And The Church Said...

Two White Men and A Black Woman on Knowing, Being Known, and Trusting with Dr. Paul Hoard and Dr. Doug Shirley

October 08, 2023 Episode 139
And The Church Said...
Two White Men and A Black Woman on Knowing, Being Known, and Trusting with Dr. Paul Hoard and Dr. Doug Shirley
Show Notes

Dr.  Paul Hoard and Dr. Doug Shirley join the podcast today.

Both Dr.  Hoard and Dr. Shirley are associate professors of counseling psychology at The Seattle School. Today, they engage conversation with Dr. Gadson on building relationships across differences, discussing collective shame, and identifying perpetrator trauma.

Tune in to part one of this episode as these three reflect on their lived and shared experiences as they have leaned into the processes of developing trust,  knowing, and being known. 

Information for Dr. Paul Hoard:

https://paulhoard.substack.com

Information for Dr. Doug Shirley:

http://www.dougshirleyresearch.com

Information for Dr. Gadson

https://www.drmoniquesmithgadson.com/

Link to order “Finding Hope in A Dark Place”:

https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Hope-Dark-Place-Loneliness/dp/1683596358/ref=rvi_sccl_7/138-1785751-1148333?pd_rd_w=decCb&content-id=amzn1.sym.f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_p=f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_r=GMEBCA5ZB54MM98HHN5F&pd_rd_wg=pwctW&pd_rd_r=0cf054c6-aedd-427d-ac2a-563757407228&pd_rd_i=1683596358&psc=1

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