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We’re BACK with our first sports episode of 2026 and we came in swinging!

We kick things off with the NCAA Tournament, breaking down Michigan’s championship run and what The NIL era really means in today’s college landscape.

From there, we jumped into the NBA: the controversial 65-game rule, who it benefits, who it snubs, and our early predictions for who’s taking the chip this year.

We also tap into the Jaden Ivey situation and give our unfiltered takes on what’s really going on.

And because this is TCH… we had to get messy! What’s the CRAZIEST thing someone’s ever done at your house when they spent the night? 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:23

Yes, this is the Copacetic Hour. Copacetic is a term meaning everything is fine, cool, and in excellent order. This podcast is an area for open discussion, but not for the weak-hearted nor the simple-minded. And although we may not always agree, we will always exemplify respect. But at the same time, nobody, and I do mean nobody, is exempt from getting these jokes. Everything is copacetic. Yes, it's a copacetic hour. We're back with another sports episode. How's everybody doing today?

SPEAKER_00 0:56

What up, dog?

SPEAKER_03 0:59

What's up, dog? What's up, pretty girl? Hey mama. That's what's up, that's what's up, that's what's up. Alright, so let's jump right into it. We got a few topics we're trying to get through. Um today's Why Don't You Chill Icebreaker is what are two athletes' career that you wish could have a redo?

SPEAKER_01 1:30

What's good, world? It's DQ. Um back, man. I've been I've been waiting to uh toss some shit with y'all boys, man. But um two athletes' career that I redo. I think the first one for me that come to mind is Brandon Roy. I think he was a he was a killer. He was a killer for sure, but he uh he had a bunch of injuries that kind of um put a stop to his career. And I was thinking, um I think my other one is not not injury based though. My other one would be Megatron. He got cursed with them weak ass lions, man. I feel like if he would have he would have been an eagle or something, man, he would have he would have done 12-13 years, man. I think the lion, I think the lions did them dirty, man.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

Eagles weren't shitty at that time either, nigga. Don't act like the Eagles just been the perennial power or something, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

Yeah, yeah. I mean I'll be Bojar. We'll get there. We'll get there.

SPEAKER_03 2:29

All right. Hey. My name Brandon, big B40, you know. Um, if I had to pick two, he was my favorite growing up, Penny with the uh left knee injuries. And then uh man, it's tough because I'm gonna let one of y'all say this, but I'm gonna go a little deeper. Bo Jackson. I was gonna say that. Yeah, Bo Jackson for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He finished his career at age 28. Facts. Facts. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

What's up, y'all? It's your boy Kyrie, man. Um it's good to be back. You know, love talking shit with y'all boys with this sport shit. Uh, we're gonna have a good time today. Um, for me, though, I didn't go injury based, but I knew everybody else was gonna go injury based. Okay. I'm gonna save, I'm gonna save the last one for you because you don't like this. But the first one would be Carmelo Anthony, and this is why. Okay. He should have been a Chicago bull. If he wouldn't have gone to the Knicks, his career would have been totally different. We would have been looking at him totally different. I think he would have got a ring. Um that that's all he's missing for his career is just that ring, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 3:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

Uh my last one though, and people might look at it crazy, but I'm kind of biased with that too. But Shaquille O'Neal, and this is why. Okay, that man is way too accomplished to say a redo for the room. Hold on. You you cut me off. You let you gotta let me explain why. Can I can I I said y'all gonna say that.

SPEAKER_03 3:58

Yeah, I want to hear that.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

This is why. This is why he got four rings for sure because of his pure dominance. The nigga could have had seven. If he would have worked out and just just just took shit serious and stayed fit, yeah, Kobe's delivery was wrong and a little bit too aggressive. But if we had Kobe and Shaq forever, we're talking about Shaq is the greatest that ever played a bad game of basketball. So that's for me. If he would have took working out a little bit more serious, maybe he could have finished his career later, maybe he would have left, but it would have been a lot more dominance and it would have been a lot more championships for him, and he wouldn't just be stuck at fuck. I don't want MVP. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 4:41

Yeah, I don't disagree with that, actually. That's a good take. I wasn't expecting Shaq. No, that's why I feel it though.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

You know, you feel me though? Like if he just if he would have taken that shit a little bit more serious, his weight and all that shit, he would have been even greater. And he's the greatest big man of all time. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 5:01

That's a good take.

SPEAKER_02 5:02

But who puts him in top five, though? You feel me? Nobody really says Shaq is a top five all-time player. They just say, yeah, dominance.

SPEAKER_03 5:10

Yeah, I like that actually. I like that. Yeah, my name is Mark Quegas, man. I'm new to the to the pile with y'all. And man, my two athletes, one of them is currently in the NBA, but just hearing some crazy news a couple of days ago about him, I'm like, man, Joel and B, man, like every year, man, there's something with this dude, man. I I feel like if he didn't have all these injuries and stay healthy. And kind of like what Kyrie was saying with Shy, like if he would have stayed in TikTok shape, he probably would have been riddled with so many injuries. Man, I think uh I think Joel B would have been way more accomplished than what he did for the league. And I was looking right now, I don't I don't see him getting any more uh accomplishments in the NBA. I'm gonna tell you, Boston. I heard a crazy say that he played 490 games and missed 470. Man, that's that's just crazy. I told Kyrie he would never play a full season two years ago. Two years ago. Me and DQ was talking about this because I'm a Boston fan, so they would always go for people there against Boston. I told them, y'all can go for Philly all y'all want. He ain't gonna play.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

I remember when you was in Dallas from when you was in Dallas, we we was arguing about that. I said, I said MB gonna kill y'all because y'all didn't have no dominant big man, but he couldn't stay healthy though. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

And they were just looking good uh finishing out the season, and then boom, there you go. You know, regular scheduled program with the injuries with him. And another one is coincidentally, it's his teammate Ben Simmons. Like, he's not even in the league right now. Like, where's Ben Simmons? You know what I'm saying? I don't know if it's injuries, if it's the mental thing going on, a little some of everything, but man, we thought we thought they would be able to get it done, man. Like, I didn't expect I didn't expect this to go out like this with those two.

SPEAKER_02 7:18

Some people just can't bounce back when they get their bitch to some shit.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

So, yeah, those those are my two right there, man. Joel and B, Ben, Samus, teammates.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

I like that. My name's Smeed. I am a uh Copostatic hour alumnus. Happy to be back. Um I'm gonna go more towards players who wasn't in control of whether or not they were had a great career. So I'm gonna take it back a little bit. I don't know if some of y'all youngers know this, but I'm gonna go Reggie Lewis first.

SPEAKER_03 7:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

And then I'm gonna go Liam Bayer second.

SPEAKER_03 8:02

That's a good pull right there.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Lam Bayer's a good one, bro. That's a good pull.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

Yeah, my nigga Reggie Lewis died on the free throw line.

SPEAKER_03 8:10

Yeah, yeah, that's them is great pulls.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

But I just think that how dog was coming out of uh Maryland, I think he would have been a problem in the league. I don't know. I wasn't a Boston fan, but I always like Reggie Lewis game.

SPEAKER_02 8:26

Went to Larry. You know what I'm saying? That would have been a problem.

SPEAKER_03 8:30

That's a good pull. Facts, facts. I want to thank everybody for being here. And I am your host, five. We're gonna continue with uh the new tradition. Give a shout out to our new locations. Alright, so all these is like in different countries. So if I if I butcher the name, I'm sorry. I love y'all, but I appreciate y'all. We got Hernum Bucco Hallista, Provincia de San Jose in San Jose, uh Tabisca Tabasco, Nakajuca, and Hung Yen and Hung in the Hungyang province. Shout out to y'all. Uh the Philippines, Japan, Portugal, Venezuela, and Sweden. Shout out to y'all. We appreciate y'all. Thank you for listening to the podcast. Uh I love you actually. Thank you for supporting us, for spending your day with the Copacetic Hour. Um for me, so I was trying to like not pull like the obvious ones like Derek Rose, Grant Hill, you know what I'm saying? Um just you know, just obvious people. So a couple that I thought about was Michael Beasley. How Sam said like if he would have went somewhere else, if he'd have got a if he if his mentor he could have had a therapist, because like therapy is a thing now, but when he was coming out, that wasn't a thing. They just thought he was crazy. You know what I'm saying? If somebody he could have got with somebody to get his mental right, I think Michael Beasley would have been a problem in the NBA. And then the other one I chose is Jabari Parker. I think Jabari Parker was like, he had it, but he just kept getting hurt. He couldn't make it. He was scoring like 20, 30 points before he got like just kicked out the NBA again at one point in time. He was just done. Milwaukee let him go. Think about that team. If they had Giannis, Jabari, uh, Middleton, and uh what's my boy the guard? That's like a two-way player guard. I can't think of his name at the moment. Drew Holiday. Drew Holiday. Drew Holiday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if I think if he would have never got hurt, that team just would have been like, they'd have been built built like uh OKC is today, to me.

SPEAKER_00 11:00

Those are two good ones. You know who else I thought about too? What's the big boy from Ohio State name that went to Port?

SPEAKER_03 11:05

Greg Odin. Greg Odin. I was gonna say Greg Odin. He was the best thing that I that I seen ever since. In person, too. Where were we to go to the space gym? Ever since. Ever crazy. Ever. Man, I uh I seen a crazy documentary on the on that on the man channel. You ever heard of him? Oh, um Shea Cotton. That's he talking about. It's a whole bunch of like street legends that like uh what's my dog, the drug dealer, Peter uh Pee Wee Kirk. Pee Wee Kirk. Legend in the game, like Pee-Wee Kirk. You know what I'm saying? Like, what if Pee Wee Kirk was like? It's like, I'm gonna just stay focused. I ain't gonna sell these drugs. You know what I'm saying? Alright, jumping into our first topic. I'm gonna just shout out everybody being here. Jump into our first topic. Thoughts on the NCAA tournament. You know what I'm saying? We got Michigan, we got UCLA that won for the girls. Um, and thoughts on the NIL going forward.

SPEAKER_00 11:59

Michigan didn't even spend a lot of NIL on that roster. They were like 15th in the country in NIL for that roster.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

It helps when um you just got these older players who've been through the gauntlet already. You know what I'm saying? That's uh that's a big plus. That's gonna hurt high school kids, but I hope they make a rule. It is very good. I hurt I hope they make a rule like where you can go to like a D2 or something like that for four years and then transfer into a D1 and you don't lose any eligibility. Like that'd be already got that rule. Yeah, that's why prep schools is winning right now, because high school are losing right now. Okay. Why would I get you can't play with go ahead, B. Why would I get somebody I somebody 18 years old coming out of high school that still gotta learn? I'm gonna get this two-year player that was at a at a major college that wants to transfer. Yeah, it's way better. You get what I'm saying? And the NIL, like, and you start to see if you're not in the NIL, you're not gonna win nothing. You get what I'm saying? Like, like Dusty went and got a team. He didn't get what everybody else was doing, go get all the scores. He went and got players. Yeah, he wouldn't got defended people who can defend, shoot the ball. He got a big man that he he could produce. You get what I'm saying? Like, he went out and made it got a team. That was a legit team he wouldn't got. He didn't do what everybody else is gonna do. I'm just gonna get the best talent everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 13:23

But that's but but that's to me, that's a gift and a curse about NIL, though, because it's just like at the end of the day, we can throw around money to all these people. A lot of these colleges, they got they got wealthy boosters, right? To kind of pour into the NIL. But it's like at the end of the day, you still gotta be able to coach. You know what I mean? And I think Indiana showed that. What they what they coached, everybody came, nobody came into the season saying Indiana, they got a they got a championship team, right? But they did it by just out coaching. Dusty, Dusty, we all we talk about Dusty all the time. Like he's a he's an X and O type player, uh coach. You know what I'm saying? He developed, he's a good developer, and it's like so he don't have to have the most expensive roster, you know what I mean? So I I think I think some schools get it right, like like Michigan, not even being biased, but like Michigan, like the Indiana's of the world, but then you get some schools who just like a like a uh shit, a Duke. You know what I'm saying? We're gonna just pay whoever, the top players, you know what I mean? We're gonna we're gonna pay the top players that's in the portal, we're gonna pay the top at the type uh 150 athletes that's that's coming out of high school. We we're gonna say fuck coaching, you know what I'm saying? Fuck development, because we know that we have a one or two-year window with some of these high school players that want to come to basketball. So we're gonna pour all this money to get to get to the players, but then we forget about nigga, you still gotta go out there and coach. And honestly, bro, even with uh Michigan win the championship, bro, it wasn't no game that I was nervous about, bro, just because we just we literally outcoached everybody, bro. You know what I mean? And I think Dusty, Dusty showed that, man, you still gotta be able to develop players and you still gotta be able to just find right pieces and build a team and not just go after the best athletes by throwing the battle, bro.

SPEAKER_03 15:03

I I do want to say something because I know I got nothing but Michigan fans in here, and I have nothing against y'all. I'm happy y'all won. Ernie, the only one that didn't care so much, you know. I'm okay with y'all winning. You know, I had y'all on every sheet. But look, I'm gonna tell you, y'all game plan was good, but and we're being real honest because I've been talking to some real Michigan fans. UConn went broke in the second half. They had open shots, and it could have been a game where a tighter game. But all the open shots. No, no, no. I'm not saying Michigan wasn't terrible, but all the shots that they were shooting at UConn in the second half was wide open shots that they normally make, and they was broke at the going the first 10 minutes going that way. And I'm not taking nothing away from Michigan because y'all was too or three. You get what I'm saying? But them niggas was coming off.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

My only argument with that is that traditionally UConn is not a they not a good three-point shooting team. Like they didn't, they they didn't they didn't go by the whole season. You gotta think, bro. Oh, I know. Most of their games, they would they blew people out in the first half. You know what I mean? And a lot of their game was you know, penetration. They they do got two good shooters, but outside of that, bro, they not they're not a tradition, like a top three-point shooting team. You know what I mean? So I just like I think I think it was uh balance.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

They got an elite system that they run. Yeah, they do a very elite system. A lot of screening, a lot of yes, oh, it was a lot of open shots.

SPEAKER_03 16:32

That's what I said. That screening with them big boys was something different. Yeah, they did.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

I seen some on the internet the other day, like Besti said before the season, he was talking to the team. Their their first goal was getting to the free throw line. Getting to the free throw line was their number one goal of the season. Getting to the free throw line more than the other team. Number two was getting to the basket for layups and dumps, which is also gonna get you to the free throw line. Right. Number three was catch-and-shoot opportunities, which is gonna come off of driving to the lane. So they whole game plan wasn't even like we gonna knock down shots. Like most college coaches live and die by. You know, there's a lot of in the college game, it's a lot of threes that's going up.

SPEAKER_00 17:15

Just like the NBA, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, the college game, Dusty basically went NBA. It was all analytics. Yes, we want three pointers and free throws and dunks.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

But to get to E's point where he was saying about the NIL shit, I think it's gonna, it's coming down now to are you here for a championship? Or like DQ said, you're gonna go get the top players to say you have them, and then they're gonna stay for one or two years and then they're gone.

SPEAKER_00 17:43

Hey, I think um I was listening to Dusty interview yesterday, and the thing that stood out to me from his interview was he said that he basically built Michigan rosters off OKC rosters. He said he watched OK win the OKC win the finals with tall players, and he was like, shit, this is what I'm gonna do too.

SPEAKER_02 18:02

Got it though, like experience wins the tournament. And I've I've said this for years. Like, you're not gonna win with a freshman team. You haven't won, no freshman team has won since Anthony Davis in Kentucky. And college basketball was totally different. And that's when they were paying under the table when everybody else was, you know what I'm saying? So, I mean, you have to win with experience. So, like I said, Dusty May is taking the role of, yeah, we're not going for the top players or the best players, but we're gonna build a team to win a championship, and you do that with experience. We had experience on the floor. All five transfers, experience, and then you throw a freshman like Trey McKinney out there, who's a top player, he's able to flourish because he's not he doesn't have to be the man like a Cam Booster. You know? Like, so that experience is really what's bringing it to it. Like, for that, either you won a championship or you're gonna just go for the best players just to say you got the best players.

SPEAKER_03 19:00

I see things getting messier with that though, with everything being so copycat. Uh, everybody gonna try to follow that same trend of uh getting all these players like this, and kind of like what you were saying earlier, man, it's gonna be over for the high school kids because everybody wants to get they're gonna want to get the experience, and that's gonna make the transfer portal messy, the NIL more messier.

SPEAKER_00 19:23

It's been over for the high school kids since 2021. We five years into this right now. If you ain't crazy coming out of high school, you're not getting no D1 offer no more. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_03 19:33

You want to see what happened to these older players once they get into the NBA and NFL because some of these teams don't even want older guys. They they they want somebody who, you know, 21. Like, if you're 23 going into the NBA, it's almost over for you.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

No, that's a good point, though, because like I was hearing like the biggest knock on Yaxu right now is his age. And I'm like, damn, bro, Yaksu, Yaxu's 23 years old, right? If you if you if you have a good career in the NBA, you you're probably gonna play till you're about 33. So they saying that the they saying that the knock on Yaxu, as good as he is as a player, both sides of the ball, the fact that he's 23 years old. Like, imagine that though, you know what I mean? So that's to me, I think, man, when you talk about the NIL, man, is even though even though from the outside looking in, the players are benefiting from it, the schools are really benefiting from this. You know what I'm saying? Like, cause it this is everything that they've been doing already. And and and the fact that the NIL is still unregulated and it's it doesn't have like no type of governed body to kind of enforce different rules and regulations, it's the wild, wild west. So the big universities with the big boosters, they gonna always win. You know what I mean? They gonna always win. Yeah, yeah, you you may have you may have the Indiana's. I can't even say Indiana shit. They got uh what's uh the Mavericks old coach. He one of the top boosters, you know. I can't even say him. So he pouring into he point into the university. Yeah, so it just I mean, again, it's just one of those things, bro. I feel like the university is gonna always win, and the university with the most expensive boosters, you know, we got we got Ellison, so he's a billionaire, so we can always provide talent when it comes to that as far as paying the talent. I just feel bad for these high school kids, A, who have to take a different route to actually get to a D1 roster, and for some of these kids who think the grass is green on the other side by transferring every year. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 21:25

The university's not benefiting though. They're going broke. That's why the big ten is trying to get in the um, that's why the big ten is trying to sell equity right now. Because the unit the the conference is going broke, the universities is going broke. They said that like um 75% of the athletic departments is in the red just based off NIL. But to me, when it comes to MIL, NIL, I'm on some Malcolm X shit. The chickens have come home the roof. It's been generational wealth created for white men for hundreds of years off the back of black athletes. The Fab Five. Just a simple example. What if they was playing? How much money do you think Michigan made off the Fab Five in the years they was there?

SPEAKER_03 22:08

They still making money off the Fab Five. That's what I'm saying. Nike. Everybody was going to wear black socks. Yeah, Nike. And then the other thing, bro.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

But the school's not even do your homework on Larry Ellison outside of basketball, bro. Do your homework on Dog. Dog is a wild boy.

SPEAKER_03 22:28

Say his name? Larry Ellison.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

So let me ask y'all this though. I kind of, and they're not gonna get any of the blame, but I'm not gonna lie. Like we I think we should kind of blame the NBA too, because they keep going to get these young ass players, and then the young ass players sometimes don't even translate to being ready in the NBA. So think about it like back in the day when Jordan and Bird and all that was coming in. They stayed two, three years in the in the NCAA. And then they came in and they dominated ASAP. But then you get some players that's coming in. Like let's be honest, this is one of the best draft classes coming in in a long time. And still a lot of them gonna go to the G League. A lot of them ain't gonna be great. Most of them. You feel me? So it's like a lot of these kids is not ready, bro. For the NBA. You feel me? So, like, in a way, like we keep saying it, it's got it's hurting them, but I think it it could eventually translate to all right, now we're gonna start drafting these two three-year players. You know what I'm saying? Like, maybe we don't just go get this 18-year-old right away because Yaksu is ready to play in the NBA today. He's already ready, he's ready to play. You can put him on a Denver, you can put him on a uh any contender team, and he's gonna be in that rotation and he's gonna produce right now. He's not a star, but he's gonna produce as a role player.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

And unlike NBA players, he really wants to play.

SPEAKER_02 24:01

You know, a lot of these kids not ready to go in at 18-19. Like, what's the dog name? Jeremy McCain that came in, um dude. You're not ready, bro. You know what I'm saying? A lot of these kids not ready. Jeremy Fears just entered the the draft, like, bro. You're not ready, bro.

SPEAKER_00 24:16

I think Jeremy Fears just testing the water because he is nowhere near ready.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

He knows it. He's not he's probably undrafted.

SPEAKER_03 24:23

He didn't, he didn't get a he didn't get uh uh agent so he can enter back.

SPEAKER_02 24:26

That's everybody going with these 18-year-olds, just like y'all said, they want the 18-year-olds. They don't they don't want the 24-year-olds, but again, sometimes those 24-year-olds come in and they ready. Damian L.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

NBA drives based on potential versus actual talent.

SPEAKER_03 24:43

Yes, but this right here is a good year for those players who who you say may not be ready, but kind of ready. This is a good year for them to actually get on the team and get in there because everybody's thirsty for this new drive class right here. And they're getting ready to do the expansion, they're gonna add two more teams. So that's gonna uh work in their favor as well, for sure. All right, any last thoughts on NCAA? We didn't say nothing about the girls. Any thoughts on the girls?

SPEAKER_01 25:12

I was just about to say Dino a hope.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

Yeah, they got uh just ran into a big ass UCLA team.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

Hey, UCLA, not a big ass team, just what we y'all talked about. They were seasoned, they was there for four years. All of them was taller, all of them, but but but Sam, they was there for four years. Hot Kaz, the point guard, the big girl, they was there.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

See, they put it on them young girls. They about to have a code to them. They about to have four first round picks, bro.

SPEAKER_03 25:45

That's crazy. But that's typical for girls, though. Like the girls have to stay all four years.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

Yeah, you have to. And I think I said this a while back. I think boys should stay two years. I think they should have, I think they should have two years. Just like if NFL knows when you come out of high school, you're not ready. So you gotta be out of school three years before you can enter in our league, and it translates better. And that's just that's just how I feel about it. But my last thoughts, baby, is we the fucking champions. Michigan State could never since 2000. We the champions, baby. This is what we do. Iso get out the way, it's 30 years. You got one. Dusty May came in in two years and he got one. We run this shit now. That's what we're saying. And then football, we're coming right back to we'll get to that part later.

SPEAKER_03 26:35

So the thing on uh about Michigan winning so easily, that made me feel bad for Juwan Howard. Because it was like you was just what was you doing the year before? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 26:47

No. No. Nigga, Juwan last year, he had four, he had four of the top 15 um portal players committed to Michigan, and Michigan wouldn't give up the bag. The next year after they fired him, they give Dusty the bag.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

Well, maybe that's what it is then.

SPEAKER_00 27:10

It was the same year he had Caleb Love committed. He had a dog that went to Toledo that transferred to Baylor. He had all of them committed, and Michigan wouldn't give him the bag. He did have Caleb Love committed. Then, once the white man came, they flooded him.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

All right, cool. You can make it black and white all you want. It was a blessing in disguise because we got a championship. Oh, it was definitely a blessing. It didn't happen. Dusty May is a better coach than him. There's no argument about it. And we was blessed with Sharon Moore getting his ass up out of there, too, baby. So it is what it is. It is what it is.

SPEAKER_03 27:45

Uh and Sharon Moore, I feel bad for that man too, because like for all that to not. Yeah, he did, he did. But for all that to not be true is crazy. Yeah, we know what was true. That's what got you fired.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Yeah, not the other shit. Yeah. What got you fired? Bro, listen, I think I say it all the time. If we beat Ohio State and we ended up in a college football, he don't get fired. He don't get fired.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

And when Sharon Moore talk, when Sharon Moore talk, he's gonna once he starts talking, he's gonna completely divide the fan base because Michigan was on some whole shit with him too.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

Man, look, our fan base is too strong. I bet we don't.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

Bro, this fan, this ain't the first time this fan base has been divided. Shit, we was just divided in uh with Harbaugh. Half niggas wanted them fired, half niggas want them to stay.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Yeah, yeah, y'all was divided. You know where I was at in our bar, baby. Champs.

SPEAKER_03 28:47

Hilarious, hilarious. Alright, moving into our second topic. This NBA 65 game rule, like, is it fair? Is it the player's fault because this is happening? Because of low management, or should they deal with what it is because that's just what it is? Or should it be changed? Uh, me personally, man, I I love the 65-game rule. Um man, rules is rules, man. And I don't think they should be trying to tweak it or do anything to it. I I don't think the rule was put in place for the players to not necessarily get these awards. It's more for them to play. I mean, it's accountability. From a fan point of view, man.

SPEAKER_04 29:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

I'm here in Grand Rapids, man. If I want to go see a game in Detroit, that's a two-hour drive, you don't know when to buy the ticket. You you like waiting last minute to buy the ticket because you don't know who's playing. Like, who don't you don't you want to go to a game where the stars is playing.

SPEAKER_04 29:51

Right.

SPEAKER_03 29:51

So it's times you don't even want to watch the game because these dudes is not on the court, man. So I think the rule is just to get these players to play. And if a few elite athletes gotta bite the dust to get the players on the court, man, so be it, man. I hate Cade gotta go through it and Anthony Errors. I hear Luca trying to appeal. So I hate that they gotta go through, but man, we gotta get these players on the court, man. Basketball would be so bad to watch when you don't see them on the court. Like, it's getting out of control.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

I'm with you. I like that. I'm with you. I definitely think it's fair, but it should be a stipulation for injuries. Because if Luca is right there at 63 and Cade is right there at 64, it's like, come on, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can see if they was doing a oh, I'm not playing on back-to-back games and shit like that. Like, they're not doing that, that Ted Duncan's Ur shit. You feel me? So it's like that's where I don't like it at, though. Cause it's like, you should you should definitely show some love for the people who just got a freak injury. Like, Luca would have finished with 70 games play. Keep finished with 70 plus games play. So it's like, damn, like, come on, man.

SPEAKER_03 31:06

Do you think it should be minute base versus a 65 game? Man, to be I hear I hear conversations about being about it being minute-based versus minute-based would be that's what I was gonna say. Because if we go on injuries, it'd have to be minute-based because if they don't reach 65 games, then it's a rule. I get what Kyrie's saying, the injuries, but I I read about the minute base too. Minute base might be sweeter.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

I think I'm not a fan of the uh the minute base though, because the minute base that's I mean, it it's gonna manipulate every team, you know what I'm saying? So, like, if I'm one coach is not gonna play his his star the same way another course player star, and then it don't benefit good teams either. Because if you a good team like OKC and you blowing people out in the first half, you probably not gonna play your stars in the second half. You know what I mean? So I think it needs to be a stipulation when it comes to injury. Because I'm and and then I I look at it like this. I know somebody brought up K. K 64 games, Luca was 62 games. Um Wimby rushing back from an injury just so he can't hit 65 games.

SPEAKER_03 32:10

That's what I'm saying, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

I don't got no empathy in my heart for them, especially Kay Cunningham. I paid top dollar this season to go to two Pistons games, and both times that nigga was on the bench.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

And that's what I said, and that's what I've been saying, man.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

I don't went to none of them. They all took their break. They all took their break, they break game. And look, it was he niggas out the pistons rotation was on the sideline street clothes. My homegirl had gave me court side seats to the pistons. Pay top dollar for the motherfuckers. I get there, hey all the niggas was sitting next to me.

unknown 32:48

I'm like, damn, what's up?

SPEAKER_00 32:49

They're like, oh yeah, we on some low, we got load management tonight. Hey man, so now it's the end of the season, and you talking about nah fuck that go on and load management.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

That's what we said though. Hey, look, look, bro.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

It's time to go to a Pissers and Lakers game. You can't go to a Bulls game, they're not gonna play first of all.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

Man, I went to I went to the true look.

SPEAKER_03 33:15

I buy I gotta NBA tickets today up, man.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

I gotta read the interest picture to LeBron sitting on the end of the bench in a suit in Detroit. I remember everybody went to his first NBA game, and LeBron was not playing.

SPEAKER_03 33:28

They said LeBron was playing, everybody bought tickets.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

I remember everybody bought tickets to take their kids, showed up game time decision, LeBron ain't playing. That's crazy. Why are these niggas low management and they only practice three hours a day, man?

SPEAKER_03 33:41

Thank you, Sam.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

That's why I don't feel like that injury shit.

SPEAKER_03 33:44

Because I'm gonna be honest, if Luca would have played them a couple of games he set out at the beginning of the year, we wouldn't be going through this.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

Yeah, and and let's be honest though, let's be honest though, and I hate to always go back to this, but Michael Jordan played all 82 games.

SPEAKER_00 33:58

Yes, at 40.

SPEAKER_02 34:00

And he wanted too.

SPEAKER_03 34:01

Hey, hey, hey, and you want to go deeper into it? I know you don't want to hear this, so did LeBron James.

SPEAKER_02 34:07

No, no, no. LeBron played only one year. LeBron always played over old as played 82 that last season.

SPEAKER_03 34:18

No, but he's always played over 65. LeBron, I looked it up.

SPEAKER_01 34:22

He's always played over 65. Let me let me ask y'all this though. Let me ask y'all this. How how do we fix it though?

SPEAKER_03 34:27

Or my thing is my thing is uh I don't think it's no fix to it. Yeah, I don't think it should be because the owners ain't gonna let you fix it. You're fucking up that paper too. You fucking up. What was the function DQ? How how do the uh NBA fix the issue? I don't think it should be changed. Uh the only thing I can think of that you can make some type of uh exception for is like the same thing you would get at a regular job. Like at your regular job, if you get sick, you know what I'm saying, you don't lose you don't lose time or work or anything like that. If you you get injured at your regular job. But I'm saying, but they don't have that 15 days, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 35:09

Like uh So Luca's appealing because he had a baby and he missed. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 35:15

Birth of a child, somebody died, uh the NBA just I think they they're gonna have to hire like a medical team instead of having teams do like their own assessment of players. Like if you legit get injured, the NBA should have their own medical staff to have to like confirm your injury, like how Kay blew out his lung or whatever, or how MB got uh Wimby got hurt. Like the only thing I'm I I think should happen is what E was basically talking about. You gotta make a medical NBA team. They can only be the ones to check to see, and it's gotta be hey, is it red line, green line? You get what I'm saying? Like if they go through, like let's say, let's say Cade injury was real, you get what I'm saying? Now they go to the NBA specialist and they say it's real. You get what I'm saying? But now you gotta come up with a rule now, DQ, on how many games do you let him, you get what I'm saying? Now it gets a little sticky right there. I think one of the issues is with the uh with these teams' medical styles is uh is everybody using analytics, so it's all science behind everything. So they with the analytics, an injury is like this. All right, if it's a calf strain, automatically set off two weeks. Not saying that the player needs to set off two weeks, but the analytics say for this calf strain, he needs to set up two weeks, and that's trash. When you got somebody like Giannis, yeah, Giannis begging to play with his brothers, and they just set this dude down to five games. Let me ahead at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

The NBA is a diminishing product. I think, man, I think it's gonna get I think it's gonna get nasty, man, because you talk about I think another thing that that that's making it even worse, you you think about the drive class you get right now. You know what I mean? Like how many good players that's on CD teams that's actually sitting out so they can tank too. You know what I mean? I think the only way you I think the only way you really tap in to get these players to start playing is start is put it in their contract. You know what I mean? Like part of your contract, you gotta you gotta play so many games. And I think just being able to just say awards, because some players they don't care about awards, some niggas they don't care about. Hey, Jeff Twitter. Your boy Kobe said it best. You know how to do it.

SPEAKER_00 37:26

Hey, Jeff Key said that when he got to the Hawks, he said they told that nigga no matter what, he ain't playing more than 18 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 37:34

Yeah. Hey, Kobe said it best though, man. You never know who's coming. So pay this ticket, what they went through, to get this, to see them for the first time ever. I gotta perform. I gotta be on the floor no matter if I don't want to. I don't know who could have been coming to see me.

SPEAKER_00 37:54

I could have been eaten for JJ for them tickets.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

You could have done hey, listen. For real, though.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

But never know. Man, it's like they I guess like one of the main problems is man, these dudes sitting on national televised games, like fuck the fans, and then man, you you play Monday, but sit on Wednesday, but play Thursday. Like, like what's going on with that? I don't understand that part of it. The owners ain't gonna let the they ain't gonna let the rule be changed because it's fucking up that paper, too. Just like they say it's the owners who make it them. According to Zion, when he's gonna it ain't the owners, because look, I'm telling y'all, it's the it ain't all them owners because they're missing out on the papers. Think about somebody like Sam who went to the game and eight players hitting up. You know how many people leave that game. You did, but but think about the people like fuck that. I need a refund or pay for the refund and didn't get none. You now you're missing out on drinks, everything. Motherfuckers don't be going to those games. Once they figure out if you pay for your refund, you get what I'm saying? Motherfuckers will get their refund quick. Yeah, yeah. I think the ratings getting killed. That's gonna uh really bring it more. You know, that's why it's a big conversation right now about it. Cause we're not watching, man. I'm not watching the game, like as far as like what Sam was saying, man. You got eight players saying no, man. I'm not watching that game, man.

SPEAKER_02 39:23

What we doing, man? Hey, look, that's gonna lie, that's how I feel about the Lakers right now. See, I'm pissed off. We got all these injuries. I do want to watch a game. Right.

SPEAKER_03 39:32

I just want to finish my point that uh like how y'all were saying, like, Brainerd brought up the point where uh once you do have a medical team, the medical team examines them, and then they have to make a rule, like what's a certain amount you can sit out. Every like every injury, every diagnosis, there's a medical standard for uh how that goes, and then they just would have to abide by that medical standard until they can be re-evaluated again. You know what I'm saying? Hey, A E.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

Yeah, how you fix that shit is this if the star player ain't playing, or if two of the star players ain't playing, y'all automatically refund them tickets.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

Oh, wait. Well, that's not gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. You know, Sam's gonna start a fight. Yeah, Sam's gonna start a war. Sam's trying to start a war between the owners and the players. Right, what ain't gonna happen. Yeah, I was not a problem, man.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

How I'm paying$1,200 for two seats and the best nigga ain't playing.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Man, look, bro, I look at it like Zion, bro. I I look at it like Zion. We Zion had injuries. Shit, every year he's been in the NBA. They change they changed the language of that nigga contract. Best season since he's been in the NBA this year, bro. You gotta play with their money, bro. You have to play with their money. That's the only way that they're gonna take it serious. Half these players, they really don't care about awards. But you know, again, you get some people who care about their legacy, but it's just like, man, I I was listening to Wimby the other day. Wimby was saying, man, like I wanna stack up as much um as much of the accolades right now while I can. While I'm young, I want to try to go after all the awards right now. I want to try to go after all the uh championships right now because it's gonna be a time where trying to get those things is gonna be hard. You know what I mean? So it's just like you gotta play with these cats, you gotta play with their money, bro. That's the only way that this is gonna change.

SPEAKER_03 41:34

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