Talking Pools Podcast
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Talking Pools Podcast is the pool industry’s “pull up a chair” show—part shop talk, part field manual, part therapy session—built for people who actually live on pool decks: commercial operators, service techs, builders, facility managers, and anyone responsible for water that can’t afford to go sideways. The network was created to level up the pool industry with real-world conversations on water chemistry, filtration, troubleshooting, construction, safety, and the business side of keeping pools open and budgets intact.
Here’s the hook: it’s not theory-first. It’s experience-first—a roster of seasoned pros (with 250+ years of combined “been there, fixed that” wisdom) turning complicated problems into practical moves you can use the same day. And it’s not one voice, one vibe, one corner of the industry: it’s a network of shows designed to reflect how diverse this work really is—different regions, different specialties, different personalities.
Also worth saying out loud: women aren’t “special guests” here—they’re on the mic as hosts, from the beginning, with an intentionally balanced roster. That matters, because the best ideas in this industry don’t come from one lane—they come from the whole road.
If you want a podcast that can make you laugh and make you better at what you do—without pretending the job is easier than it is—Talking Pools is the one you queue up before the first stop, and keep on when the day starts getting weird.
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1099 vs W-2, Water Balance, and Pool Industry Realities
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Insurance Interlude: 1099 vs W-2, Water Balance, and Pool Industry Realities
In this episode of Thursdays with Wayne & Steve, the show opens with a quick look at the winter weather hitting the Northeast before diving into two important conversations affecting pool professionals: employee classification in the service industry and the importance of water balance and documentation in pool care.
Joining Steve for the Insurance Interlude is Pat Grignon from the California Pool Association, where they explore the ongoing debate between 1099 independent contractors and W-2 employees in the pool service industry.
1099 vs W-2: What Pool Companies Need to Know
Steve and Pat discuss the legal and operational differences between hiring technicians as independent contractors (1099) versus employees (W-2). While some companies successfully operate with contractors who maintain their own businesses, problems arise when contractors function essentially as employees.
The conversation highlights a real-world case where a company classified dozens of workers as independent contractors, even though they only worked for that company. The result was a state investigation and a $750,000 fine, demonstrating how seriously regulators view employee misclassification.
Pat explains that legitimate 1099 relationships typically require:
- Workers operating their own independent business
- Maintaining their own insurance
- Working for multiple clients
- Using their own equipment
Later in the episode, Wayne shares a call from a listener in Port Orange, Florida dealing with corrosion around brass light fittings in two stainless steel pools.
After discussing the issue, it becomes clear that the root cause was not high total dissolved solids (TDS), but severely unbalanced water chemistry.
The technician had been lowering the pH to 6.8, which is far below recommended swimming pool levels. Combined with low alkalinity readings around 40–50 ppm, the water had become extremely corrosive.
Wayne walks through the fundamentals of restoring proper balance:
- Maintain pH between 7.4–7.6
- Keep alkalinity between 80–120 ppm
- Maintain calcium hardness above 150 ppm
- Monitor TDS relative to source water
The example serves as a reminder that water balance is critical, especially when dealing with metal components or unusual pool construction materials.
Why Documentation Protects Service Companies
The episode closes with a discussion about the importance of record keeping when servicing pools, particularly after renovations or plaster work.
If problems arise after a pool build or resurfacing, contractors may ask for detailed chemistry logs to determine whether improper water chemistry caused the issue.
Maintaining records from systems like:
- Skimmer
- Pool Brain
- PayThePoolMan
can provide service companies with data-backed proof that proper chemistry was maintained.
Without documentation, pool companies may struggle to defend themselves when blame is assigned for plaster defects or equipment failures.
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