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STEEL KINGS: NFBA Kickoff

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Ready to stop building in a silo and start building with momentum? We sit down with the National Frame Building Association to unpack how post-frame pros turn shared knowledge into faster timelines, safer jobsites, and stronger margins. Joe Shimp (NFBA President) and Morgan Arwood (Membership Director) pull back the curtain on real benefits that matter on Monday morning: OSHA-savvy legal counsel, education that sharpens both field work and business skills, and a network where competitors often become collaborators.

We talk about what a modern trade association can do that a single company can’t: advocate on codes with authority, centralize technical guidance, and curate training that upgrades entire teams. The NFBA’s culture stands out—builders, engineers, and suppliers trade playbooks without the ego. That openness shows up in fewer callbacks, better specs, and crews that grow with the work. We also explore the NFBA Foundation’s scholarships and research, a practical answer to the workforce crunch that every owner feels.

If 2025 left you juggling risk, hiring, and pricing, consider membership your simplest leverage point for 2026. From 401(k) options and tech purchasing programs to webinars and a full curriculum, you get tools that compound. And it all converges at the Oklahoma City Expo, February 25–27—a three‑day sprint where you can meet decision‑makers, test ideas, and leave with a contact list that pays for itself.

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INTRO:

Hey, this is Joel Oney at J Money in the Heart of the Buckeye State. And I want to personally welcome you to today's episode of the Steel Kings podcast with my good friends Jared Ledford and Eric Olson, better known as the Steel Kings. Be sure to check out JmoneyLLC.com for financing solutions for your buildings. And now let's get back to the Steel Kings podcast. Yeah, what I'll tell you, dude, is I am beyond excited. It is time to get motivated about your business. It's time for some personal development. It's time to get out and shake it out here with people. I can tell you that the Steel Kings are there. We are the Steel Kings. Get out in your community everybody to do something good for somebody else.

Jared:

It's Jared and Eric. We are The Steel Kings. Back at you with another episode of the podcast today. Eric we're shot out the cannon, brother. We're on fire today. It's a brand new year. You are getting into 2026 and you are with the Steel Kings. Where else would you rather be at? Eric, what's up, brother?

Eric:

The new intro is super cool. That is like a cool. I mean, I'm like, man, if it wasn't us, I would still watch it.

Jared:

Yeah, yeah. That's the whole idea, bro. We want to generate the excitement. We want to generate the excitement. We want to keep the buzz going. Bro, we man, coming off of Christmas. So we are, it's January the 5th, I think, when you're going to get this episode. And we are, dude, we are super excited for what's ahead of us. Literally. So literally. Yeah, man. Yeah, it's a big year. 2026 is here, and we have some special guests. Real quick, J Money, check those guys out for all your financing needs. We are super proud and thankful to be sponsored by the team over at J Money. They have been super helpful to us and they will be super helpful to you. If you need financing opportunities for your metal buildings, sheds, pole barns, whatever it is, J Money team will help you out. Big thanks to Defined SEO and Cal as well. And brother, we've got the NFBA here. We've been hyping them up for a while. We've been talking about what the NFBA can do for you. So the National Frame Building Association is here in the house with the Steel Kings. What do you think about that?

Eric:

You know, I think it was funny how we started Five Rivers, you know, like uh it was a discussion like a long time ago. And we met Graeber, Tim's been coming, showing up at our shop, you know, a couple different times the past few years.

Jared:

He wouldn't stop.

Eric:

He wouldn't stop, he just kept coming. He's like, guys, you need to stop. And so he said, matter of fact, there is a trade show next week in Knoxville. And I like looked at Heather and I was like, I'm in. And we went, and I remember the first person I talked to, I said, Where are you guys based out of? She said Dayton, Ohio. And then I was like, Oh, okay. And then it was funny, we just was there.

Jared:

So very randomly on purpose. So we figured out that the NFBA is in Dayton. We're in Dayton. It's just a natural fit to have them come on the program. We've enjoyed their trade shows in the past. We're going to talk about the trade show. We're going to talk about what's coming up, but we'll let them kind of surprise us on some things. We've got Joe and Morgan from the NFBA, and I'm going to bring them in the studio now. And we're transitioning. And here they are, Morgan and Joe. It's like you're right here with us.

Morgan Arwood:

Hello.

Jared:

Welcome to Steel Kings Podcast. What's going on, guys? How are you?

Morgan Arwood:

Thank you for having us. Happy New Year.

Jared:

So happy new year. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. So we are celebrating a new year. We're celebrating new opportunities for our listeners. And we thought post frame might be the way we want to start 2026. I think post frame is an exciting place to be in, and nothing's more exciting than the NFBA. Yeah, we've been building pole barns. We've been we've been moving along. So we became a member of the NFBA in 2025. We're super proud of that. And just got to talking to Morgan and thought we might be able to offer something to our listeners as well. So Morgan and Joe. Joe's the president. Morgan is the marketing guru.

Morgan Arwood:

Membership director.

Jared:

Membership director. Okay. So, she handles all the incoming, uh, all the incoming traffic. So, if you need Morgan, this is who you're gonna need. So why don't you guys introduce yourselves to the uh to the listeners and give us a little bit about you, and then we'll jump right into it. That's okay.

Joe Shimp:

Sure, go ahead, Morgan. Okay. Um hey, I'm Joe Shimp. I uh serve on the uh board of the NFBA. Uh I serve as the president right now. Uh been a board member for I believe eight or nine years. Um, so uh this upcoming expo, I will remain the president for this one and then have another year uh in my position as president. So uh grew up in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, around all kinds of barn building, uh you name it, uh post frame, uh timber frame, shed. We pretty much do it all from Lancaster County, but uh uh also uh co-own and a partner in Constorga Buildings, uh CB Structures, which uh is uh in seven states, uh Mid-Atlantic and Northeast. So uh yeah, love, love post frame, love our membership, and uh just really enjoy uh what I get to do uh serving uh our team and serving uh all our members.

Morgan Arwood:

Cool.

Jared:

Awesome, awesome. Morgan, how about you?

Morgan Arwood:

Yep, uh I'm Morgan Arwood, I am the membership director for the National Frame Building Association. My focus is helping uh members make the best, um make the most out of out of their membership. Um, so I help uh make sure that they have access to their benefits or to answer any questions, that sort of thing. Uh we came on as management with the National Frame Building Association back in 2019, maybe 2018. Um, and it has been an incredible learning experience. Uh our leadership is second to none. They are fantastic people, uh wonderful to work with, and this is one of the greatest industries with some of the greatest people in the world.

Jared:

I would wholeheartedly agree with that. I can tell you what Eric and I have found in the post-frame world is genuineness. I think if I was going to give one word, it's genuine. The people that I have met, the companies that I've worked with, um, all the folks that just across the board could not be more genuine, could not be more open and warm, you know, warm-hearted. And I can tell you from somebody coming from the steel building space, it's like graduating to a completely different world. So if you are currently selling metal buildings or wood sheds and you are looking for the next vertical for your business, post frames a really good place to be. I can tell you, there's a lot of good people, specifically here at the NFBA, that can help you take the next step in your business journey. And I would encourage you to really look at that going into this year. Um, that's a natural transition point for the two of you. Go ahead, Eric.

Eric:

I was gonna say maybe don't wait for maybe don't wait three years like we did.

Jared:

Yeah, yeah, that that would be the best advice we could give you is if you have an itch, scratch it, contact somebody. The team at the NFBA will be a an advocate for you. I can tell you that right now. That's what they're there for, and that's a natural transition point to what is the NFBA? Tell us about the organization, give us a little bit of a history, and we'll jump right into it.

Joe Shimp:

Yeah, uh I'll take that on. And so I think that uh the and the core start to the NFBA is still valid. Um, while things have changed, time has gone by, uh, what was recognized, you know, going on 60 years ago was a need to have a collective voice, uh, a collective um learning experience, uh, you know, common um interests just brought together the need to uh basically create some kind of support system and structure. Um and as time has gone by, the NFBA has uh broadened that approach, you know, as things like codes and um you know requirements, uh financing, you name it, uh as we put our product, we'll call it post frame out into the market, uh, there's so many different challenges or opportunities uh at the same time. So when business leaders, not just business leaders, but even crew guys and everyone involved in the post frame industry realize there were needs, uh, there's one core group, you know, the National Frame Building Association, who's working to take basically all of that on. I mean, some days it feels like we are literally doing all of it at one time. Um, and you know, how else do you achieve that? You as a business owner, um, how do you address insurance, legal, building, every part of this uh from a business viewpoint? And then you get in the field, you know, uh big challenges that we all have right now, uh you know, finding the right staff, changing uh through different, you know, a millennial versus a baby boomer and retirement and finding new hire. So you know, you look at what well, how can the NFBA help with that? You know, obviously, we're not looking to go in and run all these companies, but we're saying what resources can we continue to provide to help our members. So uh, you know, Morgan is uh in some instances boots on the ground. A lot of people meet her, a lot of people talk to her, and other board members, other staff. We go, you know, and we hear at our different events, expos, uh meetings, and the NFBA is here to listen, you know, and that that was one of my biggest um goals for who the NFBA is, was and remains is someone who listens to membership. So, Morgan would love to share some things as well.

Morgan Arwood:

Yeah. Um our sole purpose is to help builders run their company. Um, so it's from day-to-day all the way to succession planning. Um there's so many aspects of running a company that you know, just because you're fantastic at putting up a building doesn't necessarily translate to being a you know, knowing everything about your business and how to run it. Um, so we try to fill that gap uh for company owners. Um and there's it's amazing when you know a member calls me with some kind of problem, and I can confidently say I can help you with that. You know, it's hugely rewarding for sure.

Jared:

I can tell you what I like about NFBA is it's an advocacy program for business owners, small and large, right? So, trade organizations are usually put together to have the backing of an industry, not just from a collective standpoint of like something like the trade show where everybody can get together and meet and greet and things like that. But also, the NFBA is doing work behind the scenes to curate better deals. They're working behind the scenes to go after things like legal. Small businesses don't know how to do legal the right way. I can tell you, we're small business owners, we struggle with it, it's expensive. I'm sure that you guys, as a matter of fact, I think one of the things that you have is a really good benefit for legal, and I'll let you stress on that. But I can tell you from a from an overarching perspective of somebody who isn't an FBA member, has read through the membership packet in detail, uh, it's a good value, it's a great value. It it's practically priceless, in my opinion. It needs to be the first thing you write off as a post-frame manufacturer builder is a membership with an FBA. It just it's gonna be that that security blanket to help you along the way. And just like you said, the most exciting part about your job. I love that you said that. You just told me the most exciting part about your job is when you can help a member. Your most exciting part about your job isn't signing that member up, no, it's helping the member once they're signed up. Yep, and that says a lot about your character as a person, which Eric and I met you. You couldn't have been you couldn't have been better to us. We had a great time, it was a great meeting. Um, and I can tell you, if that's the way you look at your clients, the person that is in charge is the the face of the organization in the moment, that was you for us, and that's why we're having these conversations now. And if you're the face that greets them with a with a really firm handshake and all the tools necessary, what an advocate you are for NFBA. So, Joe, great work in hiring Morgan and her team. Because I can tell you, I can tell you, you're not going to get better service, in my opinion, right now. So tell me more about tell me more about the specific benefits, specifically the legal one. You stressed on that one. It's a big enough deal that you actually told me about it when we met in person.

Morgan Arwood:

Yeah, if members utilized only the uh legal services plan, it would by far comp uh cover the cost of membership. So uh our legal counsel for National Frame Building Association is Gary Auman of Auman, Mahan and Furry, which is actually right here in Dayton. Um, and he specializes in OSHA uh defense. Um, but he uh as partner of the law firm has an entire you know law firm of attorneys that handle contracts or warranties or you know any aspect of running your business they can help you with. And so all NFBA members enjoy one half hour at no cost with Gary Auman or the appropriate person at his at his law firm. So, I mean, I think I think hourly it's like three or four hundred dollars an hour. So, if you took advantage of just that, you've paid for your membership.

Jared:

We know from a we know from a less than less than friendly situation how expensive lawyers can be. We've been there. I'm sure there's plenty of listeners who have been on the opposite end of attorney letters or summons or whatever that is. This is again a call to action for you if you're listening to me right now and you're in the post-frame space or wannabe, the NFBA is the place to call. Um why? You know, I want you know, you they hear it on my heart, right? The listeners are gonna listen to what I say most of the time, but they want to hear it from you. Why is the NFBA the right choice for someone that is getting into the industry, might already be in the industry? Tell me why.

Joe Shimp:

I would one thing that um you know, to reiterate what Morgan said, but I get so excited when we are, for example, at Expo and I'll do uh a shift, we'll call it in the booth, which is not really a shift. I get so excited when a new engineer is at the show, and really, you know, uh it could be a new engineer, it could be a new business owner. And I I just think of the collective experience of the group and size. You know, I come from uh a larger company and a strong business background and all these things, and I learn as much from the small builder as I do from the other large builders, and I think that's like when you have a common goal and you can work together, you even as big as some of our company members are, we can't individually solve industry problems individually, if that makes sense. So when I'm at the show or when I'm on a call, or Morgan's talking about a new member and things they bring up, I'm I can't help but like for the why, you know, we can list and list and list all the member benefits, but it's hard to even in uh express like how valuable or how beneficial it is to uh get in a group that shares common interests and goals, you know. And yeah, uh, I call it coaching, encouragement mentorship. I will say one thing, you know, I've been in the construction industry at large for one year, and uh some are extremely competitive versus others that I don't know, they won't help you at all. So, when you go to a NFBA industry event and every everyone's sort of working together, it's the why for me is quick and easy. Like these people actually want you to succeed. I mean, there's nothing better than for me. I'm the you know, same mindset. Like, listen, we could even be competitors, but I want you to put a better product out there for the sake of our industry, you know. Yeah. Um, so it's easy, you know. It's easy in my mind, it should be easy, and the membership cost, like if you just think illegal, but everything you add up, you could it's not even it's a penny, you know, in the cost of from one or two interaction.

Eric:

Yeah, I was gonna say something. Um, so I feel cozy with the NFBA because we're in we sell sheds, metal buildings, and pole barns. Um, and one thing that I wanted to say about um kind of like my I went to the NFBA show um in May or like the May show earlier in Knoxville with no knowledge.

Jared:

Um Jared, can you mute?

Eric:

Yeah, okay, it's just loud. Um and so I um when I went there, I went there really with just a little bit of the builder experience. I found somebody else that had a like a 3D designer and was talking about it. And we have a guy that's we have a team now with a couple squads that could put up the buildings. We knew that going into it. So, like my main mission at the trade show was basically to go to every booth, get as much knowledge as I possibly could, like at the show, just from a I want to do this, but I'm not even sure. You know, so what you're talking about, Joe, is like literally what I did. I just like winged it. I knew Graber was there, so I was gonna end up in the booth and feel good because Tim is he's not he's gonna talk with you, so he's gonna make you feel good about yourself. And um, and I and I and he asked me and my wife to go out to dinner, and we went out to dinner and we sat next to Shamrock in Pittsburgh, and they have a uh poll barn company. I'm not sure if they're members. If you're if you're listening, you should join. I sat next to him and literally he let me ask him every question that from like you know, if you were gonna go start your own poll barn company, you have a you know, you got probably 20 questions to ask, you know, and I was able to sit there and ask, as a not even a I mean, uh, we're in Dayton, he's in Pittsburgh. It's probably not a big overlap if there is any overlap, but man, he just was like the most willing guy. And I know that doesn't have anything to do with, you know, maybe it's just functionality, but like NFBA set the tone for that because I think like what you're saying, I experienced at a uh at a restaurant with Tim and a couple other guys. There's a roofer there. Um there's another person there, I can't remember. Um Drip Stop or something, I think it was Drip Stop was there or something. And um, and and I remember calling Jared and I was like, that is gonna be it, and we need to go see NFBA. I said that will be a good organization. I said this like six months ago, it will be a good because the sheds don't have it. And and the steel buildings definitely don't have it. The steel building industry is like I don't even know. There is no organization.

Jared:

But well, there's an aura of cooperation. The NFBA promotes an aura of cooperation and agreement between all of its members. And I think that when you have a governing body, and I use that term loosely because the NFBA is not looking to rewrite your playbook. They're not looking to tell you how to run your business. But what they are doing is they're bringing everyone together in one accord and they're offering services. I want to run down these real quick because they're on the website. Offerings for 401k, technology purchasing program, business software, crowdfunding services, discounted pricing for all the expos, and you get a free subscription to the trade magazine. Um, lots of different educational benefits, growth benefits, uh again, advocacy benefits. Um, you know, just the idea that if you're a small business and you're selling post-frame buildings and installing them, having the logo of the NFBA, the National Frame Building Association as a backing for your business is, you know, to me, it looks like a better business bureau logo, right? Everybody in our industry wants to have a BBB next to their name. Well, uh the way that I look at it is BBB NFBA. You know, to me, I think you should be really looking for that accreditation from the group that is advocating on behalf of the industry itself. So maybe it's a trade advocacy group versus a trade control group. I think that's probably how you'd recommend us talking about it, right?

Morgan Arwood:

Yeah, yeah. And Eric, I think you kind of nailed it on the head there. You know, we've got um discounts on many items, um educational training, technical guidance, networking, um, and I think networking is probably the number one uh membership benefit. Uh, you know, being able uh builders being able to talk to non-competitors uh candidly about the issues that they're facing are is invaluable. So I think you are absolutely right.

Joe Shimp:

And the key, the key for us as a NFBA, as an association is to foster that. Instead of us wanting you mentioned control, like I have no interest in control industry. I mean I mean, okay, we want a little bit of uh a basis for quality and uh you know expectations, and we would want our NFBA BA members to practice good business, you know, and treat people with respect. But that I like to use the word foster that and accomplish that, you know, bring together groups, uh, you know, educational sessions, webinars, things that again, individually you can do to a point, but then you gotta, you know, you can collect and just put those contacts together. And the networking is what's amazing because as a as an association, um, we can bring you know marketing people, engineers, uh, builders, suppliers from every level, every background across the country into one place, you know, into one association, and get, I'll use the word range that's used a lot in business, you know, but get range, not just in individuals, but in group talk and things. Um, so I that that is exactly, you know, right. Like there is very specific things that the NFBA is doing and focusing on, you know, and sometimes I my biggest fear is that we're not telling people enough, but they can see the ramifications of it. But we are, you know, we are dealing with code issues. We do have a TNR committee working with technical issues, and the reality of it is they face all of us. So if we don't do it, who is going to tackle that? You know, who can afford to bring a group together um of all those experts who have common interests and do it? So, the NFBA uh network, you know, not only I would agree with the words, it's been the same since I've been in the group, hasn't changed, personable. People want each other to do well, people are encouraging, you know, there's probably healthy competition in certain things, but that shows up in our products. So, like, who wants as an association group, but also as a as a member of this industry, I'm proud of the competitive builder that makes you know a nicer building of the year for me than me, uh, because it's inspiring, right? Like we can choose to be jealous of that, or we can say, you know, I'm pretty honored to be in the same NFBA group as that guy. Like, hey, I'm gonna promote it too. I'm not you know, I'm not against it, it's awesome. Uh, and so, like you said, some of those other trade groups and some of those other background, like, are they working together to pull the industry at ahead, you know, and to grow, or are we fighting, you know, whatever. So the NFBA, I think our job as an association and our goal is to listen to our members, learn from our members, support their needs, and grow the industry, and also take uh a message to the public that we're here, like you said, it it is an accreditation in a sense, it is a yes, it is a commitment to growth, it is a commitment that I'm gonna join this, I'm going to learn more about business, I'm going to learn more about my product, I'm going to learn how to make it better. I'm not going to do everything they tell me, you know, but hey, I'm going to take a look at safety. You know, our industry struggles a lot. So does the steel industry, so does with you know, with safety. And um it's not as easy, you know. I and I will say that, you know, I'll go on the record to say it's a challenge in any construction business to equal safety, profits, everything. And people don't want to address that. But as an as an industry association, we're able to say, we're working hard on these best practices. Like, let us help take some of that burden and cost and promote safety, you know, and then this is a free, basically, a free tool for you to use. Um, it's just those kind of things collectively were so much stronger.

Jared:

Advocates of authority, right? Authority advocates, you know. To me, if the NFBA contacts a governing body and you know, through their legal counsel or something like that, just like you said, individual small business owner does not have the authority, it's not been granted to them. But if you become part of the NFBA and you're on the team with them, think about it. Would you rather be on the team with the right crew of people, or would you rather be off the team and alone? And that's the way that I look at something like this is that it grants me a certain level of authority just being part of the organization and association period. And then from there, I am learning, I am getting myself better, I'm tuning myself up. January 5, 2026, when you hear this, you are gonna be motivated for the best 2026 of your life. Eric and I have been talking about all last year. Do what you did right in 2025 and forget what you did wrong, just leave it behind. Right now, New Year's resolution for you needs to be what are you gonna do tomorrow to have a better year than you did the year before? And some of you might have had a really good year in 2025, and that's fine too. Do it again. What were the best practices, the processes, the things that you learned and implemented? What did you do to make 2025 such a good year? Because not everybody had a good 2025. 2025 was pretty crappy for some people, you know. Maybe you had a better 2024. What I can tell you is if you're considering a run in post-frame in the in the pole barn world, NFBA'd be my first call. That that that is without a fact because they can tie you to the things that you need to know to get started off on the best leg possible. Is that fair? I mean, I think that that kind of puts a button on it, right? A little bit.

Morgan Arwood:

I would say so.

Jared:

Okay, okay. One thing I want to touch on, because we're getting to be a little bit long-winded here, but I want to touch on this. You know, the NFBA does a pretty big service with their foundation. You guys have a scholarship foundation that it seems very important to the NFBA, it's featured all over the website. Um, this is a scholarship program that benefits. Um walk me through it, Morgan, if you can.

Morgan Arwood:

Yeah, so the NFBA foundation is a 501c3 uh labeled uh charity organization, and the focus of uh the foundation is to support industry education, research, and scholarships. Uh talk to any builder in the in the country, and they are, you know, one of their top problems is workforce. And so we are trying to take that head on. Um, so it's actually a newer arm of NFBA. So I Joe, you'll have to remind me, was it 2021 or 2022 when it started?

Joe Shimp:

I think yeah, I was I was gonna add it was started by past uh board members who um essentially um said you know what as a board we're doing a lot of things, you know, as an association, what are some things we're not doing, or what are some options for to do more? And um by creating that, it allowed us to um focus on education and certain research and things, and also gain different uh forms of funding uh for it. So it is it is relatively new, um, but it was kind of born out of how else can we grow um future post-trained professionals, you know, at any point.

Jared:

Yeah, what I can add to that is this like and you guys, we did a pre-call, so I sometimes I pull the curtain back a little bit. We do a pre-call, we talk about all the things, the why, the what, the how behind NFBA. What I always ask organizations across the board, what are you doing out in your community? Even if it's new, you're doing it. There's a lot of organizations and associations out there that don't even take the time to ask that question. And again, I think it piggybacks off more what Morgan said at the beginning of the episode. The funnest part, the most fulfilling part of her job is taking care of the clients once they're clients. You guys are not out scouring the world, you guys are not out spamming people. Hey, join the NFBA, join the NFBA. I think that that's a very fair thing about your association, too, is that it almost calls out to you. It called out to the Steel Kings. You know, we didn't, you know, we weren't bombasted with anything. You guys didn't come knocking on our door, we knocked on yours. And we knocked on it in a way that it was a mutual thing for both parties, but at the same time, the Steel Kings wanted to be part of what y'all are having going on over at the NFBA because we were excited. We were excited for what it could do for our business, and we wanted to share that with our friends and listeners. That's why this is happening, right? I mean, that you know, Eric, I mean, you jump in there, bro. I mean, uh, we were excited about it legitimately, and we don't get excited about too much when it comes to stuff like this.

Eric:

Yeah, I it just goes back to tent we talked about doing pool barns a couple years ago, and finally we lost a deal, just so the viewers know, the we lost a deal to a steel building concrete job where the footing requirement was like obnoxiously huge. And the and uh our guy, our our one of our builders said, if you would have if you would have bought a pool barn and we had had the deal, and I was like, Well, I guess we should start selling pool barns, you know. And that was like literally the moment where I'm like, all right, let's call Tim. Tim came up and uh and then he said, We've got the trade show coming, we'll take you to dinner. And uh, and so I just feel like the open doors, if you have to, if you have to wrestle with it, it's sometimes not good to go through. But this has been an open door that's just been an absolute blessing because uh it's just you just have to go through it. And so not only are we excited to get to know the sponsors of the trade show coming up, get to know you guys more. We are literally in Dayton, so we can grab lunch anytime or go over there. Um, I'm excited to be part of the webinar team. I've got my curriculum ready for um kind of social media 101 and um and really excited to um because if they're like the playing community, uh you know they need a little help and guidance with that type of deal. So um I'm gonna come back to go.

Jared:

I can tell you, I'm glad you brought that up because the last thing I wanted to bring up when you are a member of the NFBA, there is a lot of curriculum, there is a lot of webinars, they have the uh NFBA curriculum as a as a series, and you can actually graduate from that program. I would encourage you to visit NFBA.org and check out underneath the education tab all the things. I think just the benefit of being able to learn more, apply your trade a little bit better, that might be just enough for the membership. And we haven't even really scratched the surface of everything. We've been talking and having a good time. The one thing I want to say, we've been so excited about NFBA, and we're so thankful that Joe and Morgan gave us part of their afternoon on a Friday, and we're celebrating this new year, but I want to do a little bit of a call to action for all of our listeners. Get excited about what's coming up in 2026. Y'all have heard us talking about it. We've been talking about it for the last couple of months, anyways, but now we can kind of formally announce we are going to do a series with the NFBA where we talk about pole barns, we get excited about post-frame, we get excited about all the things in this industry, all the blessings that can happen when you work together. Um, we are excited for the trade show. I've got the card right here. Um, we'll feature the advertising for that, but it is February the 25th through the 27th in Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City is beautiful. Okay, it is a beautiful city. There is a lot of fun and exciting things to do. Um, there are plenty of opportunities for our plane friends as well. There's lots of things going on that are family friendly and available for you while you're there. But what I want to say is over the next six weeks or so, we're gonna be featuring our key players in the post frame and pole barn space, talking about exactly what we're talking about today, getting excited about business, getting excited about growth for 2026, and really taking your business to the next level with a penultimate get to the NFBA trade show in Oklahoma City and hang out with us, the Steel Kings, at the NFB trade show. Is that I mean, that's exciting stuff. I see Morgan and Joe that they're smiling big. So I mean, we're excited for this, guys. One of the bottom left. Yeah, yeah. Oklahoma City's out there. I get it. I get it. It's a drive, but it'll be a worth it drive for you. I can tell you. It you know, it's not Knoxville, it's not. I'm trying to think where we've gone. Grand Rapids, it's not any of these places, it's not NPA. I'm trying to think of all the random shows that Eric and I have been invited to. I'm excited to get to OKC. I'm excited. Oklahoma City is a beautiful, beautiful city, and I'm telling you, you and your family would benefit from a trip to the NFBA show. If you're doing post-frame or pole barns already, number one, if you're not a member of the NFBA, call them nfba.org underneath membership. They'll be happy to get with you. But if you need more information and you need to know why, come meet the Steel Kings at the NFBA expo February the 25th through the 27th. We're super pumped up, and the episodes coming up will align with that and will get you excited too. What do we have on the way out, guys? Anything, Morgan, Joe, you want to add anything to the conversation? I see big smiles, which I like. I like big smiles.

Joe Shimp:

We're just excited, yeah, like stoked. Uh it's gonna be a great show, and we really want people to come out, and we're looking forward to the series leading up to it, and how you know you'll hear more stories about how the NFBA has touched uh business leaders, owners, uh, and why being a member is so important to them. So, I'm stoked for that.

Jared:

Yep, that's what we want. That's what we want. We are so excited to be part of this journey with you leading up to Oklahoma City, the NFBA trade exit. Amen. Every Monday. We are yeah, we are so excited because we're one of those stories. On the way out, the Steel Kings came on this journey, and we want you to come with us. We want you to be the next person that joins the NFBA, comes to Oklahoma City, and has a celebration like we did, because 2025 was a big year for the Steel Kings. Dayton Barns did really well, Five Rivers Pole Barns did really well. Our buddies over at Defyned SEO and Cal and J Money all had great years. And I can tell you, what excites me about it is that we get to meet fun and exciting and open people like Joe and Morgan along the way and people at the NFBA, and we couldn't be more blessed and excited about what's to come. So we are finishing up this episode of the Steel Kings podcast. Eric, you got anything for me, brother, on the way out, man.

Eric:

If you live in America and you've never been to the National Cowboy Museum, I don't know, but I think that's pretty much on my to-do list.

Jared:

National Cowboy Museum. How do you not want to go there and so I want some of our plain community friends to go to the National Cowboy Museum with Eric, and we will take some fun pictures and we will get them on the telephone.

Eric:

Heather's got some pink cowgirl boots. She's gonna wear them.

Jared:

Yeah, no doubt. Okay, pink cowgirl boots. All right. So you heard it here. You heard it here. The Steel Kings will be in Oklahoma City February the 25th to the 27th at the NFBA at the Trade Expo. Get out in your communities and do something good for somebody else. I promise you, I promised you, I promised you, it'll make you feel better. 2026 is going to be your year to win. Join us at NFBA, and we will see you at you next week with another episode of The Steel Kings Podcast. I'm Jared, so there's my best friend Eric. Morgan and Joe, we're out of here for this week. We'll talk to you guys soon. Have a great day, guys.

Jared:

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