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435 Podcast: Southern Utah
Stem Cells and Superhuman Strength: The World Strength Games Coming to St. George
Witness history in the making as the World Strength Games returns to St. George on May 23-24 2025, transforming the Dixie Convention Center into an arena where human potential collides with physical impossibility. Since its humble beginnings in 2017 with just 11 athletes, this event has exploded into an international phenomenon, officially documenting 121 world records and counting.
What makes the World Strength Games unique isn't just the superhuman feats of strength—it's the strategic format where athletes must choose their weights wisely, getting just two attempts to etch their names in history. Think of it as high-stakes poker where competitors must decide: play it safe or risk everything for glory. This creates an electric atmosphere as athletes from Australia, Sweden, and across America push the boundaries of human capability.
The crowd favorite remains the iconic 402-pound basalt stone carry, modeled after Iceland's famous Husafell Stone but deliberately made more challenging. Last year, spectators erupted as competitors who seemed physically incapable hoisted this massive stone and carried it distances no one thought possible. This year, local hero Miles Kinikini will attempt to shatter the Farmer's Walk world record by carrying a mind-boggling 460 pounds in each hand.
Beyond strongman, this evolved fitness expo now features USA Wrestling tournaments, Ninja Warrior courses, CrossFit challenges through the Summit Games, and an NFL-style combine for aspiring athletes. Legendary figures in strength sports will be present, including four-time World's Strongest Man Magnus Ver Magnusson and potentially current reigning World's Strongest Man Tom Stoltman.
Perhaps most fascinating is how this event showcases human potential across all demographics. From 73-year-old grandmothers carrying refrigerator-sized weights to discussions on regenerative medicine with stem cell pioneer Dr. Greg Smith, the World Strength Games illustrates that strength isn't just about muscle—it's about pushing limits in every aspect of human performance.
Guest Russell Anderson, Founder of the World Strength Games. Connect with Russell on his IG: https://www.instagram.com/desertvikingstrongman/?igsh=N3BleDZ6NjNvcGU2#
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[00:00:00] Intro.
[00:05:10] The Evolution of Strongman Competition.
[00:09:30] Breaking World Records in St George.
[00:15:22] Event Attractions Beyond Strongman.
[00:21:27] The Enhanced Games Discussion.
[00:35:00] Regenerative Medicine and Stem Cell Therapy.
[00:50:11] Event Details and Community Impact.
[01:08:33] Closing Thoughts and Future Vision.
We even have one of the greatest stem cell doctors in the entire world, dr Greg Smith, who will be there to talk and answer questions about stem cells, which isn't this murky thing that's lingering about. It's here and it's ready to go, and I've been treated with stem cells. It's one of the reasons why I'm still able to compete in my mid-50s.
Speaker 2:From the Blue Form Media Studios. This is the 435 Podcast, the pulse of Southern Utah. If you're looking for a nice cup of coffee and you're in downtown St George, fs Coffee Co, that's where you're going to want to stop. It's right there on the corner of Tabernacle and Main Street in downtown St George. So if you've got a bicycle, ride it on down there and grab a drip coffee and tell them. The 435 guys sent you. The event's going to be in May. So the World Strength Games in St George is going to be in May. I think the banner you got this back from 2024. How long have you guys been doing this? So since?
Speaker 1:2017. Okay, in 2017, we brought in 11 athletes a few from Canada, mostly from the United States and we called it the World Super Yolk and Farmer's Walk Championship, and so we broke 17 world records, but they were unofficial. They were unofficial, and so the trolls took over and all the critics took over and they said you're not part of a federation, so they can't be official, right? So we went right ahead and formed a federation, declared ourselves the World Strength Games and in 2018, from then on, it was the World Strength Games, based out of St George. There was one year that we left St George that was 2023, where a billionaire coaxed us away from St George to Orlando right by Disney World, and we broke the American deadlift record there. One of our athletes deadlifted 1,031 pounds.
Speaker 3:Didn't Eddie Hall just break that record at like 1,100 pounds or something?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the world record which is back and forth between him and Thor Bjornsson the Mountain from Game of Thrones. Right, but this was the American deadlift record. One of our athletes, dimitar Sabatinov. He broke the American deadlift record and that's since been broken by five pounds by Trey Mitchell, who's a World's Strongest man finalist. That's crazy. Mitchell, who's a world's strongest man finalist. That's crazy.
Speaker 3:Well, we do we do.
Speaker 1:We do hold 121 world records that are official. Most of those happened in St George proper happened right there, Miles from you guys.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's so crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just just so you know. So everybody knows I just PR at 455 pounds on dead lifts. Just you know throwing it out there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right on Throwing it out there. Yeah, You're almost to five plates.
Speaker 3:I know, I know, I know I'll get there. I'll keep going. Once I get to five plates maybe I'll kind of settle down a little bit. But I really enjoy deadlifting. It's my favorite lift. Well, you know, you're good at deadlifts. When commercial gyms hate you, why? Why do they hate? Why do they hate you? Because you're noisy, you're paying weights around you're, you're yelling and screaming and I don't know, you're bending bars.
Speaker 4:Yes, russ has a good one at planet fitness to tell you guys about yeah.
Speaker 1:So I gotta tell you guys, this is probably podcast worthy. So at the time I was, you know, top five in the world in deadlifts, so we decided we'd find somewhere to work out. We were doing motivational speaking in the Bay Area, so we didn't know about Planet Fitness. It wasn't really a thing, right? So this is one of the first ones. So we went in there and started deadlifting you know, 225, 315, 405 for reps. And then at the time it was pretty good, we were getting ready for the world championships.
Speaker 1:I deadlifted 650 pounds and I wanted to do three reps, right? So I do first two reps and then finally put the third one down, and I was surrounded by Filipino guys, like six Filipino guys that were employees of Planet Fitness. I call it Planet Weakness, by the way. Anyway, they surrounded us and then the purple lunk alarm went off, right, so I thought I was being punked, right? The purple alarm goes off and I go. What's that? They go, that's the lunk alarm.
Speaker 1:You set the lunk alarm off, I go. What does that mean? They go. That means you get a warning and then the next time you set it off, you have to leave the premises. What? Yeah, because you're too loud, too loud, yeah. So I took it up to 665, got one rep I was wasted at the time, right and slammed it back down and they all came running and said that's it, you're out of here. And I said great, you guys can rack the weights. I just walked out. Yeah, I timed it so I could leave my big weight turd there and they could clean it up, right.
Speaker 2:The weight turd. I like that, I like that. Well, I think you know, when I think of strongman, I always think of, like, people from all over the world. You know, it seems like it's a pretty small niche, but is that even accurate? Is it a small niche or is it growing? So you remember when UFC started.
Speaker 1:I'm not answering your question. You remember when UFC started and it was Kimo against Hoist Gracie, and one guy's six foot five, 300 pounds, and the other guy's a tiny little Brazilian guy, and it was everybody against everybody. Well, strongman used to just be the big guys and now it has several weight classes, anywhere from, you know, 80 kilos, 2.2.40 pounds, right, 80 kgs, clear up to basically unlimited. So the giant monsters, right, but there are specific weight classes and age classes after age 40, 40 to 49, your master's class, or 50 to 59, 60 to 69. Same with women. There's a whole bunch of weight classes and age classes, and so now it's more mainstream. It's out of the niche category. And then over in Europe, especially in Great Britain, they sell out arenas of 30,000 people in an hour because it's as big or bigger than UFC over there. I mean, just after soccer. It's strong man. So, and it's finally coming here. Some of the biggest events in the world are right here in the United States, including World's Strongest man, and so it's definitely out of the niche category.
Speaker 4:And also we've seen a big spike since COVID. Because you couldn't go to the gyms, people didn't have gyms. That's become a big thing for strongman as well. What do you mean? So when COVID shut down all the gyms and no one could attend, you had people grab stones and grab logs and yokes and farmer implements and then they started to actually start the sport of strongman because there was no other option.
Speaker 1:You couldn't go to commercial gyms, but you could go to your garage gym with your local strongman nutcase that had all the implements right. You could train outside. You go to commercial gyms, but you could go to your garage gym with your local strongman nutcase that had all the all the implements right. You could train outside. You could lift logs, you could lift boulders, you could do the farmer's walk or yoke or things like that. So so I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that makes sense. So, because what I was thinking is what makes the world strength games different than the strong man, is it? You know, the strong man's just lifting weights, and then the strength games and and forgive me, cause I'm I'm coming out of this as like a no, no, it's perfect.
Speaker 1:I don't know anything Perfect. It dovetails in real, real easily. So what separates us is our primary focus is not on a set weight for a set distance and then have it timed. Uh, we are there to try and break world records. So every single weight class has been training for over a year and they're coming from all over the world to St George. Everybody's trying to break a world record in their weight class. And then, second to that are the world titles. So they are world titles. Under our federation it's a world championship, but most of the athletes I'd say 90%, are going to be there to try and break a world record for their weight class or age class or both are going to be there to try and break a world record for their weight class or age class or both.
Speaker 4:And then another part, just so you know, rob, the typical strongman when you watch on ESPN with World's Strongest man. They've set what weight they're going to lift, so they'll put in eight, 10, 12 athletes and then they'll compete to see who's the fastest, who can do it the longest, who can finish. Ours, russ, has set the bar so that they're actually picking it. So let's say you're working out. Jeff just mentioned how much he's hitting on his deadlift. He's really proud. He wants to beat all the guys in his class. He can set that weight. So they get two attempts and they get to choose how big do they want to go past the world record so, brad, you probably probably start off with like a 525.
Speaker 1:You get your opener, you only get two chances and then go. You know you've done four 55,. Four 60 is your second one. You get that one. In order for him to beat you, he'd have to get four 65. Okay, okay, got it. So it's almost like a poker game. Right, you got? You got a full house, while I got four aces.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got four aces. Yeah, it's almost like a one-upper, you got to one-up them.
Speaker 3:Yep, that's cool, I like that.
Speaker 2:And then the different categories. So I think this is just from what I found online. So there's like log, press, deadlifts, stone carries, what other kind of events and stuff? If somebody's going to go to the games here, it's at the Dixie Center in May, end of May. What were the dates? May 26th, the 23rd and the 24th that's a Friday and Saturday 23rd and 24th. So what are some of the other events?
Speaker 1:So the ones you mentioned. Plus, we have the Farmer's Walk, which you've, guys seen that, where you have handles that are loaded with weight. We have some pretty formidable athletes in that regard. We have an athlete up here in Salt Lake City that's deep into the 400s. The world record is 455 pounds per hand. Guys are proud of themselves. Guys are proud of themselves when they carry a couple of gallons of milk out of Smith's to the car. Right, this guy Tuesday night. Right One of the guys that I train. This guy Tuesday night. Right, one of the guys that I trained. He carried 415 pounds, almost the same as your deadlift 415 pounds per hand. You know, 830 pounds stood up and walked easily in 12 seconds 50 feet with 830 pounds.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I watched that video. It's impressive.
Speaker 1:So if that guy can add basically 45 pounds 45 to what he's done, he will break the all-time world record at any weight, right there in st george, in front of your eyeballs and that's cool.
Speaker 4:That's miles kenny. Kenny, he'll be there at the world strength games may 23rd and 24th, so everybody can come see him. He just had a baby. He's how old is miles?
Speaker 1:He's 26.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's 26 years old. He got his pro card last year from us. But if he, if he does four, 65, or if he chooses to do more, 60, if he does four, 65 or higher 60, not four 65, but he's going for four, 65, correct.
Speaker 1:Four, 60. Okay.
Speaker 4:But if he goes higher than all professional strongmen Thor, eddie Shaw, anybody who's out there that's still competing.
Speaker 1:They've never done it.
Speaker 4:They've never done that per hand, so he'll go where nobody's ever gone.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's lots of strong guys. We've talked about them already. None of those aforementioned names have ever done 455 pounds per hand for 50 feet Never happened. So that's one example of the many. Last year, we broke 19 world records in St George and this year we'd like to break more than 20. And we have 121 since our meager beginning in 2017. We had the two COVID years, gentlemen, where we couldn't compete at all St George City, washington County, the state of Utah. The feds even said if you put a show on, you're liable for anything that happens. You remember the chaos with COVID? It was crazy, or or or. They wanted us to compete with masks and that's just a non-starter, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, it didn't make any sense anyway. Everybody lost their mind. We had a blip on the, on the radar there, but we can, uh, we can come back from that. We're coming back from that, okay. So so what do you? What do you think the most popular event is? You know what? What are?
Speaker 1:the ones that the guys are really hunting for gals, cause it's it's men and women. So that's what that one's easily answered. We have an iconic stone that's roughly the same size and weight as the famous Husefell stone in Iceland, which was once part of an ancient goat and sheep pen. And to become a full Viking, a full Sturker Viking, you had to pick up that 410 pound stone and carry it around, this stone goat and sheep pen, and if you carried it all the way, you were a full Sturker, not half Sturker, but full Sturker, a true Viking, right Jeff's?
Speaker 2:a half Sturker. Jeff's a half Sturker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, half Sturker would be kind of like a Prius, where a full-stirker would be like a Dodge Ram.
Speaker 2:I'm just a goat herder. I'm just a goat herder. He could be a stooker. I'll just be a herder of the goats 410, man.
Speaker 1:I don't even know it really hard to grab onto, but it's probably about it's probably that stone that I'm telling you about. It's named after its town, which is called Husafell, iceland, and Magnus Fjern. Magnuson, the guy that's coming to be one of our judges and emcees. He's a four-time world's strongest man. He's like the Michael Jordan of our sport, so he'll be there. Rarely do you see an athlete argue with him. It literally is like arguing with Michael Jordan. It's ridiculous, right? Yeah, so he'll be there and he's carried that Husserl stone many, many times. In fact, it's been part of World's Strongest man. We now have an iconic stone. It's named after Magnus. This stone is made of basalt, just like the Husserl stone, but it's only 402 pounds. But after that it's harder in every way that you can think of. It's harder than the hoosville stone because it's thicker. It carries more weight towards the top and the shape is harder.
Speaker 4:It's just really really tough.
Speaker 1:You have to pick it up kind of sideways and then you got to pull that thing up to your chest. The world record on that thing is 49 feet. Excuse me, 48 feet, 49 would be the world. Can we get a picture?
Speaker 2:of this thing? Do you find a picture of this thing mal?
Speaker 4:and also, jeff, you mentioned cory anderson, one of our favorite lifters. Yeah, he actually got that last year.
Speaker 1:Cory the guy you mentioned, the head coach at utah tech there, right, a totally dynamic person. I mean, talk about multi-faceted, he's good at everything that he does. He picked up that 402 pound stone last year and went about 35 feet. I don't think anybody gave him a chance to do it because there were so many zeros and Corey was a master's athlete, so he was in the 40 to 49 group and nobody was even paying attention because those guys weren't required to carry the 402 pound stone. Corey said let's give it a go. What people didn't realize is he's one of the best stone lifters in the state of Utah. You know three and a half million people. He's one of the two or three best stone lifters in the whole state.
Speaker 4:And as a master I would say he'd compete against any world athletes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Corey's videos on my Instagram account on the World Strength Games World Strength Games 2025. Yeah, on that instagram account, cory's one of the pinned videos because it's just so amazing what he did.
Speaker 2:He just manhandles that stone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, he's so he builds houses down here, so we're in real estate and and so we kind of have that connection as well. But, um, every time I talk to him, yeah, whether it's about, you know, building or real estate or something like that I always, we always always get going down that rabbit hole. But the cool thing about Corey is that he's in that class, but I think he's like 48 or 49. But man, he's so strong, it's so impressive, yeah, so impressive.
Speaker 1:He can carry 800 pounds on his back for 50 feet, and think about that, that's two full refrigerators. That's so crazy.
Speaker 2:That is crazy. So the stone carry, that's the big draw. The crowd comes around. Yeah, to answer your question.
Speaker 1:That's our most popular event and so you got a bunch of zeros. Guys can't even get the stone off the ground right. And then last year we had a guy from Guyana, from South America, right Part of the uh the uh Dutch colonies in the new world. He picked up that stone at 200 pounds. 200 pounds, so the stone's more than twice as heavy as him. He picked it up and went 24 feet and that video went crazy. It has like 40,000, 43,000 views, whatever it is Wow.
Speaker 1:But, that that's. He was the first guy to get it, and then people just went crazy. We all had eardrum damage, you know. So it was so loud. It's going to be louder this year inside of the Dixie center with those acoustics. It's going to be very, very loud, That'll be awesome.
Speaker 3:So can folks just like just show up and kind of hang out and meet the athletes and and stuff like that?
Speaker 1:So here's where I watch my pie hole. Abby's going to tell you all about ticketing.
Speaker 4:So they can reach out to your podcast if they want to help follow and share your podcast and earn tickets to the World Strength Games. There will be ticketing at the door but they can earn tickets if they want to help out this podcast and get the word out. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if they don't want to help you out, then they can buy tickets at the door.
Speaker 1:Sweet. We'll allot you guys 100 tickets for your St George listeners.
Speaker 2:That'd be awesome. That'd be awesome, so thank you for doing that. That'll be great. They can get online ahead of time too, though, if they don't want to get it at the door. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1:And they can do an expo pass, so it's good for both days. It's like a bounce back pass, okay. But it's not just a world strongman or strongman type stuff or strong women stuff. We also have a USA wrestling. They're having a tournament there.
Speaker 4:Saturday.
Speaker 1:On Saturday, and then we also have a Ninja Warriors oh cool.
Speaker 2:So there'll be a full Ninja Warrior course there. We got a lot of really really impressive Ninja Warriors that come out of St George. There's a bunch of kids that have gone to the American Ninja Warrior stuff. We got a lot of good gyms and good training camps here as well.
Speaker 4:A lot of people don't know that. And then we're excited too, because you guys have a ton of CrossFitters and so we've got I don't know if you've heard of the group up here in Salt Lake, but the Summit Games. They are actually going to do a CrossFit challenge at the World Strength Games and so they'll participate with us at that event as well.
Speaker 1:And there'll be a whole bunch of supplement booths not even pre-workouts, proteins, apparel therapy, things like that. We even have one of the greatest stem cell doctors in the entire world, dr Greg Smith, who will be there to talk and answer questions about stem cells, which isn't this murky thing that's lingering about. It's here and it's ready to go, and I've been treated with stem cells. It's one of the reasons why I'm still able to compete in my mid-50s.
Speaker 4:Well, and tell them about the record you're going to break at the World Strength and Weightlifting. Yeah, so to prove my point, that stem cells work.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be attempting a world record. I'm going to be attempting a world record. I'm going to attempt to carry 905 pounds on my back. Wow, For 50 feet right there in St George.
Speaker 4:How old are you?
Speaker 1:I'm 55 years old. I'm closer to 60 than 50. But because of regenerative medicine mostly stem cells right there in St George on River Road, my back's good now. My knees are good. Tuesday night not years ago, but Tuesday night I carried 870 pounds for 50 feet, and so I'm 35 pounds away from the world record. You got it.
Speaker 3:How is? And I should know the answer to this question. But when you're saying carry, you know eight 900 pounds on your back, is that like an Olympic bar with weight loaded that you're walking, or how what's?
Speaker 1:the mechanism. It's kind of like that, but it's a frame. It's called a yoke and even cross. You know, like, you know, like all the yoke references from the bible, so it's a big three inch bar it goes around your shoulders yeah, it's not too far up on your neck, it'll break your neck.
Speaker 1:It's not too far down your back or it'll skin you like a potato. But you you kind of clench and put it across your traps and then you pull in on the sides and I mean as soon as you stand up with both feet if it's over 800 pounds the blackness starts to creep in as soon as you stand up Right. So you're cutting off blood, you're cutting off oxygen and then when you get into the nines, you start to have auditory and visual hallucinations. So you have to ignore what you hear, you have to ignore what you see and keep walking. And 50 feet seems like 500 yards. You know, it just never comes. But it's pretty awesome too, because we're literally flirting with physics and the human limit. Yeah, so think about redlining a human being. That's really fun to watch. It may not be fun to participate, but it's super fun to watch.
Speaker 4:Oh, it's fun for him to participate.
Speaker 2:It's fun at the end to look back yeah.
Speaker 1:It's fun when it's over, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's fun to accomplish.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean but if it was something everybody could do right, then we'd all be talking about it. But if it's something that nobody's done right ever now, everybody's quiet and then they're suddenly very, very loud. It's pretty cool, pretty amazing. And then most of these athletes have already done it in practice. You know, a few weeks they're, they're, they're trying to uh, you know they're trying to apex. A few weeks before or right at the games, they're trying to time it perfectly. And then you know, half of our athletes are going to have to deal with jet lag because they're coming from australia or scandinavia yeah, that that was.
Speaker 2:The next question I had was where, where are these guys coming from? I mean, how many, uh, how many contest, how many athletes are going to be there, and then where they come from so we have about 150 just for the strong man competition this year.
Speaker 4:We have about 12 from sweden. How many do we have from australia?
Speaker 1:so last year we had two from Sweden. They talked about St George, and now we have 14. Nice, and then we had two Aussies last year. They talked about how awesome St George is, and we'll have 12 Aussies. And so this is what's happening People come, they participate in St George, and it's not just the games. They see Snow Canyon, they see the Cinder Cone Volcano we opened the games last year inside of the cone of the Cinder Cone Volcano, which is pretty awesome. That's cool. And then you know that just freaks people out, and so what they tend to do is share those memories or share those videos with people from their homeland, and then they want to come, and that's why the event gets bigger and bigger every year, and this will be our biggest one yet. And we need the Dixie Center. We're going to need all 46,000 square feet.
Speaker 2:Man. That's going to be awesome. That's a big event. It's easy to overlook some of these huge draws to Southern Utah with all these different events. We had the World Senior Games, we had Ironman for several years. This is another cool world event that takes place in our town because it's so awesome.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's true. I think, to add to that too, this is probably one of those events that, either through this podcast or just maybe word of mouth, that I bet, I bet there's going to be a lot of people that will show up that maybe don't work out or don't lift weights, that maybe aren't interested too much, but they just want to come see how crazy it is.
Speaker 4:And that's why it's called the Fitness Expo after the World Strength Games this year. We haven't pushed that before because we didn't have a large facility like we do this year. So we're going to have about 50 to 60 vendors that will offer anything from health to wellness, to fitness to just great food products. Right that people can find out whether you're local or you're from around the area that we want to offer.
Speaker 1:And here's some news for you we work with greater Zion fellas. You know about greater Zion, right? Oh yeah, oh yeah, we kind of had to test ourselves last year. They put us in the parking lot of the city office building where they have the fairgrounds. Yeah, and we're fine with that, right? I mean, we're used to training in parking lots on black tops.
Speaker 4:So that's not the full story.
Speaker 1:Anyway, long story short, so we broke all those world records. Last year. We had over, you know, 1100 people a day, and it was nice in the morning, you know St George's. Around noon people didn't want to sit in aluminum stands in the midday heat, yeah, and so we would lose a few people. And if you, if you have kids like we do, they start complaining Now we'll be indoors, it'll be 68 degrees. There won't be problems with elements. We've already proven ourselves and they're not going to renew the contract for Ironman.
Speaker 1:So this will be the last year for that. So we are poised to grab that number four spot and just keep growing this expo. We have a friend of a friend who actually started the Arnold Classic in Columbus, ohio. That's 250,000 people for three days and hundreds and hundreds of booths right, it's like a mosh pit. You know, we're a far cry from that. But why can't St George have a giant fitness expo that draws athletes and vendors and media from around the world? I can't think of a better place than St George, and so we need the community support people that are curious.
Speaker 1:If you've ever seen World's Strongest man on TV I mean, it's fun. I used to stay up till you know two, three, four o'clock in the morning to watch it. Probably had marriage problems because of it, but that was my thing. If I want to see Magnus Ver Magnuson or Brian Shaw or these guys, then you'd have to stay up and watch the reruns on ESPN. If you can watch these guys live, if you can go there and sit in the stands with your wristband on and watch these guys live, they will do things that you can't believe, because superheroes are for the movies, right. This is as close as human beings get to being superheroes, and Corey Anderson's one of them.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. That's a good shout out for Corey.
Speaker 4:We need to make sure we send this over to Corey. He's getting getting up there for sure. Yeah, he's getting some shout outs. And for your locals that are are part of this podcast and watch this podcast, we're going to have Utah strongest kid from up in salt Lake. They have a child's a strongman competition up here.
Speaker 4:Last year they had like a hundred kids in the parking lot and it was amazing and fun for the kids. We're going to have them there so kids can participate. National Guard's going to be at this event and they're going to have some kid things. And then St George city is going to be teaming up with Jaylee too. At the agency for real estate she's got a booth with St George city to give the locals some prizes and stuff. So we're going to make sure that the kids of St George get some fun stuff to do as well.
Speaker 3:Man, that'll be awesome. It's definitely a full family thing. Do you guys still have like, if somebody wants to participate in the vendors section, are there open booths that people can still do?
Speaker 4:that We've still got a few left. We need a couple more food vendors, if we've got any like smoothie places or regular, and then yeah, we've got a few. We've got about 10 booths left.
Speaker 1:That they, you know, 20 by tens, a few 10 by tens, and for those food vendors it's 1500 bucks. But you have a captive audience there, Right, and so it's almost like uh, it's almost like drinks and nachos at a baseball game. Um, we have a captive audience. You can, you can charge a little bit more, and people will still buy it because they don't want to leave and miss the action.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, right, right, all right, I got to. I want to take it to a different, maybe a little different direction. I'd like your opinion on this. What do you think about the enhanced games? What's going on with?
Speaker 4:I love them. I want to speak for rest us. I love them. And this is why I watched the whole podcast with Joe Rogan Right. That's the one we're talking about.
Speaker 2:I didn't, I didn't, I didn't listen to the one with Rogan. I haven't seen that one yet, but I've heard about it heard about it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, rogan had the enhanced guys on and I loved it, and this is why the Olympics they allow non-Americans to be enhanced, but then Americans are held to this higher standard, which is not okay in my opinion, right? So just so everybody can officially know Russ and my position on this we are libertarian minded. We don't care if people are enhanced or non-enhanced in russ's sport. Typically, people have taken steroids. Russ, personally, has never taken steroids. I'm a very proud wife that he's accomplished what he's had with no steroids. But we're not anti-steroids and I think it's cool that they're allowing it to be actually open, as opposed to where, in my opinion, the olympics close that off and pretend that it's not that case the russians, I mean that's happened with mario pugnowski.
Speaker 1:So let me, let me answer this from a promoter perspective. Okay, uh, we're barry bonds fans, we're mark mcguire fans, we're sammy sosa fans. We wish they would have hit 80 home runs. We don't care that they took stuff, we're not we're, we just don't care, right. And so at the world strength games we'll do no drug testing. I've had athletes come up to me going. You know, I just lost to a guy that has zits on his back who's 35 years old. Right, jimmy cracked corn and we don't care.
Speaker 4:And Russ has lost to people, but he's also beaten people on steroids and I've lost people on steroids.
Speaker 1:You know what it's like you know you get a chance to play Alabama, right? Yeah, you're probably going to get smoked, but you got a shot of beating them, yeah, and so we just leave it open. It's not worth it. It's not worth it to us to pick and choose who's going to be drug tested and then pay for the drug testing and then steal all the thunder by saying, hey, you know you'll be awarded your gold medal once we have you pee in this cup and we take your blood. We're just not going to do that, uh well, it seems like games.
Speaker 2:It seems like to me that the in all the testing, it's basically a cat and mouse game.
Speaker 1:It's like you know they're gonna the.
Speaker 2:The way of getting around the testing is such that you never have full 100 confidence that the ones that are competing have not been enhanced in some kind of way.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. So let me ask you this, fellas, let's just use the baseball, just just for kicks. Let's use baseball.
Speaker 2:I'm a big baseball guy. It's opening day, baby. It's opening day, it's Thursday.
Speaker 1:It's opening day. All the guys that had LASIK surgery over the last 30 years right.
Speaker 2:Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 1:Tommy John surgery. Those are performance enhancing surgeries that wouldn't have worked in the old days. And if you're waxing, not nostalgic, if you're waxing nostalgic, right, it's not fair to Roger Maris. He couldn't get eye surgery back then. Well, sorry, that's just how it goes. The equipment's improved, things have improved. The baseballs aren't even the same for crying out loud. But to tell you this, the best thing for showbiz is to break records. Yeah, so it's a little bit wild, wild west, but that's just better. The athletes at the World's Strongest man are not tested. The athletes at the Arnold Classic and the Rogue Classic they're not tested.
Speaker 2:So you know what.
Speaker 1:Honestly, the paying public largely does not care and wants to see bigger, better numbers.
Speaker 4:I can't wait to attend the enhanced games. I think that'll be a fun experience to have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we think it's cool.
Speaker 4:And I think it's great that they I mean they even talk on that Joe Rogan podcast. They even talked in a kind way towards the Olympics. They're not trying to compete with the Olympics, they're just trying to offer another alternative, which is what we are.
Speaker 1:We are an alternative to what else is in strong man, and it's it's we'd rather attend the enhanced games with you two guys than sit at the Olympics and watch that opening ceremony. How?
Speaker 2:about that. Yeah, I appreciate that I don't want to watch that either. So, um, yeah, loud and clear, loud and clear.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, to that point too, too, I this is kind of weird, but I, I just grew up my dad's really big into cycling, road cycling, and so I just I make it a point to watch the tour de france and they're like it's just a bunch of guys riding bikes, but there's actually a lot more to it, sure, and uh, um it it is. It is impossible to compete in that race unless you are doing something other than just riding a bike. Right, you have to do it, and people want to see it. It's, it's um, like to your point, russ, it, it's the showmanship of it, um, and it makes it. I mean to watch a guy climb up a 20% grade five miles sprinting straight. It's fun to watch.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, just kind of what we try to do. I I'm on the MCI of the microphone a lot of the day and sometimes I'm with Bill Kazmaier, three-time world's strongest man. He won't be there this year he's had some issues but Magnus will be there and talking in his his Viking accent he speaks old Norse, by the way. Travis Travis Ortmeier will be there. He's an eight-time world's Strongest man finalist and we can go ahead and say it. We're working on having three-time World's Strongest man and current reigning World's Strongest man, tom Stoltman from Scotland.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's 95% confirmed.
Speaker 1:We're working on having him there too, and we literally will have put together the biggest stars of any strength sports show in the history of Utah. This will be it. By the way, this will be the biggest one in the history of Utah.
Speaker 4:And yesterday we just signed another event. Talking, Jeff, about lots of events. We don't want this just to be Strongman. This is ultimately going to grow into something really large where we can have lots of different participants and lots of different events happening. We just signed up with Track it Verified and, Russ, you want to tell them about that?
Speaker 1:So they are the only guys in the whole intermountain west that do an nfl style combine with the same equipment. So it's not subjective nonsense with a stopwatch. You know my son ran a 4340? No, he didn't. He actually runs a 47 and never could run a 45 right. So these cut, these guys come in and and introduce in fact they had a demo down there in st george's a little while ago but they allow them to come and do all of the same NFL combine stuff. But it's for high school kids who are looking to play college football and it's run by former NFL and BYU and Utah football players. So the guys know what they're doing and they're going to have a booth at the world strength games.
Speaker 2:So the track it system is basically like you using video tracking or some kind of digital tracking to make sure that you're getting a really clear, accurate um stat.
Speaker 1:It's almost like a stat cast if you're going back to the pros and the colleges are going to believe that because of the source that it comes from, instead of uh bob, the track coach at payson high.
Speaker 4:So they they, they video that and, like you just said, rob, they make sure everything's recorded and have documentation of that video and everything. And then they create a profile for the athlete so that all those schools that are entertained by that athlete or want to entertain that athlete with a scholarship can then go to that profile and grab them their junior or senior year.
Speaker 1:But Porter Gustin, who played for USC and also played, you know, for years in the NFL for the Browns and the Dolphins, he'll be there, he'll be signing autographs and that booth will be full of who's who from the state of Utah, former NFL football players. But they got something pretty special if you've got a kid in high school football, and they'll have a booth there and they'll have all their demo stuff there and it's actually not expensive to have your son get involved with them and it'll be done the right way and they'll have all their demo stuff there and it's actually not expensive to have your, your son get involved with them and it'll be done the right way and they'll know what they need to improve on because it's accurate. Every single thing is accurate.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. That's really interesting. Okay, Thinking about we talked about well, you know who's going to be there. How did you guys get this started? Like, maybe take me back to like you started in 2017.
Speaker 4:Obviously, you got a love for the games, but so tell him all the competition you put on before, so we put on over 60 competitions over the last 20 years.
Speaker 1:Right, we own and run Salt Lake Strongest man, which is now a world qualifier. We own and run St George's Strongest man and actually Byron Anderson, Corey's son was in St George's Strongest and his daughter-in-law yeah yeah, In fact we ran a St George's Strongest man two years ago at Rigotti's in that alleyway right behind the pizza shop.
Speaker 2:Oh, nice Cool.
Speaker 1:We pulled, we pulled a fire engine there.
Speaker 4:That was one of the events. Yeah, the fall of the flag.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pretty, pretty awesome stuff. But I digress in 20,. Actually, let's go back to 2016. I was the chair for an organization, a strongman organization. I was the chairman for the state of Utah and in our events we always tried to break state, national and world records, and we did it. And then I would ask about certain records for certain weight classes, and the gentleman above me who ran the organization would tell me you know, stop worrying about these state, national and world records, just stay in your lane and run the show. Run the show that we, we want you to run, right. Well, we didn't want that. And so I proverbially took my ball and and bat and went home and said I'm going to do my own thing yeah, but I don't have a wife. That made fun of me. My wife said let's do it right.
Speaker 1:So the next year, the very next year, we had 11 athletes in a CrossFit gym down there in St George it was actually Iron Titans gym over there on Dixie Drive and we had two Canadians and nine Americans and we broke 17 unofficial world records, right. And so the very next year, in in 2018, we were already a federation, our own federation and we brought in athletes and that that games jumped from 11 athletes to over a hundred nice, and it grew and grew and grew until we got up to 300. We capped it at 300 in 2019 with the whole covid fiasco. We had 300 athletes paid, ready to come, tickets booked and everything, and they told us to shut it down. And and they told us to shut it down. And then they told us to shut it down again and we weren't able to do the games until 2022. And we had another small one just to show that we were alive.
Speaker 1:And then in 2023, we did so well in that little small demo that a billionaire actually lured us away from St George to Orlando, florida, where we broke the American deadlift record and put on an unbelievable show and we got our momentum back. And then 2024, last year in St George awesome show, loud, fantastic. We had a great pro division with some of the monster guys. You know the guys that are six foot six, 400 pounds. We had a bunch of guys like that. In fact, the guy that won is a big, huge guy. But yeah, there were there were two years where we had to shut it down, but it goes all the way back to 2017 decided to do our own thing.
Speaker 2:So it sounds like the, the luring of the billionaire, actually worked out in your favor. Maybe tell me what do you mean?
Speaker 4:no-transcript. He came out to St George from Florida and loved it and loved the idea of what it would become once it became bigger and found this billionaire and took control for a year. So that was actually out in Florida for a year, but we want it to always be in St George and give this community eyes on, because the world loves St George when it sees it.
Speaker 1:He was an investment banker that made you know $900 million, whatever it was, and didn't really like retirement, had done some promotion of MMA and bodybuilding and some other things. And so when this friend talked to him he said, yeah, let's do it, I'll get behind you. And so we moved. We moved the games from St George for the first time to Orlando. It actually ended up being a good thing. But when all was said and done, we'd broken the American deadlift record, uh, with a big name, and uh, we decided that really wasn't where we wanted to be. We wanted to build it in St George. The whole idea was to keep it in St George, and so we kind of wavered a little bit. And then we're not going to waver anymore, we're going to keep it in St George and grow the entire event.
Speaker 2:You know this might sound crazy, but I hate real estate agents and after being with myself for the last 10 years, I know the good ones from the bad ones. If you're thinking about buying, selling or investing in real estate here in Southern Utah, we want you to interview us for the job. Go to realestate435.com and give us a call. We promise you're going to love us.
Speaker 4:Absolutely. And our large vision just so 435 Podcast knows is we found that first year at Iron Titans we had one lady from Albania and then we had um, where's kata from? Where are they from?
Speaker 4:oh yeah, we had uh fins we had the fins and we had australians. So those three countries came and we toured them through tuacon. We took them to snow canyon different things. They just were odd. Right, like anybody who's not from utah, because I'm not from utah, russus. Um, you come to utah and you're like what is this state? This is the prettiest thing I've ever seen. You think that you have to go far and you don't have to go far at all. So all these people from all over the world were in heaven and then competing, doing their favorite sport. So we figured why not have them have this amazing experience and come and enjoy the area instead of just competing? When we're talking about the Arnold, no qualms on the Arnold. We hope we could be close to the Arnold one day, but it's not beautiful in Ohio. It's not St George.
Speaker 2:You don't go outside and look at Mars. I've never been to Ohio. For anybody from Ohio, I haven't been there. I can't make a comment. It's not Rob's fault, it's my fault, but there's only a few places in the world that are like southern utah.
Speaker 1:There's only a few places in the entire world absolutely we have friends that founded and run the arnold classic there in ohio and it's the biggest sports expo in the world the biggest one, yeah. And then I was there. Actually, we had a little there's a hall of fame dinner that we got invited to. I'm not a big name at all, but I was invited there. Arnold was there, eddie hall was there, brian Shaw, all of those guys and they catered the meal. So they brought out these like blue cheese ribeye sliders, so me and Eddie Hall ate those while everybody else was waiting to shake Arnold's hand.
Speaker 1:But the guy here's the big thing, the guy that started the Arnold Classic, who's the big name there? He said, russ, with your World Strength Games, it can't just be strong man and you have to build the expo. You got to bring in the other sports and you got to have a hundred, you know 150 booths. That's how the money's made, that's how the event sustains itself. So that's the direction we're going and that's good for St George, it's good for the community, it's good for you two guys, it's good for real estate, it's good for business, and now we've got the backing of Greater Zion and what they want is to sell hotel rooms and dinners and breakfasts right, that's their whole goal. Tourism right, that's right.
Speaker 4:So we'll be responsible for how many hotel rooms this year securing outside people coming in. We're probably going to bring in, I'd say, at least 200, 250 outside people at least, and that's how they measure it, you know, by hotel rooms and nights and dinners and breakfast and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So it's just growing like crazy and that's just strong man. We have all the other sports coming, we have all the vendors coming and we have media coming from throughout the world. We actually have a media row where we have podcasts and live video, live streaming going on, and it's just going to grow and grow and grow. The state of Utah deserves this, but especially St George's. You too know, and I grew up in Northern Utah there is nowhere in the state like Southern Utah. There just isn't. And we intend to stay there and keep building the World Strength Games and Fitness Expo until it explodes and we have to move, you know, to other venues just to maintain the thing.
Speaker 2:And we have Black Desert, black Desert will fit. Yeah, we got another convention center. Black Desert's convention center is Black Desert. They've already expressed interest.
Speaker 1:So next year we'll go from five events to six, and Black Desert wants us to be out there with at least two of the events.
Speaker 4:Well, and this year Black Desert is going to host Travis Magnus and if Tom Stoltman comes out and some of the NFL players, they're going to have them do tea time out there and just kind of show them around so that next year they're ready to be out there for the weekend.
Speaker 3:Yeah, get ahold of that billionaire from Florida and say hey we want we want you involved at some capacity. We love St George. Here's why I'm inviting them out to black desert and and uh and go from there. My brain is kind of like just you know, flowing with. You know some, you know some, I guess, opportunity, potential opportunity type scenarios, um, but I love, I love the fact that you guys want to keep it in St George and grow it that way.
Speaker 4:We also welcome Jeff, you and Rob there in any capacity. You want to be a part of it and also we're glad to introduce people to real estate because we've done real estate seminars in the back so we understand where you're at and where Corey's at and wanting to build, so anything that you're doing project wise. Some of these athletes want second homes and St George is a great place to have a second home.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you gotta be careful about who moves to St George. So let's just pick these world's strongest man athletes. Yeah, let's keep the athletes.
Speaker 4:They usually like the U S yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, that's the piece of the puzzle too is is St George I mean, growing up in Northern Utah? I mean, I, I, I grew up in Northern Utah as well and would come down here for spring break and stuff like that and where it was 20 years ago compared to where it is now, it is going to keep growing, and one of the things that Rob and I love about the area is we know it's going to keep growing. How are we going to be a part of how it grows, right? Are we going to turn it into a, you know, is it going to become a Scottsdale or a Boulder, colorado or Sedona, right? Or is it going to be more of a family-friendly entrepreneur spot where you can have events like this and keep it rolling, where people want to keep coming, not just for the event but for Snow Canyon and the Tuacon and Zion and stuff like that?
Speaker 1:We've also got some major supplement manufacturers down there in St George. I'm not going to name names, you guys can probably guess, but they're going to deeply be involved in 2026 because they plan 12 months out and such yeah. So right now we've got some brands that are outside that we're going to continue to work with because they plan, you know, 12 months out and such. So right now we've got some brands that are outside that we're going to continue to work with because they're so loyal and they see the vision. And we also have what are called worldwide regional qualifiers, kind of like the baseball model where you have a AAA affiliate that feeds the Dodgers or the Angels or the Mariners or whatever it is. We have the British strength games. We'll soon have the Ohio strength games no-transcript.
Speaker 2:How do you kind of tier out the athletes? You said you capped your membership, basically the Federation membership, at 300. How do you differentiate one athlete from another?
Speaker 1:So very good question.
Speaker 1:So we used to have five or six lanes where we'd have an athlete in all six of those lanes, but we didn't get good coverage and then somebody would get shorted, somebody to have a record that wasn't covered on camera or they didn't get announced on the microphone and they just felt like they were being discriminated against, which was never the case, will limit the amount of athletes, make them a little bit better athletes, a little bit higher performing athletes, and keep it at about 150, 160, at least under 200, but have those two lanes so their friends and family and media can be up next to the, you know, the rails and film them as they're attempting these world records.
Speaker 1:So there's excellent coverage. And then we had a video that had 1.7 million views. We had a whole bunch of videos that had more than 20,000 views, right, and so it's the viral videos that we're looking for too, and so that experience is better for St George, it's better for the viewers, better for the families, it's better for the athlete. Again, we're in show business and so we want to put on a show, yeah.
Speaker 4:And those qualifiers have been held in texas. They're going to be held texas april 5th, so any of those guys that qualify can come to the 2025 world strength games or they can come to the 2026. We have florida strength games. Hulk hogan is going to actually be introducing that. Um, they're in. Where is that going to be in florida?
Speaker 1:clear water clear water.
Speaker 4:That's supposed to be around november september. We've got British strength games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we also have the summit games.
Speaker 4:So we've got a bunch of qualifiers that feed into this each year to help.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's growing like crazy, and it's like Sturgis with Harleys, right? Everybody that owns a Harley wants to go to Sturgis and ride out there and hang out, right? Well, all of these athletes and their families and their friends and their coaches and their media from their countries want to make it to St George, and so this literally puts Utah and St George and even some of our athletes, it spotlights them here in Utah on the map. It puts us on the map, and so we want to keep this. We don't want to fumble it away, and so we need all hands on deck. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:That makes sense. Community is so big on Instagram and Facebook and stuff like that, Maybe, uh, maybe, trying to get a big fitness influencer, like you know, off the top of my head I'm thinking, like you know, Joey swole or something like that from.
Speaker 3:Instagram or Steve cook from St George, brian shot. Yeah, steve cook, yeah, brian shot. I funny story about Brian shot. I lived around the corner from him in Colorado for a few years and really didn't even know it and then all of a sudden he posted a couple of videos and I'm like, wait a minute, that's like around the corner from me and so I never got to know.
Speaker 3:I had a thought to just like swing by his house and maybe try and go work out with him in his gym or something, cause he I don't think he at that point wasn't as big on social media as he is now. Now he's huge, you know. Or he is now now he's huge, um, you know. Or like a jesse james west, you know, he's got like 10 million subscribers. You know. Like getting one of those social media influencers to come to one of those events would, uh, would probably blow up because people fly in. I mean, he does meet and greets and people fly in from all over the world just to meet him, you know, yeah yeah, what are some we get a little bit of that with magnus.
Speaker 1:Magnus has millions, millions of fans worldwide and people get the weak knees when he signs their hat and things like that. He'll be there the entire weekend. You guys need to know this. On the 22nd, that's kind of set up day, but we also have weigh-ins, so weigh-ins are almost like an event within an event. Yeah, so some of the athletes are going to be on the bubble, hot boxing themselves in the rental car, whatever it takes to make weight and then we have something different to me than I think it means to you.
Speaker 2:I think that means something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hot boxing in a rental car.
Speaker 1:He's a little older, so for me I'm sorry mom, I'm sorry, mom, I'm from the eighties, right, so for me it's turning up the heat and sitting in your car until you sweat it out.
Speaker 4:No, no 420 there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the weigh-ins. I'm sorry that was totally taking you off topic.
Speaker 4:No, I love it.
Speaker 2:So the weigh-ins on the 22nd, so that'll be kind of like a little mini event ahead of time and that one's free.
Speaker 1:By the way, you can go to weigh-ins for free. You don't need an expo pass Cool.
Speaker 4:And that one. We're going to have dinner, so we'll have it with Tom Stoltman. Magnus, I like the idea of Joey If we can get Joey or somebody, absolutely. I'll have to talk to you about that, jeff. So we'll have dinner with everybody and the NFL players that are going to be there, and then we'll have a couple hours of the expo open so vendors can actually get to know the athletes, because the athletes compete for two days. So we want the vendors to be able to connect with our athletes and their families as well.
Speaker 1:Well, that would be kind of like an open house and event before the event. Yeah, it's kind of fun to be at weigh-ins too. Traditionally we've done those at Dove's Barbecue over there on Sunset, but we can't do that this year with the big group that we have, and we need to be close to the Dixie Center because some athletes are staying in those hotels that are in and around the Dixie Center and so sunset's kind of a stretch for them, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Jeff, have you seen if Strap Tank Brewery is going to be open? When is it? It is.
Speaker 4:I'm pretty sure I reached out to them. They haven't gotten back to me, but they're supposed to be open, I think.
Speaker 2:That could be a great spot, cause they'll have I think they'll be able to host a lot more uh like parties.
Speaker 4:Absolutely. We have them up here to Robin Springville. Have you been to their Springville event yet? No, I haven't oh it's amazing, amazing place too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm excited for them to be with you guys in St George. We love St George. When we lived there for five years it was the best time of our lives and our kids' lives.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised you left. Why'd you leave?
Speaker 4:We left because of COVID, so Russ and I traveled for work and we couldn't get on an airplane anymore. So we had to change our career path and came up here.
Speaker 1:But now we own the two stem cell clinics, one right there in River Road, right over there at Level Up. I'll go ahead and plug them Level Up. They'll be one of our sponsors anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But we offer what are called the adipose-derived stem cells. All stem cells aren't the same. There's a hierarchy. Most stem cells come from umbilical cords or placental material and they're pretty good, but most of them are dead and the patients don't know that and oftentimes the providers don't know that either. Our stem cells that are evaluated by a third party are mostly alive 91 to 99% alive and those are the ones you want and they also differentiate into new cartilage, new muscle, new soft tissue, new bone, whatever it is really really quickly and they last longer.
Speaker 4:And we can do that on a different podcast if you ever want to talk about that, rob and Jeff, but also Magnus, tom Stoltman and Travis Ortmeyer. And we can do that on a different podcast if you ever want to talk about that, rob and Jeff, but also Magnus, tom Stoltman and Travis Ortmeier. The reason they come out and judge for us is because they get the stem cells and they had a lot of success from them last year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't want any stem cells, they want the best ones. And you could make the argument the best place to get them is right there in St George, utah.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, because I was under the impression there were some legal reasons why stem cells have not been widely accepted in the States.
Speaker 4:Is it because so we actually call them adipose allograft, like on a public setting. So we wouldn't want to tag stem cell right. Our lab's FDA compliant. We have third party testing. It's all here in the States where you can't have that out of the country. But yes, right now the FDA, while we're changing administrations, hasn't been super pro on advertising stem cells, so we don't, we just talk about allograft, but they are stem cells.
Speaker 1:And the thought with RFK Jr is that they will be. They'll rise to the apex where they need to be, because they get rid of root causes, where drugs and surgery simply turn off the alarm. While the fire rages, the patient doesn't get better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it seems like. Yeah, there's a different way about going about this. So what you're saying is, if I heard you right, they just don't like you saying stem cell. Like the marketing, it's like you could use stem cells but you can't call it stem cells. Why do we do that? I just don't understand why.
Speaker 4:Because our government is corrupt.
Speaker 2:It's always been a little bit corrupt.
Speaker 4:But the concerning part is is Americans are going over the border instead of getting actually third party tested FDA compliant, Like our labs are FDA compliant. The FDA works with our guys all the time to make sure they're not doing anything that they're going to shut them down for.
Speaker 1:If you get adipose derived stem cells here in Utah they're better than the ones you would go to Joe Rogan's guys at CPI. They're better than Mel Gibson's down in Panama. But people don't know that yet because it's so new enema. But people don't know that yet because it's so new.
Speaker 4:Well, and these are coming from adults to heal adults as opposed to using afterbirth. So if you start to go down that road, you you investigate and realize it's just a better product. But we also take care of exosomes. Exosomes are allowed and people are more like aware of them as of these days, especially for, like, facial cream and things like that.
Speaker 1:We talked about performance enhancers, remember earlier? Yeah, we're talking about Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds and all that stuff, right? Yeah, well, stem cells are that in every, every way you can think of. Testosterone levels raise you sleep. You recover like you used to when you were younger. You recover like you used to when you were younger. I know in my case, I'm able to work out with the same amount of weight that I worked out with 20 years ago and recover from it, and it's it's one of the big reasons, if I do it, that I'll be able to carry 905 pounds on my back in the Dixie center.
Speaker 2:When you do it right, when you do it, can I tell you guys, why?
Speaker 1:Because I bounced back like I used to when I was in my thirties, and so I'm kind of proven. A point Does that make?
Speaker 2:sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that that makes a whole lot of sense, I mean. And then when you, when you put your money where your mouth is, it's like I use this and I'm showing your your own case study Right, and you can show it. I mean, it's powerful for for people that understand it, and I think there's a lot of fear around the stem cell, and then the thought that you can't, you have to go out of the country to do it. That doesn't feel like it's accessible. I legitimately had no idea that you could do it right here in St George. I was thinking about it the other day 18 months ago.
Speaker 1:You were right, you had to go. The two best ones were Panama with Dr Reardon, mel Gibson's doctor, the afterbirth they do the mesenchymal stem cells and they're good. But here's the thing about those. The reason they have to give you a half a billion to a billion of those cells is because those responsible ethical doctors know full well that those cells are mostly dead. They know that, and so ours are mostly alive and so we can do smaller doses and because of because of the conditions in the state of Utah, we can inject a whole bunch of our patients in the safety and security of their own home, like the Andy Griffith show. Yeah right.
Speaker 2:Or in our clinics we have two clinics. Two clinics and Leveled Up is the name, leveled Up is both the clinics.
Speaker 4:So we operate out of Level Up, kind of like some of the other doctors there, but it's actually US Med Spa, oh, okay, and you can find us on Instagram or our websites, us med spaco. And then our one up here is in mill Creek.
Speaker 1:The location that we use is is right there at a level up on river road in St George Okay, and it's an awesome, awesome place.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to linger on the stem cell thing, Cause I'm I'm fascinated. We could do a whole nother podcast.
Speaker 2:We can just keep rolling into that because the, the, the strength games, is really interested in. I'm excited about it. But this and now, now you got me really interested in the whole stem cell thing. So you know, uh, you hurt your, you tweak your knee, you tweak your elbow, your ankle, you know things like that. What, what are you get the stem cells? It's using your own body's growth to repair itself. Maybe help me understand, like, if I'm just I don't know anything about it. Well, how can I?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So a stem cell can come from two places. It can come from you or your family members, and that's called a tallagous, or it can come from a donor, just like your blood, and that's called allograft. So we get both. We can harvest and use your family line, and that's the autologous stem cell we can use. Or we can do a donor cell and that's an allograft. So we use both. You can use both. It just varies For some people. If they're concerned about using a donor right, they don't want to get donated blood, they want it from their family Then you could go that route of harvesting. It's a little more costly and takes a little more time.
Speaker 1:And our medical director is one of the best in the world, dr Greg Smith. He's a couple of world renowned yeah, he's. He's been all over podcasting. He has two documentaries that were on Netflix and now they're on Amazon prime. It's American addict and American addict too. So kind of like the you know the big pharma thing, where big pharma knows full well that a cured patient is a lost customer.
Speaker 1:Cured patient is a lost customer. We don't care about keeping our customers. We care about helping our customers get over the root cause of their pain and their inflammation and their aging. And there's even a lot of evidence that shows these adipose derived stem cells. If aging were a pizza, it chops off a big part of that aging and even can lengthen telomeres and extend your life and your lifespan.
Speaker 4:Well, and after you get a stem cell injection, russ tell them what they get. After that they get the stem cells. So we actually inject in stem cells into them but then what? Happens with exosomes and progenitors.
Speaker 1:So what your body does with these adipose derived stem cells is they set up what are called progenitor cells and progenitor cells. You can kind of think of them as almost like a stem cell factory. And so your body will at some point, like at my age, at 55 years old, my body doesn't really make stem cells anymore. You know one or two here and there, but basically it's trying to die, it's trying to go into the grave, it's trying to die. You get these, you get these reinforcements, and they kind of sniff each other out. For about a day there's even a little bit of malaise where there's a cytokine response. Your body's like there's invaders, no, and they figure out that they're on the same team. And then what happens is your old stem cells actually mimic the new ones that aren't damaged, that come from a donor, whether it's from your family or from a screened donor and then there's massive anti-inflammatory effects.
Speaker 1:So for me, I had torn meniscuses in both knees. You can see the indentions on my knees. My lower back went from being achy and sore to solid. I was able to start squatting and deadlifting again in my fifties. And you sleep better, your skin improves it. Just, it just goes on down the line, you get better and better and better. You feel better and better, better than, ultimately, you literally can start doing some of the things that you haven't done in decades.
Speaker 4:And then what's really cool is you have exosomes which Russ can explain scientifically to you, but they actually produce more exosomes than we can inject into people. Tell them about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And so exosomes? They're not alive, but they're kind of like little general contractors. They'll say, hey, come over here and heal this cartilage, come over here and heal this broken bone, come over here and grow new blood vessels. And even though consciously you don't know really what you need, you just know where you, your body knows in details where you're hurting and has a hierarchy of needs. So if you had lung problems, a lot of exosomes and stem cells will go to your lungs. If you had liver problems, a lot of them would go there.
Speaker 1:Get torn cartilage in your knee, like me, or a bad back, like me, or a hurt shoulder, right, your body will assign stem cells and exosomes to that area and then that area will start to improve because these stem cells haven't become anything and so they differentiate into what they need to become under the right conditions. And so we help our patients, to you know, augment those right conditions and we even put them on a specific peptide regimen and also what are called senolytics and senolytics are an emerging area of science that helps our body get rid of what are called senescent or zombie cells. And these zombie cells, like all cells, they're given the signal to die. You've done your job. It's time for you to cycle out. Well, they disobey it. They become like rogue cells. Google this Zombie or senescent cells.
Speaker 3:I've seen a YouTube video on it, but it feels like one of those YouTube videos where you're like I'm not quite sure if I'm just getting duped on this or not.
Speaker 2:It's very clickable. It looks like science fiction. It seems like science fiction.
Speaker 1:They even play science fiction music when they show you the videos.
Speaker 2:I know they totally do.
Speaker 1:But I assure you that's science fact, yeah, and they figure that's a big part of aging Maybe as much as 50% of aging are these cells that damage everything. And then what they do is they excrete compounds that give us heart disease, stroke, cancer, diabetes, early aging, wrinkles, joint damage, autoimmune diseases. If you can get rid of those things and then get stem cells right there on River Road, then you're working in the right direction. You can actually stop and reverse aging. You heard me, that's not fantasy, it's fact by doing it the right way, under a doctor's supervision, because the the old, wild, wild west days of stem cells are over.
Speaker 4:Well, and let's do you mind if I ask you a personal question. Sure, okay, how old are you?
Speaker 2:38. I'm 38. So you're still a very young man, I was pretending I was 35.
Speaker 4:You're younger than we are. Yes, you're like, I want to be 35.
Speaker 3:I was going to say, Rob, you're 38, bro.
Speaker 4:He's going to hold you to it. You got each other. So to give you an idea, this is not just for older people, or even older than us, right? We had a 23-year-old girl who, her uncle, had been treated in his back. He was a mogul skier. Nothing else worked, not bone marrow, stem cells, not every other thing they do for back.
Speaker 1:He contemplated suicide.
Speaker 4:It worked for him and he goes. You know what? I've got enough money, I'm going to pay for her. My niece has celiac disease. It's not that it cured anything, but instead of even worrying about the celiac part, she had lived with migraines for over 10 years and it actually took away all her migraines. When I see these Botox commercials and everybody's putting Botox in their body, I'm just like shaking my head, because at this point we're getting into an area of you could use something that's healthy, not toxic Cause. Even though Botox beautiful for our wrinkles, it's not great for our body at all. It's a toxin, right Stem cells.
Speaker 2:I I don't know. I've seen some really bad botox jobs and I don't think it's great for your skin either in some circumstances like I would for sure rather have a wrinkle than what your face looks like yeah, yeah, and we do aesthetic too.
Speaker 4:Stem cells can actually go in the face and and take care of that, if and if you do want to instead of paralyzing nerves.
Speaker 1:How about we get the body to make collagen and elastin again for the first time in decades? You know, maybe that would be better. So I think rogan.
Speaker 3:Rogan said that it fixed. He had a like a partially torn rotator cuff and the only way to fix the rotator cuff is through surgery and I think he's like well, I'll just try some stem cells and I think his rotator cuff cuff grew back.
Speaker 1:Yeah yes, yeah, I mean, if it's, if it's a foot, it's probably not going to grow back Right, probably need some surgery there. But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's crazy one. They're actually working right now with stem cells that will actually regrow teeth that you've been missing, and they'd be exactly like the tooth that you've missed.
Speaker 4:And we're not there yet, but we're going to be there.
Speaker 1:It's just like the AI stuff, guys. It's crazy and it seems fictional. But here it comes, it's moving fast. Oh yeah, yeah, it's just moving so fast. It's nuts, you know, yeah. But that's where regenerative medicine is, guys, and honestly, I think that St George is going to become a hotbed for regenerative medicine under, because they get that it works, they see that it's not a threat and they're not so tethered to big pharma like other states.
Speaker 3:Well, and I think to your point too, like on a realist, not just like a specific, you know housing discussion. But part of that is kind of maybe like park city to an extent is people want to live here, it's great weather, it's got great views, and so part of that is like, you know, with regenerative medicine, right, you have a doctor or something with that's a high earner and they're like wait a minute, I can live in in. I don't have to live in you know whatever, ohio, ohio, under the bus, but I have been to Ohio in the winter and it's absolutely awful. I mean, there's, there's YouTube videos about, you know, rivers on fire in Ohio, which which is legitimate anyway. So I think to to that point you're, you're probably right because it's a great place to live, it's a great place to raise your family and have you guys yet talked to Zion Canyon hot Springs, the one that you guys have opening up?
Speaker 4:They open up in June or July. I just found them online just trying to connect with everything St George, so they're gonna actually possibly be at our event to push out their amazing hot springs. They have all this, so things like that. When we can bring in, we actually don't just wanna treat people in St George with stem cells. We wanna bring people from all over the world to St George to treat them with stem cells because they can go to that. They can go to Jeff for real estate, they can go to you, rob, for anything that you're doing besides this awesome podcast. So we just want to bring that attention and have people enjoy. Again, we want to keep it family friendly, because we all have families.
Speaker 1:But I wanted to invite you guys. Magnus Vera Magnuson is going to be treated, travis Ortmeier is going to be treated, and Tom Stoltman looks like he's going to be coming too. We invite you to be there when those guys are treated, when the guys are treated with stem cells yeah, so so I guess I'm going back to stem cells.
Speaker 2:I'd have so many questions how, how many treatments does it Once, twice, five times?
Speaker 4:That varies, just depends on.
Speaker 2:So to give you an idea, it's like the chiropractor You're like well, you got to come in 72 times over the next six months and it never ends. It never ends.
Speaker 4:So no, to answer your question, it's going to vary for what you have Like. So we have neuro patients, neuro disease patients and we have autoimmune. They will have to have more treatments when we're treating Parkinson's, ms, als, stroke victims. By the way, it works amazing in stroke victims. My mom died from that. I wish we'd had it at the time because she wouldn't have died in St George.
Speaker 4:She died in St George. But for autoimmune you're going to have multiple treatments. But the legacy program is the best way to go. That's when we take it from one of your family members and store that in a bank so that you can then pull from that.
Speaker 2:Where are they pulling it from your?
Speaker 4:stomach, so it's lipo. So when we're talking about adipose fat, it's like a chick gets to go into a clinic and she gets her stomach pumped Not pumped, sorry, she gets her fat taken out of her stomach right, and so they take that at least two tablespoons of of fat and then they send that off to the bank and then they just second to fifth generation those stem cells out and then create lots of vials.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's awesome.
Speaker 1:Super awesome.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing about the legacy program too. We were talking about the allograft, right. That means it comes from donors Like think about the heart donor or a kidney donor. Well, these are stem cell donors. They've been thoroughly screened for viruses, bacteria, fungus, anything dangerous. They're declared clean and that's that third party that does all that stuff, right. Well, oftentimes our patients will get one dose of that allograft and then they become part of our legacy program, where they have a daughter or a niece or their wife or even themselves donate two tablespoons of of adipose fat from liposuction and then they send that off to culture it.
Speaker 1:They throw out generation one and then they grow a whole bunch of other generations and they got eight weeks takes about eight weeks they got to grow those cells and then for 500 bucks a year, they'll store your cells at 75 degrees below zero. They they last for years. It costs like like only $500 a year to store them in this cryogenic bank. And then if your family has heart disease, stroke, a blown out knee, bad back and you're going to have several of those things as a family.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then it even helps with your, your immune system right More, more T cells, more macro figs to fight disease. Um, knee problems, shoulder problems, lower back problems, plantar fasciitis. You can get rid of those things and put them to bed and get on with your life, because we not only want to live longer, but we want to have a health span too. So you want to be healthy throughout those years.
Speaker 2:That's super interesting.
Speaker 1:Go ahead. Go ahead To clarify that, Rob?
Speaker 4:that $500 is just to hold the vials, it's not we're not gonna hold you to the cost.
Speaker 2:We're not gonna hold you to the cost.
Speaker 4:Exactly. They can contact your podcast and we can get them information through you if they have more questions about pricing. But, to answer your question, some people only need one treatment. Some people need annual treatments. For people that are dealing with neuro and autoimmune, they're gonna need to do multiples and that's where Dr Smith, who will be at the world strength games and can talk to them about it, that's where it's going to come in. On how severe is it Right? Cause all MS isn't the same MS and you're not in the exact same stages of it, so it varies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you and the public definitely want to come out to the world strength games and meet Dr Greg Smith. The guy is an. I mean as far as our having him as our medical director, it's like having Ken Griffey Jr on your church softball team.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got. You got a Hall of Famers are lined up for this event in May, man.
Speaker 4:It's actually we really do, right? You're part of one of our Hall of Famers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not there yet. I'm in the Little Leagues, I'm in there what are? You drinking there? What are you drinking there? You're right. What is that? Oh, this is Rob. I'm drinking an Alani. It's not good for me. I get it. I mean, it's zero sugar, I guess.
Speaker 4:Nice.
Speaker 2:But it's an Alani.
Speaker 4:We love energy, we love we. So Russ is well. Both of us are ADHD, but Russ has lived off caffeine so he didn't have to be Adderall and Ritalin.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we't go down that path. Oh dude.
Speaker 3:I got to get, I know. I feel like we could. We've already been talking for like an hour. We could probably keep going for another couple hours, but I'm a big caffeine fan.
Speaker 2:I got one last stem cell question. I'm sorry, I have one last one, no, no. You're super great you were talking about the fetal. There's a lot of commentary or you'll hear a lot of scare tactics around like oh, stem cells come from aborted fetuses.
Speaker 4:That's why it's centered up and that hasn't. That hasn't happened since the 90s.
Speaker 1:So yeah, in the US Nobody's doing that anymore. Nobody's doing it. You don't need to do that, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this, this is the celebrity secret. They get the aborted cream and stuff, but what I'm talking about is you were talking about the adult stem cells. What is the age? Because you had mentioned that you're not producing as many stem cells as you once did. What's that age range? Where you're like is it like 18, 20, 21?.
Speaker 4:To be very open on transparency 18 to 39 from a female is the best stem cell that you can harvest. But, honestly, you can harvest anyone's stem cells and use them.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 4:And we should have Dr. Actually, how about you come to the world stream games? I'm going to have a podcast room on the side.
Speaker 1:We can set up some stuff.
Speaker 4:You don't have to bring your stuff, or you can bring your stuff However you want to do your listeners can come to you Interview Dr Smith as well, and we can jump in on that.
Speaker 2:That'd be interesting.
Speaker 4:You guys answer a lot of my questions 18 to 39, for women are the best harvesters. But let's say you have nobody who can give you cells in your family that's a woman in 18 to 39. Anybody can be, because when you're talking about the stem cell, russ, explain to them how the stem cell from even someone who's older is still going to benefit.
Speaker 2:Because you grow them right.
Speaker 1:Yeah they're growing them and stem cells don't age like other things do. Yeah, they're growing. I mean stem cells don't age like other things do. They really don't. I mean ideally, if you're going to get stem cells from someone else, they need to come from women that are 18 to 39 years old, ideally.
Speaker 4:And it's mostly because you get more vials.
Speaker 1:And it just turns out women are better donors for the cells. But when it comes to a tolograph right, the stuff that comes from your family you could get it from yourself. But there's a big difference between the stem cells that have come from umbilical cords and placental material and afterbirth. They are made to last and bring along this baby for nine months. They're not built to last 10, 11, 12 months. They're built to last nine months. Where adipose derived stem cells can last your entire life, more or less. As long as the host is alive, they're immortal and, like we're saying before, they differentiate faster. More of them are alive. Yeah, they're more powerful cells. So it's the argument. The argument is for second place. Adipose derived stem cells are the the mike tyson of stem cells, the clear winners so I have, I have five kids, so my, my kids are.
Speaker 3:I've got three boys that are 15, 14, and 12, and then two girls that are 10 and 8. Should I just start harvesting as many stem cells from those kids as I can to keep my life? No, you should not do Well your wife, though, is still young.
Speaker 2:That was dark there for a second.
Speaker 4:You should harvest her stem cells or your sister's stem cells. Do you have any sisters?
Speaker 3:you definitely shouldn't take from your children do not take from your children okay yeah, that was a little bit of a facetious question. I know you were.
Speaker 2:You were watching that ruby frankie documentary. Oh my goodness, you're going down a dark path there.
Speaker 4:Ironically, our oldest is 20 and she's in Raleigh, north Carolina, on an LDS mission because we're in Utah, so obviously we're possibly LDS, right. And so when she gets home I'm like hey, your baby, you're giving us any fat in your stomach so that we all have our cells ready to go. But no, please wait until they're 18.
Speaker 2:Until they're old enough Until your kids are 18. Old enough, old enough consenting adults.
Speaker 3:Consenting.
Speaker 2:This is going to be a great event, guys. I'm excited about this. I'm really glad you guys came on the podcast. I'm pumped.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm pumped. I'm super super excited.
Speaker 2:I think it's so much more than just the strength games too, with the vendors. I think you talking to the guy who ran the Arnold strength games, uh of cause, I think a lot of people will think I'm going to go to the strength games just watch a bunch of meatheads throw weights around. It might not be interesting to everybody, right and so seeing that it's it's. It's a more dynamic event.
Speaker 4:It's not just throwing around weights but even though that is awesome Also, I'd like to push something that we haven't pushed. One of our favorite athletes that competes with us multiple times is a 73 year old grandma. A woman who's shorter than me and I'm pretty short is going to lift more than most 70 year old women lift.
Speaker 1:At this more than most of the dudes there. So she's coming from Australia, she's flying for 30 hours to get to St George Right, and then she can carry as much as a fridge on her back for 50 feet. She's in her 70s.
Speaker 3:The cool thing that I really like about what you guys are doing with like weight classes and stuff like that is when and not to talk down to some of the guys at the very top. But you start looking at ratios, right, and you see a guy that can, you know, that can bench press 650 pounds but he weighs three, 50, right, Versus the 73 year old lady that weighs, you know, 120 pounds, but she can, she can lift 500 pounds. That weight ratio is way higher.
Speaker 3:And so you're talking weights that are way less, but the percentages are way higher. To me that's super impressive, like you know. You see, um, you know, I mean I go to a commercial gym, um, but you know, sometimes you'll see these like really small girls, uh, females, but they're bench pressing like three times as much as their weight and in my head I'm like I got got your fat was if that weight ratio was me, I'd be bench pressing 800 pounds.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to me that's really impressive, and that's what's fun with this super yoke is you're going to have athletes that carry two, two and a half, three, three and a half and even sometimes four times their body weight. Yeah, so so when I do that 905-pound yoke, I weigh 230 pounds. Right, I'll be more than 1,100 pounds per step, and so my New Balance or Asics shoes will go as flat as a credit card. And if there's a pebble on the course in the Dixie Center that's not swept up and I step on it, it hurts, yeah.
Speaker 4:And also to your point, jeff. A lot of times spectators will come and watch this sport, including myself. I've supported Russ many times but I've started to lift and others start to lift because they realize, oh, I could do this, I could put some things, I could pick up a stone and walk around Snow Canyon. There's some really interesting components to just everyday lifting, like your deadlift, your deadllifts Amazing the fact that your back has that, that your body is going to be healthier healthier because you actually have muscle, helping your yeah, there's some real.
Speaker 3:there's some real evidence behind you know, maybe not all the time, all day, every day, lifting heavy weight, but there's some, there's some scientific evidence behind lifting heavy weight. That is is that's good for you.
Speaker 1:Right, oh yeah, the muscle mass and strength studies they're doing right now are saying that muscle mass is literally the longevity organ. Yeah, Right, and then you don't break femurs and you don't break hips in your sixties, seventies and eighties, and then you don't die of pneumonia in the hospital after you've broken that hip or femur.
Speaker 4:And we're not talking about huge muscles, we're not talking about looking, you know. I mean, do that if you love that, that's good for you. But just having any muscle right, Just having that muscle, really helps the body.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's so fascinating.
Speaker 4:And stem cells too, rob. Just so you know, any muscle and any walking actually makes the stem cells work better in your body.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we know. We know for sure that our patients that are active, they get stem cells do better than patients that don't get stem cells and they do better than patients that get stem cells that sit on their butt.
Speaker 2:Wow, yeah, it's. It's pretty fascinating. This, um, this is gonna be a great event. What else do we miss, guys? Do we miss anything?
Speaker 3:I mean, we could probably keep talking for another two hours if we wanted to.
Speaker 4:Maybe we'll come see you in April.
Speaker 3:We're going to head down to April.
Speaker 4:Some of your St George events. You guys have going on.
Speaker 1:Have your people come early. Have your people come early. There's going to be Magnuson and Stoltman and Ortmeyer jerseys there that people can buy and get them autographed with the silver or gold Sharpie. It's really, really cool. This hat was autographed by Travis Ortmeyer there, nice.
Speaker 3:That's cool. We'll put it in the, in the, you know, in the links and stuff. But what's the best way for folks to get ahold of you, either on social media or website or whatever?
Speaker 4:Yeah, the website's worldstrengthgames, you can fill out a little thing to contact us. Or uh, world strength games 2025 on Instagram is the second best.
Speaker 2:Cool. And then the stem cells. Uh, they, you guys provide it at um. I'm sorry, say it one more time.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's us med spa, us med spacoco. Yep, coco, or they can. They can just reach out to you guys and we'll make sure that you have a link to send them to and go from there.
Speaker 2:Sweet and then, uh, you're, we're going to give tickets away through the podcast.
Speaker 1:So if you're going, to give you guys for your podcast, 435 podcast. We're going to give you 100 free expo passes. Ok, and you say, jump how high? And your people have to jump.
Speaker 4:You need to follow tag, share and make sure that you you have people watch.
Speaker 2:Got it. So if you're listening guys definitely jump on there Like tag, share, follow and we'll get you some tickets. Russ Abbyby, thanks for coming on the show. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3:We're excited to see you guys today and earlier than that, I say we, we, uh, we do it again when you guys are down here, but we'll do it all in the studio and and face to face and just just in closing, just in closing, guys, guys, our mission this year is to break the uh, the 455 pound farmer's walk.
Speaker 1:That guy from Utah that I train His name is Miles Kinikini. He'll be representing Tonga. He'll be representing an entire country. Yeah, and we really would like to see the people of St George and the surrounding areas come out and support him. If he can carry 460 pounds per fist 920 pounds He'll be the greatest in world history.
Speaker 2:That'll be amazing. Well, let's pack the Dixie Center Coming in May. Thanks for coming on, guys. We hope you enjoyed this episode, everybody. We'll see you out there. Thanks for listening in. If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe. Make sure you're following us on all the social media websites. We love your support. We love the dialogue websites.
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