The Athletes Podcast
The Athletes Podcast is a leading source of information, inspiration, and education for anyone interested in optimizing physical performance, maintaining good health, and living an active lifestyle. Join David Stark as he interviews some of the world's biggest athletes and fitness professionals, The Athletes Podcast provides practical advice, expert insights, and real-world strategies to help listeners achieve their health and fitness goals.The goal is to entertain, educate & inspire the next generation of athletes!
The Athletes Podcast
Cruz Oguz on Training, Identity, and Social Media - Episode #261
Cruz Oguz, dubbed the most athletic kicker in the country prior to entering the NCAA, shares his multifaceted approach to athleticism through football, track, and tricking while creating his social media content.
• Creates and edits all content himself, recently upgrading equipment to enhance quality
• Follows a modified diet with around 200g of carbohydrates while cutting for summer
• Boasts impressive lifting numbers: 640lb deadlift, potential 500lb squat, 335lb bench press
• Tried the carnivore diet after hearing Joe Rogan discuss it, experiencing improved energy and skin clarity
• Uses the carnivore approach as a periodic "reset" similar to how fasting cleanses the system
• Takes 5g creatine daily (after loading phase), fish oil for joint health, and occasional protein powder
• Consistently disagreed with trainers who pushed high carbohydrate intake
• Training evolved from sport-specific to more aesthetic-focused for social media appeal
• Identity deeply connected to athletic pursuits: "I don't think I'd be myself if I wasn't doing that stuff"
• Final advice: "Always do it your way" - make decisions that align with your authentic self
Powered by Perfect Sports Supplements, use "AP15" to save 15%!
--
Want to see more of the AP? Subscribe to the AP YouTube channel.
--
Check out Cruz's stuff:
Instagram
--
Check out Dave's stuff:
Instagram
Twitter
LinkedIn
--
Try Can-I-Wellness Sleep Product 20% off - AP20 at checkout
--
Get 20% off Caldera Lab Men's Skincare Products
--
Get your Vivobarefoot Shoes 20% off by using the code: ATHLETEPOD20
Check out our Website | Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram | Tiktok | Spotify | Apple | Google | Youtube l Save 20% on Perfect Sports Supplements
Well, to maintain my ego, my egotism would say there's no one that I look up to, because I believe I'm unique. As talky as that sounds, I believe that I'm unique. It's also the reason you have me on the podcast.
Speaker 2:What's going on everybody? Welcome back. Today we have episode 261 of the Athletes Podcast, featuring Cruz Ohus, an athlete of many talents. He does flips, tricks, he's a track star, he's a kicker in football, does almost everything. In this episode, you're going to learn about his workout routines, what kind of supplements he takes and really just learning how to be yourself, as that's really something he strives for. It's a fantastic episode. You guys are going to love it. Obviously, we couldn't do this without some of our sponsors and our partners. We have Perfect Sports, perfect Sports Diesel. They have all the supplements you need protein powders, creatine, everything along those lines and if you use code AP15 at checkout, you're going to save 15%. Seriously, this stuff is fantastic. You're going to love it. As well as K&I Wellness is fantastic. You're going to love it. As well as K&I Wellness, we have Pioneer Auto Group. Hopefully, dave's going to be back in the Jeep soon doing some chats in cars with more athletes. Without further ado, let's get into the episode with Cruz Ohuz.
Speaker 3:You're the most decorated racquetball player in US history, world's strongest man From childhood passion to professional athlete, eight-time Ironman champion. So what was it like making your debut in the NHL? What is your biggest piece of advice for the next generation of athletes, from underdogs to national champions? This is the Athletes Podcast, where high-performance individuals share their triumphs, defeats and life lessons to educate, entertain and inspire the next generation of athletes. Here we go. Do my best to not butcher your name right off the start here. Most people, I feel like, don't do it correctly Cruz Ohus. Welcome to the Athletes Podcast, brother. We do our research prior to getting our people on the Athletes Podcast. Arguably the most athletic kicker in the country dubbed prior to going into the NCAA. You're a track star. You're a kicker. You're a tricker. How do you create your content? Do you edit it all yourself? Are you doing all of your videos? Yeah, damn dude. Good for you.
Speaker 1:All by myself. It's just like I'm sitting here on the couch all day editing and then I go lift and recording all on CapCut too. I just got a new camera actually to really upgrade my content. Because you know iPhone, with their, the way they program their phone just doesn't work. After like four years it gets so frustrating. But with the camera I think the quality is much better, heck yeah. So I think it's more attention.
Speaker 3:Good, good stuff, man. Well, we were just chatting here. I was saying you're at 57K right now on Insta. With the new upgraded camera and the AP pump and a little bit of extra time on your hands, you're going to be at that 100K, no problem. End of year, that's what we're predicting right now. You're talking about your lifting, though, honestly, straight up, the fact that you're doing all your editing yourself is massive on its own. I got to ask, though, though what are your big three lifts out right now? How do you train? When I listened to one of your podcasts, in 2023, you're on the carnivore diet. Are you still doing that?
Speaker 1:yeah, so well, I'm dab. I'm in a cut right now so I can uh increase my carbohydrate intake closer like 200. So it's a lot more than, obviously, when I was doing no carbs at the carnivore diet. I'm just trying to get lean, get that summer body. It comes back to winter by bulking days.
Speaker 1:But you asked about the big three. So big three, right. A bench deadlift, squat right. Last time I maxed squat it was senior year of high school, I think I did 450 for two sloppy reps. But I think if I maxed out when I was working out at Memphis, I think I could hit the big 500. I'm at 640 right now with the deadlift, and the only reason it's 640 pounds I believe you've seen this video is because a woman did that and I'm like, as bad as it sounds, I'm like dude, I can't let that happen, I can't let that happen.
Speaker 1:So, as bad as it sounds, I'm like dude, I can't let that happen, I can't let that happen. So I posted the video and a week later and some other woman broke the record. So now I gotta like you know, now I gotta up my game a little bit. Bench press is not where I really want it to be. It's uh, 350, no 335 right now. If I can get 365 by the end of the year, I'm sure that'll be cake. Just gotta lock in on a little bit. I can do that. The big goal is probably be the. You know four plates, four or five. That's what everyone's going after. The. The gymflation used to be four or five used to be yeah, why?
Speaker 3:why is that gymflation? Is that just a little bit of extra, a little sauce in the system for some folks? Or is that social media? What do you think it is?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know what it is. I think people are just so like wired into what's being posted on social media. What do you think it is? I don't know, I don't know what it is. I think people are just so like wired into what's being posted on social media. You see these like crazy physiques and then to the point where you you go outside in public and you'll see somebody and you'll be like, oh man, even though he has decent muscle, right, you're like, oh, it's a crap, crap physique, crap physique. So I don't know, I think some people overestimate and underestimate what they can achieve themselves, while overestimating what I don't know they should be aiming for realistically. You know what I'm saying record uh 2022 north american regionals masters category.
Speaker 3:She pulled 480 uh pb of 420 pb squat. Um, you know she was she's in her 40s, though only started power lifting really like six years ago. So, uh, late 30s, early 40s yeah, crazy stuff, crazy stuff anyway. Um, this is what we do. We bring on incredible athletes onto the show, we get to chat with them, we learn about their mindset, their training, their nutrition. Those are some big lists on your end. Like that, 640 is, no, no small number. Uh, 405 on the bench would be crazy. Like that's a, that's a big number. Have you like what's your three? Were you saying 335? Is that for one sloppy clean? What are we looking?
Speaker 1:it was feet were kind of coming off the ground. I've actually I've never been the type to use like leg drive. Like every time I see a video like going for a max, my like legs are kind of like floating up in the air. Maybe I can, maybe I can add on a couple extra pounds if I really locked in on my form a little bit. But I know, I know that's all in my chest. That's the good news. Yeah, yeah 100.
Speaker 3:One of the other guests we had on the pod, ashley Hueta, is the largest equipped female bench presser in the world. She put up over 500 plus. She's an absolute animal, never done it with the equipped. I'm still working on getting up to that. 305, 315 number dude. I'm putting up 225, maybe a couple reps here. I got a lot of work to do, it's the long arms dude, you know, we, uh, you know, as taller athletes, that's my excuse. I'm uh, six, two, six, three in a suit oh yeah, I got those long arms.
Speaker 1:It's all right once you get muscle, like a bunch of muscle in that flame I'm sure. I'm sure you know that's like being tall and jacked, like it's overpowered. Yeah I'm not tall by any means. I like six foot in shoes, but you like you, bro, you're overpowered I'm uh, the goal is probably 220 eventually.
Speaker 3:I say that now I'm like you know we're. You know we still got a couple years of growth before we got to tighten it up into our 30s. But the constant desire to get better physically, mentally, you said it yourself, social media does a lot of damage because you see all these incredible physiques online. Half these images might be edited. Half the other images people are starving. They're not actually healthy in reality. So it's an interesting dynamic that we have to live with here in 2025. Um, but you know, we we also get to be the beneficiaries of all this incredible knowledge research that's being done.
Speaker 3:Um, why did you start the carnivore? I'm curious, because that was 2023, that was covid stuff. Like. Do you still mix in that? Because of your cut like. Like, I want to dive deeper into the training nutrition piece. I think, specifically, a lot of athletes in their you know, ncaa, collegiate university careers start to realize the benefits. Some do, some don't. That can be the difference between moving on to a professional stage or, you know, becoming a non-professional, put it that way I started it in late 2022 it was.
Speaker 1:It was going into the second half of my senior year and I I like the way that I look and I think that can be a healthy thing and that and that can be about. You're the type of person to look in the mirror and be like, damn, I look like crap and then eat like crap. You're kind of digging yourself in a hole. But if you look in the mirror and say, dang, I look like crap, I gotta eat like crap. You're kind of digging yourself in a hole. But if you look in the mirror and say, dang, I look like crap, I got to look better, that's a good thing. So I heard you know, joe, it was literally just from Joe Rogan.
Speaker 1:I did no study, nothing. I just heard Joe Rogan talk about it. I'm like, okay, I got to try this. So I tried it. Energy levels through the roof. I still had some acne Disappeared, felt good, got shredded. I think I had a bit of newbie gain at the same time, because I don't mean to been the laws of thermodynamics here, but I swore I gained muscle while losing fat at the same time. It's pretty crazy, but I think that's just newbie gains, kind of stimulating my muscle, cause I never really lifted seriously throughout high school. I was just kind of, you know, naturally strong, I had the good genetics and whatnot, but that's kind of continued that on.
Speaker 1:It got really difficult at Mississippi state because you know I was waking up 6 o'clock breakfast. Go to class, go to lift, do your practice. The worst part about football, by the way, I'm sure you'd agree, the worst part about football is conditioning With track. That's all you did. That was the whole point. So I kind of got tired. I kind of felt like that. I was doing it half a year at that point so I had felt like the fatigue a bit. So I kind of bumped up my carbohydrates, felt good. I think it's carnivore diet is really something you should probably do every couple of months, kind of like a reset, kind of like how, when people fast, it's like a cleansing of their system. That's how I saw it, and so I still see it. So I'll probably start it up here again in a couple months.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the it's like an elimination diet at the end of the day, right. And when you put a bunch of stuff into your body that maybe it's not able to like synthesize uh for lack of a better term or absorb, then, yeah, when you go down to meat and veggies, it's a pretty basic diet that your body's like oh, I can handle these substances and I'll be fine, right? Uh, when you start mixing in all the processed foods, when you start jacking up the carbs, you know your body's like holy dina, there's a lot of stuff to process. But, um, yeah, does your training look like because I know it's probably changed from track and field to football to now like kind of bodybuild? I don't know like, how does what does your training look like? Are you training a couple days a week? Are you training every day? Are you going plyos? Are you going heavy? Like how do you? How do you build it out?
Speaker 1:yeah, I'll do at least two things kind of which my, like you said, switch my training more of a football trying to get better at the sport you know track to more of something that looks a little bit better on social media, because I'm no fool when I say that trying to become something in this day and age is kind of, um, very, very reliant on social media and your and your image. So I'll do the things that look the best on there. I've I do more of a bodybuilder style training I I don't really do much of the power lifting, trying to see how much I can lift anymore, although that's fun to fun to dabble in every now and then. I just kind of focus on attacking the muscle, isolating the muscle, shocking it, doing whatever. I tried Mike Mincer's training actually, which you're losing a lot of weight doing that. It's very, very intense. It's almost always to a failure.
Speaker 1:I believe I tried to get up really good. I felt like I was growing just as rapidly as I was when I was really really hitting the muscle for multiple sets as opposed to just one set, taking to a really extreme level and then leaving it there and prioritizing rest. So I'll lift Later today. I'm probably going to go kick or something like that. I've got to go to Louisiana Tech next week to kick in front of their coaches, so that's exciting. But yeah, just two things today, two things every day.
Speaker 3:Heck yeah. And I'm noticing a trend in the sense that you are constantly changing things up. I feel like that is something that athletes should really understand graphs from what you do and the way you operate One day you're kicking, the next day you're bodybuilding do. And the way you operate one day you're kicking, the next day you're body building. The next day you're trying to pull 640 pounds, right, like there's something to be said for adjusting and adapting and allowing your body to do that for you and allowing that to become subconscious, right. And you even said, like becoming someone or becoming something in this day and age. Dude cruz, you're already there. Don't forget that. You're already someone, you're something right now. But I know where your head's at.
Speaker 3:I feel the exact same way and I just allow you provide you some comfort in the sense that, like you're going to continue to grow, scale and impact more with the work that you continue to put in and the effort that you provide again, again, like I talked about it before, but like you're a student athlete, you're the one waking up at 5, 6 am grinding. You're not necessarily going staying out every night. You don't have the responsibilities necessarily of a 40-year-old with kids in a home. But you know, student athletes have to perform, have to put in way more time and effort than a typical student, and that's going to set you apart post-school, whatever else you pursue. So I just heard that there.
Speaker 3:I wanted to make sure you know you're something right now and you're going to make sure that the work that you do is going to impact so many others down the road. That's what we're doing here on the podcast. Who kind of inspired you other than your dad Were there. Athletes that you looked up to I know you just mentioned mike menser and like his training obviously high volume, intense, one set, give it all you got and then prioritize rest, like you said. Were there any others that you kind of adopted? Or people that you admire look up to train like?
Speaker 1:well to um, maintain my ego, my egotistical, but say there's no one that I like look up because I? I believe I'm unique as talky as that sounds, I. But there's no one that I like look up to because I believe I'm unique as poppy as that sounds, I believe that I'm unique. There's also the reason you have me on the podcast. But in each independent niche I definitely had people that I looked up to Sam Kojo, huge example for the tricking like the flips that I do. He was the one that was on this guy named Plan Zero's videos and he actually made a massive website called Kojo's Trick Lab, because it's an incredibly niche sport. It's hard to actually progress just from YouTube. So if I had what these kids have now Kojo's Trick Lab they can just sign up and search whatever trick and it's a huge 20-minute step-by-step how to do this flip Same Kojo, for sure, with flips.
Speaker 1:Mike Minter, you know, arnold, for the bodybuilder, everybody who doesn't want to look like them, right, I'd say for track and field, I actually, who would I say for track and field? Oh, peyton Baird. Peyton Baird, two days ago he won the. I'm sure you know he won the NCAA indoor and outdoor heptathlon and decathlon. So that's pretty crazy. I talked to Peyton a lot back in the day when we were just going to training. He definitely approaches things in a way that is kind of foreign to me, but it just completely works. He's so dialed in all the time and, yeah, I have nothing but respect for him.
Speaker 3:So yeah, we're in the workout mindset. We're talking about working out. We're talking about getting muscle on the body. What supplements do you take? What are you consuming to add size to vascularity that you got?
Speaker 1:Protein right now. I did my loading phase a couple months back, going into the summer, just 15 grams a day for about a week, two weeks, and then now I'm just five grams a day. I do the pills. I can't do the powder. I don't know what it is about the powder, because it's literally. It has no flavor, but to me it just tastes disgusting.
Speaker 1:Really One time I like. Yeah, one time I did 15 grams dry and then I got the energy drink and then something that just upset me so much and now I can't do powder anymore. There's a lot of things I can't do.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of research that's just come out talking about the fact that 10 grams is actually needed for guys our size, maybe a bit more beneficial from the muscle protein synthesis aspect and yeah, anyway, who knows, just might be some. I am very fortunate that I have Perfect Sports as a brand podcast sponsor and they hook us up with some amazing supplements. Actually, I got some creatine right here. Yeah, like I said, I take 10 grams every day. Use the code ap15 if you want to save 15. But, dude, not only the muscle benefits, but the physical benefits, the cranial benefits, um, you know, especially actually a lot of the alzheimer's research. Now they're supplementing, like you said, 10, 15, 20 grams of creatine and crazy results coming from it, and I've been preaching it for a while on the podcast. People are coming to terms with it.
Speaker 3:But it's like the most researched supplement ever and it's literally safe for, you know, a 16-year-old kid who's trying to put on muscle or a 60-year-old mom who's trying to make sure that she keeps her brain in order and can stay organized throughout the day, Like I don't know, and make sure that she keeps her brain in order and can stay organized throughout the day. I don't know, it was demonized for a bit. People were concerned about the kidneys. I've been an advocate for it and it sounds like you are too. What else? Protein powder, omega-3s, vitamin D.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'll do protein powder. I just started doing oil as well. My joints, oh like. I feel so good. In the morning I used to just like wait for like a 40-year-old man. I'm walking down the stairs. He's hurt. I'm like dude, what is this? I'm like I'm supposed to be at the peak of my like testosterone. It's supposed to be all down here All day. It's like five years, but I started taking fish oil. My joints feel really good. I couldn't tell you the exact amount. They give them to me at the football facility. They're like these two little transparent pills. Other than that, I do ISO 100 protein powder. I try to stay away from protein, but I'll definitely take it on a rainy day when you've got to get your protein in. It does make me feel a little bit more bloated than just you know day. You're just eating some ground beef but you know it, it helps.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we got it. We got to get you on the diesel. That might make a difference, but either way, the uh yeah, I mean when it comes to nutrition people, again, it's, it's, it is a supplement to supplement if you can't get your whole foods in. Those should be your priority at all times. But you know, there's uh times when you take six scoops of iso 100 and mix it with your corn flakes and you say that's all you need in your day, right, right I did do that sorry, I had to call you.
Speaker 3:Call you, I'll put you on blast for that one. What uh would the mississippi or the mem Memphis coaches think that was the ideal way to get your calories in for the day?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't think they cared, but I've always, at every school that I've been to, I've always been in disagreement with the trainers. They've always, everywhere the trainers prioritize like you've got to get your carbs, carbs, carbs, carbs, and I'm like I just don't feel good doing that. And then I'll see guys that'll come in that are supposed to play. You know, they're supposed to be heavy, they're supposed to play linebacker, right, they'll come in at 205 into the season. They're 225 pounds, but just like like double chin, double, like yeah, that's, he has more muscle, but is he healthier? I don't, I don't really know. I just don't like the, the, the way that looks and being. I was fortunate enough to be already heavy enough for my position, arguably a little bit heavier, uh. So I didn't, I don't really have to worry. I never had to worry about gaining weight, gaining fat like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's an interesting thing when you uh, you know there's obviously varying opinions on this kind of stuff, but from a health standpoint, adding 20 pounds within the course of a football season is probably not necessarily the healthiest way to do it. Does having more size over time allow you to, you know, make bigger hits and control the game better? Probably a little bit, but if you can't run as fast because you've got an extra 20 pounds on your body, are you actually as effective in your sport, in your role, in your position? Maybe not. Again, depends on what your position is, but there's some varying opinions on it. Put it that way, I'm not the expert, I just bring people on the show. Let them share their opinion. I think I'm actually in your favor here on this one, because a lot of people, especially at the young age, are consuming crazy amounts of, frankly crap, the carbs that they're consuming. It's like, oh yeah, throw back a bunch of Smuckers, what are those Uncrustables? And you're like oh, what are the big ones that all the football teams are crushing now?
Speaker 1:Butter, they do the, they do the. The mass gainer, it's like, oh my gosh, that's like so calorie when you they need it to gain weight. Absolutely, it's just not.
Speaker 3:I'm not particularly in feeling the way trying to cram their you know stomachs every day yeah, well, and there's something to be said for performing and not having your body constantly be in a state of trying to digest. You know, there's like that's it's tough to put out your best self when you've got, you know, a bunch of calories in your stomach trying to digest. What would you be doing if you weren't playing football right now, cruz, if you weren't tricking, if you weren't jumping? I feel like you've got the ability to create content to get people absorbed into whatever you're doing, whether you're parkouring, whether you're kicking 50-yard field goals. Is there something that you haven't done yet that you want to do? I always am curious, because people play their sport, they do the things that they're kind of quote-unquote, supposed to do. What would you do if you didn't have those things?
Speaker 1:Well, going back to social media, like I think I think it's a bad thing if you weren't going to compare yourself, but it's a good thing if you kind of get a little envious, not overly envious, but a little bit. So I see stuff every single day Like dude, I need to be like that guy. I got to get big, big, I gotta get more money, I gotta do this and that. So to answer the question, would I?
Speaker 1:I don't, I don't really know what I would do if I wasn't doing the stuff I was doing out with the flips and stuff, because at that point I'd have to question whether I am myself if I wasn't doing that stuff. Because I think it's just you know the mindset and discipline that brought me to the point where I am at. There's some cool stuff I want to do, I want to go skydiving and stuff. I'm certainly not content with where I'm at because I want to grow with the base that I'm built, but I don't think I'd be myself. I don't know what I'd be doing if I wasn't doing the stuff I was doing. Now, that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3:No, that's good, that what I'd be doing if I wasn't doing the stuff I was doing now. That's what I'm trying to say. No, that's good. That means you are staying true to yourself and you're not doing this because your parents pushed you in one direction.
Speaker 3:I bring it up because my buddy, Brian Wallach, here in British Columbia you might have seen him on Instagram. He's a big six foot seven gym shark athlete. He's kind of playing off looking like David Laid doing some Ashton Hall videos. Uh, he's had like half a million followers right now on Instagram. I'm a little envious of him right now, Cause we're training, we're at fitness world at 6.00 AM and Sam, you know here and I'm like man, this guy is blowing up but he's putting in the work, he's putting in the effort, he's put in the time, he's dedicated. He's been doing it for years now and you know that's a testament to hard work, dedication, like you said, and that's what it comes from. It doesn't happen overnight. People see on socials and they think it's like an instant form of becoming a celebrity, but they don't see the years of work prior where you know you were posting every day and people didn't necessarily see your content every day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, most definitely For um, for sure. Yeah, it's just all about grinding what's uh?
Speaker 3:what's your biggest motivation? Do you think your uh? Your mom or your dad? Are they living locally to you? Are they still in like north america? Do you go back to turkey every couple years?
Speaker 1:yeah, they're in miss Mississippi, about two hours south of me right now. So yeah, I'm in Memphis at the moment.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, hey, dude, I know you got your camp in a week that you're going to be going and kicking putting up performance in front of the coaching staff. I always like to give people an opportunity to share their biggest piece of advice with the next generation of athletes. As the 261st guest podcast appearance on the show, I'd love to leave the floor for you to share what that biggest piece is for you.
Speaker 1:Okay, I might not have remembered the Arnold quote, but I do remember a little Wayne quote. He said what's a little Wayne dude? I can't remember whatever, but somebody said. Someone said said you always have to do it your way. Always have to do it your way. Like you're gonna hear people, you're gonna even hear your parents, you're gonna hear your, your friends that you might think are close to you trying to get in your head. No, no, don't you should. I'm not saying don't take advice, but you should always do your way.
Speaker 1:And every decision, every big decision, every small decision that I made in my life led to the point where I'm at right now. There's been times where, when I was transferred from delta state, like dude, my football career is over, like, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna bet on myself. I've got a gambling addiction, so I'm gonna bet on myself that I'm gonna go fbs and I'm gonna accomplish my dreams and I'm gonna look good on social media and I'm gonna have all this money. There's it. You should always do it your way. That's, that's the best piece of advice I can give speaking and speaking it into existence.
Speaker 3:Brother, I can't wait to see it. I can't wait to see it. I'm excited for you, dude. Uh, I know this is just the beginning. It's gonna be cool to continue to watch. Follow along. Um, I appreciate you coming on the podcast for sharing your story, for providing some insights to the next generation. We'll get you on again when you're at that million. Maybe we'll go for a ride in the Lambo. I got the Jeep here in British Columbia Thanks to Pioneer Auto Group. If you're ever up in British Columbia or Canada, you better let me know. We'll do some tricking or I'll at least watch you trick jump around, and then we'll get in the Jeep record. Another, another episode, yo cruz, oh, who's. Thank you for coming on the athletes podcast man sincerely appreciate it thank you so much for having me all right, everybody that'll do it here for us today at the athletes podcast.
Speaker 2:Really hope you guys enjoyed. Cruz is an awesome guy. He's gonna do some awesome things. Hopefully dave can get him in the jeep sometime soon get him up to bc. But that's gonna do it for us. Comment, subscribe, do everything you can to amplify our podcast. You know it means so much to us. It lets us keep doing these awesome things. Having these awesome conversations means the world to us. So again, keep supporting us and we're going to keep doing some awesome things for you guys. Again, have a good one.
