(S6Ep2) London: Part 2!

What a learning week! Things we learn:

-Hugh Jackman is not what a wolverine looks like. LOL 

-Coffee grounds can in fact drive slugs away, but it's not always 100% effective.

-Stonehenge is 2 hours away from London, so Andy REALLY missed the train. 

-Mongolia is super interesting to learn about and Khongordzol is a Queen. 

-Reindeer (caribou) is definitely eaten in Scandinavian countries. Sorry, Vixen. 

-The people around you love you and respect you more than you know. And they're showing you even if you don't believe it at first. 

-Webisodes!

Summary: Ron gives Leslie sound advice on how to move forward and in return, Leslie gives Ron a trip he'll never forget. Ann and Chris tell everyone about the baby, and Tom charges forward with Rent A Swag. Oh yeah and Andy takes a London job! 

Thank you and don't forget to rate and review! 

Sources:

IMDb

Heidi Klum EW article 

Filming in London

Mongolia! Nat Geo Kids

Barrister Wigs

Slugs and Coffee Grounds

Transcript

Holly Constant (00:01.871)
Okay, are you recording on GarageBand too? Okay. Okay, well I can hear you so that's good. my God. Okay. Okay, we're doing it. All right, so season six, episode two, London part two. Welcome everyone. Thank you so much for being here. This was again written by Mike Scherr, directed by Dean Holland. Same team we had as part one, which is kind of nice.

Madi (00:03.948)
I am.

Madi (00:07.692)
Yay. We'll call that a win right now.

Madi (00:12.674)
What a hot mess.

Madi (00:28.972)
Yes. I feel like it wouldn't make sense to do it another way.

Holly Constant (00:31.961)
I know, I don't even think of that. Yeah. Okay, so yeah, I mean, I have nothing else to say, so summary, I'm ready for whenever you are. Bless you.

Madi (00:44.942)
Huh, when my allergies allow me to speak. I have one more in me, hold on.

Holly Constant (00:47.835)
Ugh.

Holly Constant (00:51.472)
Love you!

Madi (00:54.584)
Thank you. Okay.

Holly Constant (00:55.461)
Ha ha ha ha.

Madi (00:59.158)
Leslie gets to meet other powerful women in government and finally gives her speech while receiving her award, which goes much differently than she would have hoped. Andy weighs his options of staying in London to help Lord Covington rather than returning to Pawnee. Ron's honeymoon gets a detour and Tom continues to fight the fight for Rhett to swag.

Holly Constant (01:18.459)
Yay, okay. Yeah, so basically just finishing up everything that we started in the first one I do have a second Like kind of I guess what you call it following up on last week So some of the webisodes that I talked about last week some of them I just want to round them out for this week because there's also one with behind the scenes of Ron on his journey to the distillery and the clue book that Leslie gives him is like so detailed they zoom in on

Madi (01:23.288)
Yeah.

Madi (01:47.105)
Wow.

Holly Constant (01:48.173)
Yeah, it's really lovely and so beautiful. And I feel like that little clue book thing should be in a museum because it's so beautiful. And he really does talk to the workers at Lagavulin and they seem like real workers. So in the webisodes, they show the behind the scenes. You know how they did the montage at the end of him like talking and laughing with everybody. you know, he was reading the poem over the scenes and whatever, or April was reading the poem over the scenes and not her, the poem, the...

acceptance thing or the submission for the award. Anyway, they really did seem like workers and not actors in the best way. I'm gonna, I didn't find any research. I tried to, I didn't find any research whether they were actually workers at Lagavulin, but I bet they were. They had to be, honestly.

But it was really funny. And then he asks if he can sleep there. Ron asks if he can sleep at the Lagavulin distillery because he's drank so much. And that was another deleted scene slash webisode. was like he was drinking the Lagavulin as a, like a shot basically. And the workers were all like, you're not supposed to.

just shoot it like that. Like you're supposed to savor it and really take a sip and you know, and he was just, he was like, okay, I'll take another one and try again. And then he just keeps doing that. So he gets drunk really fast and the worker covers him up with a blanket. So he sleeps there. It's really cute. Me too. And then the other webisode that I was going to just quickly mention is that Ron goes up to a random person in

Madi (03:06.125)
my gosh, I love it.

Holly Constant (03:14.265)
the Lagavulin area in Scotland and wants to buy his house so he can stay there. He says he has a large amount of gold and then this guy says no, but he just hangs around and like stays in his yard and is like, he'll come around. And I thought that was really funny too. Like he wants to move there now after everything you've hated about Europe. Interesting.

Madi (03:31.468)
Yeah.

Yeah. I haven't been to Scotland, but I've been to Ireland and that's the vibe. You're like, yes, take me away from the speed of life and let's just look at these. I mean, you saw the scenes at the end. my gosh. It's just beautiful. I get it.

Holly Constant (03:46.949)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (03:52.655)
which I bet doesn't even do it justice, like the amazing bluffs and the scenery and the, my gosh. I cried in this episode. I'm not like full disclosure. At the end, my gosh, with both Ron's poem and April's submission for Leslie and how hard everything is in government, I was like, this is so, it hits home, that's for sure.

Madi (04:07.223)
Yeah.

Madi (04:14.06)
Yeah, it's a beautiful ending.

Holly Constant (04:15.663)
Yes. yeah, Ron is also sending videos to the girls and Diane, it's very cute. So anyway, that's my little spiel on the rest of the webisodes that were on the DVD extras. And then last episode, I also said I wanted to research the nurse who was trying to get Tom to stop going into the doctor's office.

Her name is Sharon Battle and she has been in Pretty Little Liars, NCIS Los Angeles, Grey's Anatomy, Glow. Looks like a lot of great things. It also looks like her last thing was in 2018. So I hope she's still out there, but if not, I would totally understand. So hopefully she's doing well. She doesn't have any of her agents listed on IMDB, so I couldn't contact them, but I did reach out to her on Instagram. So maybe she'll get that. I don't know. A lot of times if you're not following the person, it doesn't go to where you can see your direct messages. So.

Hopefully she knows that we appreciate her and if she wants to come on, she can.

Madi (05:07.02)
Yes, absolutely.

Holly Constant (05:09.243)
Okay, the other thing I have a lot to catch up on, I guess, because I was getting into the swing of it last week, I guess, because I also didn't realize that I didn't do research on the UK shopkeeper that Ron is like, take my American money, like that's the greatest currency. And he's like, we don't take that. I don't know what you want me to do with for you. So the shopkeeper's name is Neil Edmond and he has been in Queen Charlotte, the Bridgerton story, which I have not actually watched. You have though, right?

Madi (05:27.969)
Yeah.

Madi (05:37.954)
I haven't seen that one yet. I've seen all the Bridgerton seasons, but I haven't gotten into that one yet.

Holly Constant (05:40.897)
Okay. Okay. my gosh, there's so much to watch. I have so much on my list. I still haven't finished The Crown, if you can believe it or not. my God. I love that show, but it's like, it's a long episodes and it's...

Madi (05:53.814)
Yeah, they are. And it's the crown is like, it's a whole vibe. Like you have to be in the mood for the vibe of what that show is.

Holly Constant (06:00.396)
it is.

Yeah, because it's very like, I mean, which makes sense. It's kind of like documentary heightened vibes. So you do have to, yeah, be there for the drama. But I love the show. I really do. Yes. But anyway, so this dude has been in Queen Charlotte, the Bridgerton story, Ghosts, the UK version. Have you guys heard of the Ghosts US version?

Madi (06:09.122)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, that's great. It's well done.

Madi (06:25.547)
Is that the sitcom where like they're in a house and all the ghosts from who lives there or whatever? Okay, I've seen I've seen trailers, but I haven't seen the show.

Holly Constant (06:31.343)
Yes.

Holly Constant (06:34.649)
Okay, yeah, so that was originally, that was kinda like The Office. That was originally a UK show, and they brought it here. And it's really good, my mom is obsessed with it, and I do like it too. It's on Paramount, if you have that subscription, but it's a good show, and the characters are all really cool. So he was in the original UK version, which is cool. And then he was also in Bridget Jones, Mad About the Boy, which is the sequel to Bridget Jones, which is super cool. That was...

Madi (06:40.481)
Okay.

Madi (06:55.116)
Cool.

Holly Constant (07:03.269)
That was fun, I need to watch that one too. I actually think I've only watched the first Bridget Jones like once. I need to go back and re-watch.

Madi (07:10.766)
I hadn't watched it until I was on maternity leave and my mom was here with me and she was like, I can't believe you've never seen Bridget Jones diary. We have to watch that. So yeah, I'm right there with you.

Holly Constant (07:14.346)
really?

Holly Constant (07:22.403)
Yeah, yeah, and I mean, it's so funny because every time I think of that show, I have to get past it and just watch it for like the probably goodness it is. But every time I think about that movie, I'm always like, that's the era where they were calling women of Renee Zellweger's size fat and like big. And I'm like, who? Where? What? Just like. No.

Madi (07:37.856)
I know. my gosh.

Holly Constant (07:46.469)
think about that with Love Actually, where, what's his name's character, the one who was working for the prime minister, and they called her like fat or chubby or whatever, and I was like, huh? And it's like minimal, it's subtle I feel, because they don't mention it too much, but it's like so ingrained in you that you think about, like when you rewatch that, you're like, they called her like the bigger girl, and I'm looking at her like.

Madi (07:54.717)
yeah. Ridiculous.

Madi (08:05.752)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (08:13.901)
She's so stunning and I mean you can be bigger and beautiful. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying like she's not plus size. I don't think.

Madi (08:15.822)
Yeah.

Madi (08:20.214)
No, I agree with you 100%.

Holly Constant (08:23.341)
Anyway, so.

Madi (08:24.46)
Yeah, I think we're starting to get at least better about that. I, you know, there's still undertones, but I will say. Yes, yeah, I will say, and maybe it's on me for record. OK, it's not because my whole life I've gone into two stores and mannequins are like they're the size of the models on the runway. And you're just like, well, that looks great on the mannequin, I don't think it's going to look like that on me.

Holly Constant (08:29.464)
Yeah.

I think we're still at least calling it out.

Holly Constant (08:52.068)
Yeah.

Madi (08:53.602)
I was in Target yesterday and for all the other stuff that is not great about Target, had like a mannequin, had like three different sized mannequins. And I was like, okay, that's nice to see that we're not just looking at these, you know. So anyway, my commentary.

Holly Constant (08:58.619)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (09:05.626)
That's good.

Holly Constant (09:09.359)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (09:12.867)
Yeah, yeah, yes, totally. But anyway, so that's Neil Edmond. That's the guy that played the shopkeeper. I reached out to him, but haven't heard back. So we'll see what happens with that. And then the next thing that I was gonna talk about is so last episode, we wanted to confirm where Guardians of the Galaxy was filmed because we said that one of the reasons they filmed in London was so that Pratt could join the show since he and Lord Covington.

Madi (09:34.552)
Hmm.

Holly Constant (09:36.283)
were shooting Guardians and it is confirmed, I did confirm that Guardians was filmed in London, some in Surrey and some in Belgium. So there's sound stages over there as well as location. I think there was a Millennium Bridge scene and I haven't seen Guardians in a long time, but yeah. But it was definitely filmed over there. And last week we commended Pratt for staying on, which is great. But I also think that we should commend the production for letting like that happen because I feel like there's been a lot of times when, you know,

Madi (09:51.15)
same.

Holly Constant (10:05.869)
actors have something and they have to turn it down because they're already a part of something else. I think it's lovely that they gave him the option to go do Guardians and and still be a part of the show as much as possible because I just think that the production here is like gonna try to do whatever they can to help their actors. So that was really lovely to hear.

Madi (10:22.956)
Yeah, I think so. I think it's a smart move for them too, right? Because Marvel hits a whole different demographic. And when like Pratt starts getting known for being in Guardians, like they might be like, he's in a show. I know I do that when I find an actor that I like. I'm like, okay, what else are they in?

Holly Constant (10:36.6)
Hahaha!

Yeah. Yeah. This was also like, it's funny on Instagram, someone I feel like I heard call him. When was like this was I think around the turn when he started becoming very like Christian or maybe that was like after Parks. But it was like around that time when he was starting to become very Christian and somebody was like looking at all of the old Parks and Rec bloopers. And it was very like sexual, very obscene that

Pratt would do, which is hilarious. somebody on Instagram was like, I miss godless Pratt.

Madi (11:16.075)
my gosh.

Holly Constant (11:17.111)
I was like, this is so hilarious to me. Maybe he was Christian before too, but he just like leaned into it harder as well. I'm not going to comment on that because I have no idea what his story is as far as like his religious beliefs or when that happened. But you can definitely tell that he's less.

Madi (11:19.26)
my gosh.

Madi (11:28.951)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (11:35.099)
obscene, I suppose you could say. He's a little bit more politically correct and more like following the church vibes later on in his career. But anyway, so. Also, well, yeah, exactly. Also, side note in that BuzzFeed article that I found that talked about them filming in London, they kept mentioning Ken Tremendous. And I was like, who is that? Like, that's weird. And it's a pseudonym for Mike Schur.

Madi (11:40.694)
Yes.

That's so funny. What a comment.

Holly Constant (12:01.557)
I think he was on Instagram at some point looking at old posts that had that name and it's so funny and it goes with his character naming too. We talked about last week, like that would be his character name on Parks and I thought that was hilarious. I did look it up on Instagram and I can't find him as that anymore so maybe at some point he was on there or maybe he's just gone private now, I don't know. But that's funny, Ken Tremendous. Yeah.

Madi (12:10.221)
Yeah.

Madi (12:23.192)
That's so funny.

Holly Constant (12:26.587)
Okay, and then the last couple things I want to talk about are first of all the people something we didn't talk about last week I thought was really wild that the amount of people that want to recall her that are out front of her office I was just like looking back at it I was like That is so many people that showed up to be at her office with signs and pitchforks essentially and I was like that is nuts so many people I'm like hello, but I mean

Madi (12:43.787)
Yeah.

Madi (12:49.464)
These people need jobs.

Holly Constant (12:54.735)
That is a real thing that if people really believe in it, they will come out for that. mean, and Harris doesn't count because he still thinks that he's voting about legalizing weed, but.

Madi (12:58.551)
Yeah.

Madi (13:02.4)
Yeah. Yeah.

Holly Constant (13:05.229)
And then honorable mention to Brian Stack. just want to shout him out really fast because he in recent times, I haven't looked at how many downloads we've gotten in the past as far as all of them, but he in recent times has been the most downloaded episode. So except for like our pilot. So I just want to shout him out because he has such a great like circle of friends and fans that.

Madi (13:20.157)
awesome.

Holly Constant (13:28.475)
are really supportive of him that I think wanted to hear him speak. So I'm so glad and honored that he was able to do our show and it was such a good episode. So if you haven't listened to that, go listen to that. It's so fun. And then lastly, they were doing promos for Winter Olympics in 2013 and oh my gosh, the pictures are amazing. They do a game that honestly is just bullying to Jerry, which is no surprise, but they have him basically like on a chair asleep and they like push him to go see how far he can go and then he falls out. And I was like, oh my God.

Madi (13:38.294)
Awesome.

Holly Constant (13:57.683)
but I will post them in their Olympic outfits because it's really cute. have this, these jackets, these like silver jackets and, my gosh, it looks really funny. And they're all like walking. Like it's that, what is it? Apollo, whatever, where they're all like walking slow mo down the hallway. And it's really cute.

Madi (14:14.411)
yeah. that's so cool. Love it.

Holly Constant (14:17.467)
Okay, well thank you for listening to all of my catch up moments. Okay, now we are finally on season six, episode two. Original air date was September 26, 2013. Wild. And we start this episode with Leslie trying to rush back home because of what she saw on Purge Show. And I love that at the end she's like, let's go walk past Colin Fritz's house again to like calm her down. It's really cute.

Madi (14:29.964)
Yeah. Wow.

Madi (14:41.324)
Yeah. Yes. So, so cute. We had a, was watching this episode again last night and Ivan was watching with me this time and he was like calling for the guy from hunger games. And I was like, I'm so confused by who you mean right now.

Holly Constant (15:04.589)
Yeah. Who was he thinking?

Madi (15:06.958)
And so I had to look up a picture of Colin Firth and show it to him. He's like, I have never seen that man in my entire life. I was like, also how have you never seen Colin Firth? I've not, he has not seen, he's probably saw it in college. I think a whole group of people watched it, but yeah, he did not clock him. So I'm like, are you thinking of Stanley Tucci? That's the only big like guy name that I can pull other than Donald Sutherland.

Holly Constant (15:13.977)
my god, that's Yeah, has he not watched Love Actually? Do you guys want...

Holly Constant (15:24.098)
Yeah, just like around.

Holly Constant (15:29.895)
Holly Constant (15:34.789)
Yeah.

Madi (15:36.974)
who he knows. And he's like, I know who Stanley Tucci is. It's like, okay, so I'm looking it up. I'm like, are you thinking Colin Farrell, who's also not in Hunger Games? And he's like, yeah, maybe. And he was thinking about Stanley Tucci. When I pulled the pictures up, yeah, but I was like, Colin, where did you get Colin Firth out of any of this? But it's great. Yeah.

Holly Constant (15:39.962)
Ha ha ha!

Holly Constant (15:50.851)
That's so funny, my gosh.

Holly Constant (15:55.995)
Yeah, I don't know. Oh my God. That's funny. And I mean, he is like, yeah, I feel like a lot of things that I've seen have been like chick flicks, I feel. like what a girl wants, I think about him or I never saw the what's it called? It's not Pride and Prejudice. What's the other one that he was in? Oh, was he? Oh, OK.

Madi (16:04.536)
Mm-hmm. Yeah!

Madi (16:14.124)
Yeah, he was in Pride and Prejudice, but the really long BBC version, it's like six episodes or something. It's not a movie, it's a series. Yeah, but he was also in The King's which is not, yeah, not a, yeah, yeah. And Mamma Mia, which I've watched, I've made Ivan watch. Yeah, he's out there. Yeah, yeah.

Holly Constant (16:23.084)
Okay. Okay.

yeah, yes, big deal. Yeah, love that. of course, yes. Love a Colin Firth moment. Yeah, he's out there. That's funny.

Madi (16:40.054)
I have to say, like, this is so, I feel like we see this a lot from Leslie. We've definitely commented on this before. This is so reactive. It's so, my gosh, everything's on fire. I have to go fix it now. And I'm just, like, Leslie, take a breath. Like you're literally saying you're going to go through all of this. You're going to miss the thing. You're going to, just to get home two hours earlier, which also fair point, like with all the international flights, it's hard sometimes, but.

Holly Constant (16:47.663)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (16:52.699)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (17:07.323)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (17:09.452)
Yeah, I just, was sitting there and I was like, see the spiral happening. Somebody get her out of the spiral.

Holly Constant (17:14.925)
It's so hard. And I mean, you really have to think, because I do this, I'm definitely guilty of this spiraling and then taking and then realizing, well, what is it really going to do at that point? Like if you were to get there two hours early, like what can you do in two hours that you weren't going to already do two hours later? You know what I mean? Plus, like, is the two hours worth the, you know, the train and the speeding and the this and the that, you know what I mean?

Madi (17:17.646)
Yeah.

Madi (17:33.496)
Yeah.

Madi (17:43.83)
Yeah. Well, and the other, the other thing too, that I like thought about was like, there's not, it's not even a fire. It's people know she's in London. Like it's not, you know, something happened at city hall really bad or, anything like that. It's, it's legitimately just, she's trying to save her save face, which I feel like she could have done with like a video and just like sent it out on her Facebook because we found Facebook is where it came from. So yeah.

Holly Constant (17:44.238)
the stress.

Holly Constant (17:51.641)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (18:03.967)
Right.

Holly Constant (18:07.664)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (18:11.683)
Yes. Yeah. Yeah, totally. I know. Well, and this would make more sense if she were to rush home after her speech, like after Jerry calls in. Like people saw it. Jerry. But yeah, you're right. Well, so now we're at the award ceremony and I've completely forgot that the lady who plays Concord's all is in here. I love her so much. my gosh.

Madi (18:14.53)
but classic Leslie moment, I feel like.

Madi (18:21.325)
Right.

Jerry, yeah.

Madi (18:36.362)
Yeah, she's great. Yeah, she's been in a lot more things now.

Holly Constant (18:40.919)
So many things. Yes, her name is Kaliko Kawaii. I'm actually so sorry. I don't know how to pronounce the last name. I think it's Kawaii or something like this. And I'm so sorry if it's wrong. But I started watching Superstore only recently, which was created by the two people who worked on The Office and fell in love with her then. And then now she's on St. Dennis Medical, where she plays a bit of a different role. Because in Superstore, she plays this kind of shy, like always made fun of kind of like left out gal. And it's kind of funny, but sad.

Madi (19:01.324)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (19:08.792)
She's so good.

Holly Constant (19:10.221)
She's so good. And then in St. Dennis Medical, she plays a little bit more like tough, what are you like, ballsy gal, which I love. She's a nurse on there. So fun. which is also the same creators, from super store slash the office as it is on St. Dennis. but yeah, I was looking at her IMDB. She's been in so many things, like an episode here and there of two broke girls, Brooklyn nine, nine, big bank theory, modern family. Amazing.

Looks like a few Nickelodeon things too. Big Time Rush, iCarly, Raven's Home, which is so cool.

Madi (19:40.91)
It's very cool. didn't know about those other things, but yeah. And how cool to get to have a broad spectrum of characters to play. Yeah.

Holly Constant (19:48.441)
Yes. my gosh. She was so good. And she's from Hawaii, which I thought was important to say because she's from Kauai and her last name is spelled very similar to Kauai. So that's kind of what I'm basing the pronunciation off of. I, yeah, I just thought that was cool. yeah, I'm obsessed with her. I love her very much. So I did reach out to her team, but we'll see what happens. I'd love to do a full interview with her and talk about the broad spectrum of everything she's done.

Madi (20:00.802)
So cool.

Madi (20:17.762)
Yeah, absolutely.

Holly Constant (20:19.864)
But anyway, she has a huge cheering section and April is like obsessed with her. April says she grew up in a hut made of ice and mud and April's obsessed with her too. And she was a Wolverine Wrangler, which I think is really funny.

Madi (20:35.202)
Which I don't, I would have to look this up now that I'm thinking about it, but I don't remember there really being wolverines in Mongolia.

Holly Constant (20:43.335)
I know, I know. I did look up some. I have a little bit of a breakdown on Mongolia later, but I didn't really see about wolverines. So that would be a good question. Let's see. Are there wolverines in...

Madi (20:48.116)
Okay, okay, cool.

Madi (20:56.408)
They're, they're along the western borders with Russia and China.

Holly Constant (21:01.307)
Okay.

Madi (21:04.746)
and within the central mountains.

Holly Constant (21:07.341)
Okay, gotcha. Okay, so there are. These Wolverines look so cute though, they don't look scary.

Madi (21:10.124)
Yeah, yeah, just I know. That's it. That's not how I envision a Wolverine either. Okay, but that's freaking scary.

Holly Constant (21:18.927)
Power!

What? hold on, can't see you. yeah, yeah. Their teeth are crazy.

Madi (21:27.31)
Mmm.

This is not what a wolverine is to me. Maybe that's why I was like, there's no wolverines in Mongolia because I'm picturing a wolf. Yeah.

Holly Constant (21:36.079)
All I'm picturing is Hugh Jackman.

Holly Constant (21:44.315)
That's all I'm imagining is like they have blades on their.

Madi (21:44.59)
my gosh.

Madi (21:51.488)
Yeah, absolutely. That's so funny.

Holly Constant (21:53.967)
Maybe it's like the Honey Badger where the Honey Badger, like you don't really anticipate them being so deadly, but they are. Yeah. Okay, that's good to know. all right. Anyhow, yes. And I was gonna say they must've flown everyone out because I did look up to see if this conference room was in London. Cause I was like, there's definitely a way for this conference room to have been maybe in LA or something, you know, but it says that.

Madi (22:00.512)
Yeah, yeah, they can get you. Yeah.

Madi (22:19.01)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (22:21.027)
These conference scenes were shot in London, so it sounds like everybody came out to London to do that. So that's interesting and cool.

Madi (22:27.736)
They were like, we have the budget, we will do it.

Holly Constant (22:30.091)
I know! I guess by season six they had some money, so a little bit maybe. I don't know. So anyway, that's cool. And then we get to Heidi Klum!

Madi (22:39.476)
Yes, Heidi Klum is such a big part of my childhood with my mom and watching Project Runway. Yeah. Yeah. So I, yeah. She's great. Yeah.

Holly Constant (22:47.227)
I love that. Yes, so she, her character is from Denmark and her people love her. Her people made a statue out of goat cheese shaped like her. I think it's really funny that she, that Leslie noticed that it was goat cheese. I would have never known. Yes, good cheese, hi Leslie. So funny. Side note, Heidi Klum is actually German, not from Denmark.

Madi (23:03.17)
Yeah, good cheese eye, Leslie.

Holly Constant (23:13.531)
However, Silkeborg is a real town in Denmark. It looks beautiful and I need to add that to my tour of this world.

Madi (23:22.082)
Yes. What a beautiful part of the world that I have not seen.

Holly Constant (23:23.259)
It looks so fun.

Yeah. And later they're going to consume me with crackers. I love it so much. She did a great job. And it's really sad when she asks Leslie, you know, what about your town? And Heidi Klum is really laying on thick. I don't think I knew as much as until I analyze it, really laying on thick how many people love her and how much her town is like obsessed with her. They love me. Like she just keeps saying it. I'm like, okay, lady, we get it.

Madi (23:31.476)
Yes. Yeah, she really did. Yeah.

Madi (23:54.004)
Yeah, I have on there is like, I feel like we're bragging, like in front of Leslie. I think it feels worse and heavier like for us because we know what Leslie's going through and we feel Leslie's like let down in her hearing that Heidi's loved.

Holly Constant (24:06.651)
100%.

Holly Constant (24:10.672)
Yeah.

Right, yeah. And I think maybe it's also just America in general. feel like people, for the most part, I'm sure there are people that are obsessed with their leaders, but for the most part, I feel like we are not a culture that is obsessed with our politicians, even if we agree with them. Like, obviously not regarding, you know, like Obama and, you know, people that are celebrity almost types, but.

Madi (24:31.288)
Yeah.

Madi (24:41.185)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (24:42.975)
Yeah, I just feel like that's not the vibes here. So hearing her say like, they love me so much. I'm just like, okay. But also I'm so excited that they do love her because it shows it's possible.

Madi (24:51.053)
Yeah.

Madi (24:55.01)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would say we, we are as a regular people do not do that. There are, there are pockets of

not logical thinking that are like that.

Holly Constant (25:08.867)
Right. Yeah, yeah, you're right. It just sucks compared to Leslie's situation. So Leslie kind of explains that that her town is trying to recall her and they laugh awkwardly because Heidi Klum cannot relate and has no idea what she's talking about. Your face is so symmetrical. What a funny compliment to say right out the gate.

Madi (25:14.422)
Yes, absolutely.

Madi (25:33.112)
For real. Yeah, it is hard, but she's, to even have the vulnerability to say, my town hates me while you're hearing someone else. I had a lot of respect for Leslie that she could lay it out like it was.

Holly Constant (25:41.838)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (25:49.407)
Yeah, well, and it just sucks too. I mean, we've kind of touched on this, but it just sucks that that Facebook thing didn't happen after the speech because then I would, but I mean, that's the whole point is that now she's like flustered and hating that she doesn't get any things and that they don't like her in this wonderful award ceremony where so many of the recipients do have towns that love them. And just sucks.

Madi (25:58.316)
Yeah.

Madi (26:17.591)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (26:19.981)
Okay, so I looked up how they got Heidi Klum or why they got Heidi Klum essentially. And the Parks crew apparently really wanted someone super famous and well known to be kind of the opposite mirror to Leslie, which mission accomplished as far as the character. Not the beauty, because Leslie's beautiful as well. But just like she's really tall, Leslie's kind of short, like all the opposite kind of mirrors that the town hates her and the town loves Heidi Klum.

Madi (26:31.98)
Yeah, for real.

Madi (26:39.562)
Absolutely.

Holly Constant (26:49.451)
and yes, she was doing project runway at the time. So I think that she was kind of at peak known notability, if you will. And Mike sure is quoted as saying her town completely worships her Heidi Kloome's character in a way that makes Leslie a little jealous considering that Leslie is undergoing a recall vote and Pawnee. He told that to ew.com when they were doing the whole, when this happened, EW did a little breakdown. So.

Madi (27:02.498)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (27:07.811)
Yeah.

Madi (27:14.222)
cool.

Holly Constant (27:16.411)
So anyhow April is now trying to go back to Mongolia with Concord's all and I wondered I wrote this note down and researched it later Like is she really speaking Mongolian and yes, she was I looked it up. Did you know that or did you like?

Madi (27:29.58)
That's cool. No, wouldn't be able to recognize recognize it. Yeah.

Holly Constant (27:33.627)
Mongolia. Yeah, me neither. was like, they could have totally just done some crazy other like syllables or something. But yeah, I did research on how to pronounce yes and no, and she did do it correctly. This is kind of where I started a tiny bit of a breakdown, but there's so much to cover. So I'll just tell you what I found. So 94 % of Mongolia speaks Mongolian. There are different dialects. There's something called.

Madi (27:41.175)
Yeah.

Madi (27:47.256)
So cool.

Holly Constant (28:00.187)
I wish I could pronounce this correctly. I did look up how to pronounce it, but I think I'm gonna butcher it anyways. So the dialects are O-I-R-A-T, or rat, or you're out and Boryat, B-U-R-Y-A-T. And in the West of the country, the Turkic languages of Kazakh and Tulaan are also spoken because they also border Kazakhstan. And I did have to look up, yeah, I totally bordered.

Madi (28:05.518)
That's okay.

What? What? Yeah.

Madi (28:24.75)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (28:28.749)
or I didn't know that they had bordered Russia and China because they were part of China at one point. So that was really interesting for me to find out. love that.

Madi (28:33.761)
They were.

Yeah, there's a province in China called Inner Mongolia. And it's just the bottom, I'm assuming it's the bottom half that China got to keep when Yeah.

Holly Constant (28:40.844)
okay.

Holly Constant (28:45.323)
Right. Yeah. Yeah. So I read that after the collapse of the Qing dynasty in 1911, Mongolia declared independence and achieved actual independence from the Republic of China in 1921. So they're right above China and right below Russia. And I did read that this was my tiny little moment to see if like

the way that they described Mongolia was correct or whatever, which I knew it would be, but I was just curious for my own education, that it is known for its vast and rugged expanses slash land and nomadic culture. So this sounds about right that it is like a tough life that she might live in her small like hut, if you will. I don't know if everybody lives in huts. I don't think that's completely accurate, but like I'm sure that, you know, that was her like upbringing. You know what mean?

Madi (29:24.353)
Yeah.

Madi (29:35.65)
Yeah, there still are a lot of, at least Inner Mongolia has a lot of that too. Like living in yurts and all that stuff.

Holly Constant (29:41.507)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's real. It says that Mongolia's temperature can fluctuate as much as 35 degrees in one day, which I'm pretty positive that's Celsius, which is, that sounds insane. That's hot. That's like a hundred and something, right? No.

Madi (29:56.024)
That's.

If that's if geez Louise, it can it can fluctuate 30 to 35 degrees Celsius. Yeah, that's insane. That's insane. Because yeah, because and zeros 32. So if you think if it can go from zero, which is 32 Fahrenheit to 35, which is like 9095. That's insane.

Holly Constant (30:04.781)
Yeah. That's 95 degrees Fahrenheit.

Holly Constant (30:19.453)
my god. Nuts. Very desert vibes. Says it's very dry and receives only about four inches of rainfall per year.

Madi (30:24.087)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (30:31.385)
Yeah, I found that on, I think it was National Geographic. I'll post all my sources and everything. But it was like, I love when I look up stuff for parks and there's like a kid section, because it's so fun and colorful and like right to the point. That's what I found for this one. And I just remember when NASA had one, I was looking up lasers when Andy takes a laser class. And I loved that one. They had a kids like a NASA kids website. It was so great.

Madi (30:31.447)
Yikes.

Madi (30:41.774)
Yeah.

Madi (30:47.589)
my gosh.

Madi (30:52.462)
Yeah.

Madi (30:59.574)
Yeah, I loved National Geographic Kid as a kid. So yeah, it's a it's great. Yeah.

Holly Constant (31:03.555)
Yes, it's awesome. So anyway, that's Mongolia's little breakdown. So well done for them. then, yeah, so she runs away from April because April is like trying to be really obsessed with her and like wants to go home with her. And she's like, no. But yes, oogwe means no.

Madi (31:10.038)
Love it.

Madi (31:20.652)
Yeah, no thank you.

Holly Constant (31:25.613)
Yes. Shoot. I can't remember. It's either yes or no. Let's look it up now. Oogwee in Mongolian because I don't want to, I don't want to say something wrong and then I'll cut it out if I need to. Yes. No means Oogwee or Oogwee means no, I should say. Yeah. It's kind of cool. I like the language. It's very intriguing to me.

Madi (31:39.182)
Okay.

Madi (31:45.676)
Yeah, well, I love that they use the actual language too.

Holly Constant (31:48.825)
Me too. Okay, so Heidi Klum is making a speech and again is harping on how much they love her. They ate reindeer after it was trained to dance for her and the reindeer was delicious.

Madi (32:02.474)
my gosh, that made me sad.

Holly Constant (32:05.083)
She did a great job. Wonderful job, Heidi Klum. But I did not know. I have a sad thing to say. I was like, no way. Reindeer is not a form of meat. Can't be. It totally is. People really eat reindeer. I mean, but at the same time, you could say that about any meat that we eat. Chickens are cute too. You know what I'm saying? But I think it's because it's a sad thing for like the whole Santa Claus situation that people have been trained to think about.

Madi (32:06.701)
Yeah.

Madi (32:24.651)
Yeah.

Madi (32:30.048)
Yeah, yeah, it's part of our childhood.

Holly Constant (32:33.709)
Yeah, but especially in Scandinavian countries, this is a real thing. Reindeer or caribou is not just edible, but also a staple in some cultures and considered a healthy food source in many parts of the world. It's a lean meat, high in vitamins and minerals and popular in Scandinavian countries and Alaska. And yeah, this article that was reading says, while some people may associate reindeer with Santa's sleigh and have a cultural aversion to eating them, reindeer meat is consumed in various forms, including steaks,

stews and dry jerky.

Madi (33:06.124)
Yikes. Yeah.

Holly Constant (33:06.395)
I've heard of caribou though. The caribou is a type of coffee too. Caribou coffee. You know what I mean? So like that must be, yeah, that must have a connection.

Madi (33:11.309)
Yeah.

I think it was named after... I think it comes from a company that has a lot of caribou in their state. I can't remember the story.

Holly Constant (33:24.513)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Let's see. Caribou. Well, their headquarters is in Minneapolis, but I thought it was like Washington or something, but it was founded in Minnesota. So I wonder if they, if does Minnesota have.

Madi (33:40.44)
think they do.

Holly Constant (33:42.947)
Really? my god. Does Minnesota have reindeer? Or I guess I should say or caribou? Does not have native wild caribou known as reindeer, but they can be found on farms and at the Minnesota Zoo. What? Why was it named caribou? Coffee then. That's weird. Maybe they're from somewhere that has it. You know what I mean? I don't know. I'm trying.

Madi (34:03.81)
Yeah, weird.

Madi (34:08.64)
Yeah, who knows.

Holly Constant (34:12.739)
Okay, Caribou Coffee was named after the founders' experience during a trip to Denali National Park in Alaska, where they were inspired by caribou herds in the rugged wilderness. Okay. Okay, well, so that's what I was thinking too. I was like, I've totally heard of caribou and that they were an animal, but I don't think I really connected that they were reindeer or you know what I mean? So anyway, that's, yeah. The more you know, we're learning a lot here, okay?

Madi (34:18.712)
There you go.

Madi (34:22.808)
Cool.

Madi (34:33.474)
Yeah. Yeah.

Madi (34:40.344)
Yes, we are. Today's a learning day.

Holly Constant (34:42.485)
Mm-hmm. A lot of stuff going on. All right. So I'm sorry to say that, but here in Virginia, we do not have them as far as I know. So maybe in Alaska, I'll just... I think it's like trying buffalo. You know what I mean? Like you don't think buffalo is eaten, but it is served in many places as burgers, know, steaks, that kind of stuff.

Madi (34:55.906)
Yeah. It is.

Madi (35:02.252)
Yeah.

Madi (35:15.298)
Holly disappeared.

Holly Constant (35:22.05)
Okay. It's so- Can you hear me?

Holly Constant (35:56.51)
Hello?

Holly Constant (36:00.244)
Can hear me?

Can you hear me?

Madi (36:05.826)
Hello?

Holly Constant (36:06.462)
Okay, can you hear me now? Okay, it did that VPN unable to connect thing again.

Madi (36:08.238)
Okay, yes I can.

Holly Constant (36:16.188)
Okay, weird. All right. It's still recording though, so hopefully it just stays that way. Okay. Okay, moving on. So Ben comes back and sadly Leslie is not ready for her speech when she usually is. And then we see the MC host lady come on. A brief moment on her. Her name, I like that she put her pronunciation of her name in her IMDB. Her name is spelled S-O-P-E, it's her first name.

Madi (36:23.117)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (36:43.75)
and last name is A-L-U-K-O and she says it's Shope Aluko, which is beautiful. And I wanna read her IMDB bio because it's so very diverse and fun and she seems super cool. She is a Nigerian born actress, primarily raised in the UK. She spent her younger years traveling and living all over the world, including France, Tanzania, Trinidad and Tobago and Indonesia.

Madi (36:52.12)
Very cool.

Holly Constant (37:08.85)
She has dual citizenship in both the US and the UK and speaks four different languages, including her native language, Yoruba Nigerian. So that's fun.

Madi (37:19.106)
Very cool.

Holly Constant (37:19.976)
Yeah, and it says that while she was in the UK, she attended drama classes at the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Arts, or Lambda, and extended her study into dance. And it goes on further, but I just wanted to read that little portion because it was really cool to me. And anyway, so yeah, she's done a lot. Black Panther, she was in. Pitch Perfect 2, Venom. She's also a writer and producer. She's done a ton of things.

Madi (37:35.555)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (37:45.644)
And then when I was looking her up on IMDB, it says she was in two episodes of Parks. And you know what? IMDB does have these two episodes almost combined. Like it says that Calico was in the first one, but she's not. And so I wonder if they got credited as having been in two episodes when it was really one, you know, which is really cool. I don't know how that works with pay. Hopefully they got paid for like two episodes instead of just one, maybe. I don't know. But yeah, that is really cool to me.

Madi (37:54.719)
of

Madi (38:02.243)
Yeah.

Madi (38:07.288)
That'd be cool. Yeah.

Holly Constant (38:10.996)
I did reach out to her agents and she respectfully passed on our podcast, but that's okay. I told her that we're always here if she wants to. So Leslie gets up to give her speech. It starts off so well and then she just goes off the rails about being honest about how she feels and how her town hates her.

Madi (38:17.912)
Yeah, nice.

Madi (38:27.392)
Yeah, and

Yeah, Amy Poehler does an amazing job here because it's all scripted, right? But you can tell when she stops reading her speech, like the little ad lib thing that that takes her into her tangent, like, is so natural. So I think she did such a great job. And it makes me so sad because especially because I think they teased us at the end of last episode when we got to hear what she was going to say. And

Holly Constant (38:37.46)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (38:46.355)
Yes.

Holly Constant (38:56.914)
Yes, that's so good.

Madi (38:59.234)
Yeah, it's just, feels, I don't know, I I think I had it written. You forgot about the people who do support you, Leslie. Like April, the people at the parks department who fight for you, the people who voted for you, that you're taking all the negative, which I understand, because it's so hard to sometimes when you have all the negative flying at you, but you're just taking the negative and you're not feeding those people who really fight for you every day.

Holly Constant (39:08.914)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (39:28.524)
And it's so sad, but I get it because she gets it all the time. gets this negativity all the time and it just gets so tiring.

Holly Constant (39:29.917)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (39:35.516)
Yes, yeah, 100%. Yeah, everything you said is so on point. Yeah, and it does suck too because I mean, like you said, at this point, yeah, she hasn't really had the positive people coming into her office, but also she set herself up for that because no problem too small. Like you're not gonna have the people that don't have any problems coming into your office and thanking you. But she is trying to focus on turning the people that wanna recall her, you know, to...

Madi (39:55.18)
Right. Yeah.

Holly Constant (40:04.017)
vote for her or to support her rather. But yeah, I mean, yeah, you're so right. This is such a good speech that she gives to and it really just kind of speaks to so many politicians probably and how they feel or not even politicians, but just people that like don't feel thanked in their jobs or don't feel appreciated in their jobs. Like, my gosh, the two quotes that I love the most are I love Pawnee, but it sucks. But sometimes it sucks.

Madi (40:20.27)
Mm.

Madi (40:29.11)
Yeah. Yeah.

Holly Constant (40:30.804)
That was just like point blank to the point. And then the second one I love so much and I think about this quote so much just with what we're dealing now with politics, but also in general, I feel when people aren't thanked is like they, or I think about, honestly, I think about, and Ron alludes to this too, but I thought about like motherhood a lot of the times when she says they cling to their fried dough and their big sodas and then they get mad at me when their pants don't fit. And I was like, that's such a parent.

Madi (40:56.332)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (40:58.6)
thing too, which yeah, I do love that metaphor that Ron brings up. Like you can't, you know, get mad at the kid. You're the adult kind of thing. but it does suck because in politics, the people are adults. They're not children, but they act like it, you know? And then she just kind of drives the nail in the coffin with the peepee heads. Like that, that sucked to call them that she didn't, she, she doesn't rein it in at all.

Madi (41:06.711)
Yeah.

Madi (41:13.41)
Right. Absolutely.

Madi (41:22.347)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (41:27.364)
I was kind of think that maybe she'd be like, okay, I'm sorry, I said all that. Like, here's what my actual speech was gonna be. she just kind of gives up and is like, oops, I should probably get off stage by. And it's so cringey, but like you feel for her, man. And Ben's face during the whole thing of like, how do, what? no, it's happening. Right. It's so sad and.

Madi (41:28.109)
No.

Madi (41:35.949)
No.

Yeah.

Madi (41:45.654)
Yeah. no. How am going to damage control this is what his his brain's doing. Yeah.

Holly Constant (41:56.048)
But yeah, I do feel like torn in this moment because it's so sad and it's so like terrible. But like at the same time, you so feel for her in this moment. And I think that's what's the most important thing as an audience member. You so want her to be able to say how she feels and to get this anger out. Or at least for me, that's how I felt.

Madi (42:16.662)
Yeah, because you're also angry at Pawnee. Yeah.

Holly Constant (42:18.938)
Right. Yeah. Because of how much you've seen that she does do for this. And then it just makes it God, it's just insult to injury to hear Heidi Klum talk about how much her town loves her. And then, my gosh, I forgot even about the whole thing with the the pinata and broccoli was inside shaped like Leslie. my God, that is so terrible. That is so bad. hate it.

Madi (42:31.446)
Yeah.

Madi (42:44.289)
Yeah.

Madi (42:47.83)
rough. It's all rough.

Holly Constant (42:48.604)
rough stuff. anyway, yeah, it sucks. And also that something else in her speech too, I thought that was really interesting that she talks about being a public servant her whole life and she's dedicated so much to the people. And I do feel like here she is wishing she would get a thanks, but I feel like even before this and even now, like she just wants to stay in office. When she gets to Ron, she does want the thank you, I think. but here it's like, I think she's just expressing her anger about

I just wanted to serve and now look at what, like what? You know, and it is really confusing. And I wonder, I was wondering if the voters in Pawnee would even care. Like, would it have been enough? Because a part of me feels like they're so hell bent on their lack of growth and their lack of wanting someone to lead them in a good direction that a part of me feels like I don't even know if they'd care if she had a good speech. It would have helped the campaign.

Madi (43:39.811)
Yeah.

Yeah, who knows? Yeah.

Holly Constant (43:44.852)
and maybe would have turned things around and maybe she wouldn't have maybe like in this new vote or whatever, it would have been okay, but I don't know.

Madi (43:53.804)
Well, and the people the people who show up to watch her speech that Jerry puts together, those people are are Leslie fans, I'm going to assume. And I feel like you just lost them. that's true. Yeah. Yeah. But I think like, as somebody who who would look up to her, like losing that, that executive presence that she typically has is so hard because

Holly Constant (44:03.452)
Yeah, maybe. Except for Pinewood. Pinewood was there.

Holly Constant (44:11.966)
But probably.

Yeah.

Holly Constant (44:20.211)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (44:23.53)
It's like, this person that I'm voting for, this person that I've been looking up to just called me and my townspeople, peepee heads. You know, it's so hard. Yeah.

Holly Constant (44:31.334)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. Yeah, it is. No, you're so right. I do love that Silke Borg is going to make a goat cheese statue of Leslie now. Olga, let's start a goat cheese statue.

Madi (44:44.878)
Yeah.

Madi (44:48.408)
So nice.

Holly Constant (44:50.118)
Okay, so Anne and Chris are announcing they are pregnant and Donna immediately guesses it. Donna is so good. Retta is amazing. I love this. And she also notices that Chris changed to boxer briefs. my gosh, even though he was wearing pants, I think that is so brilliant.

Madi (44:59.18)
Yeah.

Madi (45:05.802)
It's amazing. And then Anne being like, please stop looking at him. The whole interaction.

Holly Constant (45:10.492)
Yeah. Yes. Okay, so this is where I'm gonna get into my Anne and Chris little moment. Not critique, but a little bit of a critique. Me as an audience member, I don't know, I feel like when I was watching this, I was like, wait, did we not already know that she's pregnant because of the doctor's office? But then I realized that, okay, now they're just telling people. I don't know, I think that timeline just didn't flow for me. I was like, wait, weren't they pregnant at the end of last season?

Madi (45:16.014)
Do it.

Holly Constant (45:39.476)
And then no, we had just decided that they wanted to get pregnant naturally, but they never figured out how they were actually gonna co-parent, because they had that little conversation. And then they ended it with like, right, no answers, exactly. And they kind of wanted, they were like, they ended the conversation with, okay, I make out. And it's like, okay, but nothing was solved. They never defined the relationship, I think, which isn't necessarily important.

Madi (45:50.038)
No answers though.

Holly Constant (46:04.678)
all the time, but for this particular instance, I feel like I was just confused to be honest with you. And then, and then last episode, I was like, okay, they're clicking, like, as far as like the ring mishap where they just got, you know, manicures together. And I don't know, I feel like it's still kind of weird to me. It was like kind of choppy to, guess the storyline, because when they are the doctor's office, I think in my head, I was like, this is a checkup, not but I think it was actually the confirmation of the pregnancy, like that first

Madi (46:10.508)
Yeah.

Madi (46:34.766)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (46:35.003)
like doctor's appointment that you go to to make sure that you're pregnant. I don't know why in my head I was like, no, they knew they were pregnant. Like they, you know, we've already talked about this. I guess this is where we're going. And I guess I just thought that this was like, you know, a regular old checkup when they already knew they were pregnant, because they'd been talking about it forever. And I think in my head, I was just like, this, it just didn't flow for me. When they were telling people, I was like, I thought we, I don't know.

Madi (46:57.814)
Yeah. Yeah.

Well, and for me, I feel like the first people you tell are Leslie and Ben. cause what if Leslie gets, yeah, but what if Leslie gets back and like Donna tells her because she accidentally, you know, thanks that Leslie already knows. Like, I don't know for me, I had that note at the end where it was like, how's Leslie not know yet? Like, and I understand they probably found out while she was in London, but I don't know. It does seem very like.

Holly Constant (47:06.553)
Yeah, but they weren't there.

Holly Constant (47:14.801)
Right.

Holly Constant (47:21.857)
Right?

Madi (47:29.26)
let's walk around city hall and tell people that we're pregnant. and it's very like, yeah, it's just very interesting. It's like they're trying to use them telling people together to help build the view of them as a couple in our heads as the audience.

Holly Constant (47:34.085)
Yeah!

Holly Constant (47:45.662)
maybe that's yeah, that's a good point. That's what it is probably.

Madi (47:49.696)
Yeah, but it just, feels still a little, it still feels just disjointed. I see what they were trying to do, but it still just feels disjointed.

Holly Constant (47:57.798)
Yes, disjointed, great word. Yeah, I also felt like when they're having their little conversation after they're freaked out about everybody knowing and she's like, for so long it was just our thing and now everybody knows and I was like, first of all, was it though? You talked about Tom, you talked to Tom about getting back together and like, really, I mean, maybe the pregnancy was just your thing but then.

Secondly, you decided to tell everybody. So how's it just gonna, I understand that she was like, just observing like, this was our thing. Now it's everybody's and maybe I like didn't expect to feel this way after we told everybody or something. But in my head, I was like, that doesn't match for me for some reason. I'm sure it matches for some people, but for me, it just didn't really like click.

Madi (48:49.228)
Yeah, the the entire sentiment behind that clicks for me. Because when you make that decision to tell people like you get to live in your bubble for, you know, however long you decide to live in that bubble of we're just celebrating. No.

Holly Constant (48:53.95)
sure.

Holly Constant (49:00.851)
Right.

Holly Constant (49:05.346)
Madi (49:10.542)
you

Holly Constant (49:43.645)
you

Holly Constant (51:46.231)
my gosh.

Holly Constant (51:52.471)
Can hear me?

Madi (52:08.598)
I can see you now.

Holly Constant (52:10.421)
Okay.

Madi (52:13.038)
but I can't hear you.

Holly Constant (52:17.333)
says trying to reconnect.

Holly Constant (52:30.443)
Hello?

Madi (52:30.946)
Hello?

Holly Constant (52:45.217)
Okay, is it better?

Holly Constant (52:49.261)
Hello? Okay. my God! I tried to connect to my slow one. I tried to use my iPhone as a hotspot. Now I'm back on the other one, the fast one. I don't understand.

Madi (52:50.702)
Hello, there you are.

Madi (53:03.414)
Yeah, that's really weird.

Holly Constant (53:04.417)
Okay, well, I'm sorry that I cut you off. Okay. So you were talking about you understand that sentiment because, like when you start to tell people.

Madi (53:07.715)
That's okay.

Madi (53:11.948)
Yeah, because you have. Yeah, because, you know, you're kind of living in this bubble together like no one else knows that you're starting your family. And it was a very intentional decision for us how long we were going to keep it between the two of us and just bask in. And that and and get your feelings around it, right? I know they were really like, I know that they were really intentional. mean, we were intentional as well, but you still have your feelings about it that you got to.

Holly Constant (53:32.992)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (53:39.627)
Yeah.

Madi (53:41.556)
know, get through. So I understand what she's saying, but like, you've been so open about this whole process with everyone. Like everyone now knows that you're trying to have this baby naturally. It's just been so, I think that's why everybody's kind of nonchalant about it. Except for Leslie, you know.

Holly Constant (53:58.201)
Yeah, right, because it's classic. Yeah, so I am happy for them. I don't want to get it twisted. I am happy for them and I want it to, you know, everything is wonderful for them. I'm, you know, but it was just like weird for me as per usual with this relationship. Now, I will say I think they're going to make a great baby. I think they're going to make great parents and their baby is going to be beautiful because they're both beautiful and they're both lovely people and perfect. But yeah, just the the

Madi (54:02.231)
Yeah.

Madi (54:14.253)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (54:27.011)
combining of those two forces of those two characters was like in the pregnancy anyway was kind of like okay all right I gotta wrap my head back around this

Madi (54:34.893)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (54:40.195)
So, okay. Let's see, Jerry calls Leslie and breaks the sad news even though he meant really well. First of all, she doesn't remember Jerry, which I think is hilarious. Jerry who?

Madi (54:41.966)
Perfect.

Madi (54:52.462)
That's so funny. So well acted. And then she's so upset when she finds out it's Jerry Gurgich. She's like, Jerry. Yeah, which damn what a callback. International minutes. Yeah.

Holly Constant (54:54.499)
I know.

Holly Constant (54:59.863)
waste my international minutes.

I know, right? Totally. So he livestreamed the speech and everybody saw it, which is terrible for her campaign. They saw that she hates Pawnee now or thinks Pawnee sucks anyway. And it just sucks. There is a deleted scene where Leslie panics slash spirals again, going back to where I had said it would be cool if she had spiraled at the beginning of the episode, like after she finds out that the speech was

Madi (55:19.373)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (55:34.253)
broadcast and funny. There is one, but it was cut out where she was like, okay, it's fine. I'll fake my death. I'll go live in Silkeborg. And Rana's like, I think we need to get some fresh air. And this is when they're at the bench.

Madi (55:45.038)
Yeah.

Madi (55:51.776)
Yeah, a beautiful view, by the way. Yeah.

Holly Constant (55:53.411)
Beautiful view. And while I'm here talking about deleted scenes, she does get back to Pawnee and she does apologize. I think that was something that it didn't show in this episode, was, you know, neither here nor there really, but it is kind of important in a way because I kind of wish they wouldn't cut it, because that's so Leslie. She did apologize. She did, you know, kind of say, I'm on your side and...

Madi (56:15.917)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (56:18.699)
In my head when I saw her apologize, because she did say like, I'm so sorry, blah, blah, a part of me was like, you don't really owe them anything. You don't need to say sorry, they owe you something. But as a politician, like back to Ron's thing of you're the adult here, she is a public servant, which means that an apology is the best thing to do. And she goes on Purge Show to give that apology. So that's interesting. And speaking of, yeah, exactly.

Madi (56:33.155)
Yeah.

Madi (56:40.47)
Yeah, good. Yeah, I'm glad because we didn't see that.

Holly Constant (56:44.786)
Speaking of that, I did record some of these deleted scenes, let's go and let's see. I'll play them right now.

Madi (57:03.406)
my gosh.

Holly Constant (57:03.651)
funny deleted scene because yeah, Leslie does what Pert always does. And then I think this is the apology.

Madi (57:08.78)
Yeah, my gosh, that's so funny.

Holly Constant (58:02.649)
It goes on further, but I thought that was the point essentially and I think that's such a good growth moment for Leslie too Which we'll talk about a bit a little bit later when she mentions it too that now she wants to travel her world is expanding I do too. I do too

Madi (58:15.746)
Yeah, I love that. I love that for both of them.

Holly Constant (58:20.033)
Alright, so let's see here. Ron takes Leslie outside to get some fresh air and cool off and Leslie is saying she doesn't feel bad about what she said. And for Leslie to say, kind of back to my point, where for Leslie to say that Pawnee has been really pissing me off lately, that was a big deal to me.

Madi (58:38.218)
Yeah, that's heavy.

Holly Constant (58:39.267)
That's really heavy. She's getting jaded. And that's something you never think that Leslie, especially in the first few seasons, you would think that she would get jaded. But I think that's so wonderful and integral to her story and how far she's come and also like what this does to you to be a public servant. Like you don't stay as optimistic and as positive when you've been beaten down. It's so hard to stay motivated to continue to do the work.

Madi (59:04.236)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (59:06.009)
So I think that was really interesting for them to show that and super cool Mm-hmm very human and This is where Ron says, you know, you have to be the grown-up and I love Amy Poehler's like I know you're right, but it's a war Ron like

Madi (59:11.564)
very human.

Madi (59:21.591)
It is.

Yeah. Yeah, you need somebody in your life you can have these conversations with where it's like, I'm going to show you how frustrated I am, I'm going to get to act like the kid for a second, because I'm so pissed off. And then I can go be the adult I have to be in my job.

Holly Constant (59:25.465)
Ha

Holly Constant (59:39.595)
Yeah, and I disagree that you can't be upset when no one thanks you when he says that, but you just can't make that your whole reason for stopping. And he does make a good point that April did thank her. Back to your point too, April did thank her and does respect her. And going back to last week about how that was so beautiful to see her show love for Leslie and encourage her. And you're right, that people did vote for her. So there are people on her side. It's just hard to see right now.

Madi (01:00:05.196)
Yeah. Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:00:07.513)
And it's so true what he says about don't start chasing a plot and a claim that way lies madness. That's so real for no matter what industry you're in.

Madi (01:00:16.5)
Absolutely. Yeah, if you lose the heart you have for it, it's not good for anybody. Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:00:20.301)
so hard. Yeah. So this is where Leslie gives him the wedding gift. I don't know how she did this. I'm looking back of how, like what, how did she do this? Did she try, I don't know, who did she talk to? Does she travel herself to do this to make sure everything will work out? Like what? So crazy.

Madi (01:00:39.276)
Yeah, travel agent maybe.

Holly Constant (01:00:40.321)
Yeah, maybe. And then Ron starts to understand that there's lots of things he loves about Europe and he's not even opening his eyes to the fact that there's like 8,000 pubs and that's what the UK loves to drink. Like, come on! And butcher shops, hello? my God. And yeah, so he's gonna learn some more amazing things too that Leslie leads him to find in Scotland, hello? So that's awesome.

Madi (01:00:55.618)
Hello, yeah, love a good pub.

Madi (01:01:07.178)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:01:07.865)
So now Ann and Chris goes to Jerry They go to Jerry to tell him that Ann is pregnant and my gosh Jerry had to cancel his cardiologist appointment to work. my god, Jerry Yes

Madi (01:01:21.386)
poor Jerry. But also, he makes this so gross and awkward.

Holly Constant (01:01:26.251)
It's so gross and disgusting. This is one of the parts, I think, in this show when I was actually on in Chris's side a tiny bit. After he does this part. Right now, where Chris cuts him off and says, like, here's a piece of information that is interesting. I was like, Chris, that was rude.

Madi (01:01:43.758)
Ugh, rude.

Holly Constant (01:01:45.635)
but okay, and then Jerry starts to talk about the pregnancy and ew, they both hate the things he's saying, clothes feeling tight, everyone rubbing your belly. Jerry gained sympathy weight and looked a lot like Kris before this and Kris is like, I'm very sad, please stop talking. And then the milk thing, my God, so gross, as he's drinking milk, it's on his lips and Jim O'Hara did a great job at this, like applause.

Madi (01:02:00.567)
Yeah.

Madi (01:02:11.01)
he did it's so uncomfortable.

Holly Constant (01:02:12.939)
It's so uncomfortable and yeah, for the first time I was like, Jerry, shut up, stop it. But like what's so beautiful I think and what I'm glad that they did was have him kind of round out that speech monologue, whatever thing with like, life is so beautiful. Cause Jerry doesn't even know how this is disgusting to them.

Madi (01:02:19.159)
Yeah.

Madi (01:02:30.272)
Yeah. Yeah.

I know it and it's showing his real sentiment behind it right is like, he's just, yeah, the miracle of life. That it's something with the, it's got to be something with Mike Scherr and Greg Daniels that this whole vibe because in the office, it's Kevin, and he cries at Pam's boobs. And it's so uncomfortable. And I would I can't believe Pam, because I'm going to be real with you. I would have bitch slapped someone if they did that to me. Like

Holly Constant (01:02:38.073)
Absolutely. The genuineness.

Holly Constant (01:02:52.424)
yeah. Yes.

Holly Constant (01:03:01.646)
Right. Right. That's so effed.

Madi (01:03:06.67)
my gosh. Yeah, it makes me so infuriated to still watch those scenes now. And even though I've seen him 50 times. Yeah, it's just yeah. So very interesting. But yes, I like that your your point that it rounds out at the end that he's really just a dad like remembering the miracle of life and as gross as he is.

Holly Constant (01:03:12.671)
Right? I know. Yeah. Tough stuff.

Holly Constant (01:03:23.167)
Right. Yes, exactly. So now Andy and April are on the London Eye, which I really want to do sometime. I've never done that, even though I've been to London. I think that would be really cool.

Madi (01:03:36.62)
Yeah, I would love to do that as well. I have a scaredy cat husband that doesn't like heights, but maybe we can do it together.

Holly Constant (01:03:37.963)
Yeah. Bummer. Yeah, we'll do it together. That's fine. So, but we did do the Vegas one.

Madi (01:03:49.718)
Yeah, we did. yeah. What a great moment that was. Yeah, it's just you, me and Connor.

Holly Constant (01:03:52.491)
I know, that was fun.

Holly Constant (01:03:57.593)
was wondering who else. I knew it was you, me, and Connor. was like, was anyone else there? That's nice. I don't think so either. That's so nice. Cute. Okay. So the other thing that they're talking about is that Andy didn't notice they drive on the other side of the road, which I thought was really hilarious to me.

Madi (01:04:02.188)
I don't think so. think it was just the three of us. Yeah. Yeah.

Madi (01:04:16.613)
Hilarious. could be because he has to have been in a car.

Holly Constant (01:04:19.361)
Right, yeah. Right.

Madi (01:04:21.612)
Because they like the airport isn't like, well, I guess they could have taken the subway. But why? I don't know. Anyway, I just it's like, yeah, you've gotten into a car and didn't realize that the driver was on the other side.

Holly Constant (01:04:26.242)
Right.

Holly Constant (01:04:33.049)
And then the other thing that's different for him because they're talking about like everything's backwards here How was he gonna do this job for Lord Covington? Lord fancy face as they call him, which I love And the other thing that's different is Piccadilly Circus, which is not a circus I don't know if you saw this but I am IMDB had a thing that said that it could be a Jethro Tull reference to their song mother goose because the lyrics say

Madi (01:04:45.09)
Yes.

Madi (01:04:49.653)
No it is not.

Madi (01:04:58.924)
Holly Constant (01:04:59.161)
And the foreign student said to me, it really true there are elephants, lions too in Piccadilly Circus? And the bearded lady said to me, if you start your raving and you're misbehaving, you'll be sorry. I was like, oh, that's interesting. I wonder.

Madi (01:05:12.29)
That is interesting. I did see that, but I didn't like look up the song or anything. But yeah, huh. Yeah, it is not by the way a circus. It's kind of like London's Times Square is my understanding. Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:05:14.551)
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, maybe. Correct.

Yeah, yeah, it's so funny to me. Anyway, they're talking about how Andy could possibly do this because he doesn't know how to do it and is really scared. And I love seeing April's support. It's so beautiful.

Madi (01:05:40.544)
Yeah, she's doing a great I have a comment that says good wiping April. Like she did such a great job. You know, hey, we're gonna get through it. Like you got to do it. You got to do for you. And I think that's Yeah, she did a great job.

Holly Constant (01:05:44.139)
Yeah, very good job.

Holly Constant (01:05:52.941)
Yeah, I'm bringing up the point that she was in Washington last year. So, you know, they can, they've done it before, they can do it again. I also love that this funny comment of, you know, he doesn't know how to run a nonprofit. And she was like, you shine shoes and never made a profit. you can do. So he basically ran a nonprofit. That was really funny to me.

Madi (01:06:00.728)
Yep.

Madi (01:06:08.48)
Yeah, same thing. Yeah, same thing.

my gosh, yes.

Holly Constant (01:06:17.539)
So Tom is now with the lawyers and all the Sapersteens except the mom, which I was wondering where the mom was, but we do touch on that later. She turned 30 and the dad kicked her out. So that's lovely. Hate that. I love that Tom is still using the word Trill. Can I say how Trill it is to be here? I love that. Addressing people in a dope conference room or whatever he says. It's so funny.

Madi (01:06:25.325)
Yeah.

It's Yeah, great.

Madi (01:06:36.778)
Yes.

cash.

Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:06:44.993)
love this dynamic between all the Sapersteens. I know it's shitty and I do hate it, but these characters together are so fun.

Madi (01:06:53.73)
Well, yeah, and the actors, they all gel really well together and yeah, yeah, it's infuriating, but yeah.

Holly Constant (01:06:56.099)
Yes, love they call him daddy. Yeah, it's, yeah, it is infuriating. But I do love that they call him daddy still, daddy D.

Holly Constant (01:07:09.529)
And my gosh, yeah, John Ralphio lied about everything for his entire life. Trophies at baaack. He never went to math camp, doesn't even know what a math camp is.

Madi (01:07:17.506)
Gosh, I don't even know what that is. Yeah. gosh.

Holly Constant (01:07:23.233)
my gosh. then Mona Lisa's moment that I truly say all of the time when she's like, not this part that I have done nothing wrong ever. I know this, her dad says, but the GIF animation thing that I use all the time in the line that I always say is money, please. Money, please.

Madi (01:07:35.534)
It's so good.

Madi (01:07:43.182)
Samzies. so good.

Holly Constant (01:07:45.465)
I love it so much. And I love that Dr. Saperstein just gives it to her. He just is like, okay, yeah, I have cash, here you go, And yeah, oh my God. And Tom is like, look, I'll do respect. Like your kids are crazy and terrible. I love John Ralphio, but he's insane. So drop this, yes. And also the lawyer does look like Beaker from The Muppets.

Madi (01:07:52.758)
Yeah. Some people live their life like that.

Madi (01:08:05.866)
disaster.

Madi (01:08:10.817)
Who does? Yeah. It's not wrong. She's not wrong.

Holly Constant (01:08:14.283)
Not wrong. And then Dr. Saperstein says he's not gonna give up the business even though he knows that it's not the truth anymore. It's making money now so even though they lied he's just gonna keep going. So annoying, I hate.

Madi (01:08:30.318)
Yeah, I agree. It's awful.

Holly Constant (01:08:31.129)
The rich get richer, it's so annoying because Dr. Saperstein you already have money, what are you doing honey? Oh my god.

Madi (01:08:36.182)
Yeah. Yeah, it's so frustrating. I have to say there's such a juxtaposition in this episode between Leslie and Tom. This whole series or the majority of the series, Tom has been like a kid and has needs a lot of direction and needs a lot of support. And Leslie's the adult. And in this episode, she's throwing a tantrum and Tom is he's like dadding all these people right now. And it was really cool to see him in that.

Holly Constant (01:08:44.345)
Mm.

Holly Constant (01:09:00.117)
Yeah, yeah. That's interesting.

Madi (01:09:06.113)
in that sphere.

Holly Constant (01:09:06.775)
Yeah, yeah, that's really cool. Yeah, and then the sappers scenes just go on like nothing happened. And okay, I'll see you guys for dinner tonight. my God. And then Thomas just left with his head in his hands essentially and I'm like, no.

Madi (01:09:22.688)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:09:24.961)
I was also going to point out that it is kind of sad because we move on to Anne and Chris wanting to tell Leslie now and how she landed and everything. And it is kind of sad that Anne didn't get to go to Washington or London because I would have loved to see two BFFs hanging out outside of Pawnee.

Madi (01:09:38.306)
Yeah, for real. Yeah, and they never do anything like that.

Holly Constant (01:09:43.381)
Right, I know. Ethel Bevers doesn't care about Anne and Chris, which I love. She's right. She does barely know you. Like, why would she care? And I love this. I don't have to talk to you unless it's about work.

Madi (01:09:49.261)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:09:57.081)
Rest in peace, Helen Slayton Hughes. my gosh, she's so good. I love her. Okay, so they get excited because they know Leslie's about to land and she's the one that's excited, which is so wonderful. And I do love this dynamic. This is really important to keep the Ann and Leslie friendship alive. And we cut to them squeezing each other, which is so cute. I love that.

Madi (01:09:58.582)
I love that.

Madi (01:10:02.262)
Yeah.

Madi (01:10:23.726)
I love them together so much. I'm sorry there was an ant on my microphone. They are my least favorite thing in the entire world. I hate them.

Holly Constant (01:10:27.472)
no!

Holly Constant (01:10:31.11)
Ugh! Are they the little tiny ones or the big ones?

Madi (01:10:34.158)
tiny ones I hate them so much

Holly Constant (01:10:38.217)
my god, the tiny ones are like, and then they come in like huge clusters.

Madi (01:10:40.855)
and I didn't.

Madi (01:10:45.282)
Yes. So I'm sorry I got distracted, but I was like, something's moving on my microphone.

Holly Constant (01:10:47.073)
No, you're fine. I literally hate that. We've had like the carpenter ants lately, the bigger ones. I think it's because it's the summertime. I don't know. Anyways, I'm so sorry. Zen.

Madi (01:10:54.126)
Yeah.

Madi (01:11:00.142)
It's okay. It's okay. But yes, this whole little scene with Leslie and the jet lag and the crab. I love it so much. So well acted. Her little like side eye like, I know you're not a crab.

Holly Constant (01:11:07.627)
Yes, it's so good.

Holly Constant (01:11:13.451)
I know what's a-in.

Yes. It says she took a sleeping pill then changed her mind. So she took Zapfigil apparently. And I looked that up and there isn't one called that, but there is a Modafinil. I don't know how you pronounce it. Modafinil, I don't know, sold under the name Provagil, which is a nervous system stimulant and wakefulness promoter. Some people compare it to Adderall. I'm not a doctor, so don't take any medical advice from me, okay? I'm just telling you what I found on Google. That doesn't mean that you should start taking those medicines.

Madi (01:11:40.078)
Okay.

Holly Constant (01:11:47.351)
I'm just telling you what I found on Google. Okay? Anyhow. But I think, Provigil and Zapvigil sound similar, so maybe they got the idea from them. But anyhow, so yeah, she thinks that Ann is a crab. my God, don't pinch me. I love that she's like, has her karate hands. It's so funny. Well, so now Ron is on his treasure hunt that Leslie gave him. And I-

Madi (01:11:55.49)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Madi (01:12:08.352)
Yeah, it's so good. my gosh.

Holly Constant (01:12:16.003)
about filming there. don't I need to look up maybe if Norm Hisscock was still a part of the producing team at this point or something because I know he would answer me but I'm not sure if he was in season six so I need to look that up because I want to know about like permits and stuff like were there other people on that train that Ron was on did they just buy a ticket and shoot on there or did they rent the whole train or you know how did that work I wonder.

Madi (01:12:28.366)
Mm.

Madi (01:12:40.384)
Yeah, great questions. Would be fascinating to know.

Holly Constant (01:12:41.495)
Yeah, so I'm gonna try to figure that out. Okay, so Leslie is now cleaning the slugs off of Gretel's sidewalk with April, and she's not at all happy about it. So annoying. You know, like you seriously, this is again the fried dough thing line where it's like you asked about getting rid of the slugs and now you're mad at her for doing it. I don't want all the slugs gone. And I'm just like, ugh, so annoying.

Madi (01:12:46.659)
nice.

Madi (01:13:05.101)
Yeah.

Madi (01:13:10.786)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:13:11.373)
But that was Leslie's point as far as taking Ron's note to heart, essentially, and saying, that's not why we do this. We don't do this for the thanks. And I did look it up, and I did a lot of research on this episode, guess. Random research. But I looked it up, and they say, these articles I found say that it's not always effective, like the coffee and slugs thing, but it can help.

Madi (01:13:22.616)
Yep.

Madi (01:13:35.843)
Mm.

Holly Constant (01:13:36.995)
Caffeine is apparently toxic to slugs and they don't like the smell, so that drives them away, but not always. And it also says that a caffeine solution is more effective than just the coffee grounds, which I don't really know what that means. Like maybe that's coffee or like there is like a pure caffeine like liquid that you can find online. So I don't know if that's what it is that they're talking about that's more effective. Also, some say that they don't like to crawl over the ground coffee because it's like lumpy and hard to crawl over. So sometimes they'll turn back.

Madi (01:13:56.59)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (01:14:06.521)
But that's not right. But that's not like, you know, 100 % effective to get rid of slugs. But apparently the coffee grounds also will help your garden because coffee has nitrogen and that, you know, that was kind of the issue for Gretel, I think, to make sure that the slugs weren't eating her plants and also that they're gross. That's what Gretel said at the first one. Yes.

Madi (01:14:07.82)
sure it gets stuck on them too.

Madi (01:14:15.768)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (01:14:26.52)
Right.

Madi (01:14:30.092)
and also their growths.

Holly Constant (01:14:33.497)
And yeah, weirdly there's quite a few forums slash articles on coffee and slugs. So it clearly, you know, has been around, but we're not sure how effective it is. So maybe try it if you see something's eating your plants and then if not, then don't do it anymore.

Madi (01:14:45.07)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (01:14:51.502)
Easy peasy.

Holly Constant (01:14:53.623)
And I love that April can tell that Leslie's upset. Like, yeah, it's, you know.

Madi (01:14:59.052)
Yeah, she's emotionally, way more emotionally intuitive than I think people give her credit for.

Holly Constant (01:15:05.143)
Definitely, especially now that she's getting older and we're further on in the seasons. She's starting to care more about people and really notice things. So that's lovely.

Madi (01:15:08.524)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (01:15:13.516)
Yeah, agreed.

Holly Constant (01:15:15.267)
So Ben is now back to work at Sweetums and Lord Covington gave him like a million Corgis. Apparently Jessica Wick brings them in, which is hilarious. Yeah. And then this is where, I know this lady, but this is where the shot of Andy at Stonehenge keeps coming up because apparently he got on the wrong chain. And in the last episode, I said he kept calling it Stonehenge. That was one of the webisodes that I talked about last week. He's like, this isn't right. I love that he shouts Eddie and like, Eddie?

Madi (01:15:25.159)
boy, this girl.

Madi (01:15:40.557)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:15:45.473)
as if he's just gonna be there.

Madi (01:15:46.733)
Yeah.

Madi (01:15:50.015)
my gosh, I don't even know if trains go out that far.

Holly Constant (01:15:52.249)
Okay, I looked it up. It says, yeah, we have the same train of thought here because by train, it's two hours from London. So he really must just have stayed on there and been like, I guess I'm going right. Yes, and then two hours back, oh my gosh, imagining Andy in a train station trying to get to the right place is kind of scary to be honest. But yeah, it's really far away from London.

Madi (01:15:54.925)
Okay, good.

Madi (01:16:07.574)
He gonna be so late.

Madi (01:16:15.564)
by himself. Yeah, it is. Yeah. That is concerning.

Holly Constant (01:16:22.473)
So anyhow, yeah. So she calls Ben, Jessica Wick calls Ben Sugar Butt and he's thinking that it's the dog name, but it's really him. And I was like, yeah, that is inappropriate a little bit.

Madi (01:16:23.596)
Yeah. Yikes.

Madi (01:16:34.968)
dog.

Madi (01:16:38.656)
Mm-hmm, agreed, yeah.

Holly Constant (01:16:41.05)
yes. So our next scene is where John Raphael talks about his mom and how Dr. Saperstein told her to get out when she was 30, which I was like, ew, this family, get out of here. I love them so much as characters, but damn, they're terrible.

Madi (01:16:50.85)
Yeah.

Yeah, but you're awful people.

Holly Constant (01:16:57.177)
And then I was like, honestly Tom, cause he was comparing himself to who he thinks he should be at this point, and I was like, you don't wanna be Zuckerberg anyway, okay? You don't wanna be him. Okay, so that's good that you're not him, Tom. That's good. I did have to look up who the Winklevoss twins were, cause I knew that name, but I didn't really know who they were.

Madi (01:17:06.188)
Yeah, no, absolutely not.

Holly Constant (01:17:17.913)
So I'm just going to read what I found. And I literally just copy and pasted this from Google. they, Cameron and Tyler are their first names, American entrepreneurs and investors known for co-founding the cryptocurrency exchange Gemini and for their legal dispute with Mark Zuckerberg over the creation of Facebook. They also competed as rowers for the United States in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, which I did not know.

Madi (01:17:44.482)
I actually don't think I knew that either. That's cool. Very cool. I did know they rode.

Holly Constant (01:17:45.817)
Yeah, yeah. So I think everybody. Yeah. I feel like everybody got in fights with who started Facebook and Zuckerberg was just like, fuck you guys, bye. OK. I'm laughing because I am crying, too. All right. Moving on. John Ralphio is definitely on Tom's side, which I love this. I'm basically babyface. You're basically babyface. So funny. And.

Madi (01:17:58.434)
Mm-hmm.

Madi (01:18:03.306)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Madi (01:18:11.969)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:18:15.363)
So it's kind of cute that John Relfio is still supporting Tom, even though he knows that his dad is a terrible person. But a part of me is like, you know that what's happening is bad, yet you still are like, whatever, it's a win-win for me. But he does hype Tom up, and I think that's what I'm gonna focus on.

Madi (01:18:24.385)
Yeah.

Madi (01:18:36.598)
Yeah, yeah, he has some redeeming qualities.

Holly Constant (01:18:39.849)
Right. And he's asking Tom if he wants to come to dinner with him and his dad. And I'm like, my God, so unaware, but also fully aware at the same time because he just said it, but he just doesn't care. All right. Right. Exactly. So this is where we get to Anne and Chris moment about, you know, it was once their thing and now it's everybody else's thing.

Madi (01:18:46.934)
Yeah.

Madi (01:18:50.902)
Yeah, there are no rules for John Ralphiel.

Holly Constant (01:19:05.267)
And like I said, I think the thing I'm holding onto, this is where I had my note that Ann and Chris are just both great people and cute people and they'll make a great baby. So I wanted to be more invested and interested and involved. And it's kind of sad that I'm like not feeling it at this moment, but that's the thing that I'm holding onto that they're both great people and they're going to make a great baby.

Madi (01:19:14.158)
Yeah.

Madi (01:19:26.456)
They are, that they are. Chris needs to calm down though, like on this sodium stuff.

Holly Constant (01:19:31.189)
Yeah. Yeah. It is kind of nice that she, it's like, it's like their own thing. Sometimes you just don't get a relationship, but they are, I think that they're trying to do a good job of like, Anna's into him, no matter how crazy he is in a way. Like when she said like, I would prefer chickpea, that whole thing. And she's just like laughing or smiling with him. And I'm like, okay, I guess they get each other and that's nice.

Madi (01:19:58.754)
Yeah. Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:20:00.313)
And it is cute, I read on IMDB and I totally forgot about this, that they do name their first kid Oliver. So maybe that's a call back to Olive. I don't know if they did that on purpose, but I'm sure they did. I'm gonna say they did. Yeah. my gosh. Okay, so this is where April Reads Leslie, the submission, which is so beautiful. Which side note, the road kills scrape-a-thon. Ew. Hate this.

Madi (01:20:07.458)
They do. Yeah.

Madi (01:20:13.516)
I'm sure they did. It's too close.

Madi (01:20:27.086)
Gross. Yeah. No. Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:20:28.587)
Love that Leslie starts crying immediately. Like she hasn't even started reading and she's like burst into tears.

Madi (01:20:35.649)
That's so funny. My note literally says crying immediately. yeah. Sincerely, Satan.

Holly Constant (01:20:38.205)
Mm-hmm. my god. And this is where, sincerely Satan, I love that. my god. April is like Ron in a way, where she's really becoming a softie, but on the outside she has a hard shell.

this is where it made me cry with April's words over Ron's trip. That was exceptional. I loved it. It was emotional. It was deep. was perfect. The whole line of, if you're lucky to know Leslie, she is only going to make your life better. And she spends all of her time trying to make your life better. And I was like, it's such a great message, like positivity over apathy. Like when she says that, you know, nobody in this town really cares about anything.

Madi (01:21:01.838)
Hmm.

Holly Constant (01:21:23.821)
but Leslie does, like she actually truly cares and this whole like empathy over selfishness. It's just so powerful. And I just thought it was so beautiful. And especially with like the visual scenery of how beautiful the, bluffs and everything were that Ron was going on. And then not only is Leslie like making April's life better by being a mentor to her. And now April's repaying that, but Leslie's also making Ron's life better.

Madi (01:21:27.107)
Yeah.

Madi (01:21:44.919)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:21:53.271)
And it was just, it's just so beautiful friendship and positivity and hope is so powerful.

Madi (01:22:02.11)
Absolutely. Yeah. When everything else has gone wrong, you've got these people in your life. Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:22:05.933)
Yeah, it's so nice. And then they're gonna hug each other. That's a really beautiful, Leslie runs after April to hug her. It's so cute. I love it. Okay, yeah, so I was just gonna briefly mention that all those scenes of Ron like walking around and being at the house, getting a hat, all these things, those are all the webisodes. So like they made actual scenes and then they just spliced them into this little montage. And that hat that he's wearing on the boat,

Madi (01:22:17.024)
Yeah. Yeah.

Madi (01:22:33.806)
Very cool.

Holly Constant (01:22:35.245)
was given to him by a lighthouse guy. So that was really cute. Just a little behind the scenes moment. I love that. And yeah, it is. And that tag at the end where he's at the Lagavulin place, again, that was all webisodes. Those were full episodes, kind of. So it's so beautiful. my god.

Madi (01:22:42.946)
Wow. Cool. Yeah, that's awesome.

Madi (01:23:00.632)
Very cool.

Holly Constant (01:23:01.593)
my gosh, and then the poem, are you kidding me? I already started crying at the other thing, and then the poem happened and Ron gets choked up too. It's so beautiful.

Madi (01:23:04.736)
Ugh.

Madi (01:23:11.904)
Yeah, when Ron gets choked up, it's so easy to get choked up because he just doesn't get choked up by things very easily. So, yeah.

Holly Constant (01:23:17.451)
Yes! And then at the end, I don't know what she thought I'd get from that. Whatever, I'm not crying.

Madi (01:23:25.461)
What a rons response.

Holly Constant (01:23:26.937)
Totally, so lovely. I did look it up, side note. Lagavulin, the distillery, is about a 12 hour train ride or 10 hours from car from London. So I don't know how they did that. I guess they spent a couple extra days there. I can't imagine bringing the whole crew and everything, like all your equipment, everything and whatever. I don't know, that must've been wild.

Madi (01:23:54.7)
wonder yeah that's crazy

Holly Constant (01:23:55.897)
Because I was thinking the main reason, not main reason, but one of reasons I looked it up was because, know, Brooklyn lives in the UK now. And I was like, how long would it take us to get to Lagavulin if I go and visit her? And I was like, that's a long time, but we can make it work. But I was like, maybe it won't be that far, but it is.

Madi (01:24:04.183)
Yeah.

Madi (01:24:08.15)
Yeah. That is...

Madi (01:24:15.725)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:24:16.023)
It's like a full day. anyhow, I guess we could stop in the middle and take pauses and sightsee or whatever. So there is a way. All right, so we're rounding it out. Leslie and Ben are at their beautiful sunflower mural back in Pawnee. this is so this is again back to kind of that deleted scene with Perd when she's talking about traveling. It's so kind of shocking to me as an audience member.

Madi (01:24:19.19)
Yeah. Yikes.

Yeah. Yeah. There's a way.

Madi (01:24:36.801)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:24:43.945)
and perfect and wonderful that she's talking about loving Pawnee, but there's so much more she wants to see and do. And this is the first time that she's really talked about how do we expand our horizons here? I want to see other things. Pawnee is like so beautiful and lovely, but there's a whole world out there. And I love that.

Madi (01:24:50.871)
Yeah.

Madi (01:25:02.838)
Yeah, I think we've talked about that in the past too, like in the early seasons about how like, she's so narrow minded in Pawnee. And she doesn't ever want to leave. She's like, this is this is it. And it's almost like these negative things that are happening are a gift to her because it's gonna allow her to leave and see other parts of the world and then choose to return to Pawnee, but not be stuck there.

Holly Constant (01:25:09.859)
Mm-hmm.

Holly Constant (01:25:20.749)
Mmm.

Holly Constant (01:25:26.795)
Exactly. Yes, I love that. And it's also, I think it's so cool to see, like at the beginning she was saying, I know Pawnee isn't London or Paris. Like when she wrote her book and she was like the best in the town or whatever, or the best town in America, whatever it's called, sorry. But she says that, you know, like I know this isn't Paris, but.

Madi (01:25:48.088)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:25:53.771)
I love Pawnee, but I think now she's actually seeing like Paris is cool though. Like London is cool though. Like other things are really cool. so I just love that illustration. That's really cool.

Madi (01:25:59.574)
Yeah, I should go to Paris. Yeah.

Madi (01:26:08.834)
Yeah, same.

Holly Constant (01:26:09.657)
Yeah, and I had a note here. I thought this was perfect timing for the show and it's really interesting to just compare it to other TV shows because in this time, like in this like season, season six, season five kind of thing is where you really do need a good old fashioned shake up, I feel, and you need something like different. Like we need to figure out where we're going here. And I was comparing it to friends. Like I was like, my gosh, that's so true. Cause season six is where Ross and Rachel get married in Vegas and you're just like, what?

Madi (01:26:27.276)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:26:37.461)
And season five is where Chandler and Monica get together, like at the end of season five. I mean, it's also where Ross says Rachel's name, like that's a whole thing. So season five, season six, feel is like a really like, okay, what are we doing? Where are we gonna go from here? And Monica and Chandler getting together was like one of the biggest like shakeups I feel for the show because you did not see that coming. And I thought that was really cool. for me, didn't really, I mean, I could see Leslie going somewhere else, but

Madi (01:26:38.691)
Yeah.

Madi (01:26:53.976)
Yep.

Holly Constant (01:27:06.649)
I didn't really anticipate her thinking, I want to go travel and not be in Pawnee. You know what I mean? Or even, again, you could see that she was going to maybe be something bigger than city council, but I didn't really anticipate like, you could run for Congress. You could do something in the Department of Interior. didn't, I guess, which I maybe is.

Madi (01:27:14.796)
Yeah, yeah.

Holly Constant (01:27:31.071)
you know, something that the writers did because she was so focused, like you said, narrow-minded on Pawnee. So I think that's really interesting to have something, you know, different and new.

Madi (01:27:41.344)
Yeah, absolutely. The office does it too. At the end of season five, Charles Minor comes in and Michael goes off and starts Michael Scott Paper Company and he comes back. But then we find out that Jim and Pam are pregnant. Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:27:46.03)
yeah!

Holly Constant (01:27:52.247)
Right, yeah, see that, exactly. Yeah, I really love looking at those parallels and being like, how did the writers make season five, season six? Yes, yeah, totally. Love that. Okay, so let's see. yeah, Leslie got a barrister wig, which by the way, a barrister is a legal advocate or lawyer for Ben and she thinks it's gonna be sexy, but nope, failed experiment.

Madi (01:28:00.728)
Keep it nil. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Madi (01:28:16.204)
Yeah, failed experiment. Same though. He put that on and I was like, yikes.

Holly Constant (01:28:22.637)
Ben was like, what's up?

Madi (01:28:25.526)
Yeah, he tried. He did it for her. So funny.

Holly Constant (01:28:27.481)
He did. Okay, so I did look up also why they wore wigs. I was like, why did they even do that? I don't understand. Apparently it was a symbol of formality, tradition, and the history of the legal profession. Also, I would need to do deeper research, but something that I found too in one of these articles, I think it was like history.com or something, apparently hair loss was also a big deal around this time.

A part of that was it was a symptom of syphilis, which was spreading, which, you know, if you know anything about history, yeah, that was a big thing. It was like, what is even happening to us? So syphilis was spreading and also lice. That was something that happened around this time. So the hair loss was happening. So I can't say that's like exactly the reason why, but I think that contributed to why they continued to wear the wigs.

Madi (01:29:14.766)
Okay.

Holly Constant (01:29:21.209)
Plus King Louis XIV of France had a balding spot and he wore a wig and he was apparently instrumental in having wigs be like for the elite or for like a person of prominence, like a lawyer or someone that has a little bit more of higher position. And this article says that sometimes they still wear the wigs in England. And I was like, isn't that wild? I'd love to know how many people actually still wear the wigs. It's interesting.

Madi (01:29:32.845)
Yeah.

Madi (01:29:41.154)
Yeah, I've seen that.

Yeah, that's nuts.

Madi (01:29:48.95)
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's like a nod to history.

Holly Constant (01:29:50.964)
Yeah, right, right. So, yeah, I still don't, I can't say I understand it, but that doesn't mean that it's bad. But I think that is really fascinating that around that time, that's what was going on for them to want to continue wearing them. You know what I mean? So and then also, I can't remember, there was another king in England that also wore the wig too, which again, was kind of similar to King Louis, where it was like, well, he's the king. So and he's in a

Madi (01:30:06.861)
Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:30:19.001)
position of prominence, so maybe we should all be wearing that, you know what mean? For our symbolic nature. So, yeah.

Madi (01:30:29.484)
Fascinating.

Holly Constant (01:30:29.985)
Yeah. Okay, well, yeah, that's pretty much it for me for season six, episode two. You got anything else?

Madi (01:30:39.607)
Nope, that was my last note.

Holly Constant (01:30:40.875)
Okay, well, we'll probably take off next week because of the Fourth of July weekend. We hope everyone has a holiday and thank you for listening so far. We have a lot of other things. my gosh, I still can't believe we're in season six and like things are shaking up.

Madi (01:30:56.148)
I know it's nuts. Yeah.

Holly Constant (01:30:57.729)
wild. But thank you for listening. Please don't forget to rate, review, subscribe. Thank you to everyone who has reached out and we appreciate it very much and we'll see you next time.

Madi (01:31:09.239)
Have a great week.