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This week on The Copacetic Hour, we get into how different the world feels today compared to the generations before us. We talk about how our grandparents and elders took real pride in their work no matter the title, paycheck, or status and why that kind of dedication feels rare now.

We also dive into movies that were never labeled as horror or thrillers… but still somehow traumatized all of us anyway.

And of course, we had to address the conversation around Black Greek life, social media opinions, and the growing trend of people publicly denouncing their letters. We give our unfiltered thoughts on the culture, the criticism, and what people may be missing from the outside looking in.

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

You're tuning in to the Copa Setic Cup. This is the Copacetics. Why don't you just share?

SPEAKER_02 0:23

Yes! This is the Copacetic Hour. Copacetic is a term meaning everything is fine, cool, and in excellent order. This podcast is an area for open discussion, but not for the weak-hearted nor the simple-minded. And although you may not always agree, we always exemplify respect. But at the same time, nobody, and I do mean nobody is exempt from getting these jokes. Everything is copacetic. Yes, the copacetic hours, everybody, doing today. I'm doing good.

SPEAKER_05 0:55

How you doing?

SPEAKER_02 0:56

We are doing great. We're doing great. We are back with another check-in episode featuring the lovely Val.

SPEAKER_05 1:03

Thank you. I appreciate you. I uh always appreciate the invite to come on. Talk my shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:10

100%. So we got some big shoes to fill. Val, I didn't tell you this before the show started, but the last show we did got me an interview with uh some some somebody. They got me an interview, they wrote me and they said, Hey, I listened to this episode. I would really love to come onto the show. So we got some big shoes to fill.

SPEAKER_05 1:30

That's cool. What it what was like, what intrigued them? I'm curious.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

How we handled the the email of the week. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They actually hey, I want to be on the show. You guys had a really good conversation. They wrote me and they said they wanted to be on.

SPEAKER_05 1:46

That's awesome. I love that.

SPEAKER_02 1:48

A semi-famous person, too. It's just kind of cool, actually. So when we done recording, I want to know. You can just tell, you can't just They're not, they're not like black semi-famous, but they semi-famous, I guess, in Nayfield.

SPEAKER_05 2:02

And that's cool. Yeah. I think that's that's awesome. And I think, I mean, that's the point though. Like, you know, we're out here just having conversation, um, happen to be recorded. It's kind of like um being that fly on the wall. It's just a bunch of people out there, and so um yeah, I think that's cool that it it obviously sparked something in someone else that they want to talk they shit.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

Let's get it. All right, so today's why don't you chill icebreaker is what's the scariest movie to you that's not actually a scary movie? No horror, it's not a thriller or anything, but in hindsight, it is actually freaking scary.

SPEAKER_05 2:52

So my name is V or Val. And um, so man, when you put thriller in there, now I'm kind of like, okay, thrillers aren't necessarily scary. First of all, let's start by saying I don't like scary movies, don't like blood gore, unless it's like a you know, like a cult classic.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

Like I can, I can like John Wick or something.

SPEAKER_05 3:17

Um, I don't know that that's a cult classic for me.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

Uh I'm talking like I haven't even seen all John Wick, so I can't talk. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:26

I'm talking about like set it off.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05 3:29

You know, like when Freshad got shot and ate all the blood and uh you know I'm saying that. Um so that could be one in itself. Uh set it off could be a scary movie, but you know, because you just never know where life will lead you. But I was gonna say shot caller. Have you ever seen that movie?

SPEAKER_02 3:48

Oh, the Jamaican movie?

SPEAKER_05 3:50

No, it's not. That's Shotas.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

That is Shotas. You are right. Yes, that is.

SPEAKER_05 3:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

What's Shot Caller about?

SPEAKER_05 3:57

It's a crime thriller, and so I don't know that it will maybe on this. But anyway, so it's this um regular smegular guy. He was drive, yeah, like a white-collar professional. So like he, you know, regular smegular. And he and his family or his wife, like they were like on a double date or something.

SPEAKER_04 4:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 4:23

Anyway, he um got into a car accident that killed some people. I don't know if they killed his wife. I can't remember. I haven't seen it in a while, but I did pull it up to just kind of refresh my memory. But long story short, he ends up going to prison for the DUI. And he ends up being this gangster. Like, he turned it 180. And um, I just say that because I'm afraid to go to jail. So that to me is a horror. What like that's one thing that I do not want to ever experience ever. Period. Call me whatever you want, call me soft, call me princess, call me whatever, but I do not want to go there.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

Yeah, so don't be doing no crimes with or in front of Val, okay? Don't do it.

SPEAKER_05 5:18

No, I'm not a smidge, so let's be clear. Let's be clear. I'm not a smidge.

SPEAKER_02 5:24

So that ain't doing no telling now. Come on now.

SPEAKER_05 5:26

No, no, I ain't doing no telling. But I'm just saying, like, that's just not what I that's just not what I want to do. You know, like I'm uh, yeah. I feel like, yeah, I don't want to say nothing else. But I just think being in that situation where, you know, they it was it was like they were on a double date or something. Um yeah, and I would never want to be that. And so then it actually brings me to like seven pounds. Have you seen that one with Will Smith?

SPEAKER_02 5:55

Yeah, yeah, giving away the different um organs, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:59

Yeah, that's a that's like a horror to me too. Huh? Okay, what's scary about that? A bunch of things. Like actually.

SPEAKER_02 6:08

She was so depressed or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 6:10

Yeah, I think so. And just how he just how he navigated life um after the accident that killed his wife and all those, all the people. And um, you know, like in that in that movie, he his wife, I think, would always frequently tell him to get off the phone, and he was always working, and he was like, just one minute, just one minute. It was that minute that you know caused a fatal car accident. So I think about things like that because some things that we do regularly, um that we don't really think about how it can be our detriment. One thing that people that ride with me will know I don't text and drive. I really don't. Like if I'm at the stoplight, okay, I might peek down, whatever. Siri is the bomb, she ain't gone. But you know, I'll say, you know, I'll say what I want and you know, text it out or do voice messages or voice memos, but like um texting and driving, I think about that, just being distracted and driving, like just any of that and how that can change your life.

SPEAKER_02 7:17

In a split second, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:18

In a split second. So any, I think any of those type of movies where your life is changing in a split second to be that's a horror. It's like, whoa. And we know that you know, you could be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Think about Ricky from Boys in the Hood, you know. Yeah, they wanted to split up. I don't know. I still don't understand.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

But you know, I don't understand why he didn't zigzag, like you a football player, like do some zigzags, hop the hop the uh the wall, something, my boy.

SPEAKER_05 7:48

Yo, I yeah, yeah, pissing me off. I'm fighting the air like like Cuba. Like that shit pissed me off.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

That's funny.

SPEAKER_05 7:58

But yeah, I think those types of movies, those are just some examples, but I think those are the type where they're not necessarily horrors, but they're just like people doing regular smegular things every day, and then their life turns, takes a turn, which I understand that happens in real life. Facts.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

All right, I am your host five. Um, like I said, I want to thank B for being here. Shout out to our new listeners, shout out to Niles, Illinois.

SPEAKER_05 8:31

Shout out to You throwing an S on the Illinois, Illinois.

SPEAKER_02 8:35

Is no S on Illinois?

SPEAKER_05 8:37

Nah, bro, I think it's Illinois, but listen, don't I hear to judge?

SPEAKER_02 8:43

Shout out to Niles, Illinois. I can't even say what I was just shout out to You know I won't say you Uticon Utacan Ukatan. Yeah, Ucatan Peito. Shout out to Damicus, Damicus Gov Governorate, Governorate, shout out to Rio Grande, Rio Grande de Sol. Those are our new locations this month. Shout out to y'all. I appreciate y'all. I love y'all. Thank you for spending some time with the Copacetic Hour. So funny.

SPEAKER_05 9:26

You ain't wrote that R like I was expecting you to.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

I think they from Ubakistan, so I don't think the R was needed. Oh, okay, bad. Yeah, I don't think they were needed. I can't even say their country right, letting known the name of the city. But I thank you. Shout out to Bangladesh and the Philippines. Shout out to y'all. I appreciate you. Um for me, what movie has always scared me?

SPEAKER_05 9:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

Especially like now how the weather has been is Day After Tomorrow. Day After Tomorrow is the scariest freaking movie to me. That's not an actual. I don't even watch, I don't watch horror movies or nothing like that either. I don't be I don't do devils and demons and all that. I don't do that. I believe in Jesus. As do I. Amen. Amen. So them things is real. Rose on the third day. You know what I'm saying? But I'm saying those things are real, so I don't need no extra. I don't need no, I don't need no make-believe demons. Um, but yeah, day after tomorrow is the scariest thing. Anything like that where it's like out of your control, flooding, tornadoes, earthquakes, all those natural disaster movies. When I was growing up, Final Destination was scary. All those movies were scary because like that could happen to your real life. The roller coaster could mess up and you could just fall off the roller coaster. You know what I'm saying? Um, but Dare Tomorrow, the scariest part, I think it was when the the climate was shifting. So like winter was going down south and summer was going up north or something, and the people that got uh caught in between just froze on impact and just froze solid and they died on instant on instant instantly. They were in the libraries like throwing books in the fire because there was no heat, you know what I'm saying? There was no food. All the I don't know, like anything where we just go back to ancient times, like now where there's no food, there's no water, there's no electricity. You know, we're trying to rough it on the land basically with no no knowledge and no gear. That's famine. You know what I'm saying? Like that's scary. That's real. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 11:53

You know, it's interesting when we think about like what's scary to us, because I think just generally speaking, scary can just be anything that's outside of our norm. Facts, anything that's changed, because you know, change is scary for you know most people. Um so yeah, it's interesting how like how anything can be um like just regular smeggular and then end up being scary.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

We hunt animals all of a sudden, now all of a sudden the animals is hunting us now. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's scary, bro.

SPEAKER_05 12:29

Yeah, but it was all cool, it was all cool. We was hunting right.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

It's cool when you do it, it's probably when I do it.

SPEAKER_05 12:38

What they what's that saying? It's all fun until the rabbit got the gun. Right, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 12:44

The uh the bobcat or the mountain lion or whatever is coming after us.

SPEAKER_05 12:49

That's wild. What do you think them deer be thinking uh no every November 15th? They be looking at their calendar like, damn, it's punch.

SPEAKER_02 12:57

I gotta stay, I gotta stay out the way.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

They probably think how we be thinking black people. We be certain places like, hey, uh, I ain't going outside today. It's too hot outside.

SPEAKER_05 13:10

You ain't lying. Yo, think about 2020. Like, I felt some type of way. I felt like every, nah, I wanna say every, but I felt like there were certain people that you know had on a red trucker hat with white writing. Like, I just felt like they would want to kill me. Like, just you know.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

So along with that, I was scared of COVID. Yeah, COVID was killing fat people, okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

It was killing all people, but yeah. You know what I'm saying? COVID, we my people wasn't really making it that much.

SPEAKER_05 13:44

That was such a wild time. I know we talked about that a little bit last time, but yo, that was such a wild time. Like my prayer every day was like, Lord, I remember I have um actually some journal entries because I didn't know like how to get out all the energy and emotion that I had. And during that time, I sent my daughter to go live with my parents because I was a I was a hall director in a residence hall. And you know, students come from all over, yeah. Um and it was it was like, did I do the right thing? Like, because my parents are older, they were staying inside the house. Like I knew that was a controlled, safe, loving environment that she could be in. Whereas my world was a little uh, you know, at the time, you can't control what the students is doing, yeah. Exactly. They were coming and going and whatever. So, anyway, I just think about that and how we had to shift and how scary it was just because it was outside of our norm.

SPEAKER_02 14:47

Fact, and it was killing people, it wasn't like it was just change. No, that's true, people was dying, and there wasn't enough ventilators.

SPEAKER_05 14:56

What you mean? You know, like it could be stuff like that, right?

SPEAKER_02 15:00

Like y'all don't even have enough stuff for everybody to survive if something happened. Okay, and then so who did the inventory? There was a uh there was something, I don't know what I was watching, but it was scary because it was like if we ever have that thing again, or or when everybody was taking the vaccine, like the vaccine is coming too fast. And they were like, what happens if you know how they were mandating like all the doctors and the nurses and everybody to take the vaccine? What if the vaccine messes them up and now they start dying? Now we we've even more behind now. We have no no one has the the knowledge to treat it now, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, or to help people. That's real. I was like, God, that's yeah, that's scary, bro. Like, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 15:48

I was thinking about the vaccine though, and like how many people were um like, yo, I'm not taking that vaccine. Uh it came out too fast, or like there was just, you know, there were several different um I mean that's narratives that were it and yeah, I I think everybody has the right to their own perspective, opinion, and the agency to do what they feel is right for their bodies, right? Right. But I mean, not but and um I think um some like think logically, think about how like there's the flu vaccine, there's several other vaccines that are out there, yeah, and that lays the foundation and the groundwork that has already been done because there had to have been research that made those. And so when you have scientists and people that have studied said things to find a vaccine for this thing right here, which was at the time, like obviously COVID, it's like okay, yeah, and this is some people's sole job. Like, just because you can't like think about how there's um people in science that this is this gives them so much joy, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

This is their thing, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:02

This is the thing, and so it's kind of like yuck, like what? But I mean, this is what people do, this is their job daily. So why wouldn't you think that it will they would find the the vaccine?

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Two reasons, yeah. One reason from everything I was always told it takes a certain a number of years for a vaccine or a medicine or anything to go through trial, to go through all these different steps for it to be, you know, good to go to go to the public. That's what they've always said. You know what I'm saying? Now all of a sudden now we're in an emergency. Let's skip all the steps. We'll need that's not really true. Well, I know we've been telling y'all that, but that's not really true. You know what I'm saying? We we were just saying that so we could take our time.

SPEAKER_01 17:53

Yeah. Maybe, okay. Maybe that's true. But that ain't what y'all been telling me all my life.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

Number two, people today are not as dedicated to things as people back in the day. I I really do feel like our grandparents, uncles, like the great, the older generation, like 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s now, they actually took pride in their work. They didn't have distractions like we got distractions now. Like, I won't go to like a carnival that comes to like your local mire parking lot and stuff like that. I won't get on those rides anymore. Because I there's people like me who put them together. You know what I'm saying? Like, yes, I put it together how it said, but I don't necessarily have pride in my work, though, if I'm gonna be for real. Like, I don't love this. You know what I'm saying? Grandpa 1950s, he was the carnival ride put together guy. He that was his job, and he took pride in his job and did his job to the fullest. He made sure I got the best carnival put-together rider person in the land. You know what I'm saying? Like, that was his thing. We don't our generation do not have pride like that in things.

SPEAKER_05 19:15

I think um, yes, yeah, I I hear you. I think that that is true.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

And I I think think about students, not students, but like okay, your daughter, for example. How many snow days and clothes days has she gotten compared to when we were kids?

SPEAKER_05 19:34

Yeah, absolutely, 100%, way more, even at Western, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Like, they get all types of snow days and days off. I'm like, we was walking through five feet of snow to school.

SPEAKER_05 19:48

So I think too, when you know better, you do better. But I do think I do think uh with the what you were saying about how pride, yeah, I think it has to be taught. Um, and I think who is that? Uh somebody had on a IG or something, it was like uh OGs or kids ain't learn from the OGs no more. So I think that like the grandparents that took pride in their work, yeah, they it was passed down from generation to generation, I think. And you know, that was kind of like instilled in them. You know, I have a old school, I have old parents in comparison to my peers.

SPEAKER_04 20:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:25

Um and so, and they're southern. They southern people, so they have like a whole different kind of mindset. Um, I think. And so it's just really what how you grew up. Think about the internet, like the youth now. We, I'm we included, like we had internet at our fingertips, you know. I'd be throwing some stuff through Chat GPT, like it ain't nothing. Because I'm like, why if they gonna, you know, like I can think, I have a mind, I can can do the things that chat GPT is doing for me uh now, but I had to, it took time, I had to think about it. So why not cut the time in half and put that money through there and we we got it, you know? And it's kind of like so. Then where's the pride? Because I know that I didn't necessarily create it from scratch.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

I hear you, and that's true, but I think I think another difference is is that the economy is so different from when you know the older generation was coming up. The guy at the the Carnival ride maker guy, he had a house, he had a car, and you know what I'm saying? He had insurance, he paid his insurance, and he retired off building carnival rides and lives a good life, paid off his house, paid off his car, and he retired. Yeah, got his social security, he's straight for the rest of his till he go.

SPEAKER_05 21:55

That's not and a pension.

SPEAKER_02 21:57

And a pension, you know what I'm saying? Our generation can't. Do that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 22:02

Better pay into that 401k or maybe to be on the street.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 22:07

Yeah, a Roth IRA stuff together.

SPEAKER_02 22:11

Get some uh, you know, life insurance. If life insurance, a company with some type of equity that pays off your life insurance from something, one of those stocks, you know what I'm saying? Try to combine them together. Cause like, and that's another reason. Like, that's why we don't have pride. Because like, why would I need pride in this? And I gotta go to another job after this. You know what I'm saying? Or I got a roommate who I don't like for real, for real. But I need to make, I need somewhere to live. You know what I'm saying? Two bedroom apartment now is sixteen hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_05 22:48

So then we can transition because I have lots of grievances. Okay. So I think about like expectations. So we're talking about like the older generation and like the expectations that they have because they want us to do better and they want us to um learn from their mistakes and all that, and times have changed. So, how can two things be true? You want us to do better and learn from your mistakes and all that, and the economy is shit. How do we do this? How, how, tell me. Like when I was growing up, I wanted to have five kids, and I'm like, bro, kids are expensive. What I love, I would love to have a whole bunch of babies, and the reality is who paying for them? And then they talk about they and we will, I mean, like I've heard from you know the government, the internet, let's say the internet that uh people aren't having babies. Now, why would you love my kid, love children? Yeah, but why would like because why would you put yourself in the in the in in debt?

SPEAKER_02 24:04

What? Super debt.

SPEAKER_05 24:07

And it's hard to like hard conversations.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Yeah, you appear for life. My mom sent me stuff all the time, sometimes. Hey, bro, you know what I'm saying? Like, hey mom, I pay you back, okay? I got the money, but I I need it now. And I'll pay you back on Friday, okay?

unknown 24:26

Cool.

SPEAKER_05 24:27

JG Wentworth in the month.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not I'm not paying it with my credit card because I don't want to put no more interest on my credit card. Your credit card's high? No, my credit cards are not high right now, and I want to keep it that way. But if you got it, just give it to me and I give it back to you. So there's no harm in a foul, okay? I give it right back.

SPEAKER_05 24:46

You know what I'm saying? That's real. It's hard out here. It's hard. That's one thing that I um listen, just know I'm down. If I had to go to my parents, no, I'm down past.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

You know what I'm saying? I'm down past I I don't wanna, I don't want to. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 25:02

I don't want to do that. So think about having five. So uh my my uh my mom, she's one of 13 children.

SPEAKER_02 25:15

It's crazy. That can't happen now. Never only Nick Cannon can do that.

SPEAKER_05 25:20

Yo, or daddy, or daddy daddy.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

They got several baby ballots. You know what I'm saying? What? That's not something we could just do.

SPEAKER_02 25:31

We can't, me and you can't get married. Like, you know what, Val. Forget the birth control, forget the I'm not if I'm married, I'm not using condoms. Period. So, but forget the birth control, forget the the pull-out method, forget all that. Let's just have five kids.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

We can't responsibly, we can't do that. That's not that's not something that we would be able to do.

SPEAKER_05 25:55

Unless we were balling. Like, I guess, I guess, I guess we're talking from the perspective of where we are now, regular, smegular people just trying to survive, make in the world. Like, we not uh, you know, famous or have lots of money and stuff. So I suppose we should probably, you know, yeah. I mean, five is just contextualize it.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

You know, it's a five is just a I said five is just a lot, period, for anybody. Five, five is just a lot. You you could have if you had a husband, you could have another kid, you could have two or three kids, and y'all would be straight still. But five kids is that's too much.

SPEAKER_05 26:33

I see, you gonna get somebody to write you. It's I think that, and this is just coming from someone that has one. I enjoy the intentional time that I have with her. Um I think that and I admire the people that do that because I think each child needs their time, yeah, needs their time with the parent or parents. It's important for just enrichment, learning. Um yeah, just all that. I don't know. I know somebody that got 15 kids, he's also a Debbie. So I just and I know him, I only know him by um my friend is one of the baby mamas. So yeah, so I and but you don't you can't you I don't know that you can pair well with that many kids, but yeah, somebody prove me wrong to I would love to hear hear the counter to it, but I don't know that you can parent well, and I know like even look at the Duggars. You ever watch the the um what's the show? It was a show back in the day, and there's lots of scandal, so I'm not getting to that, but there was this this family Jim Bob and and um it was on TLC. Okay, anyway, the Duggars. I forgot what the the uh the show was called anyway. They had a ton of kids, and they were Catholic, and they clearly didn't believe in birth control, and every child is whatever. And like as they got towards the end, their children started having special needs, and so to me it's just like um she she they said they're gonna have as many kids as God allows them to have, and I just like I need this man to pull out, he's like, pull out, listen, but like I'm trying to understand what what like birth control and stuff like in different religions that don't believe in birth control, like it's pull out birth control, like it's the pull-out, or you gotta nut in it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:43

I don't know. I I I gotta read the Bible. Something about don't drop your seed on the floor or something like that. I don't know if that's dealing with sex or not. I don't know. I gotta do more research on that, but I don't know. I can't I can't speak to that yet. I gotta do more research. All right, we won't speak more. I gotta do more research.

SPEAKER_05 28:59

But anyway, I just feel like just having a bunch of kids and not caring for them is wrong. I agree. I want to care well for the the scenes that I have out here in the world.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

I feel like the Bible agreed with that part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. Yeah. Hey, but you got your uh your bibliography with that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's 100% that can be proven. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:23

Wait, you just said, I'm not about to play it. You said bibliography. That's what it that's what it's like.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

Yeah, end of the paper, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's in the footnotes, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:35

Oh, bro. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

Yeah. 100%.

SPEAKER_05 29:40

But anyway, do you think this is what a lot of people say since we were just talking about the Bible, they were like, We in the end days, he's coming back. I always I I would always say like Jesus is on his descent, he on the descent. Like, is this because this can't be real? This can't be real life.

SPEAKER_02 29:58

I feel like Jesus is in the party, walking out the party, just daffing everybody up on his way. Like, yeah, all right, yeah, I'm gonna be I'm be back like 15 minutes. I'm at the like you know what I'm saying? I'll be back like 15, 15, 20 minutes. I'll be back, you know what I'm saying? Dapping up everybody leaving the party, you know what I'm saying? Coming up. I need to I gotta do something real quick. I'll be right back. You know what I'm saying? If a thousand years is a day for him, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 30:24

Like, it's it's hard out here. That's that's for sure. Adulting is the biggest scam of life. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

For me, I used to be adulting. I so when I was in like middle school, I used to go to the stores, the gas stations in my neighborhood, and they used to have all these colorful liquors. I mean, I can't wait till I'm 21 so I can drink all these. Colorful liquors. Yeah, they're just colorful bottles. I used to just be fascinated with the liquor bottles for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_05 30:51

That's fair. They do be displaying them in the back.

SPEAKER_02 30:53

You know what I'm saying? It'd be all pretty looking. I was like, I'm gonna drink that, I'ma drink this, I'm gonna drink that.

SPEAKER_05 30:58

Can't wait to have me some crown with that little purse, my little purse.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

Don't even drink for real no more. Like, I got all the I got all the the wherewithal to go to the liquor store and grab all the pretty bottles I want to, and it's just not a thing.

unknown 31:12

No.

SPEAKER_05 31:13

Remember Alize? I remember Alize.

SPEAKER_02 31:15

Did not taste good.

SPEAKER_05 31:16

No, no, no. Alizate, but then hypnotic.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

Hypnotic. Both of them did not taste good. Yeah, terrible, terrible drinks. Very pretty, though. Very pretty bottles. Look like it tastes good. They actually look like it's delicious, but they're not. Terrible. Not at all. Terrible.

SPEAKER_05 31:31

Remember that credible hook? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

Henny and a hypnotic. Terrible.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

Yeah. I've had a couple credible hooks in my day. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 31:43

I mean, I ain't you do you you be rocking your org on here? Because I was gonna say, well, you're a blank bank. Oh, yeah, I'm a sigma.

SPEAKER_02 31:49

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm a sigma. Yeah. Shout out to the brass. You know what I'm saying? Blue fi. You know. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to my boy. We got some boys coming out tomorrow. Shout out to y'all. I don't know if y'all. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to y'all. I'm gonna come, I'm gonna come message. They don't hear you. You know that. Yeah, they not they not listening to me right now, but you know, it's whatever. You know, shout out to y'all. I showed y'all.

SPEAKER_05 32:18

What you think, uh, because you speaking of Greek life, what do you think?

SPEAKER_02 32:24

Um people denouncing they letters and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 32:29

Yeah, like I think it's weird. I think it's weird because it's super weird. I don't want to say my org, because listen, I ain't got time.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

Because you know, we got rules, regulations, don't say your org, because y'all y'all got like actually y'all actually be following the rules and stuff, and y'all okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:50

You see, you see when you was like, yeah, shout out to the I was like, you know what? No, mm-mm, not today. Not today.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

I'm not gonna do that, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:58

Proud member, proud member, and multiple things can be true. Um, but I just think it's weird because I know like for my org, it's founded in Christian principles, and like you had all the stuff that you had to learn, and at no point in that did you feel some type of way, like when you were doing it.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

I'm not saying that these people didn't have these bad experiences, they they might have had these bad experiences.

SPEAKER_05 33:29

I I so wait, no, pause. I'm not talking about like the process, I'm talking about like when they talk about it's like worshiping and doing all that.

SPEAKER_02 33:38

That's what I'm saying. Like, um, you gotta think about it, right? So let's say you have a profyte who is like a demonic worshiper, right? At some point in the in in the chapter, people don't realize like, yes, we are like a part of a bigger group, but your um your experience is based off your individual chapter for the most part. Yeah, and and if you if you are a part of Greek life, you understand that every individual chapter is different, they're not the same. We're all part of one big group, but we're not all the same. We're completely different, right? Every chapter is different, but you know, from looking from the outside in, you don't know that. You're just thinking like, oh, this Greek chapter made her, made him do this. So all of them are like this. That's just not how it works. It's not every at all. That's just it doesn't work like that. Everybody is completely, we're we're uh individual companies under the umbrella of one big company, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 34:53

Basically, like franchises. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

Is that what like yeah, like a franchise, you know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. So, but if you got in your whoever's particular franchise in that particular chapter, if they have a member who is demonic, who who does like worship, you know, voodoo or the devil or whatever they're worshiping, you know what I'm saying? And they do put them through certain demonic uh rituals. That can happen. That I'm not saying that that particular thing can happen. But that's true, that's not everyone's story, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I always like to think of it like especially because at the time where I played, I was uh pleasure for my fraternity, I wouldn't say I wasn't a believer, you know what I'm saying? But I wasn't serious about my faith that I am now.

SPEAKER_05 35:55

Fair enough.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

Right?

SPEAKER_05 35:57

Because everybody learns and grows.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

You know what I'm saying? I was I was a baby Christian, like newborn Christian, right? At that time, a baby. And now where I am now, I get myself like a young adult now. You know what I'm saying? Like I turned 21.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 36:20

You know, I'm I'm in college, you know. I'm uh I'm doing my thing in the street. You know what I'm saying? I'm reading my Bible every most days, almost every day. Some days I miss because you know, something be going on, but I try to get to my Bible every day. I pray, I make sure I pray every day. You know what I'm saying? Almost done with the I'm almost done reading the whole Bible. You know what I'm saying? I only got I think I got like 400 pages left. I'll be done reading the whole Bible.

SPEAKER_05 36:49

You read it uh back or did you read it based on storylines or did you read it front to back?

SPEAKER_02 36:55

I read New Testament first, and then I went from New Genesis forward. New Genesis from Genesis forward.

SPEAKER_05 37:06

So back to my original question. Did you read it like you said so you read it from oh, so that means you read it from front to back? Like read it from Genesis to Revelation.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

No, no, I started with the New Testament first.

SPEAKER_05 37:19

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 37:20

Okay, and then I went back and wear it from Genesis forward. Understood.

SPEAKER_05 37:26

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:27

Okay, that was my bad. I didn't hear you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said New Genesis because I was thinking about the daycare at my church for whatever reason. That's real. Yeah, yeah. Um, but yeah, so like I'm glad that I became a Sigma. Because now the younger bros, they come to me when they have questions about God and they want to give their life to God. They come to me of all people, of all the things that you listen on this podcast, of things that I've done and all the craziness that has occurred in my life, these younger kids and my in my chapter are coming to me when they start to seek God. Now, had I never went, if had I had the the thought process of oh, it's the devil, it's the it's the you know, it's demonic or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Had I had that thinking process, how like social media tries to put on to everybody for whatever reason, some of these people in my chapter might not have been willing or been able in the position to give their life to God. I really do feel like God particularly placed me in my chapter to be the light if there were darkness, if there was darkness. That's real. You know what I'm saying? If there was darkness, I didn't see any darkness, I didn't experience darkness when I was coming up. But let's say there was darkness in my chapter. I was placed to be a light there.

SPEAKER_05 39:11

That's real.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

Purpose. I had purpose into that, not for Sigma, but for God. God placed me there. And I didn't even realize that until I got baptized a few couple years ago, and I started like being on my journey, and then once I posted that, and then I started reading, I started praying every day, I started listening to worship music, I started listening to gospel rap, like all this different, like a new world opened up for me. Yeah. And then like as I'm doing this, they're scene like AE kind of like he being different. Like he, you know what I'm saying? Like, he on he on something different, you know what I'm saying? Giving energy, you know what I'm saying? Like, I always been like, I was the married one, I got married earlier than everybody else, and stuff like that. So I always kind of like been on my path, you know what I'm saying? But like I was also out there with them doing it all too. You know what I'm saying? Oh, we know. Oh, we know. You know what I'm saying? So, like, for them to see my growth, and so now they're coming to me with it too. Like, you can't tell me that Sigma or whatever is bad. I feel like God takes everything and makes it for his good.

SPEAKER_05 40:29

I agree. I think when you think about um how God's people should be sprinkled and in every facet. Thank you. That I mean about it. But I I mean, but then I still want to be clear. I don't think that Greek life is bad. It's not bad or anything.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

Because I I just just that one example I gave.

SPEAKER_05 40:53

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 40:54

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 40:54

That could just really ruin someone's experience. That's true.

SPEAKER_02 40:57

That one example, like, yes, that can happen. I ain't never seen it happen, but it could happen, though. I'm not saying that it can't. There's hundreds of different chapters and from all the orgs that are around. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 41:13

Think about church though. I think in comparison, like you can go to church and there be some bad actors at church. Facts, false prophets, human people, you know what I'm saying? And that can um turn someone away from wanting to ever be Christian or whatever, or practice religion or anything, like to turn someone away just based on an experience.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

So I feel like people don't understand, like there's no problem with Alpha, Kappa, uh, Omega, Sigma, uh, IOTA, none of the fraternities, or the sororities, or whoever. There's no problems with any of the sororities, fraternities. The only problem is if you put that above God. And what people don't realize is that you can put anything above God. It don't have to be a fraternity. It could be your favorite sports team, it could be your favorite actor, your favorite singer, your favorite your uh Instagram. It could be your favorite podcast, it could be your favorite preacher, it could be your favorite gospel singer. It don't have to be what the world wants you to wants to tell you is evil. It could be anything. You could be you could make an idol out of anything.

SPEAKER_05 42:38

Preach, preacher!

SPEAKER_02 42:47

I just said, but I think people forget about that. Like, it don't have to be this like secret society thing, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 42:57

And think about it. The orgs are doing so much for the community, like, and and because you want to band together and create something and have a shared uh mission, vision, and goals, that doesn't make it bad.

SPEAKER_02 43:13

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 43:14

Okay, yeah, so anyway, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:16

I think that's the reason why it's not bad and why I do think it's weird, but I think the people that get on the internet and announce that they're denouncing and why they're denouncing, I think that's super weird. Because if you're doing it for God, you just do it to God and no one else has to know. They'll see by your actions that you're not messing with your fraternity of sorority anymore. Period. And if they ask you, this is why. You don't have to announce it to the public if you really truly uh want to denounce it.

SPEAKER_05 43:44

Can't you just stop paying dues?

SPEAKER_02 43:46

You know what I'm saying? People doing that on your period way, you know what I'm saying? People doing that, people are part of the fraternity not paying dues, like you know, that's not special. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 43:56

Like, why we gotta talk about it? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 43:58

And don't get me wrong. people like well i i announced myself publicly so i gotta denounce myself publicly okay like baby i didn't even know you was that yeah like okay just delete all your your all your pictures and all all your your stuff and take it out of your profile and everything no no one even you know what i'm saying like no nobody wanna nobody know that's all you did in the first place or you announced you made up you made a stat and you you posted pictures that's all you did in the first place okay period period and you know how far back then they see in your timeline man what or uh day look I sound old timeline is that what it's called yeah we turned 15 years yesterday so I am old i that's wild not yesterday or oh yeah what's today the other day I saw the other day happy uh happy sixth anniversary belated to you and your boys thank you thank you thank you yeah like my fraternity birth we getting married we having children you know what I'm saying like they going to church now like these is people I've done things with you know what I'm saying like they our lives have changed we are not these these we still sinners because we all sinners but we are not the sinners that we used to be ain't that isn't that what it's supposed to be about is growth once you know better you do better like why do people make such a they make such a a big deal I don't get it because like if I was to dedounce Sigma and not be a part of it for if I if God if God told me that for whatever reason yeah wouldn't tell anybody else it would it wouldn't change it wouldn't change my relationship with my fraternity brothers they still be my friends okay you know what I'm saying I still would treat relationship building yeah I would still treat them as good men in my life you know I'm saying absolutely it just would be about sigma I have a bond with these people now that that is more than the fraternity now that's just what initiated it you know that's what started it about you together exactly yeah it's wild yeah I just don't get people's like I don't get people's fascination with it for wanting it to be bad who aren't a part of it and then I don't maybe that's what it is you know what I'm saying like and I and I don't know they can't get in facts you remember you do you remember I'm about to shift but you remember uh when we used to be at the parties or when y'all well the sigmas right we used to throw the the the bangers in college I ain't gone like everybody knows that yeah we have the ZD baby you know ZD had it rocking what had it I wasn't even a party goer but I just know it was banging facts I was at like maybe two parties in college maybe four but still anyway um when the the locals is what we would call them put that money on the door trying to get in they would be so mad nowadays you know they shoot the shoot the party up because they're crazy but back then it wasn't none of that it was just they were just pissed parking lot they be mad because we couldn't let it wasn't that we didn't want to let them in it's just like we can't pass it you know it's just too many people we can't let y'all in before we let the students in then they're not gonna let us do our thing anymore you know what I'm saying because when we had a baddies in there and and the baddies was there you're right yeah they was they was in there flocking car freak'em dress you know what I'm saying we used to have we used to have y'all we used to have Beyonce freak'em dress parties you know what I'm saying back here y'all have volume we had a party one time it was at Wing Stadium I don't know how many people wing stadium hold but it's like a whole arena that they play soccer ice hockey everything we had about 1500 2000 people in this arena at one of our parties going crazy that is wild I made so much money that night because I set up a photo booth for people to take pictures and I was only I was only charging like five dollars and I made that is I made so much money that night oh man it was great we had like these Polaroid things where people could take them with them after we were done oh it was great oh man that's genius I love that love a good entrepreneur it was so great I wish stuff like that wish I was in in uh in college now I'm too old to be like kicking it with the college people now but yeah but you'll be like who that weirdo yeah like why you take a picture of us real old he got gray hair in the front yeah you're like I don't know but he's creeping me out like why he got a wedding ring on he don't do you even go here yeah that's that was genius though nah sigma's used through the banging parties my favorite part though um was when y'all would uh because you just had Kenny on here like recently yeah yeah or a while ago yeah but anyway when when Kenny and B Morrison they would um do the like the uh or even ride I think ride to like oh when all they used to do the promo videos oh yeah our promo video slap yeah yo we used promo videos for the parties yeah slap 100 Sigma week Sigma week we got a rollout for Sigma we got a promo video for Sigma week and we got a promo video for the the party at the end of Sigma week yeah we used to go hard for sure so what was that even like like where were y'all shooting what was the production like I want to know some of it so it just depends on where we was at or who had the idea or whatever we would just be in everyone's apartments or we'd go to like the hotel downtown or wherever the party was we'd go in front of the building for wherever the party was and we'd like we'd come up with some type of scenario because like Kenny Ra and uh B. Morrison because they are like movie directors now like that's what they do they had been doing that the whole time you know what I'm saying so we really had like scripts and was making like short skits and short movies for our Sigma weeds it was crazy.

SPEAKER_05 50:41

Think about how I mean I saw the end products I never really saw the behind the scenes but think about all that talent in in the room and like the just doing that I don't know I don't know that I see that as often maybe I'm a little disconnected because I'm older but yeah how it's not this it's not the same no it's not they're not uh I feel like oh there's there's a there's a there's a plus and a minus to this right they are like our fraternity our younger Neos they are definitely career driven like they're doing the principles like they're actually getting good grades graduating getting the good jobs doing the things that they're actually supposed to be doing us on the other hand we were more on the social side of the fraternity doing the things having a good time creating these grand experiences for everyone else you got to think people were coming from other campuses coming down all across the state of Michigan to come to our party you know what I'm saying yeah but so no it's not the same they don't have that they don't have I don't want to say they don't got the juice because that sounds disrespectful because they're like they're my little dogs but they don't have it's the rawness you know what I'm saying they don't have the same desires that we had I wish I had their principles that they have now how they're operating back now you know I'm saying instead of like trying to be Mr.

SPEAKER_02 52:21

Cool do you think that that is kind of leads back to what we were uh talking about earlier with um how things have changed like y'all like y'all was grinding for them videos like I I I'd have to imagine just based on technology and stuff whereas like now it's just it's different and they have different goals I guess I don't know they don't I don't think they care like we care like we cared about being like we run the yard like we cared about that you know I'm saying stupid as a 35 year old man now stupid doesn't mean nothing you know what I'm saying good nostalgia part of college that's that's fun I wasn't Greek in college so I always thought that like I always wanted to but I thought that was like the cool part like that's a part of the college experience so like you don't want to take that away or do we like what's the shift or what would that look like I feel like there needs to be balance you know what I'm saying okay it just needs to be balanced like on your week whoever whatever you're a part of aka Delta Sigma Gamma Row Zeta Phi Beta Sigma Alpha Kappa Q Iota when it's your week go hard for your week make that week that y'all doing something make that the grandioso how you say that word make that grandioso I don't know make that week the experience that you know I'm saying you gave campus the time of their life and then after that go back to business I feel like that's how it should be no there's prep think about it there's lots of prep there's lots of moving parts and so if you want it to be that grandioso theme then it takes prep I don't know I don't got the answer it's just it'd just be interesting to that's it'll be a good show I already I'm giving it to you uh to have like old head from Western or whatever school talk about their experience and then the young ones it'll start an argument and it wouldn't even that wouldn't be a good show we'd be out we we'd be out here arguing about they lame and all this y'all so whack y'all ain't you not wrong y'all ain't gonna do this y'all ain't do that yeah you you not yeah these Y and say wow you know what I'm saying they argue yo they argue with administrators what yo listen yeah yeah that would that nope can't go no further but in in theory it would be good but it wouldn't be we even argue with our old heads all the stuff we was doing we was arguing with them they was saying we was lame I'm like we got 2000 people at this party you ain't never had 2000 people at your party what you talking about we got big Sean on campus what are you talking about yo that was the best i there's still a picture of me my college roommate and uh big sean when he came to the burnhart center not the big ballroom the small ballroom oh okay okay okay do you remember that yeah we brought him to campus yeah yeah was it the Sigmas I think the Alphas brought him one year too but we brought him too one year no I'm talking about when Big Sean wasn't even like he wasn't signed or nothing I think that was the Alphas we brought him when he was like his first album came out okay yeah yeah that was cool that was some really cool things yeah like we had we had so like celebrities and like J.

SPEAKER_05 56:10

Cole to cap as bomb J Cole to campus.

SPEAKER_02 56:13

We had all these different people coming to campus and stuff and they be talking about y'all was lame like y'all wasn't doing this y'all never got freaking uh y'all never got LL cool j or nobody to come to campus my boy what you talking about like what Snoop Dogg never came to campus my boy you never got nobody you know what I'm saying you never got new addition of campus what is you talking about you know y'all was learning so yeah it it would all it would be is just our us arguing uh show so you don't know what that would work that's real see but you I think uh that's one thing that dudes do y'all do like is oh we talk shit yeah we gotta who the big dog who who I didn't think adrenaline our uh testosterone it'd be on full display you know what I'm saying on everybody these old men don't even got no more testosterone they be pulling it out from somewhere though they just witnessing uh black men banter I don't know it just make it gives me joy like it's just friendly banter yeah yeah yeah friendly banter yeah like uh when we argued about sports or something yeah we're not really mad at each other and we we actually having a good time yes yelling at each other about about where and then y'all start laughing about something you know what I'm saying yeah yeah yeah 100% yeah it's the energy it's kind of like it's uh it's kind of like black boy joy is just sound a little different um they need to bring that back black boy joy was like kind of fire for a little bit and then it kind of like faded out you know what I'm saying that needs to remember have you seen on Instagram when they had uh all those uh black men and like young men in suits and whatever yeah it was like making like a tunnel so they're gonna walk the class and all that they still do that which I think is really awesome that's dope so that goes back to fraternities and sororities when you think about like the mentorship my old heads like like just kind of teaching you how to move and like I mean you know we have parents but man think about having a bunch of TTs that care about you that love you that want to see like hey babe and well and we'll call you on your stuff which is cool too because it's like who gonna tell them yeah who's gonna tell them like okay well um if your baby come around and she don't speak I'm gonna start I was like and I you know I was like okay let me let me I'm gonna take it because at first I was offended and I was like hmm no that's fair yeah yeah I was like you know what that is and so then I I just I was like you know if you don't feel comfortable saying hi just wait yeah just weigh make sure that you're you're speaking because you know we were raised like that you acknowledge the adults in the room yeah for sure yeah because she like who are these people I don't know them and I think kids now too are because of the pandemic and everything they're not like us they're not as social as we were you know what I'm saying like we we actually went outside and played and made you actually went and made friends as a kid you know what I'm saying yo you you had to talk to somebody's mom first before you could talk to your like hi Mrs. Williams yes is Sharia home yep or can I speak to her is it okay may I yeah no these kids don't know they don't even know how to talk to adults mommy when you call what 100% I remember I was dating a girl or I was young so dating is a strong word but I had a nice girl that I liked and I used to call like hi Mr such and such I want to say her name because it's gonna give it away who it is I made up the last yeah yeah hi Mr. Such and such is such and such home Ernest I told you she'd call you when she freaked stop calling my house yo boy stop calling my house and as an adult man I don't have any kids but my nieces basically live with me if a little boy was calling my house phone from my niece I'd be like bruh don't be calling my house what is you doing like no no she can't have no friends what no so and then your parents didn't your business what it's crazy now these kids got cell phones so now I'll anyway oh on my niece's cell phone we got some program on it where like we see who's texting her we see we can watch her screen is it life 360? Is it that I think so yeah I think so and you can see like if they're in a car you know how fast they're how fast they're going where they're at yeah text messages what they searched on the internet if something on a FaceTime pops up that's not supposed to be FaceTime like if they think it's like nudity or something bad like fire or guns or whatever it'll shut the phone the FaceTime off oh yeah I need that for sure you gotta get make sure you let me know what that is yeah you got to get permission from your parent to get back on it.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:41

Yeah you can shut their phone off at a certain time you can shut certain apps off at a certain time like her phone is like CIA approved yeah that's dope I know um you know we do that on my daughters well we don't do it so much anymore but when my daughter was younger we would have her sleep timer like maybe it's eight or it's seven or I don't know what the time was but we would shut it off but it's nice to know that there's something like that on a cell phone because that's that's my biggest fear is like how know who they uh talking to you could block certain websites like you can do anything you will want as a parent you can do it on this thing I love that because you ever seen that meme on on Instagram where it's this little girl looking to the side in front of an old school computer and then and she says I'm getting ready to aim your husband AOL insta message or something I never seen that but it's I know so it sounds crazy but I think but I think about that like we used to be in aiming them chat rooms just free being other people what you know how many you know how many girls I didn't met on the internet who knows if they was real people or not what I got so many dick pics from random people I'm like yo this was this is that shit people getting arrested for it was happening in the aim rooms that's wild facts and people are strange so that's yeah you need to lock it down.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:11

I feel like as a parent and you got a kid especially having it sucks to say this but there's a different level of protection you have for boys than different girls I feel like right like you should it shouldn't be it shouldn't be like that right but like let's say if I have a son my son is gonna be able to do certain stuff my daughter not going to be able to do right fair and that but as far as the phone it would be the same not the phone I'm not saying that but I'm just saying like just certain protection you feel like especially as a man like you feel like I have to protect my daughter I have to protect my niece or whatever little girls around me period you know what I'm saying it could be a little random girl in the street you know I'm saying if something's happening like hey what what's going on you know what I'm saying I mean I think that's a part of being a man and I mean I'm not one so I don't I can't say that but I think that there's a level of like how society has taught you to protect women yeah you know um but for but that for the boy I I live by the rule like I need to let him do things I need to let him do dangerous things safely okay I need to let him do dangerous things safely like my nephew like I let him get off to a certain point because no one's gonna save him he he don't got no man that's gonna come and scoop him off his feet and take care of him you know what I'm saying that's real you know so he's gonna have to make it on his own too okay I take listen I hear you and I think um I don't know so men are in society are meant to or are brought up to protect and stuff but there are what I all I'm trying to say is there's women that ain't getting sweck off their feet.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:15

Oh yeah and they gotta be big dog.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:17

All right so we're gonna go ahead end the show there uh we want to thank everybody for coming out listening to the like we in person we want to thank everybody for listening to the podcast giving your hit up uh even though she probably not gonna do that but giving your hit up let her know where they can find you anything you want to promote let them know.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:38

All right well this is your girl V and no I'm not gonna give my hit up but I will just say and take this time to thank you for um allowing me to come on here and like I always say talk my shit um I always appreciate the uh conversation that we have because we be cutting up and laughing and just yeah all that so having a good time

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100%. I thank you, thank you, thank you. And I am your host five. You can catch me at notorious underscore b-i-g underscore e or hit up the podcast Instagram at the Cobacetic R, podcast TikTok, Cobacetic R, podcast Facebook, Cobacetic R. Season one is on YouTube. All of season one is on YouTube. Check out our videos on YouTube. Uh season two is coming soon. Um keep sending your emails to www.thecopacetic hour.com or straight to our email at the copacetic hour at gmail.com. Any guests, hosts, um, celebrities, whoever, if you want to be on the podcast, hit me up at the copacetic hour at gmail.com. Please keep buying your merchandise at www.thecopacetic hour.com. And as always, please walk by faith, protect your peace, secure your wealth, and define your destiny. This is the Copacetic Hour people.

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