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Mariam Abdul-Rashid & Duan Asemota - From Olympic Dreams to Everyday Quirks: Insights with Canadian Track Stars
Unravel the exhilarating world of track and field with Canadian Olympians Mariam Abdul-Rashid and Duan Asemota, fresh from their experiences in Paris. They invite us into their lives, sharing the electrifying energy of the Olympic Village, where four years of dreams are packed into a whirlwind week. You'll hear about the unique bond formed among athletes, the thrill of competition, and the occasional culinary mishap. Amidst the triumphs and trials, they open up about the journey that led them to represent Canada on one of the most prestigious stages in the world, offering a raw and honest glimpse into the life of an Olympian.
Amidst the laughs, there's a deeper conversation about the logistical and emotional challenges athletes face, especially when racing against the clock or recovering from setbacks. From the absence of personal coaches to the pressure of post-race interviews, we uncover the resilience required to perform at the highest level.
Our conversation rounds off with stories of perseverance and humour, highlighting the diverse paths athletes take to achieve their dreams. Whether it's the camaraderie within the track community, the mental grind of marathon training, or the transformative power of a motivational playlist, we celebrate the spirit of sportsmanship. We touch on how multi-sport backgrounds can fortify an athlete's journey, the joy of embracing personal style on the track, and even the playful creation of new monikers like "Big Flo." Join us for an episode filled with inspiration, laughter, and the shared pursuit of greatness that resonates across disciplines.
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So grade 11, I'm at a basketball tournament. We're supposed to be going to do Bounce National, which is the biggest meet of the indoor meet.
Speaker 2:For high school kids.
Speaker 1:For high school kids of the year. I have a game on Sunday. We leave on Wednesday. Sunday came broke my ankle, called the coach on Monday, told him I can't come. I didn't run for the rest of the year.
Speaker 3:Hey, welcome back to the 244th episode of the Athletes Podcast today featuring Mariam Abdul-Rashid and Dwayne Asimota, two Canadian Olympians who just came back from Paris. I drove up to Durham, had dinner with the two of them and had the best time just chopping it up, hearing stories from them around Paris, the ups, the downs, the in-betweens, and honestly, just learning about the sprinting, the hurdling, the culture that is track and field. As I dive deeper into this sport, I continue to be amazed at the different intricacies that are involved and every single little variable that's at play, and I hope you folks continue to appreciate what we are privy to here on the Athletes Podcast. I'm feeling grateful here after Canadian Thanksgiving to be able to have these conversations on a weekly basis. I'm grateful for Perfect Sports, for supplementing the Athletes Podcast and all of you folks listening. When you use the code AP20, you save 20% at checkout and you get the best supplements in Canada, all around the world, actually now globally, thanks to their incredible team, and we also get to rock some pretty cool shoes thanks to New Balance. Ahead of the Toronto Waterfront Marathon here in a few days, on Sunday October 20th, I will be racing in it. I will be going for that sub four hour marathon time and I appreciate all the messages that you folks have been sending. I know I'm not the greatest at getting back to everyone, but it means the world to me and I can't wait to share it with some of you here in Toronto. And if you're not here, let's get a workout in, let's go for a run.
Speaker 3:I'm traveling all across North America here and I want to meet all these fantastic individuals who are listening to the Athletes Podcast, and I want to make sure that we feature these incredible stories on a weekly basis. So, whether you have a favorite episode from the past or someone who you want to see featured on the show, send me a message. Let's get going. This is the 244th episode of the Athletes Podcast. Thank you for tuning in. Here we go. You're the most decorated racquetball player in US history, world's strongest man, from childhood passion to professional athlete, eight-time Ironman champion. So what was it like making your debut in the NHL? What is your biggest piece of advice for the next generation of athletes, from underdogs to national champions? This is the Athletes Podcast, where high-performance individuals share their triumphs, defeats and life lessons to educate, entertain and inspire the next generation of athletes. Here we go.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:He's been acting who has to change their lock screen before they leave here.
Speaker 1:Are you serious? It's actually a location thing, did you answer?
Speaker 3:the question though Do you have two phones?
Speaker 1:I actually, I do have two phones, you do have two phones. Oh, that's what we were talking about.
Speaker 2:No, okay, okay, he has phones in Paris.
Speaker 1:They did okay. But okay, samson, good start. I have two phones granted, okay. But here's the thing For real, Like yeah.
Speaker 2:Not for bullshit. Okay, two active lines.
Speaker 1:I have one active line, I have a lot of cellular phones. I mean, I'm a tech guy.
Speaker 3:Are you? Yeah, you are yeah, yeah. I was looking through your LinkedIn. I saw that, yeah, I'm a tech guy.
Speaker 1:that stuff like that, so you know we get another line from ac anyway. He's been posed this question before. Yeah, we get another line from ac anyway, it's free, so you use it. Yeah, it's a free line, like it's from ac air canada I don't know, it's from bell uh through bell and ac partnership. We have a. We have a free line, so it's a 905 number. I use at&t. I have a us number because we go back and forth a lot.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I don't like to incur fees when I go to the US and I want to use data, call etc. So AT&T is North America, when AC has meets or training camps, wherever. It's just like I can have one number and plus when I'm here data still works, plus it's cheaper. So when they gave us the line and plus it all, just plus what you know what the crazy thing is, it's just stigma around phones.
Speaker 1:Why can't business people have two phones? They do, they do, they do. In case I'm a businessman Drug dealers yeah, you're a businessman, you know what. We need to stop the stigma around the two phones. It does not mean cheater, drug dealer, it just means person who likes to be organized and have things in different places. If I have two's, why it's different?
Speaker 2:yeah, you gotta stop putting that android on instagram. That's a tough one you're noticing it. Who can't?
Speaker 1:it's like a fucking calculator just posted but it's just when I reshare the stories, though you noticed it. I was trying to wonder if I noticed it or not for real. You can tell even just when I repost the story sure, uh, that one will test.
Speaker 2:But when you post with it, I'm like literally stop forever okay, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1:I don't know what she's even talking about well, we'll test it.
Speaker 2:We'll test it. What?
Speaker 3:is she? Is he talking about?
Speaker 2:It is a thing I think when you repost too, it is a thing. Yeah, when you repost my answer to Android for a second and I'm like Lola, shut it down.
Speaker 1:Wow, yeah, all right. Well, that changes things, all right.
Speaker 2:I know how to move.
Speaker 1:You know when you're in place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Plus, you know when you're in yeah, so you know what. You know when I'm on which phone yeah, so I'm helping you out of anything if you were to ever, so you can tell when you when you're slipping.
Speaker 3:Put it that way you gotta keep it just on the instant. That's that's why I would have two phones one for social media, the other for like texting, calling and just like not for any other reasons, no, but if you want to just enjoy, like ios and what are you enjoying?
Speaker 1:on Android. Yeah, I mean, the Android's actually really nice. I heard Android's a great phone and the phone we got it's like a Samsung Z series 6 Flip. It flips open. That's cute. I wish I had it here.
Speaker 2:We'll see that it's actually a cool phone. I didn't want to bring my other phone because I don't want to be judged Now. Look at it. People were propping it and watching shows on it. They're doing their makeup. I'm like that's cute, that's hard.
Speaker 3:Yeah, samsung just sent Brian Wallach, a buddy of mine who's playing basketball over in Spain the same thing he just did a commercial with it. I was like very old school style but new school vibe. Yeah, especially at the same time. Yeah, it's wild. Yoane asomoda mariam abdul rashid, thank you for coming on the show. Yo, this is 244 now. Crazy, uh, we are in whitby not ajax not scarborough whitby we are specifically at the.
Speaker 2:Ability Center. We're trained all the time.
Speaker 3:You're here seven days a week, 24-7, 365. Here at 6 am carrying hurdles into the gym.
Speaker 2:I'm working on getting the apartment back there turned into just mine.
Speaker 3:I'm so serious.
Speaker 2:I'm like I would just move in there. It's nice you just got to get the water running and I would move in. I mean, if you're coming at 6 am, I mean it's basically early enough In this economy pocket.
Speaker 1:that might be the only time I get my own home. Nah, they'd retweet. It's tough. They should just create a suite for you, because you're just here all the time.
Speaker 2:There's a suite already built.
Speaker 3:Just get the water running and I'll be the way that they recognized you when we walked in. They they clapped.
Speaker 1:You might as well have that place, they broke into applause. Yeah, yeah, they did, it was.
Speaker 2:They're nice people here.
Speaker 3:I thought you were going to get like awarded some key or something. I was like damn, we should be filming this.
Speaker 1:I just know I was with her, so I was good yeah yeah, yeah, you're all right here with me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, marion's like just mention Dwayne and the. Olympics and we'll be fine.
Speaker 3:No like, seriously, this is cool Post-Olympics. Obviously, you guys were both in Paris, got to enjoy Europe, everything that has to offer. We have a lot that we were discussing pre-starting to record around food, bus trips, gear. Where do we want to start? There's going to be a lot of laughs, I can tell already during this episode. Why don't we just start? There's gonna be a lot of laughs, I can tell already during this episode. Uh, why don't we just start off by giving the first kind of thought that comes to mind when you think paris 2024 olympic games? If you guys could give a 30 second like each of your own kind of overview of the games I think I'll go first because I got there first.
Speaker 1:So, um, damn, got in off the airport, I'm like, wow, this is actually olympics, there's things prompt up and then went from, uh, where we were, to the village. Got to the village, I'm just like, well, this is like a village, like an actual concept, where there's the town and like there's street car, electric cars going around left and right, there's people from different countries, people are some wearing like either athletic wears and people are wearing more of the relaxed gear and stuff like that. Went into the place, saw the cardboard beds, saw my stuff and I'm just like, okay, well, this is how it was. So I think that going in, seeing like how much was going on and it was very colorful in the village too, like that was just very eye-opening to actually realize I'm in the olympic village. That was like the first moment, first games for eachopening. To actually realize I'm in olympic village, that was like the first moment first games for each of you two surreal experience, I'm assuming yeah, and cool that we got to do this together yeah, for sure, we talked about it yeah
Speaker 3:you guys were speed academy. Is that where you originally met? Is that what you said?
Speaker 2:yeah, so I started grade nine you were there before me yeah okay, when did you come?
Speaker 1:I came to speak at me like beginning of grade 11 okay, I feel like we were in those trenches together for yeah, but I know when.
Speaker 2:I think that was the first year we got in here yeah, yeah, that was, that was my first year yeah, so yeah, this building ability center opened when I was in grade nine and you were in grade 11 yeah, I was going to grade 11, yeah um, my first impression of the village.
Speaker 2:I would say that the best way for me to describe the village would be like four years of college packed into. However, I was there for a week and I still felt in the village for a week like I just went through four years of college, like when it was over you mean, my roommate were like packing up and you guys are emotional.
Speaker 2:No, it was. It was just so many emotions, like that was the thing I didn't know. I felt so many. I felt like ready to leave because I wanted to just like yeah all the sensory, like I just wanted to just chill for a second I was going to a hotel and I was excited to have the room to myself take like a proper shower.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean but was it not set up nice therapy?
Speaker 2:it was set up nice there, but everything just felt dorm style yeah there was, some rooms had less people, but there was six of them, which one were you in, d13 or d3? The one that was further 13, I think further away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was in that one, so that one had three, four rooms it had six people in your room.
Speaker 2:So you walk in apartment style and there's three bedrooms with two people in each, so two, four, six.
Speaker 1:I had eight, you had six, damn, I had eight. I had four rooms in mine, four rooms, two bathrooms. Dang, I wanted those bathrooms. Let me tell you All different nations. Yeah, so, no, no, no, these are all. Yeah, so, no, no, no, these are all. So. We had a Canada building, so our Canada building was D13. That was just Canadian. That was where, like we had our lounge area, d3 was split, like 75% was Canada, I think. Another one part I can't remember who was in the other one.
Speaker 2:I never. I don't even remember seeing the other country. Yeah but we were six of us, so you had three rooms, three rooms and I thought that was the max.
Speaker 3:How many bathrooms did you have?
Speaker 2:Two no.
Speaker 3:Women.
Speaker 2:We had one full bathroom.
Speaker 1:You had the half bath.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it was. It was weird. And then we have one where you could just use the toilet, and then we have one where you could shower and wash your hands.
Speaker 1:You had one where you could just use the toilet yeah, because I had two fulls, but then you couldn't wash your hands in it.
Speaker 2:You'd have to walk to one of the other ones to wash your hands.
Speaker 1:But what do you mean? So you have to go to the full bathroom to wash your?
Speaker 2:hands the full complete. And there's one, just a toilet.
Speaker 1:Nothing in it, but a toilet. How is it so? It's just a toilet, just the toilet.
Speaker 2:You can't wash your hands in that one.
Speaker 1:That's a tough answer. I don't want to say anything about French people, but I'm just saying.
Speaker 2:Look, I would walk my ass to where I could wash my hands. Did you guys have like a hand sanitizer in that which had the shower and a hand wash? So it was two bathrooms but it was split up.
Speaker 1:So there was no toilet in the full one.
Speaker 3:Yo, let's get this back on track. This was like two minutes of bathrooms.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding, it's picture two fulls, two fulls.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But the toilet is inconvenient in one of them. Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:Anyways, I didn't even know I was going. I was in d13, so yeah, so I, we had four, we had four bedrooms, she had three, yeah food, though I heard the food was rough.
Speaker 3:You were talking about it yo, honestly, the food was.
Speaker 1:I actually was looking forward to the food going into it because I felt like I felt like you know we world championships here before. In budapest the food there was actually pretty generic, world relays, it wasn't pretty bad. So a big village. I heard in beijing they had a mcdonald's in there. So I'm like, okay, so I don't think there's gonna be mcdonald's, but this was gonna be good so would mcdonald's mean the food is good, like you're hype because most I don't want to make it seem like I'm unhealthy eating mcdonald's, but I mean like you weren't gonna to be complaining.
Speaker 3:Reliable, reliability is what you're getting.
Speaker 2:McDonald's is usually where you go when the food's so bad that you have to go to McDonald's.
Speaker 1:Okay, fine, fair enough Not that McDonald's is bad.
Speaker 2:You know what you're getting, which is why people are like forget it, I'm going to McDonald's. Fair enough, the food, the food is bad.
Speaker 1:So the food was split upu. There was American, Was there American?
Speaker 2:No, there was like international, world, world, world, asian.
Speaker 1:And then there was Asia, asia, asian or whatever. So my thing was like, okay, when I first walked in I did like eight laps and I'm just like I don't know what I'm supposed to do. So when I first went into the world, when I looked at that there was pizza, all this different stuff. I just different stuff. I just grabbed pizza, fries, generic stuff, as like the second day I was there two, three days in, they said don't go to france. And I'm like what's going on? The reason for not going to france was that their, their meat wasn't cooked all the way through and apparently like that was like a french tradition, like that was like a native thing.
Speaker 2:So did people actually get sick off of that?
Speaker 1:I don't think people got sick off of it, because I don't even think people are going.
Speaker 2:I think people just see like, especially at the games, if something's like off, they'd rather you just not mess with it, especially since canada, going into paris, already had so much sickness on the team yeah, did you like how was spain, like, did you get sick at all?
Speaker 3:no, but so what happened? Why is that everyone pre-competition wrangling? Because montreal everyone was fine. Yeah, that was a couple weeks before we went.
Speaker 2:So barcelona we go, because it's our training camp before. So we went in waves and there was one big wave with most of the team and everyone on that crew was the one that was subjected to like getting sick yeah the most so that something happened on with that crew. They probably caught on the plane or there was one person, whoever. I don't know. We still don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Brought it to Barcelona. So I came like four days later knowing that the team was dropping like flies and they kept dropping. There was periods where we were like chill, but it was like a stomach bug.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like they said, like Dr Patty, like that's the team doctor we have, it was like some gastroc something. I don't even know, I'm not even a doctor, but apparently Dr Asimodo. I mean yo. If I was, I can go by Dr Asimodo though.
Speaker 3:I was going to bring it up at some point.
Speaker 1:Okay, wait, stop what okay, we'll bring it up later, but anyways, um so perfect, segue into it but that's okay.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, that's good, okay, fine but yeah.
Speaker 1:So basically, um, I I think it was the food. I think that it was just like there was a whole bunch of stuff out there that I don't think anyone had any business trying. In my opinion, maybe this is me being a picky eater, but I think it was certain food because I think, like we're all around each other together, I feel like there's no reason why I didn't get sick, or like my roommate didn't get sick. I know some people didn't get sick, but I feel like the people who did get sick were the ones who were eating all the food or trying different types of food.
Speaker 2:That's my opinion I'm trying to think. I think I like. I showed up already knowing there was something, so I showed up and kept my mask on the whole time had to like sanitize all the time because I already knew going in, I feel like there was that window where no one knew that there was sickness among us so it spread like really fast but I didn't know it was from. I didn't know if it was from the food or just like people kind of forget, there's just like general cool health yeah like that's just like yeah, but like you don't.
Speaker 1:But you don't see, even like before you don't see like a whole team getting sick like you had lauren, you had zoe, you had erin get sick. Like so many people went down morales got sick, like almost like a lot of people on the team who went in the first wave of it were like actually got got sick from this and it was like progressive too like yeah, and there was a yeah block wherever we were, like, okay, we're safe.
Speaker 2:And then I went into the village four days before my race. My race is like the second, like one of the last things of the whole olympic games. My point is I'm at the very end and me and the other hurdler so she's at the very end. She got sick right before going into paris, so like even when we thought it was over amongst canada, like it just like wasn't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it just sucks because it affects your performance yeah, let's talk about those performances before we get to dr asimoda. Let's, uh, let's, let's hear about that. Like, obviously it's. You know, four years between olympic games, but this is decades worth of work that went into this. You and I chattedatted what was it back in February. Yeah, you didn't know whether you were even going to be representing Canada at that point. We kind of had a hunch.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had a good hunch, but both of you able to put on that Canadian flag, represent the country. Can you share what it was like? Dwayne, we're going to start with you because you're the the new guest on the pod. I'm the new guy over here. The new guy, yeah, but obviously that heat number four that you were in 100 meters, a couple studs to your left and right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, tough, tough start a for your olympic career honestly, the crazy thing is is that I really felt like I actually like it was cool, like I had it the night before. I actually asked to see the heat sheet, and I don't even ask to see it on a regular basis, but I wanted to get ready. I saw the heat sheet. You know there was a lot of there's some 99 guys in there. There's some guys who I know who are great, but I felt like I was in prime position.
Speaker 1:The way the race actually went was different than the way the race I thought it was gonna go and like within like the first couple meters coming out, like I already stumbled and from that point alone I'm like, ok, I'm out of this. But then obviously the race is still going on, it's still unfolding and I'm trying to bring myself back in the race and I'm not running anything close to what I usually run cross line 10, 17. So for me I was just like whoa, this happens fast. Like when these stuff come around, you have to like you have to be on it. Like, like you have to be on it. Like I have a lot of races where, like I'm kind of like here and there, but like those races, you really just have to be ready when the gun goes. You have to be ready to respond to every single thing that goes on out there and be focused.
Speaker 1:So I mean, it wasn't my best performance out there, but it's good to know like how that's how it's like, because all the meets I've been to I've been to meet her guys have ran 99. I've ran 99 windy myself, right. So it's like just being knowing what that stage is like. Lets me know. Okay, boom. So preparation you can't have any mental lags or lapses, like you just have to be able to be regular muscle memory. So that's how it was. And definitely, you know, going into it was tough. Like I had an mri going into the olympics on. Like we left on like the tuesday, I think I had mri on the monday and, um, like there was a bunch of stuff going on outside external. But as for the performance itself, like it was a great experience. I left it all out there, but it definitely like wasn't great, like not like Miriam, miriam ran well, like you know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3:So but yeah, At least you looked good physically right.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think that's really the only thing that track gives you. You know you're going to look good physically.
Speaker 2:Honestly, yeah, that's the most you can do for yourself If all else goes wrong like I didn't look whack out there, I didn't look terrible.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, physique was right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now you got that riz coming in. Your DMs flooded, or what?
Speaker 1:No comment, no comment, no comment.
Speaker 3:Only on.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're not. We're not doing that. You know either way how much phones you have is. Instagram is one app.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but the upload quality is different. That we've established. Okay, Miriam, since Dwayne just mentioned the fact that I saw your face there, you weren't thrilled, you were a little. Still some unfinished business, but I'll let you describe. We've chatted about it. I'll let you share kind of how you're feeling the still some unfinished business, but I'll let you describe. We've chatted about it. I'll let you share kind of how you're feeling the emotions that went into that.
Speaker 1:I think unfinished, and don't be hard on yourself, yeah, because I'm here.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:We've already established that.
Speaker 2:I think unfinished business is a good way to describe exactly how I was feeling when I crossed the finish line. Exactly how I was feeling when I crossed the finish line, I went into the Olympics and it's like on paper, like in Canadian running magazine, me being like these are my goals and I didn't get them. I wanted to get the Canadian record In the spectrum of like most to most, least to most important personal canadian record, make the final, get a medal. And I got a personal best. But I didn't make the final and I didn't get the other things in there and I just knew that once you get in a final, I'm just a competitor. So I just wanted to be in as many races as possible, I just wanted. I felt like I was just like you, dwayne, like I felt like.
Speaker 2:I belonged there yeah and I still think that which is why I just feel like it was unfinished business and I ran a personal best in that semi-finals, which, yes, I am happy about, but also that's the part that hurts, that, like my best, still didn't make the final, so there's absolutely unfinished business like, honestly, I look at it differently.
Speaker 1:I think that, like, like her event, it's so, it's like it's like the hundred is hard, it's deep, but it's not as deep as her event the hurdles are super deep, I feel like.
Speaker 1:I feel like just being in, like the top 24 in the world, or just finishing within the semifinals, like that the margins are so small, like that's what everyone the world. Or just finishing within the semifinals, like that the margins are so small, like that's what everyone's running and because of hurdles, the races are so different, even the people at the top they don't even win consistently, like you have Masai, who changes hands with Jazz sometimes, who changed hands with Toby, who changed hands with um, the girl from Paris, um, which which helped, like all the races.
Speaker 2:So we had our Olympic champion, Masai. All the races after that I saw different people were winning each one. None of them were Masai, which kind of helped me realize, yes, but I didn't expect. I think I just expect to be in that mix of people who could be winning and I wasn't in the final, so I'm not in that mix.
Speaker 2:Maybe next time cards more in my favor, clean up the things, whatever. Um, but yeah, it does still feel like unfinished business for this one, but I am proud of the fact that I went to the games and I performed under pressure or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, performed on demand.
Speaker 2:That's it Our coach always says it's not what I did.
Speaker 3:It's not what I did at all. Yeah, no, it was. It is super deep. I can confirm that because for an hour we were watching all the heats going through at 3 am out in british columbia thanks for making that, and we're like man. When is miriam running? But to your point, milliseconds between the first place and the 30th place.
Speaker 1:No, this is the fastest period of women's hurdles, like ever, yeah, and the fact that I think she's in the mix, like that says a lot. Because, like I think you have to take it in totality. I look at things in, not like in a super scope, in a vacuum. I look at things from a broad sense, like this is a four-year thing. Where was Miriam four years ago? Like she wasn't making any world teams, she hadn't made a senior team, right. So then you go now flashback, and now you're in the Olympics this year, even 2022, because we had Michelle Harrison in the semis, right. That means Katie and her team was still doing well, but now Miriam was still not there at the time, right? Like she was still coming into her own at the time. So I think to go from that. Then now you look at a two-year session, olympic semi-final and she's running 12.6. Now you look at it like okay, these are big jumps being made. So I just don't see how it's like. I think it's just a motivating tool.
Speaker 1:I think even the fact that I agree I think, even like the fact that, like being close to olympic final four hurdles for the 100 meter hurdles, like that's nuts, like, like, what would you finish? What was it? 11th, 11th?
Speaker 2:hey I still gotta tell me, man, I'm a, I know I think it's sick and I am proud of myself and I I am super proud of, like the progress over the past couple years, um, because a lot of people didn't expect me to do it but I think the thing that people are like yo be proud of yourself.
Speaker 2:Your college coach told you, I know I know, I know and I debunked that, but I think the fact that I've always seen myself as the person in the finals is why I'm a little bit more upset than everybody else. I can still, still appreciate it, but I never said Mariam, you're going to the Olympics, you're a semifinalist.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay Still super happy, but I always pictured myself with metal around my neck from day one, which is a blessing and a curse, and immediate reaction. Off the track the curse part came out where it's just straight competitor.
Speaker 1:It's because you're a dog yo, I'm a dog, like, I'm super nice and all that people?
Speaker 2:I don't think people.
Speaker 1:I don't think people know mariam's a dog when it comes down to this, the competitive stuff.
Speaker 3:She's a dog, she is. There's certain people that possess that sixth gear that only a very few have, and it is a blessing and a curse because you're you're to have that for your entire life. Finley Knox, who we just released the episode with today, he talks about it. He's like, as a kid, you're set with that and it doesn't matter whether you're 3, 13, or 33. You're playing rec soccer, rec hockey, or on the Olympic stage you want to win. Oh, always Right. And you can tell when you're racing. And even if you were so close there too, and I saw, I was like, ah, I was just going through the fields can I say it behind the scenes too.
Speaker 2:Also, I was even more cheese when I did the interview. It's because I crossed the finish line in the semi-finals. I saw the scoreboard and was like you didn't make it and there's that feeling like you. You said it happened super quick. We were like, wow, I'm done now. So I'm like having that moment and a lady with a walkie talkie comes over and she says I think you might be into the finals.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's the worst.
Speaker 2:And I was like what do you mean? And she was like who?
Speaker 1:is this woman, by the way? No, literally.
Speaker 2:I just want to chat because she's doing her job. But she was like I think there's some DQs in your race and there's ways to get.
Speaker 1:I wish I found that lady after my race.
Speaker 2:She was like I think there's some DQs because there's ways to go over the hurdles improperly. So it's very obvious that people DQ if people fall or run out of their lanes. But I don't think there was only one fall, so I was like okay, it wasn't her. Like what else happened? So she made it seem like there was two people who could be dequeued and two more people would have. You know, I think I was the third man out.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So if my math's right, I I would have been in, or at least been closer, whatever like you, that glimmer of hope and there was still another heat after me. So for like 12 minutes I'm on the track thinking maybe I'm in and I'm like yeah, and then all of a sudden she goes you can go, I'm like you, I can go like it's a privilege did you sit on the the chair, the waiting chair no, I'm standing just on the track because it's happening like live.
Speaker 2:They didn't want to put me in the waiting room because I don't know, they were just figuring it out on the fly. And then she goes. Oh yeah, you can go.
Speaker 3:The fact that the fact that they had the athletes doing like post event debriefs literally seconds after you know, that was my problem as, like, I'm not even sitting there, I'm not even the person competing, but I know that I am in no shape to be on nationally televised international yeah, yeah, I know, I said cbc whatever no, I don't, I'm just saying yeah I'm not in a position to be globally broadcasted after just losing what I spent arguably my entire life competing for.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I just thought that was a miss. I think that the Olympic Games could maybe go a day after, once people have had a bit of time to wrap their heads around what just happened. But it's like hey, miriam, I know you just finished not as well as you would have liked, but can you tell us how you really feel about that race?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm just like trying not to swear on the mic. Yeah, yeah, that's how I fell after the hundred.
Speaker 1:I looked so angry because, yes, I was angry, but I was also like, don't cry don't cry, don't cry don't cry yeah just of all, like the emotions because I feel like they can do the interview when you like get your stuff through the mix zone because like, basically you go up, you race, um, like I went in the. I went in like the weight thing we have to see on the, on the, the couch thing, whatever. Then you go do your interview and then after that you there's like another media zone and then you put on your stuff and then like there's lots and there's interviews all the way along the way.
Speaker 1:It's like a huge underground and anyone can stop you from like anything like when you go up to the stadium and the stands you're walking people. Anyone can stop you on interview with you from any federation or whatever they're like.
Speaker 2:You're just like it's like you're open like wide open, I would stop for you. But each one I got progressively less hostile and I was like, yeah, I just needed like a second.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you just had the most important race of your life and it didn't go the way you planned. Yeah, but yeah, tell me how you feel, miriam. Give me everything you're supposed to give after you know 10 years of wrapping your head around what you've just put into this.
Speaker 2:Give me everything in a 20 second bite-size clip yeah, and that's the part people don't practice, but you actually should, because yeah, that's part of your, our job yeah, how do you?
Speaker 3:I see, I would not like, because you can't prepare to fail you can't, you can't, you can just prepare to interview, maybe when you fail.
Speaker 2:I think the only thing I would do differently is I only needed like 15 more seconds, I think yeah just to not look that angry. Just even a couple breaths.
Speaker 3:Honestly, there's a quarter there to be like, hey, you want to take it. I talked to him. He was like what can I was like do uh yeah and I was like what can?
Speaker 2:he was like what can I do next time, which is really nice, and I was like just remind me to give myself a second, because I was like let's go, let's do it now yeah, just want to get over with.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, honestly, which is a shame because it's your opportunity to speak to the world too, right and now, for the next four years, you get to look at that interview and be like man. I looked pissed off. I I'm gonna beat myself even more up because of the interview that I gave and like that's not good right, so I just I.
Speaker 3:I personally was like I feel bad for those athletes because it's just 14 straight days of everyone who didn't win going that post-game interview, being like I don't want to be here but I have to answer this question to the audience, and it's not even like we're making millions of dollars where you'll just catch the fine and it's like kind of drama for the next game.
Speaker 1:The fine is uh, it's very, that's a problem. The fine is the problem.
Speaker 3:The fine's the issue what was, uh, what was the like eye-opening moment for you? Was there a piece that once you realized like for you being able to get to the semi-finals obviously larger scale, having your family there was probably I can't even imagine what that was like. But land in paris, were there jitters? Were you nervous about the experience?
Speaker 1:Man, yeah, I was trying to lie to myself. I said I wasn't, I was trying to play it super cool, but I was definitely. I was so nervous. And I was more nervous because I didn't have my coach there. So even just like when you got to Paris, yeah, when I got to Paris I didn't have my coach there my coach didn't come to like the after I ran, like she got in the same time, probably after I ran.
Speaker 2:So his coach is the national team sprint coach, so he was still in barcelona training the other athletes that he's like, contractually supposed to be, but also duane is racing, so it's kind of like yeah, which one of?
Speaker 1:my kids do I, he had it was tough because of my coach. He's a relay coach, like he's the four by one women's relay coach, and you know we split everything up in waves so they didn't come until later on but I was in the first wave so they couldn't split the coaching situation up for that. He could be able to come with me and there would be athletes be able to take care of back in barcelona holding. So I just kind of had to figure out things on my own. So it was challenging getting in. So that kind of added to the jitters a bit.
Speaker 1:You want to make sure that you're prepared, because I've went to meets and performed well, like in the States and other places, but it just hasn't been the Olympic Games. So it's a little bit different to prepare and like pre-meet and you know, even when you're right to go out to know that everything's in check, like you have that last bit of confidence to start work with on an everyday basis. So that made it a little bit like stressful a little bit. I just did the best I could and that's why right now I'm not trying to beat myself up about it because of that it just it's a big, it makes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because at the end of the day, like you know, that's who I work with every single morning when I go to the track. That's who I see whether I'm hitting missing angles, cues, whatever that person had me in line. So supplementing that for another AC coach is not that it's not the worst thing in the world, but it's someone who doesn't know me, how I run and certain stuff like that. So if they think I'm doing something that's I don't know, they feel like it's wrong. It's different viewpoints on how to coach and he has to also know how it works. So those stuff made it challenging going in. But other than that, I think that like it was just really surreal to be at the olympics like you're like yo I'm at the olympics, like I'm about to run I'm not gonna lie in the morning I actually cried the morning of my race. Like I actually cried, like I'm not gonna lie, I called my coach I don't even know.
Speaker 1:It was like, it was weird, Like you know.
Speaker 3:I look good.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, my physical appearance, oh my gosh. Nah, I think it was just like. It was like overwhelming. I'm like this rush of emotion. I'm like yo, I'm about to be on the Olympic stage. I worked for all this. I'm just like yo breaking down and it's like you know, thanks for all, like you know helping me and you know all this different stuff. Like it was just a rush of emotion because, like I didn't even know I was going to experience that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, mine was after.
Speaker 3:Oh, yours was after. What was the?
Speaker 1:no, I just like. For me it's like I'm just like, I have my punching and punching up moments, so it's just like it's a choice. So when I choose a punch and it's like, okay, this is over, now it's time to be on the clock, so it's showtime it was cool.
Speaker 2:You let yourself feel that though yeah, like I don't think that would have. I don't believe in suppressing your like I would have suppressed that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely I can't, I gotta yeah yeah, no, yeah but, that's to your point you probably were better off by just experiencing it yeah, like I didn't even expect it, like just I know I'm not even a crier, I don't cry like that, like I'm not a big crier, but it's just like you realize this is like everything you've worked for, like everything you've wanted, like when you're in the base season and you're just like man, like even when you asked marion back in February, you make the Olympics. It's like you know you think you're going to make it. People tell you're going to make it, but you still you're there and it's race day and like the whole world, your families watching, people you know are tuning in, and it's like all that coming to place. It's like a dream come true in a sense, like like you know, I mean. So it's more of like those emotions kind of hit me all at once did you think you're gonna make the olympics at ohio state?
Speaker 2:no at ohio state no I wasn't even sure you're gonna keep running the track, see what I'm saying, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1:I didn't think I was going to I didn't I?
Speaker 2:sometimes I look at our old group pictures of our high school team and you can see like there's only three of us left yeah, and I don't know. I don't know, like I don't know, if I would have picked you as the one not talent wise just because, like you, never really know who wants it, because I wasn't serious, it's okay, she's actually being nice.
Speaker 1:I like this. I like this. I like this because you know, even before, she'd tell me like, oh, you're not showing up to practice, so I like this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, like show up on time, whatever. But yeah, like it's cool. It's just cool like getting to. I'm like it's just us, Like what was that their podcast where they're like funny seeing you here, or whatever they said, that's how it feels.
Speaker 1:No, but at Ohio State, like I think I was even the best on the team, I came in as a transfer in 2017. I was running like sevens in the 60s 10.
Speaker 2:Sorry.
Speaker 1:Sorry, no, get it out, get it out. You want to know what 7-0, 7-what you want to know.
Speaker 2:I just I think, I know that it's like 7-high.
Speaker 1:Okay, 7-0 something. Anyway, I wasn't running well. So you know, my last year I'm just like you know what? This is your last year. Just take it serious, you know, know, see what you can do. And then I like ran 10, 22. So then it's like, okay, well, people in Canada run around this time and make teams, so let me just hang around and see what can happen.
Speaker 1:And then COVID happened after like almost I was done school. And then I'm like, well, you know, I put in so much work, let's just see what it's like. Meanwhile my parents are like you need to work a nine to five, you're 25 years old, you need to start being serious about your life, because my parents are Nigerian so they don't play around when it comes down to the next step of life. But no, I just kept the faith. Honestly, I'm just very overconfident. Honestly, I really don't think a lot of people are better than me. So I just think that if I really put my mind to it, that I could get it done. But that didn't come until later how, what, what changed?
Speaker 1:um, I think what changed was I'm like you know what I'm losing to people. I'm not even really putting 100% in my training, but they are. So I said, if I put 100% in my training, I'll be able to beat them. And that's what started to happen. I proved myself right.
Speaker 2:I read it.
Speaker 3:Both of you got that dog.
Speaker 2:No, I'm trying to say something about me, I'm like you got it too yeah I see them the most distance is different distance is in there. Yeah, you're in your distance people.
Speaker 1:I know people. They talk, they talk, they go, they like they try talking this distance. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah they know each other really well, like they know what the other guy is doing, which, like sometimes, sprinters are so obsessed with themselves yeah it's so much ego, ego, ego.
Speaker 3:But the distance, like they know, yeah because you got it four hours to watch the other guy run beside you. You're like I know what this is, yeah like yo, he's split to 3k on a tempo, but I would be pissed, though.
Speaker 1:If I was the distance and, like I know, a guy was just gonna be on my hip the whole entire time, the last hundred just gonna beat me like that would piss me off. That's tough.
Speaker 2:Don't let him do it yeah, you gotta get your own. No, I'm gonna be on his I don't know.
Speaker 1:See, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I'm not for distance, I can't do that, I kind of like the story that happens in distance, like that's sick yeah you're literally watching this like a story unfold that woman, uh, that won, like all three distance events I can't remember her fondness on yeah she's.
Speaker 1:That's insane yeah, that's nuts. It was like 5, 10k and marathon A lot of running boy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that one's messed up Any two weeks.
Speaker 1:Right. How is that?
Speaker 2:possible, it's nasty work.
Speaker 3:It's crazy. Yeah, she's got that dog for sure. She's got the biggest dog. The biggest dog, for sure. No, I am in my distance area here I got a marathon in three weeks. Three. I did the half marathon.
Speaker 1:You nervous, no man, you don't get nervous a marathon run well, I probably will, don't get me wrong why do you get nervous so long though? That shit hurts, but you have a long time to. Okay, you're sprinting. I'm I'm nervous because yo I blink once I make a misstep.
Speaker 2:This thing is over, yeah but I think I get nervous for the pain of it. I don't get nervous when I do the whole, so do you get nervous with pain?
Speaker 3:uh, yeah, it doesn't feel good, I'm I, it's not even a nerves I, so I reference this nate zinser book. It's called the confident mind and I've like pretty much brought it up every podcast since, but since I read that book I'm like I'm pretty sure I could do whatever the heck I put my mind to you know, is it in your car? Uh, no, but I'll send it to you. Is that an audible? Yeah, that's what I listened to oh, audibles are nice I listened to it.
Speaker 3:After montreal, montreal, the calgary and then calgary so that was like and it was it's the best so far that I've read and just like something clicked, I'm like I can do this. I had a spartan race that I did that was like five hours long half marathon. A half marathon, five hours dude. It was up and down big white marathon like up and down big white mountain. Sorry for a spartan race, it was five hours long and it was like negative one or two degrees raining.
Speaker 1:This is for fun. It wasn't fun.
Speaker 3:It was not fun, but I didn't enjoy it. But it was that moment I was like I can do these kind of physical things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, okay, that makes sense, yeah.
Speaker 3:Whether it's 510, 1525k, 50k for all that is, you can do it. It's not a matter of how long.
Speaker 1:This is nuts.
Speaker 2:You can't do it, but you can finish it right. Yeah, you're capable of doing a lot more. Yeah, yeah, are you like, how are you going into the marathon? Are you like allowed to walk? Or it's like, what's your goal? I'm just going sub four hours.
Speaker 3:So I'm not a crazy like fast runner by any stretch. I was never considered a runner growing up, so just the fact that I'm doing, it I'm proud of that's good. Sub four hours. It's like a 530, 540 pace, I believe, per kilometer.
Speaker 2:So, however, you get there, as long as you get up four.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I would run at a five-minute kilometer pace right now for shorter distances, so I'm like I'll be fine, I can do that, but actually doing a full length is a long time because it's four hours at a steady speed.
Speaker 1:So what do you think about? I throw in Shibuzy oh so you listen to music during the whole entire time. I've been, yeah, so you have a four-hour playlist.
Speaker 3:No, I just listen to whatever comes on man.
Speaker 1:Oh, you shuffle it, I have a playlist.
Speaker 3:Quinn's like dude, you got to get a playlist. You got to get your AirPods. Oh, ctfl guy or something.
Speaker 1:Oh, he made a new Instagram. You know, Quinn's in my fantasy football league. Quinn's legit. I won't talk about how he's doing, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:The track community is really cool actually, you guys are tight-knit. Thanks, montreal was sick. That was my first kind of.
Speaker 2:Coming from hockey, I weren't sure if you were going to like us. Because hockey it feels like a brotherhood, very jokey, jokey fun fun.
Speaker 3:Wasn't sure how you were going to think about there's a lot of drama. Just because I have a long hair doesn't mean I'm a hockey guy, aren't you a hockey?
Speaker 1:guy. Yeah, I play hockey, but like I I've been, he looks like a hockey guy. What do you mean if I put him on like something and said like the first thing you said to me was nice flow, so you're not beating the allegations.
Speaker 1:He looks like a hockey guy. He's the new, any hockey guy. I look like I can reference some appearance. That's the hockeyist guy I meet all the time. It's like the short beard with the long hair, or it's like the long beard with a little bit of the shorter hair. It's two of the things, because the hair has to stay like that, because of the helmet.
Speaker 2:I'm a goalie, though, so I wanted to be a goalie so bad.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 2:I wasn't allowed.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was already very much deep into track. My parents were like that looks like it's going to mess up your hips. Also, it was super expensive. Yeah, definitely, and I was playing soccer rep soccer at the time too, so like you need to chill.
Speaker 1:What other sports do you guys play Yo? So I play basketball.
Speaker 3:I'm actually supposed to be in the NBA right now Point guard?
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, no, I'm just saying, you know, I actually played basketball all four years of high school. I played AAU Like I didn't start playing basketball, I mean. So I didn't start running track until the 10th grade.
Speaker 2:When you broke your foot. I broke my ankle playing basketball in grade 10. I forgot about that. Yes, I did. That's your track record.
Speaker 1:No, sorry, that was grade 11. Yeah, tony was not too happy about that. So, grade 11, I'm at a basketball tournament. We're supposed to be going to do Bounce National, which is the biggest meet of the indoor meet.
Speaker 2:For high school kids.
Speaker 1:For high school kids of the year. I have a game on Sunday. Ankle called coach on monday told him I can't come, that I didn't run for the rest of the year. But outside of basketball I played soccer all throughout growing up, so those are like the two sports I actually played. But I can play any sport though any sport come play tennis with me that's my new thing. No, you already have someone to play tennis with I said we're starting a league.
Speaker 3:There's gonna be money there's gonna be a draft ctfl. Oh, draft ctfl, I'm down. Yeah, uh, now I I always like to bring up, like past, sports that people have played, because obviously playing soccer, playing insert, any other sport is going to give you different skill sets that are going to help you succeed in life, and I.
Speaker 3:It's just rare to find people who only specialize in one thing now that are at the top I always I shouldn't say there's always exceptions to every rule, but for the most part it's people who are playing multiple things growing up that end up specializing afterwards into one yeah, I feel like track's like not a sport that you can.
Speaker 1:Personally I don't think you could do it your whole life. I just think it burns out your body. Like if you do track from when you're very, very young, depending on how you're trained, you can start lifting way too early. You can start overtraining too hard early. It's better to just do other sports, let your body adjust to itself. Soccer, you learn how to balance certain skills, changing direction or even just speeding up, and basketball, explosiveness, plyo, different stuff. Every sport has something to offer. Then, when you kind of let your body mature, is running track. That's why you see a lot of people who are good at track are late bloomers, like andre started late, I started late. Miriam's an anomaly because she's just been going forever. But also, too, she changed events. You know she used to do 400 hurdles and now she's 100 hurdles. So it just shows you that it's just something that I feel like it's not a child prodigy thing like tennis or something like that. I don't know what do you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's it, harry, uh, sorry. Uh, jerome said last week on last week's episode, he's like. Because he's said he's like man, I'm only a couple years into this training properly he's like I've been I haven't been lifting as long as all these other guys and I know maybe that's what everyone's saying but I think there's a testament to the fact that, being a late bloomer, letting your body develop, figuring out where you're actually going to be suited, best suited, maybe it's 100 instead of 400 meter hurdles, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thankfully that's a grind 400 meter.
Speaker 3:100 meter hurdles is enough.
Speaker 1:But even so, like she's almost damn near been world class at two events like 400 meter hurdles as a junior, if you had asked me, yeah, junior, if you had asked me yeah, if you had asked me a couple years ago what's your money?
Speaker 2:event 400 meter hurdles all the way really, then if you'd asked me right before I started the four hurdles. I would have said 400 yeah I did a bit of every. Yeah, it was a 400. That new balance, not just what you're talking about yeah 400. I was running the fours but then, like I would in the grade nine section, I won the 60 and the 400. Like that's just like weird yeah but then what was cool, dog?
Speaker 2:what was cool then became like a, a flaw, almost, because then I felt like I in college, I felt like I just didn't know what my main thing was so I was just training kind of whack especially, I think, with four.
Speaker 2:It was tough because it's not indoors it's not indoors and I just felt like I couldn't. The 400 and the 400 hurdles got really fast, so I felt like I had all the endurance. That wasn't really as much of an asset anymore. I don't know, I just had to. When I left the four hurdles and started the 100 hurdles in like 2020 or whatever, I had to completely like. My body has completely changed in terms of like just the energy has your dms changed too? Has the dms changed?
Speaker 1:since your body has changed, has the dms changed? I?
Speaker 2:don't know. I can't keep up with my dms right now okay try my best to reply to everyone oh, so you don't even reply.
Speaker 1:So if you reply, yo 11th in the world 11th in the world so like okay, how has your dms changed since olympics?
Speaker 2:it's honestly all the I've gotten like so much positivity in general like I just got so much love. I know you're trying to avoid in terms of like people trying to slide like that's the stuff people want, olympian.
Speaker 1:Like how does that change? Like how did that? Like when you let's talk?
Speaker 3:about like there were some canadian athletes who do have uh only fan pages that are promising, yeah, um yeah, good for them.
Speaker 2:They're gonna get paid now, exactly I don't brings up a good topic. I don't I don't think people have been trying to slide extra on me since the olympics she's lying no, I swear she's lying I've had some people that are like one person specifically. That is kind of like why you're like being like, why aren't you replying to me? That's just one person being like doing way too much so.
Speaker 1:No one swipes up and says hard eyes anything not any more than before.
Speaker 2:I don't think it didn't change.
Speaker 1:So, like your DMs after you crossed the line in the semifinals.
Speaker 2:They blew up with a lot of like oh.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to think of what's in the requests.
Speaker 2:I was just going to say yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you think like guys are intimidated because you're doing so well? I think that might be it Like.
Speaker 2:I feel like this year I haven't really got that much people sliding like that. I got a lot of people coming out of the woodworks being like, wow, so proud of you, da-da-da-da-da, not who I haven't talked to in forever. Maybe those are the beginnings of people trying to sly, but not as many, I don't think. Being like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:So then, what's your most surprising follow that you've gotten since the games? Who followed you and you're like this person followed me.
Speaker 2:Like well, who was that for you? Well, perdido started following me, okay, so like the person that made me. Want to be a hunter hurdler canadian icon she yeah, she like knows I exist, which is kind of she was shouting you out on the game.
Speaker 3:No like celebrity follows you got a picture with that italian guy? No, I actually got.
Speaker 1:So I'm into like the real housewives. I'm not into it, but like there's real housewives of lagos okay, because my parents are nigerian, so like I like all the stuff, so two of the housewives followed me, so like yeah, so you're doing better than me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was like okay, who followed you?
Speaker 3:because I want to know. No, I want you to ask, no, no because I know it's dj mz.
Speaker 1:She's trying to play it like it's modest. I already know how the DMs go for her.
Speaker 2:Look I do have some great people from out of the woodworks in the requests, but I don't know if it's from the Olympics specifically.
Speaker 1:Honestly, with the conversation we had earlier about this tennis thing, I'm judging her eye for certain things. I'm really judging my eye.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to tell you that I don't think they're that much crazier since the olympics of guys trying to slide. I think it's just you have a blue check now, people trying to have a blue check yeah, I, I've learned that.
Speaker 3:uh, going out being nice, congratulating, taking taking the conservative approach is what Mariam appreciates, based on this you think so?
Speaker 1:I think that stuff's going to just it's great friend stuff.
Speaker 2:I think, yeah, I think, I think my DMs are always got some people trying to slide. I just don't know if it's gone crazy since the I mean the mills out there. Every mill knows I have not, I can't, I haven't even opened them all yet it's a bunch yeah yeah, I'm just trying to reply to my friends first yeah, it's not yeah that's a tough problem.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I wish I had that issue. Uh yo, happy belated birthday, by the way. Thank you, yo.
Speaker 2:Happy belated birthday, by the way. Thank you, virgo gang, virgo gang, we're both Virgos.
Speaker 3:You said 26 was your best year yet and you have no doubt 27 is going to be even better. Yeah, is that what you said? Yeah, is that verbatim Quote.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would say so, Definitely 26,. Best year yet, for sure. I don't see why 27 wouldn't be any better.
Speaker 1:Because best year yet for sure. I don't see why 27 wouldn't be any better. Because 26?
Speaker 2:I mean there's years that like remember everyone keeps talking about what 2016 was the best year ever. Yeah, I think 27 will. Just, I'll get all the rewards from the work that it took to get 2026, like I made the team. And now I just feel like I'm gonna get this. All all those brand deals, the sponsorships, the easy, just the ease. You know, like we were grinding, like everything was a grind.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And, like now, I just feel like I'm just going to just float a little bit more just relax a little bit more. So work hard on the track and all that good stuff, but like just like you don't have to like, doors will open for your life anymore. Yeah, yeah, I'm fighting for my life. Yeah, that's how you got that keynote swagger now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I did a keynote speech on my birthday, you know, you get speaker and stuff like that's a guest speaker, got a standing ovation, yeah. Yeah, that was nice and I just told my story and like people want to know you.
Speaker 1:For you, yeah, I don't even want you to like. You don't have to spice things up anymore. Your life is already interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a roller coaster and it's just Like now. Y'all know so if I knock, or y'all, Don't play with me, you know Like just open the door.
Speaker 1:Or she's kicking it down, kicking down the door.
Speaker 3:Because I think I was listening back to our last episode and I feel like I didn't hit on that Texas time for you enough and maybe kind of the seasons that we were talking about there, because you know, 26 was great, 23 maybe wasn't as good and 21 maybe had its ups and downs like were there moments that you look back on, you're like, ah, that was a piece that allowed me to stay consistent, stay motivated, stay disciplined, the things that both of you kind of reflect back on as Olympians.
Speaker 3:Now that you're like I'm glad I did stick with it or I'm glad I took that extra moment and spent it with that coach or anything in particular, because our goal with the Athletes' Podcast is to educate, entertain and inspire that next gen. Obviously, when you've got two Olympians sitting here, it's like, okay, what are those pieces that, for you two, allowed you to get to that point, you know, a month ago in paris, and that you looked back on and then you consistently were able to reflect and be like, yeah, that's, that was part of the reason I'm there I think I think, um, like, it's just about not taking the losses.
Speaker 1:Personally, I think for me, my journey to get to olympics was so unconventional and I think it's just something that everyone can look at and be like. You know, it's not about where you start, it's how about where you finish, because starting from like elementary school, I wasn't even like the fastest person in the hundred. When I got to high school I didn't even want to run track because of that running track in high school I still wasn't even one of the best athletes in my age group. Damn Damn. Leaving high school I went to community college. So I'm not even a D1 athlete, d2 athlete, anything like that. My second year of junior college I didn't even have like any Power 5 school offering me. It wasn't until my season started and I ran the 100 because I'm so terrible at indoor. Ohio State actually was like, okay, this guy can run, let's go get this guy.
Speaker 1:I got to Ohio State my first year. I didn't make the conference indoor team. First year I made nationals. I didn't even make the Big Ten final in any individual event except for the 200. Leaving Ohio State it was cool, but I still wasn't even one of the best in the country.
Speaker 1:Up until two years ago, I probably wasn't even top five in the country, so it's just all about not taking the losses personally, I'm just a psychopath. If you think you're beating me, you're not beating me. You just won today. I'm going to win, I'm going to go back home, I'm going to get my stuff, I'm going to come back, but I just am relentless. I just never, ever, looked at any of those situations and was like it ends here for me, and I just think that's what I see people do. Sometimes people are in a situation where they're D1 athletes who go to a school where they play soccer and they get benched for a year or two, and now they want to transfer. They don't want to. They're making external excuses. It's all about whenever you decide that you want to give up, whenever you feel like it's over for you. That's when it's done for you, because that's the biggest thing I feel like as an athlete. I don't know, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3:Damn.
Speaker 2:I'm ready to run through the wall right now. Yeah, there's some bars in there, for sure. Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, um, mine beginning of the origin story is the opposite, where I feel like I won a bunch of stuff when I was young, won a bunch of stuff in high school to when I got to college. I went to the big d1 off rip expected expected not from the universe, but from myself. A lot of people come up to me and be like how did you do it? I'm just like I worked hard and this is the result that I got from it and I was never really super surprised because I knew that I worked for it. I think college taught me that you can work really hard. I think I said this last time you can work really hard, but that doesn't mean you're always going to get what you want, like life's just not always that fair.
Speaker 2:It's not always black and white. Because, I still was one of the hardest working people at Texas and I was not getting the results. I just wasn't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, For so many reasons, some of them being injuries, some of them, I wish I knew more about the sport to know that, hey, this way of training isn't going to work for me. I wish I knew more enough about the sport to trust my gut a little bit more, like you trusted people above you for a certain amount of time to, and they're gonna say, especially if it works for others, hey, it should. It should work for you, it's worked for all your other teammates. And I'm like, damn, yeah, it's my fault and I'm okay with taking that burden. That it's me. I don't mind if I'm the one that has to go do something, but not all of it. You know, I wish I. Just I didn't know the sport enough to know how to tweak it for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean mean it's hard to in college too, right it's hard to in college, especially when you're not like the big point scorer right, because then who's willing? And it's so weird to me how that works, where people, not just in track but in life, give stuff to the people who are the stars, when it's the people that are working right under them they need.
Speaker 2:Those are the people that need the support. They need it. I'm like you y'all we all expected me to show up here and be a superstar. It's not happening, so don't just dash me. I need yeah I need some and I just felt very much, and it's just little little things felt very much like man, like I'm not respected here and I know it because and I could see it even in practices like they make you feel like, practices like they make you feel like that though they make you feel like that and like the little opportunities go to other people just the way people listen to you in a crowd yeah it's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:I'm like, yeah, y'all really have speed goggles on heavy, and it's not about the person at all at school, it wasn't, and I had great times at texas. I had great friends. I think that's the only way I would have like made it through, because the track was just trash and trash for the standards that I had set for myself specifically. Right, yeah, that's. And that's.
Speaker 3:That's different, like because you have high expectations. We've established that.
Speaker 2:But yeah, they did match my coaches. So we all knew like wow, when we signed you, we thought you were gonna do xyz.
Speaker 1:Yeah I have one trophy yeah, I think, like my ohio state coach probably still resent me to this day because I wasn't what I was supposed to be when I walked in the building. Like when they recruit you, they spend money on you, they want you to come be as advertised, because they there was probably two, three other options they probably had. Yeah, and I couldn't imagine I was like at texas, because that's actually a track school, like they have a track. That's not a soccer field in the middle, like it's a track and field center yeah, I, always I.
Speaker 3:It's important for me and for those listening right, like I'm coaching young basketball kids now and it's like I do want to make sure that not just the top scorer gets that credit but two through nine get the same kind of recognition, because they're the ones that still need it. I was, I was number nine, getting the most improved at volleyball or whatever, and like that's what helps right and that award most improved is sick yeah literally improved that's one of the best awards to get.
Speaker 2:Like yeah, or like people that are like fifth man off the fifth man of the year like you showed up and made a difference on your team. That's sick you literally have maybe the best game, because you made a difference.
Speaker 1:I don't know I don't think people understand. Like, for example, track and field. My mom always told me only one person can win, which is why you can't beat yourself up, but there's other people who still do extremely well. So, for example, like you brought up the environment where it's like on a team full of kids or whatever you can just you have to gauge people's interest level, because the people who are really really good, they end up being the people who not, who do not see in the sport very long. Yeah, it's the ones who are like, not that good, who just have the passion, just want to keep going, keep trying.
Speaker 2:That's what, like, the actual ingredient is for building a star I laughed because I had a coach who did a test with us and it was all the things. I might have said this to. All the things that require no talent how well do you do those things? And it was all the things. I might have said this too.
Speaker 1:All the things that require no talent.
Speaker 2:How well do you do those things? And it was like do you show up on time? Do you do the recovery stuff? Are you good to your coaches? And one of them was passion. I specifically remember, and we went over it with the group to see if we were being honest with ourselves. They were all like, yeah, merms has a 10 out of 10 for passion.
Speaker 3:I the only thing I wanted out of that group was passion, that's our secret sauce.
Speaker 2:I was training with world record holders uh, olympic champions, world champions, ncaa record holders and I had 10 out of 10 for passion and I was like, how do I catch up? And I was like, how do I catch up? How?
Speaker 1:do I catch up and coach every day.
Speaker 2:I figured it out. Yeah, and coach, every day was like you'd line up, I'd line up with Kenny, and he'd be like, well, this is how far you are from the world record. And I was like damn how. And you just, yeah, you just chip away at it.
Speaker 1:The wheels start turning more, yeah, but it's driven. The oil of it is passion. Like you know what I mean. If you're not, if we weren't passionate, we could have been making money, we have degrees, we could do anything else. It's the passion that drives you to it. Like you said, we're not millionaires off track and field, so that's not what's driving us. It's about that internal passion of like I want to be great at something.
Speaker 2:I want to okay, I have a couple more questions.
Speaker 1:Dr asimov, go ahead. Yeah, what is that about doctor?
Speaker 2:I didn't. Where is, where is? What is that about? You said you were a doctor.
Speaker 1:No, no, I'm not really a doctor. I'm not a real doctor, what's? Going on like I'm not. I don't have a degree as a doctor, but I am a doctor, if that makes sense a doctor of the game, or what? Doctor of many things. Okay, just some things. You might have to ask Some things I can't tell.
Speaker 2:Literally asking him right now, maybe something I queued it up.
Speaker 3:I thought he was going to roll with it. Yeah, no, okay.
Speaker 2:So you don't have like a, because JS, another Canadian on our team, is actually about to be a doctor.
Speaker 1:See, no, I'm not about to be a doctor like that. No, no, no, like a medical doctor and he's so goofy.
Speaker 3:You're a doctor, so much fun. Dr Phil still has a degree Does he actually have a real degree.
Speaker 1:He's a real doctor. Yeah, dr Phil, he's a real doctor.
Speaker 3:Is he actually?
Speaker 1:I'm like 99. I've seen some paperwork on that. He might be like a like, yeah, like, okay, I'm more like jerry springer, doctor type of thing.
Speaker 3:There's no doctor before jerry, I'm a does mori have a doctor before? I'm mori too, oh there you go, there you go, I can do that. Okay, okay, okay. I I was ready for you to break into like, yeah, I've been studying for the past couple years and it's just like something I was doing on the side. Yeah, because that's what js is like you have a full nine to five, which was what I thought you were getting into.
Speaker 1:Yes, let me, I'll get into that, yeah, so basically I have nine to five working at light solutions. I'm really big into tech and it, internet of things. I built a computer before, so that's like my main thing. Um, outside of track um, so I help people with outsourcing benefits for companies. So, for example, if you worked for a company and you wanted to access your health care, or maybe you got divorced and you want to add your new girl on your thing, you call me, so I'm the guy for that.
Speaker 3:It's the thrill of the show we call that, oh my God, a little plug, no free ads there. Code Dwayne at checkout.
Speaker 2:How is training with the job?
Speaker 1:Man, honestly, I went on leave in February because it just gets tough, but it's just it's challenging. I think training with the job really shows you how much you really want it and you don't have time for other people and other stuff. So, friends out the window, parties out the window. If you're trying to be good, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's why I was bad for so long, because I was like friends going out parties.
Speaker 2:Priorities I'm trying to do everything.
Speaker 1:You can't do everything right. That's the thing you realize when you get old. You have to do whatever is going to make you successful, so you just have to prioritize, but you just have no life.
Speaker 3:Yo, I heard speed goggles.
Speaker 1:I didn't realize how much time, effort, energy went into your guys's glasses that you wear when you're running, like, oh, please, yeah, I mean like, I think, um, like shades is like something for me that I think I'm starting to get new into it's a it's a sick trend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a sick trend.
Speaker 1:I think it's good because, like you, can't really wear too much stuff that's gonna like do too much when you're running. You don't want to be distracted. I see Sha'Carri wears different outfits.
Speaker 2:Sha'Carri.
Speaker 1:Sha'Carri, sha'carri, sha'carri. I'm sorry, I don't want her to come at me with that.
Speaker 2:She'll come at you Better. I do it.
Speaker 3:I know, she's the one that was grilling to the right as she ran over.
Speaker 2:yeah, have you done anything like that when I crossed the finish line at Nationals, she was just barking wait till I see what I'm gonna do next year at Nationals.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyways.
Speaker 2:But yeah, and I was, I have that sick picture now. I've always wanted a picture. Yeah, you have that.
Speaker 1:I like my arms up picture that I have that one's hard too, yeah after I beat that maybe those were our thumbnails for the thing.
Speaker 2:There you go, I'll let yeah after I beat that. Maybe those were our thumbnails for the thing.
Speaker 3:Caption we look good physically. We look good physically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got that dog actually got that race in a do-rag. Yo people don't even know that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah yeah, that can't be good for aerodynamics, some things I promise you make you faster.
Speaker 1:And running in a do-rag that's tough, like I think that's one thing that I'm probably the most proud about because, like it's, if anyone knows me, that's like the most me thing to do. Okay to be a do-rag run, but also I ran freaking 1003 too, like yeah that's part of it too, like who's quincy hall without the grills at this point yeah, like you know, and that's obviously the ads you know like that's, that's hard and that's goes to the same thing with the glasses, right?
Speaker 1:so it's just like it gives you that sense of personalize yourself. I saw Miriam with glasses at the Olympics last year. I'm like yo, you know what I mean. At Worlds last year, I'm like you know what I got to spice something up, man, I'm boring. This adds something to it, and you see Fred Curley and all these other people. So glasses is like. I think it's a new wave. I don't know what else is new coming in besides glasses.
Speaker 2:We used high socks or like the shin things back in the day we did the arm sleeve era I still did arm. Yeah, yeah, yeah yo, uh, okay.
Speaker 3:Last question before we wrap up merms and pocket probably top two, top two, uh, top two names. Can we, uh, can we get the backstory?
Speaker 1:I laugh because we only call each other that yeah, you guys, this is my do, this is my DJ, this is my favorite DJ.
Speaker 2:It's my DJ Murms, you know what I mean Yo Pocket, Big Pocket, you know the origin of my nickname.
Speaker 1:I can't share on this podcast.
Speaker 3:Everyone wants to know what's in your pockets. I can only do it off the record.
Speaker 1:People want to know what's in my pockets Right now. Nothing but wait. No, I got a brush in my pocket Yep. No, I mean like people want to know what's in my pockets. Like I said on my post, you guys just don't get it.
Speaker 2:You're just like a wait and see type thing.
Speaker 3:Like the doctor degree, yeah, it's coming, it's coming, I mean yo it's coming.
Speaker 2:I feel like whatever's in the pocket you don't see until it's in your face, like damn. I wish I saw that coming. Okay, but how many parties have you DJed? None, because the DJ for me also a name of mystery, because there's lots of different origin stories out there. But, to me. I feel like it's just a vibe setting at this point, like I'm just going to bring the vibes. People have their origin stories. You're going to show out with something that you least expect it Like what's in his pocket, what's up the sleeve?
Speaker 1:you don't know it's popping arms.
Speaker 2:She's gonna bring the vibes you do bring the vibes.
Speaker 3:Thanks, this is wherever you go. You do do that. Um, yeah, no, this is dope, this is fun. I've learned a lot, man this is cool.
Speaker 1:You learned a lot about tennis. Did you learn a lot about tennis?
Speaker 3:today I learned about tennis, for sure. I told you already uh, you're gonna learn a lot about my nickname.
Speaker 2:I pocket doesn't work, it's not yours. Maybe something hockey, really, that hockey guy, no, no, no, it'll come you liked the flow though yeah, the first thing as soon as I called as soon as I got out of the crowd.
Speaker 3:I was like, oh, what we call you flow man. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:I thought big flow big flow, oh, big flow, that's it.
Speaker 3:That's kind of I just have a one in there. I don't know, we'll see, we'll see if it sticks.
Speaker 1:Big Flo with a one in there. We'll see if it sticks. All right, yo, it's Big Flo. Dj Mermz, can you start calling? Hey, we're not. We're not doing that, we'll ask you to we're in a different era. Right now, there's a lot of stuff going on In social media and social justice. Right now, we're not gonna go for that.
Speaker 3:We should ask the the people watching, whether they like Big Flo. What was the other one that is?
Speaker 1:That might be.
Speaker 2:Big Flo.
Speaker 3:I don't know Big Flo Yo audience. Let us know if you're feeling it.
Speaker 2:Let them know if you're feeling it.
Speaker 1:Let him know if you're feeling the big flow with the one, big flow with the one. Look at the hair, look at this guy.
Speaker 3:You're telling me, if you put him on a hobby you look like a black woman with a silk dress. If you put him on a commercial right now, shake it.
Speaker 1:If I put him at a backdrop, with the Vancouver Canucks in the background, and gave him the mic, you would think he played for them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Now we'll just drive 10 minutes go to Oshawa.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:See what the kids say in Oshawa.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true, we'll just go through the streets. Yeah, in the schwa.
Speaker 2:Those will be the best judge of you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean we're all good because we're with Big Flo, nothing's going to happen. We're good.
Speaker 2:No, that's.
Speaker 1:We're with Big. Flo I already like it. I think it's the one Big flow. Oh man, We'll see.
Speaker 2:I'm about to change that. You got to love it too. I don't hate it.
Speaker 3:Okay, I just don't know whether I necessarily Big flow Listen it's all about the aura You'll become it.
Speaker 2:It's all about the aura. Yeah, you're giving it Like it's tough you gotta make it work for you one day I I actually will, but you know what I mean when you're a doctor, I'll be a dj, but, like you, if that's the aura you're giving, own it and you'll become a big flow.
Speaker 1:You gotta own the flow. You're acting like you don't spend money on that.
Speaker 2:Products on the hair and even if you don't have the flow, it'll just be part of the aura it's uh there, chippy.
Speaker 3:Have you guys heard of Coach Chippy?
Speaker 2:I have a best friend. I call Chippy actually, but no, who's this?
Speaker 1:You have a best friend, Chippy.
Speaker 2:I call her Chippy yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, go on. So, coach Chippy is all about style and flow, not thinking too much.
Speaker 1:Jeez. So there's more. It's a deeper meaning.
Speaker 3:He's in Barry.
Speaker 1:He's too much, so I'll take it. Oh yeah, we'll see, let's see it. And then you could you know what the line is. You go, girls, I'm a kid be your BF, and you're like oh yeah, well, you're like, nah, big flow, you're like. You like yo I don't know what you think of my boyfriend talking about you, gotta, but if they go for that, then you could go for that, depending how you feeling.
Speaker 3:You're feeling you're big flow I'm set, you're good, I'm set. I didn't think I was coming to whippy and getting relationship advice, but now I'm big flow, big flow in, I think it's sick, I think.
Speaker 2:Think that when you're in your marathon, and you're hitting oh yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 1:That's another thing, just means like don't play with me, don't play like I'm that guy like when you're about to line up, like when I tell, look at myself in the mirror. I'm like it's it's big park, it's time to go.
Speaker 2:You have your hands in so many different things exactly you do so much that's like you gotta own it.
Speaker 1:That's your, that's your confidence. You're running a marathon.
Speaker 2:You're an agent, you have a podcast yeah, what else are you not doing? Weekly you showed up in the in a renovated Star Wars bus.
Speaker 1:You said you were going to come to Nationals. Can we talk a?
Speaker 2:little bit about the bus, and you didn't just talk about it, you did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 3:We do have to do stuff. You got to be able to have a story to tell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and just to show up for people. You said you would be there and you were.
Speaker 1:Man of his word Big flow.
Speaker 3:Big flow. Keep doing that, if you guys like it.
Speaker 1:Tag him and just call him Big Flow. Tag him and just say Big Flow.
Speaker 2:I think I mean, maybe I'll just spam your Instagram with just comments.
Speaker 1:I'm getting it going Big flow. He goes by Big Flow.
Speaker 3:It could work. It could work my old nickname the biggest.
Speaker 1:That's not. That's not, it, we're not we're not.
Speaker 2:We're not. Yeah, you're not that guy. A lot of us are not who we used to be I've definitely progressed since my golf days. Yeah, see what I'm saying. Yeah, you're big, can you teach me how to golf 100? I actually I'm serious my girlfriend's boyfriend.
Speaker 1:He I'm like whoa, my girlfriend's brother. That was about to be all different oh yeah yeah, my girlfriend's brother he's been kicking my ass, so I need to learn how to. I got you I got you.
Speaker 3:We're gonna start this thing where we people who we have on the podcast, we go out and like train, whether it's on the track, for instance doing what you guys do, or like go in the swimming pool with finley or you know, whatever the case may be. So it's like a plan big flow yeah, big flow got the plants when in whitby, you know you gotta make stuff happen for sure, and if it's not in whitby, it'll be in ajax or oshawa, but we'll keep highlighting incredible folks like you on the pod and uh, thank you guys for coming on.
Speaker 2:This is fun yeah, maybe too much fun, almost yeah, there's so many more questions that went well, what do you?
Speaker 3:what should we talk about if, if you had five minutes left? Is there anything else you guys want to go through right now? We?
Speaker 2:had a whole list. I guess we did the food, we did the rooms.
Speaker 3:I think the air conditioning, oh, people wanted to know about the air. Big bus problem, no flow, oh.
Speaker 2:But then we no, yeah, no airflow super quick, rapid fire, I'll do the bed okay. So, yeah, you go do the beds. Okay, the beds in the olympic village. I had absolutely no problem with them, I showed up.
Speaker 1:Could you have jumped on the bed if you wanted to?
Speaker 2:I have saw people jumping on the bed. I think I could have jumped on the bed I remember, like standing on the bed and it was fine, um, but I didn't want to jump on it because I didn't want to remake it if I had to, because it was nice that I showed up and it was already made for me.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they did have it there.
Speaker 2:Canada had mattress toppers for us, so I didn't feel like I was on a cardboard bed because we had mattress toppers. A country that didn't. I feel like it probably would have been uncomfortable because it is a cardboard bed. Also, if I was anything bigger than 5'4", however many pounds probably would have been uncomfortable cardboard beds.
Speaker 1:Air conditioning.
Speaker 2:There was none. Well, okay, no, they actually gave us the air condition. That's like canada was that?
Speaker 1:yes, sorry, they gave us portable ones that we actually had to set up on our own.
Speaker 2:Not every country had them, though canada paid for that oh yeah, so canada paid for them.
Speaker 1:We had to set them up on our own and it's like this elaborate thing where they went through the door. So you have to have, like, basically vacuum seal the door, have this thing going out, and that's how your ac is on I didn't set it up and if you, and, if you like, there's like the thing that went outside if that somehow was not all time that was inside your room is getting flooded and, yes, that happens. Some of the guys on the team yeah, they were, they're not contractors that's the first thing, I'm not a blue collar woman.
Speaker 2:I woman, I'm not doing this.
Speaker 1:They literally said there's a video in the app to set it up and I watched the video and I did it wrong.
Speaker 2:The way I had no brain capacity to do anything other than eat and run in that time. That's what you're there for, though, yeah.
Speaker 3:The more I hear about this. I wish there was. I'm glad you're bringing it up.
Speaker 2:The village had so much stuff I don't even know about it.
Speaker 1:I believe they would have had someone to come fix it. Yeah, they did. Yeah, I just didn't, I was just like I don't care, just embraced it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we had a huge window in my room. It was a vibe okay. And last thing, the lulu gear. What do you think about it? Uh, the lulu get it. That's we're rocking the lulu. Yes, what do you?
Speaker 2:think about the lulu gear lulu gear was a jump scare when I first saw it, because everyone's used to Lulu being very minimalist, so we expected minimalist. We had another team that Canada sent track people super minimalist, very Lulu oh you're talking about Pan Ams, pan Ams, so when I saw all the gear for the Olympics I was like whoa.
Speaker 1:It was a lot. I was like why it was advertised, because whenever we get gear for teams, I'm like yo. This is nothing.
Speaker 3:When we we get gear for uh teams.
Speaker 2:I'm like yo, this is nothing. When we got gear for the olympics, I'm like this is close, yeah, yeah, and they hooked up with a lot of stuff. That's the thing.
Speaker 3:It was a lot of stuff and about the patterns they're growing on me. They actually are. It did at the beginning they were.
Speaker 2:It was a lot because they tell you how to wear certain things.
Speaker 1:So opening ceremonies yeah, like how the outfit, how the outfit shows, yeah pattern shorts pattern thing when you wear them individually.
Speaker 2:They start to grow on me now the opening ceremony bomber jacket I almost put that on today.
Speaker 1:I feel like I can't put it on. I think it's too much, I think it's too nice, no, like too nice. Oh no, I'm trying to just wear it but like it's just like a fall thing that would have gotten us in anywhere. You realize that yeah like, do people recognize you in Olympic stuff? Do they tell?
Speaker 3:Yeah, this guy, this guy, yes, they would, yeah To answer your question.
Speaker 1:Well, I went up to Demetri's after Olympics and some guy's like did you go to Olympics? I see all the stuff.
Speaker 2:I said nah, this is just. I bought it from someone. Don't say that.
Speaker 1:I got it from To tell people I didn't know it was sold out.
Speaker 2:They sell it. You could have gone into.
Speaker 1:Blue Lemon at the mall. You at the Canada House. Let me tell you this you went to the Canada House right, Right outside the friends and family thing. Everything we're wearing is on sale.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's different. Everything we have different logos, but it's at a distance. That's why he asked you, because, because you could have just bought the jacket. And that's why I told him I bought it. It was a $300 jacket allegedly on sale.
Speaker 3:You see the Fun Guy hoodie that I was rocking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah Was it a.
Speaker 3:New Balance one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they sent me it with the shoes that I'm wearing for the marathon.
Speaker 1:Oh sick.
Speaker 3:And then I had someone hit me up. They're like yo, where'd you?
Speaker 1:get that hoodie. I can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the fuck. That's a Kwan sweater, that one. They don't make that one anymore. I've been looking for that that guy yeah.
Speaker 3:That's actually thanks to Miriam. We're still working.
Speaker 1:We're cooking underneath, Okay okay, I see what you guys got going on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a lot, but you know it is.
Speaker 2:That's sad. Fix ioc. Let's get the ac please in order for all the countries, for all, especially if it's a money issue, make it accessible to the countries that didn't want to pay for it. Some people were hot also.
Speaker 3:Give the athletes more money, yeah yeah, that's just a never-ending issue always. But you probably have seen now with other athletes, nil getting a bit more down in the states yeah, I need reparations. Diamond League what's that other league that's coming, the Grand Slop track.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it Athlos. What's the? Athlos, the all-women track meet that just happened the other day 60K for the winner. Yeah, it was yesterday. I'm really not watching track for real anymore, I just watched the hurdles, it was nice.
Speaker 3:It's coming.
Speaker 1:We're working on it Because we're with Big Flow right now. We're working on everything, yeah.
Speaker 3:Hey, there's a lot coming, but that's why we do this on a weekly basis. We showcase people like yourselves and it's coming. We're going to make it happen and then think about, like you said, what's changed over the past five years, what's going to happen over the next five? Right, we'll have this same conversation after LA. You guys are both going to have medals around your necks.
Speaker 2:That was my question.
Speaker 1:You're going to the next one yeah, next Olympics I'll be going to the next Olympics. I'll go, I'll be there.
Speaker 3:Miriam told me she was going to LA before she even went to Paris.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Because she's just Miriam's just a crazy person like that. Miriam told me she's never going to stop running.
Speaker 3:She didn't say that she did say that she told me she was going to start picking up golf and other stuff too.
Speaker 2:No, literally. And then I was like I need to ask you, Teach me how to. I can play golf forever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the best LA. Look out Snoop, I'm coming.
Speaker 2:Snoop. I got to meet Snoop I got to avenge Drake's loss.
Speaker 1:So I'm coming to LA to take this very, very, very personally, very personally. I hope you hear this, kendrick. I take this very, very personally. It's not a game. It's not a game, sir. I wait four years for stuff. I'm not an impulse guy.
Speaker 2:Drake will give you a key to the city. For that.
Speaker 1:Oh, don't worry, we're going to get some medals on LA's turf. They know that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's sick. There you go, big flow.
Speaker 1:Hopefully OVO. Maybe you guys can sponsor for the next one, Maybe you guys give us some opening ceremony stuff.
Speaker 2:That'd be cool.
Speaker 1:Damn Hook us up OVO Come on Drake.
Speaker 2:I'm shouting to say Something. Did that Skateboarding is sponsored by OVO?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Because I met a skateboarder, actually a Canadian skateboarder, and they had like OVO apparel, like that was their thing. I'm like yo, what's going on?
Speaker 2:Yeah, interesting, damn Interesting, interesting, Did you?
Speaker 3:watch the breakdancing oh.
Speaker 2:Yo Phil.
Speaker 3:Wizard was yo. Phil wizard was good though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, canadian anyone goals he was. She was not good. I heard she did it on purpose. Apparently she didn't. That's her talent level, no they. And she also came out as like getting ranked number one again recently because I did the, did a deep dive.
Speaker 2:Her husband her husband was on the committee that shows husband her husband was on the committee that shows who's on the squad and they just made the ruling system like it's very break dancing. It was kind of like skateboarding that if you bring this like like underground, like out of not like anti, like rules thing into a sport like that's, people are gonna have lash against it. So they put all these like rules people didn't agree with, people didn't even want to turn it into a sport like. This is our culture, it's not a sport.
Speaker 2:So some of the best some of the best didn't even show up. It's an activity, a hobby, and then her husband was on the committee and then it cost money. So people who are into this kind of stuff that can't afford it, break't and it's all break dancing expensive.
Speaker 1:How you just dance. No, no, no, not break dancing to go to the competitions and all the stuff to qualify.
Speaker 2:So if you had money and if I, if the I guess the selection committee was your husband, then you might make the team yeah, I heard there was some shady shit going on yeah, it was just wow sucks because it probably took out someone who had actually worked really hard, who wasn't. Yeah, you could go on the street in New York and find somebody better than her.
Speaker 1:What was she doing? She was doing like some flick thing. I know I could have probably been in that if that was a thing.
Speaker 2:Ray Gunn was her name. I think I could have been doing two things, ray Gunn.
Speaker 3:Ray Gunn, that's a tough bounce. She received some backlash online.
Speaker 1:We won't, and in turn, they took it out the next olympics. So yeah, yes, they did yeah but you know what?
Speaker 3:your events aren't going anywhere.
Speaker 2:No, we're actually starting the next olympics, I think oh, did hear that because you guys ending it.
Speaker 3:It's kind of weird. Both we always end, fortunately, both you and hannah, though we're on the same day at least, so I only had to wake up once at 2 am. Just grind through it, but it was worth it because it was cool. It was pretty. Lander and I were both pretty emotional just being able to do that. So, yeah, no, it was cool and excited to watch it over the next three years before LA. Yo Dwayne, thanks for coming on the pod man.
Speaker 1:No, big deal deal, big flow.
Speaker 3:You know, this is dope, this is dope and uh yo, next time we'll have to get out on the track yo, we should do something.
Speaker 1:We gotta see you run. Yeah, you gotta see the tech.
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna be fast yeah, he was like I wanted to see you guys, right, if I, if I see the a runs, I just know 10, 10 high.
Speaker 3:10 high, no, 10 low you're going to.
Speaker 1:You're under 11, that's good. No, that's all you need to go. As long as you go under 11, we're good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, sure, yeah uh, maybe in the 40. Uh, come on, dog, you see me. Uh, we'll see. I don't know, we'll find out. Miriam's laughing.
Speaker 2:She doesn't know what to do my golf will probably be just as bad as you're running, so we'll both. I don't even think he looks like he can run. I think you're faster than anything listen, I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm like a train. It takes me a while, but once I'm up hey, I'm not, I'm not quick I know you.
Speaker 1:When you said you had a slow start, I was like we got something calm see, but I think I think your slow start is like my best start so I hope, so, I hope so, I hope so for my sake, yeah, yeah yeah, no, we'll find out though next time.
Speaker 2:Thank, you guys, this is fun yo 244 on the show.
Speaker 3:Uh, thank you guys. This is dope thank you big float.
Speaker 3:That was the 244th episode of the athletes podcast. Thank you, folks, for tuning in, sticking around this long. Use the code ap20 at chico to save 20 on perfect sports supplements, the best protein in can. And a big shout out goes to Dwayne and Miriam for coming on the show sharing their stories, the insights man. I am sincerely grateful for what I get to witness and experience on a weekly basis thanks to this incredible platform, and it wouldn't be here without you folks who continue to listen, watch, share, subscribe. It sincerely means the world to me and I'm excited for what's to come, because we're five years in. People don't know what's coming next and we got a lot on the go. So thanks for being a part of the journey. I promise you won't be disappointed and we'll see you next week for another new episode. Hope you have a great rest of your day. Bye.
