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This week on The Copacetic Hour, we take on a controversial question: If you could erase one artist from ever making music, who would it be? Our answer might completely surprise you, or have you saying, “They Got It Right!”
We also answer a listener email from someone wondering what to do when their relationship isn’t perfect, but it isn’t toxic either. Is “good enough” enough, or should you keep searching for more?
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SPEAKER_07Yes, this is the Copacetic Hour. Copacetic is determining everything is fine, cool, and in excellent order. This podcast is an area for open discussion, but not for the weak hearted nor the simple-minded. And although we may not always agree, we always exemplify respect. But at the same time, nobody, and I do mean nobody, is exempt from getting these jokes. Everything is copacetic. Yes, the copacetic artist, everybody doing today.
SPEAKER_04Man, what's the deal, man? How you living, bro?
SPEAKER_07Chilling, chilling, chilling. That's what's up, that's what's up. So today's why don't you chill icebreaker is if you could block one artist from ever existing, who would it be?
SPEAKER_04What's going on, world? This is DQ. Um back with my guy five, man. Appreciate you for having me.
SPEAKER_06Facts, facts.
SPEAKER_04Um I think this this icebreaker question, this is an easy one for me. Um if I can block one artist from from ever existing, I still want you to be alive. I just don't want to hear your music. But I will have to go with sexy red, man.
SPEAKER_08Sexy red?
SPEAKER_04What I love you sexy, but I just feel like if there was a world that existed where we could filter your music to only go towards adults, that's different.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_09You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04But I think I think the content alone, man, it's like man, that shit is just it's just a little too much. And and maybe I'm only speaking now because I do have a daughter. A couple years ago I probably wouldn't even I probably wouldn't even I wouldn't have thought twice about it. But now you know what I'm saying, it's like I'm just conscious of so much stuff. Um not only for myself, but you know what I'm saying, the things that that's that's around her as well. So one thing that I can say, I I can say that that music is very, very damaging, man, to some of these young young girls. And it's like and I'm also speaking because I do work with young young girls, specifically adolescents.
SPEAKER_09Okay.
SPEAKER_04And a lot of that shit, man, they taking the school, they living it, they doing it. And I know for you, I can't assume, I mean I can't uh say it's true or not, but I'm gonna assume that it's it's entertainment value for you. It's a check for you, you know what I'm saying? That's how you feed your family, whatever.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04That's your name work. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I'm knocking your hustle. But I just think that a lot of these young girls, they take that shit literal and they go to school and they doing all the shit that you sing in this music. And it's the same thing with some of the uh the male artists, so I don't want to single out her. Same thing with some of the male artists who walking around talking about killing people, spinning on this, and getting get back for that, whatever, whatever. So I think it's all different, but I think that's sexy red shit, man. That shit, ugh, that's a whole nother level of tacky to be, man. I don't know, bro. That's a whole nother level of tacky to be.
SPEAKER_06The internet's gonna hate that one.
SPEAKER_04Oh, man. Don't kill me, man.
SPEAKER_06Listen.
SPEAKER_04I got a baby girl now, man. So I I don't want to listen to that shit.
SPEAKER_06Oh, that's funny. That is funny.
SPEAKER_07My uh my sister-in-law, it was her birthday the other day, and I sent her a birthday video with sexy red playing just because she is like the most like not gangster person ever. Like, no hood, no nothing in her body, not a single bone. And I I sent her that. She was like, Yeah, you're funny. She knows that would never that would never fly. That's hilarious.
SPEAKER_04Man, it's a crazy thing though, bro. I know some girls that like that worship the ground she walk on, bro.
SPEAKER_07And I'd be like, Yes, I know.
SPEAKER_04Damn, it's crazy. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_07Sexy react. If you ever listen to this, I talked about you on another show that one day you're gonna change your life and you're gonna be the biggest gospel artist that's in the world. I said that on this show. I don't know what episode it is, but find it. And I said that, and I believe that anybody can can change. So don't get discouraged by that.
SPEAKER_04Good luck. Good luck waiting on that, my boy.
SPEAKER_07Yo, and I am your host five. We want to shout out to uh to some locations. We want to shout out to Columbus, Ohio, uh, Boardman, Oregon, uh Sun Prairie, Wisconsin. We want to shout out to Brent Brent. I'm not exactly sure what what uh country that is. We want to shout out to Alder Grove, British Columbia. We want to shout out to Manassas, Virginia. We want to shout out to St. Augustine, Florida, Ching Mai, Ching, Chang Mai, Chiang Mai. We want to shout out to you. We want to shout out to Melbourne, Victoria, uh, Montreal, Quebec. We want to shout out to Binan Province of Laguna. We want to shout out to you. We want to shout out to Burbank, California, and shout out to Louisville, Kentucky. Thank you, thank you, thank you. We love you. We we need you listening to the Cobacetic Hour. We appreciate you. Listen to the Cobacetic Hour. Go to our YouTube, watch our shorts, watch our long form content on YouTube. Thank you. We appreciate you. Cobacetic hour could not be here without you. Thank you. I am your host, 5. Uh, for me, if I could see an artist just not exist in the artistry world, no music, it would be uh I want to say little Yachty, but I don't think that's who I'm talking about. That's how much I don't listen to this person's music. Uzi Lil Oozy, yes. Lil Oozy. All my friends are dead song. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Delete that nigga. Oh, I'm not supposed to be saying n-word. Delete him. Delete, delete, delete. Delete, delete, delete. Backspace, backspace, backspace. Escape, all of that.
SPEAKER_04What oozy do, man?
SPEAKER_07Bro, you haven't seen where he was like, I'm doing a a ritual right now. Oh, for the devil, y'all are going to hell. And and and everybody was like, What? No. He was like, it's too late now. You've been indoctrined for the devil. It's too late now. It's too late. You listen to the music. Now you now you wanna, whatever. No.
SPEAKER_01Hold on, let me explain something real quick. Before everybody starts screaming and saying, uh, like I told y'all earlier, you motherfuckers that entered the rapture. And if ain't nobody finding up to happen right now, obviously all y'all motherfuckers going to hell right with me. Let's get it. Oh, you already here. I'm so sorry. You can't get out. It's stopped. It's over. You heard the song a million times and you didn't even know. Let's stop, but I still love you.
SPEAKER_07I was like, Yep. I knew that song was terrible. I always knew you don't sing about all my friends being dead. I love my friends. My friends, I appreciate them. I knew I knew it was something wrong with him. As soon as I heard that song, I was like, Oh yeah, I'm not listening to that. I'm not listening to that. I'm not listening to nothing he put out after that. That was crazy.
SPEAKER_04That song could that song pretty catchy, though.
SPEAKER_07It is super catchy. The beat is fire. It is super saying fire, flames, everything. The beat is amazing. That's one of the best beats of all time, I would say. It could go up, it could go on a list for like best beats all time. It would be on the list. It would be.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, bro. Come to think about it, yeah. He was saying some wild stuff.
SPEAKER_07All my friends are dead? What?
SPEAKER_04I really can't.
SPEAKER_06I'm straight. No. Delete that. Delete him. I don't want, I don't want none of that.
SPEAKER_04Hey, Uzi, man. Uzi. Uzi was I just saw a clip of Uzi wilding out. Like he got his hair off.
SPEAKER_07I mean, I think it's just doing all types of little stuff. You know what I'm saying? Little demonic things. You know what I'm saying? Nah. And then disguising it under, oh, I'm just a rock star. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_04But that's I mean, if you think about it, bro, think about the times where we grew up, bro. We grew up all Marilyn Manson and all them crazy folks. They were doing the same thing.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I thought he I thought it was demonic back then, too. And I wouldn't even own my Jesus like that yet. I wasn't, I was like, nah, I don't do no no evil. That evil? No, we don't do evil. I never did evil. Uh uh.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's wild, man.
SPEAKER_07I I got I got uh He indoctrinating that in our community. That wasn't even a part of our community when I was growing up. We ain't do no evil. Not at all.
SPEAKER_04Not at all. Wasn't no devil worshiping happening. You just had to deal with it every now and then that you see the video pop up on MTV.
SPEAKER_07We wasn't doing devil worshiping in my in our community growing up.
SPEAKER_04That shit gets no spans around here.
SPEAKER_07Now all of a sudden everything is demon time and I'm a demon and all that. I'm straight on all that. I don't want to, I don't want nothing that's celebrating the devil. I'm straight. Nothing that's celebrate evil. Don't compare something good to evil for me.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, that's fair. I'm straight. That's real. That's real.
SPEAKER_07Not to be super super Christian, but the Bible literally says, like, people go start calling good bad and evil good. Hey, bro, so that's what's happening. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's the truth.
SPEAKER_04So sexy red, bro. That's why it's the same thing, bro. We can't pick and choose, bro.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it's not.
SPEAKER_04Oh, it's not we can't pick and choose.
SPEAKER_08Just because y'all like sexy red.
SPEAKER_04Hey, it's the same thing, bro. I promise you.
SPEAKER_08Oh man, uh, this is gonna go viral.
SPEAKER_04You're just on the other side of the internet, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_07Oh man, that is hilarious.
SPEAKER_04Same thing, bro. None of that stuff you talking about. None of that stuff you talking about totally, bro.
SPEAKER_07I'm not you don't even gotta. I don't believe in like there should be balance. Like, you need some of the world and some of God. I don't even believe in that. I believe that you are where you are at. You know what I'm saying? If if you got some of the world and some of God into you, that's where you at. You know, so I I just think you should be, as a as a believer in Jesus Christ, as a follower of Jesus Christ, you should be working your way towards Jesus Christ. You may, you'll never get to the end. There is no ending point for that. You know what I'm saying? Um I know pastors right now, if they song from back in the day come on, you know what I'm saying? They song from back in the day, come on. They like that song, you know what I'm saying? They they back in the day, music was just more like uh it was hidden. The the what the messaging of the song was hidden, you know what I'm saying? You know, Ron Isaac wasn't talking about, you know, putting her putting her legs between his between his head and doing the 360 on it and stuff, you know what I'm saying? But they were still talking about sex. I mean they just talk about sex.
SPEAKER_04They just yeah, they made they just made it sound sound good. Now it's just super vulgar right now. You know what I mean? I just felt like touching on what you were saying. And the only thing with artists, bro, I just feel like, especially big artists, I feel like you have a responsibility though. Um as far as the type of things that you put out there that carries the influence that it has. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to ever hear nobody say, well, I can't control what they're doing, or I can't you I mean, you really can. You you can for sure. You can. And you have a responsibility to look at it like that.
SPEAKER_07Not even that, even this podcast, like, that's why season six isn't like seasons one through four of five. If I'm be for real, like because I I came to a point like what if God go back and like I gave you all these people to listen to your show and look what you was telling them to do, or telling them doing this. I made you responsible and you used it irresponsibly. I don't want to do that. And I don't think it's I guess it's a difference too though, bro.
SPEAKER_04It's like I think it's appropriate to to share your story. I think it's appropriate to share your experience.
unknownYeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's a whole nother ball game when you're when you're putting a method out there that you're actively doing and you're almost being being a motivational factor to continue to do that.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I feel like everything has been, hey, this is where I'm at today.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But let me show you, let me show you what it took for me to get. These are some of the things that we put up here. Whether it's entertainment, whether it's trials and tribulations, like, you know what I mean? Because I feel like everybody has a story, but I also feel like that's kind of one of like the gifts that you do have when it comes to uh come to your podcast, is that you is that you you show the whole uh imperfections of your of your life up until this point. You know what I mean? It's like you don't hide in it. So it's not one of those things where you get famous or the podcast blow up and ten years later somebody trying to pull up some old uh nigga. I didn't talk about it already. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah. I didn't that happened already, my boy. They they know it's on the internet right now. It's on the internet, you know what I'm saying? Be my guess. Yeah, facts, facts, facts. But that is uh another reason why I want to get all these episodes out because I need people to see like progression. You know what I'm saying? Like you can you don't have to stay where you at. You don't have to you can you can have been wildin' and still progress. And I'm not nowhere near where I want to be, you know what I'm saying? As far as my my walk or just being a man, you know what I'm saying? Cause like there is a lot that I need to be doing more now, and I'm I'm still progressing, but like I'm farther to where I want to be than where I was back then, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that that's real. I mean, that's commendable too. I just feel like I mean you touched on it earlier, that walk to where you want to be, it's a it's not a finish line. It's no finish line. You know what I'm saying? You don't get to a point and just be like, okay, this is the man I always envisioned myself to be, and I can sit back down and relax right now. No, this is gonna because every stage of life that you in is gonna be another obstacle. It's gonna always be progression. So it just I think that the older you get, the more mindful you have to be as far as the weight that your words carry, the weight that your actions carry. Right. And and also, man, but we have a responsibility to to give back to these youth, bro, and make sure that they, you know what I'm saying, that they have um the resources and the tools that we didn't have. You know what I'm saying? I would hate to have I would hate to have a kid or or a young man have to learn that have to learn at the same projectory that I did. Cause I learned late. You know what I mean? Me too, yeah. I want to have those tools and those resources early as a young game. I'm still learning. So you can't, you know what I'm saying? Okay, I'm prepared for this, man. But you know how much shit I wish I was I was prepared for? What?
SPEAKER_06100%.
SPEAKER_04And it ain't nothing I can do about it now. But the only thing I can do is make sure that somebody else is prepared for it. You feel me? So I think that's kind of why um why I get so harsh on some of the music. And don't get me wrong, I I ain't sitting on this uh podcast trying to make something like I don't listen to. I listen to I listen to some bullshit. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07I listen to it. It it don't hit me, it don't hit me the same way it used to, though.
SPEAKER_04It don't hit me the same way. It one, it don't hit me the same way. Yeah, and also I I don't have the same interest in it as well. You know what I mean? Facts, facts but I know if I'm if I'm going to the gym, I might put on, you know what I'm saying, some I'm gonna put on some future.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And if you know me, you know I used to bang future all the time. Like I it's hard for me to listen to some of this shit now. You know what I mean? Because it's just I it just don't it don't give me, but I think that's where the whole progression piece comes from.
SPEAKER_09That's why.
SPEAKER_08Here we go, man.
SPEAKER_04Another show for another.
SPEAKER_07Like uh today, I told one, you know, one of our young dogs, one of the our younger sigmas, he uh he fixes cars. I was like, man, I'm proud of you, man. That's what's up. You doing your thing, man. Why he was like, hey, I appreciate that OG.
SPEAKER_08I was like, OG, wait, what are you talking about?
SPEAKER_07You're OG, man.
SPEAKER_08OG, I'm big bruh. I ain't no OG yet, man. What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_04Hey, hey, embrace it, man. Embrace it. OG, I was like, whoa, when did we get here?
SPEAKER_07Oh, that was funny. That was funny as a shit too funny. That's like the other day. Something happened and they was like, yeah, come kick it, come kick it. So I was like, all right, I'll come kick it with y'all. I go over there. They in like an apartment drinking, they got girls. How we used to do 15 years ago. Yeah, I'm saying, or however long before when we crossed. How we used to do back in the day, I was like, yeah, I got a wife now. I don't really want to be here.
SPEAKER_08I don't really need to, you know.
SPEAKER_07I show my face to y'all, you know what I'm saying? Here go a bottle. I don't really want to be here with y'all. Y'all, y'all ain't got no comfortable furniture in here. Y'all, y'all living, y'all living the the young adult life that I don't want to live no more. I'm sorry, guys.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Let's go to lunch. Let's do something like that. Let's let's go, I don't know, let's go do something. Let's go to uh top golf or something.
SPEAKER_04Man, you know what I realized, bro? Especially with dealing with like some of the younger cats, and I'm talking like early 20s, early to mid-20s. Bro, you really gotta meet them where they at, bro.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Because if we if we meet them and we had them meet me where meet them where we at, they're like, oh, these old boring as hell. But it's like facts. But it's like I know that I gotta meet them where they at while still maintaining certain boundaries, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just I didn't want to be in there with just all these young girls, you know what I'm saying? Like that was just that's a little wild, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04But you gotta think though, when we came up not even putting no names out there, how many times that a lot of those overheads came to where we was at and didn't have those boundaries? Didn't have those seven boundaries.
SPEAKER_08That's why we had it popping. Yeah, yeah, we had it popping. If I'm gonna be for real, had it been popping, how we had it popping up. Let me just see what these what they're doing in here. Let me let me let me let me there.
SPEAKER_04They had it popping. But a lot of them niggas had wives for a minute too. A lot of them have wives and crib kids at the crib. So it's like, but I think um a lot of times, but them little niggas, but they be needing that positive reinforcement from like niggas like the yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah. I see when he was like, Yeah, let's hang out. I was like, we can do that, bro. Real talk. Let's do that, you know what I'm saying? But so yeah, but they they ain't have it popping to where like I was impressed, like, oh okay. I was like, no, this sound like this look like it'll get me in trouble. Ain't enough people in here, so I could just be in the be in the corner somewhere chilling, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, this is this a little too limited, yeah. You know, too intimate. I can't do it.
SPEAKER_07This this was uh this was a blue light special back in our day.
SPEAKER_04This a little too intimate for me, man. I can't do this with my boy.
SPEAKER_07Oh, it's not yeah, yeah. I'm straight. Oh, let me guide y'all boys be cool. Y'all can y'all can have that. That's yours now. Y'all can you know what I'm saying? That bottle, y'all can have that. That's yours. Y'all good, yeah. You know what I'm saying? But you know, shout out to my all my young dogs, you know what I'm saying? So my young dogs. But yeah, like invite me when y'all got something popping. Don't invite me to the kickback. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So you can't do the kickback.
SPEAKER_07I need to be able to just chill out, like, look, they're having fun. Some strolling or something. Let me see everybody stroll. I can hop in a little stroll line once or twice. You know what I'm saying? Because I can't jump around no more. I gotta do the slow strolls. I learned that the other day. I went to a school and we talked to the kids about like college and everything. And it's like, yo, y'all gonna stroll? So we strolled. Some of the girls I went to high school with, middle school, where they recorded and I saw myself stroll. I was like, Yeah, you ain't got it no more, my boy. Hang it up, my boy.
SPEAKER_08Hang it up. All that jumping is over with.
SPEAKER_04I got about one, I got about one stroll a year, man.
SPEAKER_07Hang it up. You gotta do you gonna have to stick to the slow strolls.
SPEAKER_04I keep that part for for those special occasions, whether it's a homecoming or a wedding or something. I got one a year.
SPEAKER_07You gonna have to stick to the slow stroll. Stroll, you can you can slide a little bit still, but all that jumping, nah, you done with that.
SPEAKER_04Man, just think about it, it was a time, bro. We had strolled for two, three hours of the party, bro.
SPEAKER_07It was a time when I was doing double spins.
SPEAKER_08You never seen a 300, 400 pounder do a double spin before. What?
SPEAKER_06Oh man, that's funny.
SPEAKER_07All right, so we're gonna jump right into uh our email of the week because I believe we didn't do any emails last week, so we're gonna jump right into some emails. Dear Copacetica, I need some advice. I've been with my partner for a few years, and while they're loving, loyal, and supportive, there are some issues we've talked about repeatedly that never seem to change. Whether it's finances, motivation, or following through on promises, I feel like I'm always waiting for things to get better. Every time I bring it up, they say they're working on it. And I see effort for a little while, but eventually things go back to the way that they were. I don't expect perfection, and I know relationships require patience and grace, but at what point does patience become settling? There hasn't been cheating or abuse. I'm just tired of feeling like I'm carrying the weight of our future alone. How do you know when someone needs more time to grow versus when it's time to accept that this is who they are? Should I stay and keep believing things will change or should I leave? Dear Copacetic Hour, please help. So give me your thoughts. What do you think?
SPEAKER_04Well, first of all, I appreciate the the um listener for um being vulnerable and talking about the relationship. I do feel like it's a lot of missing things in it, though. Um as far as that timeline, you know, when you talk about um using words like always, or he always does this. Or so it's I just feel like I mean you gotta be very specific when it comes to some of those situations and try not to have it be so broad. Um because what always may look like in you to you, and it may look like I'm doing I'm doing this stuff all the time. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I do feel like it's some it's some gaps in their communication. Um with her feeling as strong as she is, as as far as questioning about the relationship, I do think it's time for them to kind of sit down with a mediator though, to talk about the relationship. Because it sounds like it's something that they that she's been bringing up quite a few times based on based on the call. I mean, I'm sorry, based on the email. It's not like it's something she's been bringing up a few times that they haven't really got far on. You know what I mean? So maybe he needs to hear from somebody else because it it could be sounding like just like white noise to him at this point, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04My wife again, she just she just nagging again, whatever. You know what I mean? So I think that she has to figure out a way to marry, but yeah. Okay, yeah. You said she they're not married.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I don't think so.
SPEAKER_04Okay, yeah. I think I think she needs to figure out a way to kind of how can she convey this message to him? Um I guess in a different way, because whatever she's doing right now, he's not receiving it. You know what I mean? So if she feels like she needs help doing that, I would I would encourage them to kind of sit down with a counselor to do that. Um But I think when you continue to have these conversations with your partner all the time, how she describes all the time, whatever that means and whatever it looks like. But I feel like if you're finding yourself continuing to have these conversations all the time, you do gotta start seriously asking yourself, like, is this the expectation of our relationship going forward? You know? I just have to expect it. This is just one of his flaws that he will have. And then you gotta ask yourself, is this something I can continue to continue to live with for the rest of my life? You know what I mean? So I think it's a um it's it's a few things that that she can uh do to kind of trigger this whole thing out. Um I think the beauty of it though, nothing in that email showed me that the the relationship was worth ending.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um in my opinion, because I know Timeout.
SPEAKER_07How did you this how did you say, why do you say she's a woman? Is it just the way the email was wrote? Because it it doesn't say that they're a woman. It doesn't say it was a woman. Is it the way just the email was wrote that makes you feel like she was a woman?
SPEAKER_04Um, you know what, man? I could be that could be my own personal traumas, bro, from just thinking about like both being both being vulnerable, because it's like, and I'm saying that because you typically don't hear men say say some of these things. Yeah, yeah. So um, and that may be the whole gender role of certain things. Like typically when you hear somebody complain about some of the things that that this person is describing, yeah, it's kind of easy to it's the it's the woman, right? Right. Right though. Damn.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04That kind of changed. That changes it though.
SPEAKER_07I was I was hearing you saying, I was like, I agree that it does sound like that, but we don't know that it's a woman or not. Like again, all emails to the Copacetic are anonymous, so we don't know unless you give it away, we don't know your gender, your name, nothing. You know what I'm saying? And even if you write in with your name, your personal email, I would never say your name on the show unless you tell me to. But it does sound like it does sound like that. But what if it's a guy and he's like, what would be is your does your perspective change if it's a man that wrote that email?
SPEAKER_04Man, this is gonna be controversial, bro. I don't know if I want to say. Jeez. Man, forget it, man. This is a Cobacetti hour. Um I think it changes, bro. Okay, what changes? What changes? Unfortunately, I think it changes.
SPEAKER_08You're acting soft. You need to pull your buy your bootstraps.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, let me go ahead and strap him up, man. I say it changes for several reasons. Um, I meant he was acting soft the the He's acting soft for sure, but I do I do feel like it changes because it's the role of it's the job of a man to find a wife, right?
SPEAKER_05Right. If you want one.
SPEAKER_04If you want one.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, if you want one.
SPEAKER_04In this situation right here, it sounds like it's not the wife that he wants. And you're gonna, you're, you're going, so you're trying to build a bear at this point.
SPEAKER_09Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Keep lacking some some essential skills that that I feel like, I mean, she is who she is. And I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it a beam. My personal experiences, I feel like men are more motivated to change for a woman versus a woman changing for a man.
SPEAKER_07Okay, okay. I feel like yes, but there are certain principles that go along with that. I would say, in my experience, I don't want to generalize nobody so they don't kill us, but like if a woman isn't Oh, this is gonna sound real bad. I don't even know if I should say that. But you better be careful, man. Okay, if a woman is more attracted to the man than he is attracted to her, I feel like the woman is more motivated, right? Um, but if the man is more attracted to the woman, then I feel like he's more he's more motivated. So it just depends on who is the most attracted to the other person.
SPEAKER_04That's that's fair. I I'm gonna go. I landed that one good.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I landed that one good.
SPEAKER_04Why you say I think a lot of men motivation um a lot of a lot of the motivation of man definitely comes with the attraction piece. It comes with the tangible things, things that we can touch and see and feel, right?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Where a lot of the motivation comes from a woman, a man's mindset, the way he responds to certain things, his problem solving skills, things that you typically can't see, right?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah, right.
SPEAKER_04So um I mean, supposedly. But yeah, that's why that's why I say it changes. I it doesn't change one way better for the man versus one way better for the woman. You know what I'm saying? I think it requires change, changes on both ends. I just think the change looks looks different depending on if this is a man or a woman.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_07I hear what you say. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like as if this is a woman writing in about a man, if that man is looking for a wife, you expect him to change, right? You know what I'm saying? You expect him to do the things to find a wife, find a good thing, you know what I'm saying, to be the leader of your household. Like you expect him to grow. And I get that. That is true, right? But if it's a man writing in this about a woman, I don't know if you expect her to like I don't know if you can expect her to change, you know what I'm saying? Like you want her to, right? You wanted her to grow into being, you know, however you see a w a wife to be for yourself, but I don't know if I I don't know if women grow into that or not. Like that's a that that might be a good topic. Like, do women grow into being the wife a man wants when they're not that person in the in the moment they meet? Did that make sense? You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. No, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_07I feel like men, like, you're expected to like grow up and mature and to like, if you need to change for this woman that you want, you need to change for the woman that you want, right? Or obtain whatever she feels that you do that she desires for you to become her husband or whatever. Because you at the end of the day, you gonna get on one knee and ask her to be your wife. But I don't I've never even thought about like do women if you want this man to be your husband, do you change who you are and become this person to be the wife of someone you think is worthy of being your husband?
SPEAKER_04Like I think I think it works both ways. I I think the man and the woman uh both have a responsibility to change. Me speaking at me speaking as a man, I can't speak for a woman, I'm not a woman.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But me speaking as a man, I don't want to be with somebody that doesn't motivate me to want to change to be a better person.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, that's good. That's good. You know what I'm saying? Man or a woman, that doesn't matter. Yeah. Man or a woman. Right. You're right. That's not even a topic now.
SPEAKER_04I don't want to be with somebody. I don't want to waste my time with somebody. There's not there's nothing that you're giving or showing me that's that's that's that's that's not motivating me to change.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Be a better person. Nah, that ain't the person for me. Yeah, yeah. But but what I do have to say, I also don't feel like men get the same patience and grace that a woman gets to change certain things. So something that stuck out in the email, and correct me if I'm wrong, I might have misheard it, but she she this person complained about finances, this person complained about like following through on promises, and this person talking about something about motivation. I'm taking I'm taking it the person may not be motivated or ambitious. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07Those are the thoughts.
SPEAKER_04I don't I don't think men get the same patience and grace that a woman gets when it comes to some of those specific changes. Especially finances in the climate that we live in today. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's almost frowned upon for a man to it is frowned upon it's not almost frowned. It is, you know what I'm saying? Like, especially when it comes to finances, are you broke, everything is broke this, broke this. Just because we live in such a transactional world right now, I don't feel like men get the same patience or grace to be with somebody or to um to get themselves put in put in a position where they can, you know, be in a good space financially or anything like that. I just don't feel like they I don't feel like they do. Where a woman has that same patience, a woman gets that that patience from a man. A woman gets that grace from a man because why? We're motivated by she's bad, you know what I'm saying? Or she look good or just this and this.
SPEAKER_07Or even like who she is, you know what I'm saying? She's smart. Right, she's smart, she's nice, you know, great nurturer, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Good mothers, things like that. Man, women, it could be, listen, it could be Master Splinter walking in this bitch. As long as she got a bag, we good. You know what I mean? Well, he he he'll look cute, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_07But you're right, but that's because men aren't motive. A good man, whether broke or not, he's not motivated by a woman's how much money she got. Like, he's not more attracted to her because she has money.
SPEAKER_04Which is why broke men don't mind taking a shot at women, because it's not in their eyes, it's not about the money.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it's not about the money. Yeah. When you look for a wife, you're not thinking about how much money she got. Correct. That never even hit my. Maybe it should, maybe it should. As an adult now, maybe you should think on that level. You know what I'm saying? But initially, like, if she don't look good to me, it don't matter how much money she got.
SPEAKER_04See, with me, I'm thinking, I'm thinking beyond that now. Um, I am a little older now, and I'm and I'm not and I'm currently not married, so I'm thinking about some of those things now. But it's still, it still has never been about how much money they got. It's more so about their decision making when it comes to finances.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Uh right there, that's gonna affect me. How much money you have, eh, it may or may not affect me.
SPEAKER_09What you doing with your money?
SPEAKER_04What you do with what you have, yeah, yeah. That's that's gonna be that's gonna be huge, you know what I mean? Right, right. I think um I think those are some of the things that you really have to look for. Um I mean, because look, looks fade, man. Like looks fade. Like everybody wants the latest and greatest. And Instagram is just a highlight tape, and you just see every bad thing in the world. Everybody bad, everybody rich, everybody got it. But it's like, man, behind closed doors, bro, oh, that shit's fake. You know what I mean? So it's just like you gotta have certain characteristics about yourself. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_07Think about how many like famous or wealthy women meet a man at the coffee shop working at Starbucks, and that becomes their husband. Yeah. That's like that's super rare, right? That's not a that's not a thing. Like, not at all. That's not a thing. Like, I don't know. I can't name a per a celebrity or a rich individual, unless like Bezos' wife in a divorce got, you know, so much money or whatever. But even then, like she what's she doing now? I think she got a new husband now, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Giving away money. I know that's what she's doing. She's gonna be able to do it. She's giving away.
SPEAKER_07You know what I'm saying? Oh. But like her situation differed because now she got so much money, she can she can go meet a man at the coffee shop. And that could be her, you know, her little friend or whatever. Because that's how much money she got now. But you don't hear about like celebrity women, celebrity artists, you know, meeting some random man somewhere and like elevating him, and now he's a celebrity now, too. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't you don't hear about that happen too often. Like the first thing for me that comes to mind is uh and no shade to her or nothing, because I think she's super talented actually, is um Karuchi, right? Like before she started dating Chris Brown or whatever, like she was just a regular beautiful person in the world, you know what I'm saying? And now, like, she is a celebrity now, like she has marked put her mark on the world as a talented per celebrity who has talent in this world, you know what I'm saying? But initially, not saying she wouldn't have got there, you know, cause with her talent, because she does have the talent, but like initially that came because she was dating someone who was famous, you know what I'm saying? I can't think of a man who was dating somebody famous and got like extra famous after that. Like, they may have got some little celebrity or whatever, but like it doesn't last for men, I feel like.
SPEAKER_04I think that right there kind of lets you know the motivactor, the motivating factors with men on choosing they women, bro. Because it's like, think about all the wags, bro, all the wives and girlfriends of celebrities, athletes, or anything like that. One thing they all got in common, 95% of them, they they look good. They look good.
SPEAKER_07Uh that number is high as a mug, because that is not the case. I would say like 80%, 75% of them look good.
SPEAKER_04Bro, but the ones, the ones that don't, I guarantee you, they was with them before they got before they uh before they got famous.
SPEAKER_07Uh guarantee you, bro. In college, yes. The potential to be famous, I would say.
SPEAKER_04Man, listen. But not everybody's from high school. They had no money and and they niggas, they just they just landed a good dude, bro.
SPEAKER_06No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_04Bro, I'm talking about anybody that got that got bred, that got famous after the fact and got a new chick, bro.
SPEAKER_07Oh, she bad.
SPEAKER_04You really find one, you you look at it, you be like, oh, she oh she's a she's a doctor, or she's this, or she she got something going on. It just they just a pretty girl, bro.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, you're right. After you got the money, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So it's just like it goes back to like the things that motivate men when it comes to living for a woman versus a woman, living for a man. I mean, that's a living, that's a living and bleeding example right there.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Because that woman, he she she wants to be with that person. Why? Because he's famous, he got bread, he's financial, and that man, he wanted because why? She bad.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I mean, so it's just like that's why I say man, like you, this person, whoever you is, is your partner a good partner person? Because nothing in that message showed me that they was worth ending a relationship for.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. They not you literally said they're not cheating on you and they're not abusing you. So at the at the very baseline, is they have some type of morals to where they're not an abuser and they're not a cheater. They're loyal and they're not an abuser.
SPEAKER_04I don't want to set the bar to only be that, but today that's a huge, that's a huge.
SPEAKER_07From what I've been hearing stories from women is that they be having a lot of issues with men these days. And which is sad. I'm like, whoa. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Again, bro, again, like I say, especially having a daughter, I don't want that to be that has to, that has to be, because those things shouldn't be happening regardless.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it shouldn't be happening, that should just be a part of it. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04That should just be a part of it. So I don't want to set the bar at that, but I also got to be mindful that if if you have that, you already in a top 10 percentile of women, because everybody else don't have that. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So what you talked about, you talked about financial issues, right?
SPEAKER_09Right.
SPEAKER_04Hey, financial literacy classes, do something. Y'all can do this stuff together. You know what I'm saying? You can you can become better, you can become more financial literate, right? You talked about um not following through on promises. You y'all can work on those things too. Yeah, those are things you can work on.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04These are certain things that you can work on, bro. Being more motivated, those are certain things that y'all can work on together.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_04Nothing, nothing in that email said anything about him disrespecting you, him or her disrespecting you, him or her cheating on you, him or her abusing you, him or her having positive relationships with your family, any of that. You know what I'm saying? You didn't discuss any of those things, so it's like nothing in there is saying this is it. I didn't hear anything in that email saying that we tried X, Y, and Z. So you didn't, so in my my opinion, you didn't you didn't utilize all your resources before you before you decide, okay, you know what, this ain't it. When I talk about utilize some of those resources, I don't know if you're going to church, talk to your pastor. Um, you know what I'm saying? I don't know how you felt about counseling.
SPEAKER_07Came to the wise one, can to five. Hey, to the wise one.
SPEAKER_04And hey, talk to each other. Because I guarantee you, I guarantee you, him or her probably don't know you feel like that.
unknownTalk to each other.
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_07So yeah, um I agree with that. Um not a be an abuser and not being a cheater can't be baseline. That is so that sounds terrible. It it sounds terrible, but it sounds good all at the same time. You know what I'm saying? Right. It sounds good all at the same time. Um and honestly, I've come to the I don't want to discuss marriage because I've just come to the realization like I don't want to discuss marriage with single people because single people don't. Understand marriage, like they have an idea of it, but like there's an attack when you get married that you can't fathom until you get married and go through it. Even like young, even like young couples, like my boy, like you just don't know yet. You know what I'm saying? Or my girl, you just don't know yet. Like marriage is like it is, it's it's it's amazing and tough all at the same time. It's a beautiful catastrophic moment, all in one. You know what I'm saying? Amazing moment all in one. So I don't want to even I kind of don't want to discuss that about you guys getting married or anything, because y'all not at that point. Um, but I would say as you're dating, you you can assume roles, you know what I'm saying? And your role in a relationship, if it be if it does become long long term, could be the the financial planner. Like you could be the one that that has control over the finances, and that and that may not be what you want for your life, so and that and that's fine, you know what I'm saying? But that might be something like that might be your role in the relationship because you're better at it. Um the point of being in a relationship uh to get in with somebody is to get with someone who's strong in all the areas where you're weak. You know, that would be ideal in a in a lot in most situations. Um that way you go together because all it is a relationship is is teamwork. That's basically what it is community. Everything is about community. So if you feel like your community can't uh progress with this person, then hey, chuck the deuces. You know what I'm saying? But if you if you feel like how DQ said where you haven't been through enough scenarios, you haven't had enough attempts at trying to get this going or whatever, then you need to try. You need to do something. Because I be looking at all my ex, all my exes like, and they they baby daddies, you know what I'm saying? A six, seven baby daddies, they ten baby daddies, and I'd be like, look, you could have had me. Look at you now.
SPEAKER_04You could have, you could have had you, yeah. You a nut, man. They're gonna be mad about that one. No, but it I think it's one thing in there that we still gotta address, man. What I did hear say, like, hear this person say, Man, when it's like enough, enough. Like, when is it like when is enough enough that the link or like when is enough enough? And I just feel like for me, enough, enough becomes when you find yourself changing for for the worse. You are watching a master at work. Right. That's good. Um I don't think ever be put in a situation where you find yourself like consciously changing who you are as a person. Yes, you have to change who you are to become a better partner, but when you're finding yourself changing for the negative, you're not liking a person that you're seeing anymore due to the relationship, yeah, then time to kind of start exploring some different uh options for sure.
SPEAKER_07Hmm. I like that. Especially like um if they're just deliberately ignoring your concerns, you know what I'm saying, that might be a time where it's enough. Like you don't even care that I feel this way. You know what I'm saying? And maybe you feel like that now, you know what I'm saying? Because you're saying like it happens for a little bit, then it changes. And you didn't say how how many times it's happened, you know what I'm saying? So we we just going, you know, out the air or whatever. But if this has happened, you know, this has been going on for years, then yeah, it might be, you know what I'm saying, time for you to, you know, hang it up or whatever, or at least give your final ultimatum, like, hey, this needs to change or we need to be done. So just tell me now if you can do it, because if you can't, then let's just go our separate ways and and you know, not waste each other's time anymore. You know what I'm saying? And that might be like a final ultimatum you need to make, but you need to make that that clear, like this has to change.
SPEAKER_04I'm not really one to be putting those threats out there, so be mindful if you put that out there to your partner that if they don't change, you know what I'm saying, you're gonna have to walk, be ready to stand on that. Because um if you don't, you putn after putting those threats out there, this person, they're not gonna take you seriously at all after that. You know what I mean? So um just be ready to stand on that. And standing on that may mean walking away from the relationship. Facts. You know what I mean? Gotta be white.
SPEAKER_07And you walking around this relationship might be that little straw that they needed to change. Okay. For sure. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_07That might be that last little, you know, broke the camel's back, whatever you say, however the saying goes.
SPEAKER_04I think that right there is gonna show you what type of person you got. If the person really is invested in you, like you think you are with this person. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_07But don't don't do it like on some playing games. Like, if you do that, you need to like that need to actually be your decision. Not doing it to see if they uh if they gonna change. Don't do that. Like you need to do that and then move on to something new. Like, you need to like actually try to find your person. But don't play any games, you know what I'm saying? Because games don't work out in your favor because to me, you being disingenuous. So it's never gonna work out in your favor. If you do something, you need to, like he was saying, you need to stand on it. Don't don't be looking for you know a scenario, because that scenario is not gonna happen nine times out of ten. Facts. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04So, Fo, I got a question for you, man. Um, just kind of bridging off um the email. Have you ever had a personal situation um kind of similar to this, where you would kind of question, is this a person for you? How did you handle that? And like, do you feel like you handled that differently back when you were younger versus how you would handle it now?
SPEAKER_07So when I was younger, because I got married so young that a lot of my decisions weren't like the most mature, I would say. Um because you know, I was before I even started dating my wife, you know, personally, I was like, hey, should I date her or should I date her? You know what I'm saying? Should I be with this girl or should I be with this girl? And um knowing the other girl, we made a good decision. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Uh but I think just something personal in our relationship, I think that so like when I first got together, I'm a I'm a big man, I like to eat. My wife couldn't cook at first.
SPEAKER_04And like how you put that at first.
SPEAKER_07My wife could not cook at first, and that was like uh that was an issue for me. I'm sorry. Uh call me fat all you want. I'm fat. Yes, I am. But hey, that was an issue for me. Like, you gonna have to learn how to cook. Now you ain't gotta be making because I grew up eating Mexican food, you ain't gotta make the Mexican food, you know what I'm saying? But you gonna have to learn some dishes if you want us to be together. And she knew that too. Like later in our relationship, she actually knew like I have to learn how to cook, or he's not going to want to be around like that because I can't feed him. You know what I'm saying? And ironically, if you know my wife, if you listen to this podcast, you're an avid listener, I'll be doing all the cooking now because she always got some some stuff going on. But there was a point in time where she did cook every day, and she had learned how to cook. Like, she's done whole Thanksgiving meals, you know what I'm saying, for our family and stuff. Like, she she learned how to cook, and that was that was something like I let her grow into, you know what I'm saying? Because she knew that like as shallow or whatever it may seem or whatever. I'm just this is just one story that I'm giving y'all, but that's something she knew that was that would be required of her uh going forward, you know what I'm saying? And she gave me some bad meals, listen, uh, emailer. Let me tell you. There have been bad meals in this relationship. Too salty, too sour, too sweet.
SPEAKER_04Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you gotta be careful. You gotta you gotta go home tonight, man.
SPEAKER_07There have been some meals. Uh they have not been the best, but I l we got through them, you know what I'm saying? That sounds so bad. We got through them.
SPEAKER_04I tried to save you, man. Yeah, I might get in trouble for that.
SPEAKER_07But she is an excellent cook now, you know what I'm saying? When she does cook, she is excellent. She she has she's so good at cooking now that she has like signature dishes now, right? So like even her brother would be like, hey, can you make me your whatever her signature dishes that she wants to make at the time? Like she has signature dishes that she makes that people request of her to make. That's how good, and people ask for her recipe and stuff like that. That's how uh motivated she was and has and talented she has gotten at cooking food. So if uh so everything I said earlier about like, I don't know if a woman changes to get married, I I I lied. I just wasn't thinking clear enough. I you know I'm saying I wasn't thinking about in food, but but yeah, so it works on both ends. Your partner, man or woman, or whatever, will uh they'll adapt to what you need of them uh if they want you.
SPEAKER_04Man, you know what, man? You just made me think about something, man.
SPEAKER_07If they can, they'll adapt.
SPEAKER_04You made me think about something, so it's but we but we it's a it's a huge disconnect. It's a huge, huge, huge disconnect. And this I'm gonna try to land this where it makes sense to the email, but it's a huge disconnect. Listen to your story. Your wife was motivated after she got married. And men want some of those things now to motivate them to get married.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07So if Don't get me wrong, she was trying though through the before the married process, though.
SPEAKER_04She was definitely like I think it's important to say that though. I think it's important to say that uh for this email sake too, because um the person that emailed that, I mean, they have they have they have a responsibility in this too. You know what I mean? So it's just like the motivation for a man comes with seeing some of those things. But you get a lot of women, they're like, well, I'm not gonna be motivated to do any of these things until I do get married.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So not disconnect and we had a we had a standstill because we in this big old power struggle.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. She was definitely attempting to learn to cook while we were dating. That wasn't uh, oh, we got married and she finally learned how to cook. No, she by the time we got to the I do part, she was her cooking had tr tremendously improved. You know what I'm saying? It had got to a point, but she just kept on continuing to uh to grow in the area, I would say.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. No, that's real. I think that's where that's where that email kind of like makes a difference if it's a man or a woman. Um, not to not to give an agenda role or anything like that, but I think the motivation looks a lot different because you want to you want to make sure that some of those things that that you complained about or that you wanted to address, not complain about, but some of those things that you wanted to address are actually happy because, hey, who wants to get into a marriage with somebody who's not financially happy? Who wants to get into a marriage with somebody who doesn't follow through on somebody, you know what I'm saying? Somebody promised facts. But uh who wants to get motivated, who wants to get married to a person that's not motivated to get up and do anything or have any ambition about them, you know what I mean? So I I feel it for sure. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07All right, email. Let us uh let us know how it went. Uh, we're gonna end the podcast there. Email us back, we'll get back on here and we'll say what your next steps need to be after you email us back. Not that we know experts or nothing.
SPEAKER_04I ain't gonna lie, we need we need a part two today. So when you hear this, man, please keep us updated.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, we just we're just giving you our opinions. You know what I'm saying? Um give them your head up, let them know where they can find you anything you want to promote, let them know.
SPEAKER_04Man, you can find me on IG uh DQ underscore 11. Uh nothing to promote right now, but definitely, man, whenever y'all have questions, reach out so we can tackle some of these things together. And honestly, I don't think y'all understand how much we apply a lot of this stuff to our own personal lives too. You know what I mean? So it definitely puts it put us in a position to hold ourselves accountable if we're giving advice too. You know what I mean?
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