Profit with Law: Profitable Law Firm Growth
Small Law Firms often start from the practice of law and not as a business venture. This ends up causing the growth of the firm to be much longer and more painful than it needs to be. If you started a Law Firm with the intention of increasing your impact, freeing up your time and having all the money you will ever need then the strategies we discuss will be priceless for you. Profit with Law is a show focused on the business of running a law firm as a profitable venture. Packaging and pricing your services, getting clients consistently, growing your staff in a way that feels good to you and implementing systems and technology to set yourself up for success are all discussions you will find here on the show. Moshe Amsel the host of the Profit with Law podcast is not an attorney. He has spent 20 years as an executive in the IT industry before becoming an accountant and business advisor for small businesses. As the owner of a successful accounting firm DreamBuilder Financial and Law Firm Growth coaching organization Profit with Law, Moshe has proven that there are better and different ways for a law firm to do business and be successful. Our mission is to empower all people with wealth creation so that this and future generations can lead a better life. We’d love nothing more than to do this by helping law firm owners on their journey. A law firm is not for practice it’s for profit!
Profit with Law: Profitable Law Firm Growth
Billable Hours: How to Charge More (Ethically)– with Jonathan Stark - 503
Shownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/503.
Hourly billing feels safe—but it’s actually one of the biggest traps holding law firms back. It limits your earning potential, creates tension with clients, and keeps you stuck trading time for money instead of building real value.
In this episode, Moshe Amsel sits down with Jonathan Stark, author of Hourly Billing Is Nuts and a leading voice in alternative pricing, to unpack why the billable hour model is broken—and what to do instead.
From fixed fees to subscription models, Moshe and Jonathan break down how to charge more ethically, boost client trust, and create a firm that grows without burning you out.
⏰It’s time to double your take-home pay and cut hours in ½.
Long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it are not fun revenue rollercoasters for any solo attorney.
In a free, 30 minute call, we help law firm owners with a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth.
In that growth call, get:
🗺️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm
🔎Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back
📈 Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth
Book your free session before spots fill up (they go fast): https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysession
Chapters:
[00:00] The hidden dangers of hourly billing—and why it’s holding your firm back
[03:49] Jonathan Stark’s journey: from developer to champion of alternative pricing
[07:20] The real problem with hourly rates—and how they cap your profits
[13:25] Why hourly billing breaks trust and motivation with clients
[18:30] Beyond contingency: fixed fees, value pricing, and subscriptions for law firms
[23:26] Flat fees done right: why pricing is more strategic than you think
[25:23] Subscription billing: predictable revenue, happier clients, stronger cash flow
[29:33] Value-based pricing: charge more by aligning with client outcomes
[40:27] Side-by-side pricing: boost profits instantly with fixed fees
[45:13] Action plan: test alternative billing and unlock your firm’s growth
Resources mentioned:
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