Negativity often clings like velcro, but imagine if we could shake it off and embrace growth with the same ease that we share a laugh with friends. That's what Chris Markey from To the Tee Outfitters and I unpack as we traverse the landscape of personal development. Our conversation draws from the wells of both entrepreneurship and the soul, revealing how a shift from negative to positive thinking isn't just life-changing—it's vital. Chris, who doubles as a mentor and beacon of inspiration, shares his wisdom on combating the gravitational pull of negativity, while I open up about the moments that sparked my own journey towards self-improvement.
Building a business while balancing the beams of family life is no easy feat, and it's a tightrope walk Chris and I know all too well. We dive into the nitty-gritty of entrepreneurship, the strength found in supportive friendships, and the hidden power of vulnerability. These candid confessions underscore the significance of our daily morning texts—a ritual that has cemented our bond and bolstered our resilience. Through our stories, we aim to light a path for others juggling similar responsibilities, showing that while the entrepreneurial road is rugged, it's traversable with trusty companions by your side.
Our dialogue doesn't just stop at the doorsteps of business and personal trials. We cast our gaze towards the horizon where the personal intersects with the impactful, exploring the idea of a local leadership conference right here in York County. Envision an event teeming with insight from various leaders, and you've got a snapshot of our aspiration to contribute to our community's growth. As we wrap up with heartfelt thanks, remember to catch our next episode with Steven Spent, and embrace the positivity we've shared. Just like the stories we've woven today, your journey is yours to forge—so keep on crafting, and peace out.
Negativity often clings like velcro, but imagine if we could shake it off and embrace growth with the same ease that we share a laugh with friends. That's what Chris Markey from To the Tee Outfitters and I unpack as we traverse the landscape of personal development. Our conversation draws from the wells of both entrepreneurship and the soul, revealing how a shift from negative to positive thinking isn't just life-changing—it's vital. Chris, who doubles as a mentor and beacon of inspiration, shares his wisdom on combating the gravitational pull of negativity, while I open up about the moments that sparked my own journey towards self-improvement.
Building a business while balancing the beams of family life is no easy feat, and it's a tightrope walk Chris and I know all too well. We dive into the nitty-gritty of entrepreneurship, the strength found in supportive friendships, and the hidden power of vulnerability. These candid confessions underscore the significance of our daily morning texts—a ritual that has cemented our bond and bolstered our resilience. Through our stories, we aim to light a path for others juggling similar responsibilities, showing that while the entrepreneurial road is rugged, it's traversable with trusty companions by your side.
Our dialogue doesn't just stop at the doorsteps of business and personal trials. We cast our gaze towards the horizon where the personal intersects with the impactful, exploring the idea of a local leadership conference right here in York County. Envision an event teeming with insight from various leaders, and you've got a snapshot of our aspiration to contribute to our community's growth. As we wrap up with heartfelt thanks, remember to catch our next episode with Steven Spent, and embrace the positivity we've shared. Just like the stories we've woven today, your journey is yours to forge—so keep on crafting, and peace out.
Welcome back everybody to behind the tool belt, episode 217. Today we have another special guest, day 10. We will be back after our short intro from our sponsors.
Chris Markey:Welcome back everybody as we talk about peaches yeah peaches.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, there's that. What, what device is that? I can't remember. It's like a laser hair. I don't know, it's just the hottest thing in the world. It is. I tag anytime this ad pops up on my phone. I tag Chris in it and it's a laser hair removal Trying to tell me something.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, yeah for sure. But welcome back everybody. Chris and I always have a great time together. Chris is a mentor of mine, whether he wants to admit that or not. He's been my sounding board over the years. He's walked me off the ledge many times over the years and, most importantly, he's my friend. He's the owner entrepreneur of to the tee outfitters. He does all of our swag, he does our everything. He does our yard signs, our hats, our tee shirts, and has been very patient with me over the years and has always been just a great addition to anything that we've ever gotten into.
Ty Cobb Backer:You've been able to rip it out for super quick. I think the team has gotten out in front of a little bit better for you, but in any case, chris has always been there for me and great dude. So that's why he's back on. He got to share our 200th episode with us, him and David Bruno, and just so you know, that's how important you are to me in my life, because obviously the 200th episode was a pretty big milestone for us. It's over almost four years Just yeah, just over four years of doing this continuously, and we had a small conversation before this about another appointment that I should have probably been at today, but the show always goes on. I even wore your colors today. I saw that. I saw you walking across the parking lot.
Chris Markey:I didn't dress up, but I wore the colors. But, that was the kind words. Thank you, you never have to do that.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah Well, you've played a big part in this. You've watched us grow, you've supported us, you've done all this. You've always been there. I mean, I've screamed and hollered and made you probably feel like a piece of crap at times, and probably most recently yet, we had that discussion. But that's who you are. I called you up and I was like, hey, dude, I shouldn't have said those things. And you have not, and this goes to prove what type of individual you are, because you don't treat me any differently. Because I had a bad day, you allowed me to take it out on you and unfortunately, I think most of us don't even realize that we do that. You know, we take out our bad behaviors out on those that we love the most and unfortunately, it really has nothing to do with them.
Chris Markey:It has something to do with everything else that might be going on, but that you happen to just it's funny you talk about that because I just you know my son's obviously involved in the business and that happens, you know what I mean. And I walk back in the door and I know they get frustrated with me, but I haven't had a long period of time to really coach them up, so I always tell them. Sometimes it's more I'm frustrated with myself and I got mad, and then the next day I'm fine, but that's because I love them, I love you. We're all friends. I don't know if I could go to bed every night putting my head on the pillow about hate in somebody. I mean, I don't know if I could do that.
Ty Cobb Backer:Well, the thing that's a great topic too. Hate is such an energy suck and I think I don't think a lot of people realize is because of hatred and non forgiving, not being able to forgive somebody. I think that's more of an internal thing. There's something more deeper wrong with you. If you actually don't like or dislike an individual, chances are it's probably because you see something in them that you see in yourself is probably why you dislike them or envy, or whatever the case might be. But what an energy time depleter. Right. That just depletes you of all your energy, that energy that goes into hating somebody, because hate's a pretty powerful word.
Chris Markey:Well, I just think I don't know if it's the hate thing, I just putting time into that negativity. You know, I've tried. That's one of the things I've been working on. We talk about all the time the negativity and people think I'm negative and getting people to change that persona. I mean it's hard. Am I a complainer? Yep, I'll raise my hand. Yeah, do I do that? And you know, when you listen to somebody like Eric Brewer and he talks about it all the time, it's just like working out, changing that negativity. Going to work out every three days a week. It's so hard but changing it helps, but it's hard. Going to work out Like, oh, I'm going to go work out three days a week.
Ty Cobb Backer:That's what I mean. That helps.
Chris Markey:Yeah, and we don't go work three days a week and we can't change our ways, but we can, and I think that listening to things like this or reading books helps us get down that road.
Ty Cobb Backer:You know, what's funny about this topic is, I think what had helped me over the years to want to start changing and to be a more positive person is because I did see myself in somebody else. I was actually able to get a thousand foot view of me in somebody else and saw how they treated other people or how they responded to certain situations, and I thought to myself and I remember. I actually remember a moment and there's been many moments that I've acted poorly, but there's also been quite a few moments over the years too, where I've actually seen myself and other people and got to actually witness how my behavior is. And many years ago I was talking to a gentleman and I guess I said something that he didn't like and he threw this box of books at me and, you know, instead of few choice words, and he stormed out and I thought to myself man, that's me, that is me and that's how I handle situations, you know. And by being able to identify that and see myself, you know if I can hover over myself. And that was one of those moments where I was able to to rise above myself and actually see myself in that individual.
Ty Cobb Backer:And it's like, you know, I don't want to make other people, I don't want to act like that in front of other people. I don't want other people to feel the way that I felt after he threw that box of books at me. Now, there were some other things that transpired after that and then, of course, my behavior wasn't the greatest after that either. The cops were called and blah, blah, blah, but that was one of those learning moments both sides, you know, no matter what they did to me, okay. So this, this is a different, little different angle here too, but my behavior actually outweighed what they did to me in that moment. So, and we talk about we haven't talked about this for a while, but it's like you know, I can make any situation as good as I want or as bad as you want, or I can make it worse.
Chris Markey:Yeah, right, and that was one of those times where I made it worse yeah, and you know I did the thousand, your analogy of the thousand foot view of myself. Um, one of the things that I found in my life, and I've been married to her for almost 20 years. I call her my mirror because she always says to me do you like, look, look at yourself, look how this and you know I don't care, whatever, you know, screw them, and then you come back or you're right. You know what I mean. And the humbleness sometimes is what makes you mad more. Of course, right, the them, or them saying look at yourself, or them being more humble to just try to help you, yeah, makes you even more mad because you're the right, the right, the right, yeah, you know what I mean they're, they're absolutely right.
Chris Markey:And I think the best part of this is if you, you know, apologize, and all the time might not be the best, but if people see that you truly care and you try to change, or you know what I mean like, yeah, look, you know we've had a disagreement and I knew, letting you vent, you would come back later, I knew that, right. And letting some like you even said that to me. Yeah, I was like you know what. It got to a point in the conversation where I was just like I shut down, like I just stopped. And first of all, anybody knows Chris Markey, that's hard, right, and it taught me a lot like how to do that. And you know this situation with my son and his girlfriend you know, obviously who are a huge part of our business. Right, this situation of parenting through growing a business is very difficult, very difficult, and I've never done this before, so I'm learning as we go.
Chris Markey:And you try to talk to people and we try to. Every morning we text, or you know you have a situation and that's one of my favorite parts about you Little people didn't know. Every morning we text you yo, what's up, good morning, that's it. I think we're. You know they have that Snapchat where they snap each other consistently every day. I think we've texted each other every morning. I don't know if we broke a morning South Carolina, I think we missed one or maybe on a weekend or something Not very often Not very often, but it become part of my routine, like I expect.
Chris Markey:like I guess it was more of a, for me it was more of a. There's somebody that's out there fighting a battle like me. You know what I mean and granted, I got support. My wife's awesome, my kids are awesome, but there's somebody and you know we talk to other people that are in businesses and there's a lot of them in your county that I'm friends with that are awesome. But that has meant the world to me.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, me too. Me too, I almost feel some kind of way if you haven't done it by 10 am Sometimes.
Chris Markey:So you get mad? Yeah, I get mad. I often wonder why I got a text first.
Ty Cobb Backer:That's what that is Well, every now and then I will, and you're like damn it, you beat me, or I'm sorry, I forgot.
Ty Cobb Backer:And it's nothing profound, or you know that you send me. It's just like, hey, good morning. But it allows me to know, it gives me that moment. You know, before I get my day started, chris is thinking about me Right, because you know what we go through, because you've heard enough of my story, I've bounced enough things off of you and you can only imagine what my day is gonna be like, because I don't stop.
Chris Markey:And usually, if it gets to a point, ty like in, people don't understand, it'll be some mornings where it's not just yo or good morning, it's. Do you have two seconds to talk? Yes, because something happened or something's coming up that I just wanna run something by you and I don't feel like I think like we've grown. You've grown exponentially. Sometimes I don't feel that I'm worthy of some of these situations because it's more profound, like that ladder has gone pretty quickly for you and I don't feel like that. But then most of the time what I say you're like yep, you know that's yeah, I needed that. Or there's times I'll say something and I'm thinking I don't wanna put my little meaningless little things on you and you're like no, no this is, I've been there, yeah, and that matters.
Ty Cobb Backer:This is what's cool about having a relationship like this and the importance of mentorship. Okay, cause we mentor each other, we coach each other, we counsel each other at times. You know what I'm saying and it's super important to have that in an individual's life. It doesn't matter if you're a business owner, a father, you know to have another father to talk about, to talk to, that may have children or whatever the case might be. The connection is, chris, is that we're both entrepreneurs, we're both fathers, we're both, you know, high performers, and we suffer from the same feelings and emotions. The revenue doesn't matter, the all these other little things that we tell ourselves sometimes. Oh, I'm not gonna bounce that little thing off him, we've both gone through it.
Ty Cobb Backer:The feelings are the same, right, whether it's somebody's acting up at work, or our child at home is sick, or a loved one you know over, you know we, the feelings are the same and that's the important connection between us and those lies that we tell ourselves sometimes because I think our mind sabotages us, like now I can handle this, I don't need to talk to anybody about it, but it's so funny on when you do finally open up and share what I'm going through with another person, how that starts to diminish, or how relatable that is with the other person.
Ty Cobb Backer:Like, yeah, me and my mom went through the same thing where, yeah, I dealt with a disgruntled team member this, you know, this is how I handled it or whatever, it doesn't matter. The scenarios may not always be the same, but the feelings that we feel, the overwhelmingness, the anxiety, the anxiousness, the depression right, the situational depression that we put ourselves in, that's where our connection has grown, you know, and our friendship has grown. And knowing that this is the important piece to this is that knowing that you can trust anything.
Chris Markey:Yeah, yeah, that's the main cog. That's the main cog. Like you and I went out and had lunch the one day and we can sit there and talk about something and listen. There's a lot of other people that I feel I can be confident with that. But I just know that when we walked away from, when we walked away from that table and there was things on your mind that day, you were telling me Like you were, I could see it by the way. You were eating Like, your eating was, like choppy, you know what I mean. I was thinking, oh, that food doesn't have a chance, you know, but it was real choppy.
Chris Markey:And I, we, I could feel that there was something like when I come around you and because we're friends and just like I know when I like, I know when I, right away, I know when I let my wife down, immediately, like it's not even, which is quite often she's a saint, no, no, she's an angel, but it's quite often and I know, right away.
Chris Markey:Now, years ago I've been, I wouldn't have cared about it because you or her are people that are very important. My son and his girl, like my sons, and you know it matters to me, whereas in the past, I'd have taken that fight outside, Not just the books. I'd have taken that fight outside. And so you know these conversations, though we only feel it. It's a very short conversation, it really is very long in the life of me as a gray haired 56 year old man, meaning like it helps my life. It helps me extend that part of my life where I think if I'd internalized that more and more and didn't have a resource or a friend or somebody to turn to like that, I think I'd probably would have had a stroke or a heart attack.
Ty Cobb Backer:No doubt me too.
Chris Markey:You know, I mean there was days, ty, if you remember, like when I moved into the new building I was walking at five o'clock in the morning and you were answering your phone and I got to talk to you Like my stress was out the roof. And now that whole has changed because the hard work you put into it, right, it's all changed and the help support, the people that support you right. So that kind of has changed. Now our conversations are a little different. You know what I mean, for sure.
Chris Markey:They're a little different of the build, not as much but the maintain. And how do we get?
Ty Cobb Backer:better the maintenance, the maintenance Right. And I like how you said. Like you know, you look at things differently today, or you treat people differently today because you're more aware. Before it was just kind of like a selfish thing. This is my goal. I'm gonna get to it, no matter who's in my wake, right, and a lot of times those that are in our wake are our family, our friends, Totally 100%. You know what I mean. But today you're more present, you're more conscious and you're more aware of, you know, our behaviors, how they affect people. You know.
Chris Markey:And sometimes we do those behaviors with our family. We continue to do it, whereas with everybody else we've become more cognizant, and that's unfair to our family because they put it up with the longest 100% 100%, and it's hard to get away from that sometimes because they have been okay with it, whereas maybe you've lost some friends because of it. Yeah, absolutely.
Ty Cobb Backer:For sure, and you know this goes back to what you were saying earlier too. It's like you know, after a time of saying I'm sorry or being apologetic, like that, starts to fall in deaf ears, right Like you can only say I'm sorry.
Chris Markey:so many times I've seen this show before. Right, that's what they're thinking.
Ty Cobb Backer:I've seen this like this Stop saying you're sorry, okay, it's okay, but learn from it. If I did something wrong, I need to learn from that. What am I experiencing here? What's going on? Because if there's something wrong, there's something wrong with me. So 100% of the time, if there's something wrong, there's something wrong with me.
Chris Markey:And you know, what's crazy is is my wife talks to me about that all the time Because this is starting to get old. That's her favorite. This is like you know, like I don't want to get down this.
Ty Cobb Backer:And she knows that's a button to push with you.
Chris Markey:Oh, Matter of fact, it might be four or five buttons right.
Ty Cobb Backer:You know you stomp out Couple levers.
Chris Markey:You go out in the garage, you throw the hammer around, then you walk back in and go. You're right, I'm sorry.
Ty Cobb Backer:I'm a fool, but she knows you need to hear it and how you need to hear it.
Chris Markey:I will tell you this and maybe you don't have this situation, but I have it with my wife. My wife if you walked in here right now and she was on this show is the nicest like yours, nicest angel, whatever. But I will tell you, I tell everybody, because she'll be talking about work and I was like why don't you show them the side that I get, like they'll think differently of you, right? She's like no, I can't do that. I'm like or she'll start yelling at me about something and I'll be like stop, that is so like awesome, why don't you do that at work, do what you know? But I think that they that's just for us, like it was meant for us, like it was God given for them in our relationship, for us, like she was put there, right, and I got a touch on it.
Ty Cobb Backer:Like. They know how we need to receive that message. They know what buttons that'll stop us in our tracks. So we hear it. You know what I mean, and Vic and I have conversations. I know how I need to talk to him sometimes. He knows how he needs to talk to me sometimes. You know his love language I do. Well, that's what it's called.
Ty Cobb Backer:But, for knuckleheads and those of us that can put blinders on right and it's not in a negative way that we put blinders on. We just know that we have a short attention span, that we need to focus. We've got to get something done, but sometimes certain things need to stop us dead in our tracks, and sometimes that's on how things are said to us, especially by those that love us. You know, know what to say, when to say it to shut us up, or maybe they're not having such a good day either and they just want to hurt us. You know what I mean. But it all kind of like. But at the end of the day we love each other, you know, and because of that love that gives us the strength and the courage to keep pushing right, to keep pushing like Chris, don't give up yet. This building is the greatest thing that you've ever done. Big things are coming.
Chris Markey:You know her mom says something that goes along right along with it. She always said I may not like what you do, but I'll always love you. Yeah, right, so that's like profound, like the short little phrase. You know, it's pretty profound. You know one of the other things you talked about, what we do in our lives that changes the thought process of what we are. So when I write emails, the couple of things I do usually is when I answer an email. A lot of times I'd be like hey, hope this finds you well. I start with I read a great book and I can't find. I can't remember what it was or find it, but I read it and they always talked about starting your emails with a great phrase and ending with a great phrase. So when I email people, I'll be like hey, hope this finds you well. And then now I end and hey, thanks for in advance for helping me out.
Chris Markey:Yeah, it's great, you know what I'm saying. So there's some things I put in there and people might think that it's just part of your signature. It's not like I like I just had a text from a lady that's whose daughter wants to play lacrosse, and at the end I was just hey, listen. I hope this information helps and hope all's well with the family.
Ty Cobb Backer:I love that. I love that I intentionally don't put thank you in my signature.
Chris Markey:I put regards, but my wife says it sounds so freaking old.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, I don't. I don't do that because I want them to know thank you from me, or sincerely, based upon what I'm. You know, whatever the email is, you know the contents of that. You know I might put sincerely, I might put thank you, but I want them to know and I'll put a couple of exclamation points at the end of it so they know it's me actually typing thank you sincerely, thank you. Well, you know I won't. I won't put that in my signature.
Chris Markey:It changed and if I don't put thank you then you know I'm pissed when I when I started, let me tell you how the whole thing changes when you start putting hope this finds you well. At the beginning, like the whole tone of the, I could have just told them that hey, listen, I got to cut you off. You know what I mean. You haven't paid me yet. I could have just said that to him. Yeah, hey, listen, chris, I really understand, you know. Thanks for reaching out. Here's what I'm going to do to take care of this. You know what I mean? Yeah, thanks for your understanding. Like the email you get back.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah. And normally it's much more pleasant and more probably about solution, or they think they're stuck in the problem.
Chris Markey:Yeah, and you know, with people they have certain persona of certain people. So you know what I mean I'm the president or I'm the hammer or I'm the what. You know what I mean. They're thinking I'm going to get hammered from this. Yeah, and if you start and don't do that, you know you kill them with kindness. I hate that phrase. I just I never loved that phrase. Yeah, but it's true.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, my mom used to say that a lot. Oh, kill them with kindness.
Chris Markey:Yeah.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah yeah, she would use it for advice, right. I don't know if she actually did it herself, but she was definitely had a way with people to get them to do things that they didn't want to do.
Chris Markey:And the other one I heard the other day was kind means you care. I was like, wow, that's so, be a little more kind. It means you care, like they're defining you based on you being kind.
Ty Cobb Backer:You know, and this is the deal, man, we hear this a lot, especially in the books and the podcasts that we listen to. It's like we don't know what other people have gone through, you know where they came from or what they're going through at that moment, right. So, like, what's wrong with being kind? It's free. What's wrong with being sympathetic, what's wrong with trying to be understanding? And there's a good phrase out there. I just I just read it the other day Don't seek to be understood, but seek to understand.
Ty Cobb Backer:Understand, I was going to say and I know, I know I screwed that up, but but think about that. Like, instead of me sitting here arguing with you so you understand me, okay, why don't I take a step back and try to understand? You know I don't need you to, you know be, I don't need to be understood at this moment. But but take, take a step back, take a deep breath and try to understand where you're coming from.
Chris Markey:My wife always says I just need you to hear me.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah.
Chris Markey:I don't need you to answer me, but think about it.
Ty Cobb Backer:It's such a simple phrase, but think about how relevant that is, because there's a difference between listening you know and really hearing something you know like.
Chris Markey:listen to my words, I don't need you to fix it Like I'm a fixer, are you?
Ty Cobb Backer:a fixer.
Chris Markey:Yeah, oh, I'm a fixer, so my wife has had you know. And the other phrase I use with my wife is sometimes you got to hit me in the head with a two by four. Yeah, Because I I might have listened but I didn't hear. Yes, you know what I mean. You got to hit me in the head with a two by four and I'm like, oh, I'm going to say to me.
Ty Cobb Backer:this is the two by four. Yeah, Right.
Chris Markey:And I'll be like oh.
Ty Cobb Backer:We just had a conversation with somebody not that long ago, and it's like we I use the metaphor, the phrase of like you know, sometimes God jams on the brakes and makes your head go through the windshield. You know what I mean. Because in those moments, because the and again I'm going back into us knuckleheads, sitting in this room right now, our hearts, our heads are so hard and when we get stuck on something, it's like we can't see, and again we throw those blinders up, but we need smacked upside the head with a two by four, or our heads driven straight through the windshield, the glass, because that's where we're looking and that's. That was why I use that metaphor, because we're continuously outwardly looking, but sometimes that that tire needs to go flat in order for my head To hit the windshield. Yeah, and to wake me up a little bit and take a step back, take a deep breath and analyze.
Ty Cobb Backer:You know, or hear what I'm supposed to be listening to, right? You know what I mean, because a lot of times I'm like I, you know, I, I'm afraid that I misinterpret things, which can be a good thing, because I'll listen to a book and get something totally different out of it and run with it, even though and sometimes I know it means something else, but it just strikes a different idea, but that in a negative light. Like you may say something via text message, right, and I can take that and blow that on out of just proportion, because I I couldn't see your face, I didn't read it Wrong time.
Chris Markey:You got the text at the wrong time. Yeah, you know what I mean. You dropped the bomb and I tell my some of my sales rep Half read it. Yeah, half read.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah.
Chris Markey:I read this and then I read the third line and I didn't put it all together. Mm, hmm, I mean sales reps all the time pick up the. If you have a question, pick up the phone and call somebody 100%. Hey, listen, I misunderstood. Can you explain to me, you know? Or why? What does what does this mean?
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, I'm not sure if I understand. Yeah, and that's the thing I think people are afraid to let other people know. Can you know? I don't understand. I'm confused. Yep, you know, and being able to to to articulate that without coming off harsh Like I, what are you talking about? I don't understand. Well, if you can just simply state that I think I'm a little confused, I really don't understand. I know I'm guilty of not raising my hand saying can you explain that again, or can you explain that in a different way?
Chris Markey:What's the phrase you always use when you don't catch, or I'm not here or my mind isn't, um. What's the phrase you always use on me? Like I'm the frequent I forget what it is, but you always use it on me when you're not there, Like I'm not in this conversation right now, Like my frequency, or something. You always use that and that's my key to be like all right, let's band with.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, I don't have to band with for this right now.
Chris Markey:Chris, I don't have to band with, which means my mind is not here, right?
Ty Cobb Backer:now. Yeah, you know and I've gotten better on on on saying that, right, because I hate that as much as I hate to say that, because I try to be intentional with other people's time but there was a moment out here in the office one day and Amanda and Tam approached me about something and my mind there was no way I was going to be able to retain what she was trying to say to me. I was like can you give me an hour? Like my head someplace else, and she just kind of looked at me like okay, yeah, I get that, yeah, you know what I mean. Like I'll come back, but right, this second I got to get done, whatever it is that I'm stuck on.
Chris Markey:The band with thing. When you first said that to me, I didn't know whether I should fight with you. I didn't, they're like. I was like we are you in or band with. I've never had that dropped on me, like I didn't know how to react and I was like, yeah, yeah, I get that I get it, but I didn't know what to say Now I'll use it. Hey man, I'm just right now. I'm not at a point to be talking about anything. Yeah right, I'm not, you know.
Ty Cobb Backer:Like, hit me at seven, between seven and nine o'clock tomorrow morning, that's when I'm freshest. Right, hit me with that idea and that I think a lot of that has to do with self-awareness being me and how I tick when I'm the freshest, when I'm going to be the most tiredest. You know when should I schedule my meetings, when should I schedule my appointments, whether it's doctor's appointments. I know that after three o'clock is a good time for me to schedule my doctor's appointments, because that's brainless stuff, I know. I got to drive the well, span and take blood.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, you know what I mean. So it's like I've tried to. You know where do I perform the best? At what times a day? You know what I mean. I'm on a Tuesday. Every other Tuesday we have what's called the business meeting at seven 30 am. I know I'm the freshest on a Tuesday, Sometimes Monday. I'm still trying to clean some things up. I'm a little neurotic, you know, because it's Monday.
Chris Markey:I'm that something You've had eight Red Bulls.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, by six 30 am. Then I went to treadmill since 4.30. You know, the pre-workout hasn't wore off yet. Yeah.
Chris Markey:Fired up, walking into that meeting, right, and everybody's walking in like this, yeah, and they're walking in like this, right. You know I love like that is so funny because we're so much alike. Like in the morning, like I'm a morning person Me too, right? So we talk in the morning and I'll get up and make coffee and I'll go up and see my wife and she's like stay in the bathroom, and I just want to be like, oh man, what's going on today?
Ty Cobb Backer:The days I'm fired up Right and she'd be like yo, can you give me like a half hour To think about that for a minute? So how can you harness that time? Is that the time that maybe you should turn a book on listen to a podcast?
Chris Markey:Which I do.
Ty Cobb Backer:You know what I mean. And a lot of people miss those opportunities. Well, the dead time in the car, yeah Right.
Chris Markey:On the way to work or any time. Well, yeah, well, yeah, yeah, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, and depending on how long the ride is, you know. And what do I want to hear? Like who do I want to hear it? From the day, that's been my biggest definition of what do I want to hear today. Yeah, craig, I listen to Craig Groshel. I listen to I mean, I listen to a bunch of. I listen to books. One of my I want to. You know, I've even gone back and started listening to books. Yeah, you know what I mean. That I listened to in the past.
Ty Cobb Backer:You have to, you almost have to. It's not always 10. What?
Chris Markey:was the one we were talking about the one day and you told me you go back to that section five, fiftieth year. Was that? What's his enemies, patrick?
Ty Cobb Backer:Bay David. Yeah, Patrick Bay David.
Chris Markey:The year next five moves your next five moves, yeah, and you always go back to. You were like I always go back to chapter whatever, yeah, yeah.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, yeah, that book. I mean that's a yearly book. I've chosen yearly books that I read at least once a year, If not read them two, three times in a row. And it seems like every time I read those same books I get something different from it, whether I read over it, I skimmed it, or I'm just in a different season of my life where it means something to me or didn't. It wasn't relevant at that time.
Chris Markey:Wow, that's big. It's different season of your life which is so true.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah Right, it's so true, right.
Chris Markey:Like it is. That's spot on. I would have never, like I, read Sports Illustrated in the newspaper when I was younger, you know what I mean yeah. I mean Sports was in the newspaper that was the season of your life.
Ty Cobb Backer:That was it.
Chris Markey:I was reading the sports every day Everybody's like do you read? Yep, I read? What books? No, no, I read Sports Illustrated front to back, or I read. You know what I mean.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, this one too Right.
Chris Markey:All of them, not just one. All of them, yeah Right. Good for you. Rolling Stone yeah Right, rolling stone, yeah.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah.
Chris Markey:But I'm just saying, like the different types, this is the time of your life, like you know. You know I'm in a documentary and stuff and my wife and them go crazy because they want to watch some stupid shows on Netflix. Right, I'm going to watch something that you know is already past.
Ty Cobb Backer:Right, well, it's funny you say that because on my YouTube I don't know it's not my channel, but like you know, it picks up certain algorithms and stuff and I like to study past leaders, whether it's Winston Churchill, henry Ford, all of them and now if you turn my TV on in my office over there, youtube pops up and what it is? It's like you know, because I've watched these other leaders, you know past leaders and it seems like the 1900s man, like a lot of good leaders came out of like 1900, 1901, 1902, three. It's like there's just this you know there was a lot of good leaders later.
Chris Markey:Yeah, yeah, good work.
Ty Cobb Backer:Back in the day where it's like and I kind of nerd out on it and it's like everything that I can find by Henry Ford Like I watch it, listen to it, read it, you know as much as I can, because those guys didn't have like, yeah, maybe Dale Carnegie and those guys, the older people that wrote the book, which just blows my mind how smart and intelligent and profound they were. Because today, I mean, it's an information world that we're in. Today, I mean you can go anywhere and find anything that you want to research, study, whatever, whether it be Google, whether it be chat, gbt now, whether it be podcast books, audio paperback, whatever. They didn't have none of that. That was them.
Chris Markey:That's why the houses had libraries that were huge, right, yeah, they would bring books in, yeah.
Ty Cobb Backer:I almost feel like dude. I'm like I'm dumb compared to these people that you know. John Maxwell, dude. Where does this guy come up Now, if you know the history of John Maxwell, how his dad was a leader and a pastor and so was his mom. They actually sent him through Dale Carnegie's course back then. Do you know what I mean? So he had a jumpstart way, way, which is how I'm trying to bring Rocket up. Like I give him books to read and stuff like that, because how important if we want him to make history someday right, or whoever that might be your mentor and coaching, like we have the opportunity to point them in the right direction, you know. But getting back to what I was saying, like, but the 1900s man produced, like so many great leaders, man, the trailblazers man, that, and what's crazy about it is man. What was that 100 years ago? At least 100 years ago, right, 125, 24 years ago, dude, how relevant it is today. And I don't care if it's Zig Ziglar from sales, john Maxwell, who's still with us, thank God, but Patrick.
Chris Markey:Patrick Gleanness, nessie or whatever is like. There's a lot of people, like a lot of writers that, yes, they refer back to, yes all of that.
Chris Markey:They quote them, they, they read them, they. You know, I mean, you know, you brought up something there that was pretty crazy is you're like, hey, I'm giving my son, yes, a book, right. Or we are giving books, yeah. And what's really mind blowing is when your son and you start my son Garrison and I start talking to each other. He's like do you read this book? We're sitting there going over what books we read. That's like mind blowing. Because if anybody understand my son Garrison a little while ago, right, you knew he worked for it.
Chris Markey:There was a lot of challenges going on and now you sit and talk to him and you go, wow, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Ty Cobb Backer:A lot of that has to contribute to those that we surround ourselves with.
Chris Markey:Yes.
Ty Cobb Backer:Look at the group of people that he's with today. Yeah, you know what I mean. What's cool about that is that, first of all, must he did find his way right, because we all, you know not that he was a horrible kid or anything like that, but he was at that crossroad, right? You know what I mean. We're as a young adult. We all come to that crossroad. Fortunately, he chose to go the way that he's gone, but how quickly he's picked it up because of those that he's surrounded himself with.
Chris Markey:You know embarrassment. When you talk about that, I mean I'm not going to go down the road, but embarrassment makes you reevaluate things real quickly, no doubt, yeah.
Ty Cobb Backer:I carry what's embarrassing Well, because you feel like you couldn't do it for him.
Chris Markey:No embarrassment for him.
Ty Cobb Backer:Oh, embarrassment for him, right.
Chris Markey:Like I carry his picture around from back when, and I carry that around to because, to my mind, me to think better as a parent every day. And also, if he wants to chirp, I just put on go. Why are you being this kid right here? Yeah, you know what I mean, right, and it's crazy. Let's talk about kids, but it's crazy how kids are different. Yeah, you know, I have my son, mason. He's a pleaser, like he's awesome, just an awesome kid, a pleaser, you know what I mean. And he has the challenges that Garrison doesn't have. I mean, garrison went out and walked up to a house and was feeling himself doing a cold call with a house on the knock on the door. I wouldn't even do that, right? Yeah, mason wouldn't do that, but he has his own. We all have our own characteristics but, like, mason doesn't read all that much but he's in the history and documentaries, so he's going to listen to this podcast and go. You know what? Tom is right, I was on YouTube.
Ty Cobb Backer:Oh yeah.
Chris Markey:You know what I mean. Where's Garrison's going to talk to me about the books? You know what I mean. So it's kind of how you find your way not only with your kids, but also find your way to help them get better by teaching them about.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah.
Chris Markey:You know, some get it by books, some get it where. You're like, hey, I'm interested in this, and all of a sudden they become interested in it Absolutely, and that makes them a better person, a better leader 100%. Yeah.
Ty Cobb Backer:You know, and I love that, I love this topic, you know, and it goes back into the beginning of this topic is is is mentor. Yeah, you know, if we mentor our kids, we coach our kids, we raise our kids, oh, we try to why would we treat anybody any differently, right we?
Chris Markey:we, we.
Ty Cobb Backer:But we have flaws though, too, cuz when we try to mentor a member, you say you get mad and listen, I guess why we laugh, because or maybe I laugh at this Then I've told many people where I screwed my first kid up. By the time when the second one came around, we did a little bit better, but by the third one we nailed this one. But that's not true. It's not true now. I there had definitely been some things that I learned over the years, yeah, right, and, and my oldest had definitely walked in my shoes like he he, you know, took the path that I, that I had chose, and I saw a lot of myself in him.
Ty Cobb Backer:And again, going back to what we said, I think that's what pissed me off even more, right about it, when I would get so frustrated with him. Right, but he found, he has found his way, he's doing great today. But this is thing like we all have to go through what we go through to get where we're at today, to know what we know Through the experiences, the trials, the tribulations, the ups, the downs, the ebbs, the flows and I want to spew that out now as I'm older.
Chris Markey:Yeah, right now, as I'm more wiser. Whatever words you want to use, right, you know, I mean I want, I want to spew that out seasoned, more, seasoned, right, like a steak, you know, whatever, yeah, but I want to spew that out more to my kids and sometimes they also have to learn that on there.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, you know what I mean. Like 100%, you have to. It's never a good idea until we think it's a good, and same thing for them.
Chris Markey:Yeah, well, you know why did you do that? You know might not be the best way to present it. Yeah, I'm terrible. Listen. Every day I struggle, we do, or me to every day. Why did you be?
Ty Cobb Backer:aware of it. There's half the battle. Yeah, you admitting that right this second, you just saying that right now is half the battle.
Chris Markey:I'm in it.
Ty Cobb Backer:People are so ignorant and oblivious that they don't know that they say car, will there really do? They don't give a shit, right? And that's where the ignorance comes into play. A little bit maybe, but but knowing that, like you know, right away, you see it over your wife's face as soon as you say something stupid.
Chris Markey:Well, the other thing, too, is when your children, when your son, like Mason, has said, he says Something to me that really breaks me down and makes me really step back and think and I always be. You know, dad, you you've never done me wrong. Right, like everything that you've ever said to me worked out. You helped me get through recruiting for lacrosse. You know what I mean. We picked the right college based on you helping me to walk down this line. You never did me wrong.
Chris Markey:And then when you're working in business with him and you have a disagreement and you're embarrassed about it, you know what I mean. Yeah, but In my mind I'm going I've never did him wrong and I feel I did him wrong. Now you know what I mean, but really it's a learning for both of us. Of course he doesn't understand that. He just mad at me. Yeah, but it's a learning for both of us. I just think, like, how do we get on these topics? Like we just start rolling? Yeah, like you know, there's questions you wrote down. You want to ask me them now. Are we good?
Ty Cobb Backer:I only put two questions in there and it was something that I heard Somewhere else, but I don't even know where they're. Oh, and it really, it doesn't really have anything to do with with the topics. Yeah, it does entrepreneurship and, and you know, I guess, if I, if we were gonna, if I'm gonna ask you the question, one of the questions would be like so what's the end goal? Yeah, you know it's kind of what's the end goal here?
Chris Markey:uh, well, just um Two weeks ago, the end goal was I'm just selling it all and I'm moving this week. It's like, all right, it's gonna be yours, let's walk you through this, I'm gonna get out a certain period of time, um, so it changes every day. I don't know the end goal. You know, todd, we've never earned a business yeah, this big before, have we? It's not like you know. I'm not like Elon muskup. Has one sells it. That's another one sells it. I can't even imagine.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, doing that, yeah, or owning like. I think tony robbins owns like 150 businesses.
Chris Markey:Shaq looks skinny on nil, right, right, how many businesses he owns, like, and I know he doesn't go to all this stuff or get involved in any of it, right, but what's the end goal? Don't know. Yeah, I don't know. When I get there, yeah, then I'll tell you and you can have me back on the show for number 775,000.
Ty Cobb Backer:Well, vic and I, you know, we had a discussion the other day. I was like, what are we doing here? You know, what are we doing here, like, like and on many levels. You know. What are we doing with the podcast? What are we doing with tc backer? What can we do with the podcast that affects tc backer? Like, what, like, because our goals and and the vision changes over time, because, whether we met that goal or not and we had to deviate or pivot, pivot a little bit Sometimes it's hard to remember why we started out doing this to begin with.
Chris Markey:Dude, you've come a long way, and I mean equipment helps out too, but you've come a long way with this right now to look back. So what's our next step?
Ty Cobb Backer:I don't yeah, you know what I mean Is that the way with business, though, yeah 100%.
Ty Cobb Backer:So that that's the thing. Maybe there is no end in sight, but I think some people get so, so, so Devolved in, like you know, this is the, the end date, this is the date. This is the time. You know, yes, I have, I have goals, I have a vision. I have, I have things. You know ideas, you know, you know what I mean and and you know and I guess that's what I was talking about before we went on here it was like I was beating myself up at the end of the year because I didn't have this big state of the union Speech to give to everybody, like this is the goal and this is we're doing this and revenue that and you're going to be promoted here and Raises for everybody the. You know what I mean.
Ty Cobb Backer:Well, like I said, how many times have we pivoted, change added throughout the course of the year? So why did january 2nd, that monday? Why? Why was I so hemmed up on it? But then, looking back, it was, like all of most of those things, we were so far out in front of that and we knew that and, from our experience, whether it was marketing, we're going to change some things, add some things to marketing. We knew we needed to do that long before january 2nd if we wanted it to come to fruition by april 15th this year, 2024. Do you know what I mean?
Ty Cobb Backer:So here I was beating myself up over not having like this big, big plan, and you know what? Nothing changed. Nobody came to me. It was like so what's the plan for 2024? Tie, or I'm leaving. It was important to you, it was, it was important and it still is to me, right, but here we are ending, you know, the first quarter. So what am I going to do? To get together and I have some great ideas to get together with the team and, and Maybe, maybe not all at once, but now we've got four locations.
Chris Markey:Did you ever read the book 12? 12.12 week, the 12 week year no, no, I heard of it.
Ty Cobb Backer:I've, and I know a couple people that have read it. It's it's.
Chris Markey:It's pretty unique. Break it instead of so you have a. You have a new year every 12 weeks.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, right, exactly. So why is it, you know, with the resolutions and all this january 1st, such a big freaking deal for everybody and it and it's like every day I get to wake up as a new day yeah, you know who gives a shit. And and again, it's more about removing stuff and not adding more goals to it. You know what I mean. It's about removing the negativity, the, the energy, the time steals, the, the, the, the things that distract us, the distractions. That's what our goal is this year. What are we removing that has been distracting us, you know? And going back to the conversation that I have with Vic I think it was last week, before the podcast we were talking about, like you know, we've gotten so distracted with all this stuff and it's so overwhelming and it's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I can't see the force of the trees right now because we planted too many goddamn trees. Right, right, he, you know what I mean. We've planted so many trees and it's like you know it, break that chainsaw out, brother.
Chris Markey:Yeah, let's calm down.
Ty Cobb Backer:Let's drop a couple right, create some timber here with what we got right right and fire this bitch back up.
Chris Markey:You know, I I always said, and I think I said to you, matter of fact, I mentioned to the Vic earlier it would be awesome because you guys have built this podcast, but it would be awesome if there was an ability to have Use what you know or put it into the community where there's more podcasts related to the kids, whether it be a trade show for kids, whether it be a sports show for kids, that they come on and do the podcast and talk about the sports and have them run it or whatever. You know, I just you've come so far. You have such nice equipment. Remember when I told you when we had that 200th show and you had this set up and I was like, dude, you, you should be you, this should be used all the time like it should be, and this is a A temporary thing, until we're remodeling Down at at the and that was a nice place too.
Chris Markey:I mean, that's a nice place even and, I think, our attention span.
Ty Cobb Backer:We get bored and and that's what's helped this thing grow Right, you know we get bored and I think I even said I'm like I'm bored.
Chris Markey:Yeah.
Ty Cobb Backer:What, what, what are we gonna do what?
Chris Markey:happens in the business. Yeah, so, my, you know. My wife asked me you know, why do you always? Why is you know she likes to go home, sit down, eat your meal, blah, blah, blah. To me I'm like 7000 miles an hour. I thought new machine, honey. Yeah, I was up at 3 30 this morning. Look at that stuff, it's all go, go, go, go, go, go. And now that we've got the new, the building up and running, you know we're feeding the monster. You know what I mean? It's taking care of itself and people know their roles and how we're doing.
Ty Cobb Backer:I'm not bored.
Chris Markey:Yeah, you know, yeah, so, but I get you, I totally feel like, yeah, like if my mind stops and I stop.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, I really feel that way, no doubt, yeah, for sure, and and that's just who we are, and I think that's why we roll. I know that's why we've always hit it off Well, because I think we compliment each other Well. Um, usually, when I'm who you're kind of even killing, can bring me back in, or vice versa.
Chris Markey:It has been that way, has it?
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, hey, did you read the energy bus? Did you read it Four times the moment you told me about it?
Chris Markey:Yeah, and the other one I gave you was a no complaining rule. I didn't read that one. Oh yeah, that's that same off.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, john Gordon, yeah, okay.
Chris Markey:Yeah that, that energy bus is awesome.
Ty Cobb Backer:I know it is and everybody's. I made my signature CEO Energy officer. I wrote it out so I have to see that every day, yes, 1500 times a day, and it pops, for whatever reason it's. The thing that pops up in my email is CEO, chief energy officer to remind myself that I need to bring the heat. Did the?
Chris Markey:bus driver. Remind you of your wife at all when she looks at you and says Because every time that guy got on the bus, yeah, he would be complaining about something and she would change his In a heartbeat. Joy, right, you know what I mean? Yeah, to the point. Was he stopped driving to her right? Yeah, I mean, that's why he was on the bus to begin with, he's not driving, because he like being on the bus so much. Of course I'd recommend that's and I booked to anybody.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, it was good. It's a short read. That's what's great about it and Patrick. But David's book which one? The enemies?
Chris Markey:that um choose your enemies wise. Choose your enemies wisely. That's a good one. That's another good one. Yeah, that's really good one. Yeah, I know.
Ty Cobb Backer:I don't know if a lot it's long, but it but it's a good one. There's a lot of, there's many books within the book.
Chris Markey:I read it in sections, chapters yeah.
Ty Cobb Backer:You know what I mean, because there's, there's, so, there's so much good stuff there and really I guess it's almost like he was in different seasons of his life as he was writing it. Does that make sense? Yeah, like he could. He could have wrote four books, three books, four at five, right, probably within that book, because he covers so many topics.
Chris Markey:It felt like he had left and came back to the topic after something had like or inside that topic or inside that chapter. He did feel like it was kind of but I mean that's, but he covers so much stuff, so much.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, same, both. Same with both of his books. He covered so much Um, and I feel I felt like he wanted to cover everything. He wanted to fill you up with everything that he had, that he did, he experienced, and both books, um and I got, I got a lot out of both of them, both of them.
Chris Markey:What's your newest like? Like Intrigue meant of books or people that are speakers. What have you found one lately?
Ty Cobb Backer:um, you know, I that like are you talking about? Like that spark, where like?
Chris Markey:like when I, when I heard, discover Something new or hear something new when I heard Craig Groshals yeah, the one I've shared with you, the pastor.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, I actually got to see him. By the way, oh, my wife does all him at a conference.
Chris Markey:Wow years ago. Wow.
Ty Cobb Backer:He. I just didn't put the two and two together when his leadership podcast, though he's a pastor and he doesn't talk about anything every day, like or as much as I can.
Chris Markey:The hardest part for my wife. When she's this to it, he's his monitor. Like he doesn't really like everything is just right there, but that's what attracts him, like that's what yeah helps me like I have to concentrate. Everything is so profound and applies to everything that I'm doing in my life every day every every time he comes out with, like I have eight of these and the five of these, and so I'm like how many seven, fives and sixes can you?
Ty Cobb Backer:have. But I'm saying where do they come up with this stuff at?
Chris Markey:Right, well, that's what I'm saying, because I've like how many lists you're gonna have, and then I listen to go Whoa, oh, yeah.
Ty Cobb Backer:I know yep.
Chris Markey:Yeah, let me write that one down.
Ty Cobb Backer:And then I listen to it again much because. Then I start thinking less of myself, because why don't I, how can I cannot come up with this Shit, you know how many lists can I write?
Chris Markey:Yeah, it's hard to start to rate one right, you know. It's crazy, but that's, that's like the profound, like when I heard him and then I started sharing it with other people. You know what I mean, oh yeah that, that Really, um, yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, I haven't felt like that, sparked though I I got a fine, I don't know. So what I what I tried to stop doing is is is adding new books to my collection, because I feel like I need to go back through and reread a bunch of books, and I might add four books new to this year. Um, and then choose your enemies wisely was definitely one of those new books that that I've added into On ones that I that that I'm reading this year. But I think I'm going to go back and and read, reread a lot, and I got a lot, you know, I mean, so I don't really want to add more to it yet Until I feel like I got what I need, what I was supposed to get out of the first.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah one of those I'm going back to read.
Chris Markey:is Gapper game? Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one, like I've had that for years. Yeah, I read it, then I read it again.
Ty Cobb Backer:I'm probably gonna go back to it again Never split the difference, never split the difference.
Chris Markey:Yeah, that's that. That one was crazy. Yeah, like so, but I you know a lot of people read the same books. You just never people now where everybody starts hey, did you read that book? Yeah, I like chapter seven you know what I mean. Yeah, and maybe that's because we're different places in our life now.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, exactly.
Chris Markey:You know what I mean.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, for sure, you know for sure. Yeah, cool. Where are we at here, Vic we?
Chris Markey:54 minutes. Pick your hair. Looks nice today, yeah it does standing up.
Ty Cobb Backer:I like it when he's.
Chris Markey:I have to. I have to tell you, though, that, um, all the people that you have on the show and I don't know I've never met I met maybe one or two of them, but all the people you have on the show. It's very interesting to listen to other, different points of view, absolutely various thing, and I have to tell you you have come a long way. Thank you, like, uh, do you really know how to guide a show and pick stuff out and go from there? They call it the uh. Um, what do you mean by that? Well, like you know how to pick that. Hey, I was. You know being loyal. Hey, can you define loyal for me? And then you let that person go on for a while? That is, that is such an art. Yeah, you know what I mean. That means you're listening.
Ty Cobb Backer:Mm-hmm.
Chris Markey:You're doing it for the show's purpose. But he said something that was profound, so now you wanted to expound upon it.
Ty Cobb Backer:Well, do you, do you want to know what happened? Why that started to happen was was I don't know who said it, and I'm sure a couple few people have have said it over the years. You know, none of this has to do with us, whether for the, for the viewers, the listeners or the guest. This is about you and this is about them. This isn't about how cool I am because we do a podcast, right it. When I finally let that mindset sink in right and apply that it had gotten a lot easier, yeah, to do this, to even sit in front of a camera and talk. You know, because this isn't easy. This has been stepping outside my comfort zone for the past four years the hardest thing was when it became not about me is when that started to happen.
Chris Markey:The hardest thing I shouldn't say the hardest thing to watch, the hardest, the thing that mattered. Or I saw where you you could tell you were challenges when somebody Wouldn't talk as much, like you had to drag the information out of them. Yeah, and I don't know if he was camera shy or they just didn't know what to say. You know I always tell everybody works for me, have your 30 second. You know, yeah, elevator speech ready at all times, like come out firing.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, well, you know. You know as well as I do. This isn't scripted. We didn't talk about what we were going to talk about and we didn't talk about what we said we were going to talk about exactly.
Ty Cobb Backer:You know, I mean, and that's what is so authentic, I think, and hopefully, and I think something it can go either way. I think that stresses people out, like what are we talking about? But then the other half the people are like it does they're not stressed because it's like we're just having a conversation, because when they ask, we'll always talk about we're just going to have a conversation.
Chris Markey:You know I want to propose something to you. Yeah, I was approached by a friend of mine who's a very successful coach in york county and he's big on the leadership thing. I think we should have a leadership york conference where maybe not that's the leadership york has its own thing, but have a where we have a conference of people, pay to come listen to leaders that are from our own community. I love that idea. You know what I mean, in different aspects and different, whether it be sports coaching. You know you have a ron miller or a matt wilson matt wilson one six eric brewer.
Chris Markey:Oh, eric brewer put on a show himself for three hours. He's Profound to listen to him when, like it's like, I could listen to him talk and Well, you can, definitely.
Ty Cobb Backer:You know he's put in the work to study leadership. Yeah, even these coaches, yeah.
Chris Markey:Now I was saying matt wilson won six state titles. I mean, you go to one of his practices like. It is like he's running a business. This is like we're here to get things done.
Ty Cobb Backer:Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
Chris Markey:So listen and why did you do it and how did you, how did you implement it? Because what you're doing sports and I told you a long time ago it's relative to what? To life Absolutely right. So how does he do it? How does he run? That that's going to be relative to my business. So I'm really, I really would like to do where we get together with maybe, the york county economic alliance or whatever, get them involved and we run. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, maybe we have different portions of it. You know Sports, we have business, we have life right and have people come in from the community.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, professional and personal growth.
Chris Markey:Yeah, and then have somebody that mcs it they asked the question.
Chris Markey:Maybe, maybe somebody like you, mc, I listen when we talk a little bit and we can film it and we can have a podcast. I'm all down for it. I really think it's. I thought it was an awesome idea and, to be honest with you, I think our community has been screaming about it because you and I have had the conversation and you know I'm fortunate enough to know a lot of people are very successful right, the tony camp, easy, ceo of glad felter, like you can go on and on about the people that I've gotten the chance to meet by Going to some of these gallows and stuff. Man, I could stand and talk to them for hours. Oh yeah, I mean, they could talk to me about how they put their shoe on in the morning and I'm like you're paying attention. That's that. That was awesome like honey. Did you hear him? He put his shoe on this morning, right, it was Profound. He put left one on first, right right but that's I feel.
Chris Markey:So our calling, yeah, is to do more of this, maybe not every year, yeah, you just do it once. Make it big and and we try to cover the cost that it goes to a.
Ty Cobb Backer:Absolutely different. You know what I mean. What I like about that is and Vic and I have talked about this is that you know, we we always are Sometimes our foresight's so far out there and it's like, like you said, your county Could use something like this. What about our community? Right, I'm traveling to Dallas, orlando, and we're making an impact all over the country at least I hope, I think we are. What about did we lose sight, you know, of here, our community, and the impact that we think that we're having? You know we're missing a great opportunity of having an impact that way for business owners or c-class or whatever we're gonna see sweet, yeah, c-suite.
Chris Markey:Right, yeah, right. You know I'm saying what about your kecks? Have a like a TED talk or something. You know what I mean for the people coming, because we, I don't really. I know there's a lot of innovation in the community.
Ty Cobb Backer:Listen and we have. I mean there's a lot of cool things about York, york, barbell York, peppermint patty. You know it could turn into something where we we need to rent out the revs stadium. You know what I mean. Like York is already on the map but no one really utilizes it like we could. Yeah, you know, because there's a, like you said, there's been a lot of. There is a lot of successful business owners here and a lot of successful businesses have come out of York. And again, I just mentioned the two that off the top of my head. But glad felter paper there's there, students probably writing on his paper On the west coast, right, don't don't even know that their papers coming from the glad felters.
Chris Markey:And though they got bought and they switched it up, but still it started right, I'm glad felter insurance or glad felter. I mean he has a fund, right, mm-hmm. I remember saying to some people that run his fund Like, hey, you know what are they gonna run out of money? And they're like, yeah, they never, yeah, never. Like we could give away money forever, like it's just that this is how thought provoking these people they, they did this for years they give it away.
Chris Markey:Yeah you know me and I just think that needs to be heard also needs, for sure you know. So that's I'm in on that. If you are, we we. Maybe that could be on our list. Maybe we try to find a time and get that all done and get a little bored together, yeah you know, maybe we come back on here and talk about it. Yeah let's tell you what we're doing.
Ty Cobb Backer:Or, for sure, we'll definitely use this platform to to promote it and advertise for it and encourage people to come if they want to Be better leaders, you know, be be better co-workers, whatever, whatever our topics or, you know, uh, direction is that we want to take it? Um, but I think, I think we need to do this.
Chris Markey:Yeah, there's a lot of profound people men, women, men or women In the community that have had a lot of success, that people that other people need to know.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, I can think of probably five off the top of my head right now without even thinking about it. Yeah, there's a ton.
Chris Markey:You start writing it down, so I'm excited Me too. That was awesome. Yeah, that was good. Yeah can we keep going?
Ty Cobb Backer:Are we at our hour mark?
Chris Markey:Yeah, I just appreciate the kind words earlier and I appreciate you yeah. I just, I'm just proud of what you've done here.
Ty Cobb Backer:Thank you, me too.
Chris Markey:And, you know, started with chris baker too.
Ty Cobb Backer:I mean good shout out to him. I mean going back to the shane de gary days.
Chris Markey:Yeah, man, shane de gary, that was one of my first ones, yeah that was awesome yeah. Yeah, no doubt supposed to have it outside in rain.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, yeah, and we were talking about that too. As soon as the weather starts getting better, we'll be outside doing that Would be really cool. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna change it up. We got some things in the pipeline here, um to to elevate this to a whole another level that you know, we thought, or most people may have thought, that you know this, this is the end, all to be all, and it's going to be in this Little gray room and the onsite, the onsite that you did at my shop.
Chris Markey:I thought was very thought-provoking, because now, if we're gonna have a leadership meeting, maybe we do the tie-in where, yeah, things going up to that leadership meeting, right, you go to that business and there you go around, okay.
Ty Cobb Backer:You know what I?
Chris Markey:mean, yeah, I love that idea with the show. So make show content for you. They get on and they're gonna start promoting that, and then we promote the fact that you know this person or people that are running this company are gonna speak. I love that idea, yeah, so I love that Cool.
Ty Cobb Backer:I'm just full of them today. I know you are Really. You need to come here more often.
Chris Markey:Uh, you gotta ask me. Yeah, you give me a cup of coffee, black coffee, and I'm good to go, all right, yeah just like you're, eight Hyper drinks in the morning.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yeah, you know, I don't know if I had a red bull this week. Yeah, I cut it back. I'm down on one cup cup of coffee in the morning. That's it. That's it Really. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just gotta change it up a little bit, yeah.
Chris Markey:Yeah, I gotta change some things up ever evolving, you know revolving or evolving both.
Ty Cobb Backer:Yes, the answer is yes on that net, um, but thank you, thank you for coming on. Thank thank you everyone for for listening and tuning in on your lunch break. Hopefully you got and gained something from this. Uh, no, I did.
Chris Markey:Yes, I did too.
Ty Cobb Backer:And uh, thank you guys for watching. Stay tuned for next week. Uh, episode 218 will have Steven spent, so he'll actually be live in the studio, like marky was today. And uh, well, have a good week, have a good rest of your week and don't forget to like love. Subscribe to our youtube channel, google play and apple peace out.
Chris Markey:Okay, okay.