Welcome back everybody to another episode of Behind the Tool Belt. On my left side here I have the beautiful Becca Switzer with Sales Mastery. Um, we are in Orlando Roofing Process Conference. Thank you for hosting a beautiful conference. So far, so good in the Sunshine State of Orlando. I think it was like 80 degrees this morning when I walked across here, so I did not have any steps that I took over here packing this shit up and walking back over there tonight as a full workout. So don't hate me for not doing my workout this morning, but anyhow, God bless you all. Becca, how's it going?
Becca Switzer:It's going great. I'm super excited to be here. This is one of my favorite industry events.
Ty Backer:Mm, hmm, it is. It's been very cool. We met a lot of cool people, some new friends, some old friends. Uh, patrick Carrs here he was one of my favorite friends.
Ty Backer:We actually did a 60 Day Content Challenge with him. Nice, yes, so he was doing his little Patrick Carr Show. I don't even know what the topic was, but then he started to talk about like this hey, does anybody want to join a 60 Day Content Challenge, which was a private Facebook group. There was like 200 of us in it. I want to say 12 of us actually did it for 60 days in a row and you had. He came up with a video. I turned it on. He'd have a topic, so we'd have to talk about it for two minutes. That was it. So not live, just record it. So, like the first two weeks it was so horrible. Like I would go five minutes, I would do 30 seconds. I'm like, dude, how do you keep it within?
Ty Backer:like two minutes, like 120 seconds. I got better at it and it was actually good and I really feel like it has helped me do things like this, like just to get in front of a camera. Listen to myself, because I can't stand my voice out. I'm going to get out to Pat your car for the 60.
Becca Switzer:Day.
Ty Backer:Content Challenge. Yeah, which was like a year ago. Um Roofles here, roofers here, um Becca's here.
Becca Switzer:I mean the whole crew is here like Sumo quote. Yeah, Sumo quotes here, yeah. Css Contractor Supplement.
Ty Backer:Solutions, yeah, yeah. So, anyhow, typically when people come on, a lot of times we plug what they do, we, we get their backstory, we, we talk about all kinds of different things. But, Becca, I feel like a lot of people have a different backstory. Like, like, like, tell us how you became the woman that you are. Like, why do you do the things that you do today? Like, your experience is good and bad experience that has molded you into the woman that you are today Trauma yeah right, you know well.
Becca Switzer:So how deep do you want to go? I mean as deep as you want it to go Okay, so I was born in Newfoundland.
Ty Backer:Canada, oh okay.
Becca Switzer:I actually had a really personal relationship with my mother. She has borderline personality disorder and if you don't know anything about that it's one of the cluster B personality disorders, okay, so it's really directly linked to narcissism and just like craziness.
Becca Switzer:Um, so I grew up in a kind of a circus. My mom actually made my entire family like me my brother, my dad leave our country. So we've moved away from Canada and, uh, so I didn't have any contact with my mom. I had no family really, yeah, it was an interest of just a lot of uh. So borderlines have, um, it's like narcissism, yeah, but a lot of um, a lot of manipulation, a lot of they misdirected rage, so weird punishments all the time. And then my dad was a family physician, so he most the time wasn't there until late at night and he'd come home from work.
Becca Switzer:So I actually had to be like I remember being conscious enough to think in my head like this probably isn't normal. I don't think this, this is normal. So, uh, as an adult, I mean I I haven't spoken to my, my parents now and like nine or ten years or something like that, but it it kind of forced me to do a lot of like, gain a lot of self-awareness, because I had to recognize patterns that weren't normal and like also recognize how other people aren't like that you know, you have to really teach you how to be like. It was I honestly like a crash course as a young person into psychology because I had to prepare myself all the time for like what could happen next. What is she probably thinking like what could happen? So I think it actually benefited me greatly for, um, my sales career, because I had to learn about like what people are thinking what could happen next and I always have to be steps ahead of what is going on.
Ty Backer:But that really is kind of how I. It's kind of what I was digging for because, like certain episodes or certain things happen over the course of the years, at least for me, that has made me the person that I am today. Whether it be my threshold for pain is much higher than most people, which I feel, looking back now is is an unfair advantage that I might have over most entrepreneurs, fathers, brothers, aunts, uncles, whatever. Whatever it is, I feel like I'm higher than most people because of the, the trauma some self inflicted, some not self inflicted that I put myself through over the years is has really molded me into not Callister or or cold hearted, but maybe more empathetic for people you, you know so, so tell us some more about that.
Becca Switzer:So well, honestly, I think that that experience even though it was a long story that I had that helped me to grow as a person, was when I got divorced. So I uh long story made short. So I was 19 when I met my former husband. I had never even been in a relationship before. It's the first first I did. I got married when I was 21 and we were together for a total of eight and a half years and I actually was very unhappy in my marriage. He was eight years older than me. We grew part really fast. Uh, didn't have a lot of time. I was like six and a half years. I wanted to leave, but I felt like I didn't have, like it wasn't an option, Like divorce was not an option. So I there's a lot of guilt, I think, surrounding that and I just felt like, well, this is the choice I made, Like I'm stuck here, and so when I finally did make the move, my this was for literally a year, and this is not exaggeration.
Becca Switzer:When I would start to wake up in the morning, it was like you know, when your eyes are still closed but you're stirring awake, I would immediately panic. It was like an elephant just sitting on my chest right away and I couldn't. If I didn't have a dog at that time I probably would not have gotten out of bed. It was really, really difficult and I couldn't figure it out either. I was like torturing myself with. Do I feel this way because I made the wrong decision, or is it guilt so I had? If I didn't force myself to go through so much personal development at that time, I probably wouldn't have made it out Like it was a really dark time. But I learned through that so many skills that now I can speak about with authenticity. We were talking about earlier how cliches just kind of don't have any substance when people give them to you Like just smile.
Ty Backer:Yeah.
Becca Switzer:You know, from Patrick Carr I learned a video that he had posted one time. He's like next time you're super stressed about something, put on the cheesiest, force yourself to put on a big smile and think about that thing.
Becca Switzer:Yeah, and it's interesting when you do that, instantly your physiology is forced to change. So even if you're resisting like I'm going to get out of bed, it's like smile, you know doing things like that. Or when they say trust the process or there's more to be revealed, you know all those things. When people say them and you don't have an experience that you forced yourself to learn through how to get through, they kind of feel empty, like thanks a lot for the advice.
Ty Backer:Yeah.
Becca Switzer:But once you go through something truly like heartbreaking or traumatizing, it changes your capacity. If you allow it, if you take advantage of those opportunities of pain, I've had my best creative projects during that time. I feel that grief helps you access wisdom if you let it. So one of the things I was telling myself is it's okay to feel stressed, depressed down, heartbroken, disappointed, whatever. Just don't get stuck there.
Ty Backer:Yeah.
Becca Switzer:Even if you have to feel it every day even if it's every five minutes you have to cry and then you're like, okay, I'm going to smile, I'm going to go for a walk, I'm going to clean my room, I'm going to walk my dog or do something, and then maybe you have a breakdown five minutes later and it's like it's okay, I'm just not going to get stuck here again and you repeat that until it's five minutes. 10 minutes an hour, one day, yeah.
Ty Backer:It's almost and, to use another cliche, would like act as if.
Becca Switzer:Exactly, I talked about that, my my talk yesterday. Okay, yeah.
Ty Backer:Yeah, Act as if, put a smile on your face even though you're not happy, and this too shall pass, Like there's so many of them. Somebody said something to me one time and I was like this is the most stupidest thing I've ever heard. But I was stressed out and they're like well, you're, you're blessed for the stress, and I was like I'm not going to say exactly what I saw. I was like that is the stupidest thing that I have ever heard in my life. I'm blessed for this.
Becca Switzer:Thanks for nothing. You're like, are you kidding?
Ty Backer:me. My blood pressure is through the roof. I'm like I'm ready to kill people. Like why am I? Well, then I walked away and it was like a day later and and like I'm like I don't know why, I thought of it. I was like blessed for the stress and it's like, well, yeah, like like most of which this stress I'm experiencing are all good things that have been placed in my life in order to benefit me and others, and I allowed myself to get overwhelmed. But like, without that stress, I probably wouldn't have all of these things. Like it, it started to click with me and sometimes it takes a minute to to digest or register exactly what somebody said to me for it to make sense to me. And it's like now I use that all the time to for myself like, well, I'm blessed for this.
Becca Switzer:Yeah.
Ty Backer:And then another one we like to use is, like all poor Becca or tie stressed out and it's like the things.
Ty Backer:Yeah, I'm stressed out, we got to be out of here by nine o'clock tonight, but it's like In that, like we're our own worst critics at times, at least for me, I will beat myself up and we were talking about like that third-party person that's over here always telling me that I'm not good enough or you know, you don't deserve these good things, and it's like what's crazy is and I don't know if I'm psychotic or crazy or not but it's like, challenge accepted, I can't do this. Tell me I can't do this. It's like I'm having like these different conversations in my mind.
Becca Switzer:I think also that voice really highlights where our true insecurities are, because we talked about earlier. When that third voice comes into the picture and it's like, for example, yesterday I told you when I gave my speech I was like the whole time.
Becca Switzer:for some reason. Normally I'm so comfortable on stage or like delivering a message, but this one and maybe it was because I got, I took a different angle and it was a little bit more of a vulnerable story that I felt different, but it was like that, whatever that voice was the whole time, it's just like people they're wondering what the fuck you're doing up here, you know, and I was like, why am I thinking? That is so weird? But then we use the example of like. If I'm in the gym and that voice kicks in where it's like you don't need to do this, Like you should just quit now. You worked out hard yesterday, or whatever. I usually respond to that one with like just because I heard that voice, I'm going to do two more sets. Like I'm actually going to do more, I'm going to walk an extra mile or an extra 10 minutes or whatever. So it's interesting because I think that when it's something that we have already come to peace with or we know that we can overcome, the voice doesn't have as much power.
Becca Switzer:Like this one was really weird for me yesterday. I honestly didn't know what to do with it. I was like I've never experienced this like imposter syndrome to this degree before so it's interesting. It's something to look at.
Ty Backer:Yeah, okay. So earlier you talked about like doing things for yourself, like reading books and stuff like that. What book do you think I'm assuming you read a book or self educated yourself right On something to help make you feel better? What book do you think you read or podcast that you listened to that really started to open your eyes and search for that, the solution? I guess through the way that you were feeling.
Becca Switzer:So, honestly, I've read a lot of like it, mostly books on law of attraction and existentialism, so I really enjoyed. One of my favorite books is the game of life and how to play it by Florence Scovill-Shinn, but I've also read, like Louise Hay, mike Dooley, esther Hicks, esther and Jerry Hicks, so a lot of books about that. It's really about what I've learned is it's about framing. So that was my talk yesterday too, my breakout I actually talked about. So again, it's a cliche, right, life is 90% or it's 10%. What happens to you 90%? How you respond Until you realize, like, the depth of what that means. Like, look, life is just life, it's everything's going to happen. You can't change what happens, but how you frame it in your head is how you're going to be able to either appreciate or get through something or trust the process. There's actually a story. Maybe you've heard of it. Have you heard of the tale of the Taoist farmer? It's a parable.
Ty Backer:I don't know if I have. Okay, I'll tell it to you, it's my favorite.
Becca Switzer:I think of it all the time.
Becca Switzer:Okay, so there's this Taoist farmer and he lives in a small village and one day his horse at his farm like breaks out of the fence and runs off and the villagers are like, oh, how unfortunate, and he goes, maybe.
Becca Switzer:And a couple of days later the horse comes back and he brought five wild horses with them. So now the guy has six horses and the villagers are like how fortunate, how lucky, and he goes, maybe. Well, his son goes out and is trying to break these wild horses. One day, one of them, he kicks them and breaks his leg and the villagers are like that's horrible, and he goes, maybe. And later that week the government officials show up at the door to draft him for a war, but they can't draft him because he has a broken leg and the villagers are like, how fortunate, and he goes maybe. So it's just helped me realize that if we zoom in on one micro moment of our life, like when something bad is happening, we feel like that's our whole life at the moment and we're in a when our heart is broken. We're just like this is it for me?
Becca Switzer:You know, we get hyper focused on these singular moments. But the reality is this how many times have you been in love, broke up, got divorced even, and you're so heartbroken. But then you found the love of your life? Or maybe you were shopping for a house and you had your heart dead set on this one. You're like that's the one. And it gets sold and you're like, ah right, like that was that. And then, a month later, another house hits the market and you're like I can't but had I bought that other house and I missed out on this one, that would have been heartbreaking, right. So I used an example.
Becca Switzer:I actually zoomed in. I had a picture of, you know, the starry night by Vincent van Gogh. I zoomed in on this one little tree and if you look at it, you're like what is that? Is that an amoeba? Like, what is it? And I put it up on the screen without the big picture. I just put the tree up and I said if I told you, guys, I painted this, would you be impressed? And everyone like, like, looked around and they're like no. And I go do you even know what it is? And I'm like if I told you this was a tree I painted, would you be impressed and they're like no.
Becca Switzer:And then I turned it to the next slide and it was a whole the starry night. I was like, is this a masterpiece? Everyone's like, yeah, it's a famous masterpiece. And I zoomed in and I go that's the tree. But if you just zoom in on this one little piece, that's like the ups and downs that make up the entire masterpiece of your life. So you have to understand that the big picture is a beautiful overall experience that includes the pieces that we don't think are good or bad, because those things again, like the tail of the Taoist farmer, it's just a stepping stone to the next thing. So it's just, our entire life is like a Hansel and Gretel breadcrumb trail.
Ty Backer:It's like.
Becca Switzer:So this crumb sucked, Okay, but it's going to move to the next one, you know right.
Ty Backer:I love that. That is such a great story and it's like it always turns out to be like the best thing that has ever happened to us. Right, like we at the moment, we think it's the worst thing and we can magnify it. And it turns out it can. For me, I can make any situation as good as I want or as bad as I want, and a lot of it has to do with my behavior, and my behavior has gotten me in the past and it's like I end up with what I call an emotional hangover, making a what do they call it? An ant out of a, magnifying it like 10 times and blowing it so far out of proportion. And the next day I end up with an emotional hangover and it's like looking back, it's like, dude, why did I handle it so poorly? And then, all of a sudden, the check shows up in the mail or something.
Ty Backer:It's like, dude, like what a waste of energy. I showed my ass. Everybody thinks I'm an asshole. And it's like how many times am I going to put myself in that position before I learned that it always works out Maybe not the way that I wanted it to, but the way that it's supposed to?
Becca Switzer:I think what happens is we are. We try to rush getting out of the moment of uncertainty because it's painful. So we don't want to be uncomfortable in that patience of like, waiting to see, like something I always tell myself is there's always more to be revealed.
Ty Backer:Yes.
Becca Switzer:When a situation is happening, it's really easier for us again to zoom in on it and we're like this is the situation and we're just stuck here. But the reality is swirling in the ethers. What I always say behind the scenes the universe or God or whatever is there's going to be new characters introduced to the situation, new changes, new facts, new opportunities, new information you never know, and it might take a day, it might take a week, it might take a year, Right.
Ty Backer:Right.
Becca Switzer:So you have to really trust the process Another cliche, but you have to realize like the, there's constantly things happening. If I plant a seed in the ground right now, I wouldn't dig it up tomorrow to see if it grew. I would have to just trust that I know. If I put this seed in the ground, add water and let sunlight, eventually something's going to grow Give it time Right, so you have to just like life.
Becca Switzer:I can. How arrogant. How arrogant is it of us to believe that we're controlling every single thing in our lives? Right, that's crazy talk.
Ty Backer:I know it is.
Becca Switzer:Like look at all that, even if I get super OCD and I try to hyper control every single Iota of what's happening in my life, there's still going to be plane crashes and trucks. You know, that's an extreme example, but there's. I can't control what this guy over here, this man, could trip me, right? Are you going to trip me later? I don't know what's going to happen, right? He?
Ty Backer:looks like a trooper. He's probably not going to.
Becca Switzer:It looks like he's pretty comfortable in his stool.
Ty Backer:Yeah, sure.
Becca Switzer:We just never know what's going to happen.
Ty Backer:No, we don't, and we can't control the situation. I think the sooner that we can learn to to not get stressed over the small things, right. One of my shortcomings is is that I'm a stuffer. Yeah, so when I call it, the snowball effect, right, so the snowball starts up here. It's a real small snowball. By the time it gets to the bottom of the hill, breaking loose, it's just rolling me over. It's so huge and it rolls me over. Yeah, and the thing that I've had to learn to do over the years and I'm not perfect at it is is to not stuff things, and a lot of times it's because I don't want you to know that I really don't know what I'm talking about or what I'm doing.
Ty Backer:So I'm afraid to ask questions, right? So I'll stuff that. Somebody said or did something that that hurt my feelings. I stuff that, yeah, like I'm stuffing all of these things and all of a sudden I come home. My kids left their shoes on the floor. They're freak out, yeah, I trip over it and it's like I lose my mind and it's like I I tend to take it out on those closest to me and those that I love the most.
Becca Switzer:I I've note there's a thing that's called the transference or transference of anger. There's a little picture it's actually from like the fifties or something, but it shows a boss yelling at the employee, the employee coming home and yelling at the wife, the wife yelling at the kid and then the kid yelling at the dog, and that the exact same thing happens to me too. I think again it I some of this goes into just how fucked up we are in interpersonal relationships. To begin with, because, like I could tell you for me but it's I'm not special to it, but growing up in the household that I grew up in, there was no space for me to express my emotions, I wasn't even allowed to have them. So for me to like now in relationships with men, even in friendships, it's extremely painful, almost like scary, I shouldn't say painful. I'm terrified. To bring up how I'm feeling because I'm afraid of a blow up or being punished, Right.
Becca Switzer:And it's funny, I seem to we attract the same. Until we heal it, we attract the same type of situation. So we're also trained by other people who also have unhealed shit that they're. You know, if we bring up a concern or something that we're feeling, they might act really defensively because they're insecure. And now we have this, like you know, horrible kind of like a loop that we find ourselves in. Yeah, so it takes.
Ty Backer:A vicious cycle? Yeah, exactly, it really is. It really is, you know. So one of the things that I have found that have helped me is to actually have like a support system and people that I can speak to. That can relate to my craziness yes, because there's certain people you can't at least for me, I cannot share what actually goes all into my head with just anybody at a time.
Ty Backer:So I have a group of people and most of them, a lot of them, are actually here with me today and that's why I travel with these guys. These are my brothers. I know that they can see me at my worst, they can see me at my best, but yet tomorrow morning they'll still support me, right, right and pick me up and a lot of that. I need that because I can be my own worst critic, I can be down on myself, and they know it. They know when I'm off.
Ty Backer:Yeah, you know what I mean. Like I need to surround myself around and vice versa. He might have a moment and it's like. It's okay, dude, let's have a do over.
Becca Switzer:Yeah.
Ty Backer:Let's do over.
Becca Switzer:I think also so that reminded me of some relationships can be so healing, like when I went through my divorce, the person that I dated like immediately after was. This was the first time, actually, where I remember having to bring up a difficult emotion because I couldn't hide it.
Becca Switzer:I couldn't hide it. I was in such a bad place. So when he would come over, it was like I couldn't hide how down I was, like I was really depressed, I was having panic attacks, I was just bad. So I remember having to I think it was I had to ask for space because I'm like I don't know if I can like be doing this right now. Yeah, and it was a difficult feeling to bring up and the way that he responded to me was so compassionate and just calm and I remember thinking like I think I even said I was like we're not going to fight and he goes it doesn't have to be like that. We don't have to fight about it.
Becca Switzer:And I'm like oh my God. And just that one moment I realized like we can talk about things without Fighting or like getting angry. Yeah, and that changed it for me. I was like, oh my god, not everybody is gonna be, it's not always gonna be like that.
Becca Switzer:Yeah so I Think also when people are secure enough to hold space, which is another buzzword but if somebody can hold space for you when you are just being like this is how crazy I'm feeling right now. I'm like the world is over for me and they're just like there and they listen and you're like I'm still okay.
Ty Backer:Yeah, I still love a ball right, they're like yeah, do you still like me? Yeah?
Becca Switzer:Also nuts.
Ty Backer:Yeah, no doubt, and I think, well, because you're, you're driven and you're high performing and, again, I believe that your threshold for pain is much higher, greater than most people, because of the things that you've gone through in your life, and it's a shame that you weren't allowed to experience those emotions. Yeah, they took that away from you. Benny Fisher talked about that on the podcast before this one and it was I've never heard it put that way like it was taking, that it was taken away from me, like I wasn't allowed to act, that I wasn't allowed to show. Yeah, I wasn't allowed to cry right because boys don't cry, men don't cry.
Ty Backer:Yeah you know what I mean. I'm not allowed to cry. You know what I mean and I did what I was told and and, yeah, I was speak when spoken to. You know all of those things that you know. A lot of us went through that as as as children, that we thought was normal, right, and then we, like, as we get older, it's like then we actually start coming across the normal people that you know that don't need to argue, right, or can sympathize for us when we're going through things and being there to support us, right, right and Encourage us. Yeah, isn't that?
Ty Backer:it's so crazy how, you know, we've been able to call us ourselves, and it can be a good thing and it can be a bad thing right right, you know what I mean and we've learned to and I and I feel like you're the same way is to channel that energy, that negative energy, into positive energy. Right, and make like great things happen and and not Allow other people around us to experience those pains that we've gone through, like we do whatever we can do to try to impact people Around us as positively as we possibly can, right, you know like I want him living his best life. I want this isn't work right when I'm working right now it's creative.
Ty Backer:Yeah, now I'm gonna keep saying that everybody at the shops gonna be like I thought you guys said you were down there working. We are, but we're enjoying what we're doing and that's the environment. I really want to be around today, like. And then what's cool about is we can design that for ourselves today. We don't have to live in that shit anymore. We have, we have a choice today, right, and we don't have to accept unacceptable behavior. Yeah, and how cool is that?
Becca Switzer:it is and honestly, I think I mean I realized this there came a turning point for me. I was telling you about the experience with my divorce, right, and I've never experienced grief like that. I mean, it was like howling, like a baby crying in bed.
Ty Backer:You were actually allowed to do that. It was probably years of shit. Half of it probably had nothing to do with that circumstance.
Becca Switzer:Exactly, and it was interesting afterward because while I was in it, like trying to process it, it took me so long to get if it felt like to get to the other side, but eventually I had this epiphany one day and I think I might have eaten some mushrooms or something, but I had this epiphany. I was like holy crap. The fact that I'm so heartbroken, like the depth of grief that I am Experiencing and processing right now, is actually a beautiful reflection of the capacity of my heart to love. I was like holy crap, what a. And I actually felt gratitude, attitude for being able to feel that and that was a huge turning point for me because I'm like wow, the fact that I can feel this bad and I'm judging it right, it's just an emotion.
Ty Backer:Yeah.
Becca Switzer:Yeah, you have to. The opposite has to be true, like that's how guilty I was feeling, honestly, because I did love Hard and that's why I felt so, so down so you have to. The other thing is, I think you can't come up with anything of value unless there's been pain. All value comes from solving a pain problem, or whether you're selling a product or you are gaining personal awareness or like self-awareness, or healing a wound or an experience that you've had, like all value comes from solving pain.
Ty Backer:Yes, you know so for sure, through pain comes growth. Right and, unfortunately for me, 99% of the time it's self-inflicted pain. Yeah, and I'm not saying that there's not outside elements that doesn't free pain of passing of a loved one or things like that, but for me I have to. My experience teaches me.
Ty Backer:Yeah even though you told me not to do that a hundred times, I'm still gonna do it until I think it's not a good idea to do it. It's not a good idea until I think it's a good idea, unfortunately, and that's just the type of knucklehead that I am that I have to do, I have to try and I have to experience it, yeah, in order to believe it and experience that pain and then grow from that. And that's important, as I guess, as we get older and mature, it's like you know, we have to go through the things and a lot of that stuff too, like like you're sharing right now. You're able to help other women or people, right, you know, whether it be in our industry, or a loved one or a family member. You have the empathy, right, because you've experienced that pain and I'm sure you don't want to see anyone else going through that pain but you're able to share with them what you did to get through that stuff absolutely, and you know it's interesting.
Becca Switzer:So during those times I like I always feel like I can access Deep wisdom when I'm in those really painful spots, because if you don't do, you can either numb it out or you can just sit there with it. And I always sit I journal time, just like what's going on here. You know, I write things out. So I actually have another. It's very small, I don't really do that much with it. I will. I'll do more, but I have a channel that I made called nirvana by nature, and that's where I was.
Becca Switzer:As I was going through these things. I started making videos about like hey, this is what I'm learning about grief, or like this is what I'm learning about Just taking one step forward or getting through these things right, and it's so interesting. Like just yesterday I was in an uber with a group of people and one girl I'd never met her before and she turned around. She goes your videos on your other channel. She's like you don't understand how much it's helped me, wow. And she's like, seriously, like you need to make more of those. And I've had clients, too, that have gotten on and they're like You're nirvana by nature.
Becca Switzer:Stuff is like exactly what I need to hear. When I hear it, I'm like man, but it's. It's interesting. When I'm in a good place, it's like I Can't even conjure up the message for that, because everything's fine, you know. But when you're in pain, you're like okay, I got to figure out how to get through this. How can I give this meaning? And I think that's really what it comes down to. Pain is Only pain if it you don't attach meaning to it. But if you can see why you're going through something or see the value in it, now you actually have something to say and share.
Becca Switzer:Awesome and everybody goes through it. So it's like, man, if you can share a nugget of wisdom for somebody, that one moment of hope, it's like, hey, just so you know you are gonna get through this. Here's how I know, yeah, and you can share a parable or a personal story or and make a cliche, actually mean something to somebody in that moment.
Ty Backer:That's, that's the value vulnerability that you're exposing of yourself has impacted others. Mission completed and you thought it was just an outlet for you.
Becca Switzer:Yeah, probably exactly.
Ty Backer:Right, but really, at the end of the day, you were helping other people, right? How cool is that even just what?
Becca Switzer:like you said, even one person. Yes knowing how bad of a spot I was in during those times, to know that one person didn't think about like, not waking up tomorrow Because they got a glimmer of hope from a video. It's like, that's incredible.
Ty Backer:Yeah, now was that a YouTube channel.
Becca Switzer:It is a YouTube channel, and then I also have an Instagram.
Ty Backer:Okay, and it's called. Say one more time.
Becca Switzer:Nirvana by nature Nirvana by nature. Yes, and it actually has a double meaning, because the state of Nirvana in Buddhism is like not wanting anything, like your content, it's contentment, right, like the ultimate contentment. So it had two meanings. One, I by nature, means it's our, it's actually our nature, like pure consciousness, is just, is this, for lack of a better term. There's no good or bad. It's like here, we are just alive.
Ty Backer:You know.
Becca Switzer:And so reaching that state of Nirvana is like your actual birthright and it's your natural place. It's just that our mind. One of my favorite quotes is by William Shakespeare, and he says nothing is good or bad, only thinking makes it so. So it's getting back to that natural state. But then the other thing is another cliche, but nature teaches us everything we need to know about being alive. Seasons right, like sometimes we're in a season of life, we're just down and that's your winter.
Becca Switzer:Of course and then there's this, the season of renewal. Okay, there's a new thing happening, whether it's falling in love again or a new opportunity in your business, or a new bit of inspiration. Then you have summer, where things are good and it's grown and things are cranking, and then you have a season of fall to harvest. You know, before you go back into Either resting phase or whatever, right?
Becca Switzer:Yeah, so there's so much we're like even planting a seed, like we talked about earlier. There's so much happening beneath the surface. We just see dirt, but it's like there's roots growing and there's something sprouting here, and it takes weeks when we see something. So it's so nirvana by nature is really like nirvana learned through nature, the patience, trust and growth and seasons and and all those Lessons that we learned. So that's where the name came from.
Ty Backer:That's awesome. I love that. I love that. I love that. Well, becca, I think this is at a good juncture right now to to wrap, to wrap this thing up. I appreciate your patience because we kind of were missing each other here a little bit. You have been on my list, just so you know. You've been on my list to reach out to you for a minute With everything going on and, and, honestly, a little bit of fear. I'm a fear driven person.
Ty Backer:Yeah mostly healthy fear nowadays, which could be another topic that we could talk about as healthy fear hours. Yes, for hours, but I'm so super glad that Mike reached out to you. I really regret missing your Stage time yesterday. Did you say you had a breakout today?
Becca Switzer:It was yesterday.
Ty Backer:Yesterday shoot, yeah, yeah and we got to start scheduling these things like I miss Patrick bet Davis, like damn it. That's probably a really good one.
Becca Switzer:It was. It actually was really good. To be honest, I had never I didn't know who he was before. I talk about. My friend texted me and was like you're gonna be in an event with Patrick. He's like I love that guy, I know I was like, oh, I got to make sure that I see his talk. He was an amazing guy, he is powerful.
Ty Backer:I read his. I don't know how many books he has, but I read your next five moves by him. I I read it three times really it was so good. What sucked was is I couldn't find another book. Yeah so I read it again.
Becca Switzer:What and.
Ty Backer:I heard it so much more stuff this time around than I did the second time, yeah, but um, it was it. Dude, this has been such a pleasure. Thank you so much because we all here admire what you're doing for our industry with all of the other Things that you do besides the things that we talked about today. You do so much training and and and like helping our industry be a better place than it was and when you found it. And there's I feel like there's a huge group of us, whether it be the Tim Browns, the Benny Fishers, the Adam Sands I mean their, you, becca Schweitzer I feel like we're we, and I hope that I can be included in that.
Ty Backer:That like we're changing the industry, yeah, like, like making it a better place than it was when we found it and and getting rid of that stigma Right of the roof and contractors you know they don't call, they don't show up, they're just the dregs of society and and and things like that. But with people like you and in the marketing teams that are out there now, and and the tools and the apps and everything that we have today To make this a better place, yeah, you, you are one of the pioneers.
Becca Switzer:Oh, thank you, thank you.
Ty Backer:Thank you for your work, thank you for your compassion for our industry, and without people like you, we wouldn't have Platforms like this to do what we do because of really smart people like you.
Becca Switzer:So thank you, thank you, tire, yes, so, and thank you, really enjoyed this. Yes, yes, I'm glad you came on.
Ty Backer:Yes, our previous conversations, you guys should have recorded it, because they were bangers.
Becca Switzer:They really was. We covered some deep stuff. We did don't you love when you meet somebody and off the bat you just instantly are talking about something super deep. You're like yes this was nice.
Ty Backer:It was nice.
Becca Switzer:So where are you from?
Ty Backer:Right, yeah, yeah. When did you get in Boring uncomfortable stuff?
Becca Switzer:I was like can I just?
Ty Backer:yeah, I got it. My, I'll take this real yeah my mom's calling me.
Becca Switzer:No, she's never. She's never gonna call me Awesome.
Ty Backer:Well, thank you for coming on. We'll definitely reach back out to you To come back on and probably talk about what it is that you do do yeah that sounds.
Becca Switzer:You know what I?
Ty Backer:mean and and, because now we know kind of how you got here and what makes you driven and when you get your compassion and why you want to help so many people in our industry. So super cool, thank you. Thank you everybody for tuning in for another episode of behind the tool belt and we appreciate everybody and have a good one, thank you.
Becca Switzer:Bye.