Work Life Balance for Speech Pathologists: Mindful Time Management Tips for Therapists, Clinicians, & Private Practice Owners

115. Crushing It or Just Masking? The Hidden Burnout Plaguing SLPs

• Theresa Harp

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From the outside, you look fine. Maybe you’re the SLP who’s always polished, always on time, always hitting deadlines. Or maybe you’re the one quietly behind — reports late, notes piled up, emails unanswered — but still working hard to appear as if you’ve got it together.

Either way? It’s exhausting. And it’s what we call masking.

In this episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on the hidden burnout so many SLPs are carrying — whether you’re overachieving to keep up appearances or working overtime just to look like you’re keeping up.

Here’s what we’ll cover:

  • Two of the most common faces of masking for SLPs (and why both are unsustainable)
  • Why masking feels safer in the moment, but silently drains your energy and confidence
  • The overlap between ADHD, executive dysfunction, and masking in professional life
  • How to recognize the gap between what people see and what you’re actually experiencing
  • Practical ways to loosen the mask and reclaim authenticity — without shame and without burning everything down

If you’ve ever thought things like, “They think I’m doing great… but if they only knew...” or "How is it that everyone else can keep up and I'm over here drowning..." this episode is for you. You are not alone, and you don’t have to keep pushing through silently.

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Keywords: SLP burnout, ADHD masking, productivity for speech pathologists, executive dysfunction, work-life balance for SLPs, overwhelmed SLPs



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[00:00:00] Welcome to Work-Life Balance for Speech Pathologists. I'm Theresa Harp, an SLP and Productivity Coach, and this podcast is all about how to build a successful career as an SLP and still have time for yourself and the people and things you love. So if you're ready to ditch stress and burnout for a more balanced and fulfilling life than you are in the right place, let's dive in.

Hey, podcast listeners, SLPs PTs, OTs welcome back to the podcast. It's episode 115. I'm super pumped to be here. I am, I have been looking forward to recording this episode for quite a while, and full disclosure, I'm recording it. It is, uh, the night before school starts for my kids. So I'm getting this episode in like at the.

You know, final hour, uh, which is fine because you know, whatever, it's gonna get out. But I, and I've been like, [00:01:00] I've been really looking forward to talking about this topic. So I, this is sort of like my reward, but it feels good. It feels good to be having adult conversations. The kids and I, my husband, are all home all day just prepping for school.

And you know how it is, just trying to get all the things in order. And, you know, handle any last minute changes or like surprises or mishaps, whatever. So everybody's nestled in bed and now I get to be. Coach an SLP and think like an adult and talk with adults, even though none of you're talking back, which is that actually at this point is kind of nice being able to talk without anyone talking back.

No offense, I would love to talk with you and have you talk back with me, but after the day that I had hearing kids talk back, talk back to back, you know, it's kind of nice to have a little [00:02:00] peace and quiet so. Anyway, this episode, this episode is episode one 15. It is the fourth and final episode of this sort of mini A DHD series that I've been doing.

Uh, however, there was one episode. Last week I squeezed in, um, instead of doing the fourth a DHD topic last week, I went rogue a little bit and talked about something unrelated, but, uh, seemed, it seemed very relevant and timely, which was about what to do when you're sort of in transition mode and overwhelm with life and, you know, work and family and all of that.

So that one is. I think it was useful. It was useful for me. It was really for me, um, in a lot of ways. And so now I'm back on track with this fourth episode on, uh, productivity time management and A [00:03:00] DHD. But here's the thing. If you are listening to this and you don't have a DHD, you don't think that you have a DHD.

Stay with me because everything that I'm talking about in this episode is relevant. If you are a human, like basically, if you are a human, if you have a brain and a heartbeat, then this will relate to you, right? So some of you who are listening to this. You are masters at pulling off the, I've got it all together.

Show, right? Like you are the star performer in that, in that play, right? It is. You are, you are getting it all done, right? You're crushing deadlines, you're submitting reports on time. You're on top of your session notes and you know, your, your, um. Saying Yes, and, and [00:04:00] like staying up super late and, and trying to get it done.

And getting it done no matter what it takes, right? But you're killing yourself on the inside, right? You're externally crushing it from the outside, killing it, but. The inside is a different story, and then there's probably a whole bunch of you that are out there that are listening to this and you don't identify as that person who looks like they have it all together and who really is, you know, showing up and end and having it, you know, air quotes here altogether, but you.

Are like drowning, trying to stay on top of things, and you're behind. You're behind on session notes, you're behind on reports. You [00:05:00] have, you know, lots of started tasks, but very few completed tasks, right? You're overwhelmed, you're running late. But you're smiling, you are saying yes. When people need things from you, you are avoiding asking for help because, not because you don't need it, but because asking for help is is wrong, or it feels like failure.

Or you look around and you see other people are doing it just fine. If they don't need help, if they can do it, why can't I? And so you're not necessarily meeting those expectations. Or meeting all the expectations of whatever you know, idea you have in your mind, or of what your team or your supervisor or your clients need from you.

But you're doing your damnedest and you are, you know, killing yourself in the process of trying to do it [00:06:00] and just constantly feeling like a failure. Right. In both of these scenarios, and I wanna acknowledge too, there's. People, you're gonna fit into, you know, all sorts of different categories here, right?

It's not necessarily one or the other, but with those two scenarios, however they resonate with you, right? The polished one, the superhero, and the, you know, quietly struggling one. Both of those are ways that we hide. This truth of what's actually going on inside it is one appearance on the outside and one appearance on the inside.

So we're gonna talk about this, we're gonna talk about this concept of, of, you know, masking. But this episode is not just about masking. This episode is really about what to do when there is a disconnect between. How you are showing up on the outside and [00:07:00] how you are showing up on the inside. Okay. That's what we're gonna be talking about.

So. I wanna be super clear here. I, this is not an episode that's, you know, I'm, I'm struggling to come up with the right words here. I'm not a therapist, I'm a speech pathologist, but I'm not a therapist, a psychologist, a counselor, like any of that. So I wouldn't be very, very clear here. This. This is me, my personal experience, my professional experience, and you know, the, through the coursework and, um, and learning that I have done over the past four-ish years with coaching and A DHD.

Okay, so. Wanna get that out of the way. And this episode is not just about masking, I think I said that already. It's not about, you know, telling you what masking, you know, really digging into what masking is. I'll, I'll explain it in a second briefly, but it's not about masking what it is and, [00:08:00] and why it matters.

It's actually more of a reflection of how so many of us are performing fine air quotes here, but quietly struggling. And how that gap is costing us way more than we realize. Maybe you realize how much it's costing you, but you don't know how to get out of it. You don't know what to do about it. So that's what we're gonna talk about here tonight too.

Okay, so let's talk about what masking is. Okay. Masking. Is essentially, it's a term that that's used in the A DHD or neurodivergent world, but it's essentially refers to when we are adjusting who we are or hiding who we actually are to seem more acceptable. We're changing the way that we. Show up on the outside, [00:09:00] and I'm not just talking about appearance, but the things that we say, the things that we do, and it, it can look like the things that we say and do.

It can also look like the things that we don't say or don't do. So it's basically, you know, trying to sort of put on this performance, put on this, this show. It's like putting on a mask, right? It's, it's like you get up. In the morning and you put on your SLP mask, like once you, maybe you put it on before you leave the door, maybe you put it on when you walk in the door at work, whatever.

Right? But at some point there is a shift in how you're showing up. And this isn't automatically a problem. And this isn't automatically masking. It's when you know, it's when there is a disconnect between how you're showing up and how you're actually feeling. Thinking internally, that's when it's a problem.

Okay, so we're gonna be talking about that. So let me [00:10:00] though just sort of give you some indicators or information about what this might look like in different ways. Okay? And again, remember I gave you two very different examples at the start of this episode. The sort of. You know, high performer, superhero that on the outside has it all together to everyone you know, and everyone's opinion and everyone's eyes.

But behind the curtain it's a very different story. And then I also gave you the example of those who are just quietly drowning and cannot keep up, but try desperately to keep up and, and say yes to things and you know. Try to be a A people pleaser and a team player, but on the inside they are. They've created these expectations.

Expectations that can't be met, and then you're just suffering on the inside. Okay, [00:11:00] so two very different examples, but both are highly relevant and wherever you kind of land on this, right? Again, this is not all or nothing, but I just kinda wanna remind you of that context. So those of you who sort of fit into that.

First group, the over preparers or the over deliverers, the overachievers. I will add to that, while you may be killing those, you know, meeting those goals, so to speak, not, you know, not just for your clients, but for you, right? Like you might be meeting all those deadlines and, and, and seemingly have it all together.

Yeah, but you could still internally feel behind. You're not feeling successful, you're looking successful, but on the inside, you don't feel successful. You feel incredibly stressed, incredibly anxious, overwhelmed, behind. You're telling yourself I'm behind. It's like sort of like the student, and this was [00:12:00] me, full disclosure, who takes a test and then walks out and like tells themselves and everyone else that they did horribly and got a terrible grade.

I'm sure I felt maybe, maybe passing C at best, but then. You get it back and it's way better than, than what you, than what you shared, right? So even though you're, you're checking all the boxes, you still feel behind, you still feel like you've failed, you still feel like you're not enough. This could also look like you are micromanaging things, especially for those who are in.

Our private practice owners, you know, certain settings will definitely lend themselves more to this than others, but you might be micromanaging, you might be overthinking decisions, what you say, how you say it, how you word an email, right? It's like you look super polished on the [00:13:00] outside, but you're falling apart on the inside.

Or maybe everything at work is going really well, but you're at home. Forget it. It's like a total dumpster fire and you care, it bothers you. Like it's not your norm, it's not what you want it to be. I don't care if your home's a dumpster fire if you don't care. Right. I, that's not what this is about.

That's, that's not the point. But it's like you're falling behind by your own standards in other areas. Okay. And then for those in the, in the other group, right, you are saying yes to things because. You've even when you should or want to say no, sometimes it's because you feel bad. You feel like you've let people down in so many ways that you just have to say yes.

'cause if you don't, it's just going to confirm what you think. They, they think about you, which is, well, yeah, she's a slacker, or, yeah, she doesn't care if she can't handle this. Or like she's, you know, she just shows up and she doesn't actually care about this [00:14:00] job. Right? Whatever you, whatever story you have in your head of what they think about you.

Okay. You might be saying yes to those things because you feel like, okay, maybe it's not that you have to make up for it, so to speak, but you feel like if you say no, then everyone's going to, like, you're exposing yourself. Everyone's gonna know that you are, you know, a failure incompetent, not good at your job, okay?

It might be. Where you are knowing you are well aware that you cannot meet the timelines, the productivity requirements, the expectations of the setting that you're in, but you will not bring that up. You will not ask for help. You won't think [00:15:00] of ways to help yourself or make it easier, because in your head it's just like, well, this is the expectation.

And if they think I should be able to do this, then I should be able to do it. And clearly look at everyone else who works here. They're doing it, so why can't I? I can't ask for help. They're not asking for help. Right. And then maybe you are. You know, sort of putting on this persona while you're at work.

Not even, it could be out shame, but it's not even only out of shame. Sometimes it's out of survival. It's like I'm just gonna show up and I'm gonna present one way and I'm only gonna let them see what I want them to see. Could be colleagues, supervisors, you know, whoever, families, clients that you work with.

Right. I'm just gonna show up the way that I think. They want me to show up, [00:16:00] not who I truly am, not what I'm truly thinking, because it's a survival mechanism. It's like, well, this is how I keep this job. This is how, and I don't think anyone's really thinking about it that way, but some people might be. But it's like, this is how I, this is how it's done.

This is, this is what they're expecting. This is how SOPs are, this is what's required. And so that's how you show up, right? It's survival. 'cause if we need to stay safe, if, if we get noticed, it may be a problem. There's risk involved, especially if they're noticing the things that we don't want them to notice.

Right. So both of these are forms of protection, both categories and both are really taxing, really heavy, cognitively heavy, emotionally heavy, mentally taxing, right? And neither one is sustainable. [00:17:00] In my coaching with clients, we have a three, kind of like a three sided framework, if you will, mindset. And self-awareness systems and strategies.

And the third one is implementation and sustainability. You implement the strategies and we look at how sustainable are they. 'cause anyone can try anything for, you know, a week. Right. 75 hard. Isn't that the thing? Isn't that a thing? And you know, 30 days of, you know, these like 30 day diets or health plans or whatever, right?

Anybody can do something extreme for those short amount of time, for that short amount of time. But when we're talking about sustainability, making this last long term masking like this is not sustainable. What's so ironic, by the [00:18:00] way, I feel like now I'm going on it, I'm going down a little bit of rabbit hole, but listen, this is important.

What is so ironic about this is that for both groups, the masking is essentially to avoid feeling a certain way. It's to say stay, stay safe. It's to avoid feeling unsafe, to avoid feeling. You know, you fill in the blank. Okay. However, in all of our efforts to avoid feeling that way, to avoid being judged, to avoid feeling less than to avoid feeling unsafe, we are actually creating that.

We're creating that reality. Simply by masking, simply by showing up one way out on the outside and a different way on the inside. Because as you're doing this, you don't feel good. You don't feel in either [00:19:00] category, you don't feel good, you don't feel safe, you don't feel respected, you don't feel authentic, you don't feel, you know, validated, like fill in whatever word or words fit for you, but it's not feeling good.

Can we all agree on that? It's not feeling good, so you're already not feeling good because of your efforts to avoid not feeling good. Is this making sense? It's kind of meta, but I hope that you're following me right? All of this is an effort to blend in and to stay safe, but it's creating this. This unhappiness.

So if you're gonna be unhappy either way, why not be yourself and be unhappy, right? Like at least then you're authentic. At least then we can, we can shed that tax of, of what it costs you to show [00:20:00] up as someone who you are not to show up in that role. That's not truly who you are authentically. But I digress.

Okay. So just something to think about. Okay, so if we are on board that this is, this can show up in different ways if we're on board that this is often, this kind of phenomenon is often what we refer to as masking, right? And by the way, while we hear that word thrown around in the neurodivergent world, you do not have to have a DHD to mask.

Okay? You don't. We, whether you have a DHD or not. Surely you can relate to something that I've just shared, right? And, and so don't think that this is only something that people who have a DHD do, okay? I want, I just wanted to make that super clear. However, regardless, [00:21:00] right, whether you have a DHD or don't.

When there is that disconnect between how you are seen and how you feel internally, right? That creates this massive barrier to any semblance of work-life balance, any semblance of work life, harmony, any possibility of being able to. Enjoy both your professional life and your personal life at the same time.

That's why no matter what, if I give you any time management strategy, any productivity strategy to help you, you know, work smarter, not harder, get things done faster, not have to take work home with you, stay on top of deadlines, blah, blah, blah. That's not gonna change the inside. That's only gonna [00:22:00] change the outside.

You think that once you have it quote altogether, you're gonna feel you're gonna feel great, like automatically. Well, I'm meeting deadlines. That's what I wanted, so now I'm gonna feel great. Well, hopefully you understand that that's not necessarily true, right? We have a whole group of people who I've centered this, this episode on who are meeting their deadlines and they're not feeling great, right?

It's not the result that creates. The way you wanna feel, you have to work on that piece. Okay. All right. I digress. Sorry. I told you it's been a while since I've had adult interaction and even though this is not adult interaction, you get, you get my idea. Okay. So if we, if we are kind of on board now with what masking is, how it can show up.

Why it matters. Hopefully you understand why it matters, right? Because you're not enjoying, you're not, you're not loving your role [00:23:00] in, you know, personal or professional life as a result of this, because I know I've given you lots of examples of how we do this in our professional life. Trust me, when I tell you, this happens in our personal life too.

I'm sure you know. Think about it. Think about how this might be true for you in your everyday life. You know, your everyday interactions outside of work for sure. Absolutely. And it costs us, right? It, it means that we are always on, like, we're always on and hypervigilant and like ready to go, never relaxed, and we're, uh, constantly afraid of dropping the ball even when we've already.

Scored like we've already scored the ball's. No longer in our possession. We've scored, but we're still afraid of dropping the ball. Or maybe you already [00:24:00] dropped the ball, right? Maybe you're so afraid of dropping the ball, but oh my gosh, that ball was dropped in the last, I don't know, the last inning.

Right? So. Either way, it's not feeling good. You're feeling disconnected. You're feeling like you're going through the motions. You're like on that hamster wheel. You might feel disconnected from your life, from your family, or your loved ones, or your friends maybe disconnected from your body, right? Like how you are physically feeling your joy.

Maybe you are carrying around this shame that is just growing. Right, but no one even knows that you're carrying it. And this leads to burnout. Either a group of you, either category or anywhere in between. I told you it's not sustainable, but this is surely a path to burnout. So, [00:25:00] so it's costing us plus not to mention, and I'm mentioning this one last.

But it's costing our clients too, right? It's costing our kids, quite frankly, right? I mean, I'm talking from personal experience. If I am so busy, you know, trying to appear one way in certain roles when I'm with my kids, right? I don't have the energy to. Be who I wanna be with them and be, be myself with them because I am so maxed out, like I'm just done.

And so it costs it, it costs them, it costs maybe your clients, your, your, for me, maybe coaching clients for you, maybe, you know, speech, speech clients. So I hope this is making sense. Okay. But. I just realized I went on and on about this for 25 minutes. Okay, so here I [00:26:00] want to give you some tips, some strategies that you can try instead.

Okay, so if you notice that this is happening. These are a few things that I have tried or that I have coached clients SLPs on that they have tried, or things that we've come up with together in coaching sessions that just help to loosen the grip. Of the mask because this episode is not about, Hey, you're not showing up authentically, so take off that mask and now be yourself a hundred percent of the time.

And off you go. That's not something I'm recommending. So I just wanna make that super clear. But these are things that you can use to sort of list, uh, loosen, rather loosen the grip on the mask. Okay. So we're not just [00:27:00] ripping it off and go balls to the wall. Okay. Sorry. Inappropriate. Okay, focus Theresa.

Here we go. So I'm gonna give you, I don't know, I think I've got like three or four tips here. First one is to, I'll call it the sort of like a mask measurement if you will. Like a mask check-in where you are, checking in with yourself. About how much effort that you're putting in to trying to seem a certain way.

Like how much have I been trying to appear one way today? How much have I, how much effort have I spent trying to look a certain way? You know, calm, prepared, organized, whatever, right? How much effort and energy am I spending trying to show up one way? When I'm actually a [00:28:00] different way, that's just a very simple self-awareness check-in, right?

You can rate it on a scale of, I don't know, zero to 10, one to five. Like you, you decide, you know how we, we therapists, we love a good Likert scale. Get something going, okay, figure out what works for you. But just that simple check-in. Now, I'll, I'll mention this the other day, uh, it was this weekend. I actually had some time on my own without the kids and I was working my ass off, getting stuff done and, you know, enjoying my time.

And I had, I, I kind of. Stopped and caught myself a few times throughout the day just to check in with my body. Like, how was I feeling physically, because I've been like, go, go, go, do, do, do. Right? And sometimes it's so easy for me to ignore those signals and just keep going [00:29:00] until I've, you know, crashed.

Like I've, I've passed. I'm past the point of. You know, recovery, if you will. Like I've, I've burnt myself down to I to that point where I just, now I have to recover. Like spend time actually recovering, which I've done, not because, not always because of something mentally, not always because of like a mental push of like, oh, you have to do this better.

I have to do this harder, or whatever. More so of like lack of interceptive awareness, interceptive skills of like checking of my body and noticing when I'm hungry or when I am, my feet are hurting. So. Just those simple little check-ins with yourself. Whether it's about, you know, your mask or how authentic you are showing up or how authentically you are showing up, or how you are physically feeling mentally, emotionally, what have you.

But those simple [00:30:00] check-ins can go such a long way. Okay. Second strategy that I have is to identify either people or scenarios where you can. Decrease that, that level of masking or where you can, can sort of lower the, I don't know, lower the, lower the mask just a little bit. Right? Like where are you masking that you don't have to be masking.

Or maybe a better way to say it is if you were to work on. If you were to, if you were to try to, to, how can I explain? I'm sorry. Bear with me. Okay. So if you, if this was something you were gonna work on, what would be the safest place to do it? Who are the safest people or the safest scenarios where you can be [00:31:00] yourself and then try showing up that way?

With those people in those scenarios. So if you are somebody who works in, maybe you work for a school or maybe you work for a, an agency, that's not the place where I would drop the mask. That's not where I would start necessarily. I would start and build this skill with maybe my spouse or my kids, or my mom or a friend.

Okay. Because we have to build up the, the skill build, like start creating that habit, strengthen the skill of this, and to do it in a way that is gonna foster safety so that you can actually learn from this. Okay. Third one that I have for you is to question your thoughts, and I'll be even more specific when you hear [00:32:00] a should.

Internally, I should do this. I should have done that. Ask yourself says who? Whose voice is it? Who is saying that? Are you saying that? Is your supervisor saying that? Is your client saying that? Is your grad school professor or clinic supervisor saying that? Whose voice is it? Right says who, and this isn't necessarily, you know, to, this is not to be defiant.

It is to question, to be curious to explore. Because so many of these rules that we, that we're living by are rules that that are not actually rules. So I'm just saying before you just assume that. The way that you've been doing things is the only way that you can do them or the only way that they can [00:33:00] be done.

Check that. Check that voice. Who's saying that says who? How do you know? How do you know that's true? Blah, blah, blah. Okay. All right, so those are three, I think, pretty tangible strategies. I want to just leave you with a another, I guess it's a strategy, but it's a, it's sort of a perspective that I really think has the power to change.

A lot for you if you're listening to this, okay? I want you to recognize that every time you show up one way and hide or mask how you are actually thinking and feeling every time you. Stay up until 3:00 AM to write a report and get it done on time. Every time you decide that you're going to invest six hours into writing an [00:34:00] evaluation report, because every report that we write has to be detailed and perfect every time.

Get your session notes done, no matter how long it takes you or how late you stay up, or how late you stay after work and you get them done on time. Without anybody knowing every time you do that, it impacts the value of our field. We are showing up as if so many of these standards, these expectations are feasible, reasonable.

Acceptable. And if you don't think that they are, but you're showing up as if you do think they are, then that is bringing down our field. That is us [00:35:00] contributing to our reality. That is us preventing ourselves as SLPs to create a different reality. Is this making sense? And I am not judging you for this.

I am not trying to shame you or to yell at you, even though I'm getting a little bit, you know, amped, if you will. Right. I just think that sometimes maybe that thought is enough for some of you to recognize the cost of this and that the more we keep doing this. Then without speaking up and without, you know, without showing our true selves, without asking for help, without, you know, not meeting a deadline or asking for an extension or adjusting, asking for help with a caseload, adjusting our caseloads.

[00:36:00] The, every time we show up one way, it just sends the message of, oh, okay. Well, this is acceptable. I guess this is reasonable. This is what our field expects of us, because we're not telling them otherwise. And if that's what you wanna do, that's okay, but you have to recognize that that is a decision, right?

Deciding not to ask for help, deciding not to set a boundary, deciding not to say no. Those are decisions, so we have to own them. We can't choose one way and then internally or behind the scenes talk crap about it, on how unreasonable it is. Because we chose it. We said it was okay, we accepted it. If it's not acceptable, we have to say [00:37:00] something.

We have to do something. We have to begin a conversation. Okay, so. I don't know who needed to hear that. I don't know if I overstepped. I am sorry if I did. You can submit a complaint, ask for your money back from this free podcast. I hope you get my sense of humor, but I just think that there's a lot to be said here when it comes to masking and to, you know, showing up one way.

And not being our au, our authentic selves. And again, this can apply to both your personal and your professional life. I know that we focus primarily on the professional aspect of it today, but shows up all the time in my personal life as well. I was telling one of my coaching clients recently, I could, I said, I forget what the context was, but I said, well, I can either have a tidy house.

Or I can have a tidy car, but I can't have both at [00:38:00] the same time without, you know, pushing myself past my breaking point of trying to, to keep it all, keep it all together. So I choose my house. That's just like, that's just the way that it is for me. That's what works for me. But it's not, you know, I'm not sitting here pretending that I am crushing it.

If I'm not crushing it, you'll know. You know, I'm not, you know, it, it is. It is what it is. And that is so freeing. That's so liberating. You know, my son might be eating sour cream for lunch, but everybody's happy, everybody's healthy, safe. I'm getting my work done, and that's okay. Right, and that is a true story.

He legit ate a bowl of sour cream when he was younger, but. I digress. Anyway, that I hope was a very helpful, dare I [00:39:00] say, overview of the ways that we show up inauthentically as SLPs PTs, OTs, humans, right? The way that that costs us, and a few alternatives. Of how you can approach it, right? A few strategies that you can try and if this is the type of information or the type of support that you want more of.

I've got lots of other episodes on this podcast, and as always, you can book a free consult if you're interested in learning more about what one-on-one coaching might look like for you, how you can help yourself to show up authentically. In any role that you have and you want some support with that, book a call.

Happy to walk you through it. The link is always in the show notes. Alright, that is it for today's episode. Hope this was helpful and I will talk with you [00:40:00] on next week. Bye.