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3 x Olympian Liz Gleadle's Innovative Approach to Athlete Development - Episode #249
Three-time Olympian and motivational speaker Liz Gleadle joins us for the second time on the show for an insightful conversation about her groundbreaking holistic approach to athlete training. Here is the link to her course:
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The first module, Foundations, is free.
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Discover how Liz's innovative course integrates physical, mental, emotional, and social elements to unlock peak performance. Through her personal journey, Liz challenges the status quo by advocating for emotional intelligence and resilience, especially for young male athletes, and sheds light on why traditional training methods often miss the mark.
We journey into the heart of emotional intelligence, where Liz emphasizes the transformative power of recognizing and embracing negative emotions. With engaging discussions on diversifying physical activities like parkour and dance, Liz illustrates how reconnecting with primal movement patterns can enhance both physical and emotional readiness. Her insights push us to rethink our modern lifestyles and the crucial need to incorporate foundational movement skills into our routines for overall well-being.
The conversation gets practical as we focus on mindset and the power of daily habits. Liz introduces the concept of the "minimum effective dose" and the Daily Wins system, demonstrating how small daily achievements can lead to significant personal growth. As we explore strategies for balancing enjoyment and performance, including the effects of alcohol on athletes, Liz shares captivating stories from the Olympics, offering a nuanced perspective on maintaining professionalism while celebrating success.
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Speaker 2:Enjoy the show. You're the most decorated racquetball player in US history, world's strongest man, from childhood passion to professional athlete, eight-time Ironman champion. So what was it like making your debut in the NHL? What is your biggest piece of advice for the next generation of athletes, from underdogs to national champions? This is the Athletes Podcast, where high-performance individuals share their triumphs, defeats and life lessons to educate, entertain and inspire the next generation of athletes. Here we go. Tell the listeners what we're getting into today.
Speaker 1:What are we getting into today and viewers, not just for those on YouTube. Listeners and viewers.
Speaker 2:Athlete agreement. Just don't forget, it's a thing.
Speaker 1:Are you going to introduce me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we do that in the intro normally, but this is your second time on the show, liz Gledel, so I can do a quick introduction. Three-time Olympian motivational speaker, chef.
Speaker 1:What else. He likes my food.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, we. This is. This is good. This. You've got a new course coming out. Yeah, you have unlocked what you claim is the best you've ever felt in your life. Right, yeah, and you took me through a workout last week at the parkour place what was that called? In Vancouver?
Speaker 1:Origins parkour. We should shout them out origins.
Speaker 2:Thank you for the great. And so now we're learning about this course, we're learning about everything else and we got to give the listeners what they want. Yeah, a little tidbits.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I started this course and I've. It's about holistic high performance, and holistic is not woo. Holistic means everything is working together to create something that is greater than the sum of its parts, and a lot of athletes obviously do mental training now and I've realized that's really. I did lots of mental training for years and I've realized that that's just one pillar of performance and we often overdo it in physical training and then we start to do more and more in mental training.
Speaker 1:And then I personally overdid it in mental training. I was meditating an hour a day. I was really regimented, I had everything down and once I had an epiphany about the role of play and the role of fun, I realized that we don't train athletes emotionally and we don't have enough emotional literacy to not regulate our emotions but to harness them.
Speaker 2:Wait, are you suggesting that we've been doing it all wrong as a society for the past?
Speaker 1:Not doing it all wrong. It's that it's led to an evolution. There's always something that's the next thing, and you build on what everyone else before you has taught you. I'm so grateful for everything I've learned from everybody I've learned it from, and the reason we do that is because we want the next generation to figure out something even more. That's how technology evolves. That's how everything evolves.
Speaker 2:It's what the athletes podcast is here for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so the course that I created is about the things that we often don't look at or we don't understand deeply enough to do effectively.
Speaker 2:Like what.
Speaker 1:Like well, even mental training. So I actually start out. I say there's four pillars of performance. There's physical, mental, emotional and social.
Speaker 2:This is the house reference that we were referring to before.
Speaker 1:Yes. And if you have four pillars, if you want to build a house and you only build one pillar up really high, you don't do any mental training well then you're building a shelter. Pillar up really high, you don't do any mental training well then you're building a shelter. You're only building one pillar. You can throw a roof over top of it, but it's at an angle. If you build up the mental a little bit, it's still kind of a shelter, and you can build up those pillars as high as you want, but the roof is kind of like this thing that represents consistency or total sum capacity. Think of it as a volume thing, and the more you actually build up the other two, the emotional and the social, the easier it is to erect a house and then actually build a second level.
Speaker 1:And the biggest thing I like to say is Pareto's Law is really important. It's a concept that 20% of the work gets you 80% of the results. The question is really, though what's the 20%? And we obviously need to do a ton of work in physical. If we're trying to be athletes, we're trying to build all the way to 100. But if the first two if emotional and social aren't built for that 20%, then we're not getting the biggest bang for our buck. We're spending way too much energy on things that don't have a high return on investment.
Speaker 2:But, liz, my coach told me that after I graduate, I should just focus on school and my sports and not worry about girlfriends. And I need to focus, make sure that all my attention is towards this and I can't have social relationships. What do I do?
Speaker 1:Yeah, remember my coach said to me don't get a boyfriend, because if he breaks your heart you're not going to be able to train properly. And the reality is we don't tell people don't do this, because it'll hurt you. What we should be doing is saying, hey, this is a normal part of life and we need to know how to handle it well, so that you have the base training available to be able to handle harder and harder challenges. We need base training physically, mentally, emotionally and socially. And again, if we don't train those skills, if we don't have basic emotional literacy, how are we supposed to figure out what we're feeling and how we want to feel and how to get there.
Speaker 2:Maybe you guys can relate. I didn't necessarily feel a lot as a young male. I've just got a bunch of testosterone running through my veins. I'm like I'm going through. You know. Yeah, how do you suggest a young adolescent male? You know, I've got a cousin, for example, who's 16, 17, 18 years old. Like, yeah, how do you tell them hey, get emotional man no.
Speaker 1:So it's not about being, it's not about getting super in touch with your feelings. It's about understanding First of all, like, say, starting with understanding that negative emotions are not bad things. They're just trying to tell you what you don't want, and the next step in that so that's the negative emotion is very like primal thing. Then we have we have a prefrontal cortex, and that allows us to say, okay, let's logically think about this in negative emotion. And then what it allows you to do a negative emotion is what do you want to run away from? What do you not like? And that could be in any direction. The question is then what is it telling you that you actually want to run towards? And that's the part that we need to start thinking about.
Speaker 1:So if you are incredibly frustrated, you're not progressing, or you just feel angsty and you're just working harder and harder and things aren't working, frustration is actually telling you that what you're doing is not working and you need to try something different. So then you have to say, okay, well, what would trying something different look like? How would I feel if I had something new that was exciting to me? Maybe I just want to feel excited, and you can start looking at that as understanding. What emotions would I rather experience? And so how should I set up my training environment or how should I talk to my coaches and my teammates, my other people differently, and myself, to make myself feel that emotional state?
Speaker 2:Yeah, setting yourself up for success, right.
Speaker 1:Basically, and that's the basics of it, it's not about everything being love and peace and harmony, like that's great and for some people that absolutely works. If you're an O-lineman, you need a little bit of anger and you also need to understand that it's also about love in the way that you love your teammates and you're trying to do something together and understanding that that anger is almost righteous anger, so to speak. And then it becomes a mixture of emotions, becomes an emotional cocktail that you can tap into if you understand it more deeply. It's like an actor. If you don't know the difference between furious angry and, I don't know, outraged, like enraged, well then, how are you going to play the different characters? How are you going to play the different emotions? And it's understanding that nuance, just diving into what would be right for you, what would give you the best performance.
Speaker 2:Which is something I preach, especially for young athletes, because we don't taste enough. We specialize at the age of six now, and sad yeah right, it is specialized at the age of 34 but that's honestly what we should be like. I started running, I lift weights. I now do parkour bi-weekly, whenever that happens a little rope flow yeah right.
Speaker 2:But I think you know those are things that we should be doing from a young age. And then you're like, okay, based on the fact that I grew to 6'8", maybe I should play basketball or volleyball right, like getting those foundational primal movements that you were talking about with those functional movement patterns. You know those are essential. That should be kind of mandatory movements that everyone's able to do. You'd think, right, you would think so if you were to design a school system, maybe a course.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, yes, please.
Speaker 2:Maybe this is like you know.
Speaker 1:This is a little bit of part of my course.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so let's dive into that.
Speaker 1:So if I was to redesign javelin throwing all over again, if I could do it all over again, I would do gymnastics for a really long time. You understand how to throw, how to tumble, how to rotate, how to spin, how to hang.
Speaker 2:I always said, if I have kids, that's the first thing they're going into.
Speaker 1:Yeah, humans evolved from monkeys. We hung, and that's how our arms stay strong. They're over our head all the time, but now people never put their hands over their head unless they're doing a certain overhead exercise. I put my hands over my head over the time because I'm throwing, but that makes a huge difference and we don't pendiculate, which means we don't swing. Swinging is the coordination pattern of our upper body and it's like running. Swinging is to the upper body as running is to the lower body. And then the other thing I would add is getting people to understand that dance, but not having to do choreography. Understanding that rhythm, having a sense of rhythm, helps you learn anything.
Speaker 2:Feel the rhythm, feel the rhythm, feel the rhyme.
Speaker 1:Feel the rhythm, feel the rhyme. That's very important.
Speaker 2:You've seen Cool Runnings right? Yes, I have.
Speaker 1:But it makes such a difference. So what I started doing was I started dancing because I wanted to learn how to dance. I remember I went down to Trinidad and I saw people doing these very simple dance moves, but I couldn't figure out how they were linking them.
Speaker 2:figure out how they were linking them.
Speaker 1:And then my training partner and Olympic champion from 2012,. Kishore Walcott, looks at me and he's like just bounce, yeah, and I thought bounce. I don't know how to do that very well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I looked uncoordinated AF when I was trying to bounce with you last week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we don't understand this concept of creating this. We're using gravity and momentum. Bouncing is literally just understanding gravity. It's the first thing that babies do. They start bouncing to music. They start kicking their legs. It's what they do to test gravity before they walk. And as an adult I didn't know how to bounce and this is something. It's a lost skill and it's not hard to redevelop, but it is a foundation of dance. So bounce helps you understand gravity and spin helps you understand momentum. And when you start understanding gravity and momentum cause, you're paying attention to them in simple ways. Then it went non-complex ways. Then you feel safe. If you're trying to throw a javelin, you're worrying about a lot of things To think about gravity, momentum, throwing a stick, not crossing a line, getting into all these crazy positions you're making an incredibly complex choreographed movement Right and bounce is the foundational unit for understanding gravity.
Speaker 2:Movement right and bounce is the foundational unit for understanding gravity, and then the progress, or the progression would be then to like a rope flow.
Speaker 1:Then, once you've got that, yeah, I mean you could add rope flow immediately. I think bounce is rope flow helps you understand the connection of energy between your hands and it helps you understand how your core creates energy, how your spinal engine creates force and then how to throw it out from your hands and how your hands are related. Rope flow is a dance move within itself. I was coaching yesterday and all the kids are rope flowing and I did imaginary rope flow. So it looked like I was rope flowing but I had nothing in my hands and it looked like every part of my body was coordinated. Rope flow is incredible. It's a very simple tool, but the rope doesn't lie. If it's jerky, if it smacks you, it's because you don't understand how to coordinate your limbs relative to your body. It's humbling, it is humbling, it is humbling it's very humbling.
Speaker 2:You can't muscle your way through it no how, uh, what other like modalities were you ahead on? We talked about. One of the things that you left us with on episode 62 or 65 of the show when you first came on was your emphasis on sleep and how you would have prioritized that more if you had known the benefits of it when you were younger, and I'm curious what you did to incorporate that more now.
Speaker 2:What you do you're not wearing the whoop anymore but, like you talked about, you know certain things that definitely don't lead to a good sleep. Uh, what are some other things you set yourself up for for success?
Speaker 1:in relative to sleep.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Relative to sleep Uh don't eat, don't eat two hours before bed. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's, that's a really big one.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Don't eat two hours before bed, don't stare at your phone, dim your lights. I think dimming the lights is something people underestimate. I love, I hate overhead lighting, yeah, and that makes anything that you can.
Speaker 2:Oh, have you seen this? I have not.
Speaker 1:Mouth tape. You can give me some.
Speaker 2:I have not Mouth tape. You can give me some. Yeah, okay, this is yours. Thank you A little, asmr, for those who are listening.
Speaker 1:Oh no, they sent me a bunch. Oh nice, nice, so you don't peel off your lips.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very nice, it's also a clutch, cause, um, it's a stretchy fabric. So for me, cause I constantly mouth breathe at night, it can still stretch and I don't actually die, you know, from not breathing, yeah, so I started with duct tape. Now we're at a much better state for my sleeping. But I interrupted you, that's okay, because I was just like grabbing stuff.
Speaker 1:I think the main thing, the thing that I still struggle with, is that my brain goes crazy at night, partially because I'm building this huge course and I'm I'm just wrapping my brain around all these different ways. I want to look after it and the biggest things that we don't give ourselves any time to decompress and have non specific directional thoughts, and so what I'll do a lot of the time is I'll turn off the lights and I'll lay on my living room floor and I'm not meditating, I'm just letting myself think and let my brain go wild, and sometimes I'll have a pen and a paper beside me and I'll just write point form notes, because my brain now knows that if I really want to come back to it, it's saved for tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Just unpacking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it doesn't have to make sense. It doesn't have to be a to-do list. It can be something that you're worried about, but even just writing down the acknowledgement that you had the thought often makes it. So your brain says, oh okay, it's okay, We've. We've saved, saved it for later. Now's not the time to problem solve. It's not sitting there piling up.
Speaker 2:It's it. I would equate that to like having your emotions bottle up and then unraveling them to a parent, friend, family member, whatever right. Like yeah, interesting, I like that, so okay, so I'm going to sit on my living room floor.
Speaker 1:Literally just lay down. Stare at the ceiling.
Speaker 2:I do. I also. I try and go an hour before. No overhead light, no tech blue light blockers on.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Have my nighttime tea. Athlete's apothecary bedtime, you know it's the best. Anything else. The no eating two hours before is big.
Speaker 1:It is really big.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's tough for me, though, trying to eat more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean there's also some really good evidence around your GH gets boosted if you don't eat before bed.
Speaker 2:Yes, this is true, so this is about eating more earlier.
Speaker 1:Yes, this is true, If you can fast like I used to eat two meals a day, but I used to eat 3000 calories.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's about you got to get it in.
Speaker 1:You don't have to go that big, it's just like two hours makes you've had enough. Being a little hungry helps release DMT and it helps you have lucid dreams. And if you can have lucid dreams or you can just have a deeper sleep, you will problem solve better.
Speaker 2:That's a good point.
Speaker 1:And so it's worth it to be a little hungry, to be smarter.
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Speaker 1:We're dropping everyone tonight. Onward and upward.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's talk about the course. You've got it recorded, you've got it produced.
Speaker 1:I've got the first part produced, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1:So the course is a look at each one of these pillars, the um, except for I don't dive in too deeply to physical at the beginning Actually, no, it's a lie, take that out Um.
Speaker 1:So I go through each of the pillars and I start with what I think is the best way to set yourself up, which is getting a bird's eye view, and I talk about ways that you can observe high performance and the ways that you can have certain systems for understanding what you should be doing, what you're spending too much time on, and how to get the highest return on investment for your time, for your energy, for your money. And I like to think about high performance as a spiral, in that you're always trying to look for what is a 20% of the work that's going to get me 80% of the results, and then I move on to the next thing, and then I move on to the next thing and the next thing, and there's four pillars and then, once you've done all four, you start back at the beginning again, and then that way you know that you've got all of your bases covered. You're building your house somewhat evenly.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And the very first. So it's the overview, is I call it foundations. That's free and it's 20 lessons.
Speaker 2:Where LizGlittlecom?
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I'm gonna have to look up this exact website. I think it's it's on school.
Speaker 2:Oh right.
Speaker 1:It's called the Peak Performance Accelerator.
Speaker 2:We'll. We'll include it in the show notes for those. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Exactly. And then the second one is all about mental training, and it's what I think is the most minimum, effective dose way to mentally train yourself, to take on any new habit and to change the way you think and to perceive the feeling of growing and learning. And the reason why this is my favorite habit is because people feel like they get stuck in a rut, they get stuck in a plateau. They don't know if what they're doing is working. And this is about developing a system that takes you one to two minutes in the morning and maybe five minutes at night.
Speaker 2:Okay, I can get on board with that. Yeah, I can do six minutes.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm all about the minimum effective dose, because habits don't work if you have too much resistance to do them, and everything that I build out is based on that, and your minimum effective dose, or your capacity to do more, builds over time. But you have to start with almost ridiculously small but see results immediately. So what I do is I do daily wins, and the idea is you don't just set up goals, you set up a vision, and you don't have to start with a really big vision, but you have to understand that a vision is about direction. It's about who do you want to become and the goals help you support who you want to become. So I get people to set up their daily wins and it starts with understanding priming yourself first thing in the morning, which is the idea of do not let your phone, your email, your Instagram or your friends prime your brain first thing in the morning.
Speaker 1:When we wake up, we are in theta state. We are super easily hypnotized. This is why infomercials are on late at night or first thing in the morning. You need to prime yourself. You need to hypnotize yourself with what matters to you before anyone else takes it away from you, and then you can go on with your day and check your social media and check your email, but your brain is now actually created a confirmation bias to look for the things that you care about. Confirmation bias is something that we often see as negative because we say it's an unconscious confirmation bias, which means that you confirm whatever you believe. That's what you see. Your brain is a big filtration mechanism. That's what it does. So what do you want to filter for?
Speaker 2:I want to get out negativity more than anything right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's tough to avoid, it is, but if you're priming properly, listening to your Ted talk following your five-step morning routine.
Speaker 1:It makes a really big difference. I've done this to myself over and over and over again. I actually somewhere it might be in the closet, I forget where it is I have all of my calendars that I used to keep with my daily wins.
Speaker 1:So daily wins you use as a calendar, yeah and you stack that and you stack it and what people do is people normally have agendas or they do week calendars. You don't see change over a week. You might see it over two, you might see a little progress over a week, but if you flip the page then it looks like you're starting with nothing and part of daily wins is seeing everything stack up over the course of a month. It's been recorded, apparently, that the fastest that someone has seen in studies someone change a habit and have it become a habit is 18 days. The average is 66. And obviously it can take a lot longer than that to build a habit. How you build a habit depends a lot on your timing, knowing your minimum effective dose and understanding the effectiveness of what you're doing. If you don't know those things, chances are it's going to take you longer to build a habit. So that's what Daily Wins starts accounting for. It's about putting in place parameters to help you make habits happen faster.
Speaker 1:And then at night you do something else. You set yourself up. You're like what am I doing? What do I care about? What do I need to do today? One thing, what's going to move the needle forward? And then at night night you say what did I do today that moved the needle forward? What coincidences happened that helped me out? What synchronicities happened? What did I make happen? What else did I do that I didn't even realize I had to do, but I had the opportunity to do it, and you start seeing not only what actions you're taking, but the things that you're doing to mess yourself up, which is also really important, because then you realize, oh, that's not an alignment. I said I wanted this, but my actions say otherwise. And you start really feeling it. But you do this right before you go to bed. Again, you're in this theta state. You're sleepy, you are programming yourself to say this is who I want to be and I was successful today, because it's the identity of being successful in moving towards your goals.
Speaker 2:So using that positive self-talk during that theta state, it's just the right timing, more than anything.
Speaker 1:And it's not even positive self-talk. You don't have to convince yourself of anything. What happened today? Yes or no?
Speaker 2:Very objective.
Speaker 1:Very objective what happened today and that's incredibly important. You don't have to say a mantra and make yourself think that you're somebody that you're not. You're like, I'm going this way. What made me move towards that direction? So the course is about one setting yourself up with the basics of that. I've pretty much told you what the basics are.
Speaker 1:There's obviously a lot more detail in the course and I like to say start with the basics and then, when you take the course there's about 22 videos and you watch one video, one video per day, or one to three videos every couple of days, and whenever you get a aha moment or something just clicks. Then you, you stop, you stop the course for a day or two, you let it marinate, you update the way you do your daily wins, because the more deeply you understand what you're doing psychologically, physiologically the more likely you are to continue doing it. And it's about the more deeply you understand something, the easier it is to have discipline, because you understand the importance. And now you want to do it because you know it's going to pay off yeah, and you're feeling the effects, whether that's exactly emotionally like yeah you're probably getting that reinforcement from others around you as well who are noticing that exactly um, I'm curious.
Speaker 1:You talked about being ahead of the curve, grounding grounding every day right every day, so good I walk up my front steps, I have my coffee, I have my chocolate, I sit on my porch for the bit, for a little bit. I look at the trees and I look at fractal patterns. Then I go for a little walk in the grass, no matter if it's raining or if it's freezing, I get my feet in the ground I'm this setup is you have an amazing setup for that I do, it's perfect.
Speaker 2:Um, I am not so fortunate in my current setup, but I got sent some grounding well, like ground, ground well, ground well, uh, mats. I don't know if you've seen those. I've heard of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, their ads are everywhere on instagram I would love to just tie a metal wire to my toe and just plug it into the garden. Quite honestly, I'm, like this, close to doing it.
Speaker 2:So they have one that's a bed sheet and one that's a mat that you stand on. So I'm going to bring you the mat and see, just let you use it for a bit. Let me know what you think. Okay, I've been sleeping on it. I've seen some benefit. My whoop was telling me it's been going up. Oh of it, my whoop strap. My whoop was telling me it's been going up. Oh, uh, the days that it wasn't. I, to your point, had a beverage and I was like man can't do that right, can't do it, can't have the beverage it's crazy how much it impacts and I can have one drink and it doesn't impact you.
Speaker 1:I can have one drink about two hours before bed and I'll be okay, really, yeah one it's.
Speaker 2:It's mind boggling like a beer after hockey with the boys. I have to be like cognitively. I'm like, okay, I'm going to lose sleep if I do this. So, midday game, maybe it's fine to have one, but nighttime I'm like sorry boys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, you know what my hottest tip for athletes? This is it.
Speaker 1:If you drink. Drink like, actually choose like alcohol is going to mess up your memory. There's tons of studies on the way people oh my God, you have one drink it can mess up your memory by 50%. It's insane, like your recall for whatever you learned earlier that week can be dropped by 50. So day, drink, drink water. Drink clear alcohol. Don't drink dark alcohol, because there's stuff in it that makes it harder for your body to remove the toxins. Um, understand that most alcohol is a downer. Yeah, so it makes you depressed, but tequila is an upper so clear tequila, is clear tequila um, if you're going for lack of calories, tequila has like 150 calories in a shot.
Speaker 1:Vodka has 50. So if you're gonna drink, those are the recommendations for drinking and generally having having vodka, limes or having tequila with lime, because lime has electrolytes it can help. Or even having a pickle back. I mean pickle juice is very helpful to help again replenish electrolytes.
Speaker 2:But didn't think we'd start talking about drinking during this episode, but I drank.
Speaker 1:I drank a lot during university. It was not good for me but, but that was that was what I needed in that time of my life. I wanted a certain degree of freedom and I wanted to. We didn't understand what was going on with alcohol back then. I'm sure if I knew more, I would have been more selective about when I drank, because there's also team bonding and you know, you have, I have amazing memories and I wouldn't give those up. Those also boosted my performance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the thing Like I had a conversation with Zach Rinaldo. It never ended up airing on the show, so we'll have to get him on again, but he talked about there's guys in the NHL. He's an nhl enforcer. There were literally probably hundreds of players who played better because they went out the night before with the guys. Maybe they had a bit more of a guilty feeling so they needed to play better. Whether they played better hungover, whatever the case may be, yeah, but there's something to be said there as well, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, it's also interesting in the idea that you are increasing your risk for injury, because if you're dehydrated, your tissues don't work as well. Like things can happen. The older you get, you know you look the wrong way too fast. It's not good.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You are playing a dangerous game.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And again, this is an emotional thing. Yeah, it's true this is an emotional thing. Yeah, it's true. It's. How do you why? What did you need from that experience that you had to get from alcohol that you didn't generate yourself? What are you not giving yourself permission to do? Because alcohol is an inhibitor or a disinhibitor. So, really, it's about what do you actually want and how do we let you get that? How do we uninhibit you to actually allow you to feel free to get what you want?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know it's been eye-opening for me over the past few years because, like you, I drank a lot during university and now I'm like maybe.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh no, thank you, don't poison me. Visceral reaction. It is poison, though right, it's poison. People forget it's literally poison.
Speaker 2:Yeah me, this little reaction. It is poison, though right, people forget it's literally poison. Yeah, all that being said, I see a value for it.
Speaker 1:Right time, right place, totally, um, but it's also really fun, like going to a wedding and getting a little drunk with your friends is like worth it, like yeah, or after an olympic games celebrating that was my yeah like any good stories there do I have any good stories from the Olympics and celebrating? Yeah, but I can't tell some of them on the podcast.
Speaker 2:You're like not in the same line as when I just promoted my coaching?
Speaker 1:No, no, is that no? I mean, I remember once, okay, in London, it was the last night, it was after closing ceremonies and it was great. It wasn't a dry village and the Germans had bought I kid you not a stack of beer up to like here and I was just walking around and they're like do you want a beer? After chatting for a couple of minutes, I said yeah, sure, I said thank you, and they'd be like, yeah, you're cool, we're just giving beers to cool people and we're just drinking. Everybody was just drinking together, but it was just everybody celebrating together and everybody getting rip drunk. But I mean, you need that release after a quadrennial of training.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And to be with. That's the most beautiful thing about the Olympics. You can have a conversation with anybody, because you know that you all have the same thing in common, which is insane, and it's such an exciting time that you're like well, let's bond, let's celebrate.
Speaker 2:You brought up that same thing on the last episode, did I? Well, let's bond, let's celebrate you. Uh, you brought up that same thing on the last episode, did I? Yeah, oh my god ground it's that, that you all have that same thing in common. Yeah, and that shared experience goes so far, so far, and people don't necessarily. Well, you'll have that for the rest of your life, right, and you? Had it three separate times three very different olympics yeah yeah uh, we could probably.
Speaker 2:Well, I feel like we'll end up having another conversation once. All five, is it five?
Speaker 1:Five episodes. Five episodes of the course when can people find it On school? We'll drop it in the show notes. Yeah, where's your socials.
Speaker 2:Give us the yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So the first episode, or I guess the first section of the course, is on daily wins and that sets you up for doing anything else you want to do with mental training. The second is going to be about cheat codes for movement and it's the ways that you can understand your body without having a kinesiology degree and it helps you figure out how to move and how to learn how to do any skill.
Speaker 1:Like what we did at the park or like what we did at the park or it's much of like fun fact cheat codes. And then the next is emotional training, which is understanding how to deal with certain emotions and how to make them work for you. And I teach people to play the game of the gifts, which you can look at my TED talk and you can start playing straight away, and it's a game to rewire your brain to see challenges and things that are really hard as opportunities to learn. And then, last, I do social training, which is really about understanding how to build teams and involves a lot of self-reflection and understand what do I think I'm showing you, what are you seeing in me, and then how are you treating me and how does that help me know what I'm actually showing you, which makes more harmonious relationships? So that's all going to be in school and it's my socials are Java, liz, so not Java like the coffee, but J-A-V-E-L-I-Z-Z, z-z for you Americans, and that's my main spot. I'm not on X. I guess I'm also technically on TikTok.
Speaker 2:Same. Thing.
Speaker 1:But my marketing people helped me post on there. So if you want to reach out to me and expect a fast, snappy reply, Instagram is the place to be.
Speaker 2:And then we'll come here again. Third episode from the Vortex, once everything's finalized.
Speaker 1:Once you've learned rope flow, once you've learned how to bounce, that's what we should have done.
Speaker 2:We'll do a part two with some rope flow.
Speaker 1:we'll get some other local vancouver out, so we'll do some parkour we can clip on some mics and do some rope flow and keep a conversation going.
Speaker 2:There you go, there you go yeah, there you go, that's it, that's, that's the pod 249.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, congratulations, thank you. Thank you, that's a lot of episodes that is.
Speaker 2:It's a lot. It's crazy. Yeah, just over five years now. It's great. You were 60, like I said, 62, 65, so just over four years. Last week we had erin rowliff on who was episode 35. She won the us open uh championship last year. Damn, yeah, it's uh. It's cool. We're having fun. We're getting reconnected with some of the people we had on uh over the past half decade. Nice, thank you for coming on, appreciate it. Thanks for having me. I look forward to you folks benefiting from Liz's course and give her a follow on social media. Thanks for tuning in. Hope you have a great rest of your day. Bye.
