I would just take my thumb by my ear and spin the wheel and turn the volume up a little bit. Situations of like crowds or restaurants or things like that, where one of the most obvious signs of hearing loss presents itself, which is you hear more of those sounds, more than you hear the people that are in close proximity to you.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

So I mean, that's been a game changer and it's incredible, it's just really incredible, I guess you know, for us, as hearing healthcare professionals, to hear your success story, but to also be a part of it to us is a reminder of why we do what we do. Because we have the opportunity to connect you to this whole new hearing world, and it's a journey. I mean, mo, you've been wearing hearing instruments for over 15 years. The journey and I think this is important coming from you, can you share with our listeners the importance of the understanding, the concept that you know hearing healthcare is the start of a new journey.

Moe Jerant:

Oh my gosh, it is, and I've been, since I've been wearing instruments for 15 years, and this is actually going to talk about some of the things that I do with my drumming.

Moe Jerant:

One of the things that I researched pretty heavily before I started working with seniors was attributes of people that are in assisted living Alzheimer neighborhoods, dementia neighborhoods.

Moe Jerant:

There are a few select, really good books on what to look for when you're working with those people, because it's if you don't think about it, you're going to miss a lot. So one of the things is decreased hearing and then that's going to leave people in a space where, if they don't do anything about it, their sociability is going to like backstep and they're going to be more, they're going to be quiet all the time. So in reading some of that stuff, I integrated that into a lot of the programs that I did and I, specifically when I would, when I'd be working with seniors, I would specifically go around to everybody that was there and say, hello, tell me your name, direct eye to eye contact. If they couldn't hear, I would adapt to them and just do that whole thing. And it makes a difference because I go into that understanding from a personal perspective what that's really like, and so to take that concept and look at that from my own world, it's really necessary to stay on top of that stuff. It really is, because I'm aging.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Us too.

Moe Jerant:

We all are, yeah, and there's things that I'm noticing that I'm aging Us too we all are, yeah, and there's things that I'm noticing that I'm doing, and one of the things you mentioned was how I am without my instruments. People don't like me, you know, because and it's hard to explain to people that I don't want to be wearing these pieces 24 hours a day- Right.

Moe Jerant:

The last time I did, I was in the hospital. I had my knee replaced and I felt like I really needed to do that, you know. But when I'm home it's like okay, time to go to bed, take them out, and then in the morning I forget, I start walking around and the next thing, you know, I'm like what? Huh, or something. Even when I'm wearing my instruments, some people have this tendency to say something to you, turn their head and if you ask them a question they don't turn back to you. They'll talk to the wall.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Yeah, that's not recommended.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

No, that is not recommended, Even with wearing hearing instruments. Mo, I'd like to expand on what you were saying in terms of working at the senior centers and with the residents there. When we talk about untreated hearing loss, there are different comorbidities linked to untreated hearing loss, such as cardiovascular disease, cognitive decline or dementia of the Alzheimer's type, social isolation, depression. Social isolation depression. That's the reason why we host this podcast is to discuss best practices, hearing technology, raising awareness of the importance of visiting a hearing healthcare professional. Mo, how important is it for individuals to get their hearing tested every year, especially for musicians?

Moe Jerant:

You can't stress it enough you can't, you just can't. And the reason that I would say it like that is again from my own experience. I was thinking about this because it was on the list of questions. You get to this space that you get comfortable with your instruments and how everything's working out in your world and how you're relating to people and everything's cool, and you forget that you're still losing things or things are changing and you need somebody to look at them.

Dr. Gregory Delfino:

Yeah.

Moe Jerant:

And so you know, even though you know you get into that space where you're like, I'm good, don't worry about me, everything's fine, and then you come in and have you know, like a hearing checkup and it's like, well, you're okay, but you got to watch, so highly recommended.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

And we see you almost once a quarter. We make sure that we see you at least twice a year for your annual hearing evaluation and then your six-month clean and check just to make sure that the hearing aids are functioning how they should. Mo. Thank you so much for joining us and sharing your story on the Hearing Matters podcast. Are there any last-minute thoughts you'd like to share with our listeners?

Moe Jerant:

Don't doubt yourself. If you think you have a hearing issue, even if it's a little tiny one, please come in and get somebody to look at it or check it out. Have a test, do what's necessary and make the changes in your life so that, if you're younger, you have the capability to learn well, if you're kind of in that middle phase in your life, you have the ability to navigate relationships with people and as you head into older age, you don't backslide into social isolation and have any of those other things happen. Because I can tell you this one of the reasons that my programs with seniors are so successful is because I do that one-to-one with them and I directly connect with every single one of them in the room.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

Absolutely.

Moe Jerant:

And it matters, it's eye contact, it's being there. So if they can't hear, they hear, and it's just that thing.

Blaise M. Delfino, M.S. - HIS:

And if they volunteer, call on them, let them get involved, getting involved yeah, you're tuned into the Hearing Matters podcast with Dr Gregory Delfino, emblazed Delfino of Audiology Services and Fader Plugs. Today we had Mo Durant from the Large Flower Heads join us on the show. She is a professional musician and currently wears hearing aids and has for over 15 years. Ladies and gentlemen, if you are on an iPhone or an Android, head on over to Instagram. Give us a follow Hearing Matters Podcast on Instagram, like us on Facebook and if you listen to us on Apple Podcasts, write a positive review. Thanks again for listening to the Hearing Matters Podcast. Until next time, hear life's story.

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