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Shea Emry - 2 x Grey Cup Champ / World Long Drive Championships - Ep #266
Shea Emry shares his remarkable journey from being a two-time Grey Cup champion in the CFL to competing in World Long Drive Championships, hitting golf balls over 400 yards with a specialized 48-inch driver. His story demonstrates how elite athletes can successfully transition between sports, applying lessons from one competitive arena to another.
• Former CFL linebacker who retired in 2015 and discovered long drive golf in 2022
• Personal record of hitting a golf ball 429 yards using a driver with just 4.5 degrees loft
• Qualified for World Long Drive Championships where competitors regularly hit drives over 400 yards
• Applies mental preparation techniques from football to his golf game
• Credits his multi-sport background for ability to transition between athletic disciplines
• Emphasizes the importance of exposing children to multiple sports rather than early specialization
• Runs a "professional snowball making" business, creating snowball fight experiences for events
• Co-founded Sphere Guide, a platform connecting clients with specialized coaches
• Maintains the same competitive mindset in golf as he did in football, paying attention to details without overthinking
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What's up, team? Welcome back to the 266th episode of the Athlete's Podcast, today featuring Shea Emery. He is creating world-class teams with Sphere Guide.
Speaker 1:He is two-time Grey Cup champion, two-time voted nastiest player in the CFL and also a world long drive athlete An ideal individual to have here on the Athlete's Podcast, powered by Perfect Sports Supplements. If you use the code AP15, you can save 15% on products like the best coffee crunch bar on the market creatine that everyone should be taking, whether you're 18 or 80. The benefits are insane cognitive and physical performance. This is the 266th episode of the Athletes Podcast today featuring Shea Emery. Here we go.
Speaker 2:You're the most decorated racquetball player in US history, world's strongest man racquetball player in US history. World's strongest man From childhood passion to professional athlete, eight-time Ironman champion. So what was it like making your debut in the NHL? What is your biggest piece of advice for the next generation of athletes, from underdogs to national champions? This is the Athletes Podcast, where high-performance individuals share their triumphs, defeats and life lessons to educate, entertain and inspire the next generation of athletes. Here we go.
Speaker 3:I went to my first tournament July last year, yeah, and it was in Toronto on the World Long Drive Tour. And that's when I got kind of exposed to how it all works right and that's why I went. We were already going to be out there and then I kind of, you know, outlined it to my wife and I said this is what I'm thinking, this is what I want to do. I mean, ideally, I'd love to make it to the world championships which are in, you know, at atlanta in august. And I just got to the point where I was like, okay, and then I did pretty well, I didn't, I didn't qualify. But then I got one of those sponsorship exemption where my buddy's like, hey, I have a, I have a qualifin, a qualification, a qualification for the world championships and I'd love to give you an invite, I'm in. So that's when I kind of changed my mindset, just like that. You got that, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I gotta ask if you're all Nike but rocking Adidas shoes, what's going?
Speaker 3:on there. Yeah, I just like these shoes.
Speaker 1:Okay, because I have the same ones. I have to ask.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're like wider.
Speaker 1:They're crazy comfy. Yeah, crazy comfy. I'm excited to get a couple rips in here. I haven't been playing enough golf, but I've been watching you. That's more like it.
Speaker 3:There it is there you go, does it hit the house?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we get to put it Over, oh monster, hey, that's a good start.
Speaker 3:Hey, that's a good start. It's funny. Like you know, I've been playing so much tournament golf in the scrambles, which is kind of what I wanted to do Gives me a chance to practice on course, and so every time I'm on the course it's like I have to hit. I'm not hitting my three-wood, which I would choose to hit on a specific hole, they're like're hitting the green, let's go, yeah. And so it's been fun to be able to kind of really focus on shot shapes with the long distance for sure, typically I'm.
Speaker 3:you know if I'm hitting my regular play driver, yeah, you know, I'm like 330 to 350, you know kind of 75 percent swing. Just get it out there straight, yeah. And now they're like no, no, no, why are you not swinging? Why are you not trying? I'm 40 almost, bro, I'm just trying to keep it straight.
Speaker 1:So you get an extra hundred yards from your, or maybe an extra 50 yards from the line.
Speaker 3:Well, adrenaline's a hell of a drug. Yeah Right, when you got other guys and you're hitting 380. Other guys are hitting 420 and right next to you, but I'm batting about 200 right now that's okay, you got it.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna rip a couple here. See, go for it. And so what is this T function? You got going in here anything special? No, okay, these are. These are what you would use in here.
Speaker 3:Anything special here? No, okay, so these are what you would use in competition, these things, these T claws here Okay, so they can be put anywhere on the deck and you can figure it out from there.
Speaker 3:But yeah, you just kind of figure out the little intricacies of how all the pros are doing it and they all come up with a towel, their six t claws with all of their t's already put in it, so that one. Because you only get two minutes and 30 seconds. So when you're putting the t down you're just like digging I don't care if it went 20 yards, I just grab the next one, next ball, and then you're ready to go okay, how long is this that you've been in long drive specifically now?
Speaker 1:we should do a better job introducing this as we bring the lawnmower in. Let me get one rip in here first.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so get in there and don't try and hit it hard. That is my key is not hitting it hard.
Speaker 1:So you find you're not, you dial it back.
Speaker 3:Well, did you ever do?
Speaker 1:track and field. I almost qualified for provincials. Okay, so track and field.
Speaker 3:I qualified for provincials, okay. So track and field I was a track guy from from the get-go okay track and field field event. So you get javelin discus, long jump, triple jump, shot, punt, yeah, you get three throws, you get six jumps or whatever it is, yeah. And so what you're really trying to do with your first throw or your first jump is just get a good score right, right. So you're going to go up there. You get six balls, right, you're going to go up there. You're going to try and hit a good one out there, 350, nice and smooth, maybe 75 percent, yeah, so that you can swing for it right, right. And that's the best part, because I've done that my whole life and I'm like, oh, oh, I totally get this. Just hit us in a smooth shot, yeah. And then you can start to like, you know, maybe put a little bit more break in your knee, yeah, you know a little bit more angle, you know just a little bit more effort.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I hit that 30-yard 50 field goal before the 50 exactly yeah right and and so you know, when I was able to go there, I had this guy that was running all the online tournaments. Yeah, he, you know, we roomed together at the tournament and he was kind of like my mentor and his name is Mike Zuloff and he's been on the tour for about eight years and you know, a real like steward for the sport, Okay, and he kind of just kind of like showed me how it's done and then he's like I don't know how you got up there, so calm, so cool. I was like man, we're just hitting golf balls. No one's trying to hit me in the head right now. Hook and ladder, speaking of which it's got to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean from a, just purely from a ability to focus on oneself versus the 11 other guys on the field who are trying to take your head off. This has got to seem pretty simple in comparison. Yeah, and I mean not to downplay what?
Speaker 3:but no long drive. I came in last year when I came here to do my prep for the world championships. I basically, like you know, just like I did in football, in the locker room or in the meeting rooms, I like drew up my grid, yeah, you know. I said I had five poles and I said each pole had a one and a two. So I wanted to know if I was going to hit, like a, you know, one, two, three, four, five, like where I wanted to hit the ball, yeah, and where the wind was coming from Right, and how that was going to adjust my height or my launch angle. And just try to keep it super simple, because there's so much data in golf now and I'm like A-gap guy.
Speaker 1:I just got to go straight. Yeah for sure. Paralysis by analysis.
Speaker 3:Speaking of straight.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, let's see it Nice. There you go Right on, cue Does it feel like you're like oh, that one's over Do you ever feel like you are holding back. Then, when you're playing a normal round, you're only giving 75%. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's got to always feel like you are holding back. Then, when you're playing a normal round, you're only giving 75%. Yeah, it's got to always feel like that.
Speaker 3:Especially if you're playing with a big driver like this. Yeah, that sounded good. Ah, a little right, the camera doesn't see the ball I've got to warm up without the camera first. There's no shot tracer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where's Mac Boucher when you need him yeah, this will be the 265th episode of the athletes podcast. Yeah, okay, and one of the things that I was most excited about specifically for this episode is the fact that you've you're multi-sport athlete now I am. Yeah, I feel like even during you've talked about you would go randomly off season, you're training guy like randy chevrier comes to mind, who's an absolute animal in the gym, you guys 40 something or I don't know.
Speaker 1:He might even be 50, I don't know I don't know if he'll like just saying that it it's okay, the CFL does not get enough credit for the athletes that are involved. For sure, and I think one of the coolest parts here about these conversations that we get to have, that I get to have on a weekly basis, that we get to peel back layers of the onion of an athlete the masculinity around football sports. How males are portrayed in golf.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Buddy so.
Speaker 3:I'm going gonna get right to it, let's do it. How do you get, how did I get involved in long drive? Okay, so retired in 2015. Yeah, post football, transition sport. You've had this conversation a thousand times. What do I'm doing next? Right, so I'm living in whistler.
Speaker 3:Big guy was a track guy. I was like, oh, I said bobsled. I'm like, oh, I retired due to concussions, I'm not going to go do bobsled. Right, I saw jesse lemston, who's now, I think, the director of push, canada, yep, or sled push or whatever it's called, and and I said, okay, maybe I go in that direction and maybe it's snowboard cross, maybe. What can I put my body to towards? Yeah, because I think I was 29, 30. At the time, I'd only broken one bone in my body. 2011, right, yeah, yeah, 2015 was my last year.
Speaker 3:And yeah, 20, I can't remember when it was to be honest with you, but my it like took me so long to get to the point where, like I owned a tennis club for five years, I was like do I be a become a pro pickleball player? Yeah, what's? What's the vibe here, shay. And then you know, long story short, I'm sitting on the couch one day and my wife got into bodybuilding and she's like you're working out, you're super strong, what are you doing with your body? Like, what are you pushing yourself towards? Yeah, I'm on instagram and it's like bryson dechhambeau and Martin in 2022. And it's just like straight bravado. And I was like that's it, that's what I got to do. And then my wife said you should go do that.
Speaker 3:And so I signed up for an indoor tournament, simulator tournament in Richmond, and I got zero drives on the board. I legitimately had to go grab my clubs out of the snow at my storage locker. Like minus 30 drove down and I was just like okay, look, these guys, these guys are hitting it 350, 360 and no, no, disrespect. I was like I'm way, I can. I can freaking do this. I'm way better than these guys. I'm just that's my mindset. Yeah, I'm the best. Yeah, right, and naturally, naturally.
Speaker 3:And then the second time I went down like a month later, I got second place. Then I went and came first and then I went to an outdoor tournament and won that. Then I went to the western canadian like team canada qualifiers and I hit 429. I was like I'm ready, yeah, yeah and and yeah, like I said, I was able to be tutored and mentored by my buddy, mike. He sent me my first long drive club and, yeah, the rest is kind of like now it's time to actually commit to it, and last year it was kind of like okay, I'm like toes in the water, let's figure this out.
Speaker 3:Once you saw the potential Correct. And then this year I didn't compete on any world long drive, tournament events, tour dates. I just did a couple local qualifier things, yeah. And and then, you know, I was dealing with the tricep deal, injury from the gym and like something was going on with my pack and my neck. Bunch of MRIs, you know, freaking almost 39 and I'm like dead lifting 405 and just like going being a meathead right. And and then, happenstance, I posted something on instagram. My buddy's like dude, you're looking fast, do you want to go? And I said 100, I want to go. And so that was about a month ago and now we're just in full prep mode, just you know, tapering my training and trying to be fast and furious.
Speaker 1:So was it the competitive. You said adrenaline's a crazy drug. Yeah, from the beginning, were you competing with those guys? Were you blowing them out of the water? At the beginning? Did you feel like you incrementally got better just as the competition rose? Yeah, how's that progress?
Speaker 3:been. Yeah, so I definitely felt like I had more in the tank. Yeah, you know, you're learning like I just got this wild like stallion in my. Tell me about it. What is it? It's so. It's 48 inch shaft, okay, and it's four and a half degree loft okay, so you can essentially bring it down to two and a half degrees. Jacked up grip, jacked up grip.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm probably, you know, I would say if I, if I, was gonna really pursue this long term. You know, you know you got to get all the sponsors and all the things, because it's expensive For sure, like tennis or golf or any of those individual sports that you have to travel to go do it. And so, yeah, I, I basically, when I went to the first world long drive tour date in Toronto, the I always call him the Phil Jackson of golf or of long drive Cause he's like coached eight of the last 10 world champions, okay, and he's slanging these clubs, and I was like, well, this is what these guys are hitting. Yeah, I need one and I I won 750 bucks usd 750 bucks easy buy. So, yeah, and so you know, most guys are using a little bit flexier and I just wanted something I could try to control, yeah, right off the bat.
Speaker 3:And you know, I would say if I was going to do anything I probably would have bought three of them. But again, I'm not going to invest $2,000, $3,000 bucks when I already did that to get there. Yeah and yeah, just having fun trying to control it. It's wild, that's for sure.
Speaker 1:Four degrees doesn't give you a whole lot of room to forgive, but but we got a little shout out there yeah, what's the sticker?
Speaker 3:Jeff Keenan passed away last year in the Avalanche. You know kind of a legend in the snowboard community and I got the sticker at his celebration of life and I figured what a better place to put it as a reminder to kind of live your life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely Keeping with you, yeah, yeah. Now you get to shoot these balls off into the sunset with them Precisely, precis.
Speaker 3:Yeah, now you get to shoot these balls off into the sunset with them precisely precisely not a bad view to be able to hit golf balls too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd say, between here, whistler, fairmont could be worse, you know that could be worse favorite place you've been able to travel to with sport? I know montreal might be your favorite if you were having off day. But does that include?
Speaker 3:yeah, pre pre meeting my wife, montreal, was pretty freaking awesome and even afterwards it was pretty awesome as well Food scene, party scene 21 to 28,. I was living there. Favorite place that, I would say the favorite place that sports has taken me was when I was playing football at Eastern Washington. My first ever start as a linebacker, playing college football, was against west virginia, when they were ranked number five in the nation with two heisman trophy candidates. We lost 57 to 3, I think it was.
Speaker 3:It's hard to remember because a bit of a blur, bit of a blur, and my I would say it was one of those like welcome to the league moments where first drive a guy that's named owen schmidt. He played for the seahawks for a bunch of years. You may have remembered him. He like had, he like did this thing where he hit his face with his face mask and his blood was coming down. So he had seahawks fans that had these like t-shirts that said get schmidt faced and I did that my first drive against him.
Speaker 3:He caught like a little you know, turned around, stiff-armed me in the eye. I was blind for five minutes. It was like 35, 40 degrees Humidity was crazy In West Virginia, 65,000 people screaming, and then you know, john Denver's, west Virginia or whatever, it's country roads. So at the end of the game the whole stadium's just jacked up screaming. That's at the top of their lungs and it gives me goosebumps to this day. Yeah, just thinking about that moment of being like, wow, this was, this is quite an experience and you know, from that point forward I really learned that you can do anything regardless of what you're going through in that moment, and I was able to, you know, catapult that into you know a, you know successful Canadian football league career.
Speaker 3:And then, post football, I've been, you know, shooting my gun from the hip and kind of living in the wild, wild west entrepreneurship yeah, throwing axes, throwing axes and snowballs and golf balls and you know, just providing value for, for team building and corporate events and mostly just trying to provide some perspective in the personal development world.
Speaker 1:Yeah and yeah, man, it's been, it's been a blessing what's with the washington state linebackers you, adam big hill, had on the pod, yeah, yeah biggie was still a baller I know that guy's, he, I think he might even be older than me, I don't know but yeah, I had him on, he was episode 29 or something. Oh really. And so back in the day, during almost pre-COVID times, when he was with the Lions. No, I grew up watching him play the Lions, if you want to get really into it, like him Travis Lulee G Roy.
Speaker 2:Simon.
Speaker 1:Paul McCallum, all those guys but he this is when he was with winnipeg, okay, and yeah, I mean he was a legend growing up watching and he's still playing asleep. That one's mind-boggling.
Speaker 3:But he he mentioned that he was washington as well, and it's like small world that yeah, he went to central, which is where my dad went and played football as well, and I mean it is, and as you've had so many of these conversations with so many accomplished athletes, it's like it's just a platform for you to. You know, you've been able to endure and teach yourself how to show up for your teammates or for yourself if you're an individual athlete, and that just teaches you so much about yourself and what you're able to. You know, push yourself through just with the right mindset. And you know that's what you know, my, I would say always, like on Father's Day, I always call, like all my old coaches, because I'm like you guys were the ones that raised me. You know, my parents raised me, my aunts and uncles raised me, but you know you spend so much time with these people. They become a part of the fabric of who you are and, yeah, and that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1:That's cool. Let's hit some more golf balls.
Speaker 3:But that's cool, let's hit some more golf balls.
Speaker 1:Let's do it, let's do it, let's do it. That's something that I'm going to take with me, because I do have, you know, coaches in my life that were definitely impactful 100%.
Speaker 3:You know they probably Shout out Todd Burnett.
Speaker 1:Vancouver.
Speaker 3:College legend.
Speaker 1:BCC.
Speaker 3:Yeah, something like that. All right, let's see if Keep a couple straight, keep a couple straight here, but that's no fun, right?
Speaker 1:Do you prefer hitting a draw or a fade?
Speaker 3:I like hitting it right onto the green or a hook that one's a good one too.
Speaker 1:What's your natural ball flight, my?
Speaker 3:natural ball flight, I would say is probably depends on the club. Oh, okay, with my driver I would say it's more of a fade than a draw. Okay, but I can control my draw better. My fade is just kind of comes naturally with my swing, yeah, and then my the draw. I'm like I'm like if I want to hit the draw and like I try and hit the draw, then I'm hitting the draw. If I'm trying to hit a fade, I don't. I got no control.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair enough. Not as much control, all right, let's see how this ball goes. Yeah, don't I got no control. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair enough, not as much control with all right.
Speaker 3:Let's see how this ball goes yeah, don't hit it hard, just hit it, it was a straight.
Speaker 3:So you know, like I said, I've been in the team building space for like a lot last decade, yeah, and there's a couple of like coaching cues. When I'm coaching ax throwing or anything, yeah, and I'm like my biggest thing if it's a big corporate event, there's 150 people standing in front of me and I'm doing a big you know do or whatever. And I'm like is anybody golf here? Right, it's a key. I'm basically just getting to the story of me telling them I can, I can smash balls, yeah. But I said, does anyone anyone golf here? And they're like, yeah, and I was like what happens when you try and hit a golf ball as hard as you can at the driving range around the course? What happens? They're like it goes in the woods. I'm like it's the same thing here. You're trying to hit the bullseye and you're trying to throw it as hard as you can. What's happening to it? It's going into the ground, yeah, so just take it easy and see what happens there you go.
Speaker 1:What's your swing speed coming in at?
Speaker 3:I think I'm probably in like the 135, 40, somewhere in there, but my ball speed PR is 221. 221?, 221. And my distance PR from last year was 429. But at the World Championships I hit 397.
Speaker 1:Okay, how good did that? The?
Speaker 3:winning set. So the winning? Basically it's like round-robin play. So you're playing, you're hitting with four other guys, you're hitting six balls and you get points for whatever right, mm-hmm, and then you move through to the match play round, which is then, you know, one versus one, and so on the last set, the world champion hit 413, and the guy who came in second, who's now ranked number one, jack Smith, he hit 412. So you know you're right in the mix. So you know you're right. But it's consistency. Yeah, right, you got to show up, hit a straight ball, consistently, and that's going to give you a better chance to move through the rounds. But yeah, I mean, last year I hit 412 in one of my round robin sets and the guy hit 416 and I came second and that that's what knocked me out, right. So I just love that. It's like it was. You know, it's four guys, just our size dudes. Yeah, all standing on the t-box looking at each other like hey, like if, mono, mono two guys move through the top, the bottom two, they're going home.
Speaker 3:Yeah, change your flights, you're headed back, yeah. And so, like you talked about the bravado and the machismo of, like you know, athletics, when I saw that you know bryson and martin, you know screaming and you know getting hyped up, and I was like okay, like I like that that's kind of cool, yeah. And then, you know, I was able to have a moment like that when I was in Toronto at the tour stop there and I made it to the amateur finals and it's like me and one other dude shout out to Tanner Pipes, he's a I think he's like number six on the amateur tour, right now what?
Speaker 3:a great name. I know I told him that, yeah, great name for it. And you know I was able to scream at a couple of golf balls. I was like, okay, this is I, like this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, okay, how good did that 429 feel.
Speaker 3:Oh my, I think I hit 420 right before it. So I was like, as expected, yeah, yeah, okay, let's hit a little fade for you here, cutting Something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, felt good, eh. Yeah, you got to get the same software that these guys are using to track the golf ball, hey, or is it capable of tracking yours?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:A little draw. Maybe he's feeling nice now. Oh yeah, how uh.
Speaker 3:Good thing you get six balls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you gotta live with that, though when you're swinging that.
Speaker 3:But everyone does it, I'm not alone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly what are your cues? If you were like three cues that keep your hands high or you get into a certain point, what's?
Speaker 3:your I would say takeaway is key. There we go. Takeaway is key. Okay, standing tall for me, yeah, you know, not trying to be too off balance, yeah, so really standing like strong over the ball because your size you're probably size similar, but you're not like tall.
Speaker 3:But I'm saying I'm saying I'm probably like I'm same weight media like heavier guy. I'm probably one of the heavier guys, yeah, but I mean there's some guys that are out there 280, yeah, 6263, yeah. Then there's, you know, world champion sean johnson. Last year, six, seven, looks like randy johnson. Yeah, looks like he might even be his kid, I don't know. Got a bit of elasticity there, okay, and but you know, the jack ronnie shin, all these guys, they're the same. You know, they're probably 5, 10, 5, 9, but they're just college golfers that can just strike it and stand tall over the Right, right. But it's consistency, yeah, all right, there you go. It's down there. It's not on the grid, though. Yeah, how tight's that grid? Well, the first one I went to, I think it was about 37 yards at 400. What so? Not too wide, yeah, that's, and it kind of rolled out to the left, so everyone was kind of aiming to land on the right or in the middle so they gave it a chance to stay in, yeah.
Speaker 3:And then at the World Championships it was kind of a funky grid because you were hitting back on a par 5 from the clubhouse, oh. And you know, it kind of went up grid because you're hitting back on a par five from the clubhouse, oh, and you know like kind of went up to the green and yeah, it was just like I mean it was. It was a huge, huge fairway, but then once you got past like 380 and same thing, it was right, there was a, there was water on the left, so that's mind fuck right there yeah for sure, all right, come on, buddy.
Speaker 1:Slow and steady. Nice, what was that cue there? Slow landing, slow and steady, slow and steady.
Speaker 3:You know my takeaway is before you showed up. I couldn't hit a ball straight.
Speaker 1:No, were you in your head a bit, were you nervous.
Speaker 3:You're my lucky charm.
Speaker 1:There we go, there we go, that's better.
Speaker 3:Well, like I said, I've got to take my own advice. You try and hit it as hard as you can. That's crazy. You're hitting it into the woods, right oh no, crazy. Hitting it into the woods right, oh no, yeah. So I think the best part, the reassuring part, when I showed up last year was that you know again, you're shanking every eight out of every 10 balls right.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's like defeating it's not landing on the grid, yeah, right, it's like it's in the woods, yeah, but everyone was doing that, right, you know the guy that I'm like, oh, I know that I've been watching this guy on instagram for a year. Yeah, and he's shanking the balls. Yeah, right, he's hooking the ball. He's, you know, hitting it into the net over there, yeah, and so that gave me a lot of confidence to be able to, like, step up, be on the deck, hit, hit some balls that land in. And you know, know that I'm just there to kind of figure everyone out and like, what's going on with this league? How does this work? Who do I need to know? What do I need to know? Yeah, and and then, you know, not take it so seriously that I'm in my head all the time, and so that's what my coach was saying. He was like, like I said, he's like, your composure, you know, was the reason why I gave you the invite.
Speaker 3:It's not because you were hitting balls farther than everyone else or you're more consistent, it's because I got up there, I took a deep breath, I wasn't nervous, I had all my stuff organized, I just watched, and then by the second day, I was like, okay, I know exactly what I need to do when I'm up there. Right, I gotta take my freaking you know 60s every time I hit the ball. Okay, every time I hit the ball, I'm up here, okay, I would grab the next ball, I would tee it up, and then I would come back and go through my sequence every single time. Yeah, you know so that I could Really just not take it. You know, not try, hit it too hard and that sort of thing. Just, you know, do my little thing and boom.
Speaker 1:I'm hitting the grid. Yeah yeah for you. How good does it feel to just get back competing again?
Speaker 3:well, you know, you have. You have some as a young buck from 2022, I'm in the gray cup yeah, two-time gray cup champ two-time gray cup champ.
Speaker 3:We went three years in a row, yeah, and so, like that was my expectation was to be, you know, on the biggest stage and being able to after a decade of being off and just raising a family and trying to, you know, make an income and that sort of thing having an outlet where that isn't the gym. You know that I'm like, okay, and I've always been able to smash balls, yeah, right, I mean, when I was four, when I was seven years old, I was trying to. My first golf lesson was right over there at that hut, yeah, and I've always been chasing my dad's balls, right, I've always, you know. And my dad, he's had two knee surgeries, two ACL surgeries on both his knees, so he never really used his legs when he was swinging. It was always like a super controlled, like upper body swing.
Speaker 3:And then when I got to, you know, 12, 13, 14, I'm using my grandma's clubs that are super whippy and they're just. I couldn't control them. And then I started using my grandma's clubs that are super whippy and they're just fine, I couldn't control them, yeah. And then I started using my dad's stiff driver and I started smashing it past them, and so I've always been competing on the golf course, but having fun at the same time, yeah, and the ability to get out here, you know, first couple tries at a tournament and compete with, you know, some of the best guys in the world and watch them perform, but also be able to perform at that level, was, oh, so much juice, right.
Speaker 3:It made me think like okay, like ryan riesbeck he's I'm gonna say he's probably 52, 53, he's on the tour right now and I'm like okay, like maybe I can do this for four, five, six years, yeah, you know. And like golf is blowing up right now and why isn't long drive in on lift? Can we get paid 250 million dollars please? Yeah, that'd be nice. Golf balls are expensive, these days.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that would certainly be nice. Could definitely use a couple extra million man. It's not often I feel very, very incapable of competing with someone else on the range there, but yeah, when I hit one good. I'm like it's at least 30, 40, 50, 60 yards short.
Speaker 2:I'm wearing yours.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how much? What's the difference? What do we got here? Oh, there you go, I might miss the golf ball here we'll switch you go. Okay, what are we working with on a shafts? Holy dina, okay, all right, alright, folks. Oh yeah, that one's. Oh my god, yeah, that's four degrees, yeah.
Speaker 3:But I would say, maybe put it a little bit forward in your stance a little bit, a little bit more. On the upswing.
Speaker 1:Are you going like right off the toe? Yep, yep. Chris McClure, I gotta give him a shout out. He's my golf coach when I go to toronto he teaches me up. I didn't see it. You, that's right, but that's crazy that is so long.
Speaker 3:Wow, this is. I've been hitting tailor-made for the last decade, so this is nice, feels nice, just the club head.
Speaker 1:Wow, paradigm, long drive, there you go. Yeah, that one's might be on top of that range. Wow, that one was piped Nice ball. Do you find that, despite adding a bit more distance, this can add a bit more? Maybe mis-accuracy? Yeah, ah Right, it's kind of wild, that's crazy, though I feel like that ball is going to roll a mile afterwards too. Yeah, wow, keep going. I need one more.
Speaker 3:It he's got to hit one straight to hit one that's got a bit of.
Speaker 1:I just need to turn. I got to be a little bit more patient. You had the right cues. I gotta just get a bit more. There we go, there we go Crazy though You've got like another 40, 50 yards on that every time.
Speaker 3:That's insane.
Speaker 1:I like that club, though it's not bad hey.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, wow, that's an humbling. See, shay, I got to tell you one of the best parts about this. I didn't realize it at the time when I started the podcast, but I get to do stuff like this as part of the job quote, unquote and it not only is it humbling, it's rewarding, because you get to see how people operate. Like you said there, it is geez so similar ball shape. Just an extra 70 yards on whatever I just did.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 3:Top of the hill over there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Wow, so that's probably 350, 60, somewhere in there.
Speaker 1:I don't know. These are probably taking off at least 10, 15%, eh the range balls, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you know, when you catch it and everyone's like, oh, that's a. And you're like, oh my god, I've never hit a ball like that, yeah, it's awesome. So I mean to your question around like that, the competitive piece earlier today I was like man, like I feel like I'm 20. Yeah, you know my, I don't. My knees don't hurt, my back doesn't hurt, my elbows don't hurt, wrist don't hurt, neck doesn't hurt. I'm like you know I can do this. Yeah, right, if I was in pain, be a different story.
Speaker 1:So how does your training now look compared to as a 25 year old in the cfl? Like give us through a day in life, yeah, or like a week. So volume.
Speaker 3:I'm not doing as much running. You might tell it's a little, I'm a little thicker on their edges here, but yeah. So right now I would say I'm about two 50, two 55, somewhere in there. And I would say, ideally I'd love to be around two 35, two 40, cause it's a speed sport. Yeah, but you know, having the mass behind it all helps, yeah. And so let's say my training has changed, because I'm not doing as much like on field work, and then you don't get the the build up to training camp where you're going to lose 15 pounds in training camp and eat it right back. But I'm just trying to be the same sort of explosive Playing linebacker. I'm in that same position where I want to be able to move quick with my hips and do all the dynamic movements.
Speaker 3:But I would say I'm in the gym, I'm riding my you know, mountain biking with my kids, nice, and just trying to, just trying to stay healthy. Yeah, yoga, lots of stretching, you know, trying to stay off the off the stuff, you know. And uh, and you know just like building up this year will be different than last year, because last year, you know, didn't stop drinking, was still smoking a little bit of weed. And so, you know, this year I'm just taking a little bit more of a holistic, healthy approach towards trying to show up and be explosive and be, you know, my best self, right, right, and you know, as we all do every single day, being able to have a coach as my wife, yeah, she's like I think we are. We already know what the what the prep needs to be changed or how the prep needs to be changed, right, and, and I knew that internally it's just accountability partner, when you're not getting paid to do it, you're just like, hey, I just want to, I'm just here to have fun. You know it changes. When you're like I actually want to go win, yeah, and like, of course, last year, I'm like I'm a competitor, yeah, I want to win.
Speaker 3:Dress for the job you want, I went there billion dollar. My wife and I would say it's billion dollar brand. I was like applying for all these big jobs and she's like. I walked out of the house one day and she looked at me. She's like this is not a billion dollar brand and I was like, okay, okay, okay, okay. So we, we have this. You know this adage where we're just like that's how you got to treat yourself Right. Would you hire yourself right now, right, and I'm like, yeah, right, so being able to have those conversations as a accountability partner, as a mirror, and, you know, at the same time, be able to, you know, continue to have those same conversations that I had when I was playing.
Speaker 3:It's like, hey, did you do enough film? Were you in the tub? Did you lift the way that you needed to lift this week? Have you done as much work as you can before stepping onto the field and playing free? If you're not prepared and you didn't get as much sleep and you ate the wrong food, and you know how you're going to feel, you're going to feel lethargic, you're not going to be as fast because you're going to be playing, you're going to be thinking too much, yeah, and so you know that paying attention to the details in preparation and not and not overthinking it and in action, it's like kind of a good balance between you know, soak it all in, right, yeah, so that when you show up to work, you're like, no, I got this, I know exactly what's happening here. I got all my sticky tape and my extra gloves and my towels and my ice cold water and it's all in the right place.
Speaker 3:And you know I've been here before. Yeah, right, so just do that. And you know, put it all out there, yeah, and so that's, that's really been my, my. My biggest learning is that I'm just grateful that I'm able to, you know, still have a good physical specimen to be able to go and compete. Yeah, and you know, just having the opportunity to go and do that is, you know, to like to go to the world championships, yeah it's a pretty big deal, I'm telling people like what you're, like what of course you would be.
Speaker 3:What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:yeah, what else would you be doing? Yeah, it's not like you've been not playing Canadian football for 10 years, like professionally playing one sport, being able to take a decade off.
Speaker 1:Like you said, raise a family and then transition into another professional sport is practically unheard of. Yeah, it does happen. People do it. Are there specific things that you think you did growing up ie playing multiple sports that allowed you to do that? Was it like a knowledge around nutrition from a young age? Were there any parents that had an involvement around like your work ethic mindset?
Speaker 3:like yeah, that's what I'm, my mom and dad were, are both still coaches, okay. So my mom has been a track volleyball coach in the vancouver area for four decades. She's retired. And then all the kids were like you're driving us nuts, you got to go back and continue coaching. She's gifted at, you know, building programs from the ground up and bringing them to you know, provincial championship status and and so, and then with my dad, I just got that insane like just do the work, show up, do the work and, you know, let everything sort itself out.
Speaker 3:So I was very gifted in that sense where in my home I had two coaches to, you know, reflect on my work, ethic, right, and just, you know, to be able to show me the way. And you know, I think right now my like I was a track guy, so flexibility, I was flexible, played basketball, so I could, you know. And then I moved into football and soccer and I did all the sports Right, like you know, like all the best athletes in the. And I did all the sports right, like you know, like all the best athletes in the world that's what I'm trying to preach, though.
Speaker 1:Right, that's I literally. So the goal for the podcast when I started educate, entertain and inspire the next generation of athletes like. I grew up playing hockey, basketball, golf, baseball, soccer, you name it. I played it, not at the professional level, but I felt like I could chop it up enough and I wanted to be like hey, this is what you need to do, because this specialization from the age of six is not working and kids are getting hurt. Yeah and oh, by the way, when they turn 23 and they know nothing other than one sport, they become a one-dimensional individual, precisely, and we're not preparing them for life after sport, which is the exact opposite of thing that sport is supposed to be doing, correct?
Speaker 3:yeah so that's, that's a beautiful mission.
Speaker 3:I think there's many people that you know are how old are you? 28, 28? You know many people and you know that have kind of like, done their youth amateur sport and now understand what it takes to reach the next level. Because you know, we've been listening to Wayne Gretzky tell us this for 40 years hey, I played all the sports right and I was lucky enough that I just played all the sports as it was. And you know my coach, my dad, you know he was an Olympic trials decathlete. So I was doing the decathlon in grade three. Yeah, I was doing every weekend in the summer. I was doing 11, 12 events. You were Damien Warner, I was doing it all, yep.
Speaker 3:And so you know, when it came to my professional football career, I was the backup long snapper, I was the backup kicker, I was a backup punter and I was a starting middle linebacker and I could run down any special teams, because that's how I earned my way there. Yeah, and you know being able to make plays in open space, because you know that's how. What I did with soccer I was, like, you know, playing defense and basketball. It's the same thing. Yeah, it's like, oh, I just gotta keep this guy. He's not getting, yeah, right and. And so that's how I'm raising my kids and we're really entering that age of team sport.
Speaker 3:You know, my son's 10, daughter's 9, and so this year has been the year of exposure. So it's like pivotal big concerts, big sporting events, like going to all, like going to all the cfl games in vancouver we can, nice. We went to one in toronto last year. We went to the harry jerome track meet, yeah, where my daughter was like I love this, I'm doing triple jumping and hurdles. I'm like, yes, nice, you know, and just being able to like show them the way, yeah, not to mention, we live in Whistler and they're mountain biking and skiing and they're happy being at the top of a peak and, you know, doing that sort of thing. And so, just again, trusting the process for us is really the key here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for us is really the key here, yeah, and I think that the mission that you're after is really, you know, there's so many, like I said, so many folks that are just really wanting their kids to do many things because of that one quote that wayne gretzky said, or or what have you, and you know that that specialization. Like, hey, I know how to, I can, I can, I got great wrist shots right but like, can you catch a? Can you catch a pass with your stick over your shoulder? Because you played football in high school as well, or basketball, right, and that's where it's, like you know, I don't know about Conor Bernard if he played high school basketball or whatever, cause he's just, he's just amazing.
Speaker 3:But, like you know, if you're trying to make it, you're going to be really in this transition piece where this period of transition sorry, where these coaches and the administrators are seeing the feedback of the specialization and like the over coaching and over parenting of the coach you know that part, that part and where you know people are really wanting to give them a positive sport experience so that maybe they come and give back to sport in the future, and yeah, and so it's an exciting time yeah, we'll have to introduce your daughter to Miriam Abdul Rashid.
Speaker 1:She's the 12th ranked hurdler in the world oh, yes, canadian.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I saw that podcast on your page there yeah, we represent her for Cook Stark management.
Speaker 1:okay, so we have a few dozen PWHL players, olympians et cetera, and so Miriam will be one. We'll have to introduce her to her.
Speaker 3:And she's in Toronto.
Speaker 1:She is in Toronto, okay, so next time we'll make that happen, and Miriam would love to give her some lessons. Yeah, she's going to teach me how to do it too, but I feel like your daughter will pick it tough, I know she's gonna have to compete with her grandma, my daughter's grandma, my mom.
Speaker 3:Who's like she? That's, that's how she she literally brought the hurdles home and put them in the backyard, and she's like this is how it works. And so, from a young age, I was just always doing it. But, you know, being able to have the connections that sport provides me, to connect with you, to connect, it's like that's what it's all about, right, and and you know, I think, as a canadian, I'm it's. You know, we're in such an amazing like part of the canadian, of canadian sport history, with so much success look at a summer pinnacle, pinnacle, pinnacle right everything you name the sport.
Speaker 3:Right you got guys you know whether it's soccer or swimming or or basketball, or baseball or football. Right, you got guys that are at the top and I and I'm like it's just exciting to see that happen, because you know I got a son and I got a daughter and I want them to push sport and I and I'm like it's just exciting to see that happen because you know I got a son and I got a daughter and I want them to push sport and I want them to push arts and I want them to push, I want them to do it all yeah, it was the first time ever, the mvp of every sport of the big four sports.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's freddie freeman. They were all canadian. Freddie freeman, who would nhl would have beenay.
Speaker 3:Yeah and nhl. I don't who was it. I can't remember, I'm not I don't edit that in.
Speaker 1:I don't have a tv at home? Really no okay, so this brings up a good like segment. It's like what fun facts do people not know about shay emory? Like okay, you know, they assume football player, they don't assume that you're giving a TED Talk at Loyola. Yeah, yeah, I got one.
Speaker 3:Okay, so what do people not know about Shea? Emery? Well, I am a professional snowball maker.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 3:What goes into professional snowball making? Well, I've made me and my team my team and I have made over 250,000 real snowballs. Because when I started my axe throwing company and I did that for about four or five years I was like how do I like diversify my offerings as a business owner here? And so I created a snowball fight experience, so essentially like paintball, but with snowballs, yeah. And so like next week I'm actually at a golf tournament for this snowboard youth snowboard fundraiser called the chill foundation, okay, and so I'm going to be on a t-box. People come up. I'm like, hey, my name is shay and I'm going to tell this story. You're going to throw a snowball at this target over here. If you hit a bullseye, I get a golf ball hit for you. I'm going to the world championships. So I actually am a professional snowball maker very cool, very cool.
Speaker 1:And so these snowballs are, of what size?
Speaker 3:they're typical standard baseball snowballs.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, and so I imagine you looking like Elf, the scene from Elf where he's got a bunch of snowballs.
Speaker 3:I don't dress up in spandex to do it, even though these are pretty tight.
Speaker 1:I feel like that's a miss on your part. I feel like you got to make that happen. Maybe that adds next week to what you put out on the table. Yeah, and I feel like, hey, if you're going for virality with your content listen listen, that's.
Speaker 3:That's a pretty unique opportunity I've heard that, I've heard that up that commentary before and I've never done it. But uh, for my, my son's birthday party two years ago, we did like a basically like angry birds, minecraft themed snowball fight, so like my son's, wearing a helmet and a mask and he's running the gauntlet and all the kids are like slingshotting snowballs at him and he's just like I mean, I'm just having fun, man, you know. Yeah, that's the way it should be. Speaking of which?
Speaker 1:what's ideal launch angle do you have?
Speaker 3:like, I'm sure you have those ideal numbers in mind I mean, it really just depends on, I guess, what you're going for. It's on what the what the wind is doing. Yeah right, what the what the grid's like, if it's? You know if it's on a soccer pitch, or you know if it's a hard. You know if it's a hard, uh fairway that I'm hitting onto and it's on a soccer pitch, or you know if it's a hard. You know if it's a hard, uh fairway that I'm hitting onto and it's got a good roll to it yeah, it depends on if you're hitting a draw, fade, whatever the difference.
Speaker 1:That's a. Yeah, I guess there's. I like to think of it as you've almost eliminated all the variables in with golf, in the sense that you're just using one club, but it's still Okay. So why'd you open the stance significantly more there? That one's ridiculous oh.
Speaker 3:Right on the deck.
Speaker 1:It's a good thing that guy left. That was there earlier.
Speaker 3:His white Tundra would have been smashed.
Speaker 1:Yeah. What was the question Open stance there been smashed. Yeah, what was the question? Open stance there versus closed.
Speaker 3:What was the difference you've done? You've manipulated a couple different there, I've seen. Yeah, with that one I was trying to open it up just a little bit, oh there you go.
Speaker 1:It's so crazy, though, because I'm still gonna be so short, so bunch.
Speaker 3:It's. You know, you're what. What are you at right now, loft-wise.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nine and a half. Yeah, nine and a half. Yeah, it's like disadvantage. Yeah, I know, but I'm a competitor, shay, come on, I'm going to try and hit down on that golf ball. There you go, just like.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Turned my three iron into a one iron.
Speaker 3:Yeah, turned my three iron into a one iron, yeah, but you know I'm learning all this stuff right, I haven't been spending too much time on the golf course the last couple of years.
Speaker 3:I really had I had. You know, I'm like a grown up with golfing parents, grandparents on both sides. Like I said, my grandfather was friends with the owner of this course and we were around golf, yeah, and you know any golf, any garage that I would go into, whether it was my grandparents in washington state or in california and palm springs, or here in in west van or my house, there was golf clubs like galore, yeah. And so I, you know, I got I got a great touch when I'm on the course and I can smash the ball because I'm genetically gifted being a big dude, right, and so, yeah, like I was just like so grateful to have that experience growing up, where now it's like I'm just learning the data of the game. Okay, I'm like one of these guys. There's a wind coming from right, I don't have a, I don't have a range finder, I, you know like I I roll up to in my golf cart, that's like at least one, that's 145.
Speaker 1:And they're like, oh, it's 146, i'm'm like, yeah, okay, that yard was not going to make a difference for me, but hey, I think there's a level of that being a benefit when you're not thinking about the game too much.
Speaker 3:Well, like I said, pay attention to the details that you can, but don't overthink it.
Speaker 1:You see that one lost it. Yeah, all right, let's sit down on this fucking wall there we are.
Speaker 3:But you know, I had, uh, like I said, I had, you know, a very generous individual coach who tutored me into the game last year and showed me the way.
Speaker 1:See, this is the beautiful part about the fact that I'm building a studio, too, in Langley. Oh you are? Yeah, I'll just be able to get people in person. Like, the Jeep is phenomenal to be able to travel to people, get them in person, but there's also something about sitting down, I think it's.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna probably incorporate some type of like every period or some type of quarter segment you know where we drive, pick the guest up, we do a little lift, we do their sport lift, run shoot baby exactly, you're familiar with cam haynes, you know the vibes, but I don't want to be as consistent as lift run shoot will say it'll be a lift, yeah, and then whatever their sport is, lift sport, pod kind of vibe, I guess would be the best way to describe it. Better, nope, no, better, nope, no. I was actually so thrilled that we were on the range instead of playing, because I tend to hit it better on the range than I do on the course.
Speaker 1:Oh Got over it, those I just do for the clips that one was low enough where I think the camera got that one. Those ones are just for the clips.
Speaker 3:Let's see A couple of stingers here, just like that.
Speaker 1:Yo, yeah, I actually finished my swing. See, it's great.
Speaker 3:That was your driver of the day right there. But and so you're building a studio. You've got six years under your belt. The how are you going to differentiate yourself from everything else that's out there on the market when it comes to podcast vlogging? Right, you're in the mix. You're on all the platforms. You know I see it, I watch. You know my wife bugs me. She's like you're on all the platforms. You know I see it, I watch, I'm on. You know my wife bugs me. She's like you're on your phone too much. I'm paying attention, I gotta pay attention to what's happening and and so like, yeah, what do you? What's your next step?
Speaker 1:I mean the. What you got to lean to is ultimately being you right and the differentiating factor about the athletes podcast is that I'm hosting it and I get to chat with folks like yourself. I think that's called fatigue and we get to do stuff like this. There's a lot of just golf vloggers out there, a lot of just hockey, golf or hockey vloggers out there. That's the one, yeah, so I opened up stats as soon as I'm hooking too much is that one landing on that might land on?
Speaker 1:no, a little short, too much spin yeah, I I haven't necessarily been able to lean in as much to that aspect of like. Like let's go on the football field and you take me through what training camp looked like for a day, or if it's on the range, or if it's finley knox olympic swimmer, like yeah let's go in the pool.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna look like a fool, but yeah it's. I think I want to make sure that that next generation of athletes knows like, hey, this guy, who theoretically did not have any athletic background, is able to go and hit golf balls with a world-long driver, is able to bench press with the world's strongest man, yeah, play pickleball with the world's best pickleball player, like those are kind of things that who's the world's best pickleball player?
Speaker 3:Ben Johns, ben Johns, eh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, that one was high.
Speaker 3:I played in like a celebrity pickleball tournament a couple months ago and when we started the racket club in Whistler we had 30 members.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And then by the end of it, when I left my tenure there, we had 700. And I would say 80% of them were pickleball players because we ran all these camps. Steve Deacon I think he's top 50. He's 50 as well. I got to partner with him for our charity tournament. I'm playing with Steve Deacon. I'm like, oh my God, this is so much fun. It's such a great sport.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it. I just had April Hutchinson on oh right, great sport. Yeah, yeah, it's I love. I just had, uh, april hutchinson on his uh oh right after you'll, you know, then she's getting into pickleball as well. Yeah, I think that's the sport of the future for sure, because everyone can play it. Yeah, I like she could probably kick my ass you know, my grandma could kick my butt if she plays it. Well enough, right, like, if I go into aggressive. That I love that sport. But that's, uh, to answer your question, I think the way plus, I've only been doing it at like, you know it's a, it's still the passion project. Yeah, I haven't been able to lean into it fully, david my wife is.
Speaker 3:She was the founder of a place called blow blow dry bar. Do you know, blow? No, you're not. You're not getting your hair done anyways. So dev was is a successful entrepreneur from by the age of 21, and so we got asked she was getting asked so much to do so many, so many mentorship coaching calls, yeah. And so that's how sphere started was because she's like how do I simplify this whole experience of being a coach from remote?
Speaker 2:locations and yeah and time.
Speaker 3:Okay, this is the last ball of the day, best ball okay, last ball, best ball gotta hit the roof ah, that's all right, that was still ripped.
Speaker 1:That's a good one to end on. What have you, hey, thank you appreciate your time. Like seriously, no, this is like. So tell me more about sphere, what's like?
Speaker 3:because I felt like it's not just for hairdressers, if I'm mistaken so the whole thing is that when she because of her, how young she was, you know, when you're 24, 25 and everyone's now starting their podcast or their studio or their gym or their whatever you know dev was getting asked to do so much guidance and coaching, and so what she did is she basically made it simpler for the coach to facilitate the coaching through the application that we created, which is called sphere, and now we have 400 coaches worldwide that use our app, like uber drivers use uber so they connect with our clients and we're able to make a larger impact without jeopardizing all of our time to be able to do it dang, so it's like a marketplace and platform okay
Speaker 1:a curated marketplace of like best in class coaches good for you proper language and verbiage yeah, wow, okay, well, we'll have to uh figure out a way that we can either direct people there or, yeah, 100, no, that's. Uh. This is part of why we do these things, you know. Beautiful, thank you. Oh, that's the roof. Are you happy with your last ball, babe? Nope, that's the roof ball, though, oh, if it hangs on, catch a piece Before I let you go. Biggest piece of advice for the next generation of athletes if you were to leave it here today, what would it be?
Speaker 3:Pay attention to the details, but don't over.
