The Athletes Podcast
The Athletes Podcast is a leading source of information, inspiration, and education for anyone interested in optimizing physical performance, maintaining good health, and living an active lifestyle. Join David Stark as he interviews some of the world's biggest athletes and fitness professionals, The Athletes Podcast provides practical advice, expert insights, and real-world strategies to help listeners achieve their health and fitness goals.The goal is to entertain, educate & inspire the next generation of athletes!
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Breaking Barriers in Health and Wellness with Dr. John Beedle
Episode #239 of The Athletes Podcast features insights from Dr. John Beedle, a seasoned chiropractor with a knack for storytelling. From the unexpected arrest of a patient to the growing popularity of the knees over-toes movement, Dr. Beedle tackles controversial topics such as steroids, peptides, and biohacking, providing practical advice on safe supplementation. He shares his journey through chiropractic school and provides invaluable advice for overcoming long-term bad habits with patience and determination.
Ever wondered how electronic music can transform your workout experience? We explore the high-energy vibes of electronic music, discussing its pervasiveness from Vegas clubs to everyday places like grocery stores. Reflecting on personal experiences and professional journeys, we paint a vivid picture of the close-knit sports community. We also reminisce about shared moments with mentors like Jordan Shallow from Rx Radio and delve into the contrasting cultures and unique hustles of Vegas, Canada, and the Midwest, highlighting the diverse hospitality and motivational environments each place offers.
What are the real challenges and rewards of community healthcare? This episode covers personal anecdotes and volunteering stories, including experiences with the Salvation Army and Special Olympics, we shed light on the transformative power of time and education in patient care. Wrapping up with discussions on fertility and wellness, we celebrate the collaborative nature of our practice and the profound satisfaction of helping patients achieve their dreams of parenthood. Tune in for a rich blend of professional wisdom, personal stories, and actionable tips that promise to inspire and inform.
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Treated this dude for three months and she goes to adjust them one day. And then five US marshals walked in the room and they're like you're under arrest and she was like what?
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Speaker 2:This is the 239th episode of the Athletes Podcast featuring Dr John Beadle. Here we go. This is my favorite. You like this? No, I don't know. I've only had it done once. I've donated blood. I've tried donating blood twice.
Speaker 2:I get to like the five, eight minute mark. And then I start going pale oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And I basically it just rejects it and I'm they're really frustrated and they keep calling me because I have really good blood and it donates super fast. But as soon as I hit that mark, you're just wrecked, yeah, and they're like OK, we got to pull you off, yeah, and I almost I almost filled the full vial, whatever it was before, and they were like this is crazy how fast you were pumping, like it was probably. That was probably the issue, but I don't know. Whatever it is, that's incredible. You know, I was listening to our conversation yesterday and I'm like man, there's so much that we can be doing in the sport world.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 2:I feel like I've only scratched the surface and I'm five years into chatting with people on a weekly isn't it crazy?
Speaker 1:yeah, isn't it crazy? Because, like, the thing that's cool, sports, bro, is that it's always changing. Right, it's always, something is always changing, no matter what, and you don't even know what's going to be. The new thing, though, right, like it's like you could kind of predict patterns, but then you're like whoa, this guy came out with like spaced toes shoes, like what yeah, the old vivo wear foot yeah, right, like those are great shoes too.
Speaker 1:And then you're like wait a second. Where the fuck did that come from? Yeah, the hell is this guy yeah, right, what do you see? What do you think about, like the knees over toes movement and the I don't know like I, personally man, like I I try to not be a hater on like anything, you know. Like I feel, like in medicine someone's always it's just like an asshole, everybody's got one right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, like everyone is, oh well, that's stupid. But then it's like they'll show you a pattern that is very similar to what that person does or based off that model.
Speaker 1:So I try to just kind of like if it makes the patient or athlete feel better, I support it yeah you know, like there's shit that my patients do, then I'm like, yeah, I would not do that at all, but it helps them out, right. Obviously it's not dangerous for them, but you know, but it's just like, it's just all. We're all constantly learning, right? I think, as a provider, you really need to teach patients how to fend for themselves, right? So like not to become self-reliant on you yeah right, because then you're not. I think you need to pay for your education as a patient for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're not just paying for the 60 minute personal training session, you're paying for all the education information exactly afterwards right like you are investing time to learn things about your body that you need to learn and that will help you in the future, right people are ignorant of that and they wait until they're 50 to do it right, or they're like, or they're so impatient that they're like what the hell?
Speaker 1:This doesn't work. And it's like brother, I've seen you twice. And then, like me, I'm a big numbers guy, right, so, like with patients, they're like, you know, man, I don't feel that much better. And I'm like that's why I get measurements, numbers, percentages, I get everything on everyone, because sometimes you have to explain things differently to people. So, like I had one patient, he's like man, you know, I've only been in here twice and I feel that much different. And I'm like okay, how long have you had this pain for? He's like, oh man, like seven years. And I go, okay, well, two visits with me, that's about an hour of time.
Speaker 2:Seven years of bad work.
Speaker 1:Right. So seven years of bad work? Is that one hour plausible to make you feel the way you want to feel by the end of this treatment? And then they're like no, no, you're right you know, like when you it's it's all numbers game, right? Like do you want to explain it by minutes, seconds, days or visits? I like to keep the math simple at first Cause. Then it's like oh yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Data informed not necessarily like fully data driven.
Speaker 1:Exactly Right. Yeah, cause it's like there's stuff that happens in case studies that doesn't work for people. Yeah, that's why I got into functional medicine. Right, cause there's so many patients that don't fit that statistic that we use all these case studies on for blood work. Like how many times people gone to the doctor and they're like the doctor's like, oh, your labs are fine. And it's like, if my, my labs are fine, why the fuck am I in here?
Speaker 2:yeah I don't feel fine and their definition of fine is very broad. It's like oh yeah, between 20 and 50, you're okay but if you're at 49 and one more number changes you to being yep in danger. Yeah, but it doesn't matter because you're in normal range.
Speaker 1:Yep, I, I joke about TSH thyroid stimulating hormone in the States right, the reference range is 0.45 to 4.5. So if you had a car with a tank of gas and if I'm like, hey brother, I need you to drive 200 miles, but I don't know how much gas is in this thing, I don't know how much you really need because I don't know how much is in the car. This thing, I don't know how much you really need because I don't know how much is in the car, but you have 0.45 to 4.5. You'd be like, well, shit, dude, like that, from what it sounds like you gave me, it's only 50 of what I might need, or not even enough, right?
Speaker 2:so it's always based off the individual okay, so tell me about your experience before tara throws all this red stuff in and tells us what we're what we're.
Speaker 1:First off shout out to her too. Yeah, shout out to Tara Shout out to Tara because this is incredible we're a five-star service.
Speaker 2:We're being efficient. Here do you want to take the mic and explain what we're?
Speaker 1:Oh, we're going to pee red. Yes, yes, don't be afraid by that. Okay, I was going to say it.
Speaker 2:I didn't just get punched in the ribs. Yes, okay, okay, look at that, I love it. And then we're getting a mixture of magnesium here. I'll let you explain.
Speaker 3:You're the, you're the professional you're such a sweetheart, aren't you? Seriously all right. So we're doing a couple of different things, just different from a standard vitamin mineral bag, because you're prepping for a big event in two days' time, three days' time, and you're back to sport now too. Yeah, just a has-been you know?
Speaker 1:No, back to sport now. We're going to support energy production pathways.
Speaker 3:We're going to support your immune processing. We're going to support your immune processing. We're going to support your muscle recovery process too. So in both your bags we've done a little bit similar dosings a smidge different between the two of you, just based on where you're at in sport. But we're doing high-dose vitamin C as an antioxidant. Vitamin C is an acid, so we buffer that with sodium bicarbonate and then we have all of the B vitamins imaginable. That's why it's red. B complex is going to be yellow, but that red's going to be overpowering. From the methylcobalamin, we use methylated forms of vitamins and minerals so that they get right into your cell. Nothing stops them. They're already methylated, they're already as bioavailable as they could be. We did some taurine, which you may have heard from Red Bull. Yeah, energy drinks, energy drinks.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But in Red Bull or in an energy drink they put taurine in there, which is an amino acid, so that the caffeine doesn't explode your heart.
Speaker 3:So it's kind of like a governor, so it keeps things a little bit more stable as it crosses the cell membrane and won't flood the cell too quickly. So we did taurine, we did carnitine, which you've heard of in sports medicine for muscle tissue repair, recovery and also helping you to take fats for fuel. Use fats for fuel. So predominantly we look to carbohydrate for fuel in sport. But when we run out of carb or if we don't have as efficient of a system, then we want to use fats for fuel and carnitine helps you do that. We put proline in there because that's a beautiful anti-inflammatory, because your inflammatory cascade is heightened.
Speaker 3:Right now, magnesium's in the bag, some zinc, some calcium, and then we just use half normal saline for the hydration side of it so everything uh has an osmolarity, which is how you move things in and out of a cell.
Speaker 3:An osmolarity probably around 700. Human blood is around 340. So we're actually shrinking your cell a little bit, but we're concentrating what's inside the cell and then, when you're done, your cells will expand again and then you'll be a machine, total machine tommy, stark iron man powers after this and I'll be flying up that spartan race. A hundred percent First place Guaranteed. I need that in writing.
Speaker 2:And uh, can you explain what you're doing with the urine testing as well?
Speaker 3:Yeah, sure. So with the urine testing we're doing some uh, pre and post exertion analysis. So we're looking at the P and we're trying to see what, before you get on the ice or before you do your sport, is your pH looking like? Are your glucoses looking like, your ketones looking like? What's your kidneys up to? What are your kidneys up to? And then we're looking at, basically, hydration status. It's called specific gravity.
Speaker 3:We're taking a look at what things look like before you do your exertion and then directly after you do your exertion. So did your pH change to where you get more acidic, way more acidic, in this case on the ice? We know that you're not absorbing as well if you pick up acid that much and then that's going to produce more inflammation and break down muscle tissue too much. So we look at protein too and we see how much protein did you break down? Did you break down as much as we would expect, since you're exerting, or did you break down too much? Is there blood in it? So, really, just looking to see what's changed with all those parameters. Then we apply amino acids or whatever needs to be applied to correct the system, recheck it and see how we've modified pre and post exertion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you for doing this. Where can people find you online so it feels that they can get their?
Speaker 3:own idea. Sure, yeah, well, on social Instagram is probably easiest. I'm Dr Tara Dunn. I think that's what my Instagram is. My other kind of independent company is Surpass Athlete Development, and that's just Surpass underscore athlete underscore development, and those are both on instagram amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you for getting dr john beetle and I swear to you you're the best thank you so much. Yeah, we're gonna feel amazing. That was the little yeah feeling great. You said you've done you. You were drawing blood weekly during cairo school. Is that what I?
Speaker 1:I heard yes, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Okay, so give me the breakdown on the Wolverine stack that you're on and what you're doing.
Speaker 1:Oh, my gosh. Well, let's see the moral of the story of what I just heard that if you're going to do anything that explodes your heart, take taurine.
Speaker 2:I didn't know. That's what taurine did.
Speaker 1:Those of you getting ready for a long weekend, I guess Get some touring in you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're into the electronic music, then as well, love it yeah man?
Speaker 1:Yeah, big into that. Yeah, the little trash, can Beep boop bop. Yeah, love it yeah.
Speaker 2:I guess it's kind of a given when you're in Vegas. You're close proximity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, vegas is like there's just so much club music everywhere. You go Right, like I mean it's crazy. You go into an Albertsons. Do you guys have Albertsons Like a grocery store? No, imagine going to a grocery store home in Canada, okay, and there's slot machines in there and there's like a smoker friendly. It's absolutely nuts. You're like, what am I doing here? How do I live here? But yeah, anytime you go anywhere, there's always just loud music and honestly, I think electronic music, the hype of it, it's just very energy-driven, it's very uplifting. Not like gospel music, but you know, some people I guess it kind of is, but it really gets your energy up.
Speaker 2:And you're able to work with athletes and gen pop and some high profile clients. You're opening it up, a new gym, like you. Give me the rundown on like how you've been able to build this up, because you brad jordan. We're all in the same class too, right, or did I hear that correctly?
Speaker 1:no, so they actually. They graduated above me so it's so crazy, like I'm very I'm so fortunate and blessed to like have people that I have in my life like and thank you first off for having me on your podcast like this is incredible, so humbling, right. Um, I actually used to listen to jordan's podcast when I was in cairo school rx radio yes, yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 1:I remember my buddy, sam bassan and I. We listened to him every single day on the way to Lifetime in Minneapolis. Then we graduated. I graduated Cairo School for 2020.
Speaker 2:No shit, that was planned right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know right, I predetermined it was destiny. I mean smoke, weed, how boring is that. But yeah, it's funny how life comes in full circles and I'm sure you're starting to see this too. Once you get to that higher athlete population, it's actually a pretty small community. It's crazy. It's ridiculous. We know sports are such a large community but it just gets smaller the farther you go and the more people you meet. Obviously I remember the lacrosse world. You run into people that know your childhood friends and you're not even anywhere close to them anymore. So I guess kind of getting into how we got into this.
Speaker 1:I went to school in Minneapolis at Northwestern Health Science University, so it's the most medically sound chiropractic school in the nation. So we have pathologists teaching you pathology. We have MDs teaching you pharmacology or pharmacists. You know um clinpath right, where we had to draw blood every single week. And you know talking about my ding dong roommate, luke, who tried to draw my blood one day with his left hand, trying to be ambidextrous like an absolute buffoon scratching your bones scratching my humorous.
Speaker 1:Oh, never forget that that was, that was terrible, but yeah, man, it's, it's. Honestly, it's been such a blessing like coming here you know, meeting mark, getting to meet people he knows everyone.
Speaker 2:You want to talk about someone who knows mark literally knows everyone.
Speaker 1:Like my friends joke around that I know a lot of people and I'm like no, mark fitzgerald knows literally everyone. Like I'm surprised he's not like a politician by now or something like that kind of is is this your first year here?
Speaker 2:yep first year.
Speaker 1:So I was going to come here last year, fires, yep, fires. Literally the day I was getting to the airport. The day I was getting to the airport, fires hit and they're like, yeah, you're not going there. So, yep, I had all this fictional canadian currency that I got to save and your monopoly money. I had the monoc, the loonies and toonies, and I had to save it and then I got to use it for this year so it's great, man heck, yeah.
Speaker 2:What do you think so far?
Speaker 1:dude. I love it, man. Honestly, um, I actually really like traveling to canada okay, I like, I like traveling to canada, like, uh, everyone's very nice Right, especially kind of living in Vegas. It's very hustle, hustle, hustle hustle. So it's kind of nice coming here where everyone's like and people are nice in Vegas too, you know, but here it's like Canadian nice, you know, very friendly.
Speaker 2:It's different. I I know I remember experiencing that when I drove Toronto to LA and like, did that AP tour tour? We had like 30 episodes on the road. Midwest different, like different vibes. Yeah, I will say, midwest super nice also like that so. But you know, the la nevada vegas it's like it's pockets it's.
Speaker 1:It's a hustle right yeah so like coastal coastal it really is like northeast. It's like you know you could call someone a.
Speaker 2:I'm okay, thank you, I'm good.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much. You know, in the northeast you could call someone a motherfucker and it's kind of like a way of saying hi, you know it's like okay, that's different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Midwest they, and some of them are a little scared of their shadows, so that's okay dude, I'm chatting with fdny for expert vr firefighting stuff and like these guys are hard ass new yorkers and it's like man, I have no idea how to handle you guys like, and they're on calls chirping each other. I'm like man, I would get in trouble for saying that stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh if you want a wildfire department, uh, I have my buddy, mike zanetti. He's in vegas. He literally just accomplished his first year. Making it out of a rookie thing, got absolutely blasted for like old youtube videos. These guys got everything on him. It was hilarious. But you know, that's like a good team camaraderie type thing, you know, it's just it's like in sport.
Speaker 2:Right, you need that d room, you need that ego check. People, especially nowadays, can get high on their horse. I think we talked about that last week. Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a little bit everywhere, right? Yeah, and I can't even imagine for you, right? Because you get to hear so many conversations Like we were talking about, like having a podcast. You get a wealth of knowledge from everyone, right? You get to hear so many incredible ideas, like I always laugh. I'm like you know, joe rogan could possibly be one of the smartest people in america because he talks to the smartest people all the time, right?
Speaker 2:there's something about like you want to talk about being grateful and like I think we I was telling you before I even started recording like I have an excuse to talk to world-class coaches, athletes, nutritionists the best and the best yeah and I'm like I don't have any prerequisites to do that, I just am curious.
Speaker 1:I like getting after it, trying new things yeah, experiencing it and that's the thing, man, it's like having the hustle. You know, like I feel like kind of watching this new trend of athletes and like I guess I sound like it like such a boomer talking like this. But I feel like human interaction in person isn't like how it used to be, even just from growing up, and obviously things change. But it's like how often is it now that you're at the grocery store and you just randomly strike a random conversation with someone?
Speaker 2:Never.
Speaker 1:Hardly ever. Now right, and it's like I remember mean, granted, I'm from wyoming, so whatever you kind of know everybody, but you know like that's just like a friendly thing to do and I feel like now you know, hold the door open for someone and it's like I have a fucking boyfriend and it's like I'm holding the door open for you, like, relax, chill. I saw this. I saw this chick convulsing at edc and I told her friends. I said, hey, do you want me to do you guys want help getting her the medical tent? And her friends, they looked at my friend and I did, and I said she's like she's fine. And this chick is foaming at the mouth and I'm like, okay clearly your priorities are she clearly had a boyfriend or something like that.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. So it's just. It's wild though, man, but like, kind of getting back to like you know you asked me about peptides in school. You know it's pretty fortunate because in the States, kairos, like, our scope is different in a lot of states, right, so in Nevada I can order any imaging and any testing that I want, as long as we have a preventative game plan for the patient. So, and we don't overstep our boundaries, right, like I really stick to the stuff that I'm certified in and that I feel 100% confident in, like blood work.
Speaker 1:I do tons of blood work, I do tons of GI maps, I do a lot of stool tests, blood urine, hair, saliva. Because I realized when my dad got really sick with type 2 diabetes and he was diagnosed with that, I have a you know. Because I realized, like when my dad got really sick with type 2 diabetes and he was diagnosed with that, you know that process of his death took four years, right, and he was in that statistic where he didn't meet the criteria to be treated through insurance for type 2 diabetes. Right, he was just a couple points off in like three markers, but he had every symptom you know. So then you work on nutrition with people you know again like small town usa. Like you, I know you've driven through the small towns. I'm sure they're in canada too, where knob duster missouri.
Speaker 1:That's a hell yeah, brother yeah, be careful, just keep driving through that one, I don't even know that I stayed at night there.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, doubled shit. It doubled the population.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. That's how Wyoming is. It's gone now that I'm not there, but you know it's crazy because, like, he didn't even understand that, like getting biscuits and gravy from Carl's Jr was fast food. Because some people just associate a cheeseburger and fries as fast food, whereas like well, no, john, that's breakfast. Like fast food is well, no, john, that's breakfast. Like fast food is like lunchtime and it's like no man, it's not. You know it's. It's hard because, like when you work with the general population, a lot like it's educating it's all education, man, and that's.
Speaker 1:I feel bad for these doctors that work insurance because they are not gifted the amount of time that they can explain something. I don't think these are bad doctors. I mean, there's good and bad janitors everywhere, right? There's people that are like fuck it, I'm here to get paid, I don't care. And then there's people that are like I know there's doctors that are like man, I wish I had more time with that person because then I could have explained this case a little bit more in depth with them. But they can't. On average, they get seven and a half minutes and they have to fly through multiple people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they just did like make ends meet yeah such a shame because there's people out there that could be impacting people positively. Yeah, they're constrained by those handcuffs. Fortunately, there's people like yourself out there doing things, even helping maybe underserved communities like EDC, for instance, where people don't think about some proactive things they could be doing prior to headbanging for three straight days.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Yeah, like I know, like whenever I leave EDC, like I feel like I've ingrained my footprint on the concrete of the racetrack and I know a lot of people probably feel the same, you know and like working like lower privileged and things like that, like I've always volunteered with, like I did a, I did a couple in residencies with the Salvation Army in Minneapolis, so it's like very low income. This is a wild story. My, my wife she's also Cairo she treated this dude for three months and one day she went to adjust him. You could tell me your name's, bob Marley, and I can't ask any questions. They don't take anything which I don't know how that's legal, but whatever.
Speaker 1:Treated this dude for three months and she goes to adjust him one day. And then five US Marshals walked in the room and they're like you're under arrest and she was like what? And the dude just slowly got up off the table and he had murdered his wife and kids like five years prior and he was on the run and the, the us marshals, are like what do you have to say for running the all these years? And the guy goes I wasn't running, I was walking. This metal is fucking, yeah, so hard, right. But then it's like you know, like inner city stuff like that you never know like who you're treating, right, but like people still need help, not not that guy, that guy's a piece of shit, but regardless, you know. And then you know I've interned with special olympics, right, I do a lot with Special Olympics. I do a lot with lower income house like teens. You know, I grew up in the attention homes. Yeah, you were telling me last night in your brother's experience Like I mean.
Speaker 2:I know both first off. Rest in peace to both brother and your dad.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry for your loss there. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2:But that was impactful to hear that and that was impactful to hear that and that was kind of what spearheaded you getting into this diving.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly Because you know, like with my dad, you know he was just. I mean I hope that, like people listening, you know they haven't had this experience yet in the hospital, but I mean there's a lot of people that have had the experience of you get sent to another person that doesn't know who the fuck you are. Then you wait three weeks to see the specialist. And then the specialist is like, okay, so what are you doing here? And it's like, well, did you not read the notes? Like I've been waiting to see you and meet you and hear these things. And they're like so what do you need? And then in that seven minutes they send you off to someone else. They don't even touch you or even interact with you, like it's just. And then you go to that next building. Then they're like who are you, you know? So it's like it's pretty, it's not set up for success in america with that.
Speaker 1:So that kind of really pushed me to okay, what can I do to help more people? What can I do where time won't be as big of an issue? Become a chiropractor. We're protected under the federal law of physicians, right. So chiropractic physicians, that's a thing, right. And then I did an additional 300 hours in functional medicine school so I have my CFMP. Through Functional Medicine University I did the Institute of Functional Medicine so I'm one of six providers in Nevada with that certificate and I'm the youngest one.
Speaker 2:No, big deal no big deal.
Speaker 1:No, big deal. I know right, there's a lot of hours. My wife will kill me if I told her that I actually just signed up for another.
Speaker 1:Uh continuing ed I know shit, I just steward myself. Well, hopefully I'll be done within a couple weeks and then, uh, and then I did my functional masters in blood chemistry, right, so I take functional medicine super serious, like. There's a lot of people that you know we're biohacking right now, yeah Right, but you know there's people that there's. These podcasts are awesome, but it misses a lot of context for people, right, like I know one is one really popular ones like magnesium, yeah Right, magnesium is great, but if you're on a certain heart medication or certain heart issues that could fuck you up most people don't know that. An oopsie. Right, vitamin d people take crazy amounts of vitamin d. Vitamin d is really beneficial for you. If you take too much vitamin d, you could get vertigo. Did you know that?
Speaker 1:I did not know that how much uh, typically when people's uh vitamin d levels are over 100, okay, that's when they start kind of getting like heart palpitations, tachycardia and vertigo like symptoms.
Speaker 2:It's crazy so I'm up in the pacific northwest, so you right now and I get no vitamin d and I'm crushing. I heard dr ronda patrick on.
Speaker 1:She's great. Love dr ronda pat.
Speaker 2:She's a gangster she'll throw like 10 000. I use no problem. Is that easy?
Speaker 1:that's okay I do anywhere for oh okay. So yeah, let me specify for me yeah I take anywhere from 10 to 20 000 perfect okay, I personally for most people and this is just me gently saying this because there's always exceptions to the rules exceptions. No one's the same. However, I think 10 000 iu is very safe, perfect, right. A lot of times, with most of these vitamins, the worst that's going to happen is you're going to get diarrhea or you pee it out or you pee it out right, like what's going to happen here, right like she's, like you're going to pee red.
Speaker 1:It's not your kidneys exploding right um, but yeah, it's just. It's cool, though, because we're at a time and place now in the world where we have podcasts like yours, where we get to learn really cool shit about sports and our bodies, and that's really cool and it used to all be gatekept behind closed doors you had no dollars and like yeah oh, you want to fix yourself. That sucks, brother. Hop in line so the rest of us. And now it. It's like you can Google it, you can find out whatever you want, man.
Speaker 2:I guess that brings up an interesting point, because you can Google literally anything. I could search up a million different things here and it would probably say either end of the spectrum, as in like oats, they're either the best thing or the worst thing for you, depending on who you follow on social media how do you decipher?
Speaker 2:do you read the research? I know even one. For example, there was some products had a ton of research over in dubai but nothing over here in north america that you were talking about yesterday yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, yeah, that's getting it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'll kind of explain that Right. There's like, like I said, everyone's got an opinion, right. I go based off the individual, right. So, for example, I know one thing we'll talk about peptides a little bit, right. So, peptides, right, everyone's like Ooh, bpc, this, bpc, that, like, when it comes to my patients, I'm so liberal, like cause, I'm like I value your time and dollars so much. Yeah, I don't want you to waste. Oh, yeah, I got to hit that too. Yeah, I'm going to have to hit that.
Speaker 2:Mid uh, mid game Relax.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right. Yeah, can I? Well, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2:Tara said it would be good bringing us out here to Kelowna. The uh, the best way to get a little extra relax in there. You'll see it, We'll be calmer for the last 15 minutes of this.
Speaker 1:I honestly was laughing the first time I hit this. Have you ever seen dumb and dumber? You know when he goes to spray in his mouth and he just misses it completely. I was so nervous yesterday when I was going to hit this thought I was going to just whiff completely.
Speaker 2:The trick is sticking your tongue out, finding the hole, uh, the whole, uh, as you're, that's what she says. Yeah, as I was saying I walked right, walk right in there, I don't laugh, you know um, no, it's. Uh, I was saying that for the sleep one, when it's at night, when you're trying to eliminate those ultra lights uh, I wear blue light blockers. What other biohacking stuff do you do, because I think that'd be an interesting topic for you oh yeah, man.
Speaker 1:So I I'm like a. Anyone that comes into my office and sees me, I am like a peptide rat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you literally just said, you were a lab rat.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I literally like and it drives my wife crazy because I also do experiments on her. She just has no idea. I'll take supplements, like to the most extreme. I'll get my blood work done first and then correlate markers to certain products that I like to take, like nutraceuticals, and then I'll take a very aggressive dose of nutraceuticals on certain things or try out new protocols on myself for about four to six weeks and then I retest my blood work to see what happens and it's like, okay, yep, don't take that much. Dhea, whoa, that's a very high amount. But peptides, man, they're becoming super sexy. It's a sexy vocabulary term right now. I've been taking peptides since sorry Mom, like 2010, like when I was in high school?
Speaker 2:No way, yeah, man Shut up.
Speaker 1:I was even taking Clenbuterol. I had no business taking Clenbuterolol. It's a form of steroid that people use to cut weight. Yeah, like I've done clenbuterol, I haven't actually done testosterone, or I haven't done hgh. I know right, is that?
Speaker 2:not, so I'm uh, I'm still clean, as of right now I'm an addy and, uh, fully intend on staying that way. Yeah, but I don't know well the.
Speaker 1:The second, you're not. I know a guy, kenny KO, and if you ever see him he's going to come up and ask you if you're natty or not I'll give you a warning, just so you know what he looks like.
Speaker 2:Fortunately I'm not in your position with the couch shoulders. People don't question me. They're like, yeah, this guy's natty. They see how much weight I'm pulling pulling so yeah, it's nothing crazy, but I I am curious like it is sexy. Everyone's talking about it, everyone compares themselves on social media. Yeah, and now everyone's like oh well, these guys are on peptides, these guys are on testosterone. So it seems like oh, I could take it and it's natural, so it should be fine.
Speaker 1:But like you yourself are doing full speaking engagements on steroids and yeah, all the time probably the pros and cons of it, Can you?
Speaker 2:maybe share, I guess, the highlights and the lowlights about steroids.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, man. When it comes to like steroids, peptides you know biohacking like. Here's my thing. First off, I'll talk about steroids, cause we work with them quite frequently in our office. Um, you don't sell them, but I work with a lot of athletes and populations that use them.
Speaker 1:The most important thing is where you get it from. I tell people, okay, yeah, you can buy supplements on Amazon or you can just buy it from the company where it comes, from their manufacturer, their website, their warehouse, right, because when you buy stuff like, are you really like okay? So, for example, let's use Chris's product from someone that just bought a lot of his product and didn't really sell it. Right, it might not be kept the same, it might not travel the same, or what did this person that's not working with Chris do to the? You see what I'm saying. Yeah, I had a patient. She bought these Zymogen products off Amazon just to save four or five bucks which I get. It's four or five bucks, it adds up but one of her products wasn't kept stored properly. She got black mold toxicity. Yeah, that fucked her up. Whoa scary stuff, right?
Speaker 2:so it's like, honestly like taking a little ashwagandha, you get some black exactly.
Speaker 1:Actually it was. Yeah, like it actually was one of those. Yeah, so, like, if you don't store things properly, they get messed. And people don't think that with supplements because we're all younger, right. But as we get older, I'm like, oh man, yeah, like wash my hands way, way, way more. Now, right. And then I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna take a drink from or try someone's drink from someone I don't know, obviously right, just because you never know what people have of their sickness or anything, right. But when it comes to steroids and let's classify steroids real quick Testosterone is not a steroid. Testosterone is a hormone. But things like Trenbolone, dianabol, winstraw, things like Clenbuterol, things like that, those are steroids. You want to find places that can actually compound it where it's legal. Now, some of those are not legal to compound, but you need to be careful with where people get stuff from. So wherever you get it from, whoever's listening to this, always show me the carfax yeah what's the molecular weight of it?
Speaker 1:what's the enzymatic process of it? If people can't answer that, probably shouldn't buy it from that person, because then they don't understand the chemistry of it. Right, when it comes down to testosterone, it's so normalized now where I find it more like why would you not get it from a compounded pharmacy? Yeah, right, because that way an actual pharmacist is doing it, not someone in their garage or basement it's like buying marijuana now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like a decade ago exactly right, like yeah, you could get a deal from your drug dealer, but it's like, why not just go get it where it's regulated right?
Speaker 2:so for those athletes who do play sports, who can be supplemented enhanced? Is it just getting a testing done? Getting testing done, identifying?
Speaker 1:where the gaps are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, more than just pumping yourself full of these things and seeing what works.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, just do the option B and I, like a true story I will not even give my mother B vitamins unless they order her tests.
Speaker 1:Cause, here, here's the thing, right, like and this is, I'm super liberal when it comes to my patients right? When my mom asked me for B9, b12, and I was like, well, let's order your blood work first, see if that's something that you need or if that's what you should need need, right, yeah, if that b12 just because I'm bad at math or b9, b12 was a hundred dollars a month and she's got that for 12 months, that's 1200 of a lady that's trying to retire, right, compared to okay, let's spend 250 dollars. Let's do a good blood test, right, and then we'll figure out what you actually need and we're putting our dollar towards the right thing at the proper dosage for the proper amount of time, right, because then you could do two blood tests for the amount you just spent on that B9, b12 that you don't even know if you need, and then you spent just like $400 five hundred bucks on the proper amount of supplement that you needed. You see what I'm saying 100.
Speaker 2:So that's blood testing. Now I had like justin rothling, chauffeur on who okay, cool, own it okay when I was in miami and one of the things he's doing is like genetic testing. There's all that stuff. What are your thoughts? Where's that going? Brian johnson?
Speaker 1:yeah, so, okay. So like I again like, like I try to not be a hater.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that of you too.
Speaker 1:I really try to not be a hater on people and their business because, bro, that's how people feed their family and it's how they pay their bills and that's their passion. That's really cool. Okay, let's talk about some things with genetics though. So single, though, so single nucleotide polymorphs those are called snips is what we call them in our world right? Um, there's a study done a long time ago that a lot of these companies are starting to use now, and it's like fucking old study. Yeah, do you remember the show the biggest loser?
Speaker 1:yes they took the sperm of the contestants when they were obese and they found the obesity gene. Then they took the sperm and genetically tested it of the contestants that were in the finals and the genetic snip for obesity was gone. Okay, wow.
Speaker 2:Groundbreaking.
Speaker 1:Groundbreaking. So you go from being overweight to in shape. Wow, you don't process that gene anymore.
Speaker 3:Duh.
Speaker 1:Right. So when it comes to genetic testing, a couple things. Number one methylation let's use that because that's a really sexy one right now. This is what I do. I'll look at people's blood work, which is a fraction of the cost of genetic testing. I'll look at their b, I'll order specific markers like mma or cobalamin, folate, whatever I want to look at, and then you correlate symptoms. Easiest way to figure out if someone has a methylation issue give them a methylated B vitamin and then see if their symptoms change. Right, because, remember, we get to this process of we do genetic testing.
Speaker 1:What happens after you get a genetic test? They give you what Supplements, right, okay, so if I know genetically you have a dysfunction test, they give you what supplements, right, okay. So if I know genetically you have a dysfunction or a snip in your genes for processing certain things like comt or mthfr or whatever like that, okay, well, I could give you a liposomal form like what chris makes. Get it right in your bloodstream, make you feel better, okay, well, that saves a lot of money and time right Now. That is kind of shotgun treating, but it's much more cost effective than genetic testing or doing blood work right, or the gut Dude, I do a lot.
Speaker 1:I do a lot with the gut and, you know, I kind of like I'm even starting to stray away a little bit from some stool test companies because some of them they're not passing my sniff test. Literally. I'm not sniffing the shit, but like literally. I'm just like this isn't working the way I thought it would, you know, because some of them don't add up to how they used to add up, right? I think people cut corners a lot because testing is so popular now, right?
Speaker 2:So when you, I, I on that topic of, like the biggest loser 300 pounds, 150 losing that genetic, that gene, I also there was a recent study that talked about when a human is conceived, that if the male or if the yeah, I believe it was the male was in better shape or healthier at that time, that the kid's going to be healthier too. So would you be going on some type of protocol prior to conceiving or eliminating those things prior to conceiving? Like, how would you go about that?
Speaker 1:Well, someone with a family, I'll tell you a funny joke real quick. I told my wife that we couldn't have kids until she ran a six 45 mile and then she told me we couldn't have kids until I learned how to do basic math. So she threw it right back in my face. So and that's why we still don't have kids. I'm just kidding, but you know, the thing is is like there's a when we get down to like genetics and how our body is right, like we work. I work with IVF patients a lot right and dude, some of the most challenging, some of the hardest and some of the most rewarding cases you ever work on right, because some people it takes a lot of focus Right and it takes a lot of dedication and it's really expensive Not on my end, but the process of IVF is crazy expensive IVF.
Speaker 1:Explain that so that's basically what they do to try to get people to have kids Right. So if, like you know, just regular intercourse doesn't work right, or reproduction, yeah, that doesn't work, what they do is they'll do injections for you and the artificial insemination yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's hard man. So but for those cases, what do we look at doing? Okay, so you very difficult for them to have a child. Typically, their lifestyle inactive or they have some form of very poor diet, they don't exercise, they don't train, high stress, right. So what do we do for these people? Calm the fire down, crush and relax. Let's crush some fresh. Crush some relax, get the sleep right. Get, get Chris's products Right or get some touring in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, products, right or?
Speaker 1:get some taurine in you, yeah, yeah, make sure the heart doesn't, that's right. Make sure your heart doesn't explode, right. But you know, like you, just basically what you can do is, you know you want to work on diet, you want to work on exercise, you want to work in meditation, you want to work on everything right. And then those are the cases where something beautiful really happens and they end up. I've had, out of four cases that I've worked on, three of them have been able to conceive kids.
Speaker 2:How fucking cool. Is that right? 75 that's.
Speaker 1:That's putting you in the hall of fame and I know people are like, oh, that's not a lot of cases. I'm like for a chiropractor, for someone coming into my office and they're wanting me to do nutrition testing, exercise programming. And then I also do case management with other people, right? I refer them to an acupuncturist.
Speaker 2:I work with their endocrinologist, right, I'm not just the guy that just, oh, I do it all and that's what I appreciated when I had jordan shallow on a year and a half two years ago probably now, and he was like. I asked him like what is your title? What are you?
Speaker 1:he's like man, I just connect people too right, he's like I'm a chiropractor by trade, but I know who to go to when I, when an athlete needs this, that or the other things, right, and it's a specialty when yeah, you really have to know, like I think the thing in kind of all forms of anything, like some people try to do someone else's job, like it's like I remember one business coach I mean, they'll figure out who it is when they talk, when they, if they listen to this. You need to do labs in-house and I go. Why? I'm not the phlebotomist I ordered. I know I'm the professional ordering the labs. That's lab core and quest job. Yeah, they should go to lab core quest because they're the professionals. Yeah, I could hook someone up to an IV. I'm not the pro at it. She is, yeah, right, like I don't need to be able to do everything. You need to trust me on where I need to send you.
Speaker 2:That's my job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I refer out for cardiology all the time. I refer out for imaging, I refer out for testing. You know, it's like you just got to know your limits and what you need.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know and know your boundaries, know your limits play within it, right, um, we're almost done this. Iv drip, this is dope. I, my body was thirsty, I, uh, I can't thank you enough for chopping it up, dude.
Speaker 1:thank you so much, man. I really do appreciate it. And you, honestly, man, like you're going to be really successful, and you already are right now. But you're going to be really successful and you already are right now, but you're going to be very successful in continuing this endeavor, like it's really cool. So, thank you, embrace those suckage days and don't forget those suckage days, cause it'll make the good days even greater, you know these are the, these are the good days, these are the good times there are definitely the sucky days.
Speaker 2:You know ebbs and flows.
Speaker 1:Life's flows, life's full of seasons. Some days I say some days you're the windshield and some days you're the bug, but I'm always john beetle. Yeah, damn right. Yeah, I know right. So we're, uh, I don't know. However you want to take that as we know it absolutely that's perfect.
Speaker 2:And as we wrap up, as tara pulls these needles out of us here, um, we once we've got the wolverine stack and I want you to share. I know you have a new facility opening up and you've got some exciting things open space. What do you want to leave the athletes podcast with?
Speaker 1:oh man, you know honestly, like what do you mean exactly?
Speaker 2:well you, you do have your up-and-coming release that you were talking about.
Speaker 1:Yes, are you allowed to?
Speaker 2:talk about those things. What can we share? Let's share what you can share and what you know I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this, this is the best way to present this yeah, so we're gonna genesis integrated medicine.
Speaker 1:We're gonna be opening up our own facility uh, we're gonna be located right by the durango casino in las vegas a really good area. We're gonna have more space. Uh, it's our next stepping stone. Man, like I'm just I'm so thankful for every patient that's been with us this whole time, right like from dragons lair alignology torture gym. You know, it's just been such an amazing ride and now we're ready for the next stuff and we're just going to keep chipping away and hopefully we're going to finalize this thing with insomniac and that's going to be even bigger for people with edc. You know, just lifestyle stuff. And then the next steps after that are going to be doing more community work, man. So if there's ever anything that we can do to plug you in with any of this stuff, you just let us know dude, that's one of the things I wanted to make sure the philanthropic work you're doing is phenomenal.
Speaker 2:We're going to get down to vegas. We're going to make sure that we highlight what you've got built there. We'll get a lift in. We're going to get a lift in now at iron nation?
Speaker 1:no, absolutely not iron energy, though apparently that's a big no-no here iron nation right yes, iron nation. Yeah, yeah, I messed that up like 16 times yesterday and everyone looked at me like I was crazy. Now I know why, but yeah, no, it's uh.
Speaker 2:Hey, it's been a pleasure. Where can people find you? On socials also?
Speaker 1:yeah, easiest place to find me is on instagram and it it's at Dr John Beadle On Instagram. That's it D-R-J-O-H-N-E-D-E-L-E, and our website is genesisintegratedmedcom. Beautiful Dr.
Speaker 2:John Beadle, thanks for coming on the pod. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you, folks for tuning in. The producer for the Athlete's Podcast is Ryan Lott. Big shout-out to him for his continuous efforts and big shout out to dr john beetle for coming on the show sharing his story, wisdom, insights, for not correcting me when I didn't even bring up his lacrosse background here on the athletes podcast, but I think you folks will benefit from the 40 plus minutes that we chatted and from dr tara learning about what we had given to us in our ivs prior to my spartan race.
Speaker 2:That I don't know if you guys heard, was kind of a mess. It was five hours, it was freezing cold. The only time it stopped raining was when it decided to hail and snow. So that's story for another time, but for now we get to see you next week for another new episode of the athletes podcast. I appreciate you showing up, tuning in, listening, taking some pieces of advice. Let me know your favorite piece of advice from this episode or any of our other previous 238, because this is why we're here. Hey, thanks for tuning in. Hope you have a great rest of your day. We'll see you next week. Bye.
