Copacetic Hour One on One: Lights Cameras & Consistency

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In this episode of The Copacetic Hour, we sit down with multi-talented actor, producer, writer, and director Kenny Pettis for a conversation about what it really takes to build a name in the entertainment industry.

This episode is packed with laughs, insight, and real talk about chasing purpose in entertainment and the mindset required to stay consistent while staying authentic to who you are.

If you’re a creator, filmmaker, or someone chasing a dream, this is an episode you don’t want to miss.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:23

Yes, this is the Copacetic Hour. Copacetic is a term, meaning everything is fine, cool, and in excellent order. This podcast is an area for open discussion, but not for the weak hearted nor the simple-minded. And although we may not always agree, we will always exemplify respect. But at the same time, nobody, and I do mean nobody, is exempt from getting these jokes. Everything is copacetic. Yes, this is the copacetic hour. Now we are back with our first one-on-one with the Copacetic Hour of the Year of 2026 where podcasts, culture, creativity collide. Today's guest is someone who has truly mastered the art of storytelling across multiple platforms. He's an actor, producer, writer, and director with more than 13 projects under his belt spanning film and television. Millions of people around the world know him for his viral sketch content, where his creativity, timing, and perspective have built a massive online audience. We're talking 114,000 Instagram followers, more than 8 million views on YouTube, a TikTok community of over 725,000 with nearly 7 million likes. He's also someone who has spent years interviewing the stars that you see today, building relationships and documenting the culture along the way. Today, we're talking about the journey and the grind behind the viral moments, the film industry, and what it really takes to turn creativity into a career. Ladies and gentlemen, someone who has inspired me and what you see today, Mr. Kenny Pettis Jr. Let's give a round of applause for Mr. Kenny Pettis. Oh yeah, at the moment.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

You wrote that? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I know you did. I know it. I know it. And man, I appreciate you, E. Thank you for having me, man. This is the first one for 2026.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

This is the first one-on-one interview for 2026. Welcome back. Welcome back. I appreciate you. Consistency. Yeah, this is our 201st episode, if you're listening right now. 201st.

SPEAKER_02 2:45

Wow. Big congrats to you on that, bro. That's consistency. That's that's human.

SPEAKER_03 2:50

I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

So jumping right into our why don't you just chill icebreaker? Now for you, and I know you're into because this is your field. So I know you got a special critique of certain movies and TV shows. Absolutely. If you were stuck on an island for the rest of your life and could only watch one movie and one TV show until it's all over, what would you choose?

SPEAKER_02 3:19

Uh Sandlot for the movie. Um The Show. Absolutely. I can watch the Sand Lot any day of the week. Uh and if it wasn't the Sand Lot, it would probably be a Marvel movie. Maybe like um probably Infinity War Endgame. Okay. Um a show. A show. Now we're talking about like all the seasons?

SPEAKER_01 3:46

All the seasons. So what if it's one through twenty, if it's one through five. All every season.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

I'm probably it might and it might be recent season like biased, but like Stranger Things. Like Stranger Things never let me down.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:01

All the season. Like it was it was a great journey. And I w and I would be okay revisiting and going back. This shit is still pretty great.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

Huh. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:14

What what you got?

SPEAKER_01 4:15

For me, for a movie, gotta be Forrest Gump, I'm thinking. I need some positivity around me. I I can't imagine you being on the island by yourself wanting to have stranger things. That sounds crazy to me. Can't do it.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

Most people try to ask this question. I've I've asked that question quite a bit too. Like you have to watch something all the time. And most people always tell me. You know what I mean? And I get that because you it's just i i it it's more lighthearted, brings more positivity to you, etc. And I can see some dope comedies, but like on the regular after a while, yeah. I don't know how much it would hit the same. That's why I'm like, I just need something with different kind of emotional beats. I said that a lot, just because coming of age story, yeah, uh, you know, you got the comedy in it, but you watching you watching somebody you know get to their triumph at some point in time with that whole team.

SPEAKER_03 5:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I that that would probably be the good job.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

So for me or Marvel. I guess you can't go wrong with Marvel, especially in-game, you can't go wrong with that.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

Yeah. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

TV show is gonna have to be something like One Piece or Naruto, just because they got hella episodes. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 5:29

Like True. You would never get bored because you'd be watching them endlessly. I heard Naruto and One Piece is ridiculously long. I haven't gotten that to them like that, but I just know what is it, the the the Magazine? Is that what you just call it? The manga. Mangas is long, you know.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

But I but I respect Yeah, super long.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

And you've seen all of it.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

I've seen everything, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Oh, okay. You own that.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

I'm a fan. I'm I'm a real fan. I'm a fan of anime.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

unknown 6:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Alright, so getting to know our guests. Let us know where you're from and what were your experience growing up, your school, your home life, your neighborhood. How did you become who you are today?

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Uh yeah, originally Detroit, West Side, six-mile auto drive, um, Rosedale Park. Nice, nice middle class kind of situation is what I was born and raised in. Mom and Pop's little sister, uh, nice neighborhood. I mean, you know, everybody kind of knew everybody. Um, people I still talk to today from that neighborhood, you know, are great. Um and it was it was like we were my family growing up, we were the house where everyone wanted to be at. You know what I mean? Like my my like my parents were, you know, you know, if you're coming over to the Pettis house, you're gonna have a good time. It's gonna be some fun, it's gonna be some food, you know, it's gonna be some kind of activities, you know, and everybody's gonna be treated like they were, you know, you know, like they were related to us. So my house was always the house where everybody came to, you know, spend the night, you know, play basketball, play video games, you know, we rented blockbuster. Um, you know, the neighborhood knew, you know, this where you want to be. So it was it was it was a great time. I think about that all the time, which is probably why I love coming of age stories so much, just because of my childhood and you know, the the the the crew that I was hanging around majority of the time for my life hood.

SPEAKER_01 7:35

Traditional 90s black home. Yeah. Everybody bikes in the front yard, you know.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

So you know what I'm saying? Like, good time, the basketball ram in the street, everybody pull up. You might be right about my hooping, let's hope, you know what I mean? Facts. That kind of thing. But we spent most of the day just on one of my homegirls' porch with all of us, just sitting and just talking and chilling. Then walk, then we can walk to the store, you know what I mean? Say walk all the way to Lil' Caesar, grab a slice, walk to the store, then walk to the other homie creative three, four blocks away, you know what I mean? That kind of thing. The whole section of Rosedale was great. Facts. Great time.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

Now, like Detroit is known for like all these different, you know, theatrical schools and everything. Did you where did you go to high school at?

SPEAKER_02 8:23

I went to high school at CMA, communication, uh, and media arts, but it wasn't that kind of school though. Originally we were supposed to merge with an actual performing art school, which was uh DHS, but we never did. Ours ours was more like a college prep kind of school for the most part. Um But it was there that I did a video class, you know, uh and at that point that kind of really started to shift the narrative and and my mindset of what I kind of wanted to do and what I could do when it came to filmmaking. Because at that point, that class, you know, we we were given different tasks, different type of videos to shoot, etc. Um, you know, I did the uh I I I I shoot the uh what is that called? The end of the year seniors video and all that kind of stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:13

And that piecing that together, building that. So that that helped start crafting my journey uh in my and my thought process with film.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

So that was your start. That was my next question. What made you start now? How did you get to where you are? Like, me knowing you personally, I know you've you've done photography, you've done skits, you've done all sorts of things. What made you decide like this is my lane?

SPEAKER_02 9:38

So originally I was gonna go to school for politics. Originally I wanted to get into politics. I had this dream I wanted to be the first black president, that was my thing. Teacher in high school told me that would never happen. I was a fool. I was a nigga. And I was like, okay, that makes okay. I'm like, that doesn't make sense, but uh okay, uh, let me just see. And I went to Western Michigan and I I took a uh what was it, a political science class. And once I got into the political science, I realized like, yeah, this shit ain't this ain't for me. This ain't the I'm not doing this. This ain't the vibe. You know what? I don't really that teacher back then, but he might have been on to something. Uh-huh. Plus it was a lot of math. I don't really I don't really rock with math. So that star that shifted my gears into communication and film.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

Like like completely. And I, you know, got it going is when we when I joined, you know, Five of the Signals. Shout out to the bros. And we started doing Go Mob. Uh before the step shows, we started putting together little mini, little mini movies. I was like, bro, if we just add so much production value to our shows, if we shoot something beforehand, everybody not doing that. Everybody not shooting little mini skits or mini movies beforehand. And we with me and my and Brandon, and really all of us, all of us have creative minds, but like me and Brandon being the the film guys, we're like, we just know how to really make that jump. So that really is what got it that got it started. And then myself and and and other frat Brandon Morrison and our homie Dan, we entered a 24 hour film festival out in Kalamazoo and we like like just like destroyed it. You know, Brothers was in it too, it helped out, you know, it was great. But we you know, we we just took home, you know, all the awards, like we swept, you know what I mean, and then we did it again the next year. And from that I was like, Yeah, it's uh this is what we're supposed to be doing. This is what I'm supposed to be doing. And I just knew at some point Kalamazoo wasn't going to be able to contain my you my my creative genius in my mind. And I just always knew like LA is where you're supposed to go. It's where you're supposed to be, but it's time for anything filmmaking. I know it's different now, but at that point in time, 2000 eleven, all I knew is I gotta go to LA.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

Now, um, when you got to LA, tell me what that was like. What was it like, you know, kid from Detroit living in Kalamazoo, which is even smaller than Detroit, going to huge LA?

SPEAKER_02 12:20

Bro, oh, it was it was it was kind of scary too, bro, because I just remember I just knew I was gonna go there. And I remember looking on Craigslist and I found a room for rent. Uh, you know, first of all, you know, when you're in Detroit and you don't know anything about LA, you only go based off of what you see in the movies. And what you see in the movies is it's scary in LA. Right. Blood Crips. You know what I'm saying? You don't know where to go. So in my mind, I'm like, I just know I should be close to Hollywood. That seems the safest. So I found like a room for rent, talked to the dude, and um, I'm like, man, I really want to move there and I would love to stay there. He said, if you're serious, I'll hold the room for you. Shout out to Antonio, I don't know where he is now, but he held that room for me for like four months.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

Like, kept that room I didn't know when I was coming. And um, I don't know if you remember this or not, but uh it was like around New Year's New Year's 2011, something like that. Like I got like jumped at the bro at the at the at the brother's house. Don't even remember what happened.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

Yeah, it was some random people. I remember that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

Random people, bro. I don't I like I just remember waking up in the hospital, like, what happened? Lumped up too. And it was at that time I was like, it's definitely time for me to get the fuck out of Elamazoo and get off. So I hit Antonio, I said, bro, I I would have been coming sooner. I got into a little accident, place messed up. As soon as I heal up, I'm coming out there. Went home, told my pops, said, Look, man, I'm going to leave for LA in a week. I'm not really telling people like that. I just I'm just gonna go. And uh, because this is what I want to do. I want to direct, you know, I want to I want to get out there and I want to try it out. And um, natural parents, they don't really understand the you know, being an artist like that, it doesn't it doesn't register for them. But luckily he was like, hey, I get it, that's what you want to do, you know, brought me up with some with some money, said do your thing. And bro, landing in LA. First of all, that was my first time flying, so that was already kind of like, ah, it's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_03 14:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:35

I'm like, ah, an airplane. Ah, flying. What do I do? I'm I'm really high up. Uh uh. And then I'm up because winter time in Detroit, so you know, wintertime, I got my, you know what I mean? I think it was like a first down big big coat.

SPEAKER_03 14:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

Gloves, everything. Get off the plane, it's like a whole new world, bro. The sun is shining. You know, the sun will be shining in Detroit like that. It'd be like Gotham City sometime. It was like raised oriness when I walked off the plane and and out of the airport. And it was so warm, I'm like, I don't need this coat anymore. I left, I took my coat off and stuff, left it at the airport, took my gloves and my hat there. Antonio, who became my roommate at the time, he was waiting for me. I don't know anybody. I didn't know anybody in LA besides my besides my ex. I will say that, besides my ex. But Antonio scooped me, took me to the crib. We just riding around, just seeing, you know, different landscapes, different, just just it's just different. Palm trees. Palm trees. I don't know what that is. Really? Right. You know what I mean? The movies. You know, and the first time I went into Hollywood at night and just walking Hollywood Boulevard and just looking around was it was like surreal. You know what I mean? It would be for anybody. That's why so many tourists come and you just watching looking at these stars, like just the amount of you know, greatness that has been through here, and just you know, you've heard so much about it, you've seen it, and to just be in this area and know like this is where I'm getting ready to live now to pursue what I'm trying to pursue was like crazy.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Now, was the initial getting there the hardest part for you, or what was the hardest part since you've been in LA?

SPEAKER_02 16:20

It's always a struggle. Okay. It's always a struggle. But being here solo and then not having any any um any connections, you know, uh the the big thing is just trying to build, trying to build and trying to network and show people your worth. Because people out here, I mean, really care about what you can do for them or like who you are, you know, before back then it was no social media like that.

SPEAKER_03 16:49

Right.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

Instagram was fresh. So you you had to you had to really pitch yourself and pitch what you are able to do and and and try to find different groups to be a part of so you can help further, you know, what you're trying to do.

SPEAKER_03 17:05

Right.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

And um, and I and I and I landed in a couple uh a couple of okay situations. Craigslist, I met some group, and you know, I ended up getting some producer credits with this with this team, with this small team, because they were shooting content for individuals, like little mini-series, and I was helping with that. So that that helped me start to strengthen my muscle a little bit. Uh one of my roommates um had a a producer homie whose hair he used to cut, and he kind of took me under his wing a little bit and taught me what producing was like and gave me an opportunity to PA on the projects that they were working at and and helped me understand various things on how certain things work when it came to producing and what that was like, and gave me some of my first credits, you know, for being a part of certain things, and and from there I was like, okay, I can produce. I've been doing that since, you know, high school, college with everything that we've done. That's producing, it's just the business end of everything, and and bringing the right people together to make the right type of project, to make it right, you know. Um, but you know, that's always still a journey. It's always still trying to find, you know, your your your people and your network and and and still continuing to prove that you can do what you set out to do.

SPEAKER_03 18:23

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

Like you feel that way with your what you with everything you have going and what what you got?

SPEAKER_01 18:27

So with me, especially now, because I'm doing podcasting full time now, it's like now it's time to like get my my social media up and I'm starting to get my YouTube going now and putting out these putting out these videos on my YouTube and making sure I'm doing the the three posts a day and everything.

SPEAKER_02 18:47

Content is key. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

So I feel like that. I feel like I've been I'm like a I have a I'm a hidden gem. You know what I'm saying? I'm definitely a diamond in the dirt because no one sees my not enough people are seeing my content in my eyes, but I've done um I've done consulting with Google and different different platforms and created shows for companies and stuff, and I've gotten paid for like I've made 30,000 off podcasting since 2020. You know what I'm saying? Crazy. And I've it's been part-time, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Yeah. And now you're going full steam into it, since you know, which is a which is the move I see.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

So yeah, this is my I love to do it. Like it's this is therapeutic for me, podcasting. Yeah. This is therapeutic. Yeah, yeah. Hearing people's stories, cracking jokes, getting it online, getting people's reaction. I ain't even gonna lie to you. I saved a couple of people's lives, you know what I'm saying? People want to get suicide, they write me like, man, your show just helps me so much. And I was like, Yeah, don't put that, don't put all that on me. I don't wanna be I don't wanna be responsible for all that. I appreciate it, but uh yeah. You know what I'm saying? And a couple people, I probably messed up their life, not gonna lie. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 20:06

Never know who you who you who you're reaching, who and who you're touching at certain points in time. Facts for sure. Facts.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Now, what are the amazing parts? What what's what's keeping you going? What's keeping that drive in you?

SPEAKER_02 20:22

Um knowing one thing, knowing that I'm on the right path, and that at the end at the end of this, I I know I'm going to achieve what I've set out to achieve. And I already have been, you know what I mean? It's just I gotta just keep climbing. But I think one of my one thing I just love about this journey is you just never know who you're going to connect with. You never know who will become your peers. You know, some people that I used to idolize growing up, you know, or become like homies and brothers to me. Like if younger me would never expect, you know, being like a super Power Ranger fan that I'd be super cool with Power Rangers, you know what I mean? Or, you know, Yaya is my homie from the sandlot. And I tell him all the time, like, bro, I thank you. You know what I mean? It's little stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

Who is Yaya from the sandlot?

SPEAKER_02 21:19

Yaya is uh, you never seen the sand lot.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

I have seen the sand lot, but knowing they real name. You remember which one Yaya? No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

Yaya in the fast talking. He was fast talking, dude. If you remember the if you remember the moment where um where they were trying to get the ball back at one point and they and they tried to lower him down to the city.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Okay, okay, the small one. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

Quick talking. He's big now though. That's so crazy. He like juiced up now. But um, but just just just just moments like that. You just never know who you're gonna be able to connect with and and and and be involved with or work with. Like that thought process. Just keeps me going because I it I'm I'm excited for it because anything can happen. You know what I mean? Anything. I can end up shooting a skit with somebody so crazy I never would have imagined. And uh and now I'm directing this person and stuff like that. Keeps my fuel going in the in this craft.

SPEAKER_01 22:17

So I've seen that you've um done some interviews, done some uh with like you did Lilo and Stitch, like you've done like some So it was cool too. Like that is insane when you think about stuff like that. Like that is like a cult classic that they brought back and you were a part of it.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. That was that was a great that was my first press junket.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

Okay, really.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

Um versus big one. I've done one before. Like a press junket is when you're in the room, it's like when the uh show or movie has a media day and they invite all the different outlets to come and the the the the cast just doing interviews with people all day long. You know what I mean? Face to face.

SPEAKER_03 23:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

Or I've done some like with different with different um shows and things like that. I've done them online because some of them might be in Atlanta or New York.

SPEAKER_03 23:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

So I can only chime in online. Once they're in LA, uh pray that I'm able to go and do, you know, in-person press day, press junkie. That one was like, I'm like, woo, this is Disney. Ooh! Yeah. First one like, okay, and I get nervous going into them. Yeah. I get, you know, I think even red carpets, I still get nervous because I'm not I don't really consider myself like a like a like an interview correspondent, you know, I mean, like a journalist.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

I'm just good at communicating with people and asking certain questions as a filmmaker that I want to know.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

So if I'm like, if I want to know, I hope the rest of the masses would as well. And that kind of what gets me through.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

I feel that. Now you can do that. Would you do that? I would. I would definitely interview people.

SPEAKER_02 24:00

Who will be your dream interview? Give me, give me a remote.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

If I had a dr I've said this on the podcast before, if I had a dream interview, it would be Jason Weaver. I just like, I just like Jason Weaver.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

That's that's solid. I that's a that's a that's a great thing. Oh, he's like he's really a legend.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

Yeah, Jason Weaver is a legend. You know what I'm saying? Like Jason Weaver, Jamie Foxx. Those are my two, like, if I could sit down and talk with them, that'd be a dream come true. Those are my two Jamie's literally the GOAT. You know what I'm saying? He does everything.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

I agree with you on that. And I think um I feel like he almost doesn't get the recognition that he deserves, because he deserves way more of it. But what I will say about I've met Jamie and hung around Jamie quite a few times, and he is one of the most down-to-earth celebrities. Like you can you'll be in his house and he'll treat everyone like they're a friend coming to the cookout. Like everyone, you know consistently, consistently cool all the time, consistently on. You know what I mean? Like it's not even it's not even him acting, it's just like that's just him. He's always with the joke to you, or get to sing or something. He'll get the you know what I mean? Yeah, great. He's great.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

That would yeah, that would be those two people would be like Jason Weaver played uh his character in the drumline, his name was Ernest, which is my government name, which my name is Five on here, you know what I'm saying? But my government name, you know what I'm saying? With I just always had like admiration, smart guy, Jackson Five, the shy. He's done a couple like indie films, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just I just anything he's in, I I'm all I'm all ears, I'm all eyes, I'm just paying attention to it.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Yeah, yeah. What about female?

SPEAKER_01 25:57

Female? Hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you ain't thought about that. I haven't because I'm I'm a married man, so I don't be trying to put myself in these situations anymore.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

Nobody that's that's a good that's a good response for you. There has to be somebody you would love to sit down with and power out.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

Female. What do you think?

SPEAKER_03 26:22

Actress, singer, wow.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

I'm thinking, nobody Coco Jones. I saw it. I just like her, I like her personality. She seems very down-to-earth and cool, you know what I'm saying? And uh Angel Lakita Moore. She's a comedian. She works with uh Kev on stage a lot. Uh okay. I'm just I I like I like their personalities.

SPEAKER_03 26:52

Yeah. Hey, good picks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

That's what I would. Those would be, if you got any contacts, any of those four, set me up. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Throw me the I'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_02 27:07

Jason, I haven't met before. Uh Coco and Jamie, I have for sure.

unknown 27:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

I would love to. So you gotta that's why you gotta be out here, man. You know, none of y'all ever been out here before. That's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

I've thought about it. I've I've had a conversation with the missus, like, what do you think about me going to California for a year? Yeah. I've I've had that. It's very recently, too. Like, what do you think? I'm doing the show full time. What do you think about me just take it on a road? Yeah, taking it on the road, going to California for a year. So that that might be on the horizon for the Copacetic hour.

SPEAKER_03 27:47

That might be That would be that would be dope, bro. That might be easy.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

Yeah. Just gotta get the logistics together, but yeah, I would I would love to give it a true shot, you know?

SPEAKER_02 27:59

You wouldn't want to go back. I'll tell you that, right. You would you wouldn't want to you'll get out here for a little bit and be like, yeah, I'm not trying to go. I can't do it again. I gotta, yeah, we gotta figure this out, man. You gotta come out here. Matter of fact, I'm gonna stay. Bring just bring all your shit out.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

Just bring us what set it up for us. I got it. Yeah. I mean, I g I mean, I know y'all out there. I got a couple people I went to Alabama State with who are out there, you know what I'm saying? Like, I know people out there.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Yeah, we out here. Me, Brandon out here, Johnny out here, Malcolm. Yeah, we all, you know what I mean? There's people out here, and it's more than that. It's more actually more people that I be forgetting are out here sometimes, too.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

Um, now future goals. If you can set it up to where you want to be, is it if it's an Oscar, if it's a Academy Award, what is your your dream, and then what are your future goals and what are you doing to get there?

SPEAKER_02 28:59

Um dream, I I I really just want to create content, TV and film, that makes people feel something, you know what I mean? I love to be able to go watch something and walk away with a sensation of like, oh my god, like how like how Sinners has done for people. I watched um the show Welcome to Dairy, which is a horror show, and by the end of it, there's certain things that happen. I was like, this is just brilliant, just brilliant moments. Uh I'm really big on that. And it's and of course the Oscar and different um awards naturally are the dream because of the recognition. Right. It it it it it lets you know it's the it's the affirmation that your scene what you produced and put out um is uh quote unquote good to the masses.

SPEAKER_03 30:00

Right.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

You know what I mean? And and you know, even just being nominated for my personal just being nominated just changes things, you know what I mean? Facts, nominal. Give me not if you know, SAG with nominated, Academy Award nominated, just even just the nominations, you know, just for me, just add value. Um, but also, you know, I appreciate right now when I meet, sometimes I get random people to come up and be like, bro, uh hey man, I like like your skits, bro. I like what you be doing. Like stuff like that really matters to me, you know what I mean? Because it just shows a show that no matter what scale that I'm on, there's always someone watching and there's always someone who, you know, who likes what you do. And for achieving those goals, it's just being consistent. You're extremely consistent right now with this podcast, which is which is brilliant. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. And I have to be I have to continue to be consistent when it comes to producing projects on on any level. You know, you know, me and Brandon just got done shooting another film at uh at the end of last year that comes out this year. Okay. And it's about rolling over into the next because if we continue to keep strengthening our muscle and and keep going, then we're going to, you know, I'm I'm going to get to where I've been trying to head all of these years.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

I feel that, especially like uh like in this show, right? I've been I've listened to I'm in 75 countries, right? The show. Yeah, downloads from everywhere. Like I don't know anybody in Singapore or Hong Kong or No. You know, I got consistent listeners in Ukraine, they're going through a war right now. Like it's just crazy, like what your hands can touch. You know what I'm saying? Like, you just never know.

SPEAKER_02 31:55

And you never don't even you know, never know, and it doesn't sometimes even cross your mind the kind of impact, like you said, bro, you talk people out of, you know, off the ledge, basically. Yeah. You would have known you know I mean you know, there's there's there's people's music and certain projects that people create that that that keeps people so grounded that keeps them from you know making bad decisions. You just never know. You just never know. Or you also inspire others that you sometimes don't even even you know even realize. You starting to show people they're like, well, I want to do that. I like that so much, I'm gonna do that. And hopefully somebody might surpass or get to a certain level, they'd be like, and they might reach back. I'm always big on that, reaching back.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

Yeah, that would be my dream, like even though I'm kinda doing it now, you know what I'm saying? But I'm like in my grind mode, but like my dream is to like to take this because I got ideas like I got a short story that I've written that is um that I'm doing an audio movie on. That's my next that's my next project that I'm working on. There's uh there's this film that they called uh Brown Brownstone. It's like an audio movie they've done for a podcast. I listened to it and I was like, I can do that. You know what I'm saying? And I got a short story that I've written. And I got another idea for a short story with with original music I've I'm working on right now. You know what I'm saying? Like this guy's. But you doing the music. I'm not doing the music. These people that I know that do music.

SPEAKER_03 33:31

You doing music too?

SPEAKER_01 33:32

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it's people that I know that do music, and it's a contrast between like the light and the dark. It's uh I got some I got two really, really good ideas. Somebody even approached me to buy the idea uh last year. I was like, uh, it's my baby. I can't, I can't sell my first baby. You know what I'm saying? I can't.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to see where it goes. If you feel that passionate about it too, that's that's always kind of like the right sign, too, because unless you know, like I just, you know, this could this could I could be on to something with this.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

You know what I'm saying? So those are for me, those are my my dreams, my goals. Maybe make it into a movie, maybe who knows what what happens. You know what I'm saying? I'm all for it, whatever. But to just be able to live off to be able to just live off my personality is is the dream.

SPEAKER_03 34:28

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

You can do it. You already doing it now. That's the dream. You're already killing it.

SPEAKER_03 34:33

That's the dream.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

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SPEAKER_02 35:48

So keep in mind, I got a lot of great experiences.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

I bet. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

I bet I really feel because if we went back to college, I it's all it's it's moments.

SPEAKER_01 36:00

I've got some great experiences because of you, actually.

SPEAKER_02 36:03

Yeah, that's what I like. I just it it's crazy. Yes. Um stuff, you know what I'm saying? Like chicks, all kind of stuff. But I think the one that is probably there really was like an eye-opening made me feel something, uh experience was being at the premiere of my movie Suckers.

SPEAKER_03 36:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

And just because sitting and being able to watch something that I wrote started in and co-directed with Brandon in a theater and other people reacting to it.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

Set it up. How did Suckers come about? How what what was it like? Lead me up to this point.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

So I you know, we had we had just shot me and Brandon had just shot a a another movie um not too long before, and it's like, okay, it's your turn, get your turn, KP, you write, you write something. I'm like, that. I knew I had a homegirl in mind that I wanted to write something for, and it was my homegirl Luna Star. If you don't know Luna Star, I don't know what to tell you, you know, but she's one of the biggest ad adult film stars all time.

SPEAKER_03 37:27

Thanks.

SPEAKER_02 37:27

She's great without Luna, she's phenomenal. So I'm like, okay, I wanna do I wanna dabble into a comedy, but I want to double dabble into horror too. So you know what? Let's make it a horror comedy. So I remember pitching the idea to her about suckers and pitching the idea to Brandon, and they were down, they loved it, you know, so it was on me to write it. And that was the first time, that's why this is why it all this kind of matters to me, because that was the first time I wrote a feature. I've written shorts, I've written skits, you know, I write, you know, you know, smaller projects, but to sit and write a full 90 pages of material was the first time that I get that.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

Which is hard. Jeez.

SPEAKER_02 38:17

Which is tough, bro. Which is tough, which it's kind of crazy. Um and that's with no chat GPT, no assistance. This is just all you know, tone dog to dawn creativity. So writing that and producing it, you know, picking, you know, I'm writing for specific people and being able to get those specific people in the film, you know, we we started producing everything just kind of started aligning with that with that project. You know, the homie let me utilize his location as one location. We partnered with somebody that we know and we were able to utilize that location. Um, I had a lot of extra hands to come in and help, you know. Just and this is where it just kind of kinda kind of goes back to what I was talking about with building your network. You know, I had a nice network built where I was able to go, hey Jay, do you mind helping shoot? Hey Dion, you know, our RIP who passed recently, you know, he let us use all his equipment. So things are aligned. Dion, you mind if we you shoot this and hell? Down. I got Matt, same thing. Can you DP cinematography? Absolutely. Um Prop, do you mind just putting your name on it because you got the name? You're the big, you know, you're the big time West Coast rapper, people to pay attention to it more with that. Um and getting to the set and watching, you know, PAs and watching everyone start to construct what I have written, watching them piece this puzzle together, right, and also while trying to get into my character and help people with their characters, and me and Brandon figuring out how we're gonna shoot this, etc. And we only and we had limited time. We only had seven days to get it done. And we could only shoot it at night because it's uh it's a horror joint takes place at night. So, you know, we only starting at we're pulling up at 6, we might start shooting about 8.30. And um, and we and we and we trying to get out there, you know, by one or two ish, not trying to keep everybody too long. So that's tough. We on some tired parents and we shooting quick. Yeah, we we shoot them quick, but that that but that's also our thing. You know, uh you everybody doesn't shoot as quick and as efficient as we do. Um so doing that, watching how everything's coming together, um, and you know, people are we're nervous. Everybody's nervous that first day, bro, because you don't know what you're gonna get. It's our all our first time. Know everybody. We didn't we didn't have rehearsals, we didn't we know we didn't have uh we didn't have a um uh you know uh script breakdown where everybody can come and and and do a table read. We didn't do any of that. So now we're kind of pulling up day one, like, hey, nice to meet you, hey, nice to meet you. Okay, so how does this go? And of course you're getting the nerves in, you're getting the nerves out, but it was just it was it was a great moment. I think one of our first things we shot was like this party scene. You know, where everybody's kind of dancing to the song is playing, like, let's turn up. When we played that back for everybody to see, everybody loosened up after that because you can see now, like, oh shit, that should look good.

SPEAKER_03 41:35

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

Oh, okay, yeah. And when then, you know, when you shoot it a couple more scenes and you show a playback, and people say, like, oh, oh, I look good at that. Yeah, I told you it was gonna look fucking good. I know you was gonna look good. That's why I picked, yeah. So you start to see people's confidence start to build. And sitting there and shooting that and watching everybody's confidence begin to build and get better and better, and what we're doing, you know, getting these certain shots, lighting stuff get better and better, was you know, was a great experience. But beyond that, taking that, editing it, we gotta we had some mishaps with some of the music, because you know, I had a guy, you know, my homie's big at at at scoring, but it was kind of his first time scoring horror. So what he sent back first time was like almost like some 80s throwback, and I'm a huge fan of 80s movies, but it was like some 80s futuristic vibe, it just didn't fit. It didn't fit.

SPEAKER_03 42:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 42:36

And we were best for time too, so this is where you start to kind of get you start to to panic a little bit because it's like, bro, we gotta just edit because we also have to have this submit to our distribution at two, so it can come out when we want it to come out, which is around Halloween time.

SPEAKER_03 42:54

Right.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

So we're panicking. Like uh you you know, the the film schedule we were shooting wasn't super chaotic. Uh, we had to cut some few things, yeah. You know, we had to cut some pages because of timing, but it didn't necessarily throw off the story. The big thing is in posts, and and in posts we were having issues with the music. And I ended up finding uh a young lady in Texas, shout out Jeanette, who really brought it together. And we fused what she did and what my homie Mark did, and it and that worked. That was like the missing piece. It really added on to what we were trying to, you know, what we were what I was trying to create. And then this was like the first time I was actually doing a career for something I've done personally. Right. You know what I mean? Like we didn't really have, we had like a small screening for um lovers and friends, which was a comedy that may be. They had like a little small screening, but this was something more of a larger scale. We rented a theater, yeah, you know, refreshments, things that magnetic. Tool and you get and you you're nervous.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:01

Because you don't know how people are going to take what you create and how they're going to feel about it. Especially even that the the people in it, the people who shine it, because they haven't seen anything.

SPEAKER_03 44:10

Right.

SPEAKER_02 44:10

You don't know what you're going to get. But to to sit there and, you know, I'm nervous. I got my everybody around me. I'm just like, I just hope certain jokes win. I just hope people, you know, react well to it. And when I tell you E, you know, just out the gate, you know, the the the the reactions, the laughing, um, the the the moments that stuck that I wanted to stick, it was one of the best the one of the best feelings ever because it lets me know that all the work that we put in leading to this point made sense. Of course I would have done it. Of course there's always things I could do differently, things I wish I could have done differently, wish there was a budget budget.

SPEAKER_03 44:52

Right.

SPEAKER_02 44:53

But for what we had to work with and what we did, and for me to get to that seat and watch it on the big screen with everyone else, a bunch of strangers and people who work on it, and people coming up after, and like, bro, I I fuck with that. Yo, K fee, that was that was dope. Yeah, I like that, bro. Yeah, yeah. That for me is like, okay. It took me back to when we did the 48 hour film festival in K zoo.

SPEAKER_03 45:23

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 45:23

It was that feeling again, you know what I mean? It was, you know, the the the verification, like I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm on that right path. And I want that more and more and more just on a more and more grander scale. Because I can only imagine like just imagine like how often people come up to Ryan Cooper, like, I really fuck with Sinners, bro. I really like Sinners is crazy. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 45:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:47

Just imagine. You didn't even like Sinners, which is so crazy. Um did you?

SPEAKER_01 45:52

What did I like Sinners? Yeah, I like Sinners. Yeah, Sinners was good. I like Sinners. Is it the best movie ever? Is it the best movie ever? Of the year. Of the year. I think it should be the best movie of the year. Should it it should win all the awards? And obviously it's probably not gonna win all the awards, because you know.

SPEAKER_03 46:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But uh For sure.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

There's certain things where this it should there shouldn't be a question about it winning, you know what I'm saying? Even though they'll it'll make it like that. But movie almost came out a year ago, and there it's still in like the conversation today. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 46:29

Absolutely. I said that in the video that I made. So so imagine that feeling for Ryan where you put together some piece of art that came out a year ago and is still so heavy and prevalent in conversation and in the culture today, where like people are back and forth about it, it's so talked about and you and now you're flourishing. That's m you know, my thought process and how I want to be able to continue on with what I do. You know, even if uh by some reason I don't get to the top of that mountain, but still just being able to put things out where I always feel that that it's it's it what I've done touches.

SPEAKER_01 47:11

That's what's up. Alright. Last two questions. Give them to me. If you could see one person or get one person on the podcast, who would that be? Other than uh Brandon Morrison, because I'm interviewing Brandon tomorrow. But other than Brandon Morrison, if you could get uh one person on the show, who would it be?

SPEAKER_02 47:34

Aaron Coney. Um he is he went to Western.

SPEAKER_03 47:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:40

Um good friend of mine. Um he he he is a talent manager. He started the clothing brand Hustle Matters, which is uh for sure a you know it it matters tremendously. Um he manages talent as far as you know all the Comic Cons and beyond. He might you know, from Power Rangers to RJ Kyler, if you know who RJ is, who you know, who has a movie to roll out, and he's on the birds right now with Kiki Palmer and um yes, one spoonful of chocolate getting ready to come out here shortly. Uh you know, he he he helps out Big Sean with a lot of his things on management because they grew up together. He's you know, and he also just released uh a comic book series that's doing really well, and I think if there was anybody just right off the back of my head to think about, it would be it would be him.

SPEAKER_01 48:32

Alright, so you heard it first. When this comes out, we want you on the show. Uh let me know. I've talked to him a couple times, but I I just I'm not a I'm not a uh I don't know. I just have a problem with asking people stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like, especially people I don't know for sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 48:51

Have to do it, bro. You have to do it. Because one thing I will say about like having a podcast, like everyone wants to come and express themselves and be recognized. Like a lot of people wish you would ask them. Like it doesn't hurt two ass. And there's another brother from Western, if you you know, uh Eric Woodard, I haven't talked to him in years. I just found out that he does like all the stuff for the Lions. Like that kind of, you know what I mean? Like that's that's kind of major. I mean, you know what I'm saying? That would be somebody good. Even the homie that's sitting here, problem. Jason Martin's a fucking West Coast sensation rapper. Like, it's there's there's people.

SPEAKER_03 49:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:30

There's people. Run it up.

SPEAKER_01 49:32

I am. I'm about to I'm about to take your advice. I'm about to just start hitting people's DMs like, hey, I'm a upcoming podcaster. I got this many listens. I would love to have you on for an hour if I can get an hour of your time.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

And they sh and they would love to, majority of them. For sure. Because we do the I'm I'm the one who gets all the talent for the podcast when we were doing it, and I'm in DMs, and people will be responding where I'm like, damn, I can't believe you said yeah. All right, let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

Facts. Yeah, I'm about to do that. I'm about to do that. Alright. Last question. Uh, if you could give one piece of advice for someone looking to pursue what you're doing currently, what would it be?

SPEAKER_02 50:13

What would it be? Uh I I thought I got a couple of y'all.

SPEAKER_01 50:18

So let 'em have it. You can never you can never have too much wisdom.

SPEAKER_02 50:22

Never. That's true. That's true. You know, but I think one of the main ones for me, because sometimes I think this would would would would be an issue for me, don't let others deter you from your path and your journey.

SPEAKER_01 50:40

You are watching a master at work.

SPEAKER_02 50:42

That was good. Yeah, because sometimes you ask certain people, or people want to give their opinion on something that you have going, and they're not equipped to do so. And they don't know. And you know, sometimes they don't mean it, but they might have ill will behind what they're trying to say, and it might, it depending on who you are, the kind of person you are, it can affect you and it can deter you from doing what you're trying to do. For example, like with me, when I want when I told my computer teacher I want to be the president.

SPEAKER_03 51:06

Right.

SPEAKER_02 51:06

That's just still sticks with me to this day. Great callback. You're lucky I ain't seen it.

SPEAKER_01 51:10

Right. Great callback, yes.

SPEAKER_02 51:12

But that took me off my rocker from even wanting to continue to pursue. And then there's something still with like filmmaking. Somebody would be like, man, that's not funny, bro. Don't do that idea. Like, I'm gonna still do it.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

And I've come to find out though, you never know what people are gonna like. The thing you think is like the most amazing thing, people don't even like it. And the thing you might be like, ah, I shouldn't put this out. They love it.

SPEAKER_02 51:39

We're in the day and age right now where it's like just go crazy and putting stuff out and and see what sticks, bro. And like, people gotta tell me, bro, KP, do this, do this, do this. And I'm like, ah, like right now, I'm trying to get into streaming. And I'm like, ah, I don't want to be careful about streaming, but you know what? I'm like, all right.

SPEAKER_03 51:55

Right.

SPEAKER_02 51:55

Why not? Let me figure it out. Because sometimes you just, you know, you gotta hop on certain waves if it makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 52:01

Right.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

Um that's my big thing, though, bro. Don't let don't let everybody deter you from what you're trying to achieve, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 52:09

Max, I love it. I love it. Wanna thank you for being on the Cobacetic Hour. Um, giving your hit up, let them know where they can find you. Anything you want to promote, let them know.

SPEAKER_02 52:19

Yo, yeah, um all platforms, is the cinematic KP, from YouTube to 5G, TikTok, those are my main ones that I'm heavy on. Um be on the lookout. I have a new movie coming out here in a couple months uh called Play Cousins, um, written by my guy Brandon Morrison, which I'm sure he's gonna talk about, that I acted in. Um, and then my homie Jason Martin, aka Proud was acted in. Uh, and then, yeah, we're gonna get back to our podcast as well, movies and models here soon. But all those episodes are on YouTube. If you want to search those, yeah, and just keep staying tuned.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

That's what's up, that's what's up, that's what's up. And I am your host, five. You can catch me at notorious underscore b-i-g underscore e on Instagram or hit up the podcast, Instagram at the Cobacetic Hour, Podcast TikTok, Cobacetic R, Podcast YouTube, Cobacetic R season one will be out this year, I promise you. Um, and I uh keep buying your merch at www.thecopacetic hour.com. We just have somebody buy like 20 sweatshirts, so I appreciate you. Um and that's great. Yeah, super crazy. And as always, please walk by faith, protect your peace, secure your wealth, and define your destiny. This is the Copacetic Hour, people. Peace.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

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