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EPISODE 61 - Do You Believe In Werewolves

February 13, 2024 Kate & Sarah Season 2 Episode 61
EPISODE 61 - Do You Believe In Werewolves
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EPISODE 61 - Do You Believe In Werewolves
Feb 13, 2024 Season 2 Episode 61
Kate & Sarah

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As the winter chill sets in, we're brewing up more than just hot chocolate in our latest podcast episode—grab your favorite mug and join the conversation where we laugh about how quickly the heavenly whipped cream and playful marshmallows just vanish from sight. It's not all about the creamy beverages though; we tackle some tongue-twisting fun and even throw a new challenge into the mix. Are you up for the twist? Find out if you can handle the bear and the rug as they tangle our tongues in this delightful segment.

Then, the atmosphere shifts as we move from lighthearted laughs to the spine-tingling accounts of werewolves and dogmen. Picture this: Oklahoma, 1971, Donald Child faces a creature so otherworldly it sends him into cardiac arrest. His story isn't alone—Fort Steal's military personnel have their own tales that walk the line between skepticism and supernatural. Our conversation weaves through the eerie forests of fear and fascination, examining personal anecdotes that might just have you glancing over your shoulder on your next night walk.

To cap off this thrilling episode, we share a young boy's nightmarish encounter that begs the question, what truly lurks beyond the veil of the known? Freddy's tale is a harrowing reminder of the power our minds have to believe or dismiss the extraordinary. No matter where you stand on the spectrum of belief, this episode promises to leave an imprint on your thoughts long after the final credits roll. So, stoke the fire, settle in, and prepare for an unforgettable journey into the world of the unexplained.

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As the winter chill sets in, we're brewing up more than just hot chocolate in our latest podcast episode—grab your favorite mug and join the conversation where we laugh about how quickly the heavenly whipped cream and playful marshmallows just vanish from sight. It's not all about the creamy beverages though; we tackle some tongue-twisting fun and even throw a new challenge into the mix. Are you up for the twist? Find out if you can handle the bear and the rug as they tangle our tongues in this delightful segment.

Then, the atmosphere shifts as we move from lighthearted laughs to the spine-tingling accounts of werewolves and dogmen. Picture this: Oklahoma, 1971, Donald Child faces a creature so otherworldly it sends him into cardiac arrest. His story isn't alone—Fort Steal's military personnel have their own tales that walk the line between skepticism and supernatural. Our conversation weaves through the eerie forests of fear and fascination, examining personal anecdotes that might just have you glancing over your shoulder on your next night walk.

To cap off this thrilling episode, we share a young boy's nightmarish encounter that begs the question, what truly lurks beyond the veil of the known? Freddy's tale is a harrowing reminder of the power our minds have to believe or dismiss the extraordinary. No matter where you stand on the spectrum of belief, this episode promises to leave an imprint on your thoughts long after the final credits roll. So, stoke the fire, settle in, and prepare for an unforgettable journey into the world of the unexplained.

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Speaker 1:

Well, I am currently drinking a hot chocolate.

Speaker 2:

Oh, is it that time of year already?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, it's just so cold. I've only just taken my dressing gown off because I can't really wear that for this and it's just so miserable. Now it's so dark and wet and rainy and I was writing my horary story and I thought you know what it goes well with horror stories.

Speaker 2:

A hot chocolate bath weather.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a hot chocolate. So I've made myself a really, really nice hot chocolate. Actually it's proper nice, complete with whipped cream and some chocolatey sprinkles, nice, but I've devoured the cream already, so it's just.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that kind of comes off in one big lump, doesn't it? Especially if you've got marshmallows. I always end up going, oh, this is lovely, the whole lump of marshmallow goes into my mouth and I'm like, oh, swallow it. And then I'm left with just hot chocolate with no marshmallow or cream or anything, and I'm like, oh, that's so funny.

Speaker 1:

It's true, though, isn't it. That's why it's so funny.

Speaker 2:

That's exactly what happens, exactly what happens. And then you've got all this is lovely, and you kind of get a little, do a little. You blow a little cave into it. Like when you blow it, a little cave forms in the edge of it. Oh, I can get under the lid of marshmallow to pull the hot chocolate down a bit, but it kind of makes a separation. So you've got an iceberg of red hot marshmallow and cream, yeah, and you kind of go to suck it a little bit and the whole thing just in your mouth.

Speaker 1:

So funny. That's exactly what happens. I know what you mean, because I don't do that anymore. I put so much cream on it. I don't like marshmallows, I put so much cream on that. I actually always have a spoon and I spoon it. Yeah, I spoon it, but prior to that I would always fall prey to the. I'll just suck it a little bit.

Speaker 2:

I'll just have a little bit, because it's going to be really hot. I gotta talk about it.

Speaker 1:

I can get by, but I can't. And itperson on that glass is funny. It reminds me of that Tom and Jerry. He poked it up for a shutter milk through straw. Big lump of mouth. Big lump of mouth, blam God. Oh, talking to blams, I haven't got one ready.

Speaker 2:

You know, I kind of love that our family, our perplexed family, are really embracing tongue twisters. Yeah, I love that, yep. And there's people like, oh my God, I tried this and it was just so hard I just couldn't do it and that nothing. Oh, I love that they're. They're all getting involved with us and we're all trying these tongue twisters.

Speaker 1:

Well, I can tell you one person that doesn't like the tongue twisters Josie Josie, because I was so, so proud of myself for the last week, this one, the not last, one Chicken in the kitchen. Yeah, I saw a kitten eating chicken in the kitchen that I was just at random wrapping it to her. It wasn't a chicken in the kitchen, she was like shut up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Well, that's what I was going to say. I mean, I've received many messages and phone calls from Josie because of this. Mainly they consisted of things like how do I make it stop, yeah. But I think where you went wrong is that you turned it into a wrap and then you were wrapping it in her face. In her face, yes, see, we see, we got this. I don't think I don't think she appreciated it, but, um, I did. Well, on that note, random blams go.

Speaker 1:

My random blam is I think about today's episode, because you're doing the episode. I don't really know what it's about, so I think it's it's to do with today's episode. It's a hairy episode, yes, so, uh, the word werewolf, um, actually means man wolf, which I didn't know when means man in the old English dictionary. So it means man wolf and the most famous story of a werewolf so I mean it, dates werewolf state back to like, uh, like the ancient Greeks and all sorts of Greece and Roman stuff, um, but the most famous case of a werewolf is actually Professor Lupin.

Speaker 2:

Shut up.

Speaker 1:

No, shut up, yeah it is Obviously, it is Cause you know Harry Potter.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, I mean, that's true. I have seen the actual werewolf Lupin, the actual one that was in the film. Yeah, uh, harry Potter world, maybe, or maybe. I just maybe just no Lupin. Yeah, do you know what I'm really gutted Cause? What I should have done was I should have saved my random lamb tongue twister fuzzy, was he for this one. For this one.

Speaker 1:

You've made an error there.

Speaker 2:

I have yeah.

Speaker 1:

Right, what's your?

Speaker 2:

random blam. My random blam is and I'm gutted that I didn't do fuzzy was he on this one, cause that would have been an ideal one. I have got a big black bear sat on a big black rug. A big black bear sat on a big black rug. A big black bear sat on a big black rug. A big black bear sat on a big black rug. Big black bear sat on a big black rug.

Speaker 1:

This sounds like one that I can wrap into Josie's face. Here goes, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 2:

Sorry, sorry, josie Ready, yeah, so you can stick out a big black rug.

Speaker 1:

All right, a big black bear sat on a big black rug. A big black bear sat on a big black rug. A big black bear sat on a big black rug. You know, what's really good about that Is that I actually typed in Rob, in Rob.

Speaker 2:

Big black bear sat on a big black Rob.

Speaker 1:

Well, that was fun, smashed that one yeah smashed.

Speaker 2:

Alright well, random blams done, let's crack on then. Eh yeah, alright. Well, here it comes. Episode 61. Yep, nice Morning.

Speaker 1:

Morning, morning, morning Morning. I'm looking forward to today's episode. Well, good, yeah it's. We haven't done one like this. Well, you haven't done one like this in a while. I tend to steer clear of these sort of ones because of my completely closed-mindedness.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I like a hairy story. I was going to do an episode all about the history of werewolves and where they originated and everything else, but then I started getting sucked into like individual stories and there seems to be a bit of a crossover or, I don't know, mix up or mash up, whatever it is, between something called the dog man or dogmen and like werewolf, but dogmen seem to be what we know as like werewolves, so they are bipedal beings with sparse hair, muscular bodies, hairy, always seem to have, like the sort of dog, yellow eyes.

Speaker 2:

And not that my dog's got yellow eyes, but you know, yeah, that's not really a dog thing, is it, it's not really. It's more of a werewolf thing, I guess. But no, when we did the cabin.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he had yellow eyes didn't they, he did indeed.

Speaker 2:

So maybe he was a dog man, maybe werewolf, maybe not, who knows. But the first story that really got me into this was in 1971, in a town called Lawton in Oklahoma, and it was a man called Donald Child and he saw something that would forever change his life. At the time of this, donald was in his mid 30s. He was sitting at home looking out of his front window, so he had a sort of a chair and table that were angled out of a big picture window at the front of his house. So he was sitting there looking out onto the town and he saw what he described as a monstrous creature and it was bent over the edge of a small fish pond and Donald said that it may have been drinking or possibly looking for fish in there, but it had its sort of snout and face in the water. It did that for a bit and then either finished drinking or lost interest and it stood up. And when it stood up Donald was absolutely petrified because as it stood up it actually stood up onto two legs and it was like eight foot tall when it stood up and it didn't have the physique of a bear. It was more muscular and its arms were longer, its legs were longer than a bear, it was thinner than a bear and it was sort of hunched over and it stood up and it turned to him and looked straight at him and it actually scared Donald so much that he actually went into a cardiac arrest. Oh God, scared to death. Yeah, exactly, yeah, quite literally.

Speaker 2:

Donald was whisked off to the hospital where he spent several days and the hospital staff said for the first few days that he was in there, he was in a constant state of terror. He gave a full description of the beast that he saw and he described it as a werewolf. The media went into an absolute frenzy with this information and a local police officer named Clancy Williams interviewed Donald and when Donald was somewhat with it again, he said that it was very tall. When it stood up around seven or eight foot tall, it was hairy all over its body and its face and he said that what scared him the most, strangely enough, was that it seemed to be wearing trousers or, he said, pants, and he said but the trousers or pants were too small for it, they were very tight, they were ripped, they were dirty, and when he reported this and the media got hold of it. Other people started to come forward too and they had previously feared that they'd either gone crazy, that they'd seen something like this you know that they just wouldn't be believed. So once everyone else had heard that Donald had come forward, made this statement, been in cardiac arrest, they started to come forward with their stories and it was on that exact night, that same night, that Donald had seen it. They described this beast as running around the town, sometimes on four legs and then changing and standing up on its rear legs and standing between six and eight foot tall.

Speaker 2:

Then it transpired that just half an hour after Donald's encounter, an officer named Harry Azell had responded to another resident of the town who had opened his curtains around 11.15pm as he heard a noise and he saw what he described as a large wolf-like creature. Then, as it moved around, he thought it actually looked more like an ape as he was watching and it kind of stood up and it was moving around. He thought this must be some sort of practical joke. It must be someone dressed up or something, because it couldn't be any animal that he knew. He knew it wasn't a wolf, he knew it wasn't an ape, although it was kind of a little bit wolf-like and a little bit ape-like and he just thought it was so strange looking, this thing, that it had to be some sort of practical joke. So he didn't really think much of it and thought someone's winding me up.

Speaker 2:

Then it was at that moment that the beast turned and looked straight at him and made full eye contact and as it did, it leapt from where it was, which he said was about 17 foot, and it maintained eye contact with him the whole time. He described his face as distorted and misfigured. He said it had hair all over its face, but you could clearly see skin and lines beneath. The military also got involved with this too. A group of soldiers from Fort Steal said that they had also seen this beast, and this was around 15 minutes later. They also saw it on the Friday and the Saturday night. There were some sightings of it on the Sunday, but it was a little bit like it could have been. Something else might have been, the beast might not have been. Then, on the Monday, around only 48 hours after the sightings, major Clarence Hill issued a warning to all of his men and he said quote be on the watch for the wolf man.

Speaker 1:

Now, as we are now just sitting watching the telly or something, and a live thing pops up and says, wolf man spied in the area, be on the lookout. And there's like a picture of him, can you imagine how weird that would be? I know well, I mean.

Speaker 2:

I did see, because I looked at lots of different sightings of, like dog men, wolf men, things like that and everything on YouTube is like the most convincing appearance or sighting or recording or whatever of the wolf man or the beast or you know whatever it is. But I just I think the recent edit is there.

Speaker 2:

I just don't get it. And I found some of them quite frustrating because I was looking through it, looking through it and I was thinking, well, this video is like 45 minutes long and I was kind of skipping through, skipping through, skipping through, and there was just nothing. And I was like you know, look, look over there in the bushes, and I was like there's nothing, I can't see anything. So I found it quite frustrating because I just I really want to be able to see these things, but then I should imagine that once you do actually see something like this, you'd think I don't want to, I don't like it. Yeah, thanks.

Speaker 4:

No.

Speaker 2:

I don't. I mean, yeah, there's one of these sightings is is properly terrifying. When I was, when I was reading about it and I was actually writing it out, it, it properly gave me the the shits. It scared the shit out of me. I was like, oh, jesus Christ, can you imagine if that?

Speaker 1:

happened. Yeah, it's one of them things that it always happens when, like you, you're not prepared, so you might be recording something or whatever else, and as soon as you stop recording something, it happens. You're like for fuck's sake.

Speaker 2:

And I'm like, well, yeah, I mean, that's the thing, because my first instinct is to go, yeah, but everyone's got a camera nowadays. Everyone's got a phone with a camera on it, Everyone's got ring doorbells, everyone's got CCTV. All of these things, if they're, if they're around, and they exist, why are they not on camera more? Yeah, and I don't get that, but you're probably, you're probably right. It is one of those things where you can sit and you can record and record and record, and record and record and then think, well, this is just pointless, turn it off and then boom.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's always always exactly right in front of you.

Speaker 2:

Going hello, yeah. So anyway, moving on, in 2001, in Kentucky, usa, a man going to visit with his family, unsure of which road to take, had pulled into a lay by on a country road surrounded by a forest. He was sitting in his car and he had the feeling that someone was watching him. I think we should do an episode about that, because that is a really perplexing phenomena, the feeling of being watched. Yeah, because you sit there and you think I could, and I do it with Claire all the time. I'll sit there and I'll like be reading a book or something and I slightly angle myself that way, and then I'll just sit and I stare at her and then At some point, like we're only talking like maybe minutes at the most, she'll turn and look at me and go what? Yeah, no, go. I'm just saying if you, if you're gonna look.

Speaker 1:

I Want to know, what is staring into your soul. I know you do with the kids all the time. They'd like creep into your bedroom. Then you'll sound asleep and you wake up and they're like staring at you.

Speaker 2:

Oh, they'd probably get punched if they did that with me. I don't think they'd get that close to me when I was asleep Not with me always being ready, yeah. So he had the feeling that someone was watching him. He looked to his left nobody looked forward looked behind, nobody looked to the right and he saw, several feet from his car window, a huge beast looking very similar to a wolf With it, he said, but it had more of a dog-like face. It was well over six foot tall, it was covered in dark black fur and it had animalistic yellow eyes. He said there was no doubt about it. It was clearly standing on two legs with its arms back. He said that the fur or hair was sparse enough for the man to see its sort of muscular physique underneath it. The two of them made eye contact and the man was so terrified that he said he went into a trance like state where he felt he couldn't move, he couldn't tear his eyes away and the beast started to move slowly closer to him.

Speaker 2:

The guy said that he felt like it was pissed off, that he like pulled into this labor and that it was that he was where he was, and he said he got the sense that it did not want in there. He broke out of the trance, slammed his car into drive and spun off up the road and he said he's never Driven down that road again. He won't go anywhere near that woodland, nothing, just down a road a little bit in the 1980s. Another guy called James Not his real name. He was a well-known figure within the community and he really didn't want this story to to get out. He did confide in a close friend who was the person that told this story. He said he was out hunting deer and he found a deer stand. Do you know what a deer stand is? I don't think we have those over here.

Speaker 1:

Let me guess. Let me guess right, a deer stand Somewhere like a, you know, when you're right in Lake and I've got like a fishing thing when you stand on the fishing thing, but it's like that, but for deer, well, no, it's not for dear, no, like a deer bar in there with some nice nettles and Like water in little bowls.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, it is exactly that. It looks like a hut. A lot of them seem to be like on stilts and they're sort of placed Periodically through the forest and things like that and then I guess hunters just go and lay in wait, lay in wait for the poor little deer. So anyway, he found a deer stand, put his shit in there, got in it and Well, right now we wait.

Speaker 2:

Some time later he heard a noise and he said he knew that it wasn't dear, because deer are normally quite careful and quiet and a little bit more sort of timid the way they move. And he said this thing Obviously wasn't concerned about making a lot of noise, because it kind of came crashing through the forest and whatever it was, suddenly emerged from the treeline and he said it was something large and hairy. Those three words, large and hairy, that's not something I want to hear, or it's certainly not something I want to say large and hairy. Anyway, it jumped out the trees Into the small clearing in front of the deer stand. He said it was about it was less than 50 foot in front of him and he said it was a huge beast, around eight foot tall, black hair, muscular. He said it had long, sharp ears and Its hands were human, like he said it. It had, you know, human like hands, but it had great, thick, long claws on the end of all it, all of its fingers. It Tilted its head and looked straight at him. He said it didn't look around or anything like that. It was super aware that that's where he was.

Speaker 2:

James pissed his knickers and when I say he pissed his knickers, I mean literally. He said he urinated all over himself. He was so terrified and he seriously thought to himself this is this, is it? This is how I'm gonna die. And he said I Don't know how else to put this, but it his words. He said it smelled me, it was sniffing the air, it looked straight into his eyes and then it turned its head. It jumped For a tree that was about 20 feet away and disappeared.

Speaker 2:

James couldn't move for at least 20 minutes, he said he didn't want to make any sound, he didn't want to leave the deer stand, but he also didn't want to stay. So he waited in silence for a bit and then he thought Right, I am gonna have to leave because there's no other way out of here. I'm gonna have to leave. I'm gonna have to walk through the forest and get to the safety of home. He silently crept through the forest Really painfully slowly. He was trying not to make any noise at all, but he said the forest was like it had never been before. He said it was mute the whole forest. He couldn't hear birds tweeting. He could hear the slight sound of leaves Dropping and rustling and he said it was really bizarre if he had to keep almost like touching his ear To to make a sound to check whether he'd gone deaf. Every stick that he stepped on seemed to echo throughout the forest. Like I said, the birds had even stopped tweeting. I don't mean on Twitter, I just mean that stopped making any noise at all.

Speaker 2:

His house was around a mile away but it was forest the whole way to his house. He couldn't even make it out to a road or anything. The whole time that he was heading home. He said he knew he was being followed. Like he said he knew he was being followed Like that feeling of you know you're being watched. He knew and he said it wasn't just by one of these creatures. He said I knew that there were many of them and they were all around me. He could hear a faint rustle or movement every now and again, but he said it was like these creatures were invisible, because he quite clearly heard a noise to his left. He would look and and there was just absolutely nothing and he couldn't understand it. He felt like he was going bonkers.

Speaker 2:

After a lot of sneaking through the woods, he found this small path that he was familiar with and started following it. He came across the small river that actually runs behind his home. So he knew he was almost there, almost there, as he began to feel the sound of the wind, as he began to feel the relief of the imminent safety. Blam, a half dead deer on the path splattered in front of him. He said it was, in his words, quote, utter carnage. He said there was blood and entrails everywhere. There was blood all up the trees. It was just literally like this deer had been ripped in half and then Smacked down on the path in front of him. And it just there. He, this deer, this a half a deer, was so big that he couldn't even step over it. He had to walk through, you know, the bushes and the trees around the path so that he could get around it. He said it felt like these things were getting closer to him and he could smell a really really strong scent of wet dog urine and rotting meat. He reached his property safely and swore that he would never go anywhere near that area again and he believed that there were multiple creatures like the one that he saw at the deer stand and he said these were the ultimate predators. They Trumped bears like wolves. He said this was on a whole different level. Nothing, nothing would have rivaled this. He said it was much bigger and much fiercer than any animal he's ever known of. He would consider Hunting again, but for the time being he wasn't. He wasn't interested and he said he may never Actually go hunting at all again because he wasn't sure that he'd be able to get over it.

Speaker 2:

The following year James told a close friend about this, which is when this came out. They also they told James that they had had similar experiences in Michigan and Wisconsin and when he had moved to Oklahoma. It didn't change it. The sightings just kept happening. And he told James that it was, exactly, sounded, exactly the same. He said it was super large, six to eight foot tall Wolf, but also human like, stood on two legs, black hair all over its body and Yellow eyes, and he said that it always was able to make eye contact enough to Scare the what's it out of him. Um, he said that he'd looked into it and he told James that there were a lot of sightings of these and they were known as dogmen, and it was a common thing in that part of the US. Dogmen have been seen all over the place and even as far south as Mexico.

Speaker 2:

A man called Jonathan said that his two uncles were truck drivers, so they used to. They both used to be in the same truck, they used to drive together, take it in turns, that kind of thing. And they were driving through a remote jungle area during the night and they were on one of the smaller roads to save time. So they were going quite slow because these were kind of unpaved roads and obviously they're in a living great big truck. And they said that they were putling down this small country road in the middle of the jungle when something big and heavy jumped into the back of their truck. They didn't stop because there were no street lights and they felt you know what if it was like a bear or something like that? But it was something substantial.

Speaker 2:

The uncle that was sitting on the passenger side suddenly saw something coming up like the side of the truck and it was running. It came out of the jungle at sort of full speed and ran along the side of the truck. The truck sped up and so did the beast. It was definitely advancing on the truck and they were both absolutely terrified. They could both see it at this point and they described it as huge and covered in black hair. It was running on all fours and it was fast. It leapt onto the side of the truck and they said it was. It gripped onto the side of the truck but it was shaking the truck. It was pulling and shaking it like it was trying to dislodge whatever it was had jumped into the back of their truck and they continued driving because I mean, what are you gonna do? Stop and go. Okay, do you need some help? What?

Speaker 2:

oh what, oh beast, do you like a hand um English? Yeah, I think that's the world's like idea of English, isn't it? You know? Could I help?

Speaker 2:

nope um what seems to be the problem, sir, morning morning, as the morning light began to show itself, they approached a service station and pulled in on the truck. There were big animal prints all over the back of the truck. There was huge gashes in both the cab of the truck and the body of the truck. The two men told the people in the services what happened and they said that. They said, well, dogmen roam this area, and I just had a vision of these people being like oh yeah, yeah, dogmen, yeah, they're everywhere, yeah, yeah watch out right in this area.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I mean that is an issue, but they said that the two men were by no means the only ones to experience this kind of attack. Jonathan reported that his uncle said that while these people were telling them all about this, he could see proper fear and terror in their eyes. They said that these attacks happened a lot. Sometimes people weren't so lucky and and that kind of thing. The two uncles said that they would never, ever, ever drive that route again, even if it saved time and money and everything they they were absolutely petrified by it. The two uncles have since passed away, but apparently they both swore that the story was a hundred percent true all the way through to the day they died. I'm gonna tell you Tony's little story.

Speaker 2:

So a man called Tony Martinez had a food truck and it was set up in a sort of old, disused car park and what he would do, from my understanding, is this truck was always situated there, so it was left there at night and then they would get there in the morning, set up, begin trading, pack away, go home, leave the truck there. Tony began to notice that there were big scratch marks and dents appearing on the outside of his food truck so he would pay and get them repaired and get them patched and he would have to have some panels in it replaced and things like that. But he said he started really pouring money like into this, into into these repairs, you know, instead of actually having the money to put into the business. He thought that possibly his two employees had been cutting corners a little bit and not disposing of food waste properly and because of that it was attracting wild animals. And he thought did you know what I can't keep? I can't keep doing this. I need to find out what's happening. These are serious dents and scratches, you know, it makes it look all like old and shitty. And so he thought, right, I'm gonna invest in some security cameras and see what's happening to the truck overnight.

Speaker 2:

So he put up these surveillance cameras and what he saw was he described as a canine like creature in appearance and he said it would run at the truck in almost like a frenzy. It would run at the truck and it would claw it. It would be biting it properly trying to get into this truck. And he said at one point on the camera you could see it sort of take a step back. It looks like it's just going away and then it runs full speed at the truck and, look, just hits straight into the truck and obviously causes a great big dent in it.

Speaker 2:

But he said he couldn't understand what the creature was. He said it definitely wasn't a bear, it was far too big to be a wolf and he just couldn't understand what it was. He got hold of his two employees and he said you need to watch this as well and see if you can work out what it is. And they felt exactly the same as him. They said we can't understand what it is. It doesn't look anything like a bear, definitely doesn't look like a dog. They watched more footage and whatever it was stood up on its hind legs and it was not far off, the same height as the food truck, he said, which must have been. You know, the food truck was probably about around 10 feet. This thing stood up. He said it must have been at least eight foot tall when it stood up. He made a report to the authorities and he claims that all of his footage that he showed the authorities was seized and you never got it back.

Speaker 2:

Who knows?

Speaker 1:

maybe that's why you can't find any footage of anything, because well thing is.

Speaker 2:

I mean, we say that, don't we? We say, oh, you know, because my incident thought was, well, that's convenient, yeah, you can't help, but feel like that, yeah, but how would you feel if you were in that position and you did have? I mean, I'm so suspicious I'd be making copies of it all over the place before I gave it to any authorities and went yes, here you go. Yes, it's the only copy. Honest, governor, I'm gonna tell you about Roger story and this is a trigger warning. This contains violence towards a dog. So this is Roger story. Roger lived in Arkansas and he claims to have had many sightings of a dog man or werewolf. Roger had four dogs and one evening one of his beloved dogs was killed by a dog man or werewolf. So Roger then began to keep his dogs inside at all times. He'd let him out that have a way, and then he'd get back in Roger. By all accounts, roger absolutely loved these dogs. So what happened was Roger had got home from work to see his beloved dog that he called brave laying in the backyard and he thought when he pulled up in his truck he sort of thought that's not right, something's not right. He wouldn't be laying down like that. So he ran over to him as he, as he approached brave, he saw that his dog was just covered in blood and really, really badly mauled. He had deep lacerations that almost went all the way through the dog's body. These lacerations were slashes of four and five together. He said it was like a human hand had done it with long claws. One of the slashes had cut an artery and when he'd got to brave, he was bleeding out. He wasn't dead, but he was close to it. He said that the dog was badly, badly beaten as well, so much so that one of his eyes was missing. Oh, roger could clearly see that his dog had many, many broken bones and he did think that the only thing that he could think of was that it had been a bear attack. But this had never happened before. He'd never seen any bears on his property or even near his property. There were no reports of bear attacks anywhere in that area. So he was kind of baffled by it. He was perplexed. Over the next few days and weeks Roger found more mutilated animals around his property and they'd been in a similar state to his dog, brave. And then Roger started hearing a screaming coming out by the river, at the bottom well, sort of at the bottom of his property, and he said these screams didn't sound like a human. He said they were definitely made by some kind of animal, but not anything that he'd ever heard before or recognised. He said that they were guttural. He was far too scared to go out and see what it was. But every day after that he always especially if he went anywhere out in his land or garden or anything like that he kept his rifle with him at all times. I mean, I hear that, roger, I've always got some kind of Weapon, handy, weaponry yeah, not for, not so much for werewolves, but, you know, zombies, right? This?

Speaker 2:

This is the last story and this is the one that really freaked me out when I was, when I was writing it, and it's about a boy called Freddie, and Freddie was 12 when this happened and he lived in a small suburban neighborhood. It wasn't out in the middle of nowhere or out in the countryside or anything like that, but little Freddie got up in the middle of the night to go and get a drink. He did that, went to the bathroom, had a tinkle which probably, in hindsight, good job he did, really went back to his bed, got snuggled up in his bed and tried to get back to sleep. Freddie's bedroom was close to their back door so you could so from his a bit like how I'm sitting at the moment from his bed, he can look out of his window and he can see if someone was coming up to the back door to come in the house. So as he was laying in bed trying to get back to sleep with his eyes closed, he could see that the security light. You know that sense his motion had come on, because he could kind of see it through his eyelids, see the light change, see the light come on.

Speaker 2:

He opened his eyes slightly just out of curiosity, and looked over to his window. As he did, he saw something that terrified him to his core, expecting to see a person stand in there. But no, it was, in his words, a hideous, mutant, dog-like face staring into the window. He said it was pressed right up against his window, looking right at him. As he looked on in horror excuse me, the creeps, whatever it was this dog-like thing started dragging its face from left to right across the glass of the window and he said it was smearing saliva. He actually said it smeared saliva and mucus, but I missed it out because I don't like that. But it was smearing its saliva slowly all across the glass and he said it maintained eye contact with him the whole time. These piercing yellow eyes, and he said it looked like mad. It looked like it was trying to scare him, it was trying to freak him out.

Speaker 1:

He succeeded.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it freaked me out as well, and I wasn't even there. He said it looked like German shepherd-like, but in his words, much uglier he had a family member I think it was like an aunt or something like that who had a German shepherd and he absolutely loved it and everyone knows German shepherds are beautiful. But he said it looked German shepherd-like, but he said it was hideous. He said it was like mutated. Somehow Freddie started screaming. I mean, he's 12. He's 12. That shit is going to damage you for the rest of your days.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean Haley refused to sleep in her bed the other day because the little bug had fallen into it.

Speaker 2:

I mean Haley comes from you know mother that had a mouse that roared at her.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

She's at a disadvantage always. So, yeah, he started screaming. He was absolutely petrified. As he was screaming, he said he couldn't take his eyes off of it. He was screaming at it and he said it smirked at him, whilst still pressing its disgusting snout against the glass. He said it smirked and he said I know that it liked the fact that I was scared. Freddie thought it's go time, so he bolted out of his bedroom, screaming all the way, and ran to his parents room. His parents were actually really good. They didn't sort of go come on, now back to bed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, get over yourself, they weren't. They were actually really good and they sort of said you know, look, we're not going to go outside because, you know, we don't know what it is. He said that he felt a lot of relief from the fact that they sounded like they believed him and Freddie's dad was a pastor and he prayed over his son and he blessed his son and he blessed their house. And Freddie said whether it helped or not, no one knows, but we never saw it again. That was the only time it happened. And he said I wasn't dreaming, it definitely happened and I definitely saw it and I don't know what or who it was, but after my dad did the blessing, we never saw it again. So there's the sightings. I want to know what are these dogmen? Do they really exist? Are they werewolves and what do you think? Can you answer those questions for me Please?

Speaker 1:

What do I think?

Speaker 2:

I can think of I'd probably guess, but it's difficult, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

Because pre-podcast I'd go Absolutely bollocks. But even like when I've been researching for paranormal ones and things that we've done where before I would have gone, that is absolute nonsense. There just seems to be such a lot of evidence supporting it and say, for instance, when you watch interviews with these people that have witnessed this, they are 100% genuine and they do genuinely believe that that is what they've seen. Whether or not that is what they've seen is a different question, but they actually believe that that's what they've seen. So it's hard for me to go oh yeah, absolutely that would have happened, or no, that definitely wouldn't have happened, it's really hard, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

The fact that there are so many different encounters, descriptions and things like that, and they're quite descriptive and it's not just like oh yeah, I saw one in the woods. They're quite a detailed account of what happened.

Speaker 2:

And the thing is, when you see things that are terrifying or you have experiences that are terrifying and things like that, there are parts of your brain that just shut down and you think, oh, I don't know what happened. When you're scared, you don't always do what people expect. It's that thing in the horror film, like in scary movie, where there's a gun, a great big, sharp knife, a baseball bat and a banana and she runs up to the table and goes, oh, and grabs the banana and runs all the way and it's like, why did you do that? You do make stupid decisions, and how many times have you seen in the movies where they'll shoot the monster or the murderer or the killer or whatever it is, and then they drop the weapon and you're like don't drop it or tie them up. But in reality I don't think you do always make the right choices and take in as much information and things as you could. I mean, if I saw something scary, I would think to myself, well, I'd grab my phone and I'd film it.

Speaker 1:

But you don't? No, no, no, no. And also the brain is. The brain is such a funny thing in that we know that your brain feels in the blanks. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So if, if there is a sentence that's got a few missing words, your brain doesn't see that unless you really concentrate on it, or there was a black and white picture that just had some, every now and then, some colored lines, and you look at that and it looks like a colored picture because your brain is filling in those blanks. And that's the same with memories or something that's happening. Especially when you're frightened. Your brain tries to make sense of the situation and then puts these, this in. So you know that that's what I was saying that I do genuinely believe these people, believe that they have witnessed these things. Yeah, whether they did witness them or not is a different, different thing.

Speaker 2:

So I think the the thing with the, with the two uncles. You know the truck drivers, yeah, when you think, you know, when I was looking into sort of like what community they were from, what sort of people were they, and things like that, they were Mexican farmers, yeah, and they were earning a living. They were doing that and they were away from their families so much because that was the way of them earning money and things like that. They didn't, they didn't need that kind of publicity. Do you know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean.

Speaker 2:

They felt quite embarrassed by it and but yet they were adamant that that is what happened, and that is what they saw. And the people were, you know, like yeah, it's the dogmen.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's the same as the tiktok UFO, where the fighter pilots saw what they saw, but they were too embarrassed, they didn't want to say what they'd seen. It kind of came out and they were kind of forced to say what they'd seen, even though they didn't want that sort of attention. Yeah, and this is interesting because you know, you know what my story is going to be for next week, so there's going to be a very similar discussion around next week's story as well. I can't wait for that.

Speaker 2:

Honestly, guys, you wait, you're all going to go. Oh, oh, my God, I know this story. I love this story. Honestly, you're absolutely love it. I can't wait. I can't wait to hear it. Do it now.

Speaker 1:

It's not ready yet.

Speaker 2:

Right? Well, I'm looking forward to that and yeah, thanks for listening to my hairy story, everyone. And yeah, let us know what you think. If you guys know anything about the dogmen, I really desperately want to know more about it. So if anyone's got any information on it, send it in. I want to know. If you're a dogman yourself, we're more than happy to have you on the show. We'll set you up with your own.

Speaker 2:

Zoom account. No, that's Mothman. Also, mothman, I know you're an avid listener. Yeah, if you want to be on the show, what? So? Do you think he's got an American accent? Mothman? Hmm, hmm, because he's in America a lot, aren't they?

Speaker 1:

Although there was possible sighting of him in Chernobyl, but no, I think he would have like a Slovakian type, do you think yeah?

Speaker 2:

But is that because you think he's like, you know, moth and bat and Dracula and yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've got a Dracula drool in my head.

Speaker 2:

Hmm, I've got a full-on English drool. Oh really, hmm, hello.

Speaker 1:

Do you go in across that bridge? Are you young man, watto?

Speaker 2:

See that bridge over there. Might want to swerve that. Yeah, I think he's like that. Yeah, and he's probably. If you look really closely, he's got a tiny little monocle Watto, watto old bean. Yeah, I think that's probably more likely.

Speaker 1:

I'm from England. I've never heard a single old man say Watto.

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pain in my back and I thought, oh lord, having a heart attack and I looked down and I looked down, I was standing on my own. Hit it, fuck's feet, fuck's feet on it.