Love Is Blind Part 2

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I knew this episode would be pretty intense so to lighten the mood, we started off talking about our childhood crushes and ended with a Hood Situation about the most awkward thing that's happened on a date. Before you start listening, I've got to give you a Trigger Warning!! This episode, I had a panel of guests on who shared their thoughts about and stories of Domestic Violence and Abuse. The ladies who shared their experiences gave us some chilling, heart-wrenching tales of verbal abuse and kidnapping along with severe physical trauma and sexual assault. This episode contains graphic content and may be difficult for some to listen to. If you needed a sign to leave your abusive or toxic relationship, this is it!

Featuring:
@Jasmine Hunt
@Jasmindeshea
@Ashley__thrash_
@Colorfulaudio
@Dq_11

This episode is dedicated to my friend Tianna Hunt, whose life was cut short because of a tragic abusive relationship. RIP.

The National Domestic Violence Hotline is a 24-hour confidential service for survivors, victims and those affected by domestic violence, intimate partner violence and relationship abuse. Advocates are available at 1-800-799-SAFE and through online chatting at www.TheHotline.org. All calls are free and confidential.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Bring that one back brother.

SPEAKER_01 0:03

So Jasmine uh Hunt, I know your story is specifically very traumatic.

SPEAKER_07 0:13

Um my story is not just my story, it's my sister's story too. It's my little sister.

SPEAKER_00 0:19

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 0:20

Okay, so um 2014, worse year, worse time in my life, changed me forever. So 2014, I was in a relationship um with a guy for eight years. So I'll start that off, and it it changed what happened, changed what happened with my relationship at that time too. I was in a toxic situation. Um, I hate to say, well, it domestic is domestic, but I was an aggressor too. So I just want to throw that out there. Um, my little sister, we um she had a son by um a guy, I don't want to name drop because I refuse to say his name.

SPEAKER_06 1:00

Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:01

Um, before she had the baby, she had been dealing with him for maybe a couple years on and off. Uh, it was very toxic, very abusive, verbally, physically, and we all knew about it. I mean, my little sister made excuses for him, but we pretty much knew what was going on. And um, I've always tried to be that big sister protector for her and tried to get her out of that situation. But of course, we're gonna do what we want to do. So to speed it up, she ended up having a baby by him. My nephew, he's what he should be wow, about 10 now. I was gonna say um when they uh split, well, when they had them, it was pretty brief, you know, as far as like uh in-home situation. It was never like mom, dad lived together, you know. She had them, and most of the time she lived with me, and so I was around and see a lot of the things that was going on, and um, so eventually they dealt with each other when they dealt with each other, but um eventually my sister ended up getting pregnant again in the midst of their breakup. Now, in the midst of this breakup, it was makeup fight, breakup, makeup fight. You know, it was it was a toxic situation. So, in the midst of my sister being pregnant with her last son, which is eight now, my sister's been gone for eight years now. Um, he was still around, you know. Um, we I we're from Battle Creek, Michigan. I don't know if anybody else on here is from that town, it's pretty small, and you know, we all ran around the same people, so it was kind of hard to avoid, you know, running into him. And he made it a point to anyway because they shared a son. Um, while she was pregnant, she pretty much feared the whole pregnancy because she didn't know in the beginning if it was his or her childhood lovers at the time, and um eventually she ended up figuring it out it wasn't his. So that pretty much angered him even more to you know, taunt her or whatnot and do little things because she was pregnant, he couldn't put her hand, put his hands on her. So, you know, um, once she had the baby, it was hard for my sister because she didn't feel safe at this time. She actually had her own apartment, but they had shared it together, so he pretty much had the key. He the one bought the furniture and everything else. So when she had the baby, she gave it to the the dad's um sister to watch after. And then you gotta imagine. I don't know if anybody on here, I'm I'm sure a few of us have kids, but you know, when you have a uh a child, you want to be with your child and bond with your child. My sister couldn't do that because she was so terrified of him hurting her or her son because he didn't belong to him, right?

SPEAKER_06 3:44

You know, right?

SPEAKER_07 3:45

So um, so 2014, May 24th, I took my sister to a party. Um, a childhood friend of hers was having a big party, and um, it was a lot of people outside. It was an outside party, and um initially uh we came for the party, but my nephew, which is her newborn son at the time, was pretty much two houses uh across the street, down the street from where we were at. So, you know, we you know, she initially went in and and kissed the baby, you know, had her mom time with him, which was pretty brief. And so by the time she comes out of the the house where she where her son was at, she comes out and realizes that her child's her other child's dad, the abuser, is there also. So that makes her pretty much infuriate, my sister. We have been drinking and smoking, you know. My sister, she is a firecracker, she liked me, life at a party, you know, loud, you know, and um she seen them and one thing led to another. I I kind of I just I knew something bad was gonna happen because anytime they see each other, it was always something toxic, you know. So initially she goes over to the truck that he's in, and um they have a few words, and uh it got like loud and heated for a minute. So I had went over and tried to, you know, calm my sister down. I'm like, you know, maybe we should just come down here because I had another sister with me that is my sister. We don't share that sister though. And so, you know, got her away from the vehicle, and um somehow she I lost sight of her, and all I could hear is a bunch of loud screaming, and and I see him hop out of the vehicle and I see her hop out of the passenger side, like she was inside the vehicle and took his keys, I guess, uh at the time. So when that happens, like I said, me being me, I'm I'm her big sister, you know. I'm I'd have had enough at this point. I'm like, you know, T is time. I caught we call her T. We're like, it's time to go, you know, this getting out of hand. He's now he's all loud at me, calling me bitches and and everything else because he's no, you know, I'm there for my sister. And so one thing I would never forget that he said in the midst of this argument, you know, he like, uh, you better get your sister um before she ends up in a body bag. And uh, yeah, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

No, it's okay, take your time.

SPEAKER_07 6:10

He was like, Um, you better get your sister before she ends up in a body bag. And I'm like, Um, you know, I'm like, you're not gonna do nothing to my sister. I'm like, if you kill my sister, then you have to kill me too, or leave me as a witness, you know. So after that, it it never really calmed down, but I was able to get her in my car. And um, as we're getting in the car, and the time of uh us going to my vehicle, getting in my vehicle, he walked off and disappeared in it's nighttime. So, you know, we didn't know where he went. So I'm thinking like, okay, maybe he just walked off to you know calm himself down. So next thing I know, I go to put my key in the ignition to try to drive off, and I feel somebody grab my hand and I look, and it's him, you know. And so now he didn't snatch my keys out of the ignition, and I'm like, you know, giving my shit back, you know. I'm trying to get my sister out of here, you know. I'm trying to defuse the situation, and now he done made it to where I can't even move, we can't even go nowhere. So everything happens so fast. Um, so I hops out the car, he takes off running with my keys. I'm I'm running after him. My sister, my little sister, and my my older sister is in the car still. So as we're running, he stops and he turns around, and then I realize what he got in his hand. So I eventually stop and he starts shooting at me. He started shooting at me first. So then I turn around, I start running back towards my car, but like around my car because of the way we was running. So I'm I'm thinking initially my sisters, my sisters realize what's going on, and they see us coming towards the car, and they they hear gunshots and they see him shooting at me. So they they get out the car, she gets out the car. So now that he sees that he missed me and I'm still running, he literally stops pursuing me and chases down my sister. He literally stopped and chased down my sister and shot her down twice and disappeared. And um all I can remember was her hitting around and me thinking to myself, like, did this shit just really happen? Is this happening? You know, I'm thinking like the bullets ain't hit her, like maybe, you know, I don't know what I was thinking in that moment, you know. But all I wanted to do was just make sure she was okay, and all I can remember was standing over my sister and you know, trying to kind of like pick her up, you know, like tee it up, you know. And she was limping, it got blacked out. And uh yeah, um I really I mean it's kind of blurry after what happened after that. Um, police got caught, he left the scene, everybody, you know, pretty much screaming, crying, running, you know, trying to get away from the scene. So I ended up at the hospital. And um, by this time, I know my sister hit, but I don't know, I don't know if she's alive or not. You know, so um we ended up at Bronson Hospital and the detectives wanted to talk to me. And um, I was just so in shock, you know, about what just happened that I couldn't calm myself down in order to tell them what had happened at that moment. So um the next day, um, they tell us that they transferred her to Kamazoo Hospital, which is not good. If you if you in Letter Creek and you have something happening to you and you go to Bronson and they tell you you got to go to Kamazoo, nine times of ten is not good. So I'm already, you know, thinking the worst. But let me pause the story so I can let y'all know. Before he got my sister down, he had shot at her two weeks prior to this. Not only did he do that, I want to say a month before that, he beat my sister so bad. She was so she was so protective of that toxic situation, you know, that she didn't want us to really know what was going on. That he beat her face to we damn near couldn't recognize her. I remember he she she lied to us and told us she had us thinking because it's five of us. I got five sisters and three brothers, and you know, we don't take no shit, and everybody knows us, you know. So she made up this whole lie story and said that uh she had got jumped, yeah, you know, so we all out in cars looking for these imaginary people and come to find out it was him, you know, and I didn't find that out that it was him until after my sister had already passed. But anyway, so um get to Kamazoo hospital. My family, they know how close me and my sister is, so I got lied too. I didn't know my sister was pretty much brain dead, you know. So the first three days of her being in the hospital, I'm I'm thinking like, oh, I'm about to bring my sister flowers. I remember I got flowers, blooms, you know, thinking like I'm about to talk to my sister again, and um that wasn't the case, you know. So I ended up really finding out what was going on, and so in the midst of all this happening, he's out on a run. He's out on a run, nobody knows where he's at, and so uh they never put this in the the newspaper, but in the midst of him being out on a run, he chased me and uh the last son that she had, the baby boy that she never got to know and raised. His dad happened to be in a car with me when I was looking for him. And um, one night I was taking him somewhere, and a car was behind us and just kept, you know, I guess he realized that it was following us. And once we realized who it was, because it was a description of the car that they kept saying that he was, you know, seen in I hit the gas, you know. He literally tried to chase me down and kill me again that same night. This is like not even um not even a month after you know everything happened. They they still didn't catch him. I had to call the police, everything. I'm afraid for my life, me and him, you know, thank God I got away. We got away, but so um yeah, we all have to make a decision, you know, on pulling a plug on my sister or not. And obviously she's not here, so we have to do so. Keep in mind, my sister's birthday is May 10th, y'all. My sister lost her life May 30th, May 31st. May 31st, you know, just had a beautiful birthday, you know. She had plans, she just had a new beautiful baby, and all of that was just gunned down and shot down because of this toxic person that couldn't let go of her, even though he was out doing his own thing, she was doing hers. It's still he was that you know, messed up in the head over her that he just couldn't let her go. No matter the cost, no matter if he had to take me out, too. You know, and uh obviously how it uh shaped me is terrible. You know, I had to watch my sister be gunned down. I will forever have that scarred in my mind, I will forever remember how many black eyes and and big busted lips and everything, you know, and it it changed my relationship because I was in a toxic situation, you know. Me and this man split ways, he didn't even know how to be there for me because after what happened, and you know, it just made our situation worse. And so I lost my sister, I lost my boyfriend at the time, I lost my baby nephew, the the child that they shared together because he went into the system. I haven't seen him since it happened, you know, I don't go to parties no more. Um, yeah, I couldn't sleep. I was on a lot of medication. I tried to take my life a couple of times, you know. I blanked myself because I asked myself over and over so many times, what more could I have done, you know, to try to protect my sister before it got to that point, you know.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

Right.

SPEAKER_07 14:31

Yeah, pretty messed up.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

That's tough, man.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_07 14:34

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 14:35

Her sister was uh a friend of mine. We called her, like she said, we called her T. She was um she was so cool, like yeah, fun loving, like like she said, life of the party, like she was always somebody like you could like just talk to, you know what I'm saying? Like we had a we had a good time growing up, it was full of life, you know.

SPEAKER_07 14:58

And I think the hardest thing for me is not not just burying her, just knowing that those words that he said to me and it happened, yeah, you know, and that there was nothing that I could do. And it's like, you know, even with the trial situation, that I must tell you, I get you know, watching it on TV is totally different from you know you actually going through it and having to sit there across from somebody and point and look at somebody that took a loved one from you, you know, right? It's just it's unexplainable. And you know, I have a daughter now, and all I can say is that you know, we can try to hide what's really going on, but in the end, you know what I'm saying, it it could it could be it could be bad, you know. Everybody's not that strong, and like you know, I can't remember uh the other Jasmine said it's not always you know physically, sometimes it's verbal, and it was plenty of signs and just nothing I could do. Yeah, sometimes it's just that, and it sucks because that's my sister. I don't know if it's different to feel like that with a friend or you know, a cousin or something. It was my sister, all right.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

I um I couldn't imagine and someone else making a choice for you over jealousy when they really had no right, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 16:17

Yes, it was pure jealousy, yes.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

They really had no right, so so we're gonna go ahead and head to commercial. Uh Jasmine, thank you for your story. I didn't know what you were gonna be comfortable with sharing, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 16:31

But it's my first time talking about it. I mean, especially publicly like this, so I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

But I feel like that's tough, and people need to realize like when you're in situations like that, it's not just you that's in that situation sometimes. This week's episode is sponsored by the design lab at Shutter Shock and Co. From logos and business cards to invitations and custom tees, the design lab is your one-stop shop for graphics. The design lab is the sole creator for copesthetic merchandise. Available now. Use your promo code Copasthetic for 10% off your copesthetic merchandise. Shop now using the link in our bio. Alright, so we're not moving into the next topic. I would usually say moving to the next topic. We're not doing that yet. We just uh we had to take a little break. You know what I'm saying? The stories were I almost cried on a live story, you know what I'm saying? Like they're thought-provoking and heartbreaking and just emotional on all fronts, you know what I'm saying? So I wanted to give everybody a break. Now, me and DQ are men, and I know men can go through um domestic violence situations, you know what I'm saying? Um, but I couldn't find any men who were willing to come talk about them being abused by women. You know what I'm saying? I would say most men are abused by like their baby mama keeping their kids away from them. That's the most common one I can think of, but no one wanted to come and share that. So I wanted to uh DQ to give his reaction on you know everyone's stories and what he thinks would be helpful and beneficial, and if he had any questions to ask anyone if you guys.

SPEAKER_02 18:49

Okay, um, first man, I do want to say thank you guys for um being transparent. Um, I know some of those testimonies, they was they was tough to hear. I had to get off the camera a few times, man. Um, just to kind of watch my nonverbals on camera, because like I said, man, just hearing some of those um stories and then just thinking about like who who do I know, you know what I'm saying, who's been in those same situations as the victim or even as the abuser, you know what I'm saying? Um, that's the topic we don't talk about a lot as amongst men, you know, calling each other out if we know, you know, I'm saying they're in a situation where they're kind of creating an unhealthy environment for them and their partner, them and their kids, or you know, them and other family members just because domestic violence can't look so different. Um, but um one thing I want to do to just kind of bring this whole conversation full circle. Um, I want to talk about the recovery stages with uh each of you guys. Um a little bit of my background for the past 10 years, I've worked with a lot of um young adults and adolescents who were victims of uh mental abuse, physical abuse, sexual abuse. And some of the things that we uh deal with in working with some of these people is talking about the um uh the long-term effects of trauma. Um, one thing we do know about trauma is that trauma affects everybody in a different way. Um, I like to tell people all the time, you can't weigh, you can't put trauma on a scale and weigh it out and say it's one person's trauma outweighs the other person's trauma because it's how it's the emotional response that we have to that trauma, you know. So um, so I know it looks like I know it looks different. And like I said, we can even break it down uh uh an even deeper layer by going by uh just um our demographics, you know what I'm saying, as far as where we were raised and different things like that. So um, but one thing that we focus on as far as the recovery stage is talk about the importance of developing healthy coping skills. So I want to ask you guys um what are some of those healthy coping skills that you found to be beneficial? Um, because I know in the midst of trauma, a lot of times the coping skills that we develop are not the most healthy coping skills, you know, whether it's smoking, drinking, whether it's being with, you know what I'm saying, whoever. I think I heard a couple people talk about, you know, just finding love uh right after that situation in the wrong places. So um, what are some of the um healthy coping skills that you guys kind of develop at this stage of the process? And if you and if your trauma or if your situation that you talked about on the podcast was most recent, maybe you're going through that right now. And maybe you can kind of get some insight based on somebody else who shared the story. So if somebody wants to just talk about like what are some of the things that they find to be beneficial for them to kind of help them go through though, go through that grievance stage. And then when you have times where where you get triggered, because I know if you are with a new person, they might not know how to handle you in that situation. So, what are some things that kind of trigger you and kind of what helps you get through those days?

SPEAKER_05 21:42

So for me, um, prayer, I literally go into prayer and a fast once a month. I mean, I go into fasting once a month and then I pray every day. Uh journaling, therapy, I take my daughter to therapy. Recently just like getting back active again, like working out. Uh we live surrounded by water. So for me, my peace place of just where I can think clearly and everything is definitely just sitting outside, just in the sunlight, next to the water, just relaxing. And um, so coping for me looks like relaxation. It looks like doing things that keeps my mind clear, that keeps my thoughts fresh, that keeps me on my toes to recognize certain things. Right now, that's pretty much like the gist of just what I do as far as coping.

SPEAKER_01 22:33

What about you, Ashley?

SPEAKER_04 22:34

Mine was actually being open and transparent with my parents because that's not something that I ever really did. And talking to my dad and really trying to create a better relationship within my circle of people and whatnot, and just living in the moments of, you know, basking in those people who really care about me and focusing mainly on that. And because of it, me and my parents' relationship is like a thousand times better than what it was like growing up. And I have way more fulfilling friendships. I I know like I have people who really support me and whatnot. Also, I will say I think pre-pandemic, I was taking myself out once a month. Like no kids, no friends, just hanging out with myself. Like I would go to a hotel for a weekend. Um, I remember taking a flight and going away for a weekend by myself, or just like taking myself to a spa, shopping free, really learning what it felt like to be with just myself because I felt like I was always surrounded by people and I always had people there, and I really didn't know what it was like to be alone.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

What about you, Jasmine?

SPEAKER_07 23:56

For me, I pretty much can go off of what the other jasmine said. I mean, prayer is the real big one for me in my situation. I was so lost and still am at times, but I feel like if I didn't reach with, you know, reach deeper within myself and find something to hold on to, you know, I was just gonna lose myself and you know, Jesus was it for me. And I just I've learned to just be a little more kinder. I think my situation uh opened my eyes up to how I um, you know, how you just don't know what a person is going through sometime. And you know, I I try to listen more than speak now, you know, and just try to be there for people. And that that makes me feel good about me. So and that helps me.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

So I agree. And Shahana.

SPEAKER_03 24:45

I guess I'm I'm still in a portion of like DQ mentioned when DQ mentioned that like I may still be going through finding healthy coping. Um, so some days I'm really good. Some days I am, you know, saying kind things about myself in the mirror, um, choosing healthy options to eat, drinking moderately. Um, you know, like some days I'm good, some days I am doing shadow work, so I'm making sure that I'm learning how to set good boundaries with people because I realize that's something that I had an issue with. Um just things like that. But some days I am not okay. I'm not okay. And I call off of work, I sleep all day, I eat whatever the fuck I want. Um drink till I don't feel anything. Um I don't know, I'm just still trying to find a balance where I am in therapy. Um, so I do I can honestly say the good days outweigh the bad, but I do think that, you know, it still hasn't been a year since it happened, and I'm still just going through the motions essentially, but I'm giving myself grace. I am not beating myself up too hard. Um, and I do pride myself on being able to bounce back essentially. Like I'll have my moment or whatever. And even in the moment, I'm talking to myself, like, girl, you know, this is unhealthy. This is a couple of steps backwards, like this is not what we're trying to do. So yeah, I'm just I'm just doing it. Stay my life.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

That's what's up. It's uh every day is a new day, and every day is a step towards, you know, new life, new beginnings. So absolutely for everyone, keep that in mind. Like you have to want to be happy. You have to want to be healed, and not saying that it's easy and then count as it's not, but if you want it every day, you step towards it every day, you know, some things you'll you'll never forget, some things you never can truly be healed with, but some things you can you know, you can understand it and you can you can live with it. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 26:59

So yeah, no, absolutely, man. I I I agree with that um for sure. Um I think just having those coping skills on hand. I noticed when uh Shadana was telling her story, she was utilizing a stress bar, you know, and that's just kind of like having that sensory item right there and there to kind of get through telling her testimony. So just utilizing different things like that, um, every day is gonna look different. And um it's not a it's not a race, it's not a race to recovery, you know. It's it's it's sometimes it's lifelong. But I think being able to recognize your triggers, recognize and when you have in these traumatic responses, and sometimes they can come in the most the craziest way. It could be it could be cologne, that that ex-boyfriend who who used to abuse you, you wear the same cologne and you walk past something in the mall wearing that's the same cologne. So it's being able to understand what those triggers look like for each of you guys and understand that you know it could look different and don't get too down about it. But uh once you kind of recognize those triggers again, recognize okay, what do I have in place right now where I can kind of get over this because I was prepared for this, I was prepared prepared for that, and sometimes that preparation doesn't come until you actually get to that event and then you have that traumatic response. So uh but again, though, man, thank you guys for just being transparent with that. So, yeah, that was just my follow-up questions regarding the story to kind of bring everything for a circle.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Facts. That's a big fact. All right, everybody. So we're gonna leave all this this uh these traumatic stories, and we're gonna hop and I'm gonna tell a funny story to you guys. I'm gonna let y'all go first because you know, mine's is uh gonna be more funnier than y'all's, I think. No, but um we're gonna move on to the next topic. The what hood situation, who hood situation, why could shit be happening in the hood? Today's hood situation is what's the most awkward thing that's happened to you on a date?

SPEAKER_04 29:04

So whenever I go on dates, I usually meet up with a person. I'm not really big on first dates picking me up knowing where I live. So I meet up with this guy at a restaurant, and you know, we're talking, the conversation's going great, and then he's like, Oh, you know, what was your last relationship? And I'm just like, oh, this is wasn't really a relationship, you know, just kicking it with somebody, and then I'm like, What about you? And he started crying.

SPEAKER_01 29:34

He started crying, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:37

I'm like, um, okay. I'm trying not to laugh at bro, and I'm like, don't nobody care about niggas' feelings.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

Hey, I ain't gonna lie, I was just about to say that, man. Hey, that's hey, that's why black men are fucking.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

Nobody gonna fucking be we can't be emotional, right? You can't be emotional, nigga.

SPEAKER_04 30:02

But it was the first date, and I was just like, sir, this guy has not healed from his past relationship, and he don't need to be here with me right now because why are you crying? He saw well, you know, she left me at the altar, and I'm like, Oh, that's real deep. I'm sorry to hear that. And he was like, Yeah, you know, now she has having a baby with somebody. I'm like, Wow, this is just getting too much for me. You know what? I'm I'm turning red in the face. I don't know how to hide my my facial expressions, and I'm like, Oh my god, and people are looking at us, he's crying, and I'm sitting there, emotional damage, nigga at the altar.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

Hold on, hit it again. Emotional damage, god damn.

SPEAKER_04 30:52

So, yeah, um, oh thank god. So the day had ended, wrapped everything up, and uh sent him on his way farewell. Good luck to you. Blocked his number, blocked everything, all the socials. Because I'm like, you don't need to come back back this way, sweetie. I don't know what to do with you.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Oh my god, that's some movie shit, dog.

SPEAKER_04 31:13

Low key, like I couldn't wait to tell y'all that. So, yeah, I hope you don't hear this.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

I feel bad for that black man. Yeah, I do too.

SPEAKER_04 31:26

Wait, why he was crying though? His girl left him at the altar and she got pregnant and all that.

SPEAKER_05 31:30

Okay, I thought I heard all okay. I just want to make sure because you need you need to make that jagged edge song the sound clip. Right, that's what we live. But if you just got left with the altar, you shouldn't be trying to go on no date. No, he shouldn't.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

But that's why men are fucked up. That's the only coping mechanism that we know is like, okay, if I fucked up over one girl, I just get another one.

SPEAKER_04 31:52

Y'all just go get under another one, yeah. Yeah, and it wasn't gonna be up under me. That was too much weight. I couldn't do it, and I like my men a little bit bigger, but not that type of weight. I can't do it. That's too heavy for me.

SPEAKER_00 32:04

Man, dog. Oh man, that's too funny. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 32:08

That's funny as hell. Uh, I went on a date um a little while back with an older guy. I thought daddy older would have been the wave, but it's not. So he was actually 15 years older than me. So I was like, all right, you know, cool. But when that nigga called me sweetie pie, motherfucker, I said I couldn't do it, bro. I couldn't do it. People call me sweetie pie. I said, because I already people already told me I look a little bit younger than what I am, and then it's just like for to get called sweetie pie on a date. I said, This nigga too old. I just I can't get it. Did he say I can't do it?

SPEAKER_01 32:40

Did he say a country? Like, hey sweetie pie. Did this just say a real country? Hey, babe.

SPEAKER_05 32:47

No, but it just was kind of like, it just felt like I was talking to my granddaddy. I just couldn't do it. I just couldn't do it. I was like, this too much. The date still went on, but please understand that I was like, Yeah, you know what? I I'm good, I'm straight. I would say for the ladies that do like to date a lot older, uh, my heart is with y'all because I it's just I can't do it.

SPEAKER_07 33:08

I can't older, just a little bit. I'm 34 in August, so I mean you can't be past 45, put it like that.

SPEAKER_05 33:15

Okay, this guy was 40, he was definitely older than 45. So yeah. I love the daddies. We love the daddies, but he looked really young, that's why I was like, okay, you know, but when that nigga said sweetie pie, I said, okay, which I got fixed later. It was real.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

He picked her up one of them old ass Cadillac and had the temptations planned.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

I'm the temptation.

SPEAKER_01 33:41

Motherfuckers pulled up, my girl, my girl.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

I will like to do it. It's my imagination.

SPEAKER_05 33:53

Actually, he actually we met up. I didn't uh we met up, I didn't like ride with him, but he wasn't a taco. I will say that. I wasn't a taco. Well I was yeah, I was like, this is a lie. I feel like I was talking to one of my friend's dad or some shit. This shit was weird as hell.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

That nigga pulled up playing Smoky in the Miracles nigga.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

I forgot I forgot. I forgot Sha Donna. Yeah, like she liked them old niggas. Linda Daddy. Hey, Don Wanna Daddy statue. See, that's what that's what we call it.

SPEAKER_05 34:34

I can't do it. It's just like, I'm like, I'm only 32. At this point, he gotta be younger than about 38. I don't be looking to marry these men.

SPEAKER_03 34:43

You know, like if they're over over like nine years older than me, I'm probably not gonna think about marrying you, but we can have some, we can listen to Smokey Robinson.

SPEAKER_04 34:52

My man is eight years older than me. I was in fourth grade when he was graduating high school.

SPEAKER_05 34:59

But the older who to think that like I he was already a teenager when I was just born, that shit was weird. I just I I had I had a lot of thoughts in my mind when this was happening. So I was like, you know what? I can't do this. I can't do this shit.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

This nigga pulling up listening to Michael Jackson nigga just many as hell.

SPEAKER_05 35:15

Listen, I talk about pulling, like listen for real.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

Pulling up a Cadillac with white walls on the box. The owner of all the boys.

SPEAKER_05 35:26

Hell no, pulling up listening to artists from the 80s and shit. I'm still here looking like I I can't, I yeah, I can't.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

That nigga pulling up listening to Luther.

SPEAKER_05 35:36

Love it.

SPEAKER_02 35:38

I can't do it. Mine, not a uh a Dayton story, it's a dangling story. Um dangling? Dangling, yeah. Dangling. So dangling is some shit. I was dangling doing some shit I wasn't supposed to be doing. Um, matter of fact, uh, five, you already know this story because I called you. I called you during the story.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

Oh my god. Yeah, tell this one.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

So um I'm up in uh Copper Beach. I don't know if y'all are familiar with Kalamazoo, but uh these apartments at Kalamazoo. I'm in Copper Beach. This was a long, long, long time ago, back in my back in my young days.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

It ain't even called Copper Beach no more, Loki.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

Like, it's called Copper Beach no more.

SPEAKER_04 36:23

The paddock.

SPEAKER_02 36:24

But um, I'm in I'm in Copper Beach, man, and I'm um I'm kicking it with this girl. I knew she had a boyfriend or whatever, but her boyfriend stayed back in Detroit. So I'm at her crib kicking or whatever, we're chilling. And um, we on the couch, you know what I'm saying? Shit, shit starting to turn up a little bit, and then she got a knock at her door. She got a knock at her door, so I'm jumping, but she had two roommates. So I'm thinking, okay, maybe it's just one of them. So she looked out the peephole, and it's her boyfriend. He drove up here from Detroit. So I'm panicking, and I'm like, damn, what the fuck? So she was just like running upstairs and just, you know what I'm saying, go in my room and just stay there. So I'm just like, man, what the fuck? So the nigga come in the house, she acting, I'm talking as normal as possible, like she not sweating, nothing. And I'm just sitting up there listening to everything, like they just have a normal, normal conversation. He's like, Oh, I wanted to surprise you. He had her like all types of gifts and all types of shit. So I'm upstairs in her in a bathroom. You know, they have the bathrooms in the room. I'm upstairs in a bathroom, and I FaceTime this nigga Ernest. And I'm just like, bro, what like what am I supposed to do, bro? Like, I'm sitting there and it's like I say probably like 45 minutes. I'm texting a girl, I'm just like, man, what the fuck going on? You know what I'm saying? You gotta get this nigga out of the house somehow, you know what I'm saying, so I could leave or whatever. So I'm texting Ernest, uh, I'm calling Ernest, and then uh calling my other live brother Jordan, calling both of them. I'm just like, man, what you do? These niggas is not being helpful at all. They just laughing and shit. This nigga started singing traps, niggas start singing traps to the cross.

SPEAKER_04 37:57

Traps in the closets. Why didn't you just act like you was one of the roommates dudes or something? But you wouldn't have planned for that.

SPEAKER_02 38:06

Yeah, the roommates wasn't there, so I'm just looking like I'm calling, I'm calling these two niggas. These like my best friends, and I'm just like, bro, like I need help. And these niggas just goofing off, like trapped in the closet, and then you hear uh you hear this this nigga Ernest, he just he can't take shit serious at all anyway. And then he just like you know all types of stuff, like bro, what the fuck? So I'm just like, you know what? I'm about to tell her to like see, tell dude, like she she wants, she needs to go to the store to get some drink. So I text her, I'm just like, man, tell this nigga that you want to slush you or something, and speedway right up the street from uh across the beach. And I'm just like, bro, I'm about to tell her to tell this nigga that she wants to slush. At first, she was just like, you know what I'm saying? That shit random as hell, but it ended up working. So they end up leaving to go to speedway. I'm sprinting down the stairs, running out the apartment, and they had a fucking dog. And as soon as I open the door, the dog runs off the apartment. So I'm chasing a dog around the apartment. I was just like, bro, what the fuck? So I end up grabbing a dog like by the back of his neck, open the door, and just threw that motherfucker, left the door, left the door open and just got in my whip and just and took off, man. I was like, I think, man, that was my lesson. I'd be like, dog, you need to slow the fuck down, bro. You doing way too much.

SPEAKER_04 39:32

I'll be toxic.

SPEAKER_02 39:34

No, man. I wasn't being toxic. I was being, I was being a uh a good good guy. Oh no, you was I was talking to her, I was talking to her about her boyfriend pop.

SPEAKER_05 39:42

Oh being toxic. Okay.

unknown 39:47

That's good.

SPEAKER_02 39:48

I remember. That was uh that was crazy though.

SPEAKER_01 39:52

Ain't nothing funnier than a nigga really being in the trapped in the closet situation. You singing trapped in the closet to this nigga. That's the funniest shit ever.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

Yeah, that shit's funny. And the crazy thing though, like Shadana know, like we used to be in college singing trapped in the parts all the time. Yeah, so like, and I'm sitting, I'm literally in that situation. I'm just sitting in the like, fam, like, how the fuck can I get here? And then again, you don't you don't know dudes, niggas go crazy. Niggas are really killing, you know what I'm saying? That kill over this girl, yeah, like for real. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of that is going in my mind, but then again, I'm trying to be funny about it at the same time, get myself out of that situation. But that damn dog, that damn dog put me in a blender, like I'm literally running and I'm straight into the front of uh Cumber Beach. My shirt is soaking wet. This nigga just stayed me laughing at me, man. So it was bad for me.

SPEAKER_05 40:42

See, that's what you get for being that's what you get for being out here in the streets toxic.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

That shit was funny.

SPEAKER_03 40:49

So I I knew this guy, I met him online in this like Facebook group. And we were talking, you know, we exchanged numbers, talking about some DMs first, exchange numbers, and he was cool. I didn't feel any specific way about him. But um, I noticed that he was like taking pictures that was just like of his face and stuff. And then, like when I was trying to compare him to like the height of the seat, like it was like he might be short, he might be my height, but you know, and I'm five eight. So I was like, okay. And then when I did ask him, he was like, I don't like when women ask me that question. I think it's superficial, like oh that shit, whatever. So he didn't tell me how to talk it was. So we go on this date. This nigga had to be like five three. Oh, he was a little nigga and he was built like a big bitch.

SPEAKER_05 41:36

I'm talking about legs and legs and body.

SPEAKER_03 41:49

He was like, he was real, real like big, like titties. He could probably wear my bra. And I'm not bothering him or anything. I'm just saying that I know why he didn't want to tell me how tall he was and why he was taking pictures of just his head, like right up here.

SPEAKER_05 42:05

So he had man titties.

SPEAKER_01 42:11

She said they was perky. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 42:14

No, some baby have a man titties that be sticking all out like you know, the bigger hips than me. Mine's fluffy. Oh, I ain't date no I ain't dating no man who has big as fuck. If your ass is bigger than mine, I can't even Obama.

SPEAKER_07 42:33

Like who grabbed the whole butt?

SPEAKER_04 42:37

Not the not the nutty professor talking about who stuck and who titties over here.

SPEAKER_01 42:43

Hey, hey, hey, hey, they both get stuck. They both they both getting sucked.

SPEAKER_06 42:51

Oh, nipples.

SPEAKER_01 42:55

They both get sucked. I like mine sucked though. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_05 43:01

You want to nibble on my nipples?

SPEAKER_02 43:02

Yeah, you said nibble on my nipples. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Give it a couple licks.

SPEAKER_05 43:08

Ain't nothing wrong with it. But it's like at the same time, the men, some of the men be having like, they need a bra.

SPEAKER_01 43:15

I probably need a bra, low key. I probably do need a bra.

SPEAKER_05 43:17

No, I'm saying just either in person. When we did the power, you not need no bra.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

I'm sorry, Shadana. Go ahead. We got off to a tangent on your story.

SPEAKER_03 43:32

Um, I mean, I didn't cancel him just because of his height and his body. Like Oh my God.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

She said he was built like a thick bitch.

SPEAKER_03 43:46

I'm sorry. Somebody called me.

SPEAKER_01 43:48

Shadonna, you could have you could have went to the party's like, I'm in love with thick bitch. I'm in love with a thick bitch.

SPEAKER_03 43:55

But you know, we just stopped talking ultimately because um He had low self-esteem because of what he had going on. I didn't add to that because I was very cognitive or aware of my face. I didn't make him feel uncomfortable because that's not something he can control per se.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:12

So, but you know, I'm pretty sure he received a lot of like negative reactions to his height and his size. And I just was we could just have one good day, have a good like I'm gonna be kind regardless. But he was just like he was like an Eeyore, he was so woe is me, so depressing, so monotone. He was mad, he was thick. I'm saying, man.

SPEAKER_07 44:32

And my thing is why lie? Like, if he wants somebody to accept them for him, he should at least let us know what he really looks like.

SPEAKER_04 44:38

Yeah, right. I got a big booty and a nice body, it's probably shaking. Yeah, like any of his choice. He had a book himself up against made fun of boy built like his mama.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

He didn't want you to like his grandmama, grandmama, Jasmine, like his grandmama.

SPEAKER_03 44:59

He had like the under-the-arm fat, like he made good greens, and he had childbirth.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

This is the type of shit y'all females be talking about in our group. Right, when nobody around maybe possibly, whoever whoever dude is. I hope you don't ever hear this podcast.

SPEAKER_03 45:16

I mean, I hope not, but you know, I hope he will.

SPEAKER_01 45:22

That's funny. All right, Jasmine, you got a uh awkward date story?

SPEAKER_07 45:26

Yes, very freaking awkward and embarrassing.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 45:29

So this is around my trying to be a sugar baby type, you know, ordeal before my daughter.

SPEAKER_06 45:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 45:34

So I was with this older guy at the bar. I don't know if anybody ever been to friends, but it's a small ass bar.

SPEAKER_06 45:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 45:40

And so it's not hard to see somebody if you know him. I have been talking to this other younger guy that I had just met maybe a month prior to that day. Um, I get a text, like, we're texting, I'm texting, uh, I'm with the older guy. We're in the car, we're going to lunch. And I'm texting the other guy, and uh, I'm like, so what are you doing? He's like, about to go get something to eat. I'm like, okay, me too. And so I'm almost to the bar. By the time I get to the bar, he's telling me that he's at the same fucking bar I'm on my way to. So I'm speaking like, okay, awkward is fucked, awkward. So on top of that, I got my daughter with me. So it looks like a fucking family outing, and it's not, and I haven't even told this guy about him or nothing like that. So when I get in here, I'm already feeling fucking awkward about it. We end up getting set, like we set like literally diagonal from the fucking guy that I haven't talked to. And so I'm trying not to make eye contact and be rude, you know, because this is my friend that I'm with, like, okay, like he's bringing the bread and butter. Like, I just hook up with you, you know, like I can't fuck this up. Right. So I'm trying to keep a straight face and like look away or whatnot. But um, then he starts texting me while we're sitting there. So now I'm on my phone texting him back, trying not to laugh, like telling how good I'm looking and all this other stuff. He didn't spilt the drink trying to look at me. So now my friend looking at him like, what's up with this dude? Right. It was just it was a mess. It was a mess. I had to get up out of there. I was happy he left before the fuck we did because it was pretty, yeah. It was awkward.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

That happened to me kind of one time too, low-key. I was I took my grandma out one time for dinner for her birthday, and uh not even a girl I was messing with, just a girl I knew she was in there with this oh oh white man. I'm talking about old as a bitch, and I was like, he was like feeding her and shit, and I just looked at her, and I walked in and her head just dropped like see now.

SPEAKER_07 47:37

Mike wasn't embarrassing. Oh, and I feel like the older they is, the more you better be getting that guac. I don't care, but uh mine wasn't crazy old.

SPEAKER_01 47:46

I didn't hate, I didn't say nothing, I just said hey, how you doing and kept it pushing, you know what I'm saying? That's her change, she shouldn't have been out out there eating, feeding her uh some steak.

SPEAKER_05 47:56

I was like, damn the fuck. I just can't fuck if he looked like my if you if you act like my granddaddy, I I can't, yeah. Like that's so he so he was like wrinkly old that when you saw her, when you saw the chick.

SPEAKER_01 48:10

That nigga looked like the Monopoly man, like that nigga was old that's a bitch.

SPEAKER_05 48:14

If he looked like Colonel Sanders, Colonel uh the Colonel Man was the same, yeah, like the Colonel, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:20

Yeah, finger licker, finger lick, figure lick, yeah. You look like that nigga for sure. That is embarrassing.

SPEAKER_01 48:27

I ain't knocking nobody hustle. It was just funny to see though. All right, so what what am I gonna say? Which one?

SPEAKER_05 48:33

Yeah, I think you just told her a story on you.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

I done told her a lot of my shit. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So this one was kind of it was awkward and funny at the same time, I think. So I was messing with this girl. This is maybe two years after high school. I'm in Battle Creek, I mess with this girl. I'm going to Western. Maybe three years after high school. I'm going to Western. And um I'm not really dying really, I haven't really had too many girlfriends, you know what I'm saying, per se. But I just was messing with a lot of people. This girl I was messing with. I had been messing with her for a long time. And this particular day, we like went out on a kind of date, you know what I'm saying? We went out to went to the movies, went out to eat, you know what I'm saying. She was still living with her mom. Still, she was like uh maybe a year older than me, but she was staying with her mom still. Went out to eat, went out to uh to the movies, and we came back to her crib, we smashed, you know what I'm saying, but we had been drinking, and so like we like passed out in the in the bedroom. So I'm asleep, everything, like I'm just I'm naked still, you know what I'm saying? And um it's like four in the morning, maybe, you know what I'm saying? Her uh her mom comes into the room and smacks me on my ass and tells me to get up and get my shit and get out of her house. Butt ass her mom smacked my bare ass cheeks. Told me to get up, and you know I ain't got no ass, so she just smacked me on the ass, told me to get up.

SPEAKER_06 50:26

The lower back.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

Yeah, the lower back. Yeah, she started me on my lower back, back crack, you know. Talking about balls out, everything. Just get up and get your shit and get out of my house. Because I I was parked in the driveway. That's where I fucked up at. I shouldn't have parked in the driveway, but I I didn't think I was gonna fall asleep.

SPEAKER_03 50:46

That's where you went, bro.

SPEAKER_05 50:47

That coochie must have been good.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

You went to sleep.

SPEAKER_07 50:49

I mean, where was she at? You know her mama showed up. She should have woke you up when she disappeared. I don't get that.

SPEAKER_01 50:56

What you say? Say it again.

SPEAKER_07 50:57

I said, Where was the girl at? Where'd she go?

SPEAKER_01 50:59

She was in the bed, she was asleep. We was sleeping the bed.

SPEAKER_05 51:02

Oh, it must have been good. Y'all went to fucking sleep. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:06

We both sleep in the bed.

SPEAKER_05 51:08

Oh Lord.

SPEAKER_02 51:09

Her mama would have brought you sleeping butt naked after you uh knocked her off.

SPEAKER_06 51:15

Okay. That night.

SPEAKER_02 51:20

Oh man, I gotta, I gotta at least throw the hoop shorts back on unless we unless we like that.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

Unless we like that. It was just awkward because like I didn't know what to do. Like I feel like a little ass boy, like I got caught. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I put my drawers on and left. Like, you know what I'm saying? I even put my shoes all the way on. I just, you know, you just stuff them in the feet and stuff them in your uh your shoe and the heel go down, you know what I'm saying? And I walked out the house, nigga, and then the next day I'm like, bro, you know your mom smacked me on the ass last night? Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_03 52:05

Why'd she do that? She's petty for that.

SPEAKER_01 52:07

I don't like that shit.

SPEAKER_00 52:08

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 52:10

She could have just rubbed you on your shoulder or something.

SPEAKER_04 52:14

Right, nigga. She was gonna smack some smack the back of your head or something. Show you wanna slap somebody, but no, I'm not seeing the sex in her house. Why touch me periods? I mean, I mean, you're right, Jasmine. He was in the bumping and grinding.

SPEAKER_07 52:32

It's your daughter, obviously, company. Like, wake up your daughter, you know.

SPEAKER_03 52:36

She probably got off on that shit with her old ass.

SPEAKER_07 52:39

Yeah, I know, right?

SPEAKER_04 52:40

That's honestly. If my daughter ever did some stuff like that, I definitely would wake her up first. Like, look, you wake up again and get him on out of here.

SPEAKER_01 52:48

She knows me, but she knows my dad and everything. Like, she knows me, like for real.

SPEAKER_07 52:53

Like, you know what that ass looks like now.

SPEAKER_01 52:59

Yeah, she does, probably everything else, too. God damn it.

SPEAKER_02 53:05

She saw she saw that little winker, man.

SPEAKER_04 53:09

Oh, yeah, he got a little Mexican, Mexican in him. I like that.

SPEAKER_03 53:14

Oh, she hit you with the iPod on the ass.

SPEAKER_01 53:18

So that was just awkward as fuck. And I can't get over that. I still see how when I see every blue moon, I'll see this her mom somewhere. I'll never see her. But every blue moon, I'll see her mom, like, the fuck was that about? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 53:36

You smack me on my ass back in the day, or no?

SPEAKER_01 53:39

Hell no, I would never say that shit. That shit's weird.

SPEAKER_00 53:41

I would you remember that's just one of them.

SPEAKER_01 53:44

You just get one of them looks, like, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 53:48

Like, nigga, I you remember. I'm a different, I'm a different type of nigga. I want to talk about that shit. We need to talk about that shit.

SPEAKER_03 53:57

Yeah, because that's the man that like Fran Breer when he was 10. Oh, right. So yeah, he would have enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_02 54:05

He'd have been like mama, what's up?

SPEAKER_01 54:11

All right, we're gonna end the podcast there. Give him y'all hit up. Anything that y'all want to promote or to follow you, let them know. We got about 8,000 listeners, so let them know. Promote yourself.

SPEAKER_04 54:22

I'm on a social media break outside of Facebook, so I'm not really using so socials. Um, I don't have a business, but I mean, I'm nice. If you want to follow me, my ad on Instagram is Ashley underscore thrash. You can get a couple laughs out of my kids and stuff, but other than that, um, really ain't got no endeavors. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:44

Hit her up.

SPEAKER_04 54:45

Don't follow Ashley, but don't hit me up on no other stuff. I got a man, be careful.

SPEAKER_06 54:51

All right.

SPEAKER_07 54:51

Sunshine, glory on Facebook. Uh, hopefully in the future I'll have my own food truck coming soon, you know, so they can hit me up if they want uh good food ideas and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 55:02

Hit her up, hit her up, hit her up.

SPEAKER_03 55:03

I'm Jay Lewis on Facebook, Sha Apostrophe Lewis. Um, so follow me on Facebook. But pertaining to this particular topic, I have a group for survivors of domestic violence, male and female. Um, it's called the Lounge. So if you can't find it by searching it, um just follow me on Facebook, let me know you're interested, and I will add you to the group.

SPEAKER_01 55:24

Facts. Hit her up, hit her up, hit her up.

SPEAKER_05 55:26

All right, guys, I'm Jasmine. This was uh a very good topic. I will say that. Um, you guys can follow me on all platforms at Jasmine DeShea. That's J-A-S-M-I-N-D-E-S-H-E-A. Um, that's Clubhouse, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok. Um, and then just click the link in my bio to follow me everywhere else. And uh make sure you click the link in my bio to follow me on Facebook. Follow me on Facebook, do not try to add me as a friend. Follow, hit the follow button. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 55:56

I'm she said what she said.

SPEAKER_05 55:59

All right, no, seriously.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

Um I am DQ. Um again, thanks for having me, Ernest. Um, appreciate all the ladies for sharing their stories. Um, and I just hope that somebody does hear this and you know decide, you know, if they are in a situation that they do want to get help. Um and I don't know if you talked about it, but the domestic abuse or the domestic violence hotline is 1-800-799-7233. Um but you can follow me on Instagram, DQ underscore 11. Don't have a Facebook, nothing else.

SPEAKER_01 56:36

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